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- 0:00Welcome to Reformed thinking. I want you to imagine a man
- 0:03standing on the very edge of a sheer Cliff in the remote
- 0:06Canadian wilderness. Oh, wow.
- 0:08OK, Yeah. It is a very dark scene.
- 0:11He is completely out of his mind on this volatile mixture of
- 0:14narcotics and whiskey, and he is fully intending to end his life
- 0:18right there. That is just awful.
- 0:20It really is. So what does it take to pull a
- 0:23man back from that kind of absolute total despair?
- 0:26And more specifically, what does a radio tower halfway across the
- 0:31world and a highly technical theological debate about church
- 0:35partnerships have to do with saving his life?
- 0:37Well, those seem like totally unrelated things.
- 0:39Right. But today we are looking at the
- 0:42often tension filled balance of Christian cooperation and
- 0:45separation in global missions, and we are drawing from a
- 0:47fascinating stack of material to guide our discussion for you.
- 0:50Yeah, we have a rigorous mythological text on the
- 0:53theology of gospel partnerships by Tim Cantrell.
- 0:56We also have a detailed historical case study analyzing
- 0:58parachurch movements in India. Right.
- 1:01And then we have an absolutely striking personal account of
- 1:05radio evangelism reaching into the darkest corners of the
- 1:08world. So we are looking at a central
- 1:11tension that every believer has to confront.
- 1:14You know Christians are commanded by Christ to make
- 1:17disciples of all nations. Which is a massive global
- 1:20mandate. It is, and logically it requires
- 1:24wide scale cooperation among believers.
- 1:27But the question is how do you partner with others across the
- 1:30globe without compromising the pure truth of the biblical
- 1:33gospel? OK, let's unpack this.
- 1:35Well, that tension you just highlighted is the ideal place
- 1:37to begin, because before we can even attempt to map out how
- 1:41Christians work together, we have to establish the boundary
- 1:43lines of who we are actually working with.
- 1:45Right. Which brings us directly to the
- 1:46doctrine of separation. Precisely, and this is a concept
- 1:49that makes a lot of modern evangelicals highly
- 1:51uncomfortable. But in the mythological text we
- 1:54are looking at, Tim Cantrell presents a thesis that
- 1:56challenges a lot of modern assumptions.
- 1:58He looks at John chapter 17. Which is Jesus High priestly
- 2:01prayer, right? Yes, offered right before his
- 2:04crucifixion. And in that prayer, Jesus prays
- 2:07for the purity of his people. He asks a Father to sanctify
- 2:11them in the truth before He ever prays for their unity.
- 2:13Oh, that is a fascinating sequence.
- 2:15It is crucial. Sanctification through the truth
- 2:18inherently means separation from the world and separation from
- 2:22error, and that is the absolute prerequisite for genuine
- 2:26Christian unity, right? We see the very same logic in
- 2:29James chapter 3 verse 17, where the wisdom from above is
- 2:33described as being first pure, then peaceable.
- 2:36Yes, purity must precede peace. You cannot have biblical peace
- 2:40without biblical purity. You know that sequence of purity
- 2:42before peace is incredibly difficult for you to keep in
- 2:45mind, because our human nature naturally desires peace and
- 2:49unity first at almost any cost. We just want to get along.
- 2:52We do. We want to build large
- 2:53coalitions, but when we look at the historical record,
- 2:56specifically the Old Testament warnings, we see what happens
- 2:59when the people of God ignore that sequence.
- 3:02Unholy alliances almost always ended in complete disaster for
- 3:05Israel and Judah. Like King Jehoshaphat, right?
- 3:08Yes, exactly. I mean spot on.
- 3:11You think about King Jehoshaphat forming a military alliance with
- 3:15the wicked King Ahab. Which, on paper, pooling their
- 3:18resources might have looked like a brilliant strategic move to
- 3:21fight off a common enemy. Right.
- 3:23But God rebuked Jehoshaphat for helping the wicked and loving
- 3:26those who hate the Lord. Those alliances always brought
- 3:30idolatry right into the center of Israel's worship.
- 3:32Yeah, it never ends well. And the text points out that
- 3:35this is not just an ancient problem relegated to the Old
- 3:38Testament. We see modern warnings as well.
- 3:40Right, like the document known as Evangelicals and Catholics
- 3:43Together? Yeah, that is cited as a prime
- 3:45example of an ecumenical partnership that weakened the
- 3:47clear gospel witness of the Church.
- 3:49Because by trying to find common ground for the sake of cultural
- 3:53influence, the signatories ended up muddying the waters on the
- 3:56doctrine of justification by faith alone.
- 3:58Which is a massive issue. When you compromise imputed
- 4:01righteousness for the sake of a coalition, you lose the gospel
- 4:05entirely. You really do.
- 4:07And to help us avoid that kind of devastating compromise, the
- 4:11text outlines 3 distinct categories of separation.
- 4:15First, there's personal separation.
- 4:18Right, which is the daily fleeing from sin and worldliness
- 4:21as we strive for Christlikeness. Yes, and second, there is
- 4:24ecclesial separation from false teachers, meaning the Church
- 4:28must actively separate from those who distort the Gospel
- 4:31message. And then third, there is
- 4:33ecclesial separation from disobedient brethren.
- 4:36Right, which brings in the necessity of church discipline
- 4:38for unrepentant members as outlined in Matthew chapter 18.
- 4:42So those 3 categories show us that the Gospel itself is the
- 4:45primary boundary issue driving the need for separation.
- 4:49We separate because we love the truth.
- 4:52But you know this brings up a massive challenge, especially in
- 4:54the realm of global missions. Drawing a hard line in the sand
- 4:57can sound incredibly unloving to the modern ear.
- 5:00Yeah, it sounds counterproductive.
- 5:01Tribal and exclusionary people might ask why we would restrict
- 5:05our partnerships when there are billions of lost people who need
- 5:08to hear about Christ. Because the assumption is that
- 5:10more hands on deck always equals a better outcome.
- 5:13Right. But if we think about the nature
- 5:15of truth, boundary lines are not unloving.
- 5:19They are necessary for preservation.
- 5:22If you remove the boundaries, you lose the very message you
- 5:26are trying to proclaim. I think you write that people
- 5:28view this as tribal gate keeping.
- 5:30So let me push back a little bit on behalf of the listener.
- 5:32Sure, go ahead. I hear you quoting John 17 and
- 5:36James 3 but drawing boundaries. But practically speaking, if I
- 5:40am in a famine struck region of India and a Roman Catholic
- 5:44relief agency offers me a massive shipment of grain to
- 5:47distribute to starving children, am I really supposed to say no
- 5:51thanks? Your view of justification is
- 5:53wrong. While people starve in front of
- 5:55me. Doesn't that make our theology
- 5:56look incredibly callous? That is a very fair question to
- 5:59bring up. I think an analogy helps clarify
- 6:01this distinction for the listener.
- 6:03Imagine you have a glass of perfectly clean, filtered
- 6:05drinking water. OK, I am picturing it.
- 6:08Now imagine you have a large picture of water drawn from a
- 6:11stagnant, contaminated swamp. Yuck.
- 6:13If your goal is to have more clean drinking water to give to
- 6:17a thirsty person, you do not pour the contaminated water into
- 6:21your clean glass. No, of course not.
- 6:23Right, because the moment you mix them, you do not elevate the
- 6:26quality of the swamp water. You simply pollute the clean
- 6:30water. The entire glass is ruined.
- 6:32That makes a. Lot of sense.
- 6:33The physical boundary of the glass is what keeps the water
- 6:36pure and useful, and in the same way the boundary of sound
- 6:39doctrine keeps the gospel pure and effective for the salvation
- 6:42of souls. We can hand out grain together
- 6:45as a civic good, but we cannot mix our spiritual water.
- 6:49Well, that analogy of the water filtration clarifies the tension
- 6:52beautifully. We have to distinguish between
- 6:54temporal relief and eternal salvation.
- 6:57Mixing the water ruins the cure. It really does.
- 7:00And this aligns perfectly with a quote from David Doran included
- 7:03in our text, where he states every great revival has drawn a
- 7:06line between truth and error. He concludes that genuine gospel
- 7:10unity flows from genuine gospel separation.
- 7:13Which is very consistent with our theological framework.
- 7:16As believers who adhere to the Westminster Confession of Faith,
- 7:20we understand that the purity of the visible Church is vital to
- 7:23its witness in the world. Right.
- 7:25Chapter 25 of the Confession teaches that particular churches
- 7:28are more or less pure, depending on how the gospel is taught and
- 7:31embraced, how the ordinances are administered, and how public
- 7:35worship is performed. So maintaining that purity is
- 7:37not some abstract academic exercise for theologians in an
- 7:41ivory tower. It is an act of strict obedience
- 7:44to Christ. We guard the boundary because
- 7:47Christ commanded us to guard His bride.
- 7:50So now that we have established why boundaries are a strict
- 7:52necessity for preserving the truth, we need to map out what
- 7:55those boundaries actually look like in real world practice.
- 7:58Right, and the text uses a highly effective model to
- 8:01visualize this. It uses a concentric bullseye.
- 8:04Yes, at the very edge of this bullseye is the absolute
- 8:08outermost boundary. This is the tall, unbreakable
- 8:11fence that separates the ministries affiliated with the
- 8:13true church from the activities of the world.
- 8:16Everything outside this fence is not Christian ministry.
- 8:19And that outermost fence is defined by Jude verse 3, which
- 8:24is the faith that was once for all delivered to the Saints.
- 8:27This is the biblical gospel. Yes, this barrier specifically
- 8:30precludes spiritual partnership with groups that teach a
- 8:33different gospel, such as Mormons or Roman Catholics.
- 8:37Outside of the biblical gospel, there is no Christian fellowship
- 8:40or ministry partnership whatsoever.
- 8:43However, the text makes a very careful distinction here that
- 8:46answers your earlier pushback about the starving children in
- 8:49India. Oh, right, let's look at that.
- 8:51It distinguishes between partnering with non believers
- 8:54for temporal civic causes versus partnering for spiritual
- 8:58ministry. We can practice what Francis
- 9:00Schaefer called Co belligerence. Right, and that concept of Co
- 9:04belligerence brings a lot of clarity to how we operate in
- 9:06society. Christians can and often should
- 9:09collaborate with non believers on temporal causes.
- 9:11Like pro-life advocacy, human trafficking rescue, or local
- 9:15community disaster relief? Yeah, you might work alongside
- 9:18someone of a completely different religion to advocate
- 9:21for the unborn or to feed the hungry in your city.
- 9:23That is a civic good. You are handing out the grain.
- 9:26But the hard line is drawn when it comes to spiritual ministry
- 9:29and evangelism. You cannot link arms with
- 9:32someone who denies the biblical gospel and go out to preach a
- 9:35joint message. You cannot mix the water.
- 9:38That is a very clear boundary. Now, as we move inside that
- 9:41absolute boundary, we enter the first three rings of the
- 9:44bullseye, which represent parachurch and
- 9:47interdenominational cooperation. OK, so let's break those down.
- 9:50Ring One is Christian Fellowship.
- 9:53Yes, this is the broadest level of cooperation among those who
- 9:56hold to the true gospel. It is governed by the idea of
- 9:59unity and essentials, liberty and non essentials and charity
- 10:03in all things. Right, so we are thinking of
- 10:05things like Christian camps, massive choirs, and broad radio
- 10:09ministries. Moving one step closer to the
- 10:11center, we find Ring 2, which is evangelism and mercy ministry.
- 10:16This involves believers from different doctrinal convictions
- 10:18coming together to meet urgent physical needs.
- 10:21So we are talking about Christian hospitals, orphanages
- 10:24and disaster relief organizations.
- 10:26Right. A Baptist and a Presbyterian
- 10:28might disagree strongly on infant baptism, but they can
- 10:31completely agree on the gospel and work together to fund an
- 10:34orphanage in a war-torn country. Yeah.
- 10:37And the key requirement here is that these endeavors must always
- 10:40direct new converts back to faithful local churches.
- 10:43Absolutely. Then in ring three we have
- 10:47Christian education. This focuses on worldview
- 10:50training and theological knowledge.
- 10:52This includes Bible colleges, seminaries, and Christian grade
- 10:56schools. And these institutions support
- 10:58the global advance of the gospel, but they do not require
- 11:01all participants to agree on every single detail of local
- 11:04church covenants to function effectively.
- 11:07Looking at those first three rings, you know, fellowship,
- 11:09Mercy ministries and education, it begs a massive question that
- 11:13I want you to consider as you listen.
- 11:15OK, what is the question? With all of these massive, well
- 11:18funded para church organizations doing such incredible work
- 11:21globally, why do we even need anything closer to the center of
- 11:25the bullseye? That is a very common thought.
- 11:27Right. If a group like World Vision has
- 11:29billions of dollars, unparalleled logistics, and the
- 11:33ability to build a hospital in a week, why shouldn't we just hand
- 11:36them the keys to the Great Commission?
- 11:37Yeah, why drag a slow, messy local church elder board into
- 11:42this? Why can't these para church
- 11:44ministries just take the reins and finish the job on their own?
- 11:47Well, to answer that question, we have to look at what happens
- 11:50when para church ministries operate without a tether to the
- 11:53local church. Our sources provide a brilliant
- 11:56historical analysis by Sammy Williams focusing on the context
- 11:59of India. Yes, this case study
- 12:01demonstrates precisely what occurs when the para church
- 12:04eclipses the bride of Christ. To understand the rise of the
- 12:07Para church in India, you have to grasp the desperate,
- 12:10staggering needs that existed there in the year 19101.
- 12:14The life expectancy in India was just 23 years.
- 12:17Wow. Only 23 years.
- 12:19Yes, the physical suffering exacerbated by the caste system
- 12:22and widespread disease was immense.
- 12:25So naturally there is a massive influx of Christian hospitals
- 12:28and schools. And the response from Western
- 12:31believers was to send medical and educational aid, which was
- 12:34desperately needed. It was Even today, Christian
- 12:37schools in India are so highly regarded that they enroll 74% of
- 12:42the non Christian student population.
- 12:44They built an absolute empire of educational and medical
- 12:47infrastructure. The sheer scale of that
- 12:49logistical work is astounding, and we should praise God for the
- 12:52physical relief and education provided to millions of people.
- 12:56However, the text issues a severe warning about mission
- 12:59drift when organizations become untethered from the specific
- 13:03spiritual mandate given to the local church.
- 13:06And that first warning involves prioritizing social justice
- 13:09without the gospel. Right the text sites
- 13:12organizations like World Vision which is one of the largest para
- 13:14church ministries operating in India.
- 13:16Their stated purpose focuses heavily on development, relief
- 13:20and advocacy to pursue fullness of life for every child.
- 13:23But the warning here is that when social welfare and physical
- 13:26liftment become the primary focus, without an explicitly
- 13:29gospel oriented purpose clearly stated and practiced, the
- 13:32organization drifts from its original spiritual mission.
- 13:35Yes, what happens to the gospel message when a hospital is
- 13:38primary metric of success becomes purely physical healing.
- 13:42You end up with a well funded humanitarian agency rather than
- 13:46a vehicle for making disciples. The physical needs eclipse the
- 13:50spiritual reality of sin and judgement.
- 13:52And then the second warning revolves around prioritizing
- 13:55ecumenism over truth. In the pursuit of broad unity
- 13:58and massive numerical growth, doctrinal clarity is almost
- 14:02always sacrificed. Yes, the text highlights Donald
- 14:05Mcgavran and the Church Growth movement.
- 14:07Mcgavran looked at the sociology of India, particularly the caste
- 14:11system, and developed the Homogeneous Unit principle.
- 14:14Which suggested that people prefer to become Christians
- 14:16without crossing racial, linguistic or class barriers.
- 14:19Right. And while he influenced much of
- 14:21modern missiology, the early para church movements in India
- 14:24focused so heavily on developing unity across denominational
- 14:28lines to boost numbers that it led to the historic creation of
- 14:31the Church of South India in 1947.
- 14:33Which was massive merger combining Anglican,
- 14:36Congregational and Presbyterian bodies.
- 14:38Yeah, and while it looked like a triumph of unity on paper,
- 14:42consider the mechanics of that compromise.
- 14:45When you merge denominations with fundamentally different
- 14:47views on church governance and the sacraments, you immediately
- 14:51hit a wall. Oh absolutely.
- 14:52I mean, who administers communion?
- 14:54Do we baptize infants or only professing believers?
- 14:57Right. To keep the peace and maintain
- 14:59the coalition, you have to lower the theological stakes.
- 15:02You have to stop talking about of those defining doctrines and
- 15:06suddenly your theology is watered down to the lowest
- 15:09common denominator. And the third warning is perhaps
- 15:12the most concerning from a strict ecclesiological
- 15:14standpoint, divorcing missions from the Church entirely.
- 15:18Yes, in an effort to speed up the process of sending workers
- 15:22into the field, many parachurch organizations began bypassing
- 15:25the local church completely. They viewed the local church is
- 15:28too slow, too bureaucratic, or too focused on local issues.
- 15:32So they created their own independent training schools,
- 15:34reduced the focus on rigorous biblical theology, and began
- 15:38recruiting and sending missionaries directly.
- 15:40And the biblical concept of a local sending church became
- 15:43incredibly rare. The missionary was accountable
- 15:46only to a distant parachurch board of directors, not to a
- 15:49biblically qualified plurality of elders in a local
- 15:52congregation. Right.
- 15:54They became free agents, entirely disconnected from the
- 15:57accountability of the local body.
- 15:58If we connect this historical drift to the biblical text, we
- 16:02find a much needed corrective. The very word parachurch
- 16:06contains the Greek prefix para which means alongside.
- 16:10Right. By definition a para church
- 16:12organization only exists to assist and run alongside the
- 16:16local church. It was never designed by God to
- 16:18replace it. We can look to the Apostle
- 16:20Paul's methodology in the book of Acts for absolute clarity on
- 16:23this. In Acts chapter 19, Paul goes to
- 16:25the major Pagan city center of Ephesus.
- 16:28He does not start a humanitarian agency.
- 16:30And he does not start a standalone seminary disconnected
- 16:33from a congregation. No, he establishes a local
- 16:35church and focuses heavily on intense discipleship and the
- 16:38preaching of the Word for two years.
- 16:40And the text says that from that local church in Ephesus, all who
- 16:44lived in Asia heard the word of the Lord.
- 16:46So the local church itself was the engine for reaching the
- 16:49entire surrounding region. Yes, and that brings us
- 16:52perfectly to the inner rings of our bullseye model, because the
- 16:56para Church cannot fulfill the Great Commission alone.
- 16:59Because it lacks the biblical authority of the keys of the
- 17:01Kingdom. Exactly.
- 17:03So we have to move past those outer rings into the intense
- 17:06gravity of the local church. This is where a true gospel
- 17:09partnership reaches its highest, most concentrated form.
- 17:13We are looking at rings 4 through 7 dealing with local and
- 17:17closely associated churches. OK, so ring 4 is church
- 17:20planting. The text argues that
- 17:22establishing new local churches in new contexts is the most
- 17:25direct biblical fulfillment of the Great Commission.
- 17:28Right. The para church ministries in
- 17:30the outer rings exist to support this specific goal.
- 17:33Then we move inward to ring 5, which involves local church
- 17:36membership and deacons. This is where the unseen
- 17:39spiritual unity of the invisible Church becomes visible through
- 17:42water baptism, adherence to church covenants, and strict
- 17:45agreement on sound doctrine. And the text specifically
- 17:48highlights the role of deacons here, noting that men of
- 17:51blameless character are appointed to minister to the
- 17:54physical needs of the body, which guards the unity of the
- 17:56congregation and frees the elders to preach.
- 18:00Then moving even closer to the center ring 6 is pastoral
- 18:03training. The text points to Second
- 18:05Timothy chapter 2, verse 2, showing the biblical mandate for
- 18:08the local church to train its own future leaders.
- 18:11Yeah, Paul tells Timothy to take the things he has heard and
- 18:14entrust them to faithful men who will be able to teach others
- 18:17also. Well, standalone seminaries are
- 18:19incredibly helpful. They function best when they
- 18:22were under the close oversight and strict accountability of
- 18:25partnering local churches. And finally, we arrive at the
- 18:28absolute center of the bull's ring. 7 the LS.
- 18:32Yes, when it comes to participation in ministry, the
- 18:35deepest level of spiritual unity outside of marriage is found
- 18:39among fellow overseers in a local church.
- 18:41Because of the sheer weight of spiritual responsibility
- 18:45entrusted to them, God holds a plurality of elders to the
- 18:48highest possible standard in life and doctrine.
- 18:51They are tasked with teaching sound doctrine, refuting those
- 18:54who contradict it, and defending the flock from wolves.
- 18:57I think a solar system analogy works incredibly well to
- 19:00describe this dynamic for you. Imagine the local church,
- 19:04specifically the plurality of elders and the faithful
- 19:08preaching of the Word, sitting at the very center, just like
- 19:11the sun. OK, I'm with you.
- 19:13It's immense gravitational pull is what keeps everything else in
- 19:17the correct orbit. As you move further out to the
- 19:20different rings, the seminaries, the orphanages, the Christian
- 19:23camps, the gravitational pull get slightly looser, but they
- 19:26all still firmly orbiting that central life giving source.
- 19:29Right. And the catastrophic problem
- 19:31occurs when a parent church organization out in one of the
- 19:34distant orbits decides it wants to be the Sun.
- 19:37Yes. When a planet loses, that
- 19:39gravity goes rogue. That's what happened in India.
- 19:41That parachurch became a rogue planet.
- 19:43It had mass, it had momentum, it had funding, but it was
- 19:46completely out of orbit. Yeah, when a parachurch tries to
- 19:50act like a local church attempting to administer the
- 19:52sacraments or sending missionaries without elder
- 19:54accountability, the gravity is lost and the whole system starts
- 19:58to tear itself apart. Well, that analogy of the rogue
- 20:01planet captures the tension Florida State, and it aligns
- 20:05seamlessly with Reformed ecclesiology.
- 20:08In Matthew chapter 16, Christ promised I will build my church,
- 20:12and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
- 20:14He did not promise to build the parish church.
- 20:16Right. He gave the keys of the Kingdom
- 20:18to the Church. Therefore, the local church
- 20:21alone possesses the authority given by Christ to administer
- 20:25water baptism, to fence and administer the Lord's Table, and
- 20:29to carry out church discipline. A board of directors at a
- 20:32nonprofit cannot excommunicate an unrepentant center.
- 20:36Only a local church can do that. The para church is an incredible
- 20:39tool, but it remains a tool in the hands of the Bride of
- 20:42Christ. It must always act as an
- 20:44assessment to the local congregation.
- 20:46So if the local church is the ultimate goal of all these
- 20:49partnerships, a massive logistical question arises.
- 20:52OK, what is it? How do we reach people in areas
- 20:55where local churches are literally illegal or where they
- 20:59simply do not exist? If a country has closed its
- 21:02borders to physical missionaries, how do these broad
- 21:05outer ring pair of church tools function effectively to spark
- 21:09church planting in those highly restricted dark places?
- 21:12That is a fascinating question, and this leads us to our next
- 21:16source, an account by Edward W Cannon regarding the Far East
- 21:19Broadcasting Company or FEC. Yes, this organization started
- 21:24in 1945, right at the close of the Second World War.
- 21:28And with a vision that sounds almost like science fiction for
- 21:31its time, using radio waves to bypass geographic borders,
- 21:34hostile governments, and physical walls like the Bamboo
- 21:37Curtain. They viewed a simple radio
- 21:39receiver as a portable missionary capable of going
- 21:42where human beings legally could not step foot.
- 21:45The strategy behind that portable missionary is firmly
- 21:48rooted in Scripture. The text points to Romans
- 21:50chapter 10, verse 14. How will they hear without a
- 21:53preacher? Right, in a hostile context
- 21:56where a physical preacher cannot cross the border, the radio
- 21:59signal carries the preacher's voice directly into the living
- 22:02room. But the crucial element here is
- 22:03not just the technology itself. It is the substance of the
- 22:07broadcast. In the secular broadcasting
- 22:09industry, there is a common phrase content is king.
- 22:13Right, but FEC customized that phrase for their mission.
- 22:17Content is king when the king is the content.
- 22:20Yes, the goal was never to amass high listener numbers through
- 22:24light entertainment, cultural commentary, or superficial talk
- 22:27shows. The singular goal was making
- 22:29disciples through the faithful, rigorous exposition of God's
- 22:33Word. To accomplish that massive goal,
- 22:36the text outlines 3 specific pillars of broadcast strategy
- 22:39for these hostile environments. OK, let's hear them.
- 22:42The first pillar is utilizing indigenous voices.
- 22:45They knew that many cultures are highly suspicious of foreign
- 22:48Western influences. To build immediate trust, the
- 22:51voice coming to the radio needed to speak the local language
- 22:54utilizing the precise local dialect.
- 22:57That makes total sense. The second pillar is local
- 23:00awareness. A broadcaster cannot just read a
- 23:02translated script written in a comfortable American context and
- 23:05expect it to resonate in a persecuted village.
- 23:07Right. They have to understand what the
- 23:09Hindus, Muslims or Buddhists in that specific listening area
- 23:13already believe about God and the world and address those
- 23:17specific worldviews biblically. And the third pillar is
- 23:20establishing listener feedback mechanisms.
- 23:23Even in dark, hostile places, they needed ways for listeners
- 23:27to ask questions, whether through smuggled letters, phone
- 23:30calls or texts. Yeah, to ensure the broadcast
- 23:33was actually being understood and to facilitate further on the
- 23:36ground discipleship. What's fascinating here is how
- 23:39they measured their success. The metrics of success for FEBC
- 23:43are completely countercultural to modern media standards, which
- 23:46usually chase clicks and broad appeal.
- 23:48Yes, over decades of tracking listener feedback, initially
- 23:52through millions of handwritten letters smuggle out of places
- 23:55like China and Russia, and later through digital apps, they found
- 23:58a remarkably consistent pattern. And the most requested
- 24:01programming was never the music, and it was never the light
- 24:03devotional material, no. The overwhelming demand from
- 24:07these isolated believers was for pure verse by verse Bible
- 24:10teaching. That spiritually hungry response
- 24:13proved that the strategy was working.
- 24:15They did not need to water down the theology to gain an
- 24:17audience. The pure preaching of the Word
- 24:20was exactly what the elect in those nations were craving.
- 24:23That macro level view of international radio strategy is
- 24:26astounding, but we need to zoom in.
- 24:28We need to transition from the massive scale of broadcasting
- 24:31towers and millions of letters to the micro reality of one
- 24:35single listener. OK, how does the Sovereign Guide
- 24:39use these distant outer ring partnerships to reach down and
- 24:43save a specific desperate person?
- 24:46This is where we look at the testimony of Nathan Giesbrecht.
- 24:49Yes, his story is one of the most gripping accounts of God's
- 24:52sovereignty we'll ever hear. We need to detail precisely
- 24:55where Nathan was in his life because the contrast between his
- 24:58total depravity and God's irresistible grace is
- 25:01staggering. It really is.
- 25:03Over a decade ago, Nathan was swallowed by absolute grief.
- 25:06He was going through a bitter divorce and he just lost his
- 25:08father. And his coping mechanisms were
- 25:10completely destructive. He was drinking whiskey daily
- 25:13just to numb the pain. He went to a psychiatrist who
- 25:17put him on six different antidepressants, none of which
- 25:20helped his despair. So he started mixing in heavy
- 25:23narcotics and sedatives. He was living with a woman who
- 25:26actively practiced witchcraft. It is just a total downward
- 25:30spiral, yeah. The shame of abandoning his
- 25:32children eventually pushed him to the absolute brink.
- 25:35He actually walked to the edge of a high Cliff with full
- 25:39suicidal ideation, fully intending to jump and end it
- 25:43all. Which brings us back to that
- 25:44image from the very beginning. Right.
- 25:46And the only thing that stopped him from stepping off that ledge
- 25:49was a fleeting thought that he wanted his children to know.
- 25:51He never stopped loving them. The depths of his desperation
- 25:54were total. His life was entirely ruined by
- 25:57his own sin, his rebellion and his severe substance abuse.
- 26:01He was fired from his professional career as a speech
- 26:03and language pathologist because he was constantly under the
- 26:06influence. Yeah.
- 26:08To make ends meet, he took a grueling night shift job in the
- 26:11middle of the dark British Columbia forest, cutting fence
- 26:14posts. And it is in this precise
- 26:16setting of extreme isolation, addiction, and despair that we
- 26:21see God utilize highly unorthodox means of grace to
- 26:24reach Him. Yes, Nathan found an old broken
- 26:28cassette player and radio. The numbers were completely worn
- 26:31off the dial. To keep himself awake during his
- 26:34dangerous 8 hour shift at the saw, he spent time wiring up
- 26:38metal coat hangers just to get some kind of crude antenna
- 26:41reception. Through the heavy static in the
- 26:43middle of the Canadian wilderness, he managed to catch
- 26:46one single station. It was a broadcast announcing a
- 26:49man who was unleashing God's truth one verse at a time.
- 26:53It was a Grace to You radio broadcast featuring Pastor John
- 26:56MacArthur. Right.
- 26:57For the very first time in his life, Nathan heard a clear
- 27:00biblical exposition regarding the absolute, terrifying holy of
- 27:03God and the reality of human sin.
- 27:05Here's where it gets really interesting.
- 27:07You have to picture this incredibly visceral scene.
- 27:09He is in the middle of a dark, freezing Canadian forest,
- 27:13covered in sawdust, listening to a broken radio he rigged
- 27:16together with coat hangers, and the radio announcer offers a
- 27:19free resource to listeners. Nathan desperately wants it.
- 27:23He grabs a thick lumber crayon, the heavy kind used for marking
- 27:26raw timber, and he scribbles the Radio Ministries address onto a
- 27:29torn piece of the cardboard box lid so he wouldn't forget it.
- 27:32That is just an incredible detail.
- 27:34He mails the request for the resource.
- 27:37Sometime later, the reality of his severe drug addiction
- 27:40catches up with him again. He is driving under the
- 27:43influence of heavy narcotics and actually falls asleep at the
- 27:46wheel of his vehicle. By a sheer act of God's
- 27:49preserving mercy, his vehicle leaves the road and crashes into
- 27:52the one tiny clearing in the dense forest where there were no
- 27:55trees. He survives unharmed.
- 27:58But the physical impact of the violent crash dislodges
- 28:01something from his car's sun visor.
- 28:03It falls perfectly into his lap. It is the free CD he had
- 28:05requested weeks earlier with that lumber crayon titled The
- 28:09Believer's Comfort in Christ's Return.
- 28:11That moment is a staggering display of God's absolute
- 28:14sovereignty. Right there, in the immediate
- 28:16aftermath of a drug induced crash, the truth physically
- 28:19lands in His lap. Yes, he listens to the CD which
- 28:23features an exposition of Ephesians chapter 5, verses 1
- 28:26and 2. That text commands believers to
- 28:29walk in love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for
- 28:32us, a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.
- 28:36Hearing the explanation of the atonement, that real biblical
- 28:39love is inherently sacrificial, shattered Nathan.
- 28:42He saw his own utter selfishness, especially his
- 28:45grievous sin in abandoning his own children, starkly contrasted
- 28:49against the perfectly selfless sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the
- 28:52cross. That realization, driven solely
- 28:55by the faithful preaching of the Word, brought him to his knees
- 28:58in total repentance, leading to his genuine salvation.
- 29:02The Holy Spirit used that preach Word to regenerate his dead
- 29:05heart. And the fruit of that salvation
- 29:06was immediate and radical. He instantly walked away from
- 29:09the drugs. He literally slammed the Rorsch
- 29:11shut on his narcotics and never looked back.
- 29:13He left the woman practicing witchcraft.
- 29:15He went directly to his ex-wife, confessed his massive failures,
- 29:19asked for her forgiveness and successfully secured shared
- 29:22custody of his sons to be a father to them again.
- 29:25He eventually LED a Co worker to faith in Christ and she later
- 29:29became his new wife. He realized the local churches
- 29:33he was attending. We're not preaching the Word
- 29:35with the same rigor and fidelity he heard on that radio
- 29:38broadcast, so he desired to be trained properly.
- 29:41He and his wife sold everything they had, moved all the way to
- 29:44California to attend the Masters Seminary, and then returned to
- 29:48Canada to plant a faithful local church on Vancouver Island.
- 29:52If we look at Nathan's testimony through the lens of everything
- 29:55we have discussed today, it perfectly illustrates the
- 29:58bullseye model functioning precisely as it should.
- 30:01You have a massive parachurch radio ministry operating out in
- 30:05the broad outer rings. It used broad technology to
- 30:08broadcast a signal across international borders into a
- 30:11dark forest. But that outer ring ministry
- 30:13functioned perfectly as an assistant to eventually produce
- 30:16a local church plant in the inner rings.
- 30:18Right. The radio broadcast did not
- 30:20baptize Nathan. It did not offer him the Lord's
- 30:23Table. It delivered the ordinary means
- 30:25of grace, the preaching of the Word which the Holy Spirit used
- 30:28to save him, eventually driving him into rigorous pastoral
- 30:32training and the planting of a faithful local church.
- 30:35We also see the immense Providence of God utilizing
- 30:39faceless, anonymous partners to enact His sovereign will across
- 30:43the globe. That is the ideal point to
- 30:45synthesize all of this for you as you listen.
- 30:47When you consider the sheer scale of global gospel
- 30:50partnerships, it is staggering. We are talking about strict
- 30:53theological boundaries, massive historical movements in India,
- 30:57towering radio antennas bypassing hostile borders and
- 31:00broken cassette players wired with coat hangers in a forest,
- 31:04all orchestrated by a sovereign God to build his church.
- 31:07It brings us to a final, provocative thought regarding
- 31:10anonymous obedience. I want you to consider the
- 31:12unseen people involved in Nathan's story.
- 31:15Think about the audio engineer who sat in a dark room and
- 31:18edited that sermon. Think about the donor who wrote
- 31:21a check to pay for the postage to mail ACD to Canada.
- 31:24Think about the postal worker who drove it to his house.
- 31:27None of those individuals had any idea that they're small,
- 31:30hidden actions were being used by God to rescue a suicidal man
- 31:34in a forest, restore a broken family, and plant a new church
- 31:38on an island. They never knew the result of
- 31:40their labor. No, they did not.
- 31:42So the challenge for you to Mull over is this.
- 31:45What hidden, faithful, anonymous actions are you taking right now
- 31:49that God might use to alter someone's eternity, even if you
- 31:52never see the result on this side of heaven?
- 31:54Thank you for joining us for this deep dive session of
- 31:56Reformed thinking. We will see you next time.