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- 0:09Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the largen Oor John Collider Podcast,
- 0:13Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
- 0:15Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
- 0:17Speaker 1: about them. I'm Ariel Caston, and with me as always
- 0:21Speaker 1: is the ever delightful he made it through Spooky Season
- 0:24Speaker 1: Jonathan Strickland Spooky Season is over? What jow One of
- 0:31Speaker 1: my friends shared a picture that they found online of
- 0:36Speaker 1: an inflatable Santa on his face with an inflatable Turkey
- 0:39Speaker 1: sitting on top of him, saying, not yet, Santa. That's
- 0:43Speaker 1: how I feel.
- 0:44Speaker 2: I the house in our neighborhood that puts out in
- 0:49Speaker 2: front a big animatronic clown that activates when something passes
- 0:55Speaker 2: in front of it. You know, it's it's like it's
- 0:58Speaker 2: like six feet tall tall clown, very skinny. They have
- 1:03Speaker 2: already dressed the clown up in a turkey onesie, so
- 1:06Speaker 2: the clown is. They've done this in the past too,
- 1:09Speaker 2: where for like half the year, the clown will stay
- 1:13Speaker 2: out on their porch and just be dressed for different
- 1:16Speaker 2: holidays depending upon the time of year. We have seen
- 1:19Speaker 2: the clown stick around as long as Easter in the past.
- 1:24Speaker 2: I keep hoping for the clown to state there year round, honestly,
- 1:27Speaker 2: but around the Easter they do tend to retire it.
- 1:30Speaker 2: So we'll see if it lasts till Easter this time.
- 1:33Speaker 2: But currently it is in Thanksgiving mode.
- 1:36Speaker 1: The cloud needs a union break in the springtime, that
- 1:40Speaker 1: might be it. Yeah, speaking of that, that's a great story.
- 1:45Speaker 1: I would love to see a picture of the clown
- 1:47Speaker 1: in a Turkey onesie. And speaking of pictures, thank you
- 1:51Speaker 1: to everybody who's sent in your Halloween costumes. That was
- 1:54Speaker 1: really cool and we really appreciated it. Yeah, that's it.
- 2:02Speaker 1: That's it. That's our show.
- 2:05Speaker 2: Good night, folks.
- 2:08Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, we were off a little bit. It's been
- 2:10Speaker 1: a crazy busy couple of weeks, but we're really glad
- 2:13Speaker 1: to be back. And man, do we got a lot
- 2:16Speaker 1: of stuff to talk about.
- 2:18Speaker 2: Yeah. So originally we had a full lineup for last week,
- 2:23Speaker 2: but then I was the reason why we weren't really
- 2:27Speaker 2: able to record.
- 2:28Speaker 1: And then.
- 2:31Speaker 2: This week we decided we would keep some of the
- 2:33Speaker 2: stories that Arie'll put together for last week and then
- 2:37Speaker 2: we would add to that. And the longer the week
- 2:41Speaker 2: went as usual, the more stories started pouring in, and
- 2:45Speaker 2: so I started to cull the stuff from last week
- 2:49Speaker 2: a lot more strenuously, so there's hardly any stories left
- 2:55Speaker 2: from last week at this point, but there are a couple.
- 2:58Speaker 1: And then, like I was looking right before I got on,
- 3:02Speaker 1: like five more trailers have dropped that we did not
- 3:05Speaker 1: have an opportunity to stick in here.
- 3:07Speaker 2: So yeah, maybe maybe you can give a shout out
- 3:12Speaker 2: of some of those, but yeah I haven't. I haven't
- 3:14Speaker 2: even checked today for any other new ones. But before
- 3:18Speaker 2: we get to all of that, I believe the way
- 3:22Speaker 2: we start off episodes now is we begin with a question.
- 3:27Speaker 1: Yeah, this one feels out of date.
- 3:29Speaker 2: A little bit now, No, it's it's fair because as
- 3:33Speaker 2: we know from the Christmas songs, scary ghost stories still
- 3:38Speaker 2: play a part in Christmas time.
- 3:41Speaker 1: That's true. So my question, that was meant to be
- 3:44Speaker 1: a Halloween proper question, is what scary movie has scared
- 3:49Speaker 1: you the most.
- 3:51Speaker 2: I thought about this for a while because this one's
- 3:54Speaker 2: also hard for me because remembering back to like being
- 3:59Speaker 2: a kid in watching scary movies and stuff like those
- 4:02Speaker 2: affected me on a different level than watching horror movies
- 4:05Speaker 2: as an adult. There were times when I remember watching
- 4:09Speaker 2: movies that weren't even horror movies, but I was sick,
- 4:13Speaker 2: and the combination of being sick and having a fever
- 4:16Speaker 2: and watching a movie just created like these weird hallucinations
- 4:19Speaker 2: in my head that made those movies terrifying. So I
- 4:23Speaker 2: have to separate that out as well. I ultimately decided
- 4:28Speaker 2: that the scariest film I think, or at least the
- 4:30Speaker 2: scariest film watching experience that I have had as an
- 4:36Speaker 2: adult is I'll read you how I wrote it down,
- 4:40Speaker 2: because there's a typo the Blair with Project should be
- 4:46Speaker 2: the Blair Witch Project, but I wrote I forgot to
- 4:49Speaker 2: see there. But yeah, the Blair Witch Project was probably
- 4:52Speaker 2: the scariest film watching experience I had as an adult,
- 4:55Speaker 2: because this is easy to forget with so many years
- 5:00Speaker 2: having gone by. In the early days of the Blair
- 5:04Speaker 2: Witch Project being released, there was such a great marketing
- 5:10Speaker 2: campaign right like this. There was this whole web presence
- 5:14Speaker 2: that supported the lore and expanded the lore of the
- 5:18Speaker 2: Blair Witch Project and created this whole mystery about this
- 5:21Speaker 2: supposed footage that had been discovered in the woods in
- 5:26Speaker 2: Maryland and then edited together to make this film. And
- 5:32Speaker 2: I saw it in the theater with I don't think
- 5:36Speaker 2: it was a full audience, but it was an engaged audience.
- 5:39Speaker 2: People were quiet and listening, which is really important because
- 5:42Speaker 2: sound design in that movie is a big part of
- 5:46Speaker 2: what makes it so effective. And so I was really
- 5:53Speaker 2: creeped out by that movie, so much so that on
- 5:56Speaker 2: the drive back, my partner was cursing my name because
- 6:02Speaker 2: we were going through like backwoods roads that were dark
- 6:09Speaker 2: and you know, no street lights or anything, and that
- 6:12Speaker 2: just seemed to continue the experience that we had just
- 6:17Speaker 2: had watching this film in the theater. What movie scared
- 6:22Speaker 2: you the most?
- 6:23Speaker 1: The movie that has scared me the most is Cloverfield
- 6:30Speaker 1: the first time, Okay, because there is one moment in
- 6:34Speaker 1: it when the main cast is walking through the streets
- 6:39Speaker 1: and there is a person in the background. And I
- 6:41Speaker 1: might have talked about this on a previous episode, but
- 6:44Speaker 1: it still holds true. There was a person in the
- 6:48Speaker 1: background in a tent who had been affected by the
- 6:52Speaker 1: aliens and was just screaming. And the screaming was so
- 6:56Speaker 1: honest and visceral. I like a lot of times were
- 6:59Speaker 1: you When you hear screams in movies, sometimes it's the
- 7:03Speaker 1: same person that they use to put its screams into
- 7:05Speaker 1: multiple movies they have scream artists who specifically do that,
- 7:09Speaker 1: and sometimes they sound really real and sometimes they sound theatrical, right,
- 7:14Speaker 1: depending on.
- 7:15Speaker 2: There are a lot of scream queens, for example, who
- 7:18Speaker 2: are known for their screams in Hollywood films, and they
- 7:22Speaker 2: do a great job. But it does like, if you
- 7:25Speaker 2: were to isolate it, you're like, oh, that's performative. That's
- 7:27Speaker 2: not like what a person really sounds like when they're scared, horrified, upset, distraught,
- 7:35Speaker 2: Like it's just not the sound that most people make.
- 7:38Speaker 1: Yeah, which is honestly something that stuck with me and
- 7:42Speaker 1: I have put into my performance after hearing that I
- 7:46Speaker 1: was able to play somebody who had to scream in
- 7:48Speaker 1: a cuthulup in a Lovecraft piece for an artsy show.
- 7:53Speaker 1: This is years ago now, and I made sure that
- 7:56Speaker 1: that scream that I gave, which is especially hard if
- 7:58Speaker 1: you're on a microphone, right, that that scream that I
- 8:01Speaker 1: gave was earnest and not scream queen. Scream queen is
- 8:06Speaker 1: great for some stuff, but I wanted it to be
- 8:08Speaker 1: scary and to give a real terrified, like I am
- 8:13Speaker 1: terrified for my life scream. We'll do it, Bravo to
- 8:18Speaker 1: whoever that actress was or whoever that scream artist was.
- 8:23Speaker 1: There are like that that was the scariest movie I've seen.
- 8:27Speaker 1: There are other scary movies that have disturbed me, some
- 8:31Speaker 1: like watching The Poseidon Adventure as a kid. That's a
- 8:34Speaker 1: that's a scary movie, but it's not a horror I
- 8:37Speaker 1: would say made me very afraid of draft. I love
- 8:41Speaker 1: cruises now, but it made me so afraid as a
- 8:42Speaker 1: little kid.
- 8:44Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think, Well, first of all, it's interesting
- 8:49Speaker 2: that both of us picked found footage films, uh, because
- 8:52Speaker 2: I mean, that's a that's a sub genre that has
- 8:57Speaker 2: way more misses than hits, Like they're just so many.
- 9:01Speaker 2: I mean, I think horror in general tends to be
- 9:04Speaker 2: a low budget genre for film, Like you typically don't
- 9:09Speaker 2: have big budgets for horror movies. You don't need them.
- 9:12Speaker 2: But then found footage tends to be even more so
- 9:16Speaker 2: in the let's call it affordable side of production. But
- 9:22Speaker 2: that also means that there's a very low bar of entry,
- 9:24Speaker 2: and so there's a ton of stuff that's just not
- 9:27Speaker 2: very good. So for Cloverfield and for Blair Witch to
- 9:30Speaker 2: be in there, like those I would argue are two
- 9:32Speaker 2: of the better found footage films.
- 9:34Speaker 1: Well, I mean Cloverfield admittedly had a I don't know,
- 9:39Speaker 1: I would imagine it had I haven't looked into it.
- 9:42Speaker 1: I would imagine it would have had a pretty high
- 9:44Speaker 1: budget because it was also a sci.
- 9:45Speaker 2: Fi Oh sure, sure, yeah. I just mean in general,
- 9:50Speaker 2: because of the method of production, it has a very
- 9:54Speaker 2: low bar of entry, and that's why we had a
- 9:57Speaker 2: flood of these low budget, low quality found footage films.
- 10:04Speaker 2: I didn't mean to suggest that all movies that are
- 10:07Speaker 2: in that are low budget, but I mean Cloverfield also,
- 10:09Speaker 2: similar to Blair Witch, had an incredible marketing campaign that
- 10:14Speaker 2: was based largely around mystery, and you could argue that
- 10:18Speaker 2: a lot of that mystery was never revealed or solved.
- 10:21Speaker 2: And to that, I tell you, JJ Abrams.
- 10:25Speaker 1: Yeah, I still need to watch the third Cloverfield movie,
- 10:28Speaker 1: even though they're sister movies, but they're not necessarily continuations
- 10:32Speaker 1: of each other.
- 10:33Speaker 2: And it also was a movie, as I understand it,
- 10:35Speaker 2: that was a science fiction film that was not related
- 10:38Speaker 2: to Cloverfield. And then along the way in development, it
- 10:43Speaker 2: was decided, hey, let's tag this on with Cloverfield, and
- 10:46Speaker 2: then they did some reshoots to incorporate a little bit
- 10:49Speaker 2: of Cloverfield lore in there. Honestly, I think ten Cloverfield
- 10:54Speaker 2: Lane was the same way. I don't think it started
- 10:56Speaker 2: off as a Cloverfield movie. Out of the three, I
- 10:59Speaker 2: think ten Cloverfield is the best, Like I think it's
- 11:01Speaker 2: the best made.
- 11:03Speaker 1: I think it was the most entertaining for sure, because
- 11:07Speaker 1: it was you know, it's still had mystery and it's
- 11:10Speaker 1: still had anxiety and.
- 11:14Speaker 2: An incredibly dark performance by John Goodman. He was so
- 11:19Speaker 2: terrifying in.
- 11:19Speaker 1: That movie, so nuanced too, because you were like, yeah,
- 11:23Speaker 1: do I should I hate him? Which is great? You know,
- 11:25Speaker 1: that's the best kind of villain. It's one of the
- 11:29Speaker 1: better villainy villainous performances, Like it's in my top ten
- 11:32Speaker 1: because if a villain has such conviction, you know.
- 11:39Speaker 2: To the point where, yeah, to the point where you
- 11:41Speaker 2: as a viewer start to question whether or not they're right,
- 11:44Speaker 2: you know.
- 11:45Speaker 1: That makes for the best story. And I guess that's
- 11:47Speaker 1: also why, like maybe the movies that had the biggest
- 11:50Speaker 1: scary impact on us did is because you know, especially
- 11:54Speaker 1: for stuff like Blair Witch, where the entry was so
- 11:57Speaker 1: low and it really had to rely on the performance
- 12:00Speaker 1: is and so when you have a movie where it
- 12:03Speaker 1: can't fall back on everything else and it has to
- 12:05Speaker 1: rely on the performances, it makes a bigger impact.
- 12:09Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, those are those are great, great choices Clorofield
- 12:15Speaker 2: and Blair Witch. I'm pleased with that and interesting about
- 12:21Speaker 2: the Poseidon Adventure and that. Like the other movie that
- 12:24Speaker 2: I thought of that terrified me. The first half terrified me.
- 12:27Speaker 2: The second half did not terrify me was The Descent.
- 12:32Speaker 2: And I think I think The Descent like it's a
- 12:35Speaker 2: it's a great movie. I don't want to give it's
- 12:38Speaker 2: an old movie. I guess I can give spoilers, right,
- 12:40Speaker 2: It's been around forever. The issue I have with The
- 12:45Speaker 2: Descent is the first half of that film is mostly
- 12:48Speaker 2: done as a group of friends who get lost while
- 12:51Speaker 2: they are caving, and just the the claustrophobia and the
- 13:00Speaker 2: urgency that's in that first half of the movie is
- 13:03Speaker 2: enough to really I can't. I mean, it was like
- 13:05Speaker 2: a knife twisting in me. It was really causing me anxiety,
- 13:10Speaker 2: and I thought was amazing, and it turns out to
- 13:13Speaker 2: be a monster movie, and once the monsters come into it,
- 13:17Speaker 2: it actually like a lot of that tension went away
- 13:20Speaker 2: from me because that wasn't the part that I thought
- 13:24Speaker 2: was scary. Now. Granted, if you go back knowing it's
- 13:28Speaker 2: a monster movie and you're really paying attention and you're
- 13:30Speaker 2: looking in the corners and stuff, you will see signs
- 13:33Speaker 2: of the monsters earlier in the movie. But because I
- 13:36Speaker 2: didn't know it was a monster movie, I thought it
- 13:38Speaker 2: was a thriller, psychological horror kind of thing, and I'm
- 13:42Speaker 2: watching it for the cave stuff. I didn't notice any
- 13:45Speaker 2: of the monster stuff until it becomes like hit you
- 13:48Speaker 2: over the head obvious, like, oh, this is what the
- 13:51Speaker 2: movie's about. I didn't notice any of the subtle stuff
- 13:53Speaker 2: at all. It was not until I watched like a
- 13:55Speaker 2: making of that I even saw it. But I was like, oh, man,
- 13:59Speaker 2: I really like this movie. And I still like the movie.
- 14:03Speaker 2: It's still a good movie. It just I wish I
- 14:07Speaker 2: had gotten a version of The Descent where there weren't
- 14:10Speaker 2: any monsters. The monsters would have been some of the
- 14:14Speaker 2: characters involved in the story, because they you find out
- 14:18Speaker 2: that some of them have done some bad things leading
- 14:22Speaker 2: up to the film, and that to me would have
- 14:25Speaker 2: been more interesting.
- 14:27Speaker 1: That makes sense. I had to make sure that I
- 14:29Speaker 1: was thinking of the right movie because when you said
- 14:31Speaker 1: the Descent, I thought of The Abyss.
- 14:34Speaker 2: Different movie.
- 14:35Speaker 1: Yeah, is a different movie and not very scary. There's
- 14:37Speaker 1: some tense moments and.
- 14:39Speaker 2: Some watching that rat is kind of sad. It's scary
- 14:44Speaker 2: where they they they're using the liquid oxygen stuff and
- 14:47Speaker 2: they're proving it with the rat and I'm like, that's
- 14:51Speaker 2: not cool because apparently they really did that to a rat.
- 14:54Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, no.
- 14:56Speaker 1: That's what is it? Is it an apocalypse now where
- 14:59Speaker 1: there's a hou scene that I'm.
- 15:00Speaker 2: Like, no, yeah, yeah, nope, nope.
- 15:03Speaker 1: I don't do that. I don't do And this is
- 15:05Speaker 1: why I don't like watching animal movies because like, even, yeah,
- 15:11Speaker 1: I know nowadays that h working conditions if they use
- 15:16Speaker 1: a real animal are better, but it just affects. It
- 15:20Speaker 1: affects me. I don't like that. Now. I will never
- 15:23Speaker 1: watch the Abyss again.
- 15:26Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it upset me. When I heard more about it,
- 15:28Speaker 2: I was like, oh no, all right, well, let's talk
- 15:32Speaker 2: about things that we have seen since the last time
- 15:34Speaker 2: we recorded. Two weeks have gone by, Ariel, Have you
- 15:37Speaker 2: finally finished Task Master?
- 15:41Speaker 1: No, I'm in season Well that's like hard to do
- 15:45Speaker 1: because we're in the middle of a season right now.
- 15:47Speaker 2: So season twenty, well, I meant watching the old like
- 15:50Speaker 2: the back episodes. Have you finished? Have you made your
- 15:52Speaker 2: way all the way through season series one?
- 15:55Speaker 1: No, I'm in series four right now. But I am
- 15:59Speaker 1: delighted to say, because I was really worried. So our
- 16:02Speaker 1: friend Kate started at series one and his work working
- 16:06Speaker 1: her way up and I've been working that way backward.
- 16:09Speaker 1: And she had mentioned that people were really angry at
- 16:11Speaker 1: the beginning, and I, you know, I don't do well
- 16:13Speaker 1: with anger sometimes, and so I was really worried that
- 16:18Speaker 1: I was gonna find this show less and less funny.
- 16:20Speaker 1: But absolutely not. I am finding it delightful all the
- 16:23Speaker 1: way back. So series four is quite fun. It has
- 16:29Speaker 1: both Noel Felding and and the original host from Great
- 16:37Speaker 1: British Bake Off Mel. I was like, who wasn't Sue Mel?
- 16:41Speaker 1: And they're absolutely delightful and everybody else is as well.
- 16:47Speaker 1: So No, I haven't finished, but I am still watching that.
- 16:51Speaker 1: We are still watching Venture Brothers though when mighty nine
- 16:54Speaker 1: comes out, I think next week, in the next two weeks,
- 17:00Speaker 1: we are going to switch over to that because oh
- 17:02Speaker 1: my gosh, everything from it looks great. I did finish
- 17:05Speaker 1: the Pit and I loved it, and I'm looking forward
- 17:07Speaker 1: to season two. Like I think one of the reasons
- 17:11Speaker 1: that I like it so much is because even though
- 17:13Speaker 1: they deal with some very dark and some very sad stuff,
- 17:17Speaker 1: because it is a group of people trying to help,
- 17:20Speaker 1: it still feels uplifting in the end, you know. And
- 17:26Speaker 1: then I'm watching I'm surprised I've watched all that because
- 17:29Speaker 1: I've been doing a lot of like rewatching of the
- 17:32Speaker 1: actual play. I'm in to pull social media clips, which
- 17:36Speaker 1: is fine. It's a good journey for me because I
- 17:38Speaker 1: need to not judge my performances so harshly. And then
- 17:45Speaker 1: I've been watching a lot of Inscription because I had
- 17:48Speaker 1: some friends play it over the holiday, and Tony is
- 17:53Speaker 1: still playing it. I won't play it. It falls a
- 17:56Speaker 1: little too close to animal cruelty to me.
- 18:00Speaker 2: Really. Yeah, they are low pixel count cards.
- 18:07Speaker 1: I had the I had the concept described to me
- 18:10Speaker 1: before I watched it, so it's it doesn't It doesn't
- 18:14Speaker 1: bother me so much to watch it, but I don't.
- 18:16Speaker 1: I don't want to put it.
- 18:17Speaker 2: Would you have issues with Pokemon?
- 18:21Speaker 1: No, because they just pass out and then they come back.
- 18:24Speaker 1: I don't know why I don't know. I think it's
- 18:26Speaker 1: because the when you describe you have an animal card
- 18:30Speaker 1: and you have to kill it to get its blood
- 18:33Speaker 1: so that you can play other cards, and then one
- 18:35Speaker 1: of them says, please kill me so you can use
- 18:38Speaker 1: my blood. Like that just immediately turned me off as bad.
- 18:42Speaker 2: And other ones will beg for you not to use them.
- 18:46Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 18:47Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh. I like that game. I never did
- 18:50Speaker 2: finish it. I don't think I did anyway, because as
- 18:53Speaker 2: multiple phases, and each phase is very different from what
- 18:56Speaker 2: came before. Yeah, and so that's great, it's a really
- 19:01Speaker 2: interesting risk to take. But in my case, the thing
- 19:05Speaker 2: you don't want to happen happens, which is that the
- 19:08Speaker 2: player has become enamored of a particular phase and so
- 19:13Speaker 2: when it changes, they're like, oh, well, this isn't what
- 19:15Speaker 2: I wanted to play, And that's kind of what happened
- 19:19Speaker 2: to me. Also, the second phase, I would argue, appeals
- 19:23Speaker 2: to a generation of players behind me, like just one
- 19:27Speaker 2: generation behind, because I would think that it kind of
- 19:30Speaker 2: appeals to like the early Nintendo generation of players. Well
- 19:37Speaker 2: that's a little younger than I am, so not by much,
- 19:41Speaker 2: but a little bit. So Yeah, anyway, it's a good game.
- 19:45Speaker 2: Well for me. I saw a play called Covenant, and
- 19:53Speaker 2: I can say that if Covenant is ever being performed
- 19:57Speaker 2: in your area, it is well worth a watch. It
- 20:02Speaker 2: is a horror play set in the nineteen thirties in
- 20:07Speaker 2: a small town in Georgia with a black community. Five actors,
- 20:13Speaker 2: four actresses, one actor, and minimal staging. Like they had
- 20:20Speaker 2: like a sideboard hutch kind of thing in the back,
- 20:24Speaker 2: and they had like a table set that would slide
- 20:26Speaker 2: out noiselessly. All the technical stuff of this play. I
- 20:30Speaker 2: have no idea how they did it. I mean, I
- 20:33Speaker 2: was two rows back, I could see, and it's a
- 20:37Speaker 2: small theater that we were in. I could see everything,
- 20:40Speaker 2: and the whole time I'm like, how'd they do that? Though?
- 20:43Speaker 2: Like the table and chairs would slide out on a
- 20:47Speaker 2: platform noiselessly, The back drop would split apart, the table
- 20:54Speaker 2: and chairs would slide in from backstage. The back would
- 20:58Speaker 2: come back together to four the backdrop that you're looking at,
- 21:03Speaker 2: and then the actors would come on and set the
- 21:06Speaker 2: table the chairs around the table, and then at the
- 21:08Speaker 2: end they would put the chairs back on the little
- 21:10Speaker 2: platform and it would slide back noiselessly. Again to the
- 21:14Speaker 2: point where sometimes if something was going on far stage left,
- 21:18Speaker 2: the table would be set stage right, you wouldn't even
- 21:20Speaker 2: have noticed it come out because you're paying attention to
- 21:23Speaker 2: what's happening. That's how quiet it was. And I was
- 21:26Speaker 2: just amazed by that. And there's moments of supernatural horror
- 21:30Speaker 2: in it, so stuff goes flying around like a like
- 21:34Speaker 2: a Poultrigeist kind of thing. And again, I'm sitting two
- 21:39Speaker 2: rows back. I don't see any fishing line, I don't
- 21:42Speaker 2: see anything like I have no idea how they did it.
- 21:46Speaker 2: And the last moment of the play, not to spoil anything,
- 21:51Speaker 2: was incredibly effective and horrifying, and I loved it so much.
- 21:58Speaker 2: It also it's also very calm, implicated play because it's
- 22:01Speaker 2: got a lot of different elements of horror in it.
- 22:03Speaker 2: There's supernatural horror, religious horror, family trauma. There's they borrow
- 22:09Speaker 2: from the storyline of you know, a guitarist meets the
- 22:13Speaker 2: devil and does a deal in order to be better
- 22:16Speaker 2: at playing music. That's an element in the story, but
- 22:22Speaker 2: highly recommended. If Covenant is ever being performed in your area,
- 22:28Speaker 2: it's sold out for the last couple of performances here
- 22:32Speaker 2: in Atlanta. Yeah, yeay, but yeah, yeah. I was just like,
- 22:39Speaker 2: I'm so glad I had the chance to see it,
- 22:41Speaker 2: and it was one of those people might know I
- 22:45Speaker 2: have issues motivating myself to get out of the house,
- 22:50Speaker 2: and this was one of the nights where I was.
- 22:53Speaker 2: It almost didn't happen, but I'm so glad it did.
- 22:56Speaker 2: The other thing I saw this week was the stard
- 23:00Speaker 2: Valley Symphony of Seasons. This is where an orchestra plays
- 23:05Speaker 2: music from the Starduo Valley game and my wife and
- 23:10Speaker 2: I we went to see this at the fabulous Fox
- 23:14Speaker 2: Theater in downtown Atlanta, and they were using vocal musicians.
- 23:18Speaker 2: So the way this show works is the conductor they
- 23:24Speaker 2: contract local musicians to come together, and the conductor works
- 23:28Speaker 2: with them to practice all the pieces and then they
- 23:33Speaker 2: perform it like essentially that night. So we saw it
- 23:37Speaker 2: and it was phenomenal. Everyone. The musicians were all amazing,
- 23:43Speaker 2: the music was great, the crowd was so into it.
- 23:49Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun. Although when it came
- 23:52Speaker 2: to voting for your favorite character, the one I voted
- 23:55Speaker 2: forgot third place.
- 23:58Speaker 1: Sad. Yeah, I was supposed to go to the Fox
- 24:02Speaker 1: this weekend, but my show got rescheduled.
- 24:06Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was going to.
- 24:08Speaker 1: See Taylor Tomlinson and she's sick, so see you're in
- 24:11Speaker 1: February instead.
- 24:12Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry to hear that she's sick, and I'm
- 24:14Speaker 2: glad that she's able to get a new date.
- 24:17Speaker 1: Me too. I was originally like, well, that's okay. Running
- 24:19Speaker 1: Man comes out this week and I'll go see that
- 24:22Speaker 1: instead it comes out next week.
- 24:25Speaker 2: Yeah. I've heard early takes from people who saw like
- 24:30Speaker 2: the early screening say that it's a really fun watch.
- 24:34Speaker 2: So that sounds cool, like it's a fun time in
- 24:36Speaker 2: the theater.
- 24:37Speaker 1: Which is nice because this story that it's based on
- 24:41Speaker 1: is good, but not as fun.
- 24:44Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious if they changed the ending because the
- 24:48Speaker 2: ending of the story it's a Stephen King story, so
- 24:50Speaker 2: guess what. In fact, it's not just a Stephen King story.
- 24:54Speaker 2: I think that was when one he wrote under his
- 24:55Speaker 2: pen name Richard Bachmann, which he once described as Stephen
- 24:58Speaker 2: King without a Conscience. So guess what. It does not
- 25:02Speaker 2: have a happy ending, And I don't know if the
- 25:05Speaker 2: movie does or not. If it does have a happy ending,
- 25:07Speaker 2: I think I'm going to be a little disappointed, but.
- 25:11Speaker 1: I know they have made some changes to the ending,
- 25:14Speaker 1: but I don't know what.
- 25:15Speaker 2: Yeah, it may turn out that everything is fine at
- 25:19Speaker 2: the end, will Yeah, I mean, I'm still I'm sure
- 25:21Speaker 2: I'll still enjoy it. Goodness knows. The Arnold Schwarzenegger version
- 25:24Speaker 2: of Running Man was almost unrecognizable compared to the story.
- 25:30Speaker 1: Yeah, however, like I could go see Predator bad Lands
- 25:34Speaker 1: this weekend if I want to do something geeky. The
- 25:38Speaker 1: friends that we have that have seen it so far
- 25:40Speaker 1: have liked it, so that's good. And Crispy Crispy and
- 25:46Speaker 1: a couple other people, Yeah.
- 25:48Speaker 2: Chrispy sees movies before they've been made.
- 25:52Speaker 1: Yes, Yes. And then Pluribis comes out today, and everybody
- 25:55Speaker 1: who listens knows that I'm excited about that.
- 25:57Speaker 2: So I've also heard good advance stuff about that as well.
- 26:02Speaker 1: Oh good, so I haven't heard anything. So that's that's
- 26:05Speaker 1: delightful to hear.
- 26:06Speaker 2: All right, Well, since we're coming up on the thirty
- 26:09Speaker 2: minute mark, let's let's start the show. Let's this is
- 26:14Speaker 2: I say, I joke because this is where we typically
- 26:17Speaker 2: would start the show back in the olden days, where
- 26:19Speaker 2: we first introduced the segment that you and I both love.
- 26:25Speaker 2: We call it stuff that should not take us very
- 26:28Speaker 2: long to talk about, so we do it as quickly
- 26:30Speaker 2: as we possibly can, one after the other. That's what
- 26:32Speaker 2: the segment's name is.
- 26:33Speaker 1: Is the most concise name I've ever heard.
- 26:36Speaker 2: Yep, so I will go first, I believe, Uh yes, Okay,
- 26:42Speaker 2: here we go. I was excited when Conjuring Last Rites
- 26:46Speaker 2: came out, not because I like the Conjuring films, because
- 26:49Speaker 2: I don't really like them, but because it would mean
- 26:52Speaker 2: the last time the Warrens, who were real life demonologists
- 26:55Speaker 2: and in my opinion, con artists, would appear on screen.
- 27:01Speaker 2: Except now. Variety reports there's a Conjuring prequel in the works,
- 27:04Speaker 2: which makes sense from a financial standpoint, I suppose, but
- 27:08Speaker 2: there's not a ghost of a chance you'll find me
- 27:10Speaker 2: watching it.
- 27:14Speaker 1: Sad news maybe for Doctor who fans. It is leaving
- 27:18Speaker 1: Disney Plus, but BBC is continuing, will be continuing to
- 27:22Speaker 1: make the show so after after it comes back with
- 27:27Speaker 1: its Christmas special, and then I guess the spin off
- 27:30Speaker 1: the War between Land and See, that'll be it for
- 27:31Speaker 1: Disney Plus, but they will be continuing the show.
- 27:36Speaker 2: Fifty years ago, a film adaptation of the Rocky Horror
- 27:39Speaker 2: Show Hits cinemas, and now we're getting another sequel in
- 27:43Speaker 2: the form of a four issue comic Slasha graphic novel
- 27:46Speaker 2: titled Bride of Rocky Horror. Now I say another sequel
- 27:50Speaker 2: because there's actually a movie called Shock Treatment that's sort
- 27:53Speaker 2: of kind of a sequel, and I actually like it
- 27:55Speaker 2: more than Rocky Horror. But anyway, this new story follows
- 27:58Speaker 2: Janet Weiss seven years after the events of the Rocky
- 28:02Speaker 2: Hour Picture Show, and the project has already funded on
- 28:05Speaker 2: Kickstarter with a dozen days left to go in the campaign.
- 28:10Speaker 1: Doctor stur Berkowitz passed away at the early age of
- 28:15Speaker 1: sixty four, I believe sixty four to sixty five, which
- 28:20Speaker 1: is making news because he had a giant collection of
- 28:25Speaker 1: classic classic TV memorabilia, which has all been auctioned off
- 28:32Speaker 1: by Heritage Auctions. I think the top grossing thing was
- 28:36Speaker 1: Batman and Robin outfits from the Adam West Show that
- 28:39Speaker 1: went for five hundred and seventy five thousand dollars.
- 28:44Speaker 2: Holy Batpans Robin. What happens when you mix mercenaries, sharks,
- 28:50Speaker 2: a time loop, and Keanu Reeves? Well, apparently you get
- 28:53Speaker 2: a high concept sci fi film called Shiver, which Warner
- 28:56Speaker 2: Brothers is in talks to acquire and produce. I Shore
- 29:00Speaker 2: wrote the script, which we'll see Reeves as a smuggler
- 29:03Speaker 2: who finds himself caught between mercenaries and sharks while he
- 29:06Speaker 2: is stuck in the time loop, because time loops are
- 29:09Speaker 2: still a thing.
- 29:13Speaker 1: We talked about JJ Abrams a little bit earlier and
- 29:15Speaker 1: how we don't always get a good explanation. Well, just
- 29:18Speaker 1: like that, we're not getting a Star Trek for by
- 29:21Speaker 1: jj Abrams. It has dropped that while there are more
- 29:25Speaker 1: Star Trek movies in the works, they will be using
- 29:26Speaker 1: a different cast, which also makes sense because those actors
- 29:29Speaker 1: have gone on two wonderful things and now have a
- 29:32Speaker 1: higher asking price. But hey, we might get a Star
- 29:36Speaker 1: Trek Year one spin off with the great actors from
- 29:39Speaker 1: Strange New Worlds, which I would love to see them
- 29:41Speaker 1: in some movies.
- 29:43Speaker 2: James Tinny in the Fourth and wurther dell Edeedra have
- 29:46Speaker 2: created a horror comic titled Something Is Killing the Children, which,
- 29:50Speaker 2: as far as titles go, is quite the doozy. Blumhouse
- 29:54Speaker 2: has now optioned the film rights to that work, with
- 29:57Speaker 2: plans to create both films and TV sit He's based
- 30:00Speaker 2: off the property the TV series is said to be animation,
- 30:03Speaker 2: while the film would be live action. The story follows
- 30:06Speaker 2: a town plagued by children munching monsters and the weird
- 30:10Speaker 2: heroine who shows up to fight them.
- 30:13Speaker 1: What an interesting concept. Have kids who eat monsters?
- 30:17Speaker 2: No? No, no, no children munching? I saw a man
- 30:19Speaker 2: eating lettuce.
- 30:23Speaker 1: Ooh that's scary. Okay, we're getting another Miami Vice movie.
- 30:28Speaker 1: And I say that because we got one in two
- 30:29Speaker 1: thousand and circs with Jamie Foxx and Colin Ferrell. Now
- 30:35Speaker 1: it's going to be Austin Butler and Michael B. Jordan.
- 30:38Speaker 1: I do like that care up. I think they'll do
- 30:41Speaker 1: a good job with it. I just don't know if
- 30:43Speaker 1: we'd need a little bit more time before another Miami
- 30:46Speaker 1: Vice movie.
- 30:47Speaker 2: What twenty years isn't enough.
- 30:50Speaker 1: God, it's been twenty years.
- 30:52Speaker 2: You said two thousand and six. It'll be twenty twenty
- 30:54Speaker 2: six by the time this.
- 30:56Speaker 1: The show was in the eighties, So.
- 30:58Speaker 2: I guess it means that every twenty years we'll get
- 31:00Speaker 2: another Miami Vite.
- 31:01Speaker 1: I guess. I guess so.
- 31:03Speaker 2: All right, Well, after plenty of rumors, news broke this
- 31:06Speaker 2: week that Warner Brothers has added Grimlins three to its
- 31:09Speaker 2: release schedule in twenty twenty seven. Chris Columbus, who wrote
- 31:12Speaker 2: the first film, will direct it. This makes me sad
- 31:15Speaker 2: because I would like to see Joe Dante direct all
- 31:18Speaker 2: three of the Gremlins movies, and I really would love
- 31:21Speaker 2: Gremlins three to be as different from the first two
- 31:23Speaker 2: films as Grimlins two was to the first Grimlins. But
- 31:26Speaker 2: I suspect we're gonna get something more in line with
- 31:28Speaker 2: the original movie, which is not necessarily a bad thing.
- 31:32Speaker 2: I just I like the fact that the Gremlins movies
- 31:35Speaker 2: don't resemble each other very much.
- 31:38Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe we'll get something completely different. I just hope
- 31:41Speaker 1: it's not a truly terrifying Krimlins movie. But on from
- 31:46Speaker 1: Grimlins to Demons. We will be getting a K Pop
- 31:48Speaker 1: Demon Hunters two movie coming out in twenty twenty nine.
- 31:53Speaker 1: That is feels like forever away, but it's only like
- 31:56Speaker 1: a three and a half four year break, and we
- 31:59Speaker 1: know that the studio behind it likes to take their
- 32:01Speaker 1: time to put out a good product, so I'm okay
- 32:03Speaker 1: with that.
- 32:05Speaker 2: This week's say what news item for me at least
- 32:08Speaker 2: is that Jennifer Lawrence, Emma Stone, and Cole Escula are
- 32:12Speaker 2: collaborating on a film all about everyone's favorite diva, Miss Piggy.
- 32:17Speaker 2: Escola is writing the film and Stone and Lawrence are
- 32:20Speaker 2: producing it. And apparently the idea that started it all
- 32:23Speaker 2: was one if Miss Piggy got canceled. Lawrence says, that's
- 32:27Speaker 2: not necessarily the plot of this film, but it did
- 32:29Speaker 2: get the ball rolling, which I think is meat.
- 32:33Speaker 1: And lastly, yes, lastly, Scrubs. We knew that they were
- 32:38Speaker 1: getting a revival, reboots, sequel something, and they've started production.
- 32:44Speaker 1: There is a little video dropped on TikTok and let
- 32:47Speaker 1: me tell you, I love Scrubs fans because it is
- 32:50Speaker 1: a common thing in Hollywood for people to say, hey,
- 32:53Speaker 1: guys look great and these girls have aged. But everybody
- 32:56Speaker 1: who's been commenting on the video have said that Sarah
- 32:59Speaker 1: Chockey and g D Rays don't look like they've aged
- 33:02Speaker 1: a day, and I kind of like they do. Well, one,
- 33:05Speaker 1: they do look great, and two I love that there's
- 33:07Speaker 1: that support for age, for women being able to get
- 33:10Speaker 1: older without quote unquote aging in Hollywood. Zach Braff, though
- 33:16Speaker 1: he has aged at least in the little video.
- 33:20Speaker 2: And Hooch is crazy. Yes, I was a little sad
- 33:26Speaker 2: that the because I did watch the little video. I
- 33:29Speaker 2: was a little sad that they did not use I
- 33:32Speaker 2: Am Superman or I'm No Superman rather as the music
- 33:36Speaker 2: in the background, because I you know, that show introduced
- 33:39Speaker 2: me to that song, and I love that song. It's
- 33:42Speaker 2: just a fun little like any any pop song that
- 33:46Speaker 2: incorporates banjo, I'm like, I'm predisposed to at least give
- 33:51Speaker 2: it a listen. Yeah, well, now we're going into the
- 33:54Speaker 2: stuff what we put in our show. Though it's not genre,
- 33:58Speaker 2: but here is any way because we have things to
- 34:01Speaker 2: say about it. Segment.
- 34:03Speaker 1: Some of these are genre ish, like.
- 34:06Speaker 2: I moved some of them around, but yeah, like there's
- 34:09Speaker 2: one in particular that a couple maybe that you could
- 34:12Speaker 2: argue are are close. But first up, we have and
- 34:16Speaker 2: I'm going to say this carefully because the title was
- 34:19Speaker 2: made in such a way as to be almost a
- 34:22Speaker 2: pun of a very rude thing to say, Facam Hall, which.
- 34:27Speaker 1: I didn't notice until you just said it, because you're
- 34:30Speaker 1: reading it.
- 34:31Speaker 2: You didn't notice that it Yeah, if you say it quickly,
- 34:34Speaker 2: and yeah.
- 34:36Speaker 1: No I didn't. Okay, all right, yes, uh Thackham Hall,
- 34:41Speaker 1: which is uh if Downton Abbey and scary movie had
- 34:47Speaker 1: a Baby.
- 34:47Speaker 2: Or if you're older, maybe Downton Abbey and Airplane or
- 34:52Speaker 2: Downton Abbey and the Naked Gun.
- 34:55Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess. I guess. The the humor is the
- 34:59Speaker 1: humor sensibility is closer to Airplane or Naked Gun than
- 35:02Speaker 1: to a scary movie. It looks like there's a little
- 35:04Speaker 1: more thought than just reference.
- 35:06Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's framed as a murder mystery at an
- 35:09Speaker 2: estate owned by a family called the Davenports. And you
- 35:14Speaker 2: have like your your stock character, the investigator from Scotland
- 35:20Speaker 2: Yard who comes into too look into this murder. And
- 35:26Speaker 2: it's written by Jimmy Carr, who also has a small
- 35:30Speaker 2: role as a vicar in the movie. What did you
- 35:36Speaker 2: think about this?
- 35:42Speaker 1: I I'm always hit or miss on his historical pieces
- 35:49Speaker 1: that are modern as well, like Bridgerton is another example
- 35:55Speaker 1: of things that I'm iffy on on whether it'll hit
- 35:57Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, this one, the humor doesn't feel like
- 36:01Speaker 1: it's conceptually I like it. The humor all felt a
- 36:05Speaker 1: little missing to me.
- 36:08Speaker 2: I feel very much the same way, like this is
- 36:12Speaker 2: set in the nineteen thirties, but it's got a very
- 36:15Speaker 2: kind of modern sensibility. As you point out like it's
- 36:18Speaker 2: you know, people are behaving in ways that are outside
- 36:21Speaker 2: of what you would expect in a nineteen thirties era story.
- 36:26Speaker 2: But that's part of the joke, right, And it is
- 36:29Speaker 2: about kind of giving that farcical spoof sort of approach
- 36:35Speaker 2: to Downton Abbey or other period pieces that are produced
- 36:40Speaker 2: out of England and to treat it kind of like
- 36:43Speaker 2: a Zucker Brothers movie, like Airplane or Top Secret or
- 36:48Speaker 2: Naked Gun or any of those things. Yeah, I felt
- 36:51Speaker 2: like a lot of the stuff kind of was a
- 36:53Speaker 2: miss for me.
- 36:55Speaker 1: Maybe we've just been ruined by working at the Renaissance
- 36:57Speaker 1: Festival for so long.
- 36:58Speaker 2: I think part of it is that there's a disconnect
- 37:01Speaker 2: in my head between the dry English humor and the
- 37:06Speaker 2: zany joke approach of a Zucker Brothers movie.
- 37:10Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, for sure. It might be one of those
- 37:15Speaker 1: ones that I'll watch if it's on a streaming network
- 37:18Speaker 1: I have and I have nothing better to do in
- 37:21Speaker 1: an afternoon. Uh.
- 37:23Speaker 2: This, however, does come out on a special date, and
- 37:26Speaker 2: aerel I want you to remember this date because when
- 37:29Speaker 2: I ask you about a date, you're gonna have to
- 37:32Speaker 2: tell me December fifth. Okay, I just remember December fifth.
- 37:38Speaker 2: If I ask you, what's that date again, you say
- 37:41Speaker 2: December fifth? All right, okay, we're going to practice. What's
- 37:45Speaker 2: that date again?
- 37:47Speaker 1: December fifth?
- 37:48Speaker 2: There you go. So that's when this movie comes out
- 37:51Speaker 2: next time, all right.
- 37:53Speaker 1: Dead Man's Wire. This one is based on a true
- 37:55Speaker 1: story about a guy who takes somebody hostage in a bank, right.
- 38:02Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's a dramatization of a
- 38:07Speaker 2: story that was actually told in a documentary film called
- 38:11Speaker 2: dead Man's Line. And the reason why it's called dead
- 38:14Speaker 2: Man's Line and dead Man's Wire in the first place
- 38:16Speaker 2: is the kidnapper Tony Curatus Curtis. He wired up a
- 38:26Speaker 2: shotgun to his hostage's head so that if the hostage
- 38:31Speaker 2: tried to run away, or if someone tried to pull
- 38:34Speaker 2: Tony away from the gun, or if someone were to
- 38:37Speaker 2: shoot him, there was a wire that went from the
- 38:41Speaker 2: head of his hostage to the trigger of the shotgun,
- 38:45Speaker 2: and the shotgun would fire. So it's a dead man's switch, right,
- 38:49Speaker 2: It's the idea that the switch will be activated if
- 38:52Speaker 2: the person holding the thing were to let go for
- 38:56Speaker 2: whatever reason.
- 38:58Speaker 1: It looks. I mean, it is one of the things
- 39:01Speaker 1: that I think fits the least into our lineup. It
- 39:04Speaker 1: looks well done. The reason that I included it as
- 39:06Speaker 1: in things that don't really fit is because it has
- 39:09Speaker 1: a cat. It has a pretty geeky cast. Daker Montgomery
- 39:14Speaker 1: who was one of the kids in Stranger Things season two,
- 39:20Speaker 1: the villainous kid al Pacino, Bill Scarsguard who was the
- 39:24Speaker 1: clown in it, Carrie Elwis from Princess Brian and Saw
- 39:28Speaker 1: and Ella Enchanted, Coleman Domingo who is going to be
- 39:32Speaker 1: in The Running Man, and a bunch of others. So like,
- 39:36Speaker 1: what an interesting cast for this story.
- 39:39Speaker 2: Yeah, and and again it's based off something that really
- 39:42Speaker 2: did happen. The actual the actual story behind all this
- 39:46Speaker 2: is fascinating. The guy it wasn't like he was just
- 39:49Speaker 2: taking a hostage to take a hostage. He had fallen
- 39:52Speaker 2: behind on mortgage payments. He was asking his broker to
- 39:56Speaker 2: give him an extension. The broker refused. The guy believed
- 40:00Speaker 2: that the broker was actually trying to get hold of
- 40:02Speaker 2: his land because the value of the land was going up.
- 40:06Speaker 2: So like, there was this whole thing about a guy
- 40:09Speaker 2: feeling like he was being pushed around by a system,
- 40:13Speaker 2: despite the fact that he was working very hard and
- 40:15Speaker 2: trying to do the right thing, and then he kind
- 40:17Speaker 2: of snaps. Like the actual case had him being found
- 40:22Speaker 2: not guilty by reason of insanity. It was a really
- 40:27Speaker 2: wild story. The fellow passed away several years ago. Now
- 40:32Speaker 2: I think he was like seventy two or something when
- 40:34Speaker 2: he passed away. But yeah, it looks like a well
- 40:39Speaker 2: made movie telling a story that I'm sure a lot
- 40:41Speaker 2: of people have forgot about, even though that documentary came
- 40:44Speaker 2: out in twenty eighteen, Like it wasn't that long ago. Yeah,
- 40:47Speaker 2: this comes out January ninth.
- 40:50Speaker 1: Sometimes real life is just as interesting or strange as fiction,
- 40:54Speaker 1: so that is true. Next, we have a trailer for
- 40:58Speaker 1: tinsel Town, Yeah, which feels like a sister sequel to Scrooged.
- 41:04Speaker 2: To me, it's it's odd. It feels like it's two
- 41:07Speaker 2: different subgenres of comedy being smashed together, larger or drunk
- 41:12Speaker 2: glider style. I'm gonna be saying that a lot. Yeah,
- 41:17Speaker 2: it's a It's a film in which an actor who
- 41:20Speaker 2: has alienated everyone in Hollywood can't get work in film anymore,
- 41:25Speaker 2: so his agent sends him to England to act in
- 41:29Speaker 2: a pantomime Christmas play and so it's sort of fish
- 41:34Speaker 2: out of water. There's that element, right, But then there's
- 41:37Speaker 2: also you find out he's kind of a deadbeat dad
- 41:41Speaker 2: and he's sort of reuniting with his daughter, his young daughter,
- 41:47Speaker 2: she's a child and learning what it is to be
- 41:50Speaker 2: an actual dad, and that like he finds joy in
- 41:54Speaker 2: this relationship now. So it's it's got a little bit
- 41:57Speaker 2: of the Christmas happy fun time feeling, you know, broken
- 42:01Speaker 2: family mending itself kind of thing. Plus Hollywood actor just
- 42:07Speaker 2: completely out of place in an English pantomime thing.
- 42:11Speaker 1: I mean, it does it having a very young daughter.
- 42:15Speaker 1: At first, I was like key for Sutherland's fifty eight,
- 42:17Speaker 1: but that does fit with a lot of like there
- 42:19Speaker 1: are a lot of older actors. There are a lot
- 42:21Speaker 1: of actors who have children at a later age because
- 42:24Speaker 1: they spend their early years developing their career.
- 42:27Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. I also had I had a hard time
- 42:32Speaker 2: recognizing Keefer Sutherland at first when I was watching this,
- 42:35Speaker 2: I was like, I feel like I should know who
- 42:37Speaker 2: this actor is, but I can't tell who it is.
- 42:39Speaker 2: And then later on like it kind of looks like
- 42:40Speaker 2: Keefer Sutherland, and then when it was revealed, like it
- 42:43Speaker 2: is keeper Sutherland I'm like, he looks different to me?
- 42:46Speaker 1: Now, yeah, he he doesn't look bad it is. At first,
- 42:51Speaker 1: I was also like, did because Rebel Wilson I think
- 42:54Speaker 1: plays the romantic interest? And I was like, is she
- 42:59Speaker 1: like thirty? Because that would bother me. She's forty five.
- 43:02Speaker 1: That's an okay, age difference. Let you get to those ages.
- 43:06Speaker 2: It's fine. Guess what date? This movie comes out on?
- 43:12Speaker 1: December fifth?
- 43:13Speaker 2: There you go.
- 43:15Speaker 1: Yay, did we talk about what did? What Man's Wire comes.
- 43:19Speaker 2: Out January ninth? Yeah? I mentioned?
- 43:21Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, okay. Next we have a
- 43:24Speaker 1: trailer for one hundred Nights of Hero Yeah.
- 43:27Speaker 2: Wait, this could have fit in our lineup kind of
- 43:31Speaker 2: because it's more of a historical fantasy fantasy but light
- 43:37Speaker 2: on fantasy, and it's not like talking about magic or
- 43:40Speaker 2: anything like that. But it is based off a graphic novel.
- 43:46Speaker 2: Oh interesting, which in turns that graphic novel was based
- 43:49Speaker 2: off Arabian Nights.
- 43:51Speaker 1: So oh okay, I didn't know that. It is about
- 43:55Speaker 1: a woman who's discontent in her marriage and her husband
- 43:58Speaker 1: talks with his man's or somebody else one of his
- 44:01Speaker 1: friends and says, hey, if you can seduce my wife
- 44:05Speaker 1: in one hundred nights, you can have my house and
- 44:07Speaker 1: her and everything else.
- 44:09Speaker 2: Yeah, it's essentially like like haughty, snooty husband who has
- 44:13Speaker 2: nothing to do with his wife is testing her fidelity
- 44:16Speaker 2: and he puts he puts this this dude bro friend
- 44:20Speaker 2: of his in charge of attempting to seduce her. Meanwhile,
- 44:25Speaker 2: the wife, who of course has no idea about this arrangement,
- 44:30Speaker 2: is wondering what she has done to alienate her husband
- 44:34Speaker 2: who doesn't want anything to do with her, and is
- 44:36Speaker 2: also kind of finding the female maid a little intriguing.
- 44:43Speaker 2: So there's like there's like some queer storytelling going on
- 44:46Speaker 2: here too, so makes it a little more complicated.
- 44:50Speaker 1: And the title one hundred Nights of Hero. The maid
- 44:53Speaker 1: servant's name is Hero. I think the wife's name is Cherry,
- 44:56Speaker 1: and it's it's the maid servant telling the wife a
- 44:59Speaker 1: story every night to kind of protect her from this
- 45:01Speaker 1: plot going on. Yeah, so uh interesting.
- 45:06Speaker 2: Guess when it comes out Ariel.
- 45:11Speaker 1: December. That's correct, My goodness, how am I going to
- 45:19Speaker 1: pick between Dinseltown one hundred Nights of heroin.
- 45:23Speaker 2: Fh hall Uh, don't get ahead of yourself. We've got
- 45:26Speaker 2: a lot more show to get through. However, the next
- 45:33Speaker 2: the next one we're talking about, which is a Tropia,
- 45:35Speaker 2: does not come out on December fifth. I will say
- 45:37Speaker 2: that right at the front.
- 45:39Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a weird like political comment commentary comedy
- 45:45Speaker 1: about two people who fall in love who are cast
- 45:48Speaker 1: in a war simulation reenactment sort of a thing.
- 45:53Speaker 2: Yeah, it's supposed to be a recreation of like a
- 45:57Speaker 2: Middle Eastern village and it's peopled by improvisational actors who
- 46:02Speaker 2: are playing villagers or insurgents or whatever, and army units
- 46:07Speaker 2: trained there before they are deployed in the actual Middle East.
- 46:11Speaker 2: And Aliah Shawkat is playing one of the actors. She's
- 46:15Speaker 2: trying desperately to become a legitimate actress, but at the
- 46:19Speaker 2: time being she's got work in this a Tropia simulation thing.
- 46:26Speaker 2: The town also has like an affects crew that's there
- 46:29Speaker 2: to try and make different things happen, like explosions and
- 46:32Speaker 2: stuff to simulate wartime events. So there's some comedy. It's
- 46:38Speaker 2: a little bit of tropic thunder kind of comedy going
- 46:41Speaker 2: on here. I did see some early takes based off
- 46:48Speaker 2: festival screenings that sadly are kind of at best mixed
- 46:55Speaker 2: mixed to negative. So maybe this one's doesn't quite click
- 47:02Speaker 2: for a lot of people.
- 47:04Speaker 1: That doesn't surprise me. It is sad because I do
- 47:06Speaker 1: love Alia Shocket a lot.
- 47:09Speaker 2: Yeah, this one, this one does not come out December fifth.
- 47:12Speaker 2: You'll have to wait seven whole days for it to
- 47:14Speaker 2: come out in December twelfth.
- 47:16Speaker 1: Oh what fun is the name of our next trailer?
- 47:19Speaker 2: There you go. I saw this and then I was like,
- 47:27Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to add it to the list. I
- 47:29Speaker 2: don't want to add it to the list, but I
- 47:32Speaker 2: kind of have to because it charmed me.
- 47:35Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know it is. It is interesting because
- 47:38Speaker 1: we add a lot of horror stuff, but when we
- 47:40Speaker 1: get to the holidays, we do try to cherry pick
- 47:44Speaker 1: interesting Christmas holiday type movies.
- 47:49Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's just so many cooky cutter Yeah yeah, yeah.
- 47:52Speaker 2: A lot of them follow, like the Hallmark movie formula,
- 47:55Speaker 2: right and Ariel, I hope you do get a chance
- 47:59Speaker 2: to go see y'all Mark when it's playing later in
- 48:02Speaker 2: your neck of the woods later this month, because that's
- 48:05Speaker 2: all about, you know, pointing out and making fun of
- 48:09Speaker 2: the formula that Hallmark and to a great extent, Netflix
- 48:13Speaker 2: holiday movies follow. This one is a little different, and
- 48:16Speaker 2: it also was co written and directed by Michael Showalter.
- 48:24Speaker 2: He I know him best as a member of the
- 48:26Speaker 2: State Sketch Comedy group from back in the nineties, but
- 48:31Speaker 2: he also you know, he's written a lot of other comedies,
- 48:33Speaker 2: including Wet Hot American Summer. This, I would argue, feels
- 48:37Speaker 2: like it's the most mainstream of his comedy. Like a
- 48:41Speaker 2: lot of his comedies kind of appeal to a niche
- 48:45Speaker 2: comedy audience, this one, I feel is has more mainstream appeal.
- 48:49Speaker 1: I agree. This This story is about a mom. She's
- 48:55Speaker 1: an older mom. It's played by Michelle Pfeiffer, and the
- 48:57Speaker 1: dad is Dennis Leary who does so much for her
- 49:01Speaker 1: kids and just feels like she never gets the recognition.
- 49:04Speaker 1: And so she asks her kids to submit her to
- 49:06Speaker 1: a best mom competition for the holidays, and they forget,
- 49:09Speaker 1: and so she goes and she goes on an adventure
- 49:12Speaker 1: by her own and it looks Yeah, it just looks
- 49:16Speaker 1: like a lot of fun and very relatable.
- 49:18Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, like like her. She's she's busy getting her
- 49:22Speaker 2: whole family out the door so they can go to
- 49:24Speaker 2: a holiday music performance thing. And in the process of
- 49:29Speaker 2: getting them out the door, they forget her and leave
- 49:31Speaker 2: her behind, and that's when she's just had enough and
- 49:33Speaker 2: she says, you know what, I'm submitting myself to this
- 49:36Speaker 2: time alone, to this exactly as a reversed home alone.
- 49:40Speaker 2: And she decides that she's going to go to this
- 49:42Speaker 2: Oprah like show. Uh, it's it's it's very obviously inspired
- 49:47Speaker 2: by Oprah uh play with the host playing being played
- 49:52Speaker 2: by Eva Longoria, and that she's going to go there
- 49:55Speaker 2: and have her own Christmas fun, leaving her family lay behind.
- 50:00Speaker 2: And of course her family totally freaks out not knowing
- 50:03Speaker 2: where she's gone because they never talked to her properly.
- 50:06Speaker 1: Yeah, this cast is insane beyond just Michelle Pfeiffer and
- 50:10Speaker 1: Eva Longoria and Dennis Leary. It's got Chloe Grace Moritz,
- 50:13Speaker 1: who I believe was Hit Girl.
- 50:15Speaker 2: Yep.
- 50:17Speaker 1: It's got Felicity Jones, Danielle Brooks, who is in who
- 50:21Speaker 1: is it was in? Peacemaker, Maud Apatoe, Jason Schwartzman, Rose Abdu,
- 50:27Speaker 1: who I absolutely love, Yeah, mainly, mainly mainly I love
- 50:32Speaker 1: her from Gilmore. Girl's gonna be real, honest.
- 50:35Speaker 2: Uh, this it looks fun. It looks like a fun
- 50:39Speaker 2: movie like I don't normally go for these kind of films,
- 50:42Speaker 2: like they're just not my thing usually, but this trailer
- 50:46Speaker 2: I was like, you know, I could watch this. I
- 50:48Speaker 2: think I like watching a movie about a mom who
- 50:52Speaker 2: is clearly the glue and the engine that makes the
- 50:55Speaker 2: family work, just being finally like you know what, screw
- 50:59Speaker 2: all of you, I'm doing this for me. I'm like,
- 51:02Speaker 2: you do do that? Do that thing?
- 51:05Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, there's a great bit in the trailer where
- 51:09Speaker 1: she was like, I just want my kids to say
- 51:11Speaker 1: those three words, and even long Grey is like I
- 51:13Speaker 1: love you. She's like, no, let me help.
- 51:16Speaker 2: Yeah. I also like the bit about where so it
- 51:18Speaker 2: was like I can't decide if she's iconic or a
- 51:20Speaker 2: train wreck, and two of the women go iconic iconic.
- 51:24Speaker 1: Yeah. It feels like and obviously we haven't watched the movie,
- 51:26Speaker 1: but it does feel like while she is doing this
- 51:28Speaker 1: for herself, she's not just abandoning her family forever, you know,
- 51:32Speaker 1: and self care is important and so I love I
- 51:36Speaker 1: love it. I'm and I like the state and I
- 51:38Speaker 1: like stuff that the people from the state have done.
- 51:40Speaker 1: So I'm excited.
- 51:42Speaker 2: Yeah, and this comes out December third, so two days
- 51:46Speaker 2: before everything else comes out. Uh yeah, and it comes
- 51:49Speaker 2: out on Prime Video, so you can watch it on
- 51:52Speaker 2: Prime Video starting December third.
- 51:54Speaker 1: I have that one. Okay. The next trailer looks a
- 51:57Speaker 1: little less fun to me. It's for a movie called
- 51:59Speaker 1: The Two Testament of Ann Lee.
- 52:01Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is telling the story of a real
- 52:04Speaker 2: historic personage and Lee. She was the founder of the
- 52:09Speaker 2: Shaker's religious movement. And Shakers are very similar to Quakers,
- 52:15Speaker 2: like they're pacifists and they believe in gender equality and
- 52:18Speaker 2: community and lots of really upstanding things. But the Shakers
- 52:23Speaker 2: were also known for incorporating vocalizations, singing and dancing and
- 52:30Speaker 2: shaking in their religious practices, in the belief that through
- 52:36Speaker 2: those actions you were shedding sin that you had been accumulating,
- 52:41Speaker 2: and that this was part of, you know, like the
- 52:43Speaker 2: religious experience. So this is a dramatization of a real person.
- 52:49Speaker 2: Amanda Sefried is playing and Lee, and according to what
- 52:53Speaker 2: I've been seeing coming from like the various festivals where
- 52:55Speaker 2: this is played, it's her best performance to date. And
- 53:01Speaker 2: the movie itself looks really well made, Like it's not
- 53:06Speaker 2: super colorful. Everything's pretty dark and muted, but it looks
- 53:13Speaker 2: like the camera work and the choreography look really intense,
- 53:18Speaker 2: and I thought, wow, this is someone I don't know
- 53:23Speaker 2: much about. I am not that familiar with the Shakers,
- 53:26Speaker 2: so seeing this made me intrigued.
- 53:29Speaker 1: Yeah, neither am I like I looked a little bit
- 53:32Speaker 1: into them. It's also they were Celibacy was a core
- 53:36Speaker 1: tenant of Shaking.
- 53:37Speaker 2: Yes, that's good.
- 53:38Speaker 1: Didn't mean they didn't have families, but they had communal families,
- 53:40Speaker 1: and they would adopt, which is really just interesting.
- 53:44Speaker 2: And they would raise children to the age of adulthood
- 53:48Speaker 2: and then give them as adults the option of either
- 53:52Speaker 2: leaving the community or staying and being part of it.
- 53:56Speaker 2: So the idea was that people would have the freedom
- 53:59Speaker 2: of choice whether they stayed or if they left to
- 54:02Speaker 2: go find a life somewhere else. Although you could argue
- 54:06Speaker 2: that indoctrination and lots of other elements kind of makes
- 54:09Speaker 2: that a lot more complicated because not everything is black
- 54:11Speaker 2: and white.
- 54:12Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and you know, I don't I don't necessarily
- 54:15Speaker 1: believe that not being celibate is a source of sin, so,
- 54:21Speaker 1: you know, as a person of faith. So it is,
- 54:24Speaker 1: it is interesting, It is, it is super interesting. I
- 54:28Speaker 1: don't I say it doesn't look fun, but it does
- 54:30Speaker 1: look very well done. It might be something that I
- 54:33Speaker 1: watch at some point.
- 54:34Speaker 2: Yeah, this I would be seeing this as an intellectual exercise.
- 54:39Speaker 2: I think like this, this is not something that I
- 54:41Speaker 2: would think of as entertainment, but rather to enlighten myself
- 54:46Speaker 2: and learn more about a people and a time of
- 54:49Speaker 2: history that I'm not as familiar with.
- 54:52Speaker 1: Yes, for sure, guess.
- 54:53Speaker 2: When it comes out.
- 54:55Speaker 1: December third, fifth, December fifth, thirteenth fifth.
- 54:59Speaker 2: Don't don't mess aroun on the aeril you have one
- 55:01Speaker 2: job on this? You say December fifth.
- 55:03Speaker 1: When I asked you, I wish I had one job.
- 55:06Speaker 1: I wish my only job was.
- 55:07Speaker 2: On said I said, on this, which is not true.
- 55:13Speaker 1: I don't want to give up acting to just remember
- 55:15Speaker 1: the date December.
- 55:16Speaker 2: Fifth, right, But that is when this stares out.
- 55:18Speaker 1: Remember remember the fifth of December.
- 55:22Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 55:23Speaker 1: The last thing and stuff that doesn't fit vaguely does
- 55:26Speaker 1: because it's it's Western, that's geek adjacent is for Frontier
- 55:33Speaker 1: Crucible starring William H. Macy.
- 55:36Speaker 2: Well, he's in it. He plays a supporting character. No,
- 55:41Speaker 2: it's starring Thomas Jane. But it also has a problematic
- 55:45Speaker 2: to put it lately, actor in it. This is the
- 55:48Speaker 2: the triumphant return to acting for One Army Hammer, whom
- 55:53Speaker 2: you may remember, back in twenty twenty one was the
- 55:56Speaker 2: subject of multiple allegations from multiple women who said that
- 56:00Speaker 2: he assaulted them, and he kind of went without work
- 56:04Speaker 2: for quite some time, and now he's back in this film,
- 56:06Speaker 2: which I'm not here to judge the filmmakers for this
- 56:11Speaker 2: decision or whatever I will say. I initially had high
- 56:17Speaker 2: hopes because I saw it was one of the producers
- 56:19Speaker 2: with someone who was a producer on a movie called
- 56:21Speaker 2: Bone Tomahawk. Bone Tomahawk is a Western horror movie, and
- 56:26Speaker 2: it is intense and disturbing, and it has your major
- 56:29Speaker 2: ick in it, Ariels. It is not a movie you
- 56:32Speaker 2: would you should ever ever even consider watching. Yeah, No,
- 56:37Speaker 2: it's it has one of your absolute nos in it.
- 56:40Speaker 2: If I said, what's eating you, it would make sense.
- 56:44Speaker 2: So in this grape in Yeah, In this Gilbert Grape
- 56:47Speaker 2: is eating you. Leonardo DiCaprio is eating you. Yeah. But
- 56:54Speaker 2: this is this is a an adaptation of a novel
- 56:57Speaker 2: that came out in nineteen sixty one, and I would
- 56:59Speaker 2: argue you it feels like that in the sense of
- 57:04Speaker 2: it feels like a depiction of the mythos of the
- 57:06Speaker 2: cowboy as we as we imagined it back in the
- 57:10Speaker 2: nineteen sixties, right, Like, it has that very kind of
- 57:15Speaker 2: like stoic, implacable, capable hero character who's got a dark past,
- 57:23Speaker 2: like all that kind of stuff. But the basic plot
- 57:28Speaker 2: is this soldier is hired to escort a wagon full
- 57:33Speaker 2: of medical supplies to an area that's going to require
- 57:37Speaker 2: crossing dangerous territory that's mostly inhabited by Native Americans who
- 57:42Speaker 2: are understandably upset that all of their land keeps getting taken,
- 57:48Speaker 2: and so they also encounter some bandits along the way.
- 57:51Speaker 2: It becomes kind of a survival story and also who
- 57:54Speaker 2: can trust whom sort of thing. But just the fact
- 57:57Speaker 2: that Army hammers in this tells me that I am
- 57:59Speaker 2: not going to see it because I just don't want
- 58:00Speaker 2: to support work that he's part of, not judging anyone
- 58:05Speaker 2: who does. Like, if Westerns are your thing, and this
- 58:07Speaker 2: really sounds interesting to you, check it out, maybe it's
- 58:09Speaker 2: something you really want to see. I just think it
- 58:12Speaker 2: looks a little too simplistic, and uh, it has someone
- 58:15Speaker 2: I don't like in it. And it comes out December fifth.
- 58:20Speaker 1: Yes, December fifth, I will say I I don't follow
- 58:24Speaker 1: follow Army Hammer enough to recognize him, so I didn't
- 58:26Speaker 1: recognize that. So thank you for pointing it out. That
- 58:30Speaker 1: is all we have for stuff what mostly kind of
- 58:34Speaker 1: don't fit. Also, I love the note that you put
- 58:37Speaker 1: for Frontier Crucible where you're like trigger warnings, sp spider cruelty,
- 58:41Speaker 1: aeriel because wow, what a way to give me two
- 58:45Speaker 1: conflicting emotions at the same time, because I hate spiders,
- 58:49Speaker 1: but I hate animal cruelty as well.
- 58:51Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't think you wanted to watch someone tearing
- 58:54Speaker 2: the legs off of Tarantula.
- 58:56Speaker 1: No, but I did watch this trailer. I almost put
- 58:59Speaker 1: it into the lineup and and I didn't so, but
- 59:03Speaker 1: I just thought it was funny.
- 59:05Speaker 2: Yeah. I also thought the color grading of this trailer
- 59:08Speaker 2: was weird, like everything looked artificial to me. Yes, technicolor yeah, yeah,
- 59:14Speaker 2: like really saturated. Anyway, we now move into the playful
- 59:19Speaker 2: little segment called John Boys Horror Hutch, and as always,
- 59:22Speaker 2: I will ask my beloved co host Ariel did you
- 59:25Speaker 2: watch any of these trailers?
- 59:26Speaker 1: No? I didn't have time. Yeah, it was a weird
- 59:31Speaker 1: week for me, and so I did a lot of
- 59:35Speaker 1: catch up and I was like I'll just skip these.
- 59:37Speaker 2: Yeah, you could have probably watched all three of these.
- 59:41Speaker 2: I will say that the middle one, well not a
- 59:44Speaker 2: horror movie, was particularly violent and gory and might have
- 59:47Speaker 2: been the hardest one for you to watch, and the
- 59:48Speaker 2: other two are horror movies and you would have been fine.
- 59:52Speaker 2: But starting off, we have portraits of the Apocalypse. This
- 59:57Speaker 2: is another foreign horror film that it was made in
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: Argentina and it's the story of a zombie outbreak, because
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: those are still big and horror stories. I guess a
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: zombie outbreak that happens in Buenos Aires. There are like
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: four intertwining stories that are playing out during this time
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: of zombie apocalypse. And that's all the information I really have.
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: There's not really a release date listed with the trailer.
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: This is a movie that was acquired by Black Mandala,
- 1:00:33Speaker 2: which I think it's out of New Zealand, but it's
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: a company that has been buying up a lot of
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: foreign horror movies, especially low budget foreign horror movies, for distribution.
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: And I will say the quality of movies represented by
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: Black Mandala covers a pretty wide spectrum. It kind of
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: makes me think of Blumhouse, where you occasionally get a
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: really good movie out of Blumhouse, but you also get
- 1:00:59Speaker 2: a lot that are not as good, you know, that
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: feel like it feels like they were maybe part of
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: a deal, like hey, buy six and you get this
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: movie for free. But we'll see, Like this one looks
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: like it's okay, does look low budget, but the trailer
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: also was fairly no pun intended bare bones. Next we
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: have a trailer for a French film called Reflection in
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: a Dead Diamond. This is technically a thriller, not a
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: horror movie, but it's extremely violent. It also reminds me
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: of Italian Jollo movies, but it's really paying tribute to
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: the spy film genre of the nineteen sixties, like that
- 1:01:46Speaker 2: over the top like euro film spy film stuff, so
- 1:01:52Speaker 2: not just James Bond, but stuff like Dia Balique and
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: stuff like that. So it follows a retired spy, and
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: retired spy has like a next door neighbor or roommate
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: or something that reminds him of his past, so he
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: is reflecting on his spy adventures from his youth, and
- 1:02:12Speaker 2: then other stuff is happening where you get the feeling
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: like the actions of his past are now having consequences
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: in his present and he has to deal with them.
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: This is the one that was super duper violent. Also
- 1:02:24Speaker 2: has a lot of very trippy kind of imagery and
- 1:02:29Speaker 2: camera tricks and lighting and that stuff. So it feels
- 1:02:33Speaker 2: like it came out of the six late sixties, like
- 1:02:35Speaker 2: it has that sort of psychedelic twist to it. Shutter
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: acquired the distribution rights in North America. It's already played
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: in France, I believe, but it comes out on Shutter.
- 1:02:47Speaker 1: On December fifth.
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: There you are, okay. I was wondering if you're going
- 1:02:52Speaker 2: to wake up or not? Okay, next up, and.
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: I was awake. I was looking into the next one.
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: The last one I had is called Afraid. Question mark
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: like it actually has a question mark at the end
- 1:03:04Speaker 2: of the.
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: Yes I am yeah.
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: It's also important to have that question mark because I
- 1:03:09Speaker 2: don't know if you remember this, Aeriel, but last year
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: we got a movie called Afraid, where the AI was
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: capitalized because it was the movie about a family where
- 1:03:18Speaker 2: they have household AI that goes bunkers and tried to
- 1:03:21Speaker 2: kill them.
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: Afraid Which one which which movie about AI?
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: Afraid? It's called Afraid?
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: Yes, no, I know. It'd had a John Show and
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: David desmal Chain.
- 1:03:34Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. Yes, So this one that makes that makes
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: looking up information about this afraid challenging because you keep
- 1:03:42Speaker 2: finding stuff from the movie that came out last year,
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: not for what's coming out this year. But this is
- 1:03:48Speaker 2: another low budget horror movie. It it follows a trope
- 1:03:53Speaker 2: that everyone's familiar with. Group of young people go out
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: to party at a cabin in the woods. In this case,
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: they are playing a game called what Are You Afraid Of?
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: It's kind of like a truth or Dare style game,
- 1:04:08Speaker 2: but as they play, it becomes clear someone sinister is
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: targeting them and is going to enact violence upon them.
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: It feels like a real throwback. The trailer definitely feels
- 1:04:19Speaker 2: like a throwback. There's a narrator doing voiceover on the trailer,
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: which you know, we don't get that often, but it's saying,
- 1:04:26Speaker 2: you know, the narrator is saying stuff like the game
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: started as a joke, now it's life or death, and
- 1:04:34Speaker 2: you're like, no one does this anymore? What is happening?
- 1:04:39Speaker 2: The sound design seems pretty questionable, like I wouldn't be
- 1:04:42Speaker 2: surprised to find out they shot this on smartphones, but
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: maybe they didn't. Maybe it was DSLR cameras or something.
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: But it's coming to digital streaming and DVD on December sixteenth,
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: so not getting a theatrical release as far as I
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: can tell. But it was interesting, which is why I
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: decided to put it into my little horror hutch. And
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: now I'm done with hutching.
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: Nice, so we'll exit your little horror hutch and go
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: into the woods. We're into our actual show notes, and
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: the first thing we've got to talk about is we
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: got a first look at Wildwood from Laika Studioslika, Yeahka,
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: which we've kind we talked about it happening in the
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: thirty seconds or less in the past, but now we
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: get to kind of see what's going on with it.
- 1:05:30Speaker 2: Yeah Soka. They're known for their stop motion animation, like
- 1:05:34Speaker 2: Coraline and ParaNorman, that kind of stuff, and Wildwood is
- 1:05:39Speaker 2: a fantasy film in which a young girl has to
- 1:05:44Speaker 2: go searching for her baby brother. It's in an area
- 1:05:49Speaker 2: that's adjacent to like Portland, Oregon, but it takes place
- 1:05:54Speaker 2: in a magical, wooded realm. And the featurette that we
- 1:05:59Speaker 2: watch was not so much a trailer. It was more
- 1:06:02Speaker 2: like showing behind the scenes how they were able to
- 1:06:05Speaker 2: create an important character in the story, a guardian giant eagle,
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: and the model and puppetry they used to bring that
- 1:06:16Speaker 2: character to life. It's incredibly impressive.
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: It is is Portland a part of the Pacific Northwest? Yes, okay, cool.
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: So this is a way to take that scary mythical
- 1:06:28Speaker 1: area and make it a little less scary.
- 1:06:31Speaker 2: I don't find it scary. I guess if you're afraid
- 1:06:34Speaker 2: of hipsters.
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: There's a whole there's a whole bunch of like fictional
- 1:06:39Speaker 1: podcasts that I've listened to, where like there's a bunch
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: of weird stuff that happens in the woods up there.
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: So it's because of all the coffee. Honestly, it's just
- 1:06:46Speaker 2: you get that caffeinated, you start doing weird stuff in
- 1:06:49Speaker 2: the woods.
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's probably accurate. Yeah, I think it looks
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: very interesting. I never watched Coraline or Paranormando. I'm familiar
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: with bold.
- 1:07:00Speaker 2: Did you say Cubo in the Two Strings?
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: I didn't. That is high on my list of things
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: to watch. I know I need to so watch that.
- 1:07:07Speaker 2: It's so good.
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: It hit it a time where I wasn't watching a
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: lot of a whole lot of stuff.
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: So sure, I think Coraline is great too. It's got
- 1:07:15Speaker 2: they might be giant song right smack dab in the
- 1:07:17Speaker 2: middle of it, so I was guaranteed to love it already.
- 1:07:21Speaker 2: I like like a stuff. I think that their artistry
- 1:07:25Speaker 2: is amazing. They tend to pick really good projects, very
- 1:07:29Speaker 2: imaginative things that suits their art style extremely well. So
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: I'm eager to see more of Wildwood as we get
- 1:07:39Speaker 2: closer to release, which I don't know when the release is,
- 1:07:42Speaker 2: by the.
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: Way, December fifth, No, I have no idea. I'm interested
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: in this as well. The next trailer we've got is
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: for Last Samurai Standing, which to me feels like the
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: Last Sammurai Meet Squid.
- 1:07:56Speaker 2: Games, Yeah, or Battle Royale something like that. Like it's
- 1:08:02Speaker 2: a story. Apparently this is based off a manga, so
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: I was unfamiliar with the manga. I didn't even know
- 1:08:08Speaker 2: it existed, and I saw this trailer and it looks
- 1:08:12Speaker 2: like very action packed and well choreographed. The basic story
- 1:08:17Speaker 2: is that you've got this guy who is trying to
- 1:08:19Speaker 2: provide for his family. He's got a wife and child
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: and they I think they're both ill, and he enters
- 1:08:25Speaker 2: into a tournament where each member of the tournament has
- 1:08:30Speaker 2: a like a wooden tag that they wear, kind of
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: like a dog tag, and the goal is to collect
- 1:08:36Speaker 2: the tags of all the other players by any means necessary,
- 1:08:42Speaker 2: which essentially means it just becomes a big slaughter fest.
- 1:08:47Speaker 2: And the action in this trailer looks incredible.
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: It does. It looks really good. I like this kind
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: of a movie. I'm very much looking forward to it.
- 1:08:57Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a Netflix series. The first episodes drop
- 1:09:01Speaker 2: on November thirteenth.
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: I'm sad I missed it as a series. That makes
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: it even better. Yeah, I'm very excited. The next thing
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: is this is this is these first three year from
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: last week? Is the trailer for Scream seven dropped last
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: week and it it got some hate and I don't
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: understand it.
- 1:09:23Speaker 2: I don't either, because I watched it and I thought, oh,
- 1:09:25Speaker 2: it's a Scream movie.
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I was like it having watched the first three.
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: I didn't get to Scream four this year because we
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: ended up doing inscription, but having watched the first three
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: Scream movies recently, I'm like, this just feels like another
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: entry into the the milieu.
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: Yeah. This the big news about This one was that
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: Nev Campbell came back to play Sydney right because she
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: she had been absent due to pay disputes from previous films,
- 1:09:56Speaker 2: so this was her big return. And she's now a
- 1:10:00Speaker 2: mom to a teenage daughter, and the ghost Face Killer
- 1:10:06Speaker 2: is now targeting not not ghost Face Killer, but the
- 1:10:10Speaker 2: ghost Face Killer is targeting both Sydney and her daughter.
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: You get some bits of Sydney trying to give her
- 1:10:21Speaker 2: daughter direction so that she can survive being attacked by
- 1:10:24Speaker 2: this killer. Gail uh, you know. Courtney Cox's character comes
- 1:10:29Speaker 2: back as well. Yeah, and I just thought, oh, it
- 1:10:33Speaker 2: looks like a scream trailer. I didn't think it looked
- 1:10:35Speaker 2: particularly good, but I didn't think it looked bad either.
- 1:10:39Speaker 2: It just it didn't stand out. But it didn't look bad.
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: Yeah, it didn't. That's I would agree. It didn't stand out,
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: like there's nothing about it that makes me go, oh,
- 1:10:49Speaker 1: that's cool and new. But it it looked about as
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: enjoyable as every other screen movie exception maybe A three,
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: which is.
- 1:10:57Speaker 2: Your favorite art Yeah, I yeah, maybe maybe it's just
- 1:11:00Speaker 2: that it didn't give us enough sense of like the
- 1:11:04Speaker 2: other scream movies typically have some fun character stuff. And
- 1:11:07Speaker 2: this trailer really didn't have any moments of That doesn't
- 1:11:10Speaker 2: mean that it's not in the movie. They're just not
- 1:11:12Speaker 2: shown in the trailer. But maybe that's part of it,
- 1:11:15Speaker 2: because like Scream has always had kind of a snarky attitude.
- 1:11:18Speaker 2: The whole thing started off as sort of a dissertation
- 1:11:23Speaker 2: on the slasher film and dissecting all the different tropes
- 1:11:27Speaker 2: that you find in slasher movies and while still making
- 1:11:31Speaker 2: a darn good slasher movie. So maybe that's part of
- 1:11:35Speaker 2: the problem. Yeah, I mean, I will say, like, I
- 1:11:40Speaker 2: definitely feel like I need to watch the other screen
- 1:11:42Speaker 2: movies because I think I've only watched up to three.
- 1:11:45Speaker 2: I feel like I need to watch the other ones
- 1:11:47Speaker 2: before I try and tackle this one. Anyway, And while
- 1:11:51Speaker 2: again it doesn't look special, it looks fine. It comes
- 1:11:54Speaker 2: out February twenty seventh.
- 1:11:55Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say, I doing it while we're talking
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: doing a quick cursory look. Some of the hate might
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: be around the fact that there were some casting changes
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: due to actors making political commentary.
- 1:12:07Speaker 2: Yeah, that happened like a movie ago too, though, Like, yeah,
- 1:12:11Speaker 2: I know what you're talking.
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: About because it happened in the last movie.
- 1:12:13Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm pretty sure it was the last film
- 1:12:15Speaker 2: where that was first happening, and maybe they're upset that
- 1:12:18Speaker 2: that hasn't reversed.
- 1:12:20Speaker 1: Course, Campbell came back, Why can't this person.
- 1:12:24Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that was the case. Like because Jenna Ortega
- 1:12:27Speaker 2: was also part of the franchise a little earlier. She's
- 1:12:31Speaker 2: not back either, And you know, it's a part of
- 1:12:35Speaker 2: me is thankful because often when characters return, they don't
- 1:12:38Speaker 2: get to return for very long. This way, they just
- 1:12:41Speaker 2: get to live.
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, for sure, we'll see. We'll see if
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: I can make it to that many scream movies, because
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: there's so much. I can't believe I'm saying this, so
- 1:12:54Speaker 1: many other great horror stories that have been coming out
- 1:12:57Speaker 1: that are interesting and not just there for the shock factor.
- 1:13:03Speaker 1: That like, I am a little bit more into the
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: horror genre now than I was in the past.
- 1:13:09Speaker 2: Yeah, if it's a good story. One of the things
- 1:13:11Speaker 2: I meant to mention is that that when I saw Covenant,
- 1:13:14Speaker 2: it really made me think of Sinners. But I want
- 1:13:17Speaker 2: to point out Covenant was written years before Sinners came out, Like,
- 1:13:21Speaker 2: the first time it was performed was a couple of
- 1:13:23Speaker 2: years ago in New York, So it's not that it's
- 1:13:26Speaker 2: not that the playwrights saw Centers and then lifted stuff.
- 1:13:30Speaker 2: It's that both Sinners and Covenant tap into similar themes
- 1:13:35Speaker 2: and issues, and that was new to me with a
- 1:13:41Speaker 2: lot of you know, compared to a lot of the
- 1:13:44Speaker 2: horror I have consumed in my fifty years. So I agree,
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: there's like we're kind of in a horror renaissance at
- 1:13:53Speaker 2: the moment, which you know, largely was led by people
- 1:13:56Speaker 2: like Jordan Peel. So I'm I'm very pleased to see
- 1:14:01Speaker 2: horror movies that have a point of view or something
- 1:14:04Speaker 2: to say while also scaring the pants off you.
- 1:14:08Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can't quite do scaring the pants off,
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: but I can do some Hitchcock level stuff. And there's
- 1:14:12Speaker 1: a lot of great stuff coming out there too. Next,
- 1:14:15Speaker 1: we have a trailer for a movie called Resurrection, which
- 1:14:18Speaker 1: is if it looks it's not the same story, but
- 1:14:22Speaker 1: it's got like a vibe of if you took everything
- 1:14:27Speaker 1: everywhere all at once and made it so much more
- 1:14:30Speaker 1: art house.
- 1:14:31Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a Chinese film. It has got a lot
- 1:14:35Speaker 2: of dreamlike imagery in it, and I was trying to
- 1:14:40Speaker 2: figure out how I was going to describe this movie,
- 1:14:42Speaker 2: and then ultimately I decide I'm just going to quote
- 1:14:45Speaker 2: the Wikipedia article because I feel like that's going to
- 1:14:48Speaker 2: make it the easiest. So this is a quote from Wikipedia.
- 1:14:51Speaker 2: It follows Miss Shoe in the future where most of
- 1:14:55Speaker 2: humanity has lost the capacity to dream, she discovers that
- 1:14:59Speaker 2: one is human creature is still able to experience dreams.
- 1:15:03Speaker 2: She enters the monster's dreams, using her ability to perceive
- 1:15:07Speaker 2: illusions to determine the truth in its visions of Chinese history.
- 1:15:11Speaker 2: The film is divided into six chapters, with each representing
- 1:15:15Speaker 2: one of the five senses plus the mind. That's the
- 1:15:19Speaker 2: end quote. So yeah, if you're like, wow, that's weird,
- 1:15:25Speaker 2: well you need to watch the trailer because the trailer
- 1:15:27Speaker 2: it's gorgeous, like the again, the shot composition, some of
- 1:15:32Speaker 2: the little moments in it. I don't think the effects
- 1:15:35Speaker 2: are all great, but what the effect is going for
- 1:15:39Speaker 2: is fun. Like I'm thinking of the moment with a
- 1:15:44Speaker 2: lantern and a hand comes in out of frame, and
- 1:15:47Speaker 2: that little moment in the trailer I thought was delightful.
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I it looks so beautiful. We'll see if
- 1:15:58Speaker 1: I have the emotional bandwidth to watch it.
- 1:16:00Speaker 2: We'll also see if it ever comes to the United States. Currently,
- 1:16:03Speaker 2: it is coming out November twenty second in China. Nope,
- 1:16:08Speaker 2: December tenth in France. So no release date for the
- 1:16:12Speaker 2: United States that I can find yet.
- 1:16:15Speaker 1: Let me let me just I have to go on
- 1:16:17Speaker 1: this quick diet tribe right now. UK has so many
- 1:16:22Speaker 1: cool stage plays going on that I want to see,
- 1:16:26Speaker 1: and I'm like, I really hope they come to the
- 1:16:28Speaker 1: US side. The Paddington Musical looks insanely amazing.
- 1:16:33Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bear is one incredible achievement.
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: Yeah, the team behind the bear. It is a person
- 1:16:39Speaker 1: in a suit that is being puppeteered and voiced by
- 1:16:42Speaker 1: another person and it's beautiful. There's also a really beautiful
- 1:16:46Speaker 1: looking rendition of the Lion, the Witch and the wardrobe
- 1:16:49Speaker 1: that's going around right now. And then there's a third
- 1:16:52Speaker 1: one and I don't remember what, but I'm just like,
- 1:16:54Speaker 1: I have to what is it, Ariel, what is it? Oh?
- 1:16:59Speaker 1: My neighbor Totro also gone to the West End and
- 1:17:01Speaker 1: that also looks amazing.
- 1:17:02Speaker 2: I was about to say, are you thinking Avenue Q
- 1:17:04Speaker 2: because that's coming back to the West End.
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: Oh no, no, that was that was a fun that didn't.
- 1:17:11Speaker 2: Hold up well, I hear that they have revised the
- 1:17:15Speaker 2: show a little bit, but that I would argue that
- 1:17:18Speaker 2: the themes of Avenue Q probably apply even more now
- 1:17:22Speaker 2: than they did when it first came out.
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: But maybe it just hurt. The satire hurts a little
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: bit more.
- 1:17:27Speaker 2: Well, when when one of the earliest songs says what
- 1:17:29Speaker 2: do you do with a ba? In English? And that's
- 1:17:32Speaker 2: the degree I have, I can understand where the pain
- 1:17:35Speaker 2: can be felt. Yeah, we also got I almost took
- 1:17:41Speaker 2: this off because we have talked about it before, but
- 1:17:43Speaker 2: we got a full trailer for now you See Me,
- 1:17:45Speaker 2: Now you Don't. That's the newest and the Now You
- 1:17:48Speaker 2: See Me franchise. I included it here mostly so I
- 1:17:53Speaker 2: could be snarky and talk about how this is essentially
- 1:17:56Speaker 2: The Fast and the Furious, except instead of street racing
- 1:17:59Speaker 2: at stage.
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: Yeah, which might appeal to some people. I do love
- 1:18:04Speaker 1: a good pen in teller fool me episode like I
- 1:18:09Speaker 1: used to like to try to do sleight of hand
- 1:18:10Speaker 1: when I was a kid, so doesn't fully unappeal to me.
- 1:18:15Speaker 1: But the like stage magic, the concept. But the movies
- 1:18:19Speaker 1: have not appealed to me. I have not seen them,
- 1:18:22Speaker 1: and no I.
- 1:18:22Speaker 2: Won't yeah, yeah, I don't have any real desire to
- 1:18:28Speaker 2: see it either. It's I don't think it's I don't
- 1:18:33Speaker 2: think they're necessarily bad. Movies are just not for me
- 1:18:36Speaker 2: because having done a little stage magic myself, I just
- 1:18:41Speaker 2: find it so silly that I can't I can't suspend
- 1:18:46Speaker 2: my disbelief enough for it, right, Like, yeah, you might
- 1:18:50Speaker 2: as well just say they can actually do magic, because
- 1:18:52Speaker 2: that's the level these movies are doing, where you're like, yeah, yeah,
- 1:18:57Speaker 2: even the things that are technically possible here, for them
- 1:19:00Speaker 2: to work flawlessly in an environment where you don't have
- 1:19:03Speaker 2: one hundred percent control is like so outside the realm
- 1:19:08Speaker 2: of probability that it might as well be impossible. I
- 1:19:11Speaker 2: can't get past that, and you have to be able
- 1:19:15Speaker 2: to do that in order to be able to watch
- 1:19:17Speaker 2: these movies. This comes out November fourteenth. I guess this
- 1:19:20Speaker 2: is where I also tell Ariel that from here on out,
- 1:19:22Speaker 2: we don't have to worry about December fifth. Oh, December
- 1:19:25Speaker 2: fifth was like all the other stuff.
- 1:19:27Speaker 1: I have to remember it. No, if I want to
- 1:19:29Speaker 1: watch it, that's fine. If I want to watch a
- 1:19:31Speaker 1: magic movie, I'll just go watch The Prestige again. Yeah,
- 1:19:34Speaker 1: that one was Okay.
- 1:19:36Speaker 2: There was that other one with Steve Carrell, the comedy
- 1:19:38Speaker 2: one that I watched once. Simon Pegg was in one.
- 1:19:42Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, I don't.
- 1:19:44Speaker 1: Know, Like there's a new movie about Saint Fried and
- 1:19:46Speaker 1: Roy coming out at some point, if it hasn't already.
- 1:19:49Speaker 2: Okay, So you have options, is what we're saying. If
- 1:19:54Speaker 2: you are a filmmaker, you also have options. You could
- 1:19:56Speaker 2: make a movie using incredibly expensive equipment and a huge crew,
- 1:20:03Speaker 2: or you could invest in a handheld gimbal, an iPhone
- 1:20:08Speaker 2: seventeen and a few actors and try and shoot a
- 1:20:11Speaker 2: movie just with that.
- 1:20:14Speaker 1: Yeah. Sometimes some really cool stuff comes out of some
- 1:20:17Speaker 1: very small budgets. And this one looks pretty interesting to me.
- 1:20:20Speaker 1: It's called Blue Harvest. It's the entire Earth stops being
- 1:20:27Speaker 1: able to speak at some point, all the humans, and
- 1:20:31Speaker 1: then some years later aliens start abducting them.
- 1:20:36Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Apparently there's some sort of alien invasion that
- 1:20:40Speaker 2: either causes or coincides with everyone being unable to speak,
- 1:20:46Speaker 2: which also makes it a lot easier for you to
- 1:20:48Speaker 2: shoot a movie without having to worry about hooking people
- 1:20:50Speaker 2: up for sound when you're shooting it all on an iPhone. Seventeen.
- 1:20:53Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but you need to have some super solid
- 1:20:56Speaker 1: actors to be able to really convey emotion without any words.
- 1:21:02Speaker 1: I mean, that's the like going into actor theory. That's
- 1:21:06Speaker 1: the most interesting part of a film is watching people react.
- 1:21:08Speaker 1: It's not the words that you say, it's the emotions
- 1:21:10Speaker 1: that you feel in the way that you react to
- 1:21:12Speaker 1: what's going on.
- 1:21:13Speaker 2: So it does make me wonder because, like in their
- 1:21:17Speaker 2: social posts for Blue Harvest, the filmmakers say that this
- 1:21:21Speaker 2: was shot in two weeks with just three people using
- 1:21:25Speaker 2: an iPhone as a camera, And it makes me wonder
- 1:21:28Speaker 2: if that means all the other people you see in
- 1:21:30Speaker 2: shots are just people going about their daily lives. And
- 1:21:33Speaker 2: if so, I guess that means they're probably they probably
- 1:21:37Speaker 2: had to redo the whole soundtrack because otherwise you would
- 1:21:42Speaker 2: have people talking, and if the premise of your movie
- 1:21:44Speaker 2: is that no one talks at this point, you can't
- 1:21:47Speaker 2: have that happen anymore. So I'm wondering what the sound
- 1:21:51Speaker 2: design on this movie is going to turn out to be.
- 1:21:54Speaker 2: Like the trailer just says that it is coming twenty
- 1:21:58Speaker 2: twenty six, that does not give a more specific date.
- 1:22:02Speaker 2: It seems to me more like I mean, maybe it
- 1:22:05Speaker 2: tells a great story, so I don't want to dismiss it,
- 1:22:08Speaker 2: but it definitely seems more like a almost like a
- 1:22:11Speaker 2: challenge or an exercise. So I don't know if it
- 1:22:17Speaker 2: will manifest as a satisfying narrative. But I haven't seen it,
- 1:22:21Speaker 2: so I don't know.
- 1:22:23Speaker 1: My biggest thing is how knowing timeframes. How long of
- 1:22:27Speaker 1: a film can it be if they only shot for
- 1:22:29Speaker 1: two weeks. I actually don't know the answer to that,
- 1:22:33Speaker 1: but yeah, it'll be I am interested. I hope it
- 1:22:35Speaker 1: ends up being cool like Blair Witch or District nine.
- 1:22:40Speaker 1: We'll see. Yeah, the effects that they've shown I don't
- 1:22:43Speaker 1: mind either, So.
- 1:22:44Speaker 2: Yeah, no, the effects look like pretty good considering especially
- 1:22:49Speaker 2: if you consider it's a two week shoot. It's amazing
- 1:22:51Speaker 2: that they were able to put it off.
- 1:22:53Speaker 1: I mean, I wonder if the two weeks does include
- 1:22:55Speaker 1: the after.
- 1:22:58Speaker 2: Well, even so, there's some effects that they must have
- 1:23:01Speaker 2: done at least something on site, you know, because like, yeah,
- 1:23:07Speaker 2: there's some effects where it's stuff like like post processing,
- 1:23:10Speaker 2: but there's some stuff like people lifting off their feet
- 1:23:14Speaker 2: where you're like, oh, I wonder, I wonder how you
- 1:23:17Speaker 2: did that, Like you might have just like literally had
- 1:23:19Speaker 2: someone pick someone else up, and it's just that you're
- 1:23:22Speaker 2: focusing on their feet like a like a like an
- 1:23:25Speaker 2: internet ne'er do Well, you're looking at the feet.
- 1:23:29Speaker 1: Well, it is so like I don't have a huge
- 1:23:33Speaker 1: amount of insight into this, but I did get to
- 1:23:35Speaker 1: work on a passion project for someone where it was
- 1:23:38Speaker 1: sci fi and everything was green screened, so there was
- 1:23:42Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that we had to imagine or
- 1:23:44Speaker 1: kind of work out with blocking.
- 1:23:46Speaker 2: Yeah, then it could become a Neil Breen film if
- 1:23:49Speaker 2: you're not careful.
- 1:23:50Speaker 1: Yeah, but hey, Predator Badlands use practical effects. El Fanning
- 1:23:56Speaker 1: was just tied to the guy playing.
- 1:23:59Speaker 2: The the Predator.
- 1:24:01Speaker 1: It's his name, Sebastian, the guy playing the I was
- 1:24:03Speaker 1: trying to remember his name, the guy playing the Predator,
- 1:24:06Speaker 1: and she just walked backwards. She was like, why can't
- 1:24:09Speaker 1: Why can't I just walk backwards? It will look more
- 1:24:11Speaker 1: realistic that way.
- 1:24:12Speaker 2: I thought you were going to tell me that el
- 1:24:14Speaker 2: Fanning got herself cut in half and then strapped to
- 1:24:16Speaker 2: the back of another actor. Yeah, that's hardcore method right there.
- 1:24:21Speaker 1: No, but I do think it's a cool idea and
- 1:24:22Speaker 1: I like that they did that, especially since another thing
- 1:24:25Speaker 1: I read is that the reason why the main characters
- 1:24:29Speaker 1: face the CGI and said practical effects, because so many
- 1:24:32Speaker 1: predators in the past have been practical effects. Is when
- 1:24:34Speaker 1: they did the movie Prey, that head, that puppet head
- 1:24:38Speaker 1: was like eleven pounds and miserable for.
- 1:24:41Speaker 2: The actor who wore it well, And like in previous
- 1:24:45Speaker 2: predator movies, the benefit was the predator's non screened that much. Yeah, right,
- 1:24:51Speaker 2: Like it's kind of like Jaws, Like the Predator is
- 1:24:53Speaker 2: this invisible threat that our human characters have to react to.
- 1:24:59Speaker 2: And and so while the costume in the head might
- 1:25:03Speaker 2: be heavy, the actual filming requirements for that character were
- 1:25:09Speaker 2: relatively light, just because of the short amount of screen time. Yeah.
- 1:25:14Speaker 1: Even in Prey, which I need to watch, really, I've
- 1:25:17Speaker 1: heard wonderful things and I still want to watch it,
- 1:25:20Speaker 1: that Predator was only on screen for like under thirty minutes.
- 1:25:23Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, next up, we've got a featurette on Stranger
- 1:25:30Speaker 2: Things Tales from eighty five, which is an animated series.
- 1:25:35Speaker 2: It's supposed to take place between the events of season
- 1:25:38Speaker 2: two and season three of Stranger Things. And I said,
- 1:25:45Speaker 2: I wasn't at all surprised about this because it's just
- 1:25:47Speaker 2: like what I was arguing about with the Conjuring series,
- 1:25:50Speaker 2: where Netflix is like, oh, we've got this big hit,
- 1:25:54Speaker 2: but people are rapidly aging out of the characters that
- 1:25:57Speaker 2: they're playing. How do we continue to go use this
- 1:26:02Speaker 2: to leverage this ip but without the benefit of using
- 1:26:07Speaker 2: the actors that everyone's become accustomed to. And one way
- 1:26:11Speaker 2: to do that is to have an animated prequel series.
- 1:26:15Speaker 1: I didn't watch all of it. It's possible they use
- 1:26:18Speaker 1: the same actors as voice actors. You can aid your
- 1:26:21Speaker 1: voice younger pretty well.
- 1:26:22Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't check to see if they've got the
- 1:26:25Speaker 2: same folks from the show, But like, you couldn't easily
- 1:26:29Speaker 2: do Like, there's no way they could do a live
- 1:26:32Speaker 2: action yeah show that's set between seasons two and three
- 1:26:36Speaker 2: using the actual act Everyone would be like, why did
- 1:26:39Speaker 2: they sprout up like and turn old?
- 1:26:42Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and I know that they were looking for
- 1:26:46Speaker 1: actors for a while that looked similar to the young actors,
- 1:26:50Speaker 1: But I'm guessing that's for like some fill in back,
- 1:26:52Speaker 1: back backstory, flashback, that's the word flashback moments.
- 1:27:00Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:27:00Speaker 1: I just hope that this isn't the weird spinoff that
- 1:27:03Speaker 1: they had an idea for that nobody would guess a
- 1:27:07Speaker 1: while back, because I would totally guess this.
- 1:27:10Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I'm seeing so many examples of this, Like
- 1:27:14Speaker 2: we had the Conjuring franchise, We've got the Stranger Things franchise,
- 1:27:18Speaker 2: there's the Boys franchise, where you've got Gen V plus
- 1:27:22Speaker 2: the animated series. Like, I get it. When you have
- 1:27:27Speaker 2: a hit, you want to be able to ride that
- 1:27:30Speaker 2: high for as much as you can. But that can
- 1:27:35Speaker 2: really come back and bite you as well, right, Like,
- 1:27:37Speaker 2: the fan base can can really turn on you if
- 1:27:40Speaker 2: they sense that what you're doing is trying to coast.
- 1:27:44Speaker 2: If it doesn't feel like coasting, then it can be great.
- 1:27:48Speaker 2: But if it feels like you're coasting on just really
- 1:27:50Speaker 2: well established IP. I'm also looking at you over there.
- 1:27:53Speaker 2: Game of Thrones.
- 1:27:55Speaker 1: Oh, I'm excited about the new Game of Thrones show though.
- 1:27:58Speaker 2: Yeah, but you weren't the previous one, right, the Let's
- 1:28:01Speaker 2: Meet the Targarians.
- 1:28:03Speaker 1: No, and this latest one does have a Targarian in
- 1:28:05Speaker 1: it too, but it looks just more lovely.
- 1:28:08Speaker 2: Yeah, bald targarian though, so you don't get those those
- 1:28:11Speaker 2: long white locks. Anyway, This is coming out next year
- 1:28:16Speaker 2: at some point. We don't have an actual release date,
- 1:28:18Speaker 2: yet the animation looks fine. I only ever watched the
- 1:28:24Speaker 2: first season of Stranger Things, so I'm not like the
- 1:28:26Speaker 2: target audience for this.
- 1:28:28Speaker 1: I've watched everything but the latest season. I will say
- 1:28:31Speaker 1: the trailer for the latest season, which dropped last week,
- 1:28:35Speaker 1: it left me so so like I will watch it.
- 1:28:37Speaker 1: I know I will enjoy it, but it did nothing
- 1:28:39Speaker 1: and it excited me. The music choice, per usual, was fantastic,
- 1:28:44Speaker 1: because they've done a really good job at that. The
- 1:28:47Speaker 1: thing I am most excited for for Stranger Things at
- 1:28:50Speaker 1: this point, other than I'm hoping that the D and
- 1:28:52Speaker 1: D show that's being worked on by the producers by
- 1:28:56Speaker 1: I can't remember his name at the moment is Levy?
- 1:28:58Speaker 1: Is Is that right? I don't know anyhow that there's
- 1:29:03Speaker 1: a D and D show coming out with by someone
- 1:29:05Speaker 1: who worked on Shared Your Things, and I'm hoping that
- 1:29:07Speaker 1: that is somehow tangentially related. Is the play? I want
- 1:29:11Speaker 1: to see the play?
- 1:29:12Speaker 2: Oh right, right again? I would mostly want to see
- 1:29:16Speaker 2: that to see the effects as they've created. Yeah, because
- 1:29:20Speaker 2: like when I saw Covenant, I didn't know what to expect.
- 1:29:23Speaker 2: And I don't mean to make it sound like Covenant
- 1:29:25Speaker 2: had massive effects. It's just the effects they used were
- 1:29:31Speaker 2: really impactful. They look good and I didn't know how
- 1:29:34Speaker 2: they did it.
- 1:29:36Speaker 1: That's why I love Beetlejuice. Like I wasn't the hugest
- 1:29:40Speaker 1: like I liked the original movie just fine, mainly because
- 1:29:44Speaker 1: I like Gina Davis. But you know, I wasn't the
- 1:29:47Speaker 1: hugest Beetlejuice fan. But I loved the musical so much
- 1:29:50Speaker 1: because of all of the stage magic. And then did
- 1:29:53Speaker 1: the comedies really good too.
- 1:29:56Speaker 2: Well. Speaking of magic, what's more magic than and the
- 1:30:00Speaker 2: Greek mythology that animates the foundation of Percy Jackson the Olympians.
- 1:30:07Speaker 2: Because we got a trailer for season two.
- 1:30:10Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, at first, when I thought
- 1:30:13Speaker 1: you were going to end at the Olympics, I'd be
- 1:30:14Speaker 1: like adolescence, No, that's magical. No. I watched season one
- 1:30:21Speaker 1: of Percy Jackson and the Olympians on Disney Plus. It
- 1:30:25Speaker 1: was definitely ya. I mean they're ya books right, Yeah.
- 1:30:30Speaker 1: But as a if I if they came out when
- 1:30:33Speaker 1: I was a kid and a teenager, I would have
- 1:30:34Speaker 1: devoured them because I love Greek mythology and I thought
- 1:30:37Speaker 1: in season one they did some really fun stuff with it.
- 1:30:40Speaker 2: Yeah, I so I have never read the books. I
- 1:30:45Speaker 2: have not seen the movies, nor have I watched the series,
- 1:30:51Speaker 2: so I know very little. But this is actually this
- 1:30:55Speaker 2: trailer is where I learned that Percy Jackson, the reason
- 1:30:58Speaker 2: he is Percy Jackson is he's Perseus. And I'm like, well, obviously, Jonathan,
- 1:31:03Speaker 2: you're an idiot for not picking up on that. But
- 1:31:05Speaker 2: I've never read the books or seen any of the
- 1:31:07Speaker 2: other stuff, and so like, I'm only tangentially aware that
- 1:31:14Speaker 2: of this property. In the first place, I wrote, I
- 1:31:18Speaker 2: have no idea what's happening or who anyone is because
- 1:31:22Speaker 2: I've never read the books or watched any of the
- 1:31:24Speaker 2: other media. I get that Percy Jackson is Perseus, and
- 1:31:28Speaker 2: that's about it. Also there's a camp.
- 1:31:31Speaker 1: So so the basic premise is that Percy Jackson is
- 1:31:35Speaker 1: the son of Zeus and doesn't like he doesn't his
- 1:31:40Speaker 1: mom knows it, but he doesn't know it until he
- 1:31:43Speaker 1: reaches this middle school high school age, I don't fully know,
- 1:31:48Speaker 1: and he gets when he starts like he starts seeing
- 1:31:51Speaker 1: like this harpie following him and basically the powers of
- 1:31:55Speaker 1: Olympus or whatever the evil ones are like starting to
- 1:31:59Speaker 1: hunt him. Down, and so his mom sends him to
- 1:32:01Speaker 1: a camp to be trained. Now that like he's coming
- 1:32:04Speaker 1: into his heritage, and the camp is full of children
- 1:32:09Speaker 1: of the gods, because you know those gods they like
- 1:32:12Speaker 1: to have some fun.
- 1:32:13Speaker 2: So this is kind of like similar to what we
- 1:32:18Speaker 2: would see with Disney's Descendants, right, Like it's like, well,
- 1:32:24Speaker 2: I'm just I just mean, like it's this, it's a
- 1:32:26Speaker 2: similar idea of and that you're looking at the offspring
- 1:32:32Speaker 2: of well, although I think in some cases the offspring
- 1:32:36Speaker 2: are supposed to be reimaginations of actual mythological characters. I mean,
- 1:32:41Speaker 2: Perseus does appear in Greek mythology obviously, so.
- 1:32:45Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and like he does find out that the
- 1:32:48Speaker 1: gods play dumb games, like they are not great, and
- 1:32:52Speaker 1: he has to do fetch quests and like it is
- 1:32:56Speaker 1: really interesting what they do. Also, the casting is great.
- 1:33:02Speaker 1: Timothy Audminson plays Hephestus, le Menuel Miranda plays Hermes.
- 1:33:07Speaker 2: Jason Menzukas is Dianasa.
- 1:33:10Speaker 1: Yes, and it's fantastic.
- 1:33:13Speaker 2: His moment in the trailer was the bit that I
- 1:33:15Speaker 2: liked the most.
- 1:33:16Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's really good again. It's definitely why a
- 1:33:21Speaker 1: I will say that, like the special Effect special practical
- 1:33:24Speaker 1: Effects Blends is a little bit better than a lot
- 1:33:26Speaker 1: of the other TV special effects stuff I see for ya,
- 1:33:30Speaker 1: So I appreciate that. Like I said, they do some
- 1:33:33Speaker 1: really interesting stuff. In season one, they do some cool
- 1:33:35Speaker 1: stuff with Medusa, and I really liked that because I
- 1:33:39Speaker 1: think Medusa is a very interesting character in mythology, Like, yeah,
- 1:33:45Speaker 1: if you really dig into it, she was so dirty. Yeah.
- 1:33:50Speaker 1: So I think it is an interesting way because I
- 1:33:53Speaker 1: know so many kids who love Greek mythology and it's
- 1:33:55Speaker 1: not very kid friendly. So it's it's an interesting story
- 1:33:58Speaker 1: to bridge that gap. It's not.
- 1:34:00Speaker 2: It's also it's also something that you start getting taught
- 1:34:04Speaker 2: as early as middle school. And seriously, it's one of
- 1:34:07Speaker 2: those things where you're like, if you read these things,
- 1:34:11Speaker 2: they are there's some some weird and objectionable stuff. I'm
- 1:34:17Speaker 2: not saying not to I'm just saying it's interesting to
- 1:34:19Speaker 2: me where people have issues and where they don't, And
- 1:34:25Speaker 2: like Greek mythology seems to get a pass even though
- 1:34:28Speaker 2: it's it's it's randy as anything. Let me put it
- 1:34:34Speaker 2: that way. Also, like Romeo and Juliet, like we're teaching
- 1:34:38Speaker 2: eighth graders, Romeo and Juliet, And I'm like, have you
- 1:34:40Speaker 2: read that play?
- 1:34:41Speaker 1: But anyway, the amount of depress well we won't get
- 1:34:46Speaker 1: into that, but the amount of depressing stuff that I
- 1:34:49Speaker 1: had to read in middle school is ridiculous. Oh sure, yeah,
- 1:34:53Speaker 1: I mean like see for Zachariah for.
- 1:34:56Speaker 2: Me as Ethan Frome or are the Scarlet Letter or
- 1:35:02Speaker 2: Testa the Durbravils. But anyway, we're gonna move on. This
- 1:35:06Speaker 2: comes out, by the way, Percy Jackson The Olympians Come.
- 1:35:08Speaker 2: Season two comes out December tenth on Disney Plus, and
- 1:35:11Speaker 2: the first two episodes will drop on the tenth and
- 1:35:13Speaker 2: after that it's an episode every Wednesday until done.
- 1:35:18Speaker 1: It was fun. I will probably watch it because the
- 1:35:22Speaker 1: first season was fun. It wasn't amazing, but it was fun.
- 1:35:26Speaker 1: The final thing we're gonna talk about is a trailer
- 1:35:28Speaker 1: for an animated film called Arco.
- 1:35:33Speaker 2: Yeah. This is a story about a young boy who
- 1:35:37Speaker 2: wants to fly, and it turns out that in his
- 1:35:40Speaker 2: time that's not an impossibility. He's in the far, far,
- 1:35:45Speaker 2: far distant future. But in order to fly, apparently you
- 1:35:48Speaker 2: have to have like these little kind of green crystals
- 1:35:51Speaker 2: that you use that I guess give you powers. But
- 1:35:55Speaker 2: you're not supposed to fly until you reach a certain age.
- 1:35:57Speaker 2: The boy is impatient. He tries to fly anyway, and
- 1:35:59Speaker 2: you know it, he accidentally finds himself transported back in
- 1:36:04Speaker 2: time but still in our future in the year twenty seventy.
- 1:36:08Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks cute. It stars Natalie Portman. I got
- 1:36:13Speaker 1: like Little Prince vibes from it.
- 1:36:14Speaker 2: So yeah, it's He encounters a young girl named Iris
- 1:36:18Speaker 2: and together Arco and Iris one are trying to figure
- 1:36:22Speaker 2: out how to get Arco back home. But also Arco
- 1:36:25Speaker 2: finds out that the world is in danger, and so
- 1:36:29Speaker 2: he's trying to help save the world as well. It's
- 1:36:33Speaker 2: got a great or an interesting cast. I don't know
- 1:36:35Speaker 2: about great, some of them are great, but an interesting
- 1:36:38Speaker 2: cast of voice actors. Besides Natalie Portman, you also have
- 1:36:41Speaker 2: Will Ferrell, America Ferrera Flee from Red Hot Chili Peppers,
- 1:36:47Speaker 2: Mark Ruffalo, and Andy Samberg. And it comes out here
- 1:36:51Speaker 2: in the United States on November fourteenth.
- 1:36:55Speaker 1: I've heard really good things about this one. It's not
- 1:37:00Speaker 1: one of those animations I'm like, I have to watch it,
- 1:37:02Speaker 1: but I will watch.
- 1:37:03Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. We also had a trailer for Christmas Karma,
- 1:37:06Speaker 2: but we cut it.
- 1:37:08Speaker 1: Yeah. I also put up the trailer for mighty nine,
- 1:37:10Speaker 1: but we cut that as well. But everything I'm seeing,
- 1:37:14Speaker 1: all the little bits and clips fromighty nine, I'm so
- 1:37:16Speaker 1: excited for it. I was so excited.
- 1:37:17Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's it. That another epic episode because we
- 1:37:20Speaker 2: missed one week. But here's hoping we're able to keep
- 1:37:26Speaker 2: a steady recording session. Although we are going into the
- 1:37:28Speaker 2: holiday season too, so that's probably going to impact us
- 1:37:32Speaker 2: a bit.
- 1:37:33Speaker 1: We'll see. I don't know if I don't know what
- 1:37:37Speaker 1: my holiday plans are yet, So we'll figure it out
- 1:37:39Speaker 1: as we go and we'll keep you updated. But in
- 1:37:42Speaker 1: the meantime, Jonathan, it has been an epic episode. Do
- 1:37:45Speaker 1: you want to give advice on how to reach out
- 1:37:47Speaker 1: to you?
- 1:37:47Speaker 2: Sure? If you wish to contact me, First, you shall
- 1:37:52Speaker 2: have to befriend a frog, not just any frog. You
- 1:37:57Speaker 2: have to find my long lost best friend, Jeremiah. He
- 1:38:05Speaker 2: was a bullfrog and he was a very good friend
- 1:38:07Speaker 2: of mine. You must hunt down Jeremiah, and then you
- 1:38:11Speaker 2: must apprentice to Jeremiah. You must learn from him, and
- 1:38:16Speaker 2: he will teach you to see signs of jubilation where
- 1:38:19Speaker 2: you might least expect it, such as among the fishes
- 1:38:23Speaker 2: of the deep blue sea. And once you learn how
- 1:38:27Speaker 2: you can bring joy to the world, you can prepare
- 1:38:32Speaker 2: yourself for the next big season, which is of course,
- 1:38:36Speaker 2: the Holiday push, which is all about joy to the world.
- 1:38:40Speaker 2: And we're gonna need all that joy to get through
- 1:38:42Speaker 2: the unending avalanche of holiday movies we're gonna be subjected
- 1:38:45Speaker 2: to over the next two months. Anyway, once you do
- 1:38:49Speaker 2: all of that, you can then come back to me.
- 1:38:51Speaker 2: I'll use my little rubber stamp to mark your book
- 1:38:54Speaker 2: to show that you did, in fact do all this stuff,
- 1:38:57Speaker 2: and then you can ask me your question and I'll
- 1:39:01Speaker 2: answer it.
- 1:39:03Speaker 1: And that stamp was in reference to Jonathan went to
- 1:39:07Speaker 1: the Food and Wine Festival. If Jeremiah is no little
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- 1:40:00Speaker 2: And I have Jonathan in my heart. It's always spooky season.
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