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The GIANTS fire Brian Daboll! · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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league we're going to be. Looking at Aaron judging saying
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that he can't. Win the big game, Michael
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Jordan. Said I played 82 games.
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You don't see LeBron. Doing that a game.
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Where you. Got to go before I told you,
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Giant fans. And Saquon.
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Barkley. This.
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As always, Mr. Board OPS man, it's been a crazy, crazy week
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and weekend for me. I, I would say it was probably
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very unlucky and I, I don't know what luck is and I don't believe
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in luck, but if there's anything that we can commit to, it's if
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there is luck. I am probably the most unlucky
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person, so I don't want to get into it.
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But anybody that's listening that knows me and knows what
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happened over the last, I don't know, 124 hours, I would say 200
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hours if I could, but it hasn't been good.
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And yeah, so I was trying to enjoy the weekend.
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I got a chance to watch The Jets absolutely up and win a game.
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But I'm not going to hate because Aaron Glenn has proven
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himself once again to be a competent coach because now the
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players are actually playing for him.
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So maybe the bad seeds in the locker room, the Quinton
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Williams or I don't know, Saws Garner who didn't really look
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good in his first game as an Indianapolis Colt.
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Maybe they were the reason why this team were not playing at
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the top level that we thought they were going to be.
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ESP NS Adam Schefner reports that the New York Giants have
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fired head coach Brian Dabel after 3 1/2 seasons with the
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team. This came after the Giants blue
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another double digit lead with under 4 minutes to go against
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the Bears on Sunday, the 4th double digit lead they have
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blown this season, all on the road.
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After winning nine games and making the playoffs in Gables
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first season in 2022, the Giants have only won 11 games since,
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second worst in the NFL behind only the Titans.
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The Giants went two and eight under Gable this season and he
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finished 20 and 40 and one as the Giants head coach.
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His 336 win percentage is bad enough for 18th worst all time
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for coaches who coach 50 games or more. 4 spots worse than Jets
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legend AK Bambi Sala at 22. Reports say that Jackson Dart
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being given designed runs and Dart getting concussed in the
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game was the last straw for Giant owner John Mayra.
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But many off the field incidents added up over the years with
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Dabel. From the lack of player
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development to his feud with former defensive coordinator
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Wick Martindale to this year being fined for going into the
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blue medical tent, which is against the rules to try to get
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Dart back on the Joe Shane keeps his job as the GM for now and
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offensive coordinator Mike Kafka will take over as interim head
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coach. Now Mike Kafka has been wanting
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this opportunity for the last three seasons.
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I mean three seasons because he he interviewed for the job.
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He wanted the job, but the Giants decided to go with Dabel
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with his his success under the the Buffalo Bills.
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And he might go, he might go back to the Buffalo Bills after
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this season because Buffalo has Brady and he will be up for a
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coaching job possibly. We'll see how this offense ends
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at the end of the season. But I do believe Brian Gables, a
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great offensive coordinator, there's no question, Very cocky,
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very confident guy. Don't know him personally, never
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met him. I know Fitch met him.
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I know Nathan has met him. I know a lot of people have met
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this guy. Lost a lot of weight, loves
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wearing his Nike Jordan sneakers on the sidelines and looking
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pretty now for his lady. The New York Giants have not
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played good football and I wouldn't blame just his
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coaching, lack of really talent around them.
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And you look at, I blame Joe Shane on that.
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You have Darry Slayton, who's your number one guy.
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It seems like Robinson looks like he's a player, but he's too
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small to be a number one. I don't know if he's a bona fide
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#2 he's a slot guy. So with the lack of offensive
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weapons that they have had over the last couple of years and
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deciding to part ways with Saquon, Saquon Barkley and then
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Cam Scataboo looking like he was, I don't know, a Battingham
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Ram who looked like he was going to be a player and then goes
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down the way he did early this season, you wonder where are the
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Giants when it comes to their future?
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You look at this offensive line, there's a lot of questions to
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it. Is Thomas going to be there for
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the long haul? The guy can't stay healthy.
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And then you'll look at some of the other guys on this line that
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we've we've spoken about. I mean, Neil, Evan Neil, who's a
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first round talent in the top 10 is no longer in the starting
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lineup. We don't even know if he's a
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part of this roster anymore. You have Thibodeau, who was a
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first round talent, top ten pick in the same draft.
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Is he really going to make this team in this roster next year?
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Do they give him an extension? And the answer would probably be
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no. You look at the offensive
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weapons that they have provided under Gable.
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I mean, it's very scarce, or as anybody would say in different
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parts of the country, scarce. There is nothing that sticks out
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to me with the accomplishment except the first year of the
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head coach that Gable was the guy.
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Now, there are a few guys that I can tell you would be a slam
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dunk for the New York Giants. Slam dunk.
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And one of them used to coach the Dallas Cowboys and the Green
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Bay Packers. And if I were the Giants, I'd be
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making a call to him right now. But I'll get into that in just a
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few moments. The fact here is this is an
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organization that has been known to win.
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They have won four Super Bowls and remember their
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accomplishments with under two of the greatest coaches of all
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times, Bill Parcells and Tom Coughlin.
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These guys were successful because of the way they coached,
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the way they pushed their players.
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They stood by their beliefs. Gable tried to follow that
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belief and the players were not following him.
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I don't believe the coaches trusted him and I don't think
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the players trusted him. After the first season of Giants
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football with him under the helm, you look at the coaching
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staff, Wink Martindale. Wink Martindale couldn't stand
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him and this is a guy that was good friends with Dabel and
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that's why Wink was hired by Dabel to be his defensive
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coordinator because they were so close and so tight.
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Their families were so tight and Wink wanted to get far, far away
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from Dabel. After what, 1 1/2 seasons?
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Kafka. There's been back and forth
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banter that him and Mike Kafka didn't like each other and the
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only reason why Kafka has a job is because John Mayra likes Mike
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Kafka and that's why he kept his job because I believe Gable
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wanted to get rid of him in the offseason this past year.
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I don't know what is there to look forward to with this team
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in this roster. Now.
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Dexter Lawrence might not be 100% healthy.
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He got paid a lot of money about a year and a half ago.
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I still think Dexter Lawrence has a lot left in him.
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I think they're they're young first round rookie from Penn
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State. Looks like he's special.
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There's no question that he is. But I question their secondary.
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I question their offense stability.
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They have no offensive line to really look forward to next
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year. And Jackson Dart, who I think
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could be the future of this organization, only time will
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tell, is been running for his dear life.
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Why? Because Gable has thrown him out
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there to really be killed. There is nobody protecting this
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kid. He's running right, he's running
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left, he's scrambling, trying to figure out who he's going to
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throw to. Nobody is open.
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And then he's running up the gut, running to the side,
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getting killed, getting smacked by defensive lineman over £350.
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Eventually this kids going to go down.
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He's not going to get back up. And Eli made an interesting
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statement recently on his, what do they call it, the Manning
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cast. He said something about Jackson
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Dart because he likes Jackson Dart played in the same school
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as him in college. So he an Ole Miss.
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He he he roots him on and he, he believed in Jackson Dart when
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the Giants drafted him. He said that if Gable doesn't
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clean up his offensive stability at the helm, this kids going to
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be dead by the by year 2. And now he's getting fired.
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I I wonder if you're a giant fan, what is the future of this
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team if it isn't Jackson dart? I mean, seriously, think about
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it. If you look at this roster right
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now and Abdul Carter special, he is and and I think Dexter
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Lawrence has a lot left in him. I don't, I don't care what he
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and Burns, he's expected, but he's had a great season.
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He's going to be an all pro player.
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But how many years does Burns have?
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He's 27. I think he's 27 years old.
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How many years does this guy have it at the top of his game?
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Maybe 2. Because linebackers usually
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start to, you know, lose their, their athletic ability at the
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age of 2930. They're not the same.
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They're they're not as fast, they're not as athletic after
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the age of 29. So how many years does Burns
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have left as a an elite player? So you're, you're going to
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depend on two players that you have maybe 3 and, and you hope
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scatter boot comes back and he's he's a good #2 maybe a number
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one in the future. There is nothing Thomas, you
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can't, you can't, you can't believe he's going to stay
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healthy. I mean, the guy hasn't stayed
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healthy since he's come into the league.
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So where do they go and what do they do?
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And my answer to that is very simple.
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You have to bring in a veteran coach that you're going to be
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able to build offensively with. With Jackson Dark.
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You need a good, offensively minded, offensive minded coach
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that has been in the NFC, has been successful in the NFC for a
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significant amount of time, even a Super Bowl championship
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speaking. You know what I'm speaking
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about? McCarthy.
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That's right, Mike McCarthy is the guy.
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If you're a giant fan, Mike McCarthy is a slam dunk.
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You cannot look and bring in a rookie coach.
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Once again. The Jets have done it for years,
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the Browns have done it for years, and these teams are
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unsuccessful. Miami has done it for years.
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The Giants, with their success, they have done well when
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bringing in veteran guys, guys that have been successful in
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their division or their conference.
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And I believe Mike McCarthy is an absolute slam dunk guy and
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also a guy that understands how to play in the NFC East.
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Why? Because he was successful in the
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NFC East with the Dallas Cowboys.
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Think about it, the Cowboys success when he was there, I
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think it was five seasons with 10 or more wins.
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Think about that. The Giants haven't won 50 games
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in, I don't know, 7-8 years. This guy's won 50 games in five
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years, maybe even less. You need a guy that's going to
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help this kid develop and I believe the way he can run his
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offense and you need to figure out what his strengths are in
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the pocket and how you can keep him safe in the pocket instead
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of running out of it. So he gets killed and and to me,
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the West Coast offense is to me the most important when it comes
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to Jackson darts success for his future.
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Think about it. Aaron Rodgers played in Mike
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McCarthy's offense. Now when Aaron Rodgers came into
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the league, he was a mobile quarterback.
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Any control he was, he was a great thrower, obviously great
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arm, but he was one of the best at figuring out when to run,
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move inside and out of the pocket, step into the pocket or
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even reverse. Do the things that you want your
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quarter ball quarterback to do with mobility.
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Jackson darts obviously a lot more athletic, lot more
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mobility. I, and I'm not saying that he
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has Aaron Rodgers, his arm strength, but what I can tell
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you is his ability to figure out and hold on to the ball as long
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as he does in the pocket and make plays the way he does is a
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perfect fit in the West Coast offense.
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It's perfect. And again, the what Mike
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McCarthy does so very well is make sure that it keeps his
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quarterback out of harm's way. Say whatever you want about Dak
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Prescott, Dak Prescott, besides the injury, the, the bad injury
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he had and, and again, Dak Prescott decided to move outside
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of the pocket when his leg got bent, you know, bent back the
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way it did. That wasn't Mike McCarthy's
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offense. That was Dak Prescott deciding
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to move outside of the pocket when he should have stayed in
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the pocket. Mike McCarthy is the perfect fit
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for the New York Giants. He is the perfect John Mara.
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I'm giving you a tip, John. If you're listening to the show
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right now, which you probably not, you should be reaching out
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to the agent of Mike McCarthy right now as we speak because to
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me, there is nobody else out there that I would pick to be my
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next head coach. Nobody.
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You need to bring in a veteran. There is no way this team's
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success is going to come back the way it did with Tom Coughlin
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and Bill Parcells. Look at the guys that have
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they've been successful over the last 30 years.
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Bill Parcells, a guy that wasn't a rookie head coach that
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understands how he wants to run his his offense in his defense.
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Then you had obviously now I know a lot of people are going
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to start to bring out Bill Belichick.
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I know Bill Belichick's name is going to be brought up probably
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in the next couple of weeks. Why?
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Because he's not doing so well in North Carolina.
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And this guy's been successful over there with New England and
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he's he loves the Giants organization.
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As he's come out and said it, one of his long lasting dreams
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was to coach the New York Giants.
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So maybe you'll hear Bill Belichick's name being brought
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up. To me, the guy is Mike McCarthy.
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And I think that if you're a Giant fan and you're sitting
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here right now and you're wondering what makes more sense
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going into the offseason, because the Giants are not going
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to have as much money as they would have had if they decided
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this offseason not to spend as much as they did.
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Now. Again, the Giants are going to
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have to figure out if neighbors just going to be healthy next
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year because neighbors might not be back until mid season.
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That's the that's the interesting thing.
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When is neighbors going to come back?
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Is he going to start the season on the IL or what?
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And that's probably what's going to happen because he I think he
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tore his, it tore his ACL, right Speedy.
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So he's going to be out until mid season.
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So what do you have to do in the offseason to bring in another
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guy, a number one guy? You're going to have to decide
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what you're doing. Robinson.
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Maybe you don't bring Robinson back and then you go after two.
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If the Giants believe there are two guys out there that they can
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add in the offseason where there are he's affordable or they're
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affordable. That's where the Giants and but
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they don't do anything until they find out and figure out who
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their next head coach is. And I'm going to tell you this
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right now, Joe Shane better not go to the Buffalo Bills and pick
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his next coach. He better not do that.
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He better not go to and bring Brady in or any of those guys.
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He needs to bring in a veteran guy.
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That makes a lot of sense for this team in this roster because
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there's a lot of questions on what they need to do to fix up
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the offensive part of their game.
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They have no offensive on. They got one guy, Schmitz.
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He's not the guy. He is not the future center of
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this team. Maybe you move from the guard.
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Neil is going to be gone. This this offensive line, which
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is a bunch of has beens guys that you don't want to be a part
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of your roster. They need to move on from.
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There's a lot of cleanup at Runyon.
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Yes, they brought in Runyon last year as well.
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I'm I'm reading what Fish said. I don't know if Runyon's that
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good, and I think the Giants overspent for him.
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Runyon did come from the Green Bay Packers, so maybe he knows
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that kind of offense. I I'm sure he understands how to
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run the West Coast offense. But I think that the Giants, if
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there's only one guy for this job, there's nobody else.
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And I don't want to hear about a college coach.
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I don't want to hear about one of these up and coming like
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Kingsbury or whatever his name is.
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Kingsbury. All these guys that I'm hearing
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names that the Giants are bringing up or some of the
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different writers that I've read over the last, I don't know, 10
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hours of guys that could be interested in this job.
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You bring in a veteran guy that knows how to win in the NFC,
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yeah, it's shifted back. Kind of when you look at the
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coaching trends of kind of 2018 to now, and I think that Jim
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Harbaugh and Sean Payton, the last two off seasons, those
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kinds of trends grown with a rookie quarterback are helping
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out a young quarterback like Herbert, rookie quarterback like
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Knicks with Sean Payton kind of shifted back to change.
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Those two teams are 8 and two and seven and three right now.
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And it's shifted away from the guys that are these young
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hotshot candidates that kind of fall off the Knicks each year.
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When you look at somebody like Bobby Slope with the Texans,
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everybody thought, oh, is he going to get another head
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coaching job because of the transformation Houston had with
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CJ Stroud? Then he gets fired the next
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year. That kind of trend does not help
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A-Team like the Giants, whose rosters are pretty far behind.
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You can get away with it if you're a team like the Seahawks.
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The Seahawks hired A inexperienced head coach, a guy
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that was barely a defensive coordinator in the NFL.
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He was a college defensive coordinator.
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Why? Because they have enough talent
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on their roster. The Giants are nowhere close to
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that right now. So they need somebody that could
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just be a quarterback developer for the until the rest of the
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team is able to catch up both injury wise because.
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I don't know if they need a quarterback developer.
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I I think they need a coach. They need a guy that knows
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offenses in the NFL and he understands how to run a
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successful offense. Say whatever you want about Dak
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Prescott. Look at his numbers when Mike
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McCarthy went there. Yeah, Mike, that's the perfect
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example of that because I think Dak was somebody who was kind of
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a middle tier quarterback until McCarthy got there.
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Then he had three top five quarterback seasons in that
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span. You were you were making the
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case from from MVPA few years ago.
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I remember in 2023 and they had DVOAY some of the best offenses
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we've seen in that stretch of time with with the Cowboys, even
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though again, they had didn't have a lot of talent on their
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roster. They had CD Lamb.
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They had a couple good years with Zeke, but like it wasn't
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like, all right, this is this is the Bengals offense that has all
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this receiving talent galore. It's a a different case with the
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Giants. When I think when you look at I,
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again, I compare it to the Broncos because the Broncos had
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very low expectations last year with again a couple young
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offensive players. Bow Nicks, that was still kind
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of a question mark and Dart, I think it away, is still kind of
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a question mark too, with some of his miscues on short throws,
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some of his strange. He's a rookie speed.
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And I think, but also all the strange decisions to run and not
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slide and that's. Coaching.
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And that's why I think you need somebody that is a stabilizer of
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that, regardless if they're going to win games right away.
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You can't just hope for the team like the Giants that lacks
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talent to be a quick fix right away.
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It's not going to be the 49ers going over there with Kyle
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Shanahan. And I think that's why a lot of
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these teams have been and miscue.
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I think that kind of trend like, oh, the 49ers in 2019 go from
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three wins to a Super Bowl. That's not going to happen
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overnight across the league. So the Giants, I agree with.
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You have to find. Stop finding those coaches from
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the Bills, the Chiefs, these other teams, just because they
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developed elite quarterbacks that play well without great
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coaching. Yeah, I think too, like, you
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know, we've always talked about it that there's, you know,
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always the fall guy, but I don't necessarily think it was a fall
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guy. I think like what you're talking
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about Errol too, like you have to bring a personality into with
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with what they've constructed, you know, this roster around
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right, like they have to have somebody that understands it
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brings in a mentality too, but also kind of understands that,
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you know, that younger generator and look, you know what he did
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with with deck and in his young years and the good years of Zeke
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before Zeke ate Zeke and when he could actually wear the belly
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shirts and then the belly shirt just ate itself at that point.
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So I think that's. It's a great, I mean, it's a
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great comparison to bring him in.
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It's always interesting like when I look at, you know, guys
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getting fired and, and kind of the trajectory that they thought
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they were going to go and. Do you?
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Do you? Fire just the coach or do you
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fire like the conglomerate as a whole?
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And would he have been fired if the injuries wouldn't have
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happened in the way that they they would?
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Have a. 100%, absolutely. There's no way he keeps his job.
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The only way he keeps his job is is if the Giants almost sneak
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into the playoffs or get into the playoffs.
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That's the only way he was keeping his job.
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There's just so many back end stuff that has gone on with this
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team, with the players and with the coaching staff.
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Think about it. How many coaches were he was he
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fighting with? How many coaches has he let go
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over the last two seasons because he couldn't get along
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with them and he chose those coaches to be on his coaching
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staff. So think about it.
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If he's not getting along with his own friends, he's not
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getting along with the right people and the players on his
25:03
roster either. Java, you also bring up a good
25:05
point too, like I think you need AGM that has enough trust to be
25:08
able to rebuild this team. In his old image.
25:10
I'll bring up two examples of that, one of which is the
25:12
Seahawks. I think John Schneider has been
25:14
there for a while, has a good GM and still drafted really well
25:18
amidst Pete Carroll kind of losing his touch as the as a
25:21
coach towards the end of his tenure with Seattle there and
25:23
Phyllis really drafted well after that.
25:25
They drafted unconventionally for a while.
25:26
Then they bring in all these great offensive lineman they
25:28
just drafted in Jigba and all these other guys and really
25:31
built the team a different mold. And the and the other one is the
25:33
Bears. Recently the bears were
25:34
struggling to find a head coach, but they they have AGM and Ryan
25:37
Polls has found some really good talent on that team.
25:39
And now they finally have a coach not like ever flues and
25:41
Ben Johnson that's not wasting talent.
25:43
And now they look like a playoff team right now.
25:46
So you know. Some guys as coaches just aren't
25:52
great head coaches and they don't.
25:54
They don't realize it until they have a chance.
25:56
And I think we saw tables just not going to be a head coach in
26:00
this league ever again. He's probably going to be a good
26:02
offensive coordinator again at some point soon.
26:05
Maybe not next year, but probably soon.
26:08
He knows football. He gets guys open.
26:10
That's all you can ask of an offensive coordinator, except
26:13
you need to ask a lot more of a head coach.
26:15
And you can tell the culture things.
26:17
You know, he wasn't a culture creator.
26:20
He might be a guy who can exist in a culture and be good for a
26:23
culture. And I think he's proven that
26:25
over his career with Belichick, with the Bills, that he is that
26:28
guy. But when it was up to him to run
26:31
the culture and to be that guy who needs to be even keeled on
26:34
the sidelines, he never was. And look, my first year
26:39
coaching, just high school kids, you don't know what you're
26:41
doing. So what do you how do you react?
26:43
Most people yell a lot. They blow a lot of whistles for
26:46
up downs. And, you know, you kind of fake
26:48
it till you make it. And every year I coached, I
26:52
yelled less and less and blew the whistle to the point where I
26:55
don't even have a whistle. I don't think I've used the
26:57
whistle in like 5 years coaching football.
26:59
I don't need it. I'm so confident with what I'm
27:01
doing. And you could tell that, you
27:03
know, you were hoping and I think Mara hoped that Dabel
27:06
would kind of evolve over time. So they kept giving him chance
27:10
over chance to kind of become that guy who can be composed on
27:14
the sideline. And it was even worse this year
27:16
than it was in the past. You know, he just couldn't
27:19
compose himself. And I mean, and then you blow
27:23
four games that you should have won by, I mean, Speedy, you got
27:27
the advance stats on the win probability of those four games
27:30
on the road that they should have won those games like 90% of
27:33
the time for all four of them. And.
27:36
Also fish like I think Dabol is first year and even 2023 even
27:40
though they weren't a great team.
27:41
He's still coaching aggressively too.
27:43
We've seen him coach very stale at times, which never was like
27:47
him. There's a 2022 a lot of the
27:49
reasons why the Giants won so many close games is is he was
27:52
aggressive, yet you're kicking a field goal on like the three
27:54
yard line when you again, you could ice the game with a
27:56
touchdown or you put the Bears really far back.
27:59
As some of our commenters have mentioned, like the Giants were
28:02
able to rush the pastor most of that game and get pressure on
28:05
Caleb Williams. I just couldn't bring him down.
28:06
But maybe in the back of the end zone you can force him to make a
28:08
mistake. Stuff like that too.
28:09
And same kind of thing with the Broncos game, like Errol was
28:11
saying, if they stopped running the ball once Scanabo got hurt.
28:14
And again, it just doesn't help and he's trying to kind of out
28:17
coach himself in a way. And, and eventually it just
28:20
caught up to them in a lot of senses where I think when you
28:23
have a bad team, sometimes you have to coach creatively to do
28:25
it. As soon as you heard Carl Banks
28:29
and and Dexter Lawrence go back at it with each other, you knew
28:32
it was over for Devo. You knew it.
28:35
I'm telling you, any fan that watches the New York Giants and
28:39
something happens in the locker room and the Giants are not The
28:43
Jets. I will say that I'm a Jets fan.
28:45
The Giants are on a team. Besides Odell Beckham and his
28:48
craziness when he was there with the organization.
28:51
The Giants are an organization that keeps it within.
28:54
They don't really go out there. They don't really shed out their
28:57
information to the the media and to the fans.
29:01
The Jets are very known to do that.
29:03
That's because of Woody Johnson and ownership over there.
29:06
When you heard Dexter Lawrence and call banks go at it with one
29:10
another. It was all over the tabloids
29:13
and, and how many people were riding it and, and, and throwing
29:17
call banks under the bus. And then Dexter Lawrence, maybe
29:19
he's not the real deal and maybe he's overpaid.
29:21
As soon as you heard that and all Dabo needed to do is stop
29:25
it, you know, pretty much go into that locker room or pull,
29:28
pull to the, you know, pull, call Banks, 'cause he's always
29:31
at the practices, pull him to the side and say, listen, Carl,
29:33
let's, let's settle this between you and Jackson and let's, let's
29:36
quit this. Let's, let's not keep talking
29:38
about this anymore. And, and it kept getting worse
29:41
and worse. And Dexter Lawrence was on
29:43
social media and then Carl Banks kind of tried to cool it down
29:47
and sees that that that argumental thought on who is
29:52
what and what is what with Dexter Lawrence this year.
29:55
As soon as you knew that was going on, it was over.
29:58
Abel was done. And I knew that it, this was, it
30:01
was a matter of time. As a matter of fact, Tommy
30:04
scoops came up to me and I think it was last week, right, Tommy?
30:07
Was it last week when you said that if the if the Giants lose,
30:12
it was the Eagles? Yeah, if he said that if the
30:15
Giants lost against the Eagles, I wouldn't be surprised if Dabel
30:19
loses his job after the game. That's what he said to me.
30:21
And I said I think it'll be one or two games after.
30:24
And then what happened one game after he's fired.
30:28
So I think John Mara was just waiting for the right time.
30:31
And then after this loss after in 4 minutes you up double
30:35
digits and you lose a game against the Chicago Bears.
30:39
Chicago Bears, they're a good team, but to lose like that
30:43
against a young quarterback in a in a first year coach when you
30:48
pretty much were thinking that you know what out of them for
30:52
3/4 and then and lose a game like that the way you did, I
30:57
mean, absolutely it to me is an absolute dismissal to the head
31:02
coach after the game. I don't know what's worse
31:04
though. Errol, the loss, which he's done
31:06
three other times this season in almost the same fashion, or
31:11
which I think I've got him fired.
31:12
And I was listening to a couple of the Giants beat writers talk
31:15
about it today when I got home. The fact that they were
31:18
constantly doing these designed runs, not like scramble plays,
31:22
but designed runs like off tackle runs with Jackson Dart,
31:27
like knowing he's going to take hits on these plays.
31:30
What are we doing? Like, well, you're, you're proud
31:33
that Jackson darts a tough guy. That's great.
31:35
He's the future of the franchise that you're not going anywhere
31:38
this season. Maybe don't call Tim Tebow plays
31:41
for him. Didn't we?
31:42
What are we doing? Didn't we talk about?
31:44
That I brought it up a week ago or two weeks ago and I was just
31:47
like why is he doing this at the end of the game like you're down
31:51
21 points running quarterback counter Trey to hope he doesn't
31:55
get hit. He like you think your play
31:57
calls that great. I called the same thing in high
31:59
school football. I know what happens on the play,
32:01
everyone. That's one of the oldest plays
32:03
in the book. It's from the 80s.
32:04
Everybody knows it's a good play.
32:07
But why do that when the game is over with your prized asset?
32:12
And I think that was the last straw.
32:14
But you know, yeah, go ahead. Real quick.
32:17
I'm going to join in real quick on that.
32:19
I can't put myself on the camera for some reason.
32:21
But for like you saying though, with Jayden Daniels, that was
32:25
exactly the same reason why I don't know why anybody had
32:28
Jayden Daniels in the game. And look at what happened.
32:31
He had a dislocated arm. He effed up his arm so bad to
32:34
the point that a lot of us viewers were looking at it.
32:36
Jackson direction has still been in the game.
32:38
Like that's, that's, that's that's exactly what we're
32:40
saying. Jackson not not still been in
32:41
the game, but Jackson direction has still had those designed
32:44
runs for him. If I'm being honest, if I'm the
32:47
Giants, I would sit dark for the rest of the year.
32:49
There's not going anywhere for the rest of this year.
32:51
Caleb, I'm sorry, not Caleb Williams, Jameis Winston or
32:54
Russell Wilson will be a much better fit for the rest of these
32:57
guys who you have thrown the ball to Wanda Robinson or
33:00
whatever guys come off the bench or whatnot.
33:02
Dart shouldn't play another game for the rest of the year.
33:05
That's my personal going into this the next.
33:07
Here's the thing, you're a rookie quarterback.
33:10
You want to play. That's what your your, your goal
33:13
your whole career was to go and play NFL football.
33:16
You're not going to say, hey, you know what, I'm not going to
33:18
play for the rest of the season because I don't want to hurt
33:20
myself. Jackson Dart is a competitor.
33:23
And if you're a competitor, you're going to want to go out
33:25
there. John Jabba, you know this,
33:26
you're a, you're a professional athlete.
33:28
You got a chance to prove yourself.
33:30
Now with Mike Kafka, this is even more to show everybody that
33:34
you're the future quarterback of this organization to go out
33:37
there and put up numbers and play as hard as he does.
33:40
This could this could give Mike Kafka an opportunity to maybe
33:43
interview for the job. So why would they sit out their
33:47
young quarterback when he has a chance to flourish?
33:50
I think it's a bad move for the New York Giants if they sit him
33:53
out. I could see it both ways.
33:56
I understand where Scoops is coming from because you want
33:59
that to be the franchise and that's kind of what they've
34:01
said. But on the other hand, it's like
34:04
we don't want to sit because then it first of all, it makes
34:06
us look soft to our teammates. If, if nothing's wrong, because
34:09
who knows what's being said in the clubhouse.
34:11
And hey, you know what, I'm just going to, you know, we're, we
34:14
lost our guys. You know what, now I'm just,
34:16
I'm, I'm going to protect myself.
34:18
I'm, I'm bigger than the team kind of.
34:20
And I don't know if that's the case.
34:21
I don't know the guy. We're not in the clubhouse.
34:23
We don't know. But I'm saying it could be
34:24
misconstrued like that from that perspective.
34:28
And it's like, hey, sometimes we've seen when a new coach
34:30
comes in, it's like, yeah, we got nothing to lose at this
34:33
point, right? And it it could show like he
34:35
gets an opportunity. And then for Jackson Dart at the
34:38
same time, it's like, Hey, I understand that that we've lost
34:41
a bunch of guys injuries. You know what, I'm going to go
34:43
play balls to the wall and I'm going to show you that I don't
34:45
care who's on the field. I'm going to play with
34:47
everything I got and tried us to put us in the best position even
34:50
though we're not going anywhere. So I can see both sides of it,
34:53
but especially as a rookie, like if he's probably a little older
34:56
with, with what's going on, he probably has a little bit more
34:59
say in, in kind of what happens. But he there's no way you're
35:02
going to, I wouldn't say fold on the team, but be like, Hey, I'm
35:06
just going to take it easy. Because in in reality, if he's
35:09
going to do that and just play, you know, half ass, that's when
35:12
you really get hurt. There are two coaches.
35:15
There are Mike McCarthy would be my #1 the other guy that I would
35:20
look at and I'm just, this is a guy that I think was successful
35:24
when he took over for Vegas. He was an ex giant Antonio
35:28
Pierce. He's been out there all over
35:32
social media. He's been on different shows
35:35
speaking about Gable and and and really throwing Gable under the
35:38
bus saying you don't put your quarterback in harm's way at any
35:41
point at any part of the game when you're trying to get this
35:44
guy to feel the rhythm, feel his rhythm and understand what his
35:48
rhythm is in the NFLI think Antonio Pierce is going to be
35:52
interviewed because I know John Mayer looks very, I mean, speaks
35:56
very highly of him and looks at him as a great football mine.
36:00
But it's it's might. Hold on, do you think that
36:02
mentality, it's from the fact that he played the game and it's
36:05
kind of been in the situation where he saw from a player's
36:08
mentality? I think he was successful as a
36:10
player and he he was successful for the little bit of time as a
36:13
head coach the the Vegas Raiders didn't.
36:16
That first year. Yeah, he was good and I think he
36:20
was. Good in that first year.
36:21
He wasn't an ex as an OS guy though.
36:23
They had no talent though. Well, he didn't have the right
36:25
offensive coordinator. He had anything.
36:27
No, he needed. He needs a good offensive
36:30
coordinator to stand by him. Antonio Pierce is a great
36:33
leader. He is a great leader of men,
36:36
young men. I've heard a lot of.
36:37
Stories about him, I've talked to Michael Strahan, Offset
36:40
before and even other guys that Speedy, you know Speedy's in
36:44
love with and Speedy's favorite player of all time.
36:47
Speedy, why don't you tell everybody Justin talk?
36:50
I've had conversations with them and he said the leader of that
36:53
defense was Antonio Pierce and Antonio Pierce was the the voice
36:57
of reason with that roster. I think Antonio Pierce would be
37:01
a great get for the Giants if they have the right offensive
37:04
coordinator to help him out. But I honestly believe, honestly
37:09
believe, if you're a Giant fan, it's Mike McCarthy.
37:12
Nobody else. I got a list of three guys that
37:14
you didn't mention. I have three different guys.
37:16
I'm not into McCarthy, although I do agree he's a winning coach.
37:19
But I have I have a young guy, an old guy and the right guy.
37:24
The young guy who I like is my favorite young coach is Jesse
37:27
Minter. I'm willing to take a look at
37:29
that Harbaugh tree. If I'm going to take a look at
37:31
any tree for young coaches, that's the one I want to take a
37:35
look at first. But I don't want him.
37:37
He's the young guy I would take if you're going.
37:38
You do not want to bring in a defensive coordinator.
37:41
I don't, I don't agree with that.
37:42
I think if you have a you. Do not want to bring in a
37:44
defensive coordinator. You want to bring in an
37:46
offensive coordinator to help the kid develop.
37:48
I wouldn't do. That the old guy talk about
37:51
quarterback developing Happened to watch a great episode of
37:54
Gruden's QB camp with Jackson Dart and Jon.
37:57
Gruden wants to get back into coaching and John Gruden, in my
38:01
opinion, is one of the best moulders of quarterbacks we've
38:04
ever seen. It's not going to.
38:05
Happen. I don't know.
38:06
I don't think it's going to happen.
38:07
But like I said, this is the old guy that I'd like now.
38:10
The right guy, I think, is Brian Flores.
38:13
Ryan Flores has done water. You're wrong about that.
38:17
There's. Defensive corners.
38:18
Get jobs all the time. Yeah.
38:20
All the time. And they're successful, too.
38:23
They're successful, too. D'amico Ryan's doing a lot with
38:26
a very little bit of offense over there.
38:28
He's got to figure out the offense, but it's not his fault.
38:30
Ryan Flores had a problem in Miami with his quarterback.
38:33
Well, Ryan Flores had a lot of problems in Miami.
38:35
You know about? That I'm just saying I'm not
38:38
bringing. But take a look at what's going
38:39
on with him right now. He's going to get assistant
38:41
coach of the year. He's doing things over there.
38:44
That's that guy, Defensive coordinator of the year, and he
38:48
was a good head coach. The only reason he's not a head
38:49
coach is he sued the NFL. So the only reason he's not a
38:52
head coach and that Miami tried to intentionally lose.
38:56
We know this. This is documented.
38:58
That guy is better than everyone else available.
39:00
He just is. He's a really good.
39:02
Coach Mike McCarthy is the best one available.
39:05
He's a lot younger than McCarthy.
39:06
McCarthy is like 65. It doesn't matter.
39:08
Mike McCarthy has been in the games.
39:11
I, I, I do not. The Giants want to win now.
39:14
And the Giants and John Mayer, they're they're getting up there
39:17
in age. He wants to see another
39:18
championship. He believes he has a quarterback
39:20
to the future. You have to bring in a guy
39:23
that's going to develop him. You're not bringing in a
39:25
defensive corner. You're not bringing another
39:27
rookie. And Jon Grudy, as much as I love
39:29
him and I think he's a slam dunk, if the Giants go that
39:32
route, there's no way the New York Giants and John Mara is
39:36
going to go that route. Because John Gruden, I don't
39:39
believe in any shape or form is ever going to get a job in the
39:43
NFL. The way the NFL looks at him
39:45
with those racist remarks. Unfortunately, the NFL screwed
39:48
him. So it's not going to be John,
39:51
It's Mike McCarthy. Guys, I'm telling you, I'm going
39:54
to write a story. If the Giants are a smart, well,
39:58
they're not. But if they were smart of an
40:00
organization, which they haven't been over the last, I would say
40:03
10 years if they're right. The right way to go is to bring
40:08
in a veteran guy that knows the West Coast offense.
40:11
What has been the most successful?
40:13
Let's talk West Coast. Let's talk.
40:15
Let's talk West. Coast Hold on.
40:17
Hold on West Coast offense. Speedy.
40:19
What has been the best moving offense in the NFL in the last
40:24
20 years? It's the West Coast.
40:26
I disagree. It has been.
40:28
It's a 40 year old offense from the 1980's, the West Coast
40:32
offense. That's what it is.
40:33
It was created by Bill Walsh. It was created by Bill Walsh and
40:38
every disciple, they don't run a West Coast offense.
40:42
They run a derivative of the West Coast offense and it's not
40:46
the same. What word It's it's definitely
40:49
nowhere close to time. And like Jackson darts not a
40:52
timing route guy. Aaron Rodgers wasn't a timing
40:55
route guy even when he was doing it 1015 years ago.
40:58
That's not West Coast because he rolls out of the pocket.
41:02
There's no rolling out of the pocket in the West Coast
41:04
offense. It's on timing 123 throw, 12345
41:09
throw. So stop, stop this.
41:11
But that's a scramble when the play breaks down or a design
41:15
draw all the. Time he did it all the.
41:18
Time but you're saying that you want Jackson Dart to learn how
41:22
to be like 123 go. I'm not telling.
41:24
You, but that's West Coast. That's what that means when you
41:26
say West Coast. It's a timing route.
41:29
I agree. With you, I disagree with you.
41:31
But that's like the definition. But bringing your you want to
41:33
bring in a defensive coordinator.
41:35
That doesn't work. It doesn't.
41:36
Help. I think West Coast is simple.
41:38
I I think that's a simple offense.
41:40
I'll tell you if you're going to do that.
41:41
I think he needs to be different.
41:43
Tell me. Tell me the last defensive
41:45
coordinator that took over over an NFL job for the first time
41:49
that's developed a quarterback? Have you looked at CJ Stroud?
41:52
Yeah. He's great, he's been.
41:55
Great. He's really good.
41:56
He has. Nothing there.
41:58
He's been horrible. You think that he's bad?
42:00
You think CJ Stroud is? Horrible.
42:02
I wouldn't say he's been horrible.
42:04
He was an. Amazing rookie.
42:06
They have the worst offense, one of the worst offensive lines.
42:10
His third year has been. Crap.
42:12
They're they might make the playoffs, I don't think.
42:14
I don't sell them short. They're on the they've been
42:16
really good recently. And that Coach D'amico, Ryan's
42:20
defensive coordinator, is excellent.
42:23
Let me tell you something, if that's excellent, if that's what
42:26
you're. Trying to I would take D'amico
42:27
Ryan's today, Tomorrow and every day and twice on Sundays.
42:31
Well, guess what? There's only one coach that I
42:33
can tell you right now that is a defensive mind that's developed,
42:38
a quarterback in this NFL that's been successful, and that's the
42:42
Buffalo Bills. That is it.
42:44
That is it. So you're going to come at me
42:47
and you're going to tell me. I mean, Belichick developed
42:50
Brady. That's that's a long time ago,
42:53
dude. That's 25 years ago.
42:55
That's a long. That's a long time ago.
42:58
It might be longer than. 25I it's it's, it's been over. 25,
43:01
it's 25, yeah. But here's the facts.
43:04
And I don't care what their numbers are.
43:05
My, my thought here is you bring in a veteran guy that's done it
43:09
and has won in the same division and he knows the Cowboys, he
43:12
knows the Eagles and he knows the Commanders and he knows the
43:16
NFC North, which is the best at really the best division in
43:20
football. So I'm going that route.
43:23
And I don't care how old he is. He was, he's missed one season.
43:27
His offense, absolutely. Works, absolutely.
43:30
Works still, and he can make Jackson Dart a successful
43:34
quarterback in the NFL. That's it for a show, ladies and
43:37
gentlemen. The good stir shows up as we we
43:40
love him. We're finally, finally got him
43:42
back. I know he's been busy.
43:43
I mean, how how old's that white T that?
43:45
Thing looks haggard. It's my freaking sleep.
43:49
That's what I wear in bed. Dude, that's hug.
43:54
Hey, son. It's a Nike yoga, Nike yoga.
43:58
So it's like super stretchy. He bought that from Adam Levine.
44:04
From who, judge? Adam Levine, the singer, that's
44:07
what Those are the kind of shirts he wears, but they're
44:10
usually we're about. To throw in a jacket because
44:11
it's frigid down here. He tastes himself.
44:14
Wait, what's the temperature over there?
44:16
Goody. 75 probably to him. It.
44:20
Is it's 70. 5 Right now it's 3045.
44:26
Feels like 3034. So you're getting it too We're
44:30
it's supposed to be? That's not that cold.
44:31
Girl yes, we just played a like a three hour Little League game
44:35
in this with like with like 30 knot winds.
44:38
So I'm. Supposed to get a little bit of
44:40
wintry mix up here in the mountains.
44:42
Arrow. 30 knot winds getting still, not that bad, that's the
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thing. I'll tell you what, I'll send
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you a nice beautiful. Coat, do you want me to help you
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out? I mean.
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A beautiful coat a. Beautiful coat.
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I mean, I have some nice coats. That keep it's supposed to hit
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the 20s tomorrow like the 29th 20 eights.
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I know you. I like the cold.
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I don't like the cold as much. I don't mind the cold like I'm.
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Dude, I will be outside. I will be outside with a T-shirt
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and I'll be wearing shorts, that stuff.
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That's crazy shorts. And that doesn't bother me.
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That don't bother me that way they don't bother me.
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It really don't. It's freezing.
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That's not freezing. It's not freezing, but it's not
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shorts in a way. I feel like Errol wishes he
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could live in like Canada so he could just put on ice.
45:23
I did skating. I did well.
45:24
I never lived he's. Wearing pants right now.
45:26
This is the first time I've seen him wear pants like in a while.
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But my pants are up, you see, I'm wearing like.
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Yeah, see, he's wearing it like shorts anyways.
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Yeah, I'm wearing it like shorts.
45:33
I'm not wearing pants. You know what I mean?
45:36
Anyways, Joppa, you know, as we all say, hold on.
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Hold on. Before Nathan.
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Hey, wait, that's hold on. I didn't do it all night.
45:43
Joe Buba. Oh, there it is.
45:45
Joe Buba Pass Liquor. I I was waiting for that.
45:49
Everybody was saying one of my friends actually texted me.
45:51
Where's that Joba joba ass liquor?
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Well, I there you go. Anyways, thank you to all the
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Spotify apple fans all over the world that TuneIn and check us
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out and download us. You know, give us the unique
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listeners that we've been as before, as we all say.
46:07
Droba. As we all say.
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Droba Ass Liquor. And remember, ladies and
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gentlemen, you can check us. Check us out on TikTok.
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Instagram X. YouTube Jabba in the mouth.
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We're all over the place. TuneIn and November 17th, all
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you New York fans. Or if you want to come from New
46:27
Jersey into New York, PA, you guys can come down to check us
46:31
out at Virgil's. We will be in Manhattan, Times
46:35
Square, a block away from Carmine's.
46:38
Definitely BBQ if you like BBQ. I know Jabba's going to be in a
46:41
lot of BBQ. That beard's going to be dirty.
46:43
It's going to be brown and messy, right Jabba?
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No, you're not going to eat any. My beard will probably be like
46:51
that, I'm not going to lie. Well, I mean I will, but
46:56
probably not past like 7:00. He's.
46:59
The ITIS. You got to be careful with the
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ITIS if you're going to do a live show.
47:03
The ribs. Jabba, are you saying you have a
47:05
Barba curfew? I'm not going to.
47:08
Have a food curfew. Yeah, Jabba's fasting after a
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certain time. I'm not.
47:13
Fasting I just don't eat past 7. You don't want to eat past 7.
47:17
Is there the reason? That's kind of like fasting, but
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I I don't usually eat past seven It's.
47:21
Supposed to be good for you that you don't do that.
47:23
I don't. I don't eat past seven either,
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honestly. I don't give a crap.
47:26
I eat whenever I eat, you know? It is what it is, you know?
47:31
Hey. Once it gets past seven, that's
47:32
when we switch from honey mustard to Alfredo.
47:36
To applesauce. I love applesauce.
47:38
That's that's my bitch. Applesauce is my bitch, man.
47:43
I'll Make Love to my applesauce, Cinnamon.
47:46
It's got to. Do it when you believe that
47:48
you'll Make Love to your I like anal love Virgils.
47:51
You guys can Make Love to your applesauce.
47:53
I'm gonna go Make Love to my pillow.
47:55
Okay, do that. Anyways, that's it for a show.
47:57
Ladies and gentlemen. Speedy, what do we have on
47:59
Wednesday 8? 45 joining the show for the
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first time, former former Marlins, Mariners, Rays and a
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couple other teams. Outfielder Logan Morris.
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It'll be Jordan Esh. So that's a Nathan for getting.
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Him. Oh nice.
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Good, good. You can come on.
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You can help us interview him. Suck my indoors this Wednesday.
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Yes, this. Wednesday 8:45. 845, come on in,
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you know. I got I got a playoff game all.
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Right. So after the playoff game, you
48:22
know, I guess you'll, he'll join us and.
48:24
Goodies. Bag go to be interviewing us,
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interviewing him live from the playoffs.
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We have goodies bag of hairy. Balls on location.
48:33
Hairy balls. Tomorrow.
48:34
You don't want. That poops gets no coops.
48:38
All right, Jabba's got to go to bed.
48:39
He's got to get to his pillow. That's it.
48:41
Good night. Farewell.
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Droba Yeah, we go. So worldwide Sports radio
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network. Radio Network.