Latest / Booked On Rock with Eric Senich / When Prince Said 'No': The 'We Are The World' Fallout [Highlight From Episode 315]
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Here's a highlight from a recent episode of book Don
- 0:02Speaker 1: Rock Revolution Prints. The band The Era is the book.
- 0:05Speaker 1: Author James Campion is our guest. He was asked to
- 0:08Speaker 1: be part of We Are the World. He said no.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Why did he decline?
- 0:12Speaker 2: Well, I think that anybody asking Prince now, I remember
- 0:15Speaker 2: this was not well known information then. But in my research,
- 0:19Speaker 2: you're gonna ask a guy who's never been produced. When
- 0:22Speaker 2: he was eighteen years old, he was his own producer.
- 0:24Speaker 2: He's gonna work for Quincy Jones. And now I know
- 0:26Speaker 2: he loves Quincy Jones and Quincy Jones as a master,
- 0:28Speaker 2: but that's not gonna fly. He never sang in front
- 0:31Speaker 2: of anyone. How he always sang was microphone hanging above
- 0:35Speaker 2: the board. He would kick the engineer out, He'd kick
- 0:38Speaker 2: everybody out and record all his vocals by him side.
- 0:40Speaker 2: Never recorded a vocal after the age of seventeen with
- 0:44Speaker 2: anybody in the room.
- 0:46Speaker 1: That is amazing.
- 0:47Speaker 2: He's gonna sit with forty six people and sing a
- 0:49Speaker 2: song written by another person. That's never gonna happen. And
- 0:53Speaker 2: he's gonna sing a song by Michael Jackson and Lionel Richie.
- 0:56Speaker 2: He's never sung a song in front of anyone, and
- 0:58Speaker 2: since he's seventeen years old and he's never sung another
- 1:00Speaker 2: song by another artist except for a case of You Live,
- 1:04Speaker 2: and only once by Joni Mitchell. So you're gonna put
- 1:08Speaker 2: Prince who's never done the three things you have to
- 1:10Speaker 2: do to be on weird with the world, sing in
- 1:12Speaker 2: public with other people, sing another person's song, and just
- 1:19Speaker 2: show up with all those people. It's completely against his
- 1:23Speaker 2: his psychology.
- 1:24Speaker 1: Now that backfired on him because people probably thought he
- 1:28Speaker 1: was looking down at it like this is not worth
- 1:31Speaker 1: my time, and that's not what it was. In fact,
- 1:33Speaker 1: he offered something to Quincy. He said, let me record
- 1:37Speaker 1: something here and I'll send it to you.
- 1:38Speaker 2: Yeah, like a guitar. He said, let me go to
- 1:40Speaker 2: the different studio. But that was what they were trying
- 1:43Speaker 2: to do, camaraderie. Leave your ego at the door. Prince
- 1:46Speaker 2: had an ego that was embedded in his psychology. He
- 1:49Speaker 2: would he I am fully convinced he did not belong
- 1:53Speaker 2: in that room, despite the fact that two is of
- 1:55Speaker 2: his most the two paragons of his life when he
- 1:59Speaker 2: was younger, except for James Brown, was Ray Charles. His
- 2:02Speaker 2: first teacher music teacher worked for Ray Charles, and told
- 2:06Speaker 2: him about Ray Charles and how he crossed over and
- 2:08Speaker 2: did country music and anything he wanted. He controlled his
- 2:10Speaker 2: own publishing, all the things Prince wanted to do. And
- 2:13Speaker 2: Stevie Wonder who everybody said he was the new one
- 2:15Speaker 2: who he played all the instruments on his record. They
- 2:17Speaker 2: were there, so you would think just to be in
- 2:18Speaker 2: their presence, but it just wasn't in him. Now. The
- 2:22Speaker 2: thing that made that worse was he sends Sheil there
- 2:27Speaker 2: in his stead and they don't want Hill, so she
- 2:29Speaker 2: feels badly. Then he lies and says he he has
- 2:33Speaker 2: the management lies and say he's sick. And then after
- 2:36Speaker 2: winning the awards on the American Music Awards, he goes
- 2:38Speaker 2: out partying in public, and then when the paparazzi tries
- 2:42Speaker 2: to take pictures of him and his entourage, he sends
- 2:45Speaker 2: his bodyguards out to wrest the film from them, excuse me,
- 2:49Speaker 2: and they beat him up. Now, he didn't ask them
- 2:51Speaker 2: to beat him up, but that's what happened. It was
- 2:53Speaker 2: in all the papers. So not only does he show
- 2:55Speaker 2: up to the world he's out partying. It looks so
- 2:58Speaker 2: bad and he doesn't even see it, doesn't even tell
- 3:01Speaker 2: a band or his management. Nobody knows. They find out
- 3:03Speaker 2: at three in the morning when they get phone calls
- 3:04Speaker 2: from newspapers. So it was such a huge deal, and
- 3:08Speaker 2: he was all the myths, all the stories that because
- 3:11Speaker 2: Prince got talking to the press in nineteen eighty, all
- 3:14Speaker 2: the stories started to come out. He's a freak, he's
- 3:18Speaker 2: a jerk, he's up his own ass. All that stuff
- 3:21Speaker 2: came out, and it was hard to deny with anyone
- 3:24Speaker 2: around him. It was a terrible, terrible look, but he did.
- 3:28Speaker 2: There's a great PostScript to this. He did write a
- 3:31Speaker 2: song and give it to the album We of the World,
- 3:34Speaker 2: and performed a version of it on the day that
- 3:37Speaker 2: they had live Aid in July of eighty five, for
- 3:39Speaker 2: the Tears in your Eyes, which is a religious kind
- 3:42Speaker 2: of song, a connotation to to Jesus's feeding the loaves
- 3:47Speaker 2: and the fishes, feeding the multitudes. Of course, with the
- 3:50Speaker 2: feeding Africa, we should say for young people, we are
- 3:53Speaker 2: the World, was a song for African famine relief. So
- 3:57Speaker 2: here is Prince on at his own time in a
- 4:01Speaker 2: hot studio trailer outside of one of the venues he
- 4:06Speaker 2: played at two in the morning with Susan Rogers, engineer
- 4:09Speaker 2: putting this song together, as she said, with stale chips
- 4:12Speaker 2: and salami sandwiches and warm soda, when all those people
- 4:17Speaker 2: who sang and we are the World got fully fifteen
- 4:19Speaker 2: thousand dollars cater and they all had limos, and they
- 4:22Speaker 2: were in a great A and M Studios being produced
- 4:24Speaker 2: by Quincy Jones. So that's a kind of a nice
- 4:27Speaker 2: little thing where Prince was like, you know, I'm gonna
- 4:28Speaker 2: give this. I'll take the shit, but i'm gonna give
- 4:31Speaker 2: this song and let's move on. But it took years
- 4:33Speaker 2: for him to get over for a lot of people,
- 4:36Speaker 2: including his fans, to get over that snub.