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Hyper Vision Built a Band Without Being in the Same Room · LOYAL TO THE CRAFT

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_01: What's up, Adobe Radio?
• 0:01
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Loyal to the Craft.
• 0:02
  SPEAKER_01: I'm here with Hypervision talking about chasing your craft, chasing your dream in the music industry, making it happen.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of amazing things happening from this band right now.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_01: We've got the band in our show, and we're going to go deep and talk about forming the band, writing the music, all of the marketing and media that's been coming out.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_01: Let's dive into it.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks so much, guys, for being part of this.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, dude.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for having us.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_01: Awesome.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_01: So, man, let's just start.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_01: It must be difficult to be all around the country, right?
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like, how did the band, like, what was the idea for the band to come together?
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_01: And how did you guys logistically make it work with everybody being in a different city and a different time zone?
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_03: Oh boy.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_03: Logan, do you want to you want to take that or should I?
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_03: No, you go for it, dude.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_03: All right, all right.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_03: I'll give it a shot.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so it started off as just me and Logan uh doing like Dat Lav and Jackson Rose stuff.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_03: I was doing like scream rap, like emo rap stuff for like years, but I always wanted to do metal and I just didn't really have like the resources.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't know anybody to do it.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_03: And then finally, like Logan just stumbled upon my stuff and he was like, dude, you sound sick.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_03: Let's do something.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, awesome.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_03: I was already a fan of his, I was already following him, so that worked out.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_03: Um and then yeah, we just started like collabing as like his uh his name, Dal Ab and Jackson Rose, and that did super well, and just everyone was just pastoring us to make a band.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_03: So thought we should finally uh pull the trigger.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_03: And then Patrick is just a fucking amazing drummer, and I've been a fan of his for a long time.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_03: So it just you know, he he was a fan of our stuff, and I just wanted to bring him in.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_03: Awesome.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Patrick, how did that happen, dude?
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_00: So I did you reach out to me or did yeah, how did that happen, dude?
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, in in the world of of all of us like separately collaborating with each other, uh like I I was a fan of of both of uh uh Logan and Jackson's like content separately, and I remember finding out that Jackson was my drum tech at the time's brother, just like randomly.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_02: I like I showed Lane a video and I was like, isn't this dude awesome?
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_02: And Lane pulled out FaceTime of Jackson and was like, that's my brother.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, whoa, small world.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_02: And then I was seeing Logan's stuff, and I hit Logan up um to do a collaboration with me personally for a Lois song.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_02: Um, like sent him a track that I had written all in MIDI, and he turned it into this like incredible arrangement.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_02: And uh this like trio kind of started in uh just like uh uh like little ways where on their on their duo record, they had me uh um produce drums for a song and do some guest vocals on a song.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_02: And uh after we kind of uh realized that with a um with a songwriter like Logan, who is uh just uh a machine, just constantly, constantly writing, constantly.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_02: It's crazy.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, just constantly giving us um stuff to work on, like that that alone bridges the gap of not being able to sit in a room with each other.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_02: Like there, there there is no like I don't know.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_02: I I feel like we don't run into any writer's block or anything.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_02: It's just like Logan is this creative machine, and also Logan is able to take uh ideas and just turn them into something like way cooler than what Jackson and I can come up with.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_02: Because Jackson and I are in the same boat where neither of us really play guitar or anything.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's hard to write a song without being able to like you know, know you know, theory or chords.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but you know, voice memos.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_02: Or I can send Logan like a really a really embarrassing like 30 seconds of MIDI guitar, and he's like, and he's like, Yeah, this is uh this is pretty bad.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_02: And then a half hour later into our like Discord writing session, it's a full-blown song that you know all it takes is a little bit of inspiration, you know, and and Logan's one of those people that takes uh any and all ideas and can either turn it into something awesome or say, like, we're not gonna do that.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_02: Let's go with something.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_03: He's a mastermind though.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_03: He's one of the best, one of the best ever.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_01: That's cool and inspiring for you know the the young musicians that we talk to that are like, well, hey, I'm from a small town that there's no music scene or whatever.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_01: Like, that's not an excuse anymore.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_01: I don't I don't think that was an excuse really ever.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, even pre-social media or being able to write and share files like you guys are talking about, voice memo style, but it seems like finding the right people and building the right kind of uh members for for each thing.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_01: You all have been in bands before, you've all done certain things and learn and have the knowledge now going into this new project, what you don't want as much as what you do want, and finding the right community to be able to build that together seems like it's the right fit with you guys.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_01: And it seems like it's just fun being able to do that, where the strings that are usually attached to some stuff like that becomes a little bit more daunting, and then that inevitably lowers the creative output.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_01: Is that kind of how you guys have seen it in your career so far?
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_01: Or what's the what's the general consensus of of where you guys are at based on that proximity situation?
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_02: Hmm.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_02: Logan?
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Logan, jump in, jump in.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, dude.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yo, dude, you're the main writer, man.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_00: Well, uh, I don't really know what to say, I'm sorry.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_02: I I think that it does it does bring in this like level of um like this level of excitement and this level of being able to uh you know uh accomplish something at the level that we're accomplishing it in the scenario that we're accomplishing it in.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_02: Like you said, Mike, like people have been doing this kind of stuff forever, since before social media.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_02: There have still been like the ability to do like video conferencing and like bands have been doing this stuff since the 90s when they when when they've been able like when video conferencing first kind of came into into the world.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_02: Um you know the it's been a thing since then, and and I think that uh it just it's just a fun and exciting thing that we're able to um really like double down on it all and and and say that we've the three of us have gotten together twice.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_02: And what and the first time was to film music videos for your guys' project that I was just in the music video for, and the second time we got together was for the hypervision music video and all the content that we did, which we filmed in one day.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_02: Every song on the record has content that we did in one day.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yep, and you know, other than us physically being together those two times, everything has been a Discord chat or text messages or you know, phone call, video chat.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't know, it's it's like it's really like I miss being in a room with bandmates and and like you know, like having having that some sort of like that live like camaraderie, but at the same time, it's also like this stuff is so like it there's a reason this stuff is coming out, I think, so much cleaner and and so much like uh uh I don't know, less like less like a garage band, you know, like let less less like there's so much ability to to to to look at details and and and to collaborate on that stuff when you're when you're working with this situation.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_03: And there's no like ego in our crew or anything, it's a very like easy, just sort of fun experience the whole time.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, Logan comes to us with like just like a lot of times just a full song, and I'm always I don't I don't usually have like things I want to change.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, I just want to be on this song already.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_03: This is great, you know.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_03: And then I write whatever the fuck and I send that to Patrick.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, what do you think?
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_03: And then he's like, it's great.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_03: I want to add this.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, that sounds great too.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just I'm very, I'm very trusting in their creative process, and I'm and I'm very grateful they've been uh very trusting in mine as well, you know.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like we kind of all have been.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_00: That's like one of my favorite things about uh us working together and making this project is I feel like we all come from from a background of not really um being listened to by the people who were around us, you know.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_00: So we'd always have like all of us have like really weird off-the-wall ideas sometimes that you know most people you'd pitch that to, and they're like, no, I don't want to do that.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_00: That's too weird, or that's that doesn't fit our brand or whatever, yeah, um, or our sound, you know?
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's like uh all three of us are like we all like all different types of music, and so it's really fun to be able to just uh just pitch ideas, and then no one's like, No, that sucks.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_00: We're all like maybe not in that way, but like this could be used like in this way, you know, like there's a way to like take somebody's idea, even if it's not like the full-fledged idea, and like turn it into something that can be used.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I just I just love that it's so open and like all the crazy ideas that I've been sitting on for years, I can just be like, what about this?
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_02: It's that seed, man.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_02: I all all it takes is is to plant a uh like a creative seed with something, and you know, I could I I could I could send something that is like I said, literally 15, 30 seconds of an idea.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_02: And whether it whether that idea itself makes it into the arrangement, it does at that point it doesn't matter.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_02: At that point, it became it became inspiration enough to create something that's going to be you know even cooler.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_02: And Logan is like the like this king of collaboration right now, like even outside of hypervision and and like in the scene, like Logan is pumping out a track every four weeks with with his own project, with other musicians, and like his his like his want to collaborate with cool people, like brought me, I feel like literally like brought me and Jackson into his orbit where it was like, man, we we also want to collaborate with cool people.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_03: This is awesome.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_02: I want it on this, yeah.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I want to be part of this like for more than just one song.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, take me under your wing for more than one, you know.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_03: Let's make a band, baby.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_02: And it'd be too hard, it'd be too hard to put Jackson Rose, Dal Ev, and Lois on a t-shirt.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_02: So that's why we had to we had to just be like, if we want to write more songs, we need to put a name on it that isn't the three of our names.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_03: Fine.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_01: Logan, how did you get in that world?
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_01: Was it was it by design or was it just people coming at you, or you just formulating relationships, you know, sending DMs and collaborating?
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_01: Like, how did your collaborative outlook and possibilities start to open up?
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was kind of an accident.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um so back in like 2019, uh, that's when I launched the like Dalav project.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um and originally I was like, you know, I was in other bands at the time, and originally I just made it uh because I wanted to I wanted a place to house my like weird throwaway ideas, you know.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like I was in this kind of like melodic metal core band, and previously I'd done like a lot of death core stuff, so I was kind of like missing doing the super heavy stuff, and then at the time I was also like super into thall, so I made this Dalav project as just kind of like a throwaway.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like, here's just like when I'm not doing my band stuff, here's just my random ideas, and it was like an instrumental project.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_00: And uh I turned that into sorry, I turned that into um like I I actually I got feedback from a friend of mine, um, Chris Wiseman.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure that you've maybe met him along the way with all your interviewing.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um but Chris had hit me up after I had put out some songs through Dal Ave as an instrumental project, and he was like, dude, this is cool, but it's never really gonna get any traction if you don't have vocals on it.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, yeah, you're right.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_00: So I kind of turned it into instead of going for like turning it into a band where you know I get a vocalist and we just make albums, I was like, what if I just made it more of like a like I'm a producer or like more of like the rap world or like EDM world where it's like a producer, DJ artist, whatever you want to, whatever box that that that fits in.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um and they just kind of like collaborate with a bunch of people.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, I'll just take you make a beat.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, I'll take that idea and just do it over here in metal.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then yeah, I just like I started off really small because the project was really small.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: So it was like, you know, I was posting just like on my Instagram, like, hey, who wants to do a song?
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_00: And it was really just like up for anybody.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I started with like some smaller artists and maybe some like little bit bigger artists that were like, you know, still in the underground but bigger underground, you know what I mean?
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then it just kind of kept going and going.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_00: And the more I did it, the more people saw it, and they were like, Oh, it'd be fun to, you know, just do a one-off song with this guy, and you know, so I just kept it going.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sure all of the comments on your guitar videos are just like, I mean, uh like, oh, let me do vocals on this, or let me in on this, or can I have this song?
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_02: Because all the stuff that you post is just like you said, like it's your it's these random ideas, and you say throw away, it's not like they're bad.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_02: They're not throw away.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_03: Like, please do not I'm in your band and I still comment, can I have this one?
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, seriously.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I want that one, that's like that.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I want this one, like you know, and I can't I can't imagine just being uh uh just being wanted so bad by everybody.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_02: Lucky you, man.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, I wish it was like that.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_00: No, I I still I still struggle to find um like people that I like really, really like I'm not trying to go for like big people all the time, you know what I mean?
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like I still love keeping it in the underground.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's that's why I still like the attitude of keeping it open, where like if somebody bigger wants to work with me, cool.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: But like what I'm actually looking for and how I use my social media now is like I'm scouring, looking for like these small artists that I think I see potential in, but just aren't like that don't have the numbers yet or haven't been around long enough yet.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_00: And I like finding small artists like that where we can make something really cool together.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then because of the visibility I have now, I can I can kind of give them a leg up, and like that's something that I want to do more with that project.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_02: I saw it firsthand with the Lois song that we did.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_02: Like you and Jackson had already had some incredible moments in the past year before that.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um, like each of you having a million listeners on Spotify separately, um, and then doing a song with me, like you know, my my stuff wasn't the Lois stuff wasn't very, you know, well heard at all.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_02: And the second we did a song together, it was like all of my numbers jumped, and I saw I saw like what this like almost like this tangible growth because of what you've been doing.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_02: And we're we're seeing that from hypervision too.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, like um the this you know this DIY stuff, it wouldn't be you you it wouldn't be as successful uh if you guys hadn't already DIY's the shit out of yourselves, you know what I mean?
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: Walk me through some of the expectations or goals and dreams.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we all remember being young and and wanting to be in a band to go on tour to get a record deal and things like that.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_01: It seems like things are a little bit different with this project where it's a little bit more loose and just fun and fluid.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_01: That's not to say that there aren't goals and aspirations that you guys have as individuals and as a group.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_01: What is what does that look like?
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_01: What does the next year, five, 10-year plan look like for you guys that you that gets you super excited?
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_03: First up, releasing the album.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_03: That's number one.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_03: We've been sitting on this album for over a year.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_03: Number one goal.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_03: People hear it.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't even care if they like it.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, I don't care.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_03: Just get it out of my drive.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_03: No, um it's just such a fun project.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_03: And uh I want to just see where it naturally kind of goes because it is like it is tough.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_03: Like we have US at the end of our of our tag on Instagram because we are spread across the US.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_03: So it is hard to be like, oh, we're gonna do a tour this summer, whatever.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_03: Um so I think it is a lot of like putting out the album and just trying to put our best foot forward creatively and then seeing kind of where that takes us.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_03: And we would love to, I mean, these songs are so much fun, and I would absolutely adore to play them live, um, especially in like festival sense and all that would be amazing.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_03: But for now, yeah, I want to get the album out there and then start pumping out even more stuff after that, you know.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think we're all we're all so active separately um on social media and with our other projects on social media um that you know, putting out songs, making cool content, like kind of you know, not forcing people to hear our music, but like doing our best to where the band the band is posting on all cylinders, all three of us are posting on all cylinders.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_02: And I I mean I agree, dude.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_02: Like we've been sitting on this album for a year, and every time I listen to it, I'm just like, man, the the potential that all of these songs have.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_02: I just want people to hear it.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_03: And if the right person hears it, you know, obviously that could take you know, take everything to a to another level, but I don't think I don't think this project is anything that's like we want to get in a van and tour eight months out of the year, like you know, like that's I don't I don't think very much yeah, it's very much a uh creative outlet for us to do like you know metal core at the most hyper it can be, you know.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_03: And it by the time that like we're we come out with this album, we're probably gonna have like another album's worth of music ready to go.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_03: So really, like from here on, there should be just a new song always on the way, you know, always coming.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_03: And uh, you know, we worked hard with uh uh our dude Clayton King on making like insane content for every song on this album.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_03: So for the next year, it's just like cinematic looking stuff.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah, I don't know.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just I'm really excited.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_03: It should be should be awesome.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_02: Is that what go ahead?
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I was gonna say if the opportunity like came out to you know, like a come come play insert festival here or you know, fucking sleep token is like, hey, you guys blew up overnight just like we did.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_02: Like come on, direct support, it's like hard to say no to something like that.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, we we would love to play these songs live.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_02: I'm putting a lot of work into learning these songs like note for note live.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and whether that ends up just being like for videos or for just proving that we can all do it, um, that it isn't all, you know, it's that kind of studio magic stuff.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_02: Like that's that's enough.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_02: That's enough for me.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_02: I'm enjoying I'm enjoying the people's response to the song that we've put out.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_02: I am enjoining, I am enjoying learning all of these songs um to the best of my ability and challenging myself to do that.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_02: And uh like that's that's really what's given me, you know, a lot of the a lot of the joy from this project is is writing challenging stuff and being like, okay, learn it.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, why let's go down that rabbit hole real quick, Patrick.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_01: Because I mean you're you're actually you gotta you gotta monitor in front of your kit, like to like to line up the beats and really like how long does it take you to really nail different parts because they're not easy.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_01: And for for those young musicians that that are listening, talk about the the dedication and passion and hours and literal blood, sweat, and tears that go into creating something that you are so enthusiastically passionate about, you know, when when you talk and think about it.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I have been uh I have been trying to like perfect this learning process for a couple years now, um, involving the monitor in front of my drum.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: Set and because I've because I've moved into this world where pretty much a hundred percent of the stuff that I do is all MIDI programmed, um, because bands either don't have the budget to rent a drum room for however long it would take to do an album, um, or you know, it just makes more sense to you know move with how technology is going.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so everything that I do is MIDI, whether it's hypervision, night rider, anything else that I'm asked to produce.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um so I I've really leaned into uh working with logic in being able to label my MIDI for each and every symbol that I have, each and every drum that I have.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_02: Um and I've labeled it, it goes from top down, kind of in order of how it is around the kit.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so that the more and more I memorize or play along to MIDI, the more and more the the brain, the mind to muscle memory here, like I know exactly where the notes are on the grid without even looking at what the name of the, you know, of the instrument is.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_02: Um I use logic.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I have my main screen on my left, and then I mirror the the piano scroll to the big screen in front of me, and I use the scroll and play.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_02: So the MIDI moves um as as I play along to it, um, but the center of the screen always stays the same.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_02: So the the MIDI kind of moves through like a train.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_02: So you can kind of see what's coming up if you need to.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_02: Um and that helps get you ready for it for the next part.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, with uh with stuff like I'm doing, hypervision, night rider, this kind of stuff, all of these drum ideas usually start from the main songwriter.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_02: So in this case, Logan is demoing out um drums that he thinks like complement the guitar, his guitar work, you know, the the best way possible.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_02: And that's some stuff that I've been really, really like I it is so exciting to see what he writes and then to see what I can do.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_02: Cause usually it's taking it's taking a part that's pretty hard and then uh me producing it to be how I would play it, which normally gets harder.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_02: So like you to you take this balls to the wall idea, and then you're like, okay, how can I achieve that actually, like for me, my style.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_02: And then when I produce it, it makes it uh even even more kind of like brain twisting.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_02: And then uh and then and then it comes down to just taking parts.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I color code parts on my on logic as to you know what I'm working on at the time or what's hardest or what's easiest or what I need to work on.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_02: Um, oftentimes I'll learn songs backwards so that so that every time I start a part, um, I can play it through to the end of the song and then move back one part and then play it through to the end of the song.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm always playing the parts that I had just learned after.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_02: Um and uh hours and hours and hours of me staring at a computer screen, uh just you know, trying trying to lock in that like mind-muscle connection.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I I teach this a lot in in lessons with people now is like, you know, the most important part about playing drums is the muscle memory and the way that your brain tells your limbs to move and uh memorizing the MIDI first and like kind of playing it through in my head at night.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_02: I'll just like lay down in my bed and and literally play drums in my sleep.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_02: And like I see like MIDI in my sleep.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_02: It's nuts, man.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_02: And then I sit down the next day and I'm like even better than I was the day before.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_02: Like, if I'm struggling with a part, I'll literally go home and play it in my head and come back and be like, oh, I got this because I because your brain is just crazy like that.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's wild, bro.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_01: Let's uh let's shift gears and talk.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I want to I want to talk about the music industry as a whole with you guys and hear your perspective on it.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_01: You know, and I don't know if there's a reason other than the content rollout and all of that to get your full album out there.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_01: It sounds like it's been in the can or in the hard drive now for a year.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_01: How are you guys gonna release it and what's your view on, especially from all of us back in the day, looking at record labels and kind of dreaming of being on a certain label, getting management and doing all the things I think we all thought we had to do to get music out there, create a fan base, and to be able to go on the road and have fans show up and play the festivals like you guys have talked about?
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_01: Talk to me about your your mindset collectively, individually, about that.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_01: What's the best way to put out music?
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_01: How do you build a fan base?
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_01: What are you guys doing differently?
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_01: What are some of your aspirations that you you know, would you be open to labels?
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: Is it are you waiting for labels?
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_01: What's your mindset on all that?
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_00: I think labels can be super valuable.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it depends on who you are, you know what I mean?
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_00: That's it's it's like a per case basis.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um today, in today's world, I feel like I'm a huge advocate for artists having the keys to their own destiny.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_00: And in today's world, you really can.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, with so the way social media is and the way you can market yourself, you know, you can literally teach yourself how to do ads.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_00: You know, that's how I started, you know.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um, before I went and got a degree and started working in advertising, uh you know, I just taught myself because I wanted to do exactly that like 10 years ago.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, well, I'm writing all this music.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_00: How do I get anybody to listen to it?
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_00: Let's figure out how to like make some videos and sh get it in front of people's faces.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I think uh like today it's like easier than it's ever been.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_00: But on the flip side, everybody can do it, so it is extremely oversaturated.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_00: But I think if you're making quality content, quality music, you're doing your you you you have your own voice, which is very specific to you, will cut through the noise that's happening.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I think you can really stand out still.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_00: It is hard, but yeah, I'm I I think being uh maybe a young band, you know, there's pros and cons to being on a label, right?
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like in some cases it's an easy pass if they care about you, or in some cases you get thrown on the shelf and it kind of ruins your career a little bit.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_00: But I think as a young band, it's a little bit more valuable to kind of go through the grind a little bit on your own, because then it makes you appreciate and look out for the red flags that the industry is going to throw your way later on down the road.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_00: So I think try to do as much as you can on your own first.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_02: And learn, learn as much, like you said, learn learn as much as you can because you're high like you're hiring a label, or you're hiring a publicist, or you're hiring marketing, or you're hiring a graphic artist, like all of that stuff.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, if if those people that you're hiring are top of the line, like the most professional that you can be, obviously it would take a lot for you to learn that skill.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_02: But in in you know, in our world, in smaller, you know, like underground, smaller independent artists, you're better off, I think, learning that trade and learning that skill to the point where the product that you put out or you know the the job that you do for yourself, because there's nobody that's gonna care about your project as much as you do.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's it's this trade-off of hiring somebody who may be a little bit better at it than you to do something for something to for do something to do something for you that they don't care as much about, or you could learn just enough to do something for the project that you are the most passionate about.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that product is probably going to come out either better or at least it will come out with that passion in it.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_03: The creativity really comes from restrictions.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I believe the most.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I don't you know, you don't have to have like the greatest of everything and the greatest team of everything.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_03: I recorded this, the hypervision album in my car.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_03: The entire the setup that I'm using right now to do this podcast is the setup that I use to record.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_03: I've recorded two albums now, technically, for a different project.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_03: And like for all my content, I actually have it right here.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_03: I use this$30 Amazon camcorder because like I'm obsessed with like you know, found footage horror look and stuff.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_03: But I'm like, I I just I just you have to figure out how to recreate what you want to do.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, I've been using like the same really bad video editor for like 10 years that I could easily just use like premiere, like the standard stuff, but I learned how to recreate that professional look in the things that I knew how to use and the things that were way cheaper and all that.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um, it really like you can do amazing things with so little if you just put your mind to it.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_03: Like that's the whole thing, you know.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_02: What did you say at the beginning of that statement?
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_02: Create create create uh create.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_03: Creativity comes from restrictions.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, did you make that up?
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_03: I just dude, it just came off the dome.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_03: Anyway, you two guys leave, Patrick.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_03: Do you want to write lyrics tonight?
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_02: That was uh that's that was pretty deep.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_03: I like it, but I'm gonna get the T Tune right here.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_01: I actually wrote it down, bro.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_01: That's gonna be the thumbnail for sure.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think people get too hung up on uh comparing themselves to other stuff that's out there, you know, because there's a lot of people doing a lot of really cool stuff, and they've got the really nice camera and they've got the skills with the editing, and they've been playing 10 years longer than you have, and it's like really hard to be like younger right now, seeing that being like, Oh yeah, I'm gonna do that when it's like you know, the how could I ever compare?
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_00: How am I ever gonna stand out?
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I think uh I think I mean the journey is kind of a lot of how fun it really is.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you start and you suck, like you know what I mean?
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, but it like was about Taco Bell.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_00: That was the first future ever released into the world, and then you look back like three years later, and you're like, Whoa, I really like put in a lot of work and it shows, and that's like what really matters, you know what I mean?
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like, that's the cool part.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_00: It should be fun, it should be fun first and foremost.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I love seeing the progression of quality, uh of even just like content, whether it's quality of content, quality of songwriting, quality of this.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I I do believe that, like, especially in this world, like film everything, post everything, because if you keep holding on, like every time I do a drum video or a vocal video, I I I could sit here and nitpick my self-mix or the video editing all day long.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_02: And every time I open up the file, I'm like, oh, I could change that, I could change that.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_02: I I keep learning, oh, I I can I can apply what I just learned to this.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_02: But then you'll never put anything out if you keep revisiting the same thing and just keep on trying to change it, or you could be happy with where you're at, post it.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_02: The next video, take what you learned and apply it to that, post it.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_02: Next video, and like rinse and repeat that because then you'll actually see the the progress from here's where I was a year ago, here's where I am now.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_02: Like I've clearly gotten better at at you know, at editing or at mixing or or whatever it is.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_02: Like, there's no way to really gauge that unless it's consumable, or unless you're being able you're able to view it yourself or get feedback from other people, you know.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I think that to what you just said, that last part, Patrick, is like that's what you guys are doing now.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that that's so special for other kids, whether they're in a community that has other like-minded musicians and creatives, or they have the access to the internet and they can go find people that they they think share, you know, similar visions and music styles, to then collectively go, hey, that sounds cool, but what if you did this?
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure you guys do that often, where it's like pushing each other subconsciously and consciously to just go a little bit further outside the box or just go a little bit deeper than you normally would have, giving you that confidence and kind of that outlet.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and constructive criticism obviously goes a long way, whether it's in a group itself or if you're receiving it from an outside force, you know, even just a average listener, like, you know, you gotta learn to take all of that feedback um and kind of you know comb through it.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, some stuff, you know, some stuff, especially on the internet, you know, you can throw right out the trash, but uh, you know, especially within your your circle or your project, like that constructive criticism about stuff, I think again, it's just always always pushing yourself and and your your group to create better stuff.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_00: True.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_00: Also, like think about think about your favorite like artist, creator, whatever they do, whatever medium they're in.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_00: Think about your favorite person.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_00: Do you like them because they have like the crispiest, nicest content in the world?
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_00: No, you like them because they have like a very unique voice in that medium, and I think that that is the most important thing out of all of it to focus on.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_00: And that's not something you can really teach, you know, that's something you develop over time with experience and trying a lot of stuff.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_00: That's why you always like branch out, try a million things, because all of those experiences are going to hone in your unique creative voice, which is going to be the thing that people really appreciate from you.
• 36:36
  unknown: Yeah.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_01: Is constructive criticism a learned trait?
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_01: Do you guys think?
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I remember being young, and obviously you think you know everything.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_01: It talked to me about how you've kind of had to evolve as creatives to be able to take criticism and give it in a positive manner.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_01: Like that is an important aspect to get to a point where it seems like you guys are just so much on the same page that is rare and it is hard to find people that can both deliver and receive feedback like that.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_03: I told them if they ever say no to something, I'd leave the band.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_02: So it's a part of like a contractual thing, but I uh I would say I would say it's absolutely a learned uh a learned trait, a learned ability.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um it's hard not to take it personally at first because you're like, this is my thing.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_03: I wrote this, especially in music, yeah.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_03: It's like, what do you mean?
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_03: You know, but it it's a it's it takes a while.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_03: I'm still learning.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_03: I'm still learning how to take it on the chin and just be like, yeah, okay, it's fine, it doesn't matter, you know.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_02: And and dude, that's okay because of you know, you are the you the youngest of the three of us.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and when I, you know, when I packed up all my stuff the day I turned 18 and I moved to Cleveland to be the drummer for Alfiance, like I was just this this like prick from Buffalo who thought that I was like that I deserved this and that I'm going to make it on my own and like hear me roar.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_02: And I get into a room with a with you know some dudes that are a little bit older than me and a little bit more experienced than me.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_02: And when I started kind of like given this kind of shitty attitude, I learned real quick from these guys like that that is not the way to be, especially in a band that's like living together, a band that tours in a van, like that whole experience really taught me to stop being the way I was when I was like when I was a young when I was a younger, you know, kind of abrasive.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_02: I was I was I was I was kind of a prick when I was younger.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_02: Um and I think that that's like the Western New York uh, you know, coming out of me.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and you just kind of had to learn constructive criticism is huge, is a huge part of that.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_02: Taking taking criticism and taking other people's opinions and not being afraid to communicate like more freely, not taking everything personally.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_02: Like that's that is 100% a learned, like grown into trait.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_02: And if you don't have those people around you that are, you know, kind of helping you get through that, you have to have some pretty understanding, you know, uh uh people around you that will will allow you to kind of like grow into it, you know, patience.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_01: There's I'm sure obviously plenty of bands that have ended poorly because of lack of communication or just poor communication.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_01: And again, you guys, proximity-wise, but also at this point and what you're doing with this project, it seems like it's gotta be fun, it's gotta be an outlet and something that's just creatively uh fun and nurturing for you guys in order to do it because we've all you know put up with with stuff that we didn't want to do because we believed in the bigger picture and the bigger collective.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_01: But from the sounds of it and the looks of it, you guys are just doing it because you're super passionate about it and you want to just put music out collectively.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_03: Pretty much.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_03: I I I trust in their creative process fully.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_03: So if they have something they want to say or they have something that's like, that's not gonna work, I trust it.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_03: And I go, okay, that's then let's change it, you know?
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, and it's it's exciting to have stuff to look forward to.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_02: Like we have this whole album ahead of us, and whether that's whether we release it literally one song at a time for the next year, like I just we've got this like this spreadsheet with all the with all the songs and all the content that we have for each song, and it just keeps we just keep adding stuff to it because we have all of this this like pooled content that we got um like professionally done, and then we're each all three of us are just making other things that it that it's just filling up.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm just like every day I'm I'm looking forward to okay, what's the next thing that Hypervision is gonna post?
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_02: What uh okay, the next song comes out in in three weeks.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_02: Like, uh oh, like I I hope, like I wonder what people are gonna think about the next thing and then the next thing and then the next one rips, you know, like and uh I'm just like I'm so I'm so excited that we just we have the opportunity to see how this like strategy works.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_02: You know, like we we could just drop the whole album and self-release it and and you know because it's it's self-releasing the first song did really well.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_02: If we self-release five more songs and then you know, and then people coming out of the woodwork being like, oh, can we be a part of this?
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I would love to just be like, no.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_02: I just I love I like I love what we're doing, you know.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's it's just too exciting for for me now to like want to put it in somebody else's hands, you know.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_00: There's no there's no rains right now, you know?
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_00: No, unless you start bringing in like the suits, you know, then then the rains start getting it.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_03: The vision's not gonna be so hyper anymore, guys.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, dude.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be like gold vision, gold vision, and that is I the one thing that I don't think that we that we did touch on was the amount of um kind of thought that went into the the branding of this project through like Jackson creating fucking mood boards and like Pinterest boards being like this is how this music makes me feel.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_02: This is what I imagine our color scheme to be and what I want the artwork to look like, and kind of thinking about it in this medical, like this medical procedure way, and how do we make that kind of like a cryptic, like a cryptic introduction to the band and creating the patient portal website, like all of it kind of it came together just like so smoothly, and I'm beautiful, I'm really I'm really proud of it all, man.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm just I'm just excited to keep like at one after the other, just putting these songs out and seeing what people think.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_03: Some of these songs are I uh I just I hate having to sit on them for even now that we have the band.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_03: I know I'm still gonna be sitting on some of these for so long.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my god.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_02: But you're looking forward to it, right?
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_01: Well, by the time this comes out, it sounds like you have another song dropping in just a few weeks.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_01: By the time this comes out, you'll probably have a handful of songs out.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_01: What else can you, you know, uh tease, you know, mid to late summer by the time this is out?
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_01: What do you what do you guys think you'll be worried up to by then?
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_02: Mid to late summer.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_02: Mid to late summer means that there will be another one.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_03: That's gonna be the third song.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_03: There's gonna be three songs out.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, uh, a whole bunch of new content, a whole bunch of like basically mini music videos.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_03: Instead of filming like Full music videos for every song.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_03: We just put the camera vertical and just film like our favorite parts of each song as if it was its own little music video.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_03: So we'll have plenty of those coming out.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, um I we have an artist that we work with, uh Hollowed Graphics, who's just so fantastic at like 3D artwork, and I love being able to kind of showcase his work too, having him do like cool visualizers, just bring people into this uh world that we're creating.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_03: I'm I'm so like hell bent on more collaborators, yeah.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's more than just music collaboration at this point, you know.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_03: It's a it's a showcase of art, it's just a showcase of artists doing their thing at the top level that they can, you know.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, even even the the website is like that's that's one of my drum students, Eddie, who is a genius in in like coding.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_02: And I was just like, I have an idea, and we got the hypervision website URL for like a dollar, and he put together my like literally the vision that I had for this this landing page, and he put it together, and now I receive like a I receive an email every night about our registrations, and it's like it's all perfectly on brand, and like even that behind behind the scenes behind the scenes stuff is yeah, dude.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_02: Our behind the scenes stuff that literally only I see is still branded completely like us, like like I'm being entertained every morning when I'm waking up and checking my email.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's even even down to like that that like collaboration.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_03: We are fans of our own band at this point.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_03: We're like, what else is gonna happen?
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, exactly.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_00: I'm a huge fan.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's great.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_00: No, like because all this stuff, like kind of some of it was planned, but a lot of it's like along the way, this plan leads to this idea, and then all of us are always just like, fuck it, yeah, let's try it, dude.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_00: And then you know, and then that leads to another idea, and we're always just like, Yeah, let's go, let's do it.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_01: Well, dude, that I I love it, and it is, it's it's motivating.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_01: I I hope that the young musician listeners that are hearing this can be inspired to just start because, like you just said, one thing leads to another, and everything you guys have put in so far that you're sitting on yet to be out in the world is so exciting for obviously you guys, which is super cool.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it is it is rare to have every band member just so genuinely like infectious and excited about something coming out without something you know negative harboring over it.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um, get out there and just start.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_01: Put your music out there, meet your people, create community, go out there and just like DIY it until you can make it happen and then continue DIYing it because that, like you guys have talked about, that's the that's the whole way of keeping pushing through.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_01: We appreciate you guys' time and sharing your journey so far.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_01: So excited for everything to come out.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_01: Where can people hear you?
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, where would you like to direct everybody to go check out your music and all the content?
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_03: It's gonna be at Hypervision US across everything Instagram, YouTube, all the stuff, Spotify, hypervision, everything's just hypervision.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_03: So find us wherever you get music, wherever you get videos, we're on everything.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, apparently if you search for hypervision on any of the platforms, we're we're probably gonna be the first thing or the you know the main thing to to come up.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_02: So um hypervision across the board here.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_01: Hell yeah.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you guys.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_01: Best of luck on the rollout.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_01: Appreciate you guys stopping in and loyal to the craft Adobe.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_01: We'll see you guys next time.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.