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🎪 Thanksgiving True Crime: Turkey Fights, Family Drama & Murder | The Hunting Party Review · This Is My Circus

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I'm Stephanie.
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I'm Meredith.
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And welcome to This Is My Circus.
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It sure is a freaking circus.
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Oh, my Lord, have mercy.
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How you doing?
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Oh, peachy keen.
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How are you?
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Peachy keen.
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I'm too peachy keen.
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I am also peachy keen.
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Oh, geez.
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How was your week?
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Up until about Wednesday it was great.
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Oh.
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Brian and I got a stomach virus.
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Oh, no.
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Mm-hmm.
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Fun.
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No.
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Really, really- Terrible it was the worst thing ever.
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Oh.
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And Brian and I have never been sick like that at the same time, and can I tell you how pissed off I am at him?
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For getting...
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Were you sick first?
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Yeah, I was sick first, and he came home from work.
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So okay, Thursday I didn't feel great all day.
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My stomach was just unsettled and, no appetite, but not, sick-sick.
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Mm-hmm.
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And I messaged him and I was like,"Hey, babe, on the way home,"'cause he gets off work before me,"can you stop and pick me up a yellow Gatorade?" That's my thing when I'm sick.
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He was like,"Oh, you don't feel good?" And I was like,"Obviously, ass hat, no." But so he comes home and he's like,"Oh my God, I don't feel good.
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I'll go..." I'm like,"You?" Mm.
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And of course his is worse than mine, right?
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Always, yes.
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So we both called out on Friday, and again, fantastic, a lot of fun times with that.
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We ran out of freaking toilet paper.
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Oh my gosh.
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I had to DoorDash toilet paper.
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You could've called me.
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I could've called you, but I mean, it's embarrassing to even say right here to all the masses that listen, but that's just where we are, people.
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And honestly, I could've asked Jackson.
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We didn't run out, out.
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Yeah.
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Uh, we were just, down to a lot of nothing.
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Yeah.
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I could've got him to pick up some on the way home from school, but I was like,"I'm not risking it." Yeah.
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We both called out of work on Friday.
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And of course, all day he was just moaning and groaning and whatever.
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So we go to Jackson's game on Friday night, and it's an hour.
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It's in Lancaster, so it's over an hour away.
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Oh.
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And at this point I am not still violently ill- Yeah but I just don't feel good.
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I thought it was food poisoning,'cause I had cooked Wednesday night, and it hit us both so quickly at the same time.
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Apparently there's a virus going around.
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I am not that terrible of a cook.
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So we're going to the game, we're driving, and e- everything is just a big deal at this point, and he's so on my nerves.
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Yeah.
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I love you, babe.
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Yeah.
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I mean, when you're sick, he is a when I am sick come and check on me and be with me.
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I'm a get out of my room- Leave me alone until I feel better.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Or just if I so much as a whisper that I need something, I need you to bring it to me, but other than that, go away.
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Right.
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I'm so- Um, Same way.
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Yeah Like, I don't need you- Yeah to watch me.
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So everything was just a big deal.
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Like,"What do you want to drive?" And I was like, whatever you think's gonna be the most comfortable for you." You know, whatever.
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He's like, if I can't drive home, what do you want to br-" I was like,"Babe, I can drive.
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it doesn't freaking matter." So we stop on the way there,'cause he's like,"I've just had so much stomach pain." I'm like,"Okay." So we stop and I'm like,"Let's just get some Pepto." Mm-hmm.
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At this point, whatever.
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So we get Pepto, and you know it comes with like a little medicine cup?
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Uh-huh.
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And, Pepto is thick and gross, I know, but it does the job, right?
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Yeah.
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I'm like, Bottoms up, dude." I give it to him.
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So we finish driving- Yeah and I'm like,"Okay, 30 minutes later you can take another dose." Not the most fun of shots.
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No, it was not.
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It was not.
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Not even a good chaser, nothing.
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So we get to the school.
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It's about 30, 45 minutes later, and you can take it that often if you need to, so I gave him another one.
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I was like,"Here, take this." And I was like,"And I'm not taking this little shot cup that's gross- Yeah with pink residue into the thing.
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You're just going to have to bum." Yeah.
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So we're sitting at the game, right?
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Brian is sitting on one end, Pepto just turning it up, like every few minutes just...
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I should have just put a straw in it.
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But at the same time, he is also, this is so weird, he's also, hungry.
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Mm-hmm.
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So he kind of needs something on his stomach to kind of coat it because all of that.
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So I went and got some popcorn.
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I was like, okay, it's light, it's salty.
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It's not like super greasy movie popcorn.
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I got a box, and I was like,"We'll split this." So he took my box, and then Jazz had a box, and then he ate Jazz's box.
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I was like,"You need to hold up.
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Wait a minute." So of course he can't drive home, and he's hurting again.
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He starts to drive home, and he's like,"I just can't." And I'm like,"Oh, pull over, homeboy." So I get us home.
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He doesn't remember a thing about driving home.
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And I'm like,"Dude, what in the world?" we get home, and he's like,"Do we just have anything I can take?" And from when my princess had a kidney stone- Uh-huh back in the spring, we had something left.
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So I was like,"Just take this and go to bed.
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I don't even care.
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Get out of my space." Yeah.
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So he wakes up the next morning feeling great.
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Saturday he's fine.
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He's like,"I want to go get a biscuit." And I'm like,"Babe, fine.
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Whatever." He does okay Saturday.
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We ate soup for lunch and soup for dinner because whatever, just trying to- Ease back in ease back into it- Yeah and not just go into a smorgasbord of food.
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I got up yesterday, I went to church and went to lunch after, and,, Brian's like,"Will you bring me something?" I'm like,"Yeah.
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What, what do you want?" I got an order of fries.
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Mm-hmm.
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I ate half of the fries.
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Brian's like,"Give me a chicken sandwich with onions and pickles." So of course he had stomach pain again yesterday.
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I'm like,"Oh, my God." He's like,"What can I take?" I was like,"Okay, so it's probably like the lining of your stomach is irritated." I mean, I'm not a medical personnel.
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Don't listen to this, people.
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Whatever.
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I'm like, don't take any, Motrin or anything that's gonna aggravate the lining of your stomach, and stop with the Pepto if you're still doing that- it's just been, it's been gr- so my weekend was great, Steph.
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My weekend was great.
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I hope you feel better, Bren.
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Thank you for the well wishes.
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Now leave my girl alone.
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Right.
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Gosh.
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Just now he was like,"Do you think I can eat some chicken salad?" I'm like,"Whatever." I said, I'll make you some plain rice with...
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don't...
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But you can't put anything on it.""No, I don't want that." He wants, like, shrimp sauce on it- Yeah or something.
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You gotta do the...
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What was it?
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The BRAT.
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BRAT diet.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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I can't.
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Mm-hmm.
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Help me help you.
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Yeah.
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Jerry Maguire.
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Anyway, brr, so what are we talking about today?
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Today is, uh- It's gonna be a great one, I can tell.
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So our theme is actually dinner, drama, and murder.
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Murder.
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Murder.
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Well, I got, some funny, Thanksgiving crimes.
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I'm, I'm down with that.
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I'm down with that.
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So this is in High Point, North Carolina last year.
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Okay.
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On November 13th.
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Okay.
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the title is The$4.44 Turkey That Ended in a Shootout.
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Oh, my gosh.
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But I wanna know where they got a$4.44 turkey.
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A customer at Food Lion- Thank you became angry over a Thanksgiving turkey promotion.
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According to local reporting, the turkey cost$4.44, but the customer had to spend$35 on other groceries to qualify, and that's every year.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah.
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I mean- I do that.
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Do you do that?
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Yeah.
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I'm like,"What can I go without today?" Yeah.
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Just pantry staples, whatever.
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It doesn't take much now to get to 30 bucks.
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No.
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God, no.
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I'm surprised they hadn't made it, like,$77.
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Another customer intervened when the argument with an employee escalated.
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Two customers started fighting, and the altercation moved outside, where both men fired guns.
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One was wounded in the arm.
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High Point Police confirmed that the entire incident began with an argument over a turkey.
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So have you ever witnessed something at a grocery store?
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No.
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No?
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Mm-mm.
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Have you?
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I don't think so either.
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I'm never there for the good stuff.
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No, The only thing that I've ever participated in, I get upset when people are in my way.
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Like, you're just standing there looking at the green beans.
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Just slide over, just- Yeah you see me here.
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Yeah.
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You can't miss me.
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Yeah.
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I'm heavy breathing in your ear.
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Well, it's also you know, why- Oh do they put their carts right across from each other and nobody can move on either direction?
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Makes zero sense.
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Yeah.
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It makes no sense.
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Definitely.
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Yeah.
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Speaking of Food Lion though, do you remember in COVID when there was the arrows?
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Yes Did you follow the rules?
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I don't think so.
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I did, and I was like, of course I was like the arrow police when people weren't going the right way.
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I was giving them dirty looks.
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I sure showed them.
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Oops.
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Yeah, I never saw anything like that before- Mm-mm at a grocery store.
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Mm-mm.
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I haven't either.
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I mean, people have like a attitude, but I never really seen it.
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I always go in self-checkout, though.
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I never go to a- Me too a human.
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You know, people get upset at self-checkout.
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They're like,"I don't work here, I'm not doing self-checkout." Girl, if I don't have to deal with anybody else but myself and I can handle it, if I have 73 items in here, I'm gonna do self-checkout.
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Yeah.
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I'm 100% a self-checkout girl.
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Yeah, me too.
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And so many places have them now, like CVS and- I know, it's- Mm-hmm freaking great.
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There was another case in Baton Rouge, Louisiana- Okay from 2016, and this title is,"She hit her husband with a Thanksgiving turkey." Jeez.
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I just had a vision of Monica from Friends wearing the turkey on her head.
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I loved that episode.
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According to police, a woman named Helen Jackson got into an argument with her husband while he was preparing the Thanksgiving turkey.
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Things escalated.
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Police allege that she threatened him with a knife and then struck him with a turkey.
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She was arrested on aggravated assault and domestic abuse battery charges.
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Now, she claims, not what the police claim, but she claims is that she took, the husband was carving the turkey- Okay and she took the knife away from him'cause he was like waving it around while they were arguing.
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Mm-hmm.
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I could see that.
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And he was saying that- I'm on her side already.
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Same.
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And he was saying that she was threatening him with the knife, and then she threw the turkey at him.
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But I wanna know what the fight was about.
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I wanna know what it was too, that you wasted a freaking turkey.
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What do you think it was about?
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Something ridiculously stupid.
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She was sick and he was trying to be sicker.
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It was probably like,"I already told you that they were coming at 1:30." Yeah.
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why were you out there blowing leaves?" Yeah.
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"I like, I told..." You know how men do that stupid stuff.
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Yes.
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Or like,"I asked you to clean the, Yeah bathroom." Right.
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"And it's still not clean, and-" I don't even give- you took the whole day" right.
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I don't even give like the big tasks.
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Yeah.
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It was something stupid like that.
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Yeah.
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100%.
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She was in the right.
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Yeah.
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He was wrong.
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Yeah.
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Whatever.
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He deserves a turkey to the head.
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Yes.
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Never heard of turkey being a weapon.
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No, but that's awesome.
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Mm-hmm.
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I'm gonna put that in my repertoire.
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That would hurt.
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Yeah.
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What if it had even been frozen?
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You're adding it to your arsenal.
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That just clicks.
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Well, I have an AK and a turkey.
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Hey, if, the blackout that they're calling for- Yeah is coming and somebody tries...
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Listen- Good to know I got a frozen turkey.
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Actually, I got a turkey today.
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Did you?
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I did, because there's this thing.
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Have you seen it on Facebook where it's for Walmart, and you add, um...
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Okay, I'm gonna tell everybody what it is.
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It's like a whole meal.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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So you go into the app, and in the title you add Thanksgiving feast for 10, in your search bar, and it'll pop up and show you all the things.
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And you add all of the stuff to cart.
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Mm-hmm.
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And it's the turkey, the stuffing, a bag of potatoes.
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All the things.
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Add it to cart, and it's like 35 bucks.
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Mm-hmm.
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And then what you do is you use a coupon code.
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The one...
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I did it today.
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Mm-hmm.
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The one I used was double 10, D-O-U-B-L-E 1-0, or you can do triple 10, and it gives you 10 bucks off.
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So it's$25 for it.
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And most of that I'm gonna be able to donate.
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Yeah.
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That's good.
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I'm gonna keep the turkey for a weapon.
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In case there's a blackout.
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But they can have the yams and the, pie crusts.
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But they did say when I picked it up, the Walmart guy was like,"Is this for you or are you donating again?" And I wanted to say- Does it matter?
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"Really none ya," but, Half and half?
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But...
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Yeah.
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But I was like,"Well, mostly to donate." And, um, he was like,"Well, just to let you know that it's going on through, sometime in December," he said,"so you can come back and do it again for..." And I was like,"Thank you." Yeah.
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"Thanks for not gatekeeping that." Yeah.
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'Cause that'll be good to...
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All of our people around here, you know, that need that kind of stuff.
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I'm glad we have some spots to throw that in.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So do that people.
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Go pick it up or have it delivered if you have Walmart Plus.
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Yep, and if you have Sam's Club, like, the- Oh my God, that's fantastic too.
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Yeah, the, the Plus membership, you automatically get Walmart Plus.
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Yes.
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I love that.
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Yeah.
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So I do have Sam's, and I have that.
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And then I went...
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Oh my gosh.
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Totally off the subject.
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We are not talking about dinner, drama, and murder right now, but, We are talking about dinner correct.
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Yes.
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This can be drama.
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So when I was picking up my stuff I went to the Murphy's gas station right across from Publix- Mm-hmm in that same parking lot.
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You can put your Walmart information in there.
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So you go in your Walmart app.
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There's like a...
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I don't remember, but you can figure it out'cause you're smart.
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There's like a gas thing in there, and it'll give you a code, and it takes money off your gas at Murphy's.
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So if you have Amazon, Prime- Uh-huh at the BP- Uh-huh it's 10 cents off every day or 20 cents off on Fridays.
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Shut up.
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Yeah.
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This is why you need to listen, people.
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We're just here saving you money.
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You know what?
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That's gonna be a new segment.
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Yeah.
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'Cause we're both bargain hunters.
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I have a story, though.
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Ooh.
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So this one is from Hendersonville, North Carolina.
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Okay.
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I like that we're keeping it local.
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Yeah.
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I don't like this person's name.
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Okay.
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I have no idea male or female.
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I think she's female.
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So look at her name.
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Gudrun Caspar Linkenkug L- Oh my sweet Jesus.
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So this is last November, November 30th, 2025.
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Mm.
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Not even 365 days.
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Are you ready?
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Mm-hmm.
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Okay, so this is an ongoing criminal case.
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Ooh.
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Mm-hmm.
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Gudrun has pleaded not guilty, and the allegations have not been proven at trial.
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All right, so Thanksgiving dinner, family, wine, and an industrial chemical apparently.
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So on November the 30th, 2025, Gudrun, we're just gonna call her Gudrun, hosted a belated Thanksgiving gathering.
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Family members came to her home in Henderson County in North Carolina, which is like our mountains.
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Mm-hmm.
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The meal included two turkeys and plenty of food.
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Good.
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Good to know that, right?
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Guests describe the atmosphere as just a very relaxed place.
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There was a bottle of Mad Dog 2021.
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No.
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No more explanation needed.
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The end.
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And it was shared by three guests, so her daughter, Lela, was 32, Maja is her younger daughter, and Richard Pegg is Maja's boyfriend.
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Okay.
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Gudrun drank totally different wine.
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All three of those people became ill.
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Richard required six days of hospitalization, and Lela, her daughter, was found dead the following day.
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So toxicology identified Acetonitrile Sure.
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Mm-hmm, in Lela's blood.
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It's an industrial chemical that can produce cyanide in the body.
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They found a bottle labeled"this fun chemical" at Goodrin's home, and prosecutors allege that she searched online for information about the chemical prior to the gathering.
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She suggested that the wine may have been accidentally contaminated.
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She was arrested just this January, and, she faces murder and attempted murder charges, and her attorneys still deny anything there.
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Isn't that crazy?
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Oh my gosh.
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Mm-hmm.
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Sheesh.
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Mm-hmm.
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Wow.
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Her children.
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Yeah.
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Oof.
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Yeah.
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Okay, well, this is from Massachusetts from 2004, but I was just like, what the heck?
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The man who got stabbed for bad table manners.
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Now, table manners I am not big on, but this is a criminal offense for Thanksgiving.
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Uh-huh.
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Two relatives criticized Frank Palacios.
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We chose some, some names this week, didn't we?
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Yeah.
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So two relatives criticized him for picking at the Thanksgiving turkey with his fingers- Okay, gross instead of cutting off pieces.
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According to police, he reacted by stabbing both relatives with the carving knife.
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So they were picking on him.
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He was picking on the turkey, and they were picking on him.
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Mm-hmm.
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Oh my gosh.
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He was charged with domestic assault and assault with intent to murder.
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Now, these were his, like, relatives, like, his family.
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Yes.
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That's gross, though.
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Yeah.
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Don't pick at it with your fingers.
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Right.
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Nasty, he was just mad that he got called out That's, yeah But keep your fingers off the turkey.
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100%.
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I'm big on table manners.
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Yeah.
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Not like having a napkin across your lap.
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Yeah.
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I think it's lovely, but we don't do that in my house.
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Yeah.
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We, we eat, eat.
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Yeah.
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But just have a little decorum, even if it's your family that you see all the time.
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Yeah.
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Okay, even if you do that, on a normal basis, you just grab something off the table- Yeah it's a holiday.
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Right.
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Well, and it's not like...
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Okay, I can, understand picking up one thing off.
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Yeah.
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It's like getting a chip out of a basket.
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Right You grab.
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But to continually, to break off the chip and just break off the chip.
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But, but it's- To, to break off pieces- But it's a bird but to break off pieces of a freaking poultry bird.
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I just...
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Manners are just gone, though, you know?
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They are, yeah.
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So jumping on that same thing that we were just talking about, I feel like when somebody invites you to dinner- Mm-hmm there are some, like, unwritten rules, and some of those are, like, don't show up empty-handed.
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Yeah.
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I was never really taught that'cause, I don't know, I guess that's just not how I was grown, but I've learned that that's, you show up with something.
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Bring something, yeah.
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It doesn't matter what it is.
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You just show up with some kind of a something, either to be eaten or drank that night, or just as a gift to your host.
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Right.
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And Brian's always like,"What are you taking it for?
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They told us not to bring anything." I was like,"Everybody says that." No, you still do that.
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Yeah.
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So,, just wondering, though, how do you feel about, people criticizing the food of the person that's cooked?
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Well, okay, how bad is the food?
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Are we talking like you're choking on the turkey dry?
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Yeah.
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Or- Yeah, it's pretty shitty.
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I still wouldn't say anything.
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I don't think I would either.
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I would probably whisper it to you.
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Right.
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Right.
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We're going,"What?" I'd be like...
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No, I'd be like texting- Are we going to kettle corn after this?
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I'd be texting you like,"Uh, what's our backup plan?" Marks and Chips and Salsa after this, or what are we doing?
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Yeah, I don't think I would criticize the food either.
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I think I would try to be polite about it.
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Yeah.
17:19
And- Dump some more gravy on that shit and move on.
17:23
The bread can't be that bad.
17:25
Get some rolls- Yeah and just do something.
17:28
Right.
17:28
How about making in- inappropriate comments about somebody else's, family situation at the table?
17:33
Oh, no.
17:33
Mm-hmm.
17:34
No, you're just asking to get, something thrown at you.
17:36
Yeah.
17:36
That- Turkey.
17:39
That is a throwable offense.
17:42
Agreed.
17:43
Definitely no politics and no financial stuff and no religion stuff.
17:46
No.
17:47
So these people that try to bring that up- Mm stop.
17:50
Yes.
17:51
None of that.
17:51
No.
17:52
We're just gonna talk about happy, feel-good stuff.
17:53
Yes.
17:54
How do you feel about, people, get drunk and become everybody's problem, or is that you?
17:59
I don't believe that's me.
18:00
You don't, you don't...
18:01
I know you don't drink right now.
18:02
I know you're not, you're, you don't drink.
18:03
But, I don't think even when I did drink I was, anybody's problem really.
18:06
Right I think every family has that person.
18:09
Mm-hmm.
18:09
And, I'm gonna try to be her this year.
18:11
Are you?
18:11
That's my goal.
18:13
I'll let you know how it goes.
18:15
What is worse, showing up an hour late- Like, you're the host and somebody shows up an hour late, or you're the guest and the food, is hours later, than what you're anticipated.
18:26
To me, if you- The food- Yeah is late- Yeah you think,"I'm gonna be starving in a-" You show up like- You have no option to feed yourself.
18:34
Like- What if it's a double whammy and it's the food is late and then it's shitty food?
18:38
Yeah.
18:39
Then you turn into the drunk person that's throwing the turkey.
18:42
Well, if the food's late, I'm probably drunk by that point.
18:44
Yeah.
18:45
And then it's your problem- because you made me wait for the food.
18:48
This is all your fault.
18:50
And then I'm drinking on an empty stomach.
18:52
Yeah.
18:52
That's not my fault.
18:53
Right.
18:54
That's, at that point, that's on you.
18:56
That's on you.
18:57
What about if you show up and they, hand you a potato peeler,"Get to work"?
19:00
I'd ask if they need help.
19:01
Right.
19:01
I would totally be okay.
19:02
I feel like I always ask that, too.
19:03
Yeah.
19:04
Like,"Here's your bottle of wine that I bought you, and can I do anything to help?" Right.
19:07
I would totally be okay with that.
19:08
Yeah.
19:08
Me too.
19:09
Some people that I was reading up on are like,"No, I'd be so offended if somebody asked me." I was like- No where do you come from?
19:14
Let me help.
19:15
What do you come from?
19:16
Yeah.
19:16
What's the worst thing that you think the dinner guest could do?
19:19
So you're a hostess.
19:20
What would be, like, one of the most, or a couple of just the worst...
19:24
i would hate to be criticized after I've gone to all this trouble, not just cooking the meal and inviting, but you know, all the things that go with that, the cleaning the house, the shopping and everything.
19:34
Just be gracious.
19:35
Right.
19:36
Agreed.
19:36
I think somebody being like,"This is just pure crap," My, my brother is, a poker.
19:41
Uh-huh.
19:41
And knows what buttons to push to start stuff.
19:44
Mm-hmm.
19:45
Mm-hmm.
19:45
And so I think bringing up something that you know is going to cause an explosion- Mm-hmm and just ruin the entire rest of the night.
19:53
Just to, like, drop the match and then- Yeah sit back and watch it- Uh-huh explode.
19:56
Yeah.
19:57
Okay.
19:57
I think that type of thing- Yeah would be worse to me.
20:01
Mm-hmm.
20:01
'Cause it would be the rest of the night for everybody.
20:03
Yeah.
20:03
Like, it's not just insulting me- Right about the food.
20:06
Like, it would be- You've, you've ruined the entire- For everybody evening for everybody.
20:10
Right.
20:10
Yeah.
20:11
Not only all of the work that you've done to prepare and go into it, but everybody that's taken the time to come and, yeah, agreed.
20:18
How late is too late to arrive?
20:19
So you say,"Okay, come on over at 6:00.
20:21
We'll probably eat around 6:30 or so, 7:00." How late is too late for somebody to show up for the meal?
20:26
I don't care how late it is.
20:28
If I've already got other people that are there, we're gonna eat without you.
20:30
Yeah, same.
20:31
Yeah.
20:31
Yeah.
20:31
I'd say I'd wait, like, maybe 15 minutes, 20 minutes, and then I would start serving the food- Yeah past whatever time I told you we were gonna eat.
20:37
Yeah.
20:38
So like 7:15 then?
20:39
Yeah, 7:15, 7:00.
20:40
Okay.
20:40
That's good.
20:41
Yeah.
20:41
That's good.
20:41
I was thinking, barely that.
20:43
I told you what time to be here.
20:44
Yeah.
20:44
I told you we were gonna eat at the latest at 7:00, and you're still not here at 7:00?
20:48
Like- I give you, like, a 15-minute grace period.
20:50
Oh, you'll just kill some time by doing something.
20:52
Yeah.
20:53
Like,"Does anybody want another drink?" Yeah.
20:54
Okay.
20:55
Restaurants usually give you about a 15-minute grace period for reservations.
20:58
So I'll give you the same grace.
21:00
So you're gonna do that too?
21:02
Yeah.
21:02
Have you ever been to a family dinner where somebody's, made a crazy announcement?
21:07
No.
21:08
Me neither.
21:08
Mm-mm.
21:09
I've never had anybody, do the tap on the thing and say...
21:11
First of all, most of the places that we have family dinners, there's no tapping of glasses.
21:15
No, it's Russell who does it.
21:17
Yeah.
21:19
I've never, I've never experienced the crazy announcement of We're engaged or pregnant Yeah expected or unexpected Mm-mm.
21:27
I've always wanted kind of to be in that environment.
21:29
I've never- Yeah I don't know why.
21:31
I- Maybe this is the year.
21:32
Maybe.
21:33
We'll see how do you feel about, when an old family argument would resurface?
21:39
Oh, I hate that.
21:40
Is that part of like your brother's stuff?
21:41
Yeah,, his claim to fame and what he does is brings up stuff that we never got caught in childhood for- Mm and then he will- Wow.
21:50
My sister does that sometimes too.
21:51
And it's like for- Well, I mean, my mom's dead now, so it doesn't matter, but- But like shock value.
21:56
Yeah And then I'm like,“Dude, if I didn't get caught in high school, why are you trying to rat me out now?” Well, yeah, that and like she'll say it in front of Jackson.
22:02
Mm.
22:03
And I mean, Jackson knows that I wasn't perfect.
22:04
I'm never gonna go into all the details of how I'm not perfect because there's only just like two, but there's a time and a place.
22:11
And him sitting there, I'm not even gonna say it here'cause- Yeah you might post a clip of this but just like, girl.
22:19
Yeah.
22:20
Yeah.
22:20
What are we doing?
22:21
Same.
22:21
Yeah.
22:22
I don't even know, man.
22:23
One thing that irks me, and I've been in this situation before, and not an irk, but just like, holy crap, I really wish I would've known.
22:32
Have you ever been to a home where it's like you're, you're holding your breath right now like what is she gonna say?
22:39
And it's not even that bad.
22:40
Like I appreciate this, okay, been somewhere where they ask you to take your shoes off.
22:44
Yes.
22:45
I don't have a problem with taking my shoes off, but I need to prepare.
22:48
Right.
22:48
So I have on my good socks.
22:49
Right.
22:50
Right.
22:51
And I don't really know how you put that on the Thanksgiving invite.
22:53
Yeah.
22:54
But I need to know.
22:56
So we just start carrying a pair of extra socks in our purse.
22:58
Yes.
23:00
Or like the hospital booties.
23:02
Yeah.
23:02
Just put those on.
23:03
The slipper socks.
23:05
Right.
23:05
Like the, the comfy ones.
23:06
Yeah.
23:07
Yeah.
23:07
Yeah.
23:08
With like the no slip grip.
23:09
That are like one size fits nobody.
23:13
Come up to your knees.
23:13
And there's not a heel on them.
23:15
The grip is just like on one side, you don't even know.
23:19
Yeah.
23:20
I just need some warning.
23:21
I'm totally fine.
23:22
I love that idea.
23:23
I try to not wear shoes in our house, but nobody else follows the rule, just because of germs and- And we have dogs, so they bring everything in anyway I know, it doesn't really matter.
23:30
Yeah.
23:30
Did I tell you I got a Roomba?
23:32
No.
23:33
Hang on.
23:34
I got one about a month ago.
23:36
Uh-huh.
23:37
Speaking of dogs.
23:38
Does it fill up like super fast?
23:40
Yeah.
23:43
But I have it programmed to do this front side of the house and then like the bedroom and the bathroom and different parts, so it's not overflowing.
23:51
Mine would get like a square foot and it'd be full of dog hair.
23:54
Well, Rex is different than my guys.
23:55
Mine's just like short, little pine straw- Yeah needles it feels like.
23:58
But it is the best thing ever.
24:00
Mm-hmm.
24:01
I don't know why I waited.
24:02
I know I waited.
24:03
I was terrified.
24:04
I was like,"I don't even know how to work these things.
24:05
They're like aliens." Did you see they have those for the grass?
24:09
Shut up.
24:10
They cut the grass?
24:10
Yes.
24:11
No, I need to keep Hale's Lawn Care.
24:13
Don't anybody look that up, it's a lie.
24:15
Steph's lying to us all.
24:16
They've got a lawnmower.
24:17
It looks like a Roomba.
24:19
That's really cool.
24:19
And you just set the parameters of your yard.
24:21
That is so cool.
24:22
Uh-huh.
24:23
So they also have, a invisible fence that you can do like that.
24:27
Do y'all have that here?
24:27
No.
24:28
They have one like that, too, that you can do, either by GPS- Mm or just by like territory, and it just, you set the parameters and then put the little thing on there and yeah.
24:37
I think I'm gonna get one of those.
24:38
Yeah.
24:39
Oh, but technology stuff.
24:40
Yeah.
24:41
Oh my God.
24:41
I am so sorry.
24:42
We just go off the rail.
24:43
I know.
24:43
Like, it just gets worse- Yeah and worse.
24:46
A friend of mine lives really close to one of the Walmarts, and she just needed like something, so she...
24:50
A drone delivered it to her house.
24:52
She shared a picture of like the drone, like I felt like I was watching Hunger Games.
24:59
Crazy.
25:00
Wow.
25:01
Mm-hmm.
25:01
So we got robots cutting the grass, we got drones delivering stuff.
25:05
Mm-hmm.
25:05
But how do you prove, they delivered to the wrong house?
25:08
If it gets delivered to the wrong house.
25:10
Yeah.
25:10
Oh, I'm sure just everything's recorded.
25:12
Oh, okay.
25:12
And all that stuff.
25:13
Well.
25:14
Crazy.
25:15
And you're just standing out there like,"Wow." I know.
25:17
And she didn't get it, when it dropped, she got on it...
25:20
I guess she didn't know and she just saw it flying away and she was like,"Oh my God, I gotta get that." Could, could you imagine like eggs?
25:25
Oh.
25:26
I hope they're very selective.
25:28
I hope she got a frozen turkey.
25:29
Yeah.
25:31
It drops on somebody's head.
25:32
Oh.
25:32
Oh, that's a weapon.
25:34
Exactly.
25:35
That...
25:35
Oh.
25:37
That is the whole point.
25:39
Maybe she's like me and she needed toilet paper.
25:41
A loaf of bread.
25:43
Yes.
25:43
Yes.
25:44
That's funny.
25:44
That is funny.
25:45
You know what always thought sounded fun?
25:47
Huh?
25:47
Have you ever heard of a, a progressive dinner party?
25:50
A what?
25:51
Progressive.
25:52
I don't mean, progressive as in, modern.
25:54
But like progressive as, okay, so there's like five families- Uh-huh and they go from house to house- Oh, great for each course.
26:01
So, the first one is, apps and drinks, and then you go to somebody else's house for, salad and- Yeah.
26:05
If you all live close, that would be great.
26:07
I think so too, and if I had that many friends, it'd be a lot of fun.
26:11
I just- we'd just be going back and forth to each other's house.
26:14
Go ahead, go ahead, Jasmine.
26:17
Yeah.
26:17
Oh, so we got three.
26:18
So three.
26:18
Yeah.
26:18
So apps.
26:19
Main, main meal's at Jazz's.
26:21
Oh, yeah.
26:21
One, yeah.
26:21
Main meal's definitely at Jazz's.
26:23
So one of us can do apps and one dessert.
26:25
Okay.
26:25
That would work.
26:26
Done.
26:26
Yeah.
26:27
Well, I s- found the funniest Reddit post, and so I think we should read the comment section.
26:33
I love the comments on these things.
26:35
Oh.
26:35
I follow so many people where their, their byline is, like, to the comments.
26:39
Yeah.
26:39
Yeah.
26:39
Okay.
26:40
What do we got?
26:40
The title is What Was Your Thanksgiving Drama This Year?
26:44
Okay.
26:44
And- That's wide open There was, like, 16,000 comments.
26:48
Oh my God.
26:49
So we're just gonna grab a couple.
26:51
We don't have time to go through all of those.
26:53
Yeah.
26:53
TaterTot464- Mm-hmm says,"Half the family didn't show up, so my dad started doing impressions of them." Oh my gosh.
27:00
Now, could you do impressions of people?
27:02
Yeah.
27:03
Yeah.
27:03
I could,'cause I kinda do some of them now.
27:07
Specific ones, and I love them, but you know, we all have our flaws, and there's always specific things.
27:14
So Thanksgiving Day we always eat at Brian's family's house.
27:17
Mm-hmm.
27:17
And there's specific things that everybody brings every year.
27:20
It's kind of like the unofficial assigned stuff.
27:22
Right.
27:22
And the commentary with each item is the same every year.
27:26
And I'm like...
27:27
So yeah, could definitely do the impressions.
27:29
Could definitely do the impressions.
27:35
This one here.
27:37
Uh-huh.
27:37
"A large mixing bowl full of yams disappeared into nothing while everyone was trying to get food on the table.
27:43
We've looked absolutely everywhere there is to look, and it's just gone.
27:47
Nine people seriously questioning their sanity now.
27:50
There's lots of things that could've happened to the yams themselves, but the bowl being missing is a real head-scratcher." A comment under that is,"Eight questioning sanity, one pretending." One pretending.
28:01
Absolutely.
28:02
You're the one.
28:03
You would hide them in the yams, wouldn't you?
28:06
Yeah.
28:06
I'm picturing, like, one of the kids dropped the bowl- Uh-huh like, and sma- the bowl like shattered- Oh and hurried and cleaned it up and threw it out and be like,"I don't know what happened." Oh, I'm picturing somebody literally hid it just to be a jerk.
28:17
Oh.
28:19
Your brother.
28:19
Yeah.
28:22
Um, my dad's wife is back on meth.
28:24
Oh, okay.
28:25
Stop.
28:25
Stop.
28:27
She hid his keys inside his car so that he can't find them, but it will start, push start car, so she can drive without him knowing.
28:35
She also stuck a magnet tracker under the seat.
28:39
I also found out that my cousin with Down syndrome can knock back whiskey just like she's drinking water.
28:43
She parties harder than I ever could.
28:45
I'm jealous.
28:47
My gosh.
28:48
There's so much to unpack in that.
28:49
Yeah.
28:50
I can't even spend any time on that one.
28:52
Two bites into my meal at my mother-in-law's house, my Ring doorbell alerted me to someone ringing my doorbell.
28:57
I pulled it up to catch an old man entering my house.
29:00
I bolted out of my chair and went home.
29:02
She lives close.
29:03
I get there, no one is there.
29:04
I pull up the video to see exited like 20 seconds after he entered, grumbling,"Hmm, wrong house." Funny thing was that we were leaving, I thought to myself,"Did I lock the front door?" What are the fucking odds?
29:16
My food was still warm when I got back to my mother-in-law's house.
29:20
Somebody said,"I walked into the wrong house on Thanksgiving two years ago.
29:23
I was 24.
29:24
As soon as I walked in, I saw some people I never seen before.
29:27
Turned around and said,'Bye.'" It was then that I realized that a lot of people leave their front door unlocked on Thanksgiving.
29:34
The way that some of my family is, I would just think it was family members I'd never seen before.
29:39
Yeah.
29:39
And I'd just be like-"What's up?" Right.
29:42
"Stephanie." Yeah.
29:43
"Parker.""Got the mac and cheese." Yeah.
29:46
That's great.
29:48
That's hilarious.
29:48
I have never done that before, but I have gotten into the wrong car and- Oh, yeah thought- Oh, yeah and, I literally sat down and, put the keys in the ignition, and it wouldn't start, and I'm, like, looking around.
29:58
I'm like,"Well, that doesn't look like it's mine." Not done that, but attempted to get in while the correct owner was watching me, probably thinking I was stealing their Honda CRV.
30:08
I was not.
30:09
Yeah.
30:09
I did tell you that I, banged on the wrong hotel room door or something one time, and Paw Paw there was, like, wanting my groceries.
30:16
Oh, my gosh.
30:18
In-laws are visiting from out of town, except father-in-law decided to leave yesterday and go home before Thanksgiving and did not come back.
30:24
He told my wife and I, just not his wife.
30:28
Mother-in-law's still here.
30:29
FYI, this is normal for him.
30:31
They have got a relationship, don't they?
30:33
There is probably some family drama that- Oh, yeah that he stays.
30:37
Oh, yeah.
30:38
He might be one of these others that we've talked about today.
30:41
Yeah.
30:41
He might be a turkey thrower, might be a s- a, a turkey picker.
30:46
Mm-hmm.
30:46
Okay.
30:47
Oh.
30:47
Oh, yeah, I got this one.
30:48
You step back.
30:51
Okay, I might win this year.
30:53
My uncle's girlfriend, who mind you spent several years in prison for manslaughter, went after him with a knife, ended up stabbing him a couple times.
30:59
No serious wounds, as he managed to overpower her and get the knife away, but my God, it's redneck entertainment at its finest.
31:06
Yes, she's now sitting in jail.
31:08
Edit, need to add that they didn't break up a- until after their court date.
31:12
Apparently she expected him to post bail, and that was the final straw.
31:16
Oh, my God.
31:17
See, our families are normal compared to this I, I think so.
31:20
I- Makes me feel better.
31:21
Oh, yeah.
31:22
All right, we'll do, like, two more.
31:23
Okay.
31:24
"Had to call a tow truck on some teenager, friend of front neighbor's kid, because he wouldn't move his car that was blocking my mom's driveway.
31:31
She told him to move it since she needed to, get something for dinner.
31:34
He answered that he shouldn't have to move because it's a public street.
31:38
I go get the stuff and then get home.
31:40
I again tell him to move it because I want to park up the driveway.
31:44
Shouts at me that I can find parking on the street.
31:47
Now he has no car for Thanksgiving and cop gave him a ticket." Which, dumb, but it's not public parking in front of a driveway.
31:53
No.
31:54
No, and especially not when you're blocking somebody else's.
31:57
But, you know, kids are so arrogant.
31:59
Uh-huh.
31:59
Ugh.
32:00
Yeah, I could see that being a serious thing.
32:03
But here's, here's the comment that's right under it,"What an asshole and a dipshit.
32:07
Anyone with half a brain and a driver's license could tell you you can't block a driveway." Well, I'm glad to know we have half a brain because that's what we just said.
32:14
This person's name was I Hate Punctuation.
32:15
That's- Same you know.
32:17
No, actually, I'm a punctuation.
32:18
"My mother-in-law always buys Thanksgiving dinner, and this time she didn't notice she bought the raw turkey, and it wasn't until an hour before dinner when she learned she had to cook it rather than just warm it up." But it would take longer than an hour to warm up.
32:31
I would think so, but the comment underneath it says,"How was the pizza?" Amen.
32:36
Is there any pizza places open, though, on- Well, everybody's got a frozen pizza in their fridge or a frozen something.
32:42
Frozen something.
32:43
Yeah.
32:43
Well, that was a pasta.
32:45
Yeah, pasta.
32:46
I, I mean- what would you...
32:48
If that happened to your house, and you were hosting, and your turkey, what would you, grab that you could fix real fast?
32:53
What do you...
32:53
17 Hot Pockets?
32:57
Some Crustables?
32:58
No.
32:58
Oh, yeah.
32:59
That would go.
33:00
Cut them in quarters.
33:02
Spread them out nicely on a platter.
33:04
Make them in the shape of a turkey.
33:06
That'd be great.
33:06
Ooh, you can make them like feathers.
33:09
Especially if you had different flavors.
33:10
Yeah.
33:10
I just tried the raspberry ones.
33:12
Uh-huh.
33:12
So good.
33:13
I can't eat them.
33:14
Gluten.
33:15
You're gonna make this over.
33:17
Well, you know.
33:18
I'm just kidding.
33:19
I'm not dramatic at all.
33:20
Well, I am.
33:24
I want to cry.
33:25
Yeah.
33:26
You wanna play a game?
33:27
Always.
33:28
Before we get to our book.
33:28
Yep.
33:29
Thanksgiving Family Court.
33:30
Okay.
33:31
So, I'm gonna read the offense.
33:34
They can be forgiven, they can be banned for Thanksgiving for one year- Okay or they're permanently removed from the holiday guest list.
33:40
Okay.
33:40
All right, the offense.
33:42
Aunt Linda announces your pregnancy- Wait, timeout.
33:44
Oh.
33:44
Are there twists in this one like there was last week?
33:46
No.
33:46
Okay.
33:47
No.
33:47
Okay.
33:48
Go ahead.
33:48
I- Aunt Linda.
33:49
Aunt Linda announces your pregnancy to everyone before you've told anybody.
33:52
Banned.
33:53
Get out, Linda.
33:56
Nobody liked her sweet potato casserole anyway.
34:00
She put raisins in it?
34:01
She did put raisins in the potato salad.
34:03
Nobody wants you here.
34:04
Cousin Brittany brings her married boyfriend to Thanksgiving and introduces him as her soulmate.
34:10
I mean, I wanna keep him there just because I feel like there's gonna be some entertainment value in things.
34:13
Forgiven.
34:14
Yeah.
34:16
I'm gonna pretend I didn't hear nothing.
34:17
No.
34:18
I might egg it on a little bit.
34:19
Yeah.
34:19
I'd be,"Well, what makes you think that, Brett?" Ask the wife.
34:24
Yeah.
34:26
Stir the pot a little bit.
34:27
Oh, yeah.
34:28
Uncle Rick eats the crispy turkey skin straight off the bird before dinner.
34:31
We just talked about this.
34:32
That is a criminal offense.
34:34
It is a criminal offense.
34:35
And I- You get the turkey done on your head.
34:36
Yeah.
34:37
I, I'm thinking you can come back next year, but, like...
34:39
I think, no, he, he has to skip one year.
34:41
Removed for a full year.
34:42
Yeah.
34:43
He doesn't get to come to holidays next year.
34:44
Yeah.
34:44
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
34:44
You can co- yeah, skip a year, come back next, yeah.
34:46
And, and if you haven't learned your lesson- Then you're banned then you're banned for life.
34:49
Yeah.
34:49
Yeah.
34:50
Your mother-in-law brings her own gravy and announces yours is terrible.
34:54
Oh my God, I wanna cry just hearing this.
34:57
Banned for life.
34:58
Get outta here.
34:59
I'm sad for this person, this im- this imaginary person that they're- Get what you get- The mother- And you don't pitch a fit.
35:06
Don't pitch a fit.
35:06
Yeah.
35:07
Yeah, I'm sad.
35:08
First of all, they need a divorce.
35:10
Yes.
35:11
Well, and the mother-in-law.
35:12
It depends on how the husband- supports the wife.
35:14
if he's like- Yeah"Mama, give me your gravy" Right you need to go, too.
35:18
You can go with your mama.
35:19
Yes.
35:21
You and your mama.
35:22
Oh, my goodness.
35:23
Okay, I'm too sad to talk about that one anymore.
35:25
Okay.
35:25
Your sister-in-law brings seven unexpected guests and only one bag of dinner rolls.
35:30
I think you're banned for life.
35:31
Banned for life, you and your seven guests.
35:33
You gotta give me some kinda heads up so I can get the Uncrustables out.
35:37
Or the Hot Pockets.
35:40
You just, I don't, uh, bring as many people as you want to, but I just need some heads up.
35:43
Bring as many people as you want to, but they are getting the Hot Pockets.
35:46
Oh, good point.
35:49
But I do want the Uncrustables.
35:53
Your cousin secretly takes home every leftover container before anyone else finishes eating.
35:59
They're banned for life.
36:00
Forever.
36:00
Because they probably didn't even bring anything.
36:02
Right.
36:03
Ugh.
36:03
I hate those people.
36:04
Yeah, same.
36:06
Oh, that would make me so mad.
36:07
Me too.
36:08
Goodbye.
36:08
That was your last meal you're there.
36:09
They, they are the ones that brought either the rolls or the ice.
36:12
Yeah.
36:13
That's those people.
36:16
And they're 37.
36:17
And they stole your containers.
36:19
And they took my Rubbermaid.
36:20
That stuff's expensive.
36:22
And I finally found lids that matched all of the bottoms.
36:25
Yeah, that's a whole thing.
36:26
Oh, gosh, yeah.
36:27
That, just note to self, I need to get more of that stuff.
36:30
your brother proposes to his girlfriend during your Thanksgiving toast.
36:34
I'm okay with that.
36:35
I'm thankful, yeah.
36:35
If I like her.
36:36
Yeah.
36:38
Good point.
36:40
Or that could cause some family drama- Right at the dinner table.
36:42
Right.
36:44
Your aunt announces that everyone must pay$25 to enter her house for Thanksgiving.
36:50
I mean, I'm just leaving.
36:52
I don't think there's any judge that needs to say anything there, especially if I made something that probably cost more than$25.
36:58
Yeah.
36:58
Which is everything these days.
37:00
I saw, a lot of Reddit posts, though, that was like,"Am I the a-hole for, not going to Thanksgiving because the host didn't want anybody to bring anything?
37:10
They just wanted them to contribute financially." And I think one or the other is fine.
37:15
Right.
37:15
To be honest.
37:15
But it was like, I mean, it was like exorbitant financially.
37:17
It was like- Oh$100 or whatever.
37:19
Like, something crazy.
37:20
You're- Not even, for the family.
37:21
It was, per person.
37:22
Yeah, no, let's just take up love offering.
37:24
Give what you can.
37:26
Pass the collection plate.
37:27
Yeah.
37:28
I'm okay, honestly, I'm okay with either Was it you I was talking about this with?
37:32
When you host something and people forget stuff- Mm-hmm and you have to cover it anyway, like, I'd rather go ahead and have the things, y'all reimburse me- Yeah I'm fine with that.
37:41
Unless, okay, so here's the other side of it then, right?
37:44
Like, so everybody then s- just starts expecting you to do everything.
37:47
Yeah.
37:48
The family keeps growing.
37:49
Yeah.
37:50
You're- Cost keeps growing.
37:53
I can see where that would, like, just snowball and turn into a big- Yeah thing A big expense.
37:57
I just don't like to be expected...
37:59
I don't mind doing things, and I love- Mm-hmm doing things for people.
38:02
I don't want to be expected to.
38:04
Right.
38:04
Like, I don't want you to- I want- assume- Correct that I'm gonna do it.
38:08
I like doing it.
38:10
I like- But don't take advantage of it.
38:11
Right, and I like doing it when I can.
38:14
When, on my terms.
38:15
When, yeah, well, yeah, exactly.
38:17
But I mean, if it's something that's like an extra or a plus, it should kind of be on your terms.
38:21
Yeah.
38:21
Like, it shouldn't be they're demanding something that you're trying to give generously and they want it a specific way.
38:27
That's just ungrateful, and they need to stop.
38:29
Mm-hmm.
38:29
So I'm with you, on, kind of on my terms- Yeah when I want to do things for you.
38:34
Yeah.
38:34
And when I do things, I need you to be really appreciative.
38:37
Right, yeah.
38:38
You better be saying thank you.
38:39
Say thank you.
38:40
you know what I hate?
38:41
What?
38:42
I hate cloth napkins.
38:44
I think they're gross.
38:45
I do too.
38:46
I think they're gross.
38:47
Cloth napkins.
38:48
Pe- and people use them all the time at, weddings and stuff.
38:52
I think they're gross.
38:53
Ugh.
38:54
I know.
38:55
I don't like it.
38:55
I don't like it either.
38:57
They're like supposed to be fancy and Like hard, but I don't know.
39:00
Oh.
39:01
So most of the time when you go somewhere like a wedding or whatever, they're usually new.
39:06
Like I'm having to pop the tags off of them.
39:08
I'm going to pop them tags.
39:10
Pop them tags.
39:10
Um- I was right there with you but like restaurants, like we went to Outback the other day, which was phenomenal, but still, are you bleaching this?
39:19
Mm.
39:19
What are you doing with...
39:20
I, I brought my own napkin.
39:22
Thank you, though.
39:23
That's a lot of what, babe.
39:25
Yeah.
39:26
Oh, man.
39:26
Yeah.
39:27
Yeah.
39:27
X, gross, gross me.
39:28
That's pro- I know it's better for the environment, but I'm with you.
39:30
That's one of those things that I'm like- Don't like it what if somebody sneezed in this?
39:34
Okay, I gotta stop'cause I'm gonna go down this whole trail that I don't wanna go.
39:38
Yeah.
39:38
Okay.
39:39
Gross.
39:40
Yeah.
39:40
Okay.
39:41
Well, next week- We are, switching it up, because the last two books have been a flop for us, so we are gonna watch a movie.
39:50
Yeah.
39:50
What's wrong with us?
39:51
Like we're- these books are just- We've been struggling lately we're just in a place.
39:55
So we're gonna do a movie next week, and I'm really excited about this movie.
39:58
It's called Friendsgiving.
39:59
And it's from 2020.
40:00
It's on Peacock.
40:01
Yes.
40:01
Yeah.
40:02
So I am excited to watch a movie, and so- Me too.
40:04
It looks kind of like, not rom-com-ish but just drama and funny and randomness, I think.
40:10
I'm picturing it's totally gonna be different than this, but like The Hangover at Thanksgiving dinner.
40:14
You know?
40:15
That would be epic.
40:15
I need that.
40:16
Oh my God, that would be epic.
40:18
Right.
40:19
Trademark.
40:21
Copyright.
40:21
Yeah.
40:21
Thank you.
40:22
I looked at you like,"Say my words that I'm trying to say." No, I was trying to get it out, but I couldn't- It wasn't, it wasn't flowing- You don't take our freaking idea.
40:31
We are, are claiming this right now.
40:33
Yeah.
40:33
Okay.
40:34
And we can cast it'cause we're gonna be good at that.
40:36
Yes.
40:37
Okay, so what?
40:38
We should just make it.
40:39
We can.
40:40
Just get drunk.
40:42
Start making a movie.
40:44
I mean, just showing up- Hangover yeah.
40:46
Showing up at everybody's house, just crashing Thanksgiving Like I, I think like Wedding Crashers but Make It Thanksgiving.
40:54
Perfect Yeah.
40:55
Okay, so next week is Friendsgiving.
40:57
Yeah Movie from 2020.
40:58
Yes.
40:59
Peacock.
40:59
And so if you are not a bookie, you can exit now.
41:02
Please come back next week- Mm-hmm for all the family dramas and our movie.
41:06
And I normally make fun of you'cause you don't read, but books have been sucking lately, so.
41:09
Oh, I've been struggling.
41:10
Yeah, so not making fun of you.
41:12
You're making good choices.
41:13
We love you.
41:14
We love you.
41:14
Bye.
41:15
Five star review.
41:16
Okay, so this week, It was The Hunting Party by Lucy Foley.
41:19
Yes.
41:19
Okay, go ahead.
41:20
Sorry.
41:20
I don't know what was off, but it was just off.
41:24
The whole book?
41:24
Yeah.
41:24
Okay.
41:25
Yeah, same.
41:26
I mean, I hated it.
41:27
I made it, I think, like 40% through- Yeah and I was like- I finished it.
41:30
I just- Did you?
41:31
didn't love it.
41:33
Like- did any of it like end up making sense?
41:36
I mean, like you got out, like who did it- Yeah and all those things.
41:38
The premise of it was cool to me, like all the, the friends and the drama and the relationships and like the new girl.
41:45
It had all the elements to be an awesome book.
41:48
Mm-hmm.
41:48
It just didn't hit.
41:49
I don't, nope.
41:50
Maybe a better movie?
41:51
Maybe.
41:51
Like we talked about last week?
41:52
Yeah, yeah.
41:53
I think there's too many players.
41:54
Yeah, I felt like that too.
41:56
There's too many characters.
41:56
Yeah.
41:56
And- Was there just one narrator- Nope or was there?
41:59
See, that's where I got lost too.
42:01
There was different points of view.
42:02
It was different timelines.
42:03
It was- But they all sounded the same to me.
42:05
Right.
42:05
And I don't know what was wrong with me that I could not distinguish between all of that, and maybe that's why I didn't like it.
42:11
Right.
42:11
Maybe I shouldn't listen to things on 1.5 speed, but that's how I live my life.
42:15
I do too.
42:16
So characters that are in the book.
42:18
Yes.
42:18
We have Miranda, who is Julian's wife, and she's the queen bee of the group.
42:22
Mm-hmm.
42:23
Julian, Miranda's wealthy, charming husband, who kind of just got by on like looks and charm.
42:27
Kinda like me.
42:28
Yes.
42:28
His whole- Katie is Miranda's childhood best friend.
42:32
Mm-hmm.
42:32
She's single on the trip and secretly pregnant by Julian.
42:35
See, I thought everything was from her perspective.
42:38
No.
42:38
Okay.
42:39
So now it all is making a little bit more sense to me.
42:41
Yeah.
42:41
Pregnant by Julian.
42:42
Shut up.
42:43
Oh, yeah.
42:43
You get that far?
42:44
I didn't get that far.
42:44
Yeah.
42:45
No.
42:45
Yeah, she's, she's, yeah, pregnant by Julian.
42:47
Okay.
42:48
Emma is Mark's girlfriend, and she organized the trip, and she thought by doing this it was gonna get her, like, to be included- Mm-hmm, mm-hmm in the group because she feels like she's an outsider- Mm-hmm because all these people have been friends since college.
42:58
Is she also pregnant by Julian?
42:59
No.
43:00
But she's desperate for Miranda's approval.
43:02
Okay.
43:02
And she's also secretly a longtime stalker of Miranda.
43:06
Yes.
43:07
Mark is Julian's friend, Emma's boyfriend.
43:09
Has been obsessed with Miranda for years.
43:11
Everybody's obsessed with Miranda.
43:12
What does have Miranda have beer-flavored nipples?
43:14
I- Wasn't that in a movie?
43:16
Yeah.
43:16
I don't know what it was., Samara is another old friend, married to Giles, and has a baby named Priya.
43:23
Giles is Samara's husband.
43:25
Had a past sexual encounter with Miranda.
43:27
Miranda.
43:27
Let me guess.
43:29
Nick is a friend from the Oxford group.
43:31
Still carries resentment over Miranda outing him to his parents.
43:35
Beau is Nick's boyfriend, an outsider who sees this group's toxic dynamics.
43:39
Mm-hmm.
43:40
But secretly loves Miranda.
43:41
No.
43:41
Okay.
43:42
He's Nick's boyfriend.
43:44
Well, I mean...
43:46
Heather, the estate manager, former paramedic hiding from a painful past.
43:50
Doug is the estate gamekeeper, former Marine with PTSD and a violent history, and, Lane is the estate worker secretly involved in drug trafficking.
43:59
With Miranda.
44:00
No.
44:02
It's kind of like when you open a fortune cookie and everything has to say,"In bed." Yeah, yeah.
44:06
Everything with this is with Miranda.
44:08
With Miranda.
44:08
So I got none of that except for, some of the obsession and the,, that was kind- and she was an outsider.
44:14
Yeah.
44:14
That's all I got from the part that I read.
44:16
So this is already sounding much better.
44:18
But it sounds better, in theory.
44:20
Mm-hmm.
44:20
But once you put it in the book, it just- Maybe if we read it.
44:23
Maybe if we were the characters.
44:24
We need to be cast as the people that do the audiobooks.
44:28
People would love that shit.
44:29
They probably would.
44:30
We kind of rock.
44:31
Yeah.
44:33
I have been told when I do my hypnosis that I have a very soothing voice.
44:36
I have been told that I have a very annoying voice, but it's okay.
44:42
I sound like cornbread, but it doesn't matter.
44:45
All right.
44:45
So Miranda is the person, who the friend group is always- Mm-hmm centered around.
44:50
Mm-hmm.
44:51
She is charming enough to make everyone want her approval, but cruel enough that they carry years of resentment.
44:55
Okay.
44:56
Katie has spent much of her life in Miranda's shadow.
44:58
Mark has loved Miranda from afar.
45:00
Emma has desperately wanted to be accepted.
45:02
Nick has never entirely forgiven Miranda for betraying his trust.
45:05
Mm-hmm.
45:05
And Julian is what happens when somebody gets through life on charm and money without developing much of a conscience.
45:11
Mm-hmm.
45:12
These people have been friends since college, and at a certain point they're not actually friends.
45:17
They just have so much dirt on each other that they have to stay friends.
45:20
I've had relationships, not necessarily dirt, but just like you,- What kind of dirt you got?
45:24
No, I don't, I really don't have any good dirt.
45:27
But it's almost just like it turns into the norm.
45:29
Yeah.
45:30
It's just, yeah, routine.
45:31
It is what it is.
45:31
Right.
45:31
Yeah.
45:32
So what was the major, plot?
45:34
Okay.
45:34
So- Tell me all about this book.
45:36
So, okay.
45:37
December 30th is when they arrive at this estate.
45:40
Mm-hmm.
45:40
But the book actually opens on January 2nd when Heather, the lodge manager, learning that the gatekeeper, Doug, has discovered a body of a missing guest, which we don't find out who is dead yet.
45:50
Okay.
45:50
The body has been found near a waterfall with injuries suggesting murder rather than an accidental fall.
45:55
It was not the gatekeeper, I can tell you that right now.
45:58
No, it was not.
45:59
Mm-hmm.
46:00
But, Foley doesn't tell us who it is at first.
46:01
Okay.
46:02
Instead, she takes us back to December 30th when everybody arrives- Mm-hmm at the Scottish estate surrounded by mountains, wilderness, and miles of complete isolation.
46:11
That is not somewhere I would wanna go.
46:12
No.
46:13
No.
46:13
And I'm all about a Scottish castle, but mm-mm, I need some people nearby.
46:17
No, they're, secluded.
46:19
And I bet they didn't have Wi-Fi.
46:20
No, probably not.
46:22
Emma has organized everything.
46:24
She wants the trip to be perfect- Mm-hmm partly because she's still considered an outsider, even after dating Mark for several years.
46:29
Yep, and she wants Miranda's approval.
46:31
Everyone else has decades, long friendship, inside jokes, and shared memories, and she thinks that this is her way in.
46:37
Mm-hmm.
46:39
Just a little background, the estate covers 50,000 acres.
46:41
Wow.
46:42
It's like where that, couple lived where he hit the person on the bicycle.
46:45
Uh-huh.
46:46
A hard pass.
46:47
No, thank you.
46:48
Mm-mm.
46:48
That does not sound like a good time to me.
46:49
I don't wanna cut all that grass.
46:51
I just want people around for this exact- A, a, a, a few people situation.
46:58
And I could go, let's just go down to, 500 acres, that'd be fine.
47:01
Yeah.
47:02
That's, that's creepy.
47:04
Isolated yeah.
47:05
Access is limited particularly when s- severe snows starts to move in.
47:09
Mm-hmm.
47:10
There's a dark local history involving an old lodge destroyed by fire.
47:14
The group discovers they're sharing the property with an unexpected Icelandic couple.
47:18
There's talk of an unidentified serial killer operating in the wider highlands, and the friends are going hunting, meaning firearms are part of the holiday activities.
47:27
Basically, Foley has collected every possible ingredient for a murder mystery and put them- Mm-hmm all in one vacation.
47:33
Yeah That does sound like a lot, a lot of pieces.
47:36
But it's like setting it up to be like a great book.
47:39
Yeah.
47:39
It just didn't hit.
47:40
Yeah,'cause we were not the narrators.
47:43
Yeah.
47:43
So tell me who ends up dead Spoilers, but everybody knows Miranda.
47:48
Killed her.
47:49
Let me clutch my pearls.
47:51
Who killed her?
47:52
Was it Julian?
47:53
No.
47:54
Yeah, I know it wasn't the gatekeeper because he was violent and, but it was- It was Emma really?
47:59
Yeah.
47:59
She did not appreciate all her effort?
48:01
Why did she kill- Was it an accident?
48:03
Do you even remember?
48:04
Was it that terrible?
48:05
It was a terrible...
48:06
Hold on.
48:06
I it's in the notes, hold on.
48:07
Okay.
48:09
Well, Julian can now have his baby mama.
48:11
He sure can.
48:12
And all that entails.
48:13
Yeah.
48:14
Sure can.
48:16
Oh my...
48:17
I am just devastated.
48:19
Okay.
48:19
So, first night everybody's pretending to like everybody.
48:22
The reunion seems fun.
48:23
There's expensive food, plenty of alcohol, and familiar rhythm of longtime friends joking about their college years, but underneath all of it, stuff- Mm-hmm pieces start unraveling.
48:32
Time out.
48:33
It makes me so uncomfortable, and I always try to avoid this when I'm with people, that we have such a shared history, when there's people there who don't have that history, when all these people want to do is talk about that, I always try to wiggle around that, and include the other people.
48:48
I can't stand to be that person- Yeah that doesn't know all the things.
48:51
Be nice, people.
48:52
Yeah, yeah.
48:53
Okay, go.
48:54
Let's do a drinking game.
48:55
My God.
48:56
Right.
48:56
Never have I ever, let's go.
48:59
Miranda has been struggling with infertility, which is even worse because we know her best friend is now pregnant by her- Oh, so it was- husband oh my gosh.
49:07
Yeah.
49:07
The relationship has, become focused on her attempts to conceive, and they're both increasingly unhappy.
49:13
Miranda feels lonely, disconnected from her husband.
49:15
She also resents the way Samira's new baby has changed their friendship.
49:18
Samira is now focused on motherhood while Miranda is unable to have a child.
49:22
Yeah.
49:23
Katie, her oldest friend, barely seems interested in spending time with her anymore because she is knocked up by her husband.
49:29
So were they like a thing or was it a one-time thing?
49:31
Do we know?
49:31
I think they were having an affair.
49:32
Okay.
49:33
Meanwhile, Emma's watching everybody.
49:35
She's delighted when the others praise her planning.
49:37
She especially enjoys Miranda relying on her now that Katie and Samira are less available, so she is an opportunist.
49:44
She is.
49:45
So the group begins reminiscing about the mysterious stalker Miranda had back in Oxford.
49:49
Spoiler alert- I heard a little bit about that, yeah that was Emma.
49:52
Yeah, yeah.
49:53
Someone used to steal little possessions from Miranda and later- And then put them back return them with disturbing notes.
49:59
They all assumed the stalker was a man.
50:01
Miranda laughs about it now, but the experience actually terrified her.
50:04
Mm-hmm.
50:05
She also knows that the stalker somehow learned private things about her, including her shoplifting, academic dishonesty, and relationship secrets.
50:11
the following day the friends go out stag hunting with Doug, the estate gamekeeper.
50:15
Miranda thinks it's all a bit ridiculous.
50:17
The men are suddenly acting tough and competitive, despite being rich c- city professionals.
50:22
Mm-hmm.
50:22
I was gonna say city boys.
50:24
Who aren't particularly experienced outdoors men.
50:27
Then there's Emma, quiet, agreeable, seemingly harmless.
50:30
Emma turns out to be an excellent shot.
50:32
No.
50:33
In fact, she's the best shot in the group and successfully kills a deer.
50:38
I mean, okay, go Emma.
50:40
Later they eat the deer.
50:42
The hunting scene also forces the characters to confront what they've participated in.
50:46
Katie feels uncomfortable about killing an animal for entertainment, especially as the group seems to be enjoying the power and excitement of hunting.
50:53
Mm.
50:53
On New Year's Eve they do a game of truth or dare.
50:56
Talk about, uh, marriages, careers- Mm-hmm children, and they use the game to humiliate each other.
51:02
Oh, good.
51:02
That sounds really healthy.
51:04
Miranda admits that she slept with somebody else at the table.
51:07
She- refuses to say who.
51:08
It was a female though, wasn't it?
51:10
We later learn, the person was Giles, Samara's husband.
51:13
Really?
51:14
I didn't know Giles had it in him.
51:17
Their encounter happened years earlier before the current family set up, but Giles desperately wants to keep it from his wife.
51:23
I'm not as interested anymore.
51:25
Miranda dares Katie to go into a freezing lake.
51:28
Katie actually does it.
51:29
That's important because their entire friendship is built on a pattern of Miranda setting the terms for Katie and, and Katie accepting them.
51:36
Katie has spent years resenting the fact that Miranda can pressure her and manipulate her- Uh-huh which is why she banged her husband.
51:41
Uh-huh.
51:43
Uh-huh.
51:43
Mark and the other men become increasingly drunk and rowdy.
51:46
They even break a glass coffee table while they're wrestling.
51:51
In the middle of this, Emma's watching her carefully constructed perfect party collapse into drunken nonsense.
51:57
Mm-hmm.
51:58
Uh, It does sound really good I- in theory, it just didn't read well.
52:02
No, it didn't.
52:03
Like, the setup was great.
52:05
It just was...
52:06
Might have been the audiobook.
52:07
Yeah, maybe.
52:08
Maybe I need to reread, but.
52:10
So the secrets.
52:11
Mm-hmm.
52:12
Secret one, Katie is sleeping with Julian.
52:14
Mm-hmm.
52:14
Okay.
52:15
Katie and Miranda have been friends since they were little girls.
52:17
Katie's always the quieter, less glamorous friend who lived in Miranda's shadow.
52:21
As adults, Katie became a successful but lonely lawyer.
52:24
She works long hours and increasingly avoided her old social circle.
52:28
I don't blame you.
52:30
No.
52:30
Although you didn't avoid Julian.
52:32
Mm-mm.
52:32
One evening before a trip, Katie runs into Julian at a bar.
52:35
They get talking about their lives, which they're both unhappy.
52:38
Mm-hmm.
52:38
Julian confesses his marriage is struggling.
52:40
Katie discovers a different side of him.
52:42
They start drinking, and they have sex in a alleyway.
52:45
Katie.
52:45
she continues the affair.
52:46
She gets knocked up.
52:48
Nobody knows.
52:50
Secret two, Miranda has been involved in Julian's shady business dealings.
52:53
Julian has been using dubious financial arrangements, including insider trading.
52:57
Miranda's previously helped with a business-related website project and received a suspiciously large payment.
53:04
So it's all illegal, and- Mm-hmm she's in on it.
53:07
Mm-hmm.
53:08
Secret number three, Mark is still obsessed with Miranda.
53:10
Mark is with Emma, but he's never really gotten over his feelings for Miranda.
53:14
During the trip, his behavior becomes increasingly inappropriate.
53:17
He touches Miranda without her consent, corners her, and tries to persuade her that Julian isn't good enough for her.
53:22
Miranda rejects him, and he becomes threatening.
53:25
Secret four, Giles and Miranda slept together, which we've already discussed.
53:28
Yeah.
53:29
That's not as juicy.
53:29
No.
53:30
Mm-mm.
53:30
So those are all the secrets that- Okay is going on right now.
53:34
Then on New Year's Day, Miranda discovers Julian and Katie together in the sauna area.
53:38
It's unmistakably sexual.
53:39
Miranda is absolutely devastated.
53:42
The two people that should have been her most loyal have betrayed her.
53:46
miranda puts it together that Katie's pregnant with Julian's baby, so they start fighting.
53:52
She tells Julian that she's going to expose his illegal financial activities and that she plans to leave the estate and return to London.
53:58
Okay.
53:59
After discovering Julian and Katie's affair, Miranda's emotionally unraveling.
54:02
She goes to Doug's cottage with champagne and makes an advance towards him.
54:06
Doug rejects her.
54:08
That's another blow to someone who's accustomed to receiving attention and admiration, so she just is used to getting what she wants.
54:13
Yeah.
54:14
He's like,"Absolutely not." So she goes- Screw you, Doug so then she goes to Emma's cottage for comfort.
54:20
Miranda is upset about her husband and her best friend, and Emma appears to be the person she can trust, but while she's there, Miranda notices a box.
54:27
Inside are her personal belongings that had disappeared years earlier, so here's where she finds out that Emma- That it was Emma was a stalker.
54:35
She, Emma initially tries to explain box by suggesting that items belong to Mark, but Miranda looks through it and sees that it's her stuff.
54:43
Mm-hmm.
54:44
Emma's real name was originally Emmaline, and she had a history of becoming obsessed with popular girls, copying their appearance and personalities, and engaging in stalking behavior.
54:52
Mm-hmm.
54:53
She was expelled from her school.
54:55
I just wanna know- Why Miranda's like that.
54:58
She's so manipulative Well, it's just like that mean girl.
55:01
But even, going to the freaking gamekeeper's house, like, she just, expected him to just be like,"Hey, girl." Well,'cause she always gets what she wants.
55:10
I guess.
55:10
Some people are just like- I guess, yeah so Miranda's horrified by the discovery of Emma and she leaves the cottage.
55:16
Emma follows her into the freezing wilderness and they end up near a bridge over a waterfall.
55:20
Emma desperately tries to explain that she only wanted to be Miranda's friend.
55:23
Miranda is terrified and angry.
55:25
Yeah She insults Emma and calls her a weirdo.
55:27
I mean- Ooh fair.
55:29
Yeah, a weirdo.
55:31
I could come up with something right now better than weirdo.
55:34
Yeah.
55:34
The word hits an especially painful nerve at, for Emma, reminding her of the humiliation from childhood.
55:39
Okay.
55:40
She loses control, grabs Miranda by the throat and strangles her until she goes limp, and then she pushes Miranda off the bridge.
55:46
She called her a weirdo and that's what flipped the switch because of the history.
55:51
Oh, yeah.
55:52
Okay.
55:52
So she ends up killing her.
55:53
I thought maybe it was an accident no, uh-uh.
55:56
Like a fight that turned into, but that was, that was pretty intentional- Mm-hmm dang it, Emma., So then Heather and Doug find the body.
56:02
It's during a snowstorm so police can't get there immediately.
56:06
Heather tries to figure out what happened, and then everybody's a suspect- Yeah blah, blah, blah.
56:11
Yeah.
56:12
They kinda go through, like, why everybody thinks that- It's one or the other yeah, and then they, they bring in, like, this random the Highland Ripper serial killer that, came out of the blue.
56:21
And then Scotland Yard shows up.
56:23
Yeah., After Ian tells Heather what he witnessed, I think he witnessed them arguing- Okay at one point.
56:31
Yeah she becomes the main suspect.
56:34
Mm-hmm.
56:35
Emma's already becoming increasingly unstable, like freaking out, being, you know, well, I mean, she just killed somebody, so.
56:41
Well, and she has stalking tendencies, so yeah.
56:43
She- She's a problem she convinces herself that Katie is responsible for Miranda's death in her head.
56:49
Yeah, I mean, it's so, like, all over the place.
56:52
Uh-huh, yeah.
56:53
So her reasoning is that if Katie hadn't slept with Julian, Miranda wouldn't have been devastated.
56:58
If Miranda hadn't been devastated, she wouldn't have visited Emma.
57:01
And if Miranda hadn't discovered Emma stalking, Emma wouldn't have killed her.
57:05
So it's all Katie's fault.
57:07
Okay.
57:08
Okay okay, so what happens, Emma is convicted of manslaughter rather than murder and sentenced to four years in prison.
57:14
Katie prepares to have Julian's baby and decided to build a different life and healthier friendships.
57:19
Good idea.
57:20
Julian disappears on a detox retreat with a yoga instructor.
57:24
Mark moves on and finds another girlfriend.
57:26
Okay.
57:27
Heather recovers from her injuries and decides, to leave the isolated estate and reconnect with her regular life.
57:33
I thought she was gonna end up with Doug.
57:35
Doug remains supportive of Heather, and the possibility of a future connection between them is left open.
57:40
Oh, see?
57:41
Nick and Bo move to New York.
57:42
Samira and Giles focus on raising their family.
57:44
Mm-hmm.
57:45
And Lane confesses to the police about the drug operation.
57:49
Okay.
57:50
So that's- Sounds great in theory.
57:54
Sounds great in theory.
57:55
Great movie.
57:55
Yeah, I think so too.
57:57
Be kind of eerie.
57:58
Yeah.
57:58
Lot of suspense stuff.
58:00
Mm-hmm.
58:00
Liam Neeson'd be in there somewhere.
58:01
Oh, yeah.
58:02
Mm-hmm.
58:03
He'd be the gatekeeper.
58:04
Yeah.
58:05
Yeah.
58:05
Mm-hmm.
58:06
Mm.
58:06
Should have been a good book, kind of sucked all right, so that's really it for today.
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