Latest / 4-Freedom Podcast / 133. Freedom In The Church - Bible Translations - The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
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- 0:04Welcome to the For Freedom podcast.
- 0:10I found my freedom in you. I found a joy I can't lose.
- 0:19And thank God it's true. You wrapped your arms around me
- 0:23and heaven broke through From the moment she found me.
- 0:28I found my freedom in you. This podcast exists to bring the
- 0:35freedom of the gospel for everyday Christians with
- 0:38everyday issues. Now here are your host, James
- 0:42Seifert and Brett Martin. Welcome back to the corporate
- 0:47Podcast and it's exciting to be back with you.
- 0:50We are winding down for our first half of the year, 2024.
- 0:56It is crazy to think that we're in the month of May and we are
- 1:00getting closer to our summertime.
- 1:03Me and my wife were Brett. We're just now we're talking
- 1:06about our summer. And she said, hey, I need you to
- 1:09send me all of the summer dates so we can make sure that our
- 1:13calendars are lining up and I'm going to be.
- 1:17I sent her these dates. I want to look look at this with
- 1:21you here. It was 12345 weeks in the summer
- 1:27that we have something planned the entire week.
- 1:29We've got our convention coming up.
- 1:31We've got youth camp, we've got kids camp, we've got vacation
- 1:35Bible school, and then we're doing what's called a serve
- 1:38week, where we are going to set up a shop here in the local
- 1:41community. And we're just going to serve
- 1:44however we can. Basketball camps, volleyball
- 1:46camps, baseball camps. We're going to go outdoor
- 1:49knocking. We're going to do some service
- 1:52at home projects, cutting down trees, cleaning up people's
- 1:54yards, mowing the school, painting walls at the school,
- 1:59just whatever we can do to serve, hand out food boxes that
- 2:02whole week and just be a blessing the community.
- 2:05So five weeks out of our eight week summer we're we've got
- 2:08something going on. Plus somewhere in there we're
- 2:10going to do a vacation. So we are, we are winding really
- 2:14close to our summer break, but it won't quite be a break.
- 2:18We're still going to be doing a lot of stuff just with our
- 2:20churches and families. So how, how are you doing, man?
- 2:23Are you excited about winding this down and getting ready for
- 2:25a summer well? You know, funny you should
- 2:28mention that because tonight I'm getting ready to.
- 2:31I'm going through a book on Wednesday nights.
- 2:33I'm going through growing up, you know, by Robbie Gallity, you
- 2:37know how to be disciples and make disciples.
- 2:39And I've been doing this. I was like, how long?
- 2:42When did I start going through this book?
- 2:44And I started back in December and that's been five months.
- 2:48And it's amazing that we have been you know we have been
- 2:52plugging along and the year's almost halfway done it.
- 2:56It's unreal. And yeah we've got we've got
- 2:58busy we've got a busy summer too on schedule.
- 3:02Not only do we have our vacation Bible school, we've got
- 3:06Indianapolis around the same time.
- 3:09Then we're having a mission where we're going to another
- 3:13church in the area that, you know, they're struggling and
- 3:18they want a revitalization and we're going to help them put on
- 3:22a vacation. Bible school So.
- 3:24Our workers are going to drive to their church and help them
- 3:27put on a vacation Bible school and they just got a pastor two
- 3:31weeks ago and we're excited about that.
- 3:33I'm excited to get in touch with him and we're going to help that
- 3:36church out and reach out to them.
- 3:39We just had a meeting, me and you with our, you know,
- 3:43missionary that we're going on a mission trip this fall.
- 3:46And then after we got done with our meeting, I had of some more
- 3:50people reach out to me from my church to say I want to go on
- 3:53the mission trip with you to Nicaragua.
- 3:56Let me see if I can get the days off work.
- 3:59And so lot of things happened, lot of things going on, busy,
- 4:04busy ministry. And like I said, that is, I tell
- 4:07you what, I just got back from Jacksonville well a couple days
- 4:12ago and man, the work was just piling up on my desk like, it's
- 4:17like the closer I I got driving home, The closer I got home, the
- 4:23more. Stuff I thought of.
- 4:25That I need to do every 5 minutes.
- 4:27I was like, Siri, remind me to do this.
- 4:29Siri, remind me to do this. I was making phone calls the
- 4:33closer I got home and for the last two days I've been non-stop
- 4:38hit the ground running. But you know what?
- 4:40I would rather be busy doing ministry work than I would be at
- 4:44a factory somewhere. I'd be rather be, you know, busy
- 4:47doing Ministry work than changing oil like I did for 15
- 4:51years. So I am not complaining.
- 4:54I am enjoying what the Lord has for me and we're looking forward
- 5:00to just moving forward with the Ministry.
- 5:03I love it. That's so good.
- 5:04And I was telling Brett when we got on here, before he got his
- 5:09accredited degree and became a full time official senior pastor
- 5:14with all the roles and responsibilities, I'm not quite
- 5:18there with the the busyness. Yet that's what's keeping me
- 5:21from becoming an accredited degree is 'cause, you know, I
- 5:23just don't want to add on all those extra bells and whistles
- 5:26and smells and bells of things. And so I.
- 5:29I I get to wear the collar, now I can.
- 5:31That's right, you get to put on the priestly collar, the peace
- 5:34and you. Have to start calling me
- 5:35reverend. Reverend, Reverend is when you
- 5:38get ordained in in the South, I would say in the South where
- 5:43we're at, if you're not ordained your pastor, if you ordained
- 5:47your reverend. And so the Reverend, I love it.
- 5:51Well, hey, we have a great exciting episode today.
- 5:55Before we get started with that, we have, as both of us
- 5:58mentioned, the convention is coming up right around the
- 6:00corner. JC just shared a post about if
- 6:03you're going to be at the convention to go by and see the
- 6:05Luther Rice booth, where him, I guess he's going to be there
- 6:09with Marcus. And so that's going to be great.
- 6:11And so we're going to be there. So I guess J, CS going to be
- 6:14able to hang out with us. And so if you want to meet up
- 6:18with us while we're there, let us know.
- 6:20And we're going to have a great time of fellowship, a great time
- 6:23of just hanging out. And and then after that, Brett,
- 6:27we've got another time of hanging out.
- 6:30Yeah, for the sake of the Gospel Conference in Catoosa County,
- 6:34Georgia, which is near Chattanooga, Fort Oglethorpe, GA
- 6:38And that's going to be at J CS Church.
- 6:40And it's kind of Chattanooga's. You know, it's centrally
- 6:43located, you know, for people, you know, kind of in the Central
- 6:46States and the Eastern seaboard to kind of meet together there
- 6:50in Chattanooga. So some of you as far as Texas
- 6:53can come. And like I said we had, we had a
- 6:55couple from Alaska come to the last for the sake of the Gospel
- 6:58Conference when it was in Asheville.
- 7:01But man, it's going to be big this year.
- 7:03It's going to be JC has already talked to me about how big he
- 7:07wants it to be and it's going to be first class and you're not
- 7:10going to be disappointed. If you can get away for a couple
- 7:13of days, come to Catoosa and come to Hope Church Catoosa and
- 7:18come to the For the sake of the Gospel Conference, it's going to
- 7:21be a refresh, a recharge and it is going to be something that
- 7:26you'll remember. I every worship service that
- 7:30I've ever been to at a meet up or for the sake of the gospel
- 7:34conference has been some of the best worship that I've ever
- 7:39experienced in my life. And so, you know, it's, it's
- 7:45hymns only, KJV only song. So yeah, you're going to enjoy
- 7:52it, come to that. And then what we got next,
- 7:55Israel? Israel's coming up Brett before
- 7:58we talk about Israel I I received this yesterday.
- 8:02We were at a our association. It's the second year we did it.
- 8:06It was the it's called the senior adult revival.
- 8:10I've never been a part of it before.
- 8:11My life only been to the this association here in Elkin
- 8:16Baptist Association for six or seven months now, almost eight
- 8:20months where we're at and some reason someone suggested me to
- 8:24come preach on that Monday night or the Monday afternoon.
- 8:27They do it at 11:00 and they give everybody a meal
- 8:30afterwards. And so they asked me to come and
- 8:32preach. And so I preached on Monday and
- 8:35got to share the share the word. I talked about Epaphroditus in
- 8:40Philippians where he was an encourager and a servant.
- 8:43Talk about servanthood. It was a great service, great
- 8:46time. I was the youngest guy in the
- 8:47room by like 20 years so that was really encouraging.
- 8:51I told them they must have really been scraping the bottom
- 8:53of the barrel to find a 35 year old guy to come in and preach
- 8:57the senior adult revival. But the next day they did it two
- 9:01nights. The next night was next day was
- 9:02at a different church and a man came up to it to me and gave me.
- 9:07You can see it, but it's a little quilt looking pattern.
- 9:10And on the back it says this is a a pocket prayer quilt.
- 9:15It says my our prayer is that when you touch the cross that's
- 9:18inside of this, you'll feel the comfort and love of Jesus
- 9:21surrounding you. Today I just thought, you know,
- 9:24it's got one of those little metal crosses in it that we
- 9:26talked about the other day and just someone being unique with
- 9:30trying to share the gospel. And he had a whole stack of them
- 9:33and he was giving them out to people that was there.
- 9:35I just think it was a great way of evangelism and sharing the
- 9:38gospel with people in a in a really cool way.
- 9:41And so I wanted to share that with you.
- 9:44It was sitting here on my desk and it reminded me of it.
- 9:47Yeah, Israel. Yeah, Israel's coming up, man.
- 9:49We're excited about Israel. Everything's still a go.
- 9:53And we hope you'll join us again.
- 9:55Our registration link is on our website.
- 9:57We've already got several people signed up for that from the
- 10:00previous trip. And then we'll be going back
- 10:02this year with the rescheduled trip, and I'm sorry, next year
- 10:062025. And so we hope you'll go and
- 10:10enjoy that time with us. It's going to be a great time
- 10:13learning, seeing the Holy Land, seeing what we got to see and
- 10:18even more. And I know your spiritual life
- 10:21will be encouraged by it. So if you have any questions
- 10:23about that, please reach out to me or Brett through Messenger or
- 10:27our direct cell numbers or e-mail, however you want to do
- 10:30that. And we would love to entertain
- 10:32any questions that you may have. Brett, why don't you intro the
- 10:36episode of what we're going to be talking about today?
- 10:38We're going to do something a little different and Brett's
- 10:41going to talk about what that's going to be here.
- 10:44So we're in our series Freedom in the Church and we went
- 10:50through several aspects of the church and one of the things
- 10:53that we wanted to address were Bible translations.
- 10:57Because we are talking about in the church, what are the you
- 11:00know what? What are some of the pros, cons,
- 11:04peculiarities of certain translations that you use in
- 11:09church? And you know, while back in our
- 11:13church I preached a message, I preached a little series of
- 11:16message messages on where we got our Bible.
- 11:22Where did it come from? Has the Bible changed over the
- 11:26years? And then the last message in
- 11:28that series was Bible translations.
- 11:32The good, the bad and the ugly and where we go.
- 11:36Through. Several modern translations and
- 11:40describe where they came from. What was the motivation behind
- 11:45them? Are they word for word, thought
- 11:47for thought? Dynamic equivalents, things like
- 11:50that? What are some peculiarities
- 11:53about that particular translations?
- 11:56And we go through several modern translations and you know, we
- 11:59were talking about how we can incorporate this into an
- 12:03episode. And then me and James kind of
- 12:05had the same thought. Well, let's.
- 12:07Just post the sermon. So, you know, this is from my
- 12:11last sermon in that Bible translations series that I
- 12:16preached. We're going to play that for you
- 12:18in just a second. Now, I want to preface this with
- 12:20saying that a lot of you know who Mike Winger is.
- 12:24I want you to know that that this, this message that I'm
- 12:27about to preach has come. From.
- 12:30Mike Winger and I told my people that when I started the series
- 12:34that he, Mike Winger. He's got a YouTube channel.
- 12:38For those of you who don't know, he was one of the people that
- 12:41kind of, you know, corrected me on the King James only issue
- 12:47before I even got into the RFPI was listening to Mike Winger and
- 12:52he was already correcting my thinking on some wrong doctrines
- 12:57that I had been taught, one of them being the King James Bible.
- 13:00And this is part of his series that you're about to hear.
- 13:06I kind of take his message, I kind of adopt it and I I preach
- 13:10it to my people because it's good information.
- 13:14So like I said, I don't want to take all the credit.
- 13:17Most of the credit needs to go to Mike Winger.
- 13:19But this is still good, good stuff, especially when it comes
- 13:24to talking about some of the modern translations that we use
- 13:27in our churches today. Great.
- 13:30Well, I hope you enjoy it today. And without further ado, let us
- 13:33play this for you. Alrighty.
- 13:36We are continuing in our series. This is our last message in our
- 13:42series on how we got the Bible, and we're going to talk about
- 13:46Bible translations tonight, The good, the bad and the ugly.
- 13:51We don't have the screens tonight.
- 13:52I apologize, but we don't have that many verses and I'm going
- 13:55to read them to you. Like I said, I want to start out
- 13:59by saying this does not come from me.
- 14:01This is from a study done by a pastor named Mike Winger.
- 14:05He's on YouTube. But when I listen to this mess,
- 14:09this series of messages six years ago, it changed my life.
- 14:12And so I want to share with you, and this is a very good message
- 14:17on Bible translations. So the issue here is, can I
- 14:24trust my English translations of the Bible?
- 14:28What are the differences in these translations?
- 14:31Are there any translations out there that are meant to
- 14:35undermine my faith? Because that a lot of people say
- 14:38that in this series we've talked a lot about the Greek
- 14:42transmission of the text, but we're not, we don't speak Greek,
- 14:46do we? We speak English?
- 14:49And so before we get into these new translations, let's talk for
- 14:53a few minutes about why new translations come out in the
- 14:56first place. I hate to say this, but the
- 14:59number one reason new translations come out is money.
- 15:03Money is the reason publishing companies they want their own
- 15:07translation of the Bible where they don't have to pay another
- 15:11publishing company money when they quote the Bible.
- 15:15So they don't want to pay royalties to another publishing
- 15:18house. And so that's that's number one
- 15:22reason. Listen, Bibles are big, Bibles
- 15:25are are popular. Bibles are constantly left off
- 15:30the bestseller last lists. You know why they're ignored?
- 15:34Because they'd always be #1. The Bible is the most best
- 15:39selling book of all time, and that's a good thing.
- 15:42The second reason is that English changes over time, and
- 15:46we'll get into that more when we talk about the King James Bible,
- 15:50because it's a much older translation.
- 15:52We'll get into specific words, and I hope we can understand
- 15:56that English changes quick. It's it's changing quickly every
- 16:00day. There's always new words being
- 16:03added to the dictionary. A third reason why we have new
- 16:07translations is new Greek manuscripts being discovered.
- 16:12OK, so we've always had basically two readings of
- 16:18certain passages We've had reading A and reading B.
- 16:21Reading A would be in the text, Reading B would be in the
- 16:25footnote. Then we discover these new Greek
- 16:27manuscripts and we read them and they're like, oh, it's the other
- 16:29way around. So we'll put like reading B in
- 16:33the text and A in the footnote. So it's not like when we
- 16:36discover these new Greek manuscripts, we're getting brand
- 16:40new readings. So let me give you a brief
- 16:44overview of what I mean when I say we have new Greek
- 16:46manuscripts. In 1611, when the King James
- 16:49Version came out, they based the King James Version, basically
- 16:53golf of six Greek manuscripts. The earliest manuscript was from
- 16:58the 10th century, so that's 1000 years removed from Christ.
- 17:03The latest manuscript was from the 13th century.
- 17:07So in 1881 when the revised version came out, it was based
- 17:14on about 2000 manuscripts. And the earliest of those wasn't
- 17:20the 10th century, it was the 3rd or 4th century.
- 17:25OK, so this is what I mean when I say we have a lot more
- 17:30manuscripts. We have a lot more evidence for
- 17:33what the disciples actually wrote and said.
- 17:36Today there's over 5800 Greek manuscripts.
- 17:41The earliest dates back to the late 1st, early 2nd century.
- 17:47So from 1611 to now, there's a lot more evidence to sift
- 17:50through. So we have money, we have
- 17:53English language changing, we have new manuscripts, and #4 we
- 17:58have new insights into old languages.
- 18:01So this is about our understanding of Greek changing.
- 18:06In 1895, we came to learn that the Greek that was spoken in the
- 18:12New Testament was common Greek, Koine Greek.
- 18:17OK, it's the common language that everybody spoke.
- 18:21Now that's not news to me and you, but back then they didn't
- 18:27know that, OK? They they didn't know that
- 18:30around the time when the King James was being written, the
- 18:33versions Bibles before and after the King James.
- 18:38They they didn't know that. In fact, a lot of people thought
- 18:42that the Bible Greek was special Greek that was made-up by the
- 18:47Holy Spirit. OK, there were like 500 Greek
- 18:52words. Nobody knew what they meant.
- 18:56So they had 500 Greek words that weren't used anywhere else.
- 19:01So you had to look at the context of where the word was in
- 19:04the Bible and guess at the meaning of the word.
- 19:07You know, they had a name for this.
- 19:08They called it Holy Ghost Greek. All right.
- 19:11That's what litter, what they call it.
- 19:12They called it Holy Ghost Greek. Now today we have about 50
- 19:17unknown words. So we've dwindled that down from
- 19:20500 down to about 50 words. These are words we can't find
- 19:26used anywhere else outside the New Testament.
- 19:30So as our understanding of these Greek words grow, it would stand
- 19:34to reason we need a Bible translation that reflects that.
- 19:37All right, let me give you a couple of examples.
- 19:41It is finished, Testelistai. Now I know you've heard it
- 19:46preached that a preacher would get up and say man, when that
- 19:50phrase test, tell us. I when Jesus said that what they
- 19:53would do is they would take that phrase and they would write that
- 19:57on your receipt when you paid your bill and admit you're paid
- 20:01in full and man that that that's a beautiful meaning of that
- 20:05word. And we didn't know that to post
- 20:08KJV. So now we have a fuller
- 20:11understanding of it. Another example is only
- 20:14begotten. We've come to know that only
- 20:16begotten mean literally means one and only unique son.
- 20:20We know that today. That doesn't change things
- 20:24drastically, just gives it more clarity.
- 20:27And so it was thought that Bible translations should reflect the
- 20:30original. And since the Bible was written
- 20:33in common Greek, it probably should be written for English
- 20:37speaking people in common English that everybody,
- 20:40everybody uses. Most people want to use whatever
- 20:44version your church uses. And that's that's fine.
- 20:47I mean, you want to be on the same page as the pastor.
- 20:50You don't always want to be, you know, not knowing where he's at.
- 20:54Some people say, man, they're just the KJV.
- 20:58There's just man. There's just nothing that feels
- 21:00like the KJV. There's there's nothing that it
- 21:03just feels like the Bible, just it sounds like the Bible.
- 21:08But The thing is, the reality is whatever you used to sounds like
- 21:13the Bible, all right, whatever you used to.
- 21:16Some people can go into big cathedrals with big stained
- 21:20glass windows and the tapestries and the artwork and the mural
- 21:26and just come in and be like this just feels like church,
- 21:31Just feels like church. And I go in there, I'm like,
- 21:34what? Just a big building to me.
- 21:37I'm like, your church is in a storefront, man that feels like
- 21:40church, you know, that's that's what I think church feels like.
- 21:43You know, So you know, it's a little subjective to say that
- 21:49it's fine to be used to something and but don't say it's
- 21:53the only word of God just because it feels like the word
- 21:55of God. That's too subjective.
- 21:57Let's not spiritualize things we're used to.
- 22:00And the early church, the Bible sounded like common language.
- 22:04So you know, there is no Greek equivalent to thee, and thou
- 22:10doesn't have no Greek equivalent to that.
- 22:13So it's OK, but it's not required.
- 22:14It's acceptable, but it's not required.
- 22:16It's not in the Greek. So let's not insist on it.
- 22:19OK, so you do realize you have a translation in your hands?
- 22:23This is a translation you have. Paul did not speak English.
- 22:27In fact, English did not exist in the day of Paul.
- 22:32The joke goes What? The King James Version was good
- 22:34enough for Paul, It's good enough for me.
- 22:37Well, he didn't have the King James English Version back then.
- 22:42It wasn't around. It didn't exist.
- 22:44We are second language Christians.
- 22:47We take the Bible from the Greek and we try to understand it in
- 22:51our own language. And we're lucky we have hundreds
- 22:54of translations to choose from, way more than I have to go over
- 22:58in one service. So what we're going to do is
- 23:02we're going to look at translations.
- 23:04We're going to look some of the most popular translations
- 23:06tonight. We're going to compare some of
- 23:10the different versions. So the first thing we're going
- 23:12to look at is what is the textural basis?
- 23:17So is it newer manuscripts or older?
- 23:20Second thing we're going to look at with each translation is a
- 23:23translation methodology. Is it word for word or is it
- 23:28more thought for thought? Excuse me.
- 23:33And of course word for word is a fancy term for that is formal
- 23:38equivalence. That's the fancy term.
- 23:41And the advantage of a word for word translation is man.
- 23:43You get to dig in and really see what those word means, and you
- 23:48get nuance from the text. But the disadvantage is that if
- 23:53you translate it word for word all the time into English, it
- 23:57would just be nonsense because it's another language.
- 24:01And then there's thought for thought or phrase for phrase,
- 24:03and the fancy term for that is dynamic equivalence.
- 24:06And this is where you're willing to change the exact wording in
- 24:11order to preserve the exact meaning.
- 24:13OK. For instance, in Matthew 118, it
- 24:16it, it, it just, it talks about how, you know, tells us that
- 24:21Mary was pregnant and it says she was with child.
- 24:24OK. In the actual Greek it reads,
- 24:28and I quote, Mary was found to be having it in the belly.
- 24:34That's what it says in the Greek.
- 24:36Now, if you were a Jew, that would make sense to you.
- 24:39If you're Greek first language, Bible, Greek man, that would
- 24:42that would make sense to you. English people?
- 24:45Not so much. OK, so these types of
- 24:48translations are easy to understand.
- 24:51The thought for thought, word for word translations.
- 24:54But anytime you simplify something, you lose nuance.
- 24:58OK, so there's disadvantage to both.
- 25:00So most translations have a sliding scale between these
- 25:05things. Some will be more word for word
- 25:08and other areas they'll be more thought for thought.
- 25:10And then #3 will be we'll just call #3 be peculiarities.
- 25:15I have a hard time with that word.
- 25:17Don't don't get on to me if I slaughter that word.
- 25:19All right? So let's get right into it.
- 25:23Of course, the first thing we're going to talk about is a 1611
- 25:26King James Bible. OK?
- 25:29Turns out to be the ancestor to a lot of our modern
- 25:32translations. The textural basis is 6 meet
- 25:36Greek manuscripts that Erasmus put together to to that they
- 25:41used to make the King James Bible.
- 25:43Funny enough, it's not a direct translation into Greek from the
- 25:47Greek, OK. They took influence from other
- 25:51English Bible such as the Geneva Bible, the Tyndale Bible, the
- 25:55Bishop's Bible were all used in creating the King James Bible.
- 25:59It's interesting that I always thought this is interesting out.
- 26:02I can't remember if I've told you all this in a couple weeks
- 26:04past as we've been in this or not.
- 26:06But this is an interesting story.
- 26:07When Erasmus was was putting together this, this text that
- 26:11the King James is based off of, he's translating it and he
- 26:15figures out the last couple little pages of Revelation fell
- 26:19out. This is a true story.
- 26:20It's well documented. And So what he did so he didn't
- 26:23have those last verses of Revelation is he went to the
- 26:26Latin Vulgate and he guessed at what the Greek words would have
- 26:30been. OK, So what we have is the last
- 26:33several verses of Revelation, where the result is Greek, new
- 26:37Greek readings that don't exist in any other Greek manuscript on
- 26:41the planet Earth. OK, it's nothing horrendous.
- 26:44It's just like close but not exactly right.
- 26:48So at the end of Revelation in the King James, when it says
- 26:51this part will be taken out of the book of life, Well, the
- 26:54problem is, in Latin, the word for book and tree are very
- 26:57similar. You look at any other modern
- 26:59translation, it's going to say tree of life.
- 27:02OK, so, but we know it's so. It is more likely original is
- 27:07tree, you know, But whether your name is taken out of the tree of
- 27:10life or the book of life, it ain't good.
- 27:12OK, so nothing, nothing big, nothing big.
- 27:16Doctrinally hangs on this. OK, it's, it's all bad, all
- 27:21right? It's just interesting, I think.
- 27:24So they basically use what they call the majority text for the
- 27:29King James, which means that they also include first John 5-7
- 27:34in the unique readings for the end of Revelation.
- 27:37So the King James Version has some things in it that don't
- 27:42source back to the Greek at all. So then later on they said after
- 27:46the King James was printed, we want to have a Greek version of
- 27:51the King James. They took the King James and
- 27:53they translated into the Texas Receptus or the received text.
- 27:59So a lot of people today say, man, you shouldn't have a
- 28:03translation unless it comes from the Texas Receptus.
- 28:06That's where the King James came from.
- 28:08No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The Texas sceptics came from the
- 28:12King James. It's the other way around.
- 28:15And so they say we'll accept anything that comes from the
- 28:17received text. They don't understand what
- 28:20they're talking about. And a lot of people that say
- 28:22that still won't use the new King James, so that they don't
- 28:26understand the reason why I'm going over this because there's
- 28:29only one group out there that says only our translation is
- 28:34right and that's the King James only crowd.
- 28:37They're the only group that says it.
- 28:39OK Anybody else is pretty much open to anything.
- 28:43That's an accurate translation of the Bible.
- 28:46There's only one group that says our translation and no other,
- 28:50and that's the King James only crown, the crowd I grew up with.
- 28:54So the methodology used in making King James's word for
- 28:58word, but it's more literal. It's more literary than literal.
- 29:03So they would enhance the text to make it more beautiful.
- 29:08It has like a like a high church feel to it.
- 29:12Listen, I'm not going to lie, the King James Bible is a
- 29:16literary masterpiece. It's like beautiful artwork,
- 29:20man, that you you're not going to get a book more beautiful,
- 29:24beautifully and elegantly written than the King James
- 29:27Bible. Now that doesn't make it more
- 29:30accurate, just makes it more beautiful.
- 29:34Here's some peculiarities about the King James Bible.
- 29:36It's a highly respected work. It's a very good translation.
- 29:40It's not the original King James Version.
- 29:42A lot of people say in your Bible, 1611, you don't have the
- 29:4616111611. The words are shaped
- 29:50differently. I have one at home.
- 29:51I meant to bring it. I forgot.
- 29:53But it it it's very hard to read. 1611 had the Apocrypha in
- 29:58it. OK, so you don't have 1611.
- 30:01You have the 1769 version. There's over 300 words in the
- 30:06King James Version that no longer mean what they meant in
- 30:101611. All right, let's look at some of
- 30:13these words. Chapter.
- 30:17Not chapter. Chapter.
- 30:20Quatrain. Ambassad, you use these words on
- 30:25a daily basis. Immerse.
- 30:28Yeah, how about this one? Hypergeron.
- 30:31OK, most people need a dictionary to look at these
- 30:34words to see what they mean. So some words still exist, but
- 30:39their meaning has changed. They're still using our
- 30:41vocabulary, but they don't mean the same thing they used to
- 30:44mean. Like compel doesn't mean the
- 30:47same thing in modern day that it used in the King James English.
- 30:50Like the word closet. It's not a place where you put
- 30:54your clothes. Jesus said go onto your closet.
- 30:57He didn't mean go onto your laundry hamper.
- 30:59OK, that That's not what That's not what Jesus meant.
- 31:02It's a good It was a good translation for for then, but
- 31:06it's just not a good translation for us now.
- 31:08But it was then. Conversation.
- 31:11To them, conversation meant a way of life.
- 31:15Today, conversation means a dialogue between two people.
- 31:19Carriages. Back then.
- 31:21Carriage men, 1611. That meant luggage.
- 31:23That's what a carriage meant. Instant didn't mean right away.
- 31:28It mean it meant insistent. But if you're instant, you're
- 31:31insisting on something. Leasing meant lying didn't mean
- 31:36leasing a Honda. OK, leasing meant lying.
- 31:41Meet M EE T meant proper fitting, appropriate.
- 31:48Today it means gathering together so we can agree that
- 31:51English changes. So the King James Version is an
- 31:54awesome translation, but doesn't have to be for all time.
- 31:58The church existed 1600 years without it.
- 32:02OK, so let's talk about the new King James.
- 32:07This is our next version. The new King James was mass
- 32:09produced in 1982. The textual basis is the say is
- 32:14the King James Version, the Texas Receptus.
- 32:17Other Greek manuscripts were available in 1982, but they were
- 32:20ignored, and that's fine. They wanted to make a version
- 32:23that was based off the same thing the King James was based
- 32:26off of trans. The translation methodology is
- 32:31meant to be an update to the King James Version.
- 32:34So it's word for word. It's very good at it.
- 32:36It's a very good translation. It it's updated so it doesn't
- 32:40have a lot of those archaic words that's used in the King
- 32:44James Version. But that also means it doesn't
- 32:47have the literary beauty of the King James Version.
- 32:51It has very good readings for unlikely passages like first
- 32:54John 57, the woman caught in adultery, the ending of Mark,
- 32:59and it for. We talked about that for earlier
- 33:02in the series, and some of y'all want to go back and watch that.
- 33:05Fortunately, it does have footnotes explaining why the
- 33:08manuscripts disagree with these passages.
- 33:11It italicizes words. It's not in the Greek.
- 33:14I appreciate that telling me it's not originally there, but
- 33:18appreciate them letting me know. Footnotes are good.
- 33:21If you don't get anything else from this message, get this.
- 33:25Read the footnotes in your Bible.
- 33:28Read the footnotes in your Bible.
- 33:30Now, I prefer the most likely reading to be in the text and
- 33:34the unlikely reading to be in the footnote.
- 33:37But the King James? The New King James?
- 33:39They reversed that most of the time.
- 33:41The unlikely reading is in the text and the more likely reading
- 33:44is in the footnote. OK, next version we're going to
- 33:48talk about is the RSV, the Revised Standard Version.
- 33:52This was printed in 1952. What they did is they use the
- 33:56King James Bible as a starting point.
- 33:59Their Greek sources were the most up to date for 1952.
- 34:04It leaves out many of the verses that are in the King James that
- 34:07we talked about last time we met.
- 34:09The the RSV is in between a word for word and a phrase for
- 34:13phrase. It's right in the middle.
- 34:16It leans more word for word. But back in 1952 that was this
- 34:21was a bold thing to do, to even go a little phrase for phrase.
- 34:26They did not do a straight up word for word.
- 34:28So people reacted like it was way out there, but it was just a
- 34:32little bit less word for word and more phrase for phrase than
- 34:34the King James Version. But it's a good version, and the
- 34:37only reason why I was criticized is because it wasn't.
- 34:39King James does have its peculiarities.
- 34:43It still has archaic language because of its connection to the
- 34:46King James, which helped it felt felt a little bit more like the
- 34:49King James. It has thee, thou hast and half,
- 34:56but only in relation to God. So when anytime we're in
- 35:00relation to God, they would use these terms thee, thou hast and
- 35:04half. And then other times they
- 35:06wouldn't. OK, now that's not in the Greek.
- 35:11So they're taking a little liberty there.
- 35:13It was criticized because it left out John 753 through to
- 35:19John 8 verse 11, woman caught in adultery.
- 35:22We talked about that. It was criticized and then they
- 35:25put it back in. Their sales went up, OK.
- 35:28And so the RSV is no longer in print, but the new, the New
- 35:33Revised Standard version is in print and it's the next version
- 35:37we're going to talk about 1989. They did an update to the RSV is
- 35:42the New Revised Standard version.
- 35:44The textural basis was everything they had available in
- 35:481989, which is not very different from what we have
- 35:51today in the Greek. It isn't much, it's more dynamic
- 35:56than the RFV. It's like more like a new, it's
- 35:59more like an NIV type translation.
- 36:02Here's some peculiarities. There's a lot of Old Testament
- 36:07prophecies about the Messiah that are prophesied that are,
- 36:11that are, that are written in a less messianic way.
- 36:14It's like you could have went either way, but it's like the
- 36:17Old Testament messianic prophecies.
- 36:21Anytime there was a mess, they would always choose the less
- 36:24messianic reading. OK, who knows why they did, but
- 36:28they did it consistently. It's considered a liberal
- 36:31translation by a lot of people as one of the first gender
- 36:35inclusive translations. Now the term gender inclusive is
- 36:40a mixed bag and we'll talk about that later.
- 36:43But in the Bible, when it says men, it could be talking about
- 36:48men or women or could just be talking about men.
- 36:52When it says brothers in the Greek, it could be talking about
- 36:55brothers and sisters or it could just be talking about brothers.
- 36:59It's how they talked, OK? And so you got to just read the
- 37:03context. So they said, look, English is
- 37:06changing, let's say brother and sister instead of just brother,
- 37:10let's say anyone instead of he. And there is some wisdom than
- 37:14that. I can see it.
- 37:16But the New Revised Standard version just kind of went way
- 37:19too far for it. First Timothy 32 is an example
- 37:23of this. When you get a chance, look this
- 37:25first Timothy 32 up in a New Revised Standard version.
- 37:29And it was like they purposely twisted the text to say that
- 37:33women could be bishops instead of accurately portraying what
- 37:37the text says. They're like, we have an agenda
- 37:40where this is what we're going to do.
- 37:42That doesn't mean you have a perversion.
- 37:44It just means that you know there are places in it where
- 37:48it's skewed a certain way and it doesn't.
- 37:51It doesn't accurately represent the original, but the rest of it
- 37:54is a fairly good dynamic translation.
- 37:57It's not like, oh, we've got a problem with this.
- 37:59First, let's burn it. No, no, no, no, no, Let's not do
- 38:02that. OK?
- 38:03It's just like an issue that we need to be educated about.
- 38:07So now let's talk about the new American Standard Bible, the
- 38:11NASB. This is from 1995.
- 38:15Most of the time when I preach, I'm going to use a New American
- 38:18Standard version. This morning, for instance, I
- 38:21use the King James. I swat go back and forth.
- 38:24Most of the time I use New American.
- 38:27The textual basis was most the was the most recent stuff they
- 38:30had in 95. The methodology is word for word
- 38:34wherever possible. The New American Standard Bible
- 38:37is a is a very good word for word translation and it's good
- 38:41for digging into the text, finding nuance.
- 38:45They use it in in seminaries all across the country.
- 38:50It was very well received. It's using more seminaries than
- 38:54any other. These are some peculiarities.
- 38:58Anytime they use an idiom, they include a footnote with the word
- 39:02for word translation. I appreciate that instead of a
- 39:06paragraph break, what they would do is they they make the verse
- 39:11numbers bold. So if you ever reading through a
- 39:13Bible and the verse numbers are bold and you're saying, why is
- 39:16that verse number bold, it's because it's starting a new
- 39:19paragraph. OK, that's that's what that
- 39:21means. It was criticized for being kind
- 39:24of wooden, kind of stiff. That's what happens when you get
- 39:28to word for word. It becomes wooden.
- 39:30It becomes stiff because it's from another language.
- 39:33There's a newer version that takes out some of the
- 39:35woodenness. So if you look at
- 39:38biblegateway.com, you'll have two Nas BS on there.
- 39:43You've got NASB 95 and NASB, which NASB 95 is the one that I
- 39:50use. In 2004, Dan Wallace said that
- 39:54the New American Standard Bible was probably the closest English
- 39:57translation to the original. And then later on, Dan Wallace
- 40:01came out with his own translation and said his was the
- 40:03closest. They always do that, but back in
- 40:062004, Dan Wallace said New American was the closest.
- 40:10Let's just talk about the ESV, the ESV, the English Standard
- 40:14version. It was printed in 2001.
- 40:17They use the most up to date Greek.
- 40:19They use the RSV as their textual base.
- 40:23It it is considered a word for word translation, although is
- 40:28less so than The New American Standard.
- 40:30And what that means it's it's more readable, but it's still
- 40:34considered a word for word translation.
- 40:36They don't do general neutral but they do gender accurate and
- 40:41all they're saying is look if the original reader thought this
- 40:44meant applied to men and women we're going to say men and
- 40:47women. If it meant brothers and
- 40:48sisters, we're going to say brothers and sisters.
- 40:50OK and and and and they do a good job with with that.
- 40:56All right next version is the Holman Christian standard Bible.
- 41:01Now this is my personal reader. When I do my daily my daily
- 41:04Bible reading I read a Holman Christian Standard Bible.
- 41:07I love this Bible the the the Holman.
- 41:10The Holman came out in 2004 and unlike other translations we'll
- 41:16talk about tonight, the Holman is not based on any trans.
- 41:22It's a brand new translation of the Bible.
- 41:24It's not based off of any existing version.
- 41:28They went directly from the Greek, it's straight from the
- 41:31Greek. They use up to So there's like,
- 41:39they come to a passage or verse and I say, OK, if word for word
- 41:43works better for this, we're going to go word for word and
- 41:46they come to the next passage. If phrase for phrase works
- 41:49better for this, we're going to go phrase for phrase.
- 41:51They're not afraid to go either way on the scale, just do
- 41:56whatever works for the passage that they come to.
- 42:00It tends to be more word for word and occasionally phrase for
- 42:04phrase. So here's some peculiarities
- 42:06about it. A lot of people say the home of
- 42:10Christian Standard is the Baptist translation, and that's
- 42:13not necessarily fair. That had over 100 scholars from
- 42:1717 different denominations. OK, so it's not just the Baptist
- 42:21translation. It's got tons of good footnotes.
- 42:26They put a footnote with the word for word anytime they did a
- 42:30phrase for phrase rendering. Some people listen to this.
- 42:34Some people say it's too literal and then other people say it's
- 42:38too free. Maybe that means they did a good
- 42:41job. OK, that means they did a good
- 42:43job with it. I love this version.
- 42:46One of the main reasons why I love this version is because so
- 42:49many times it translate, translate.
- 42:51Lord is Yahweh. I love that they do that 654
- 42:58times. Now the name of God is in the
- 43:00text over 6000 times. So they don't do it every time,
- 43:05but they do it a lot of the time.
- 43:08They took the word doulos and and every time translated it's
- 43:13slave instead of servant or another variation.
- 43:16Which is correct, it's more accurate.
- 43:18They will often translate Christ as Messiah, OK?
- 43:23Specifically when it's relating to his messianic duties or
- 43:27titles. Generally they ignore modern
- 43:30gender issues and they just translate what the original said
- 43:34they're like. Look, we're going to give you
- 43:36what the original said. You figure it out.
- 43:38OK, I appreciate that Old Testament messianic passages
- 43:43tend to be more messianic, so this translations got a lot
- 43:46going for it. Now let's talk about the NIV,
- 43:50the NIV. The NIV is the most popular
- 43:55translation in the world at the moment.
- 43:57It is also the most attacked and in my personal opinion and
- 44:03experience, no version gets KJV onliest, more angry than the
- 44:10NIVI can post a new American verse on my Facebook page and
- 44:16nothing is said. But I post the NIV verse on
- 44:19there and then the KJV onliest will come after me with a
- 44:23vengeance. I've been called effeminate.
- 44:26I've been called all these different names because I post
- 44:30the NIVNIV is a very good translation of the Bible, so it
- 44:39was made in 1984. People have claimed that the NIV
- 44:43is the non inspired version. But let me be very clear to you
- 44:48that it is not OK. It accurately it accurately
- 44:53translate the Bible most of the time.
- 44:55Now I'm going to give you a few things about it, because that's
- 44:59the purpose and it was totally abandoned.
- 45:02They don't even like to mention it anymore, OK?
- 45:05They they put it in the backroom and shut the door.
- 45:08But in 2011, in the dead of night when everyone was asleep,
- 45:15the NIV just changed magically. It's like they came in in 2011
- 45:21and without telling anybody they'd make, they took the 84
- 45:25versions off the shelf and put the 2000 elevens on the shelf
- 45:30and did not change the name, OK, Just acted like nothing
- 45:35happened. The.
- 45:37So I'm going to tell you some differences between the two.
- 45:41Now the only NIV version you can get today is the 2011 version.
- 45:45You can't buy the 84 version unless you buy an older one or
- 45:48you you can look at it online, OK.
- 45:52A lot of very well respected scholars were used to make the
- 45:55NIV and it a lot of people attack it because they say it's
- 45:59weak on the virgin birth, it's weak on the deity of Christ and
- 46:03it's weak against homosexuality. That is wrong.
- 46:06Forsake of time I could go to verses, but forsake of time I'm
- 46:10not going to do that. The NIV is strong on the virgin
- 46:13birth, it's strong on the deity of Christ, it's strong.
- 46:16It's homosexuality. OK, here's some differences
- 46:20between the 84 and the 2011 version.
- 46:23They the the 2011 version takes out the word alien and puts in
- 46:31foreigner, which, you know, I'm OK with that.
- 46:34A lot of people think alien. They think a little green men.
- 46:37OK, so I'm OK with that. The word St. is translated as
- 46:42God's people or the Lord's people.
- 46:45I don't care for that. But it's a preference.
- 46:48Still accurate. There are some gender issues and
- 46:53I would say in most places it does a really good job.
- 46:56But there are a few places there's a minority of the time
- 47:00where it doesn't do a good job. Matthew 18 basically says that
- 47:05if your brother or sister, if you have aught with them, go get
- 47:08along with them and work it out. I doubt very seriously that a
- 47:131st century Christian used to go get along with this woman and
- 47:17figure out the problem. But that's being real.
- 47:19That's me being very, very, very NIT picky.
- 47:22There some versus main improvement, like Philippians
- 47:26413. There's an improvement.
- 47:29There are many people who constantly take Philippians 413
- 47:33out of context. You cannot take Philippians 413
- 47:36out of context in the NIV. Here's what it says in the NIVI
- 47:41can do all this through him. Who gives me strength?
- 47:45OK, well, what is this? OK, well, I got to go to context
- 47:49and find out that Paul is talking about getting beat up
- 47:52and starving and going through life trials.
- 47:54He's not talking about winning the football game.
- 47:57OK, so you can't. It's God who strengthens him
- 48:00through these trials, OK? It's not about getting a 300 on
- 48:05your bowling score, OK? So you can't mistranslate that
- 48:09in the NIV. They do a good job.
- 48:12Now this is a problem, I think, said Corinthians 517.
- 48:17Here's what the K Here's what the KJV says.
- 48:20Therefore, if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature.
- 48:23Old things are passed away. Behold, all things are become
- 48:26new. OK, here's that verse in the
- 48:28NIV. Listen to it.
- 48:31Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has
- 48:36come, the old has gone, the new is here.
- 48:40Sounds a little awkward. Sounds a little hokey.
- 48:43Do you know why they worded it that way?
- 48:46They're trying not to say the word he.
- 48:49They're trying to dance around saying the word he.
- 48:54They're messing with the wording because they want us to realize
- 48:57that it's not just men who are part of the new creation.
- 49:01And that's true. It's just awkward how they
- 49:03handled that. The NIV is a very good Bible.
- 49:08There's nothing wrong with reading it.
- 49:09OK, let's talk about the Living Bible.
- 49:13The Living Bible came out in 1971.
- 49:16Living Bible is a paraphrase. It is not a translation.
- 49:20Here's we got our scope, we got word for word, and we got phrase
- 49:25for phrase and paraphrases somewhere over there.
- 49:29OK, paraphrases over there. It's basically what I think it
- 49:34says. Whoever wrote it, This is what I
- 49:36think It says. It's not like this is what
- 49:38Jeremiah says. It's like, this is what I think
- 49:41about what Jeremiah said. OK, Billy Graham, look, I my
- 49:47first Bible was a living Bible. I still haven't.
- 49:50It was my dad's Bible. Billy Graham popularized the
- 49:54living Bible. He would give it out in his
- 49:56crusades. It was the work of one guy.
- 49:59He didn't read Greek or Hebrew. He read the American Standard
- 50:03Version and reworded it into what he felt will be easier to
- 50:06understand. So it's a dude's interpretation
- 50:09of the Bible, and that's fine as long as you treat it that way.
- 50:13I'm fine with you having a paraphrase, as long as you treat
- 50:16it as a paraphrase and know what it is.
- 50:18So the Living Bible made tons of money.
- 50:20They started to publish in house, and so they decided to
- 50:23update it to the New Living Translation in 1996.
- 50:28The New Living Translation is a phrase for phrase, and it's a
- 50:32more thought for thought, even more so than the NIV.
- 50:35Here's some peculiarities about it.
- 50:38It avoids theological terms like justification, sanctification,
- 50:44regeneration doesn't have those in there.
- 50:47Instead, it says like may write with God, may holy or made.
- 50:52New footnotes are included when they have free renderings.
- 50:56Gender choices seem to be pretty good.
- 50:59It's good for kids or for those who are poor readers.
- 51:02So we have Bibles that, you know, you know, for for
- 51:06everybody. And that's a good thing.
- 51:08It's good to have a lot of options.
- 51:11All right. So now we're going to talk about
- 51:13the message. All righty.
- 51:17So it's like the living Bible taken to Jupiter.
- 51:21I am personally, I'm not a fan of the message.
- 51:24It's a paraphrase to the extreme.
- 51:27It's very idiomatic, to the point of losing the original in
- 51:31my opinion. Let me read you Matthew 513 out
- 51:34of the ESV. This is a very familiar verse.
- 51:37You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its
- 51:41saltiness, how can it be made salty again?
- 51:44It is no longer good for anything has said to be thrown
- 51:47out and trampled under foot. Here's the same verse in the
- 51:50message. Let me tell you why you were
- 51:53here. You are here to be the salt
- 51:56seasoning that brings out the God flavors of this earth.
- 52:01If you lose your saltiness, how will people taste godliness?
- 52:05If you've lost your usefulness, you will end up in the garbage.
- 52:10Proverbs 117. For in vain a net is spread in
- 52:15the sight of any bird. Here's the message.
- 52:20Nobody robs the bank when everyone is watching.
- 52:24That's not a that's not a translate.
- 52:26That's not even a paraphrase. OK, no, that's right, Saul.
- 52:34Here's Psalm 11. This is ESV.
- 52:36Blessed is a man who walks not in the counsel of the wicked,
- 52:39nor stands in the way of sinners, nor sits in the seat of
- 52:42scoffers. Here's Psalms one, one in the
- 52:45message. How well God must like you.
- 52:49You don't hang out at Sin Saloon.
- 52:52You don't slink along Dead End Road.
- 52:55You don't go to Smart Mouth College.
- 52:59That's OK That's right. Sin Saloon.
- 53:07All right, Zechariah 13-6. If anyone asks him what are
- 53:11these wounds on your back, he will say the ones I received in
- 53:14the House of my friends. Here's the message.
- 53:18And if someone says so, where did you get that black eye?
- 53:21They say I ran into a door at a friend's house.
- 53:26This is, this is true, OK? You can't even call it a
- 53:29translation at all. It's a paraphrase.
- 53:31Eugene Peterson was the guy who did this.
- 53:34He just, like he made-up his mind to do it for his youth
- 53:36group and he did it. He said he translated the
- 53:39Beatitudes in like 10 minutes and it shows OK Eugene Peterson
- 53:45says he'll go into a He said that he'll go into churches
- 53:49where they read the Bible from the pulpit and he cringes a
- 53:51little bit. And this is the guy who wrote
- 53:53it. Peterson says he believes that
- 53:55it should be the first Bible for new believers and then they
- 53:59should be weaned from it. I don't even believe it should
- 54:02be a first Bible for new believers.
- 54:04Like you give it to him and then you take it away.
- 54:06And they're like, it's not about sin, saloon.
- 54:09But, you know, so but I'll hear some other.
- 54:14All right. The word transgress becomes run
- 54:18roughshod. Even know what that means.
- 54:21Run roughshod, strengthened with all power, became sticking out
- 54:25over the long haul. Then there there are places
- 54:28where the theology is off. So the message would be the bad.
- 54:33All right, so we talked about the good.
- 54:35We talked about the bad. Now let's talk about the ugly.
- 54:39The New World Translation is a Jehovah Witness translation of
- 54:43the Bible. It is the worst English
- 54:46translation you'll probably ever come across for a few reasons.
- 54:50First off, who did it? The New World Translation won't
- 54:54tell us. They won't tell us who the
- 54:56translators are. Sneaky sneaky.
- 55:01They will not release the names. Although some former Jehovah
- 55:04Witness people have released some of the names of the
- 55:08translators. Why did they do it?
- 55:11Quote here. Here's quoting from them to
- 55:14eliminate the leading influence of religious tradition, which
- 55:17have roots in paganism. OK, this version was made to
- 55:22preach the particulars of the Jehovah Witness faith.
- 55:26It's actually more word for word than the King James ever was, to
- 55:30the point of being bad English. It's klutzy.
- 55:34It's hard to read, It's hard to understand.
- 55:36It's carelessly made because the people who did it really didn't
- 55:40know Greek very well. It's the most word for word
- 55:45translation on the market, except for the places where the
- 55:49Bible teaches things against the Jehovah Witness religion.
- 55:53And in that case, they don't mind monkeying with the text.
- 55:57OK, so let's do a Catholic Bible.
- 56:00Let's do a Catholic version. Let's talk about the Nabre, The
- 56:04NABRE, The New American Bible Revised Edition.
- 56:09This is the Catholic official Catholic translation for the
- 56:12United States using all the Catholic churches, just using
- 56:15the masses. The Catholic greetings, all the
- 56:18United States of America. The textual basis is the new
- 56:21text. So the methodology, the
- 56:24methodology is kind of all over the place.
- 56:26Like sometimes they'll be word for word, other times be phrase
- 56:29for phrase. They'll change whole passages
- 56:33several times in a row. They'll pull the whole thing and
- 56:37release a new addition under the same name.
- 56:40This Bible is all over the place currently.
- 56:43It's a very free phrase for phrase.
- 56:45Here's some peculiarities about it.
- 56:48It is general, neutral to the Max.
- 56:52To the Max. I mean where it's not necessary
- 56:56and where sometimes where it's not even necessarily
- 56:58justifiable. It has some text issues, but you
- 57:02could fairly get the Bible out of it.
- 57:04Now keep in mind he does have the apocrypha in it.
- 57:07You could fairly get the Bible out of it reliably, but the
- 57:11problem with this Bible is the footnotes.
- 57:14Footnotes are horrendous. They are like anti Catholic
- 57:18footnotes. OK, you you read the footnotes
- 57:23of their Bible and they don't even believe Moses wrote the
- 57:26Pentateuch. OK and and and it says that in
- 57:31the footnotes of the NABRE they believe that Isaiah had multiple
- 57:36authors. They say that in their
- 57:39footnotes. And this goes against
- 57:40traditional Catholic perspectives, OK?
- 57:42Like, even Catholics are mad about this.
- 57:45Catholics read, they want to study their Bible, and they're
- 57:47reading the footnotes. And it's like having a liberal
- 57:50atheist unbeliever write the footnotes of your study Bible.
- 57:55That wouldn't be good. The footnotes say that Daniel
- 57:58was written in 200 BC. So basically they're saying that
- 58:02that Daniel's a lie. And that's because it says that
- 58:06that, that. See, there are liberal scholars
- 58:08running this thing. Listen, Jesus quotes from
- 58:11Daniel. If Daniel's fake, you can throw
- 58:14every Bible in the trash. OK, Jesus quotes from Daniel.
- 58:20There's a footnote in Matthew 16 where Jesus foretells his
- 58:24crucifixion and that he's going to rise again.
- 58:26The footnote to that passage says that Jesus didn't actually
- 58:31say that, because how could he know?
- 58:34How could Jesus know? Well, where did he come up with
- 58:37this? OK, is there any evidence for
- 58:40that? Zero.
- 58:42But it's a liberal assumption that Jesus couldn't have
- 58:45prophesized what was going to happen.
- 58:47It's like you read the text and then you read the footnote for
- 58:50the text, and the footnote says that the text is a lie.
- 58:54All right. The second most popular Catholic
- 58:56translation is the New Jerusalem Bible.
- 58:59Of course, both include the apocrypha.
- 59:01It also has really bad, unbelieving footnotes, and it's
- 59:04like having a liberal unbeliever write the footnotes for your
- 59:07study Bible. In conclusion, though, most
- 59:10modern translations are good translations of the Bible.
- 59:13If you pick any of the translations I didn't bash,
- 59:16you're doing OK, you're doing good.
- 59:20But if you want to get down the basically take away from this.
- 59:24If you want to get down to the nitty gritty, if you want to get
- 59:27down to you know, to really pick apart those words, really get in
- 59:32there and study. You need a word for word
- 59:34translation. But man, if you just want to
- 59:36casually read it and it's kind of hard for you to understand
- 59:39and some of it's going over your head, man, get a more for get a
- 59:42phrase for phrase thought for thought translation.
- 59:45It's all the word of God. You're going to be OK and don't
- 59:48feel bad about it. Found my new name.
- 59:52Found that good grace. Found that healing.
- 59:56And the tears fell down my face. When I found my beginning.
- 1:00:00That has no ending. I found that second chance.
- 1:00:02Found my best friend. Found my forgiveness.
- 1:00:04Found my happiness. I've been singing ever since I
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