Latest / The Bootleg Kev Podcast / #263 - Jade Cargill
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Who let keV Show special guests, one of my favorite
- 0:04Speaker 1: new up and coming wrestlers. She's forty eight and oh
- 0:07Speaker 1: forty eight No, okay, so Jade, break this down to
- 0:11Speaker 1: brace the fifty. It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. Hell,
- 0:14Speaker 1: we might as well brace ourselves for one hundred at
- 0:16Speaker 1: this point. And you're familiar with the run that Goldberg
- 0:19Speaker 1: was on, like in Nike when I was a kid,
- 0:21Speaker 1: I'm familiar. I'm very familiar. I feel like they're kind
- 0:24Speaker 1: of setting you up to have a similar path. Yeah,
- 0:28Speaker 1: I can see that, but like, this is Jade Cargo's show,
- 0:31Speaker 1: so like that sounds great and everything. Phenomenal, phenomenal wrestler
- 0:36Speaker 1: he was, but he was okay, well, okay, well this
- 0:40Speaker 1: is my legacy. And he looked the part. Yeah he did. Hey,
- 0:45Speaker 1: I look the part. But I'm only gonna get better.
- 0:48Speaker 1: Like and all the women that I'm being compared to,
- 0:51Speaker 1: they've been doing this for five, six, seven, eight years
- 0:54Speaker 1: with the best trainers, repetition house shows, and I'm just
- 0:59Speaker 1: out there just winging and doing the best I can
- 1:01Speaker 1: on live TV. I think everybody should be grateful that
- 1:03Speaker 1: they're seeing this product come to light. Right, So for
- 1:06Speaker 1: people who don't know, you're fairly new to wrestling, Yes,
- 1:10Speaker 1: how long before like was Mark Henry that found you? Yes?
- 1:14Speaker 1: How long? Like are we talking here from like the
- 1:18Speaker 1: first time you got into a gym and started trying
- 1:20Speaker 1: to learn how to take bumps and stuff like that
- 1:22Speaker 1: to now two years? Not even that, not even that,
- 1:28Speaker 1: not even that, not even that, and like most so
- 1:31Speaker 1: other promotions, right, there's the big the big, other big promotion. Right,
- 1:35Speaker 1: there's house shows throughout the week that aren't on TV,
- 1:39Speaker 1: so people can kind of like learn without it being
- 1:42Speaker 1: like Memed with the same partner, yes, right, Yeah, usually
- 1:47Speaker 1: on the house shows you always ar wrestled with the
- 1:49Speaker 1: same person guys you know that you're on TV with,
- 1:51Speaker 1: So you're just kind of like really out here. Obviously
- 1:54Speaker 1: you're training when you're not on TV, but like all
- 1:58Speaker 1: your high pressure situations, you're kind of going through it
- 2:00Speaker 1: with you. Yeah. I mean, for example, the first time
- 2:03Speaker 1: I used a chair, I remember seem Punk was like
- 2:05Speaker 1: you have to choke it up like this, and like
- 2:07Speaker 1: because they were like, oh, yeah, you're gonna use a chair,
- 2:10Speaker 1: I was, I'm gonna use a chair. I've never used
- 2:12Speaker 1: a chair in my life, how do I use a chair?
- 2:14Speaker 1: And no one gave me instructions other than him to
- 2:17Speaker 1: show me how to use a chair? And I had
- 2:18Speaker 1: to perform this on live TV and we'll seem punks
- 2:21Speaker 1: ago that's why. Yeah, so you you've used the chair
- 2:25Speaker 1: for the first time ever ever on TV? On TV?
- 2:29Speaker 1: How that goes? Oh it was pretty interesting. That was
- 2:32Speaker 1: a pretty I that was uh last year. Let's just
- 2:35Speaker 1: move forward. I've learned my lesson, and uh, it's gonna
- 2:37Speaker 1: get better because how because for people, because there's an
- 2:40Speaker 1: art to everything. Yes, And I'm a huge wrestling fan,
- 2:42Speaker 1: and I always tell people like I feel like wrestling
- 2:46Speaker 1: is one of the most like it is art. It
- 2:49Speaker 1: is art. I love that you said that. Yes, it is.
- 2:51Speaker 1: It is an art form that is of the highest
- 2:53Speaker 1: difficulty physically, uh, emotionally, mentally, all of that stuff. Uh.
- 2:59Speaker 1: And there is an art to everything you guys do,
- 3:02Speaker 1: including how to hit somebody with a fucking chair so
- 3:04Speaker 1: you don't kill them. Yeah, so how do you do it?
- 3:07Speaker 1: I can't tell you that what you're trying to get
- 3:09Speaker 1: me he caught up over here, but I will say
- 3:12Speaker 1: that is it is an art. You don't want to
- 3:14Speaker 1: completely destroy your opponent where they can't come back next
- 3:18Speaker 1: week and perform or something like that. But it's all
- 3:20Speaker 1: in art. We're artists and we're trying to paint a
- 3:22Speaker 1: picture for a story that an audience can follow and
- 3:26Speaker 1: just respect and of course, like you have to you
- 3:29Speaker 1: guys have to trust each other in the ring because
- 3:31Speaker 1: everybody is trying to get home at the end of
- 3:33Speaker 1: the day. Yes, yeah, very much, so very much. What like,
- 3:38Speaker 1: because with anybody who's new to wrestling, I'm sure you
- 3:40Speaker 1: had moments where moves get botched or things don't go out.
- 3:46Speaker 1: You got to keep going. You got to keep going.
- 3:47Speaker 1: But like going, do you feel like there was a
- 3:50Speaker 1: certain time or are you still getting to the point
- 3:52Speaker 1: where you feel like you're hitting your stride in terms
- 3:54Speaker 1: of pulling some of it, because you pull off some
- 3:56Speaker 1: pretty crazy shit. Yeah, I have a long way to go,
- 3:59Speaker 1: and I understand that I'm getting more comfortable with the
- 4:02Speaker 1: reps I'm having. I mean, this year, I think I
- 4:04Speaker 1: had under this year alone. I think I had under
- 4:07Speaker 1: twenty matches this year, and when it comes to more
- 4:10Speaker 1: than a five minute match, I think I had less
- 4:12Speaker 1: than ten. And the majority of your favorites say this
- 4:15Speaker 1: year three or twenty two two. Sorry, but your favorites
- 4:21Speaker 1: probably have ten matches in like two months. Yeah, not
- 4:25Speaker 1: even that. I mean, like sure, So for me not
- 4:27Speaker 1: to have these these mining matches, you know, this can
- 4:31Speaker 1: can do a lot to you mentally and physically because
- 4:33Speaker 1: I'm not used to getting these reps in and me practicing.
- 4:37Speaker 1: Jade Karka can only get to her biggest form live
- 4:41Speaker 1: and the more people, the more I'm meant to my character.
- 4:44Speaker 1: So if we have like a dark taping with like
- 4:46Speaker 1: fifty people, I can't get into my character the way
- 4:50Speaker 1: I really want to get into my character unless I
- 4:51Speaker 1: see a sea of people. Because I like, That's why
- 4:54Speaker 1: I do all my heat outside, because I like interacting
- 4:57Speaker 1: with the audience, or I tell the audience, hey you
- 4:59Speaker 1: idiots to ten or five or whatever. I love interacting.
- 5:02Speaker 1: I love them saying oh you suck, or this guy
- 5:05Speaker 1: was like your five to two in person, I was like,
- 5:07Speaker 1: get the fuck out of here, and I like, but
- 5:10Speaker 1: I had to stop because we're on TV, and I
- 5:11Speaker 1: gave her a chokeslam. Now I literally was like, get
- 5:14Speaker 1: the can't say it. And I went over to him
- 5:16Speaker 1: and I said something but I have a long way
- 5:20Speaker 1: to go. Like I said, your favorites have been in
- 5:22Speaker 1: this game for like five seven Brian told me he
- 5:24Speaker 1: didn't get comfortable until like seven years. Wow. So the
- 5:27Speaker 1: fact that I'm on national TV, I'm pulling off moves
- 5:30Speaker 1: and like I'm doing all these transitions, thank you and like,
- 5:33Speaker 1: And the funny thing is, like I can do the
- 5:35Speaker 1: big moves. They're easy. Like it's more so like can
- 5:38Speaker 1: my partner take the move or like take this big bump.
- 5:41Speaker 1: But I can do all these moves. I was a
- 5:43Speaker 1: powerlifter for a long time. Yeah. Well, you were saying
- 5:46Speaker 1: earlier before we're on camera that you've lived through like
- 5:47Speaker 1: five lives. I did. So what were you doing prior
- 5:50Speaker 1: to being a superstar wrestler on AEW So I was
- 5:56Speaker 1: a collegiate basketball player. Do you want? Collegiate basketball player?
- 5:59Speaker 1: Went overseas for two years, played basketball over there. Jacksonville University,
- 6:04Speaker 1: it's a D one university lahaf in Normandy. You know
- 6:09Speaker 1: that France, France. Yeah, it's it's pro pro A. So
- 6:13Speaker 1: then I'm a child psychologist. I was a stay at
- 6:16Speaker 1: home mom and then I supported my spouse who played baseball.
- 6:21Speaker 1: So I did a couple of things. Priborly this, but
- 6:23Speaker 1: also it made me when I got back into well,
- 6:26Speaker 1: when I got the opportunity to get into sports, I
- 6:29Speaker 1: didn't want to let it go. So does your spouse
- 6:33Speaker 1: a trainer? Sorry, I am. When you were with him,
- 6:38Speaker 1: he was in the league, yes, So now does he
- 6:40Speaker 1: get to kind of relax you guys kind of switch positions? Yes,
- 6:43Speaker 1: well you're running around and traveling and performing, and yeah,
- 6:46Speaker 1: we used to stay at home dad, But also we
- 6:48Speaker 1: just brought into a softball team, so we own we're
- 6:51Speaker 1: the fourth owners of a softball team. So there's only
- 6:55Speaker 1: four teams out in the league right now, and it's
- 6:57Speaker 1: going to be in Dallas. So that and then he
- 7:00Speaker 1: the co owner for the Lexton Legends, so right now
- 7:03Speaker 1: Brandon Phillips, so he played for the reds Raves and
- 7:07Speaker 1: want to ring with the Boston Red Sox. So he's
- 7:10Speaker 1: really he's just relaxing right now, seventeen. But he's at
- 7:14Speaker 1: home taking care of our daughter. And now I'm on
- 7:16Speaker 1: the road right now, and I couldn't be more static
- 7:18Speaker 1: because I love it. It's like fun and I don't
- 7:20Speaker 1: need to do it, like I can go home, sit
- 7:22Speaker 1: on my ass and make more money like pleasing my
- 7:24Speaker 1: spouse than like doing all this, But I do it
- 7:27Speaker 1: because I love it. Yeah, I love it. Now we
- 7:30Speaker 1: always hear that, like when like just the wrestlers grind.
- 7:34Speaker 1: It's very taxing. And right now you guys aren't doing
- 7:39Speaker 1: house shows like other companies, right but you guys are
- 7:42Speaker 1: still traveling. How hard is it to juggle being a mom,
- 7:48Speaker 1: being a wife, having all this other stuff going on,
- 7:51Speaker 1: while also being on the road, while also you know,
- 7:54Speaker 1: you're the premier talent on the females. It's just a lot.
- 7:57Speaker 1: It's a lot. You know. We get home on Thursdays
- 8:00Speaker 1: majority of the time, and my daughter, who's five, the
- 8:02Speaker 1: first thing she does is want to play with me,
- 8:04Speaker 1: and I'm like, baby girl, please, like, let me just
- 8:07Speaker 1: take a nap. I've been up since four and I
- 8:09Speaker 1: had to get on this flight right after. I probably
- 8:11Speaker 1: got maybe thirty minutes of sleep if anything. And thankfully
- 8:15Speaker 1: I have a sport, I mean a sport, a husband
- 8:17Speaker 1: who played in sports who understands like the grind and
- 8:20Speaker 1: the fact that I need a break and I need
- 8:22Speaker 1: to relax. Like I got home this week, he set
- 8:24Speaker 1: me up with a massage and everything like that, Like
- 8:26Speaker 1: he does stuff like that because he understands how much
- 8:29Speaker 1: it is as far as taxing on your body and
- 8:31Speaker 1: on your mental and just a fan base and if
- 8:33Speaker 1: they don't like here or whatever. So and the fact
- 8:36Speaker 1: that I have a spouse who's not in wrestling helps
- 8:38Speaker 1: a lot, because only if I want to get away
- 8:41Speaker 1: from the fan base or anything like that, a negative attention,
- 8:44Speaker 1: I could just put my phone down. That's all I
- 8:46Speaker 1: have to do, and he can care less. He's like,
- 8:48Speaker 1: you want to talk about wrestling. Nope, okay, let's talk
- 8:50Speaker 1: about what do you want to talk about? And I
- 8:52Speaker 1: appreciate that. So it's a lot. I couldn't imagine having
- 8:56Speaker 1: more than one child right now. I want more children
- 8:59Speaker 1: right now. It's like, hell no, it's no way I
- 9:02Speaker 1: could do it. But it's a lot. It's a lot.
- 9:06Speaker 1: You you said that you were hanging out with seeing
- 9:09Speaker 1: Punk quite a bit. Yes, at Comic Con. What was
- 9:11Speaker 1: something that you learned from Punk? Because he's my fait,
- 9:14Speaker 1: all time favorite. I love Punk. Just stand on what
- 9:16Speaker 1: you believe and don't be a pushover. And I admired
- 9:22Speaker 1: that because coming into the business and being new, you
- 9:25Speaker 1: know a lot of people it's like you have to
- 9:27Speaker 1: almost shrink yourself a little bit. And I know who
- 9:30Speaker 1: I am. Again, I lived several lives. I've lived real life,
- 9:33Speaker 1: and just because I didn't want to do this all
- 9:37Speaker 1: my life, or because I didn't put in the time,
- 9:40Speaker 1: I refuse to let anybody look at me less than
- 9:43Speaker 1: not refuse for anybody to treat me anything different because
- 9:46Speaker 1: outside of these lines, I'm a human freaking being and
- 9:49Speaker 1: you're not going to treat me like anything else. So
- 9:52Speaker 1: I'm not saying that anyone treated me any type of way.
- 9:55Speaker 1: I'm just saying in wrestling, you hear about that. Yeah,
- 9:58Speaker 1: of course, of course, especially on the indie and I'm
- 10:01Speaker 1: not familiar with the indies at all, but I'm not
- 10:03Speaker 1: going to be walked over. And I refuse for you
- 10:05Speaker 1: to to because I'm Jay Cargill and outside of these lines,
- 10:08Speaker 1: I'm Jay Cargill, So I'm not going to let you
- 10:10Speaker 1: address me anything less. So the fact that he told
- 10:13Speaker 1: me to stand on what I believe and don't be
- 10:15Speaker 1: a pushover that stuck with me. He's a great guy.
- 10:18Speaker 1: How crazy was backstage the night that Punk did that
- 10:22Speaker 1: press conference with Tony Khn sit next to and shit
- 10:25Speaker 1: hit the fan and it was like, I was like,
- 10:28Speaker 1: oh my god, this is amazing. I have no idea.
- 10:31Speaker 1: So I wasn't there. I had already left the stadium.
- 10:33Speaker 1: I had already left right as my match I left.
- 10:35Speaker 1: I was like, all right, like I'm out, guys, and
- 10:37Speaker 1: so I heard about it just like the rest of
- 10:39Speaker 1: the world at the same time. It was pretty shocking.
- 10:42Speaker 1: But I saw that look Tony Khan gave him like yeah, yeah,
- 10:48Speaker 1: But I mean, I don't know. From my opinion, Punk's
- 10:51Speaker 1: a great guy. He's been nothing but nice to the
- 10:52Speaker 1: women's locker room. He talks to me, tells me his experience.
- 10:56Speaker 1: Again at Comic Con. You know, we got really close
- 10:58Speaker 1: because he was my my tag me in the interviews,
- 11:01Speaker 1: and I learned so much from him and so much
- 11:04Speaker 1: knowledge in the industry. And again he's you know, been
- 11:06Speaker 1: in two different companies, and of course he's he can
- 11:09Speaker 1: do whatever the hell he wants to do, so he
- 11:12Speaker 1: doesn't need it. He does it because he loves it,
- 11:14Speaker 1: and that to me speaks speaks to me because I
- 11:18Speaker 1: don't need it. I do it because I love it,
- 11:20Speaker 1: and I appreciate people like that. How did Mark Henry
- 11:23Speaker 1: discover you? We had a mutual friend named Kelsey, and
- 11:27Speaker 1: she asked me jokingly, well, she was seriously a legendary bodybuilder.
- 11:31Speaker 1: He is the world's strongest man. And his friend, Kelsey,
- 11:33Speaker 1: our mutual friend, is a bodybuilder. And she jokingly asked
- 11:37Speaker 1: me about it, but she was serious. I was joking
- 11:40Speaker 1: about it, and I was like, wrestling. I haven't watched
- 11:43Speaker 1: wrestling since, like I was like fourteen years old. We're
- 11:46Speaker 1: talking about wrestling, and she's like yeah. So she had
- 11:49Speaker 1: a serious face, serious tone, and I said, okay, well,
- 11:53Speaker 1: let me let me try this out. I'll all right,
- 11:55Speaker 1: I'll do it. And she was like, okay, well, I
- 11:56Speaker 1: really know a Hall of Famer named Mark Henry and
- 11:59Speaker 1: he can get you into a tryout. And I went
- 12:01Speaker 1: to the tryout and it lit a fire unto my butt,
- 12:03Speaker 1: and I never wanted to let it go since then. Wow. Yeah, yeah, whatever.
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- 13:16Speaker 1: I enjoy I enjoy talking shit to the audience. I
- 13:20Speaker 1: love people telling me what I cannot do, because I'm
- 13:22Speaker 1: gonna do it ten times over. It's like my dream
- 13:25Speaker 1: to be like somehow in a ring at a pay
- 13:27Speaker 1: per view. Yeah, in some way in my life I'll
- 13:30Speaker 1: get fucked if I get famous enough where I could
- 13:32Speaker 1: just go out there and get fucked up, like they
- 13:33Speaker 1: pull Really you want to do that, I'll be like
- 13:35Speaker 1: front row and I get pulled over and I gotta
- 13:37Speaker 1: take a bump or get thrown on the table. Real please,
- 13:40Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you sound like me. I can't wait
- 13:43Speaker 1: to bleed for the first time, to have like a
- 13:44Speaker 1: street fight and like the shot of the blood just
- 13:47Speaker 1: go oozing through my face and my hair, and like
- 13:50Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm doing. I'n'a have to get
- 13:51Speaker 1: a new wig when I'm gonna be the airport. But yeah,
- 13:53Speaker 1: I know I can't wait. I'm yeah, and aw stay
- 13:56Speaker 1: that'd some bloody moments so far, plenty, yeah, plenty. So
- 14:00Speaker 1: whenever I have my first street fight, I mean, if
- 14:02Speaker 1: I allow them to even touch me, then I can't
- 14:05Speaker 1: wait because I'm gonna like just I'm excited. That sounds wild, though,
- 14:10Speaker 1: but that sounds just as wild as you saying you
- 14:12Speaker 1: want to go through a table. Yeah, put me. I
- 14:14Speaker 1: would love to get put through a table. But even
- 14:16Speaker 1: if it's bite like a you know, like a Master
- 14:18Speaker 1: Job or like Dolf Ziggler or somebody, you know, you
- 14:21Speaker 1: want to go through a table regardless. Yeah, all right,
- 14:23Speaker 1: all right, let's maybe put me through a table one day. Yeah,
- 14:26Speaker 1: maybe if I can't touch me. Oh my gosh, that guy,
- 14:31Speaker 1: greatest rapper of all too who what's his real name?
- 14:35Speaker 1: I don't know Shad Moss t moss brou I don't
- 14:39Speaker 1: even know what. Okay, okay, so help me. Yeah. So
- 14:41Speaker 1: this Bowot thing, right, Yeah, how much of the Bowou
- 14:44Speaker 1: thing was like storyline? Like, h, he's obviously a very
- 14:49Speaker 1: small guy. He's kind of small and around now just
- 14:55Speaker 1: like they hit me. He didn't look at I mean,
- 14:57Speaker 1: he doesn't look round at all. I think he's just
- 14:59Speaker 1: you know, fills out in the face a little. But
- 15:01Speaker 1: other than that, yeah, is this a true? So obviously
- 15:05Speaker 1: the battle thing was over shade, it was like everywhere,
- 15:08Speaker 1: Like how much of that was like because break down
- 15:11Speaker 1: the Bow Wow storyline and was it like mostly some
- 15:15Speaker 1: storyline ship on TV or like, like what happened? I
- 15:19Speaker 1: don't know what happened with it. Something was supposed to happen,
- 15:22Speaker 1: it didn't happen, and we moved on from the situation.
- 15:25Speaker 1: Did you ever listen to him growing up? I did.
- 15:27Speaker 1: I think everybody did, but I was more of a
- 15:29Speaker 1: Romeo fan. Really, I was more of a Romeo fan.
- 15:32Speaker 1: I like Bow and they both kind of ran one
- 15:34Speaker 1: O six in park. As a kid, I watched kind of,
- 15:36Speaker 1: but I played basketball, so I was out like at
- 15:38Speaker 1: practice when that came on? When did I come on?
- 15:40Speaker 1: Like seven something like that? Yeah? Uh, how how do
- 15:46Speaker 1: you compare like the basketball grind to the wrestling grind?
- 15:49Speaker 1: Which one's harder because you played real I mean you
- 15:51Speaker 1: played Division one and you played overseas, so yeah, maybe
- 15:55Speaker 1: in overseas. That's why I was done with it because
- 15:57Speaker 1: women didn't make that much money and so I quit
- 15:59Speaker 1: because of that. And also it was just I felt
- 16:02Speaker 1: like I was missing out on all my friends and
- 16:04Speaker 1: them living life and like they couldn't visit me all
- 16:06Speaker 1: the time because they had jobs. So I was like
- 16:09Speaker 1: this is great, and like I'm experiencing life and like traveling,
- 16:12Speaker 1: but I want to go back home and be with
- 16:14Speaker 1: my friends. Yeah, and even if it's like the peak
- 16:16Speaker 1: of being a female basket player as a WNBA, like, financially,
- 16:19Speaker 1: that's not that fucking great. If they made as much
- 16:22Speaker 1: as the men, I would be out there shooting, even
- 16:24Speaker 1: if they're going out nothing on. I think makes who
- 16:28Speaker 1: makes the most money? I don't. I don't know. I
- 16:30Speaker 1: think Donald Roy. Yeah, I think she does, but she
- 16:33Speaker 1: doesn't make more than Like I'm just gonna throw a
- 16:34Speaker 1: crazy number out there, then twelve million dollars. No, she don't.
- 16:37Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. No, I honestly think she makes
- 16:39Speaker 1: like two hundred grand a year. Yeah, I swear to god,
- 16:41Speaker 1: I don't think it's that much. You're lying. See, that's
- 16:43Speaker 1: that's so I don't understand. Listen's the reason why I am.
- 16:46Speaker 1: And Listen shouts to Britney Grant, Glad she's home. There's
- 16:47Speaker 1: a reason why she had to go to rush of them. Yeah. Yeah, Well,
- 16:50Speaker 1: a lot of these so overseas, a lot of these
- 16:53Speaker 1: these leagues they lock you in to where they give
- 16:55Speaker 1: you a contract that says, hey, I want you to
- 16:57Speaker 1: stay here and like Tel Aviv and not play in
- 16:59Speaker 1: the double U NBA because of the season, So they'll
- 17:01Speaker 1: do that, but they'll pay you way more over there
- 17:03Speaker 1: and depending like if you're a Monaco is tax free,
- 17:06Speaker 1: So I mean overseas is where it's at when it
- 17:08Speaker 1: comes to women making money as far as basketball. But
- 17:11Speaker 1: you're missing out on like home life. That's the only
- 17:13Speaker 1: thing that sucks about it. And you have to have
- 17:16Speaker 1: an insane level of unhealthy fans in terms of like, haha,
- 17:21Speaker 1: step on me fans some of the weird shit they
- 17:24Speaker 1: say to you. Yeah, I can only imagine your dms
- 17:27Speaker 1: are I could. They could probably be a dark place
- 17:29Speaker 1: every once in a while. Yeah, I used to get
- 17:32Speaker 1: those kind of pictures all the time. And I think
- 17:34Speaker 1: because now I post my family a little more and
- 17:36Speaker 1: my spouse, they kind of like back off more so.
- 17:39Speaker 1: But you know, people like that domination stuff. I feel
- 17:42Speaker 1: like I feel like I just I just feel like
- 17:45Speaker 1: men are very creepy. They can be well wrestling come on,
- 17:48Speaker 1: wrestling fans are And I was gonna say, okay, there's
- 17:52Speaker 1: a great male wrestling fans. Yeah, and there's a whole
- 17:55Speaker 1: fucking just yeah, God bless them. I'm a male wrestling fan.
- 17:59Speaker 1: I mean, I'm married and you know, I get laid,
- 18:00Speaker 1: but like a lot of them. So you're admitting that
- 18:03Speaker 1: you're weird. You said earlier you were weird. No, I'm
- 18:08Speaker 1: a normal I'm like of the minority of people who
- 18:11Speaker 1: watch wrestling. But you know there's a lot of those guys. Yeah, yeah,
- 18:15Speaker 1: I get a lot, But in person, they get afraid,
- 18:18Speaker 1: they get timid, they get afraid. They really don't say much,
- 18:20Speaker 1: like they'll say, oh, can I get a picture. It's
- 18:23Speaker 1: like I don't do that guy that I'm gonna say.
- 18:25Speaker 1: Have you had people send you unsolicited new photos of themselves? Yeah?
- 18:28Speaker 1: I have. I mean, but everybody does. I think No, Okay,
- 18:32Speaker 1: all right, well maybe maybe my man used to go
- 18:34Speaker 1: to different cities and women would be in his d
- 18:36Speaker 1: ms and all kind of crazy stuff. So you know,
- 18:39Speaker 1: I'm not there's there's a difference in our income levels. Yeah,
- 18:42Speaker 1: I get you know, I can only imagine what that's
- 18:46Speaker 1: like to like be like that's I feel like that's
- 18:48Speaker 1: like fucking a form of sexual assault, Like bro is it?
- 18:51Speaker 1: It feels like it should be. These people have like
- 18:53Speaker 1: cats is like their default pictures. So I can't wait
- 18:56Speaker 1: to be able. Yeah, you're a person. I'm a well
- 18:59Speaker 1: I'm about that. Have both, Yeah, I have both. But
- 19:01Speaker 1: the cats are easy to deal within a dog. But
- 19:03Speaker 1: I love they're you know, the cats stay handled out,
- 19:06Speaker 1: but they're total bitches like they just and that's the
- 19:09Speaker 1: reason my cat. I love her, but like she just
- 19:11Speaker 1: she don't want to be touched when you beat up
- 19:13Speaker 1: your dog. Yes, yeah, that's the only reason I want
- 19:16Speaker 1: to get a cat. I tell my wife all the
- 19:18Speaker 1: time is we have a friend sheet and a Pomeranian. Yeah,
- 19:21Speaker 1: I just want to get a cat. So you just
- 19:23Speaker 1: box the ship out of the French bulldog and we
- 19:26Speaker 1: go on TikTok with that's horrible. My cat doesn't like
- 19:28Speaker 1: our dog. But our dog is like a miniature it
- 19:31Speaker 1: was a miniature King Charles. So it's like it's just
- 19:35Speaker 1: it is. It's a small little dog. But he's like,
- 19:38Speaker 1: well she is so scary, so like she'll let the dog,
- 19:41Speaker 1: like the cat just beat her up. And I'm like,
- 19:43Speaker 1: come on, man, you're a dog, Like, come on, those
- 19:45Speaker 1: cats are they're serious the same age. Yeah, you're from Florida.
- 19:51Speaker 1: Rick Ross has been on a w a lot recently.
- 19:53Speaker 1: Have you ran into him? Backstage troll. I have sweet guy,
- 19:56Speaker 1: nice guy, very professional guy, and the what you from him,
- 20:00Speaker 1: that's like him. They don't rehearse. They just go out
- 20:03Speaker 1: there and just spit. But also he's an entertainer, so
- 20:06Speaker 1: that's what he does. So when it came like to
- 20:09Speaker 1: the bow Wow situation, Bob was just an entertainer. He
- 20:11Speaker 1: just spit and that's what they do, is entertainers. Like Shaq.
- 20:14Speaker 1: When he came and he performed with me before going out.
- 20:17Speaker 1: He was like, I said, don't embarrass me. He's like,
- 20:19Speaker 1: don't you embarrass me? And he's an entertainer. He said
- 20:23Speaker 1: yes to my first match with Cody Rhods in Red Velvet,
- 20:26Speaker 1: he looked at me dead in my eyes and said
- 20:28Speaker 1: they're gonna eat and like anything I do out there
- 20:30Speaker 1: because I'm an entertainer and so yeah, and he was
- 20:33Speaker 1: like so you yeah. I was like what, Like, but
- 20:38Speaker 1: I thought that was funny. That was your first match
- 20:40Speaker 1: ever ever, That's what I'm saying, Like people are watching,
- 20:43Speaker 1: that was my Prior to that, I had an off
- 20:45Speaker 1: grid match where I was a face and it was
- 20:48Speaker 1: like five minutes and that was the only match I've
- 20:51Speaker 1: ever had ever Prior to my debut, and most people
- 20:54Speaker 1: have plenty of house shows and so many reps and
- 20:58Speaker 1: like have perfected. I didn't know I was turning hill
- 21:01Speaker 1: until I thought it was going to be a face.
- 21:03Speaker 1: And the first night I went out there to do
- 21:05Speaker 1: my promo, they're like, yeah, you're going through the hill
- 21:07Speaker 1: in hotel and I was like, wait, so does that
- 21:09Speaker 1: mean I'm a hill? Like, yeah, you're a hill. I'd
- 21:12Speaker 1: love to be a heel. So it's fun, it's fun.
- 21:15Speaker 1: I love it. I would be like, I want to
- 21:16Speaker 1: make a child cry in the audience every night I
- 21:18Speaker 1: go out there. That's what I would want to do.
- 21:20Speaker 1: I flicked some kids off, but I have a kid, right, no, no, no,
- 21:23Speaker 1: if somebody messes with my kids, just want to do
- 21:26Speaker 1: something to their hero. Okay, it makes them cry. You
- 21:30Speaker 1: got to mess with them too, Yeah, you got to like, yeah,
- 21:32Speaker 1: that's why your mom's cheating on your fucking dad. Oh
- 21:35Speaker 1: my god, what have you seen? M j F? Well Max,
- 21:38Speaker 1: Max does it? Yeah yeah, yeah, So you you this
- 21:41Speaker 1: whole this whole time. You've been a heel for the
- 21:43Speaker 1: most part, right, Yes, that's all I've been is a hill.
- 21:45Speaker 1: But I get cheered and I'm like what the fuck
- 21:47Speaker 1: I say that? Yeah, yeah, okay, all right, yeah, well
- 21:51Speaker 1: company is not publicly traded to be a right, all right,
- 21:54Speaker 1: all right? Oh my god, give me in trouble. So
- 21:57Speaker 1: what was so talk about Shack Because she killing you
- 22:00Speaker 1: obviously is you know the man. But to me, that's
- 22:03Speaker 1: kind of a that's a pretty wild first match. You're
- 22:07Speaker 1: tag teaming with somebody who's not a wrestler. No, but
- 22:09Speaker 1: he's been in that in that stage before at WWE
- 22:12Speaker 1: against the Cody who's like the face of the company.
- 22:16Speaker 1: How nervous were you? I wasn't nervous, Wow at all?
- 22:19Speaker 1: I think because again, I played college sports and I've
- 22:22Speaker 1: performed in front of thousands of people, and I've done
- 22:26Speaker 1: all Star games and things of that sort. It just
- 22:29Speaker 1: you're gonna get what you get. And even when like
- 22:31Speaker 1: I've been out there and the cheer shots or anything
- 22:35Speaker 1: of that sort, and it's something I've never done before,
- 22:37Speaker 1: I just I don't know, like I have this thing
- 22:39Speaker 1: where it's like fight or flight and I'm like, JJ,
- 22:43Speaker 1: you know, are how our fan base is? So you
- 22:46Speaker 1: just got to go out here and do the best
- 22:48Speaker 1: you can. And it is what the fuck it is?
- 22:52Speaker 1: How hard is it to get the promo part down,
- 22:54Speaker 1: because it's I think it's almost there's people who their
- 22:58Speaker 1: entire WWF career is based on their ability to rock
- 23:01Speaker 1: a mic, you know, or wrestling career. I know what
- 23:05Speaker 1: you meant, but you know what I mean. So for you, like,
- 23:09Speaker 1: how much work do you put into mastering that part
- 23:11Speaker 1: of the game, because it's as important as the in
- 23:14Speaker 1: ring stuff. It's like they've kind of one hand washes
- 23:16Speaker 1: the other a lot. And I take acting classes, so
- 23:19Speaker 1: it helps. I take improv classes. It helps tremendously. But
- 23:23Speaker 1: also my character is nothing but an extension of myself.
- 23:26Speaker 1: So me saying like I got this, I got money,
- 23:29Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff like I do, and I'm
- 23:31Speaker 1: just I'm speaking from the heart. I'm just not as
- 23:33Speaker 1: bitchy with it. Like I'm really a chill, laid back person,
- 23:36Speaker 1: Like I'll post like a little stuff here and there,
- 23:38Speaker 1: but I'm not showing you like everything. And I live
- 23:41Speaker 1: in Atlanta, so you don't want to get robbed, but
- 23:43Speaker 1: so I don't post everything. But I heard it. It's
- 23:46Speaker 1: just me. It's really high, even like in Buckhead where
- 23:48Speaker 1: it's like nice, that's where you stand Buckhead, I had
- 23:51Speaker 1: to move out. It's wild. Do you hear gunshots at
- 23:53Speaker 1: like two o'clock in the morning, three o'clock and the
- 23:56Speaker 1: neighbors talk through like an app, so like did you
- 23:58Speaker 1: is that gunshots? And like, yeah, it's gunshots. All my
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- 26:28Speaker 1: and like a watch I just me and my boy,
- 26:30Speaker 1: we're just talking who we thought me and my co
- 26:32Speaker 1: host James, We're just talking about who we thought were
- 26:36Speaker 1: the best uh guys on the mic in wrestling history.
- 26:40Speaker 1: And because I always dive in these like YouTube rabbit
- 26:43Speaker 1: holes of like promos and like the Rock or Paul
- 26:45Speaker 1: Hamon or guys like that, or Jericho was a fucking
- 26:48Speaker 1: amazing on the seam Punk is like, well, you're a
- 26:51Speaker 1: seam punk fan too. He is the man. He is
- 26:53Speaker 1: the man. But do you ever go back and like
- 26:55Speaker 1: watch some of the greats and like some of the
- 26:57Speaker 1: like some of the methods that they use, like like
- 27:01Speaker 1: one of the best, and he spoke with like he
- 27:03Speaker 1: was calm with it, So I don't. My thing is
- 27:06Speaker 1: where I'm trying to master is being able to talk
- 27:08Speaker 1: like this, right, but I'm supposed to come off like
- 27:11Speaker 1: a total like raging, like angry woman, And so I'm
- 27:16Speaker 1: trying to master being calm and collect it and being
- 27:20Speaker 1: able to deliver exactly what the hell I want to
- 27:22Speaker 1: deliver in a raging way, but a calm voice, which
- 27:25Speaker 1: is so I'm trying to find that tone right now
- 27:30Speaker 1: rather than be like I'm that bitch and like yelling
- 27:33Speaker 1: all the time. So but when I'm in the ring
- 27:35Speaker 1: and I'm doing these promos, like my blood just starts
- 27:37Speaker 1: pumping and like I just get this energy and you
- 27:40Speaker 1: hear the crowd yelling, and then that's when the rage
- 27:43Speaker 1: comes out and you start screaming because you're starting to
- 27:45Speaker 1: feel it. And I'm trying to just set back the
- 27:48Speaker 1: tone a little bit and like, Okay, y'all feel this,
- 27:51Speaker 1: but like I'll get to where I need to go
- 27:52Speaker 1: with the yelling right now, I need to keep it mellow,
- 27:55Speaker 1: So I do check out all the grades. I saw
- 27:58Speaker 1: you hang out with Naomi, who's obviously sweet woman, super
- 28:01Speaker 1: cool chick. Have any of the like veterans, whether they're
- 28:06Speaker 1: with AW or not, like reached out to you to
- 28:09Speaker 1: give you any pointers or they're like maybe yeah, plenty,
- 28:12Speaker 1: plenty plenty. A lot of people in this business want
- 28:14Speaker 1: me to succeed. And when I say a lot of people,
- 28:16Speaker 1: a lot of the veterans, like all the old school
- 28:19Speaker 1: people that you see, they want me to succeed, and
- 28:22Speaker 1: they understand they see money, so they're like, hey, like
- 28:25Speaker 1: one thing they appreciate, especially at all the old school
- 28:28Speaker 1: guys at AW, they're like, you know, you look good
- 28:31Speaker 1: like that, that's great. Like Sting, he's like a lot
- 28:35Speaker 1: of people want this, like you don't have to do much,
- 28:38Speaker 1: Like you don't have to go out there and do
- 28:39Speaker 1: all the slippy stuff, Like you don't have to do
- 28:40Speaker 1: all that. People want this, like you don't have to
- 28:42Speaker 1: do a lot, but let me help you fine tune
- 28:44Speaker 1: these other things that you can do. Because Sting was
- 28:47Speaker 1: a great looking wrestler for sure, and he came in
- 28:49Speaker 1: and just excelled, but he understood, like you don't have
- 28:51Speaker 1: to do a lot to get over and do all
- 28:53Speaker 1: these things. So the old school people they love the
- 28:56Speaker 1: fact and I said, oh school, They're gonna kill me
- 28:58Speaker 1: when I say that, I mean, yeah, yeah. Well the
- 29:01Speaker 1: older our coaches and our agents, they appreciate the fact
- 29:05Speaker 1: that one I come in and daily and grind, like
- 29:08Speaker 1: I hit up Brian every week like, hey, can we
- 29:10Speaker 1: train on Wednesday? Can we train on Wednesday? Because I
- 29:12Speaker 1: want to get better, Like I didn't enter this sport
- 29:16Speaker 1: to be good, Like I don't want to transition into
- 29:19Speaker 1: the next thing until I'm great at this and people
- 29:22Speaker 1: can talk with all the crap they want. Everybody knows
- 29:25Speaker 1: I'm going to be great at this and I say
- 29:27Speaker 1: that with so much confidence because I am, and I
- 29:30Speaker 1: put in the work to say that, and I've just started,
- 29:32Speaker 1: and I'm getting compared to so many amazing women that
- 29:36Speaker 1: have been doing this for so long and have the
- 29:38Speaker 1: best of everything. And the fact that I've came from nothing.
- 29:42Speaker 1: I didn't watch wrestling. I watch it and I study
- 29:44Speaker 1: it now and I respect it. You can't beat that.
- 29:48Speaker 1: So I'm only going to get better and that's undeniable.
- 29:51Speaker 1: So the veterans look at me and they give me
- 29:53Speaker 1: so much respect. And they give me so such great
- 29:55Speaker 1: advice about keeping my head clear and just focusing and
- 29:59Speaker 1: knowing that you're gonna be good. Just don't you know,
- 30:02Speaker 1: don't be too cocky, don't get be so full of
- 30:04Speaker 1: yourself where it blinds you and it gets in the
- 30:06Speaker 1: way of your success. How hard was it because like
- 30:08Speaker 1: you really didn't you say you you really didn't watch wrestling? Right?
- 30:12Speaker 1: I washed it until I was fourteen, but you know,
- 30:14Speaker 1: like obviously, yeah, I mean that was a long time ago.
- 30:17Speaker 1: But like, is it like because we always I at
- 30:20Speaker 1: least perceive wrestling to kind of be like it's like
- 30:23Speaker 1: a fraternity. There's a lot of unwritten rules, there's a
- 30:26Speaker 1: lot of thing they don't want to They want to
- 30:28Speaker 1: keep outsiders out as much as possible. It's like any industry, right,
- 30:34Speaker 1: but it's it's wrestling is like very much the good
- 30:36Speaker 1: old Boys Club. It feels like so like as an
- 30:39Speaker 1: outsider coming in, where was there like a learning curve
- 30:43Speaker 1: or like a curve of dealing with maybe hate or
- 30:46Speaker 1: just trying to figure out the politics backstage hate politics.
- 30:51Speaker 1: I think the experience I got at the tryout gave
- 30:54Speaker 1: me a lot of insights and Mark Henry again, gave
- 30:58Speaker 1: me a lot of advice. I go up to people,
- 30:59Speaker 1: act advice, be kind, ask what can you do? Can
- 31:01Speaker 1: you clean up after shake everybody's hand when they talk,
- 31:05Speaker 1: you shut up? Like And I understood that from playing
- 31:07Speaker 1: basketball and having someone take lead and lead. And I
- 31:11Speaker 1: think that me being an athlete prior helped me in
- 31:13Speaker 1: so many different ways and directions with respect and just
- 31:17Speaker 1: being able to go out there and dominate in the
- 31:20Speaker 1: ways that I have. Also when I came into aw
- 31:24Speaker 1: and when I won the belt, I mean, I don't
- 31:25Speaker 1: think anybody would like that. I just came in out
- 31:28Speaker 1: of nowhere. These other girls have been grinding on the
- 31:30Speaker 1: indies for years. They have a fan base, like they've
- 31:34Speaker 1: they've they've given a lot of their time and work
- 31:37Speaker 1: and all this kind of body to the sport. And
- 31:40Speaker 1: here I am coming in and I look good and
- 31:42Speaker 1: it's like, all right, you're kind of being shot to
- 31:43Speaker 1: the top right now. But at the end of the day, yeah,
- 31:46Speaker 1: they can. People can say and feel the way they feel.
- 31:48Speaker 1: But that's a lot on my shoulder now because I've
- 31:50Speaker 1: been given a belt and I've been putting in a
- 31:52Speaker 1: position that let's be real, I wasn't ready for. But
- 31:55Speaker 1: I know that I have to step in these shoes
- 31:58Speaker 1: and I have to go out there and act like
- 31:59Speaker 1: every things okay and mentally clear my head and focus
- 32:03Speaker 1: and try to do the best I can do. I
- 32:06Speaker 1: think I'm doing perfectly fine. Regardless of how anybody felt
- 32:09Speaker 1: in the locker room. I still only person that I
- 32:11Speaker 1: care about pleasing is Tony Kahan. That's it, Hey boss.
- 32:15Speaker 1: You like what you've seen? Great, Hey boss, what you want?
- 32:18Speaker 1: That's all that matters. Nice guy, great guy, great guy.
- 32:22Speaker 1: And he's like a fan first, right, yeah he is,
- 32:24Speaker 1: Like he's so rich. I'm like, you want to get
- 32:26Speaker 1: in the wrestling business. Yeah, well, if you sit down
- 32:28Speaker 1: here and talk about old school wrestling or any type
- 32:30Speaker 1: of wrestling, he can tell you anything that you want
- 32:32Speaker 1: to know. He's so in tune. You want to talk
- 32:33Speaker 1: about Boys Club, He's a part of that. Like he
- 32:36Speaker 1: loves wrestling. So is Billy Gunn one of your trainers?
- 32:39Speaker 1: He is right now, he's my agent. So all my
- 32:40Speaker 1: matches that you've seen, probably my last ten matches he's done.
- 32:46Speaker 1: He's been my agent for great guy, Like understands what
- 32:50Speaker 1: I need and understands the the that I don't need
- 32:53Speaker 1: to do much. And that's what I appreciate from him
- 32:55Speaker 1: because he's a big guy. And prior to that I
- 32:58Speaker 1: was working with great coaches, but he understood like, hey,
- 33:02Speaker 1: he won, he sold tickets, he puts asses in Yeah,
- 33:04Speaker 1: one of the greatest of course. So and he has
- 33:07Speaker 1: the body of I mean, you see his body at
- 33:09Speaker 1: his age is freaking wild. And I know it's wild,
- 33:14Speaker 1: so I mean it is wild. He understands he's good,
- 33:19Speaker 1: oh my gosh. But he understands what it is to
- 33:22Speaker 1: put asses in seats for sure, and he understands what
- 33:25Speaker 1: you need to do to get over and not doing
- 33:27Speaker 1: too much. He's a very much a minimum like minimalistic guy.
- 33:31Speaker 1: When you see him out there, does he puts you
- 33:32Speaker 1: on like face sign with the road dog Jesse James,
- 33:35Speaker 1: No crowdship, No, no, no, no. He just talks from
- 33:39Speaker 1: his heart like he's he's great. He talks like one
- 33:41Speaker 1: of my coaches, and he plays sports prior, so we
- 33:44Speaker 1: just have that sports connection where you can sit there
- 33:46Speaker 1: and he talks to me like a coach captain. Yet no, no,
- 33:50Speaker 1: you guys know from Florida. All right, listen, I'm with
- 33:53Speaker 1: one thing I want to be is the female rock
- 33:55Speaker 1: That might sound wild, but I don't do that, no,
- 33:58Speaker 1: because when I say that, people act like it's like
- 34:00Speaker 1: at the end of the world, and it's like, I
- 34:01Speaker 1: don't understand. Why would you shoot somebody's dreams If that's
- 34:04Speaker 1: what they want to be, If they think they can
- 34:06Speaker 1: do that, then hell somebody tomorrow. I feel like they can.
- 34:09Speaker 1: I don't know, hit rock Bottom moment, freak. See you
- 34:11Speaker 1: don't do it, you can do Oh yeah, I could
- 34:12Speaker 1: do movies. Yeah, I'm not worried about any of that.
- 34:15Speaker 1: I know it's coming regardless of what anybody says. But
- 34:18Speaker 1: I mean, I have total respect for this man, and
- 34:20Speaker 1: I let's cross our fingers. We just saw someone like
- 34:25Speaker 1: Sasha Banks leave one of the bigger US promotions go
- 34:29Speaker 1: over to New Japan. Wrestling the last ten years has
- 34:33Speaker 1: been like insane in terms of just the female wrestling
- 34:39Speaker 1: world is Like, you know, when I was growing up,
- 34:42Speaker 1: it was hard to get a female to headline a
- 34:46Speaker 1: pay per view. Happens all the time. Now, Yeah, the
- 34:49Speaker 1: revolution is here and it's been great. Like when you
- 34:52Speaker 1: think of like and not obviously coming from you who's
- 34:56Speaker 1: not maybe as hardcore of a wrestling fan, but you've
- 34:59Speaker 1: been in the business. Now, who do you kind of
- 35:01Speaker 1: look up to in terms of other female wrestlers that
- 35:05Speaker 1: you might not necessarily have a relationship with, but you
- 35:07Speaker 1: just kind of, you know, admire them for what they've
- 35:11Speaker 1: done and what they're doing. I think Charlotte Fair is great.
- 35:14Speaker 1: I think she's a very sound wrestler. She can do
- 35:17Speaker 1: all the flippy shit that you want to do. She
- 35:19Speaker 1: can go out there and have a hardcore match. I
- 35:21Speaker 1: think she's a total total package that we have as
- 35:23Speaker 1: far as an example for a woman, right, and she's like,
- 35:25Speaker 1: fucking she's a lady. Yeah, she leaves and comes back
- 35:30Speaker 1: and then she like it's like she never left. Yeah.
- 35:33Speaker 1: So I mean, I think she's phenomenal what she does.
- 35:35Speaker 1: People can talk, say whatever they want. I think she's
- 35:37Speaker 1: a great wrestler. Okay, and you're a bodybuilder. You're in
- 35:40Speaker 1: amazing shape. Thank you for somebody who is like me
- 35:44Speaker 1: or bow wow, and probably on the better side of
- 35:46Speaker 1: our He keeps bringing this guy up. I don't know why.
- 35:49Speaker 1: Let's say we're in our thirties or on the you know,
- 35:51Speaker 1: the the our better days are behind us. What diet
- 35:55Speaker 1: should we go with? Should we go with? Keto should
- 35:57Speaker 1: we go with, like what are we doing? It's not
- 35:59Speaker 1: that easy. I would have to know like your percentage.
- 36:02Speaker 1: I wouldn't have to know like so much about you.
- 36:04Speaker 1: And so when people so when people ask me, like, hey,
- 36:08Speaker 1: what should I eat, I'm like, I don't know because
- 36:10Speaker 1: I need to know your genetic makeup? What eat? I
- 36:13Speaker 1: eat whatever I want to eat. I'm out a point, yes,
- 36:16Speaker 1: so what are you doing outside? Explain that? Let me
- 36:18Speaker 1: explain that. You explain you're in a pristine condition. Yeah, well,
- 36:22Speaker 1: let me explain that. So I eat whatever I want
- 36:24Speaker 1: to eat, but it's relatively healthy food. I've found what
- 36:27Speaker 1: I like to eat. So you like healthy food, you
- 36:30Speaker 1: just don't know what. And it took me three years
- 36:33Speaker 1: to figure it out in a lot of money, and
- 36:34Speaker 1: like going down the island picking stuff out and looking
- 36:36Speaker 1: at all these healthy pages and stuff. What do you
- 36:38Speaker 1: stay away from pizza? I'm not a big Hamburger fan,
- 36:42Speaker 1: and but I've like my palette has changed, like I
- 36:45Speaker 1: don't because I don't eat that stuff as much, like
- 36:48Speaker 1: I don't really crave it as much. The only thing
- 36:50Speaker 1: I do that's really bad is soda. That's it. I know,
- 36:54Speaker 1: I know, And I'm a I'm a country girl. I
- 36:56Speaker 1: love me some mountain dude. And that's the worst. That's
- 36:58Speaker 1: the worst soda ever. And it's but it's so good.
- 37:01Speaker 1: I like coke. I like coke too, but it like
- 37:04Speaker 1: hits you. It depends you like the fountain drink or
- 37:06Speaker 1: like because the fat drink hits you different. Yeah, it does.
- 37:09Speaker 1: The thing about mountain dew is a white guy. I
- 37:11Speaker 1: can't be white and drink mountains why A be a
- 37:14Speaker 1: wrestling fan? Why not and be a wrestling fan. I
- 37:16Speaker 1: can't do all of those. What do you mean why?
- 37:19Speaker 1: I don't think I'm a fucking jugglo. That's not to
- 37:21Speaker 1: shoot up a school or something. No, mountain dew is good,
- 37:24Speaker 1: it's it's not bad, But I could. I just can't
- 37:27Speaker 1: be the white dude who watches wrestling and drinks mountain dew.
- 37:32Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. I love mountain dew.
- 37:34Speaker 1: It's just so bad. It's so bad for you. I know,
- 37:37Speaker 1: I know it's so bad. But do you just like
- 37:39Speaker 1: the normal mountain? A cold red or about how blast?
- 37:41Speaker 1: I love the cold red that's the best one, but
- 37:43Speaker 1: I can get enough of it. My son is obsessed
- 37:45Speaker 1: with code red it's the best. We get him like
- 37:47Speaker 1: bottles of it for Christmas. It's so good. But it
- 37:49Speaker 1: has to be cold, like it has to be cold.
- 37:50Speaker 1: It needs to be cold. But since you like coke,
- 37:53Speaker 1: put it in the freezer prior to you drinking it.
- 37:55Speaker 1: And it's like the best tasting coke that you have.
- 37:58Speaker 1: I love cold coke, but that's all they had on
- 38:01Speaker 1: the seas that was like the same icy coke. Or
- 38:03Speaker 1: there's something about McDonald's coke that hits different. Yeah, like
- 38:06Speaker 1: your whole chest is on fire. They got that special
- 38:09Speaker 1: concoction of syrup it goes, and then they got that
- 38:11Speaker 1: and then they got that orange high sea shit and
- 38:13Speaker 1: McDonald's you can't get nowhere else. No, oh my gosh, Yeah,
- 38:16Speaker 1: you saw you like soda. When's last time you went
- 38:17Speaker 1: to McDonald's and ate food on the road? Probably like
- 38:20Speaker 1: three months ago. I had some fries, that's it. God
- 38:23Speaker 1: bless you. Yeah. I'm not big into like fast food,
- 38:25Speaker 1: but I will eat it. If it's a cookie that
- 38:27Speaker 1: I want to eat, I'm gonna eat that cookie. Or
- 38:29Speaker 1: if I eat something about I'm just gonna get up
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- 39:50Speaker 1: Seven eight, well five days a week, five days a week.
- 39:52Speaker 1: Money with our schedule, it's more so like Friday through Tuesday.
- 39:57Speaker 1: Are you doing two days one to day? What are
- 39:59Speaker 1: we doing to day? No? No No, no, well basically because
- 40:01Speaker 1: I trained, so I trained like three short days calories
- 40:04Speaker 1: doing that. Yeah, so like two days, yeah, like three
- 40:07Speaker 1: four days a week. Wow, Yeah, it's a lot. It
- 40:10Speaker 1: is a lot. Yeah, it's a lot. And then traveling
- 40:12Speaker 1: and being on your feet all the time. Yeah, and
- 40:14Speaker 1: being on your feet, Yeah, it's a lot. Well, listen,
- 40:18Speaker 1: what's the next big pay per view? I heard said
- 40:20Speaker 1: the Matter of your Life on Friday? Did I? That's
- 40:23Speaker 1: what I just heard from Blake. Blake was telling me.
- 40:25Speaker 1: It was nice. I had a great time, it was fun.
- 40:26Speaker 1: I'm starting so I'm starting to just live in the moment,
- 40:29Speaker 1: and that's something got Brian has always been. Who is
- 40:33Speaker 1: Brian Danielson, Oh, Daniel Brian, Yeah, that's your guy because
- 40:38Speaker 1: I love him. I love him. Does he still live
- 40:41Speaker 1: in Phoenix with his wife. I'm not sure because I'm
- 40:43Speaker 1: from Phoenix and he was living there. I think he
- 40:45Speaker 1: stays in like Washington or something. I love Daniel. He's
- 40:49Speaker 1: such a nice guy. He's great too, Like, but I
- 40:53Speaker 1: fucking love that guy. Oh my gosh, she's gotta say
- 40:55Speaker 1: this over and over, Brian, he loves you. You don't understand.
- 40:58Speaker 1: I got all the shirts, I got the n yes, yes, yes, yes,
- 41:00Speaker 1: I got all that ship. He's great. Him and Kane
- 41:02Speaker 1: is a tag team team. Hell no, Oh my gosh,
- 41:05Speaker 1: so good. And he finally won the fucking belt and
- 41:08Speaker 1: he got injured. That broke my heart. I almost cried.
- 41:12Speaker 1: He's a nice What you see is what he like,
- 41:15Speaker 1: how he really is. He's a really nice guy. He's
- 41:17Speaker 1: not like he doesn't play off, he doesn't let people
- 41:20Speaker 1: try him, but like he's a very sound guy that
- 41:23Speaker 1: he's like training you. Yeah, he changed me on Wednesdays. Yes,
- 41:26Speaker 1: Like technically he's like one of the greatest wrestlers I know.
- 41:29Speaker 1: And Tony Khan is the one who set that up. Yeah,
- 41:31Speaker 1: he's great. He's really, really great. But he told me,
- 41:35Speaker 1: he said the first thing he always asked me when
- 41:37Speaker 1: I come back is uh, like I'll say, oh man,
- 41:39Speaker 1: I messed this up or whatever I have to say.
- 41:41Speaker 1: He's like, Jade, did you enjoy yourself? And then so
- 41:45Speaker 1: now I'm living in the moment and like before, it's
- 41:47Speaker 1: like four different layers to like wrestling, you have to
- 41:49Speaker 1: listen to this person, this person, but now I'm like
- 41:51Speaker 1: filling the crowd and I'm reaction yeah I know. And
- 41:55Speaker 1: he's just like, I don't know how you do it.
- 41:57Speaker 1: Like you're only two years here on National TV and
- 41:59Speaker 1: you're having a do this and that and like that's astounding. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 42:06Speaker 1: He told me about all this stuff, Like how he
- 42:07Speaker 1: got comfortable with promos was he would sing the Star
- 42:10Speaker 1: Spangled Banner in UK, like he had to do that.
- 42:14Speaker 1: And he loves karaoke, and so I was like, oh,
- 42:18Speaker 1: he's like, if you want to get comfortable with doing promos,
- 42:20Speaker 1: do karaoke. Like you should definitely do karaoke and you'll
- 42:23Speaker 1: be fine. Wow. So but working with someone like that,
- 42:26Speaker 1: I'm getting very comfortable in the ring, and like he's
- 42:30Speaker 1: just like you need to like just breathe in the audience.
- 42:32Speaker 1: You'll have so much fun if you just like live
- 42:35Speaker 1: in the moment and like with the hits and all
- 42:37Speaker 1: this kind of stuff, like just breathe and like take
- 42:39Speaker 1: it in and listen, like you're gonna be fine. And
- 42:42Speaker 1: now I'm getting more comfortable, and now I'm getting more
- 42:44Speaker 1: reps as I just had three matches like back to
- 42:47Speaker 1: back with these weeks, like it's been helping tremendously. Like
- 42:52Speaker 1: that's all I need is reps. If we have house shows,
- 42:54Speaker 1: that's even better for me. But me having one match
- 42:56Speaker 1: and like once every two months. Yeah, and then you're
- 43:01Speaker 1: the champ, so they want you. They don't want you
- 43:03Speaker 1: wrestling every week. No, No, you know I'm the prize possession. Yeah,
- 43:06Speaker 1: they got to protect you. You gotta get to you
- 43:08Speaker 1: gotta get to one hundred and oh I am. Well,
- 43:10Speaker 1: let's focus on fifty. But there's no way they're getting
- 43:14Speaker 1: you forty eight, not getting you to fifty. There's just
- 43:16Speaker 1: no way in hell that's going to happen. I don't know.
- 43:19Speaker 1: Let's see the opponents I have lined up. I don't
- 43:21Speaker 1: know enough wrestling over the years to know you're getting
- 43:24Speaker 1: to fifty. I don't know you're gonna get. I don't know.
- 43:27Speaker 1: There's they wouldn't drop the ball. That's what we'd like
- 43:29Speaker 1: to call dropping. They wouldn't fumble the bag. A w
- 43:33Speaker 1: is different. I can't fumble the bag. Is there one
- 43:34Speaker 1: storyline that you've like predicted all the way through? I'm sure, okay,
- 43:41Speaker 1: what what? Which? What was that? I don't know. I
- 43:43Speaker 1: just know that i've like, uh picked like full pay
- 43:46Speaker 1: per views many times. Me and my son will like
- 43:50Speaker 1: put our predictions together, and usually I do really well, Okay, well,
- 43:56Speaker 1: you know, you never know. We're different. We're totally different.
- 43:59Speaker 1: It'll be fifty you know. Do you get free Jacksonville
- 44:01Speaker 1: Jaguars tickets if you want to go watch Trevor Lawrence? Yes,
- 44:04Speaker 1: I actually have a picture. Women. Everything super nice. Well,
- 44:07Speaker 1: I keep on saying everybody's nice, but they're nice to me.
- 44:09Speaker 1: It was not nice. Britt Baker's not nice. You guys
- 44:13Speaker 1: got no, I'm kidding. She's cool. It's cool. I'm cool
- 44:17Speaker 1: with everybody. I don't think nobody's ever tried to don't
- 44:20Speaker 1: mention anybody, Okay, but was there anybody who was like
- 44:24Speaker 1: I can you had to have had some haters being
- 44:28Speaker 1: in a position where you are new to the business
- 44:31Speaker 1: and as sending as fast as you have. Were there
- 44:33Speaker 1: people who were dicks? Yeah for sure, Yes, of course.
- 44:37Speaker 1: But I can say, like one person that I did
- 44:40Speaker 1: have these talks with was Britt Baker because she's in
- 44:43Speaker 1: a tough position as well, Like she's not even our champ,
- 44:45Speaker 1: but she's on TV. She's right there with our champ,
- 44:49Speaker 1: like she's on Flyers, she's on this, but she puts
- 44:52Speaker 1: asses in seats. So that's one woman I had a
- 44:56Speaker 1: heart to heart with and we spoke about and like
- 44:58Speaker 1: how do you deal with it? And she gave me
- 45:00Speaker 1: some great advice And now I could care and give
- 45:03Speaker 1: a fuck less about any of that. Like, I'm placing
- 45:06Speaker 1: a position and I have to understand I have to
- 45:10Speaker 1: hold my head high and keep it moving, and I
- 45:13Speaker 1: have to trust in our owner that you know, he
- 45:16Speaker 1: put me in this position for a reason. He shout
- 45:19Speaker 1: out to him smart guy. Hell yeah, people can say
- 45:21Speaker 1: what they want, but he's super smart calculated man. I swear.
- 45:26Speaker 1: I mean the stuff that Aw's pulled off in such
- 45:28Speaker 1: a short amount of time is like amazing, And uh,
- 45:31Speaker 1: for you being kind of the face of the female division,
- 45:37Speaker 1: is that something that do you feel like you've kind
- 45:40Speaker 1: of carry that burden with you, like you know when
- 45:42Speaker 1: you're because you're kind of I mean, you're the biggest
- 45:44Speaker 1: superstar in the in the you're the champ, you know
- 45:47Speaker 1: how the ship moving right now? Right? Like do you
- 45:49Speaker 1: feel that shit? Like do you feel the pride of
- 45:51Speaker 1: like aw on your shoulders because there is a big
- 45:54Speaker 1: the biggest company that you guys go against you. I do.
- 45:57Speaker 1: I do, and I respect it And that's why I
- 45:59Speaker 1: put in the world and I don't take this for
- 46:01Speaker 1: granted to because to even hold a belt, it's a privilege.
- 46:03Speaker 1: So I don't just going there and like lollygag and
- 46:05Speaker 1: laugh about it, like I am representing my company every time.
- 46:09Speaker 1: If I say when I'm carrying my belt, I always
- 46:11Speaker 1: mentioned a W I always mention our owner. Our owner
- 46:14Speaker 1: is a hard working lawyer owner. He just want to
- 46:17Speaker 1: the South Division with the Jacksonville Jaguars is a soccer owner, Like, huh,
- 46:23Speaker 1: I bet they they make a lot of money. I
- 46:27Speaker 1: bet the Jaguars win the division before and it's it's
- 46:30Speaker 1: just wild. He literally was just at the show on
- 46:32Speaker 1: Friday and then within forty eight hours was at the
- 46:35Speaker 1: football game. So I mean, like, he's a hard working man.
- 46:38Speaker 1: So I'm not going to disappoint someone who's literally in
- 46:41Speaker 1: and out of air not even private airports, every single day.
- 46:46Speaker 1: At No, he's not. He's rich as hell, he's a billionaire.
- 46:49Speaker 1: Why would he be I wouldn't either, No, not yet, No,
- 46:53Speaker 1: not yet. But you know it's a burden, But I
- 46:57Speaker 1: wouldn't even say it in a negative way, like I'm
- 46:59Speaker 1: back and I'm gonna do nothing but get better. And
- 47:02Speaker 1: he knows that. And him working with athletes, he can
- 47:05Speaker 1: tell and calculate who's gonna be good at who's not.
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- 49:04Speaker 1: You said you want to be the female rock. Yes,
- 49:06Speaker 1: the rock is a very successful everything. Yes, he's got
- 49:10Speaker 1: very successful everything. He's got some energy drinks. He's got
- 49:13Speaker 1: a tequila, a tequila that only theo's good. The blanco's
- 49:18Speaker 1: got awful. What's it called. It's like it's like drinking firewater.
- 49:24Speaker 1: Oh my god. But that being said, what are are
- 49:28Speaker 1: you have any business ventures that you I mean, you
- 49:30Speaker 1: already obviously have some. You have a softball team, But
- 49:33Speaker 1: are there things you aspire to get involved with as
- 49:36Speaker 1: you as your profile grows? And movies? But I think
- 49:39Speaker 1: that's something that all wrestlers want to do, is get
- 49:41Speaker 1: involved in movies because we're acting. We're acting, we're improving,
- 49:45Speaker 1: like if something goes wrong, you just have to go
- 49:47Speaker 1: with the flow. Like we're doing so many different things
- 49:49Speaker 1: right now. But comedy. I want to get into comedy more.
- 49:53Speaker 1: I'm a funny girl and I want to get into acting.
- 49:56Speaker 1: I want to get into action movies very much. So
- 49:59Speaker 1: I have the love, I have the walk. I want
- 50:01Speaker 1: to get into modeling. I know I can do that too,
- 50:03Speaker 1: and prior I was doing modeling. So I just want
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- 50:11Speaker 1: I just want to do it at the right time.
- 50:12Speaker 1: What's your favorite comedy movies? Give me three your top three.
- 50:16Speaker 1: Step Brothers is one. I think that's like my favorite one.
- 50:19Speaker 1: Other than that, I mean, everything else is kind of
- 50:20Speaker 1: step Brothers is one of the one that's number one,
- 50:23Speaker 1: that's the funny Friday, and then okay, well, technically what
- 50:27Speaker 1: you're saying, I mean Friday is a comedy. Technically my
- 50:30Speaker 1: favorite movie ever is The Big Lebowski, which is behind you, okay,
- 50:34Speaker 1: and that is a that's a comedy. Okay, Well, but
- 50:37Speaker 1: I would say step Brothers is three. Three. So what's
- 50:40Speaker 1: your second big Lebowski, Friday, and then Step Okay, Friday's funny.
- 50:44Speaker 1: All right, I'll put up there. I never thought about
- 50:46Speaker 1: my favorite comedy movies. I've thought more so about my
- 50:49Speaker 1: favorite movies, like I love Titanic. Titanic, don't judge me.
- 50:52Speaker 1: That's pretty tipical. Don't judge me. Don't it's not typical.
- 50:55Speaker 1: That is not And I'm like, okay, well my second
- 50:57Speaker 1: one is New Jack City. Oh great movie. Yes, I
- 51:00Speaker 1: thought you were going to say the Notebook no, and
- 51:01Speaker 1: you were going to really just dig into the typical.
- 51:04Speaker 1: I love the Titanic. In the Notebook no, I love
- 51:07Speaker 1: I love because it's the only movie that has ever
- 51:08Speaker 1: gotten me to cry. I don't know why. Every time
- 51:11Speaker 1: Ryan King didn't make you cry, No, it did not.
- 51:13Speaker 1: I was fucking crying. I was crying on Titanic. You
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- 51:26Speaker 1: honest with you, though I'm an atheist, I'm not very religious,
- 51:29Speaker 1: but for some reason, when I was like a kid,
- 51:31Speaker 1: I just felt Jesus dying and I was like, this
- 51:34Speaker 1: is fucked. I cried, I can see. Okay, I forgot
- 51:37Speaker 1: all about that movie. Well because of the anti semi
- 51:40Speaker 1: made it shout out, yeah, dang, I forgot all about
- 51:43Speaker 1: that movie. Okay, all right. Well another one is Hunger Games. Okay,
- 51:48Speaker 1: made me cry. The first one, Yeah, that made me cry.
- 51:50Speaker 1: When Rue died made me cry. Okay, but what about
- 51:53Speaker 1: you favorite TV shows? What do you watch on TV?
- 51:55Speaker 1: Family guy? I'm a big family guy. I was watching
- 52:00Speaker 1: it's a show on Netflix, Alice in Wonder was it
- 52:04Speaker 1: Alice in Borderland? But I'm not. I watched the ending
- 52:07Speaker 1: of it. Don't watch it. Watch the first one, don't
- 52:09Speaker 1: watch the second one. Just family guy. I don't really
- 52:12Speaker 1: watch TV like that. I watched wrestling. I've been watching wrestling.
- 52:15Speaker 1: Do you watch the competition? I do? Just to get notes.
- 52:19Speaker 1: I didn't. Why wouldn't you. It'd be like people who
- 52:21Speaker 1: I have peacock watch if you if you watch sports,
- 52:24Speaker 1: you're gonna watch the other guys, you know. But I
- 52:27Speaker 1: have friends over there too, so I watch just to
- 52:29Speaker 1: see like what's going on with them and and you know,
- 52:31Speaker 1: like what they're doing and we can have conversations. You
- 52:34Speaker 1: should consume all things that will make you better at
- 52:36Speaker 1: your job. Yep, for sure. And I want to make
- 52:39Speaker 1: sure we're not stepping on each other's toes, Like I'm
- 52:40Speaker 1: not trying to say something that someone else just said.
- 52:43Speaker 1: I'm not trying to wear something that they're wearing. So
- 52:45Speaker 1: I stay on my toes and I trying to make
- 52:46Speaker 1: sure I'm being respectful in the entire scheme of things. Well,
- 52:50Speaker 1: I think you have to go watch the Shooty Clippers.
- 52:53Speaker 1: With that being said, Oh my god, Oh my god.
- 52:57Speaker 1: I hope, I hope you hear this. Clippers all right,
- 53:00Speaker 1: they're going to lose, all right? Why is it injured?
- 53:05Speaker 1: Spoiler alertka, why is it not playing tonight? I don't
- 53:07Speaker 1: even know if that's true. Paul George doing, I don't know.
- 53:10Speaker 1: He's a he's a great player, but he's always injured too.
- 53:12Speaker 1: Shouts to Palmdale. When's the next pay per view? March?
- 53:16Speaker 1: I can't remember, but it's March. Okay, you'll be wrestling there? Yeah,
- 53:19Speaker 1: of course I am. When is the next time you're wrestling?
- 53:21Speaker 1: For forty nine? And I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
- 53:24Speaker 1: Usually we get to work and if it's not advertised,
- 53:26Speaker 1: it's like, oh, you have a match and it's like
- 53:28Speaker 1: one time I had a match and literally had thirty minutes,
- 53:30Speaker 1: well forty five minutes to prepare for it. Well, you'll
- 53:32Speaker 1: be fifty and oh by March for sure. And I
- 53:35Speaker 1: loved it, of course, of course, of course, of course.
- 53:38Speaker 1: And where do you like? Last question before you go?
- 53:40Speaker 1: Where's the belt? Now? Like what do you do with
- 53:42Speaker 1: the belt? You leave it in the hotel? No, actually
- 53:44Speaker 1: I left it. I left it in last week because
- 53:46Speaker 1: I didn't want to carry it. It's heavy. It's heavy.
- 53:48Speaker 1: And then at that, like the real you have the
- 53:52Speaker 1: I have two of the like four fifty dollars. It's
- 53:56Speaker 1: too much. It's like every time I've missed three flights
- 53:59Speaker 1: because they want to look at it, so they'll pull
- 54:01Speaker 1: it out and like I don't like the attention to
- 54:03Speaker 1: everybody like looking at it, and then everybody's like surrounding,
- 54:05Speaker 1: like oh what do you do? And that starts intil
- 54:07Speaker 1: like a five minute conversation on this three flights because
- 54:10Speaker 1: of it, because they have to screen it every freaking
- 54:12Speaker 1: time and pull it out and I'm just I'm I'm
- 54:15Speaker 1: just gonna leave it. So thanks for coming, no problem, Jade,
- 54:18Speaker 1: appreciate you pulling up go watch your on AW Wednesday's
- 54:23Speaker 1: nights at ATBs Champ tn T Friday at ten. Yeah, there,
- 54:27Speaker 1: It is appreciate you pulling up, no problem having Mel