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UK Column News Podcast 6th December 2024 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. It's Friday, the sixth of December twenty twenty four,
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Speaker 1: just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK column News and
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Speaker 1: your host Mike Robinson joining me today. We have Mark
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Speaker 1: Anderson and we've got to say happy birthday to Mark.
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Speaker 1: We've got Debbie Evans and in a minute we'll be
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Speaker 1: speaking to Pierce Robinson as well. But we're going to
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Speaker 1: get started with the nittle Foreign Ministers meeting which finished
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Speaker 1: on Wednesday. And here they all are, the bunch of
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Speaker 1: fools that they are, and well, Mark Rudder was in
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Speaker 1: full flow with his narrative, so let's have a look
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Speaker 1: and see what he was saying. Both Russia and China
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Speaker 1: have tried to destabilize our countries and divide our societies
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Speaker 1: with acts of sabotage, cyber attacks and energy blackmail. Nile
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Speaker 1: will work closely together with the EU on these issues.
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Speaker 1: So again we're back into using Trump as the sort
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Speaker 1: of battering ram over the heads of the European Union
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Speaker 1: to make sure that they start trying to spend more
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Speaker 1: money on the military industrial complex and bring together more
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Speaker 1: integration of their militaries under and put those militaries in
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Speaker 1: the hands of Ursula vonder lyon. He went on to
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Speaker 1: say these developments could destabilize the Korean peninsula and even
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Speaker 1: threaten the United States. So Russia's illegal war in Ukraine
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Speaker 1: threatens us all. And here he was talking about the
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Speaker 1: issues of Russia and their activities. And of course, when
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Speaker 1: we look at what's going on in South Korea, perhaps
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Speaker 1: we shouldn't be seeing this is being a separate event.
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Speaker 1: Perhaps we should be looking very closely at that event.
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Speaker 1: But Rutta himself, I just wanted to show another short
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Speaker 1: clip of what he had to say.
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Speaker 2: Ukraine is facing relentless bombardment targeting civilian areas and critical infrastructure,
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Speaker 2: and Russia is making gains along the front line, though
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Speaker 2: at a high cost. This could be ukraine most difficult
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Speaker 2: winter since twenty twenty two be discussed what more ALAS
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Speaker 2: can do to provide critical ammunition and air defenses as
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Speaker 2: Russia steps up as attacks and expends the warwith the
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Speaker 2: eight of North Korean troops and weapons. ALAS are working
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Speaker 2: to deliver on the financial pledge of forty billion euros
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Speaker 2: in security assists for Ukraine in twenty twenty four, and
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Speaker 2: I expect the new commands in viisbanden the native security
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Speaker 2: assistance and training for Ukraine to be fully operational by
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Speaker 2: the end of this year. But we must do more
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Speaker 2: than just keep Ukraine in the fight. We must provide
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Speaker 2: enough support to change the trajectory of this conflict once
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Speaker 2: and for all.
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Speaker 1: So he's absolutely clear that the trajectory has to be changed.
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Speaker 1: We need to be building up much stronger defense, so
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Speaker 1: called defense military industrial complex to change the trajectory of
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Speaker 1: the Ukrain War. That narrative very much echoed by our
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Speaker 1: own Foreign Minister, David Lammy. And I'm going to apologize
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Speaker 1: in advance for even putting this on screen, but I
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Speaker 1: think it's important that everybody here's what he had to say.
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Speaker 3: We're living in very dangerous times. And as we look
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Speaker 3: across the world, with war here on our continent in Europe,
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Speaker 3: with the tremendous aggression that we're seeing across the Middle East,
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Speaker 3: with the hand of Iran so present in the Middle East,
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Speaker 3: and with this rising conflict in Sudan and now in Syria,
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Speaker 3: there is one country whose hand is in so much
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Speaker 3: of it, and that is Russia. And that is why
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Speaker 3: as we meet here discussing these important issues, it's hugely
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Speaker 3: important that we step up defense spending across NATO allies,
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Speaker 3: particularly in the United Kingdom. We are at two point
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Speaker 3: three percent, heading to two point five percent as soon
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Speaker 3: as we can get there, and we urge all allies
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Speaker 3: across the NATO family to get serious about defense spending.
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Speaker 3: All of our populations require us to understand the tremendous
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Speaker 3: security challenges that we are facing at this time. The
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Speaker 3: time to act is.
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Speaker 1: And that well I didn't chop the video off there,
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Speaker 1: that was their excerpt. So the time to act is now, apparently,
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Speaker 1: and of course what we're seeing is conflict right across
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Speaker 1: the world. Let me welcome Pierce Robinson to the program. Pierce,
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Speaker 1: thank you for joining me. We're going to talk about
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Speaker 1: Siria here. He was very clear in what he said
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Speaker 1: there that Russia is being blamed for absolutely everything. But
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Speaker 1: it's not just Russia, it's Iran, it's North Korea, it's
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Speaker 1: China as well. We have the resurgence of this access
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Speaker 1: of evil narrative that we heard back at the turn
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Speaker 1: of the century.
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Speaker 4: Yep, for sure, starting with nine to eleven, the manufactured
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Speaker 4: war triggered the false flag of nine to eleven. We
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Speaker 4: had George Bush obviously talking about the access of evil,
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Speaker 4: and we had the regime change wars being initiated at
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Speaker 4: that point Afghanistan, Iraq and then of course Syria were named,
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Speaker 4: and Iran of course was named straight away following nine
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Speaker 4: to eleven. It's in the internal documents you can see
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Speaker 4: in the discussions between the then British Prime Minister at
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Speaker 4: Toney Blair and George W. Bush about when to get
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Speaker 4: to Iran, so to speak. And we are now twenty
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Speaker 4: three years later in essentially the evolution of that war planning,
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Speaker 4: that belligerent attempt to extend Western power into the twenty
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Speaker 4: first century, and it laid the groundworks, with the groundwork
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Speaker 4: or the tracks which lead us to where we are now.
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Speaker 4: And unfortunately we are in the foothills of a global
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Speaker 4: conflict situation. Where that will go nobody can tell at
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Speaker 4: the moment, but it's certainly we are on a step
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Speaker 4: up the escalation ladder, especially with what we're seeing at
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Speaker 4: the moment in Syria, which appears to be a renewed
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Speaker 4: drive to overthrow the Syrian government with Turkish involvement backing
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Speaker 4: Israel and effectively the US NATO I'm sure are part
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Speaker 4: and parcel of what we're seeing play out now in Syria,
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Speaker 4: and of course that conflict can rearrange the framework the
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Speaker 4: Middle East effectively and the balance of power in the
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Speaker 4: Middle East. And that's what this is all about now,
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Speaker 4: and that's what it was all about. And it has
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Speaker 4: been for twenty three years to go down the memory
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Speaker 4: lane on this, and we are now in an increasingly
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Speaker 4: fraught international situation with a belligerence dance towards Russia. Russia
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Speaker 4: always being blamed as you say, but also all cards
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Speaker 4: on the table, the dice being rolled in the Middle
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Speaker 4: East now, and yeah, we have to see where it goes.
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Speaker 4: I'm not going to make any predictions, but we're definitely
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Speaker 4: on the step up the escalation ladder in terms of
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Speaker 4: global conflict.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and the Syrian conflict is escalating, as you say.
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Speaker 1: But in fact, I think it was yesterday perhaps in
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Speaker 1: the Security Council, if we bring this on screen, this
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Speaker 1: was the Russia Russia, the United Nations tweeting this side
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Speaker 1: mister Pulianski at the United Nations Security Council meeting on Syria.
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Speaker 1: Instead of establishing the truth with regard to the Duma
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Speaker 1: incident and thus restoring the undermine trust towards the true
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Speaker 1: motivation and objectives behind their work on the Syrian chemical file.
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Speaker 1: The Western countries proceed with fabrications, tangling their web of
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Speaker 1: lives and ever growing massive not of course, the West, NATO,
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Speaker 1: the UK government, the US and so on, imply that
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Speaker 1: any suggestion that what happened in Dumat, which effectively is
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Speaker 1: one of the things which justifies all the intervention in Syria,
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Speaker 1: that this is somehow a Russian narrative. But of course
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Speaker 1: appears that is not a Russian narrative. And in fact,
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Speaker 1: you've been working very hard to try to raise the
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Speaker 1: questions that need to be raised with respect to this
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Speaker 1: for many many years. I mean, this is just this
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Speaker 1: was published in April last year, five years on the
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Speaker 1: OPCW Duma deception continues. But the key word there is continue.
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Speaker 1: And again this is not a Russian narrative. This is
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Speaker 1: absolutely the correct questions being asked. What was in fact
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Speaker 1: a propaganda exercised by the West in Syria at that time?
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Speaker 4: Well, for sure, this week has seen as some rancorous
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Speaker 4: exchanges in the New and Security Council. You had an
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Speaker 4: emergency meeting on Syria on Tuesday. I think it was,
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Speaker 4: and you had the extraordinary site of Ride Sala from
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Speaker 4: the White Helmets being rolled out in order to make
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Speaker 4: a number of claims, but also to reiterate the claims
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Speaker 4: about DUMA, that the alleged chemical weapons attack in Syria
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Speaker 4: in twenty eighteen, and really sort of indicating very very
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Speaker 4: clearly that we're in a major propaganda drive now to
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Speaker 4: try and see through the war regime or regime change
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Speaker 4: wars in inverted commons, which is being applied to Syria now.
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Speaker 4: So he appeared on Tuesday, and he cited DUMA. On
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Speaker 4: Thursday in New and Security Council, I think scheduled meeting where
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Speaker 4: Syria was discussed. The Syria chemical weapons issue was scheduled
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Speaker 4: and came up, and again it was reiterated. All of
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Speaker 4: the allegations about Syrian chemical weapons use all fitting in
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Speaker 4: with what looks like a major propaganda drive to try
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Speaker 4: and push and support the groups who are trying to
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Speaker 4: overthrow the Syrian government and the external forces who are
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Speaker 4: trying to overthrow the Syrian government, and the Russian Federation
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Speaker 4: made very clear they actually talked about and this is
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Speaker 4: where as you say, this is not a Russian issue,
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Speaker 4: the Russian delegation actually talked about the OPCW whistleblowers, scientists
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Speaker 4: who essentially called out the manipulation of the investigation into
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Speaker 4: the alleged attack and Dooma, and all of the evidence
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Speaker 4: which emerged from essentially documents coming out into the public domain,
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Speaker 4: but also testimonies effectively from OPCW officials, was that that
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Speaker 4: investigation was manipulated in order to point the finger at
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Speaker 4: the Syrian government. All of the evidence, certainly in my judgment,
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Speaker 4: points towards a false flag event in that case with
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Speaker 4: the involvement of the White Helmets, which is why I
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Speaker 4: mentioned Ryde Salah appearing on Tuesday. And we are working
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Speaker 4: alongside Jose Bastani who's the first Director General of the OPCW,
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Speaker 4: along with Hanston Sponnik, former Assistant Secretary General to the
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Speaker 4: UN and also Professor Richard Folk. We have repeatedly put
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Speaker 4: all of the factial questions to states parties and the
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Speaker 4: OPCW raised by the OPCW whistleblowers, and they're not able
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Speaker 4: to answer any of them. All they're able to do
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Speaker 4: is to either smear or just to stonewall refuse to answer.
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Speaker 4: Here we are and that is still a live issue
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Speaker 4: and it's still being pushed. But the West is doubling
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Speaker 4: down as ever on this issue, even to the extent
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Speaker 4: of having the head of the White Helmets and the
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Speaker 4: UN Security Council, and certainly from the tone of the
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Speaker 4: Russian delegate that the Russian ambassador, I think the Russians
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Speaker 4: seem to be somewhat losing their temper at this point
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Speaker 4: in the game. But it's an extraordinary case, an extraordinary
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Speaker 4: event where you have scientists within the OPCW calling this out,
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Speaker 4: of course always being reframed as a Russian propaganda, but
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Speaker 4: the scientists involved have got nothing to.
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Speaker 1: Do with the Russian Federation.
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Speaker 4: They are to the most experienced scientists from the OPCW
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Speaker 4: who essentially called out the corruption of that investigation. And yeah,
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Speaker 4: it's in a way amazing to see, but in a
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Speaker 4: way entirely predictable, because my suspicion was that their refusal
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Speaker 4: to answer questions for including from the Brazilian government over
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Speaker 4: the Doumer investigation, was all underpinned by the fact that
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Speaker 4: they needed to maintain a narrative on chemical weapons, a
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Speaker 4: chemical weapons deception regarding Syria, and they had to maintain
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Speaker 4: it because you know, the plan was, when the opportunity arises,
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Speaker 4: to go again to try to overthrow the Syrian government,
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Speaker 4: and that's what we've gotten now. So I think, as
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Speaker 4: I suspected for a number of years now, that myself
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Speaker 4: and Jose and Hance we have been up against an
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Speaker 4: ongoing propaganda operation, which explains the refusals once so, which
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Speaker 4: explains the smear campaign to have all been subjected to.
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Speaker 4: But yeah, that's the amazing sort of place we are
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Speaker 4: now at, and this is being sort of argued out
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Speaker 4: at UN Security Council level again and the Russians Russian
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Speaker 4: Federation being very blunt now about the OPCW, but also
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Speaker 4: the US government and their inability to answer very straightforward
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Speaker 4: questions which have been put to them for five years
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Speaker 4: now about the Duma investigation and about the manipulation of
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Speaker 4: that investigation to point the finger at the Syrian government.
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Speaker 1: Yes, Pierce, thank you very much. That I'm just going
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Speaker 1: to briefly mention that, of course, the mainstream media continues
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Speaker 1: to also propagandais and the BBC this morning thousands flee
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Speaker 1: Syrian city of homes as as long as Led rebels
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Speaker 1: advance further, let's call them what they are they are terrorists.
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Speaker 1: The BBC should be calling them terrorists. If you want
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Speaker 1: to see the sort of context of this, watch Wednesday's
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Speaker 1: UK column News when Vanessa was on the program. And
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Speaker 1: I just want to mention in passing here that The
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Speaker 1: Mail Online has been forced to make a correction with
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Speaker 1: respect to the Ukraine coverage because they claimed that they
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Speaker 1: had a photograph of North Korean women being used as
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Speaker 1: canon fodder in Ukraine. And well they've had to withdraw
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Speaker 1: that because it was a fake image of course, that
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Speaker 1: went into the corner of their website and the Clarifications
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Speaker 1: corrections site. Here is the original the image that they
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Speaker 1: claimed was from Ukraine in recent days. And you'll notice
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Speaker 1: that that this is from an organization called East to
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Speaker 1: West News. That's the copyright on the image. East to
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Speaker 1: West News. So let's have a look at who they are.
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Speaker 1: They apparently are this organization East to West Limited, which
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Speaker 1: is a limited company, but it basically has one person
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Speaker 1: working for it, and that is William Stewart. And William
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Speaker 1: Stewart you will find on a host of articles on
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Speaker 1: a host of UK based news organizations, The Sun, The Express,
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Speaker 1: the Daily Mail others, absolutely pushing an anti Russian narrative
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Speaker 1: and Piers just very very briefly, if we could, We
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Speaker 1: just want to highlight an event which is taking place
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Speaker 1: on the UK Column website on the fifteenth of this
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Speaker 1: month on Sunday at six pm UK time, and this
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Speaker 1: is the second David Ray Griffin Lecture featuring doctor Mattavi Setti.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is International Center for nine to eleven Justice,
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Speaker 4: our annual David Ray Griffin Lecture and Madavaseti will be
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Speaker 4: giving to talk and we'll then have hopefully a very
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Speaker 4: fascinating roundtable discussion afterwards. For those of who don't know,
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Speaker 4: David Ray Griffins is one of the lead professors who
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Speaker 4: really sort of established a more accurate historical record on
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Speaker 4: nine to eleven and what happened afterwards, and our annual
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Speaker 4: lecture is a tribute to him, and this is going
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Speaker 4: to be a very interesting discussion. Madava Seti is very
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Speaker 4: interested as we are at IC nine one one in
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Speaker 4: terms of linking together people who have woken up about
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Speaker 4: COVID nineteen with the other big dissident community out there
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Speaker 4: who've woken up about the Western imperialist wars. And there's
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Speaker 4: a lot of overlapp and there's a lot of synergy
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Speaker 4: which can be created. But Madam, we'll be talking a
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Speaker 4: little bit about that, and then more broadly about issues
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Speaker 4: of waking up awareness and so on, and awareness to
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Speaker 4: truth and how to cope with that and how to
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Speaker 4: move forward in terms of pushing back against powerful actors
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Speaker 4: who use propaganda and deception against us in order to
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Speaker 4: pursue their various agendas.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Pierce. So that it'll be the fifteenth, Sunday
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Speaker 1: the fifteenth, at six pm UK time, and of course
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Speaker 1: you'll be able to see that live on the UK
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Speaker 1: Column website. Pierce, thank you very much for joining us today,
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Speaker 1: and we'll speak again very very soon, I hope. Thank you. Right, Debbie,
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Speaker 1: let's come to the UK then and to you, and
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Speaker 1: we are a little bit behind time, but that's okay.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about scrapping the app.
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Speaker 5: Yes, good afternoon, everybody, lovely to be here, and yes,
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Speaker 5: let's talk about because apps seem to be inveigling our lives.
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Speaker 5: So thank you so much for this graphic, Mike, scrap
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Speaker 5: the app. I do hope everyone can share it wherever
17:51
Speaker 5: they go, because if you would like to consider deleting
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Speaker 5: and scrapping the NHS app. Let's tell you who has
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Speaker 5: your data. So I want to bring your attention to
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Speaker 5: the Washington Examiner here because you might not realize, but
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Speaker 5: Peter Thiel has bankrolled President Trump's campaign. Now, Peter thele
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Speaker 5: PayPal founder also co founder of Pallenteer. It's looking a
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Speaker 5: bit like the administration might be turning into a bit
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Speaker 5: of a public private partnership, doesn't it here? But anyway,
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Speaker 5: let's look at Golf News, who confirm Peter Thiel's involvement,
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Speaker 5: calling him an antique globalist. I think that's probably up
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Speaker 5: for discussion. But we've got a nice picture here of
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Speaker 5: President elect Trump and Peter Thiel holding hands in a
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Speaker 5: very kind of odd way, I thought. But anyway, let's
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Speaker 5: go back at a Pallenteer because all roads lead to Pallenteer.
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Speaker 5: And this is a very interesting report actually, if you
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Speaker 5: want to go and read it, no tech for tyrants have.
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Speaker 5: It's a very in depth report was brought out in
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Speaker 5: September twenty twenty. But their roads also go to the CIA,
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Speaker 5: Moss SAD, and of course to the NHS. So if
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Speaker 5: we look at the Paleer for Healthcare page on the NHS,
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Speaker 5: we can see clearly that they're embedded. However, this is
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Speaker 5: not where it stops. We already know that Palenteer pretty
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Speaker 5: much run the NHS app, but according to Farmer Forum,
19:19
Speaker 5: the NHS datas in the spotlight again because Palenteer have
19:22
Speaker 5: apparently won a new contract. Well what's all this about?
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Speaker 5: So further on in the article it says that this
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Speaker 5: is a twelve month contract worth twenty five million, but
19:32
Speaker 5: it will put them in a good position to pick
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Speaker 5: up a nice cool four hundred and eighty million pound
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Speaker 5: contract to provide the federated interesting term word. They're federated
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Speaker 5: data platform, which is where all the NHS data will
19:46
Speaker 5: eventually sit. However, it would appear that people aren't very
19:51
Speaker 5: happy and they're thinking, if we've got a third party
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Speaker 5: looking after our data, we might want to opt out.
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Speaker 5: And the report also goes on to cite YouGov actually,
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Speaker 5: which says that forty eight percent of UK adults who
20:03
Speaker 5: haven't yet opted out probably would be likely to do
20:08
Speaker 5: so if the federated data platform is run by a
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Speaker 5: private company, which clearly it looks as though it might be.
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Speaker 5: So let's go back to our good friends, not Sir
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Speaker 5: Tony Blair, and according to the BBC Blair and Haig. Well,
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Speaker 5: what are they up tod They say, quite rightly, actually
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Speaker 5: the NHS data is very very valuable. Well, how they
20:32
Speaker 5: go on to say that the NHS should sell anonymized
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Speaker 5: medical records to harness a new biotechnology revolution. In fact,
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Speaker 5: they're talking about the NHS wealth of data. And of
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Speaker 5: course this is the unique selling point for the UK
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Speaker 5: in that we have the data. So let's look at
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Speaker 5: s Tony Blair's New National Purpose Leading Biotech Revolution. Here's
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Speaker 5: the paper here, But it goes on to say that
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Speaker 5: they want to harness the power of tech. They want
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Speaker 5: to reimagine the state and public services. So basically they're
21:04
Speaker 5: talking about restructuring Westminster here and I think you're going
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Speaker 5: to see a lot about this in the in the
21:10
Speaker 5: very near future. But going on in the report, they're
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Speaker 5: calling for a new laboratory, a laboratory of biodesign, which
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Speaker 5: will bring innovation and talent to the UK. We don't
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Speaker 5: want to be left behind, according to Sir Tony Blair.
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Speaker 5: And in summary in their report they basically just reiterate
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Speaker 5: that we need to have a leading position, a leading
21:33
Speaker 5: a leading, a presence on the stage of global science
21:38
Speaker 5: and innovation. And you know I have to say that
21:42
Speaker 5: if you go on to the next side again, it
21:45
Speaker 5: just gets worse because we're going to ping and book.
21:48
Speaker 5: Have you heard about pinging and booking? Because now you
21:50
Speaker 5: can women are going to be encouraged to ping and
21:53
Speaker 5: book to book cancer screening. What else can you do
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Speaker 5: on the app? I mean, let's just stay on the
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Speaker 5: NHS app for a minute so you can register with
22:00
Speaker 5: a GP surgery. Now a lot of people are telling
22:03
Speaker 5: me that they can no longer register unless they register
22:07
Speaker 5: through the app. Plenty of surgeries asking you now to
22:10
Speaker 5: register through the app. What else can the app do? Well,
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Speaker 5: it can notify you. Apparently it's got a secure inbox
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Speaker 5: which allows patients to receive messages. So eventually this app
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Speaker 5: is going to be the way that citizens in England
22:22
Speaker 5: anyway receive their messaging. And this is my point, is
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Speaker 5: that the NHS are coming to you. They're going to
22:27
Speaker 5: be inveigling your phone, your device, your email. It's no
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Speaker 5: longer up to us to contact the NHS when we
22:34
Speaker 5: want to. It's now for the NHS to contact us
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Speaker 5: at any time of the day or night. But what
22:39
Speaker 5: are the benefits? Well, of course, it all comes down
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Speaker 5: to money. It saves money. They say it's safer and
22:44
Speaker 5: more secure. I have my doubts. They say it's reliable.
22:48
Speaker 5: I think all of that is up for discussion. But
22:50
Speaker 5: if it's not the NHS app, which app is it?
22:53
Speaker 5: So this shockingly came out of the Financial Times to
22:57
Speaker 5: say that, according to them, we've got staff using NHS
23:02
Speaker 5: staff using and sharing patient data through WhatsApp. And it
23:06
Speaker 5: reveals more. It goes on to say that doctors are
23:09
Speaker 5: routinely using WhatsApp to share confidential medical data, even sensitive
23:15
Speaker 5: data such as blood tests and results like X rays
23:19
Speaker 5: for example. So this is a really big thing. And
23:23
Speaker 5: in Bristol we've got a new study coming out with
23:26
Speaker 5: the University of Manchester where they're going to evaluate back
23:30
Speaker 5: pain through a phone app. Now this is particularly interesting
23:34
Speaker 5: because if we go on to see this new research project,
23:38
Speaker 5: they're going to researchers are going to look and assess
23:41
Speaker 5: another app, which is going to be called Get You
23:43
Speaker 5: Better App. So they're going to be seeing does it
23:48
Speaker 5: help improve patients pain and engage them in data in
23:52
Speaker 5: daily living activities. And my question would be it might
23:55
Speaker 5: not help the patient, but I'm sure it will help
23:58
Speaker 5: DWP when they're assessing people for PIP and disability assessments.
24:02
Speaker 5: Just throwing that out there, But we do have concerns
24:06
Speaker 5: according to Digital Health of course, that this all of
24:09
Speaker 5: this app and accessing through the app is going to
24:13
Speaker 5: exclude elderly people, and I'm quite sure that it will,
24:16
Speaker 5: but it does beg The question is who could access
24:19
Speaker 5: that data on behalf of an elderly person. But we've
24:24
Speaker 5: met Professor Joe Harrison before. We've seen him on the
24:28
Speaker 5: board meeting getting very excited about the NHS APP. He
24:30
Speaker 5: really is very excited and he's going to be telling
24:33
Speaker 5: us much more about what's coming in the NHS APP
24:36
Speaker 5: at the Rewired exhibition in twenty twenty five. And I
24:40
Speaker 5: just want to show you this Rewired exhibition because if
24:42
Speaker 5: you're interested in knowing more, it's at the NEC in
24:46
Speaker 5: Birmingham on the eighteenth, nineteenth of March. And that lady
24:49
Speaker 5: there pictured, that's Dr Charlotte Refsum. Now you'll be relieved
24:53
Speaker 5: to know that she'll be present and correct and she's
24:56
Speaker 5: the director of Health Policy at the Tony Blair Institute
24:59
Speaker 5: for Change, so I knew you'd be reassured to know that,
25:03
Speaker 5: and you know, going on with apps in general. I
25:06
Speaker 5: just want to show you something. I walked past my
25:09
Speaker 5: local shop just the other day and it was perfectly fine.
25:12
Speaker 5: And then I walked past it two nights ago and
25:15
Speaker 5: this had popped up overnight just outside it. Scan, Tap
25:18
Speaker 5: and go with conveniently CCTV. But as you can see there,
25:23
Speaker 5: you have to download the app to collect the parcels.
25:26
Speaker 5: We're using apps more and more and more. But on
25:29
Speaker 5: a positive final note, before we come to a quick
25:32
Speaker 5: little video. As a self confessed technophobe myself, we could
25:36
Speaker 5: actually be giving the government a bit of a headache.
25:39
Speaker 5: So if you are a technophobe, and if you do
25:42
Speaker 5: think that you would like to consider to scrap the
25:45
Speaker 5: app because plenty of us don't want it, then Sam
25:48
Speaker 5: very kindly has done a very short, fifteen second little
25:53
Speaker 5: video to show you that if you choose to delete it.
25:56
Speaker 6: This is how from your main mobile phone home screen,
26:01
Speaker 6: scroll across the pages until you get to the page
26:04
Speaker 6: with the NHS app icon, Hold down the icon button
26:09
Speaker 6: until the menu appears. Click app info in the new
26:13
Speaker 6: menu you're taken to click on installed.
26:19
Speaker 1: And it's that simple, Debbie, Thank you very much. Mark
26:25
Speaker 1: let's come on to you and the question of depopulation.
26:32
Speaker 7: Indeed, Mike, good day, everyone ts Eliot in the poet
26:38
Speaker 7: in the poem excuse me, he's, of course the poem
26:41
Speaker 7: a poet. In his poem The Hollow Man, he wrote
26:44
Speaker 7: that the world could end not with a bang, but
26:46
Speaker 7: with a whimper. And the irony here is that the
26:50
Speaker 7: think tankers, in this case the United States are, of
26:54
Speaker 7: all things, they're looking at depopulation. And if you look,
26:58
Speaker 7: of course at the legacy of think tanks and the
27:01
Speaker 7: elite money from which they sprang on, many of the
27:04
Speaker 7: wars and many of the upheavals in the world that
27:06
Speaker 7: have threatened populations have come from them. So now we're
27:10
Speaker 7: looking at this very same ilk, looking, you might say,
27:14
Speaker 7: at their own handiwork, but maybe not admitting it anyway.
27:18
Speaker 7: In this first slide we have Danielle Pletka, a distinguished
27:21
Speaker 7: Senior Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, one of many
27:25
Speaker 7: think tanks on think Tank Row, Massachusetts Avenue, DC. She
27:29
Speaker 7: deals with US defense and foreign policy, Middle East, international terrorism, etc.
27:33
Speaker 7: This is her article a very recent November thirty Where
27:37
Speaker 7: have all the People Gone? And we'll move on from
27:41
Speaker 7: there she interviewed a Nicholas Eberstadt, a Henry went Cheer
27:47
Speaker 7: in political economy at the American Enterprise Institute. And this
27:52
Speaker 7: is Danielle Plecka writing what she wrote about him. For decades,
27:57
Speaker 7: he has exposed the terrible realities of China evil one
28:00
Speaker 7: child policy helped us understand why the Soviets and then
28:04
Speaker 7: the Russians have declining life expectancy and now flagged the
28:08
Speaker 7: impending depopulation of the world. And this is important and
28:12
Speaker 7: this part is accurate. The first time in recorded human
28:15
Speaker 7: history that we are tipping towards fewer and not more
28:19
Speaker 7: inhabitants on planet Earth, but by choice, unlike the Black Death,
28:24
Speaker 7: the plague and things like that. Nicholas says seventy percent
28:27
Speaker 7: of humanity now lives in countries with below replacement level
28:31
Speaker 7: fertility rates. As Pletka observed having interviewed mister Everstadt, and
28:37
Speaker 7: we'll move on from there. I did a little statement
28:42
Speaker 7: by daniel Plecca and then I answered a couple of
28:45
Speaker 7: her statements. So I'm referring to some notes that I
28:48
Speaker 7: wrote down here. Author Daniel Pletka said in this article
28:52
Speaker 7: that takes into account mister everstat quote the social safety
28:56
Speaker 7: nets that the left the doors will be unsustainable and
29:00
Speaker 7: the increasingly insolvent US social security system will collapse. My
29:05
Speaker 7: answer to that is that safety net is based on
29:07
Speaker 7: the current monetary paradigm. If nation states were to end
29:11
Speaker 7: their borrowing addiction and create interest free, debt free money,
29:15
Speaker 7: then these states would no longer foolishly dig holes of
29:18
Speaker 7: debt entrapment just to find that. Social retirement and the
29:22
Speaker 7: overall safety net, everything would become much more manageable. In
29:25
Speaker 7: other words, Miss Platka added quote, the health burden of
29:30
Speaker 7: a society is weighted towards the elderly, who are living
29:33
Speaker 7: longer and longer. And my answer to that is the
29:36
Speaker 7: claim that people are living longer and longer, while generally
29:39
Speaker 7: true over longer periods of time, is now visibly changing
29:44
Speaker 7: as vaccines of vaccine injuries and deaths, contaminated and overly
29:49
Speaker 7: processed food, contaminated water supplies, you name it, GMO, etc.
29:54
Speaker 7: Are eroding lifespan metrics. And there's a lot of literature
29:58
Speaker 7: out there to support that, and we'll continue to explore this.
30:04
Speaker 7: Miss Pleka also said quote, it's not crazy to think
30:07
Speaker 7: about the impact of China's shrinking youth demographic in China,
30:11
Speaker 7: of course, decades of forced abortion enable the one child policy,
30:15
Speaker 7: and that also means fewer women to marry as well.
30:19
Speaker 7: And I answered that the words forced abortion are easy
30:23
Speaker 7: for elitse to say when they speak of other countries
30:26
Speaker 7: that they've deemed authoritarian, like China, But in Western states
30:30
Speaker 7: such as the UK and US, abortion, while it's not
30:33
Speaker 7: exactly forced, is relentlessly and radically promoted and protected under
30:38
Speaker 7: a thick layer of lies. It's basically a secular religious sacrament.
30:43
Speaker 7: Abortion is by the legacy media cartel, promoted by that media,
30:48
Speaker 7: promoted by most of the medical world, and of course
30:51
Speaker 7: by Planned Parenthood and other abortion providers. Never does the
30:55
Speaker 7: right to life of the preborn child enter into the discussion.
30:58
Speaker 7: The effect on future population levels in the US alone
31:02
Speaker 7: of some sixty million aboarded babies since nineteen seventy three's
31:06
Speaker 7: Roe v. Wade is almost beyond calculation. Yet the establishment
31:11
Speaker 7: of which AEI is a part, scarcely recognizes the obvious
31:15
Speaker 7: impact of severing so many bloodlines on population levels at
31:20
Speaker 7: such a massive scale. Anyway, Going on from there, there's
31:23
Speaker 7: some other basic observations from various sources I gathered mis
31:29
Speaker 7: Plka and mister Everstat are both saying that the Reda
31:32
Speaker 7: Thurnberg world of constant fear of a future climate catastrophe
31:37
Speaker 7: is likely a factor that's discouraging reproduction. There's probably some
31:41
Speaker 7: truth to that. People have a dire look at the future.
31:44
Speaker 7: But then they're also claiming that a smartphone addiction is
31:48
Speaker 7: affecting human relations in the wrong sort of way, and
31:51
Speaker 7: that that is leading to smaller families. Things like that.
31:57
Speaker 7: The Economist has said Trump is going to pay birth
32:01
Speaker 7: bonuses upon his re election, of paying people to have children.
32:05
Speaker 7: Even Francis McCrone is supposedly saying that we'll see if
32:08
Speaker 7: that happens. And birth incentive programs, according to Plecca and Eberstat,
32:14
Speaker 7: allegedly have failed. And the Institute of Family Studies, however,
32:20
Speaker 7: begs to differ and says that Poland's generous pro natal policy,
32:25
Speaker 7: with major support from a nearly universal cash benefit, is
32:29
Speaker 7: evidently working to increase the incentives to have larger families,
32:36
Speaker 7: and many have adopted Malthusian viewpoint fewer people is better,
32:40
Speaker 7: more food for the living, more housing, things like that.
32:45
Speaker 7: Eberstadt has said the US is resisting the depopulation trend
32:49
Speaker 7: with its presumably high fertility rates. Nevertheless, the US had
32:54
Speaker 7: only one point six births per woman on average in
32:57
Speaker 7: twenty twenty three, below the replacement level of about two
33:00
Speaker 7: point two. And the US Census Bureau is also projecting
33:06
Speaker 7: that the US population, for example, will peak in twenty
33:09
Speaker 7: eighty and then head into a continuous decline thereafter. So
33:16
Speaker 7: from there there's a couple of call out quotes Nick Eberstat,
33:19
Speaker 7: this is winding up and summarizing my report for today.
33:23
Speaker 7: He's saying, we won't be able to keep the pay
33:25
Speaker 7: as you go welfare state. That's going to be a
33:27
Speaker 7: doom loop when there are fewer earners than there are recipients.
33:31
Speaker 7: And mister Eberstat went on to say, but as long
33:34
Speaker 7: as we continue to increase our productivity, our health, our knowledge,
33:38
Speaker 7: I think we're going to be able to maintain and
33:40
Speaker 7: improve wealth and prosperity even in a shrinking, aging world.
33:44
Speaker 7: And again there's this kind of false optimism, you might say, Mike,
33:51
Speaker 7: about the future, where they're saying that we're all living longer,
33:55
Speaker 7: we're getting healthier all the time. And these, of course
33:58
Speaker 7: are very challengeable claims I mentioned in here too, as
34:03
Speaker 7: I put this report together. Nothing is said about the
34:06
Speaker 7: illustrious authors Pleka and Eberstat about vaccine related injuries, vaccine
34:12
Speaker 7: related deaths, and the long term potential of those things
34:16
Speaker 7: on fertility, perhaps increasing the death rate. And nothing is
34:20
Speaker 7: said about something that's rarely discussed in this context, and
34:24
Speaker 7: that's the effects of pornography, even though the Federation of
34:27
Speaker 7: Catholic Family Association Associations has convincingly linked porn to a
34:33
Speaker 7: lack of human procreation because it changes the nature of
34:37
Speaker 7: sexuality and human relations And this is an important slide
34:42
Speaker 7: that spells out a little bit more about the viewpoint
34:45
Speaker 7: of the Federation of Catholic Family Associations. Its motto is
34:50
Speaker 7: families are Europe's treasure, and it just mentions that the
34:54
Speaker 7: subtle effects of porn consumption, such as a reluctance to
34:58
Speaker 7: commit to a relationship, that those effects will multiply into
35:02
Speaker 7: future generations, and those generations may be unwilling to enter
35:07
Speaker 7: or stay in stable relationships based on fidelity and monogamy.
35:11
Speaker 7: And since a stable relationship is the first basis to
35:14
Speaker 7: start a family, porn consumption thus impacts the very wish
35:19
Speaker 7: to have children. So that's one of the most important parts,
35:23
Speaker 7: though not the only one that is not covered by
35:26
Speaker 7: these elites in their sudden interest and depopulation. But this
35:31
Speaker 7: also offers some ironies that I'll cover later about the
35:35
Speaker 7: impact of illegal immigration. There is a tie into that issue, Mike,
35:39
Speaker 7: that I'll talk about later. So back to you.
35:42
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Speaker 1: Ok, thank you, and the final well, well, I guess
37:03
Speaker 1: that's pretty much the final reminder about the petition and
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37:08
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37:17
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37:21
Speaker 5: And can I just say it's Allison Butler's birthday today.
37:24
Speaker 5: She started this petition and she says that the best
37:27
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37:30
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Speaker 1: Brilliant, Thank you, Debbie, and a reminder of final reminder
37:41
Speaker 1: that Sandy Adams will be speaking at the Chisickrend Royal
37:45
Speaker 1: Club tonight in Chiswick in London. That begins one factor today,
37:50
Speaker 1: but it's happening right now, so if you're in that area,
37:54
Speaker 1: maybe you'd like to pop along now. Yesterday fantastic news
37:59
Speaker 1: because Starmer stood up with his new plan for change
38:03
Speaker 1: and you can see the five areas that he's going
38:05
Speaker 1: to really focus on for to bring this massive change
38:08
Speaker 1: to the United Kingdom. Everything is going to be absolutely
38:10
Speaker 1: wonderful and he is going to save the world. And
38:14
Speaker 1: if you believe that, well you believe anything. But he's
38:16
Speaker 1: got to kickstart economic growth. He's going to build an
38:19
Speaker 1: NHS fit for the future. I'm sure Debbie will have
38:22
Speaker 1: something to say about that. In extra he's going to
38:25
Speaker 1: make the streets safer, he's going to break down the
38:28
Speaker 1: barriers to opportunity, and well he's going to do something
38:31
Speaker 1: else as well, but well maybe this little video clip
38:34
Speaker 1: will tell us more about that. One of the things
38:36
Speaker 1: he's going to do is build one and a half
38:38
Speaker 1: million new homes because of course of course, we've got
38:41
Speaker 1: this one and a half million new people that we've
38:43
Speaker 1: got to house, and so we've got a house some summer.
38:47
Speaker 1: So we're going to build lots more homes, are going
38:49
Speaker 1: to end NHS backlogs, as we said, and we're going
38:54
Speaker 1: to get more police on the streets and whatnot. But
38:56
Speaker 1: let's just focus for a second on the one and
38:59
Speaker 1: a half million new homes. He's made a pledge to
39:03
Speaker 1: make planning decisions on at least undred and fifty major
39:05
Speaker 1: infrastructure projects and deliver one and a half million homes
39:08
Speaker 1: in this parliament. So within the next four and a
39:10
Speaker 1: half years. This is going to be an ambitious milestone
39:14
Speaker 1: for change. It's going to triple the number of decisions
39:17
Speaker 1: being made in Parliament compared to the previous parliament. And
39:20
Speaker 1: I think that should be a real alarm bell for
39:22
Speaker 1: a lot of people because they're going to allegedly make
39:25
Speaker 1: so many decisions that people aren't going to be able
39:28
Speaker 1: to keep on top of them. We need to be
39:29
Speaker 1: watching these people ever closer, and the mainstream media is
39:33
Speaker 1: not doing that job. So that relies on the UK column,
39:38
Speaker 1: it relies on all independent media, and it relies on
39:41
Speaker 1: all of us as individuals to be watching very closely
39:44
Speaker 1: what they're doing. Government goes for growth with a rate
39:47
Speaker 1: of house building, an infrastructure construction not seen for over
39:51
Speaker 1: fifty years, as their claim. So they've set up a
39:53
Speaker 1: New Homes Accelerator Group. They have set up proposals for
39:57
Speaker 1: brownfield passports to ensure where planning proposals meet design and
40:02
Speaker 1: quality standards, the default answer the planning permission is yes.
40:05
Speaker 1: And they're creating an independent New Times Task Force as
40:10
Speaker 1: part of a long term vision to create large sale
40:12
Speaker 1: communities of at least ten thousand new homes each. There's
40:16
Speaker 1: nothing in this. It's all about house building. Nothing about
40:19
Speaker 1: this about schools, about hospitals, about roads, about rail links,
40:22
Speaker 1: about public transport. It's just about homes. So they go
40:28
Speaker 1: on to say that the budget recently confirmed that the
40:30
Speaker 1: government investment in housing will increase to five billion pounds
40:33
Speaker 1: for the next year. This includes five hundred million pounds
40:37
Speaker 1: worth in new funding for Affordable Homes program to support
40:40
Speaker 1: efforts and delivering tens of thousands of new affordable and
40:43
Speaker 1: social homes across the country. Why do I we got
40:46
Speaker 1: this pressure for this, Well, of course because of the
40:48
Speaker 1: open borders policy and the fact that we have uncontrolled
40:52
Speaker 1: migration into this country, and so maybe the place to
40:55
Speaker 1: start with this is right there, but that's another question.
40:59
Speaker 1: One of the other things that he mentioned in his
41:01
Speaker 1: delightful speech yesterday was how Britain is going to be
41:05
Speaker 1: a clean energy superpower. He's going to protect Bill Pairs
41:09
Speaker 1: by putting it putting us on track to clean par
41:11
Speaker 1: by twenty thirty. And well, let's just have again. I'm
41:17
Speaker 1: really sorry to do this to everybody, but let's just
41:19
Speaker 1: have a quick listen to what he said about.
41:22
Speaker 8: That five clean power by twenty thirty, homegrown British energy
41:29
Speaker 8: making our country more secure. So never again can a
41:33
Speaker 8: tyrant like Putin attack the living standards of working people.
41:38
Speaker 1: So a tyrant like Putin because it all comes back
41:40
Speaker 1: to Russia again. But the mainstream press, right across the
41:44
Speaker 1: press is describing this as Keir Starmer's reset, and I
41:47
Speaker 1: believe he's used this term himself. I did hear it
41:50
Speaker 1: being used, and I was not able to find the
41:52
Speaker 1: clip on that this morning, but it's all over the
41:56
Speaker 1: mainstream media. In fact, the Independent was cheeky enough to
41:59
Speaker 1: call it starmer is Great Reset. So I just wanted
42:03
Speaker 1: to end this segment with this post from someone called
42:06
Speaker 1: Adam Richards on Facebook because as far as I'm concerned,
42:10
Speaker 1: this nails, absolutely nails it. So he said, wake up people,
42:14
Speaker 1: ask yourself why the nation is featuring facing inhertans, tax changes,
42:18
Speaker 1: particularly for farms, and also employer national insurance increases. It
42:22
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the public finances because both
42:24
Speaker 1: measures will result in job losses, closures or sales small businesses,
42:29
Speaker 1: reduced tax take, and increased welfare bills. The narrative is
42:32
Speaker 1: about the twenty two billion black hole, and the public
42:35
Speaker 1: services is just that a cover narrative hiding a much
42:39
Speaker 1: darker agenda. So why is it being done? Just like
42:42
Speaker 1: lockdowns during COVID, It's being done to destroy small businesses
42:46
Speaker 1: and massively reduce the number of people who owned assets
42:48
Speaker 1: that can make money. The intent is to push more
42:51
Speaker 1: and more ownership of land and businesses in corporate hands
42:54
Speaker 1: where it can be monetized and controlled. It's all about
42:57
Speaker 1: making sure everyone else has no money, no ass and
43:00
Speaker 1: no power. That it is the great reset in action,
43:04
Speaker 1: a centralization of power and wealth, the new feudalism. We
43:07
Speaker 1: will all be the new peasants. What you're witnessing is
43:10
Speaker 1: our new leaders, whom we know have greater loyalty to
43:13
Speaker 1: Davos than their own country, implementing what they've learned there,
43:16
Speaker 1: just as Trudeau has in Canada and tried in the Netherlands.
43:21
Speaker 1: And he finished off by saying, so the time for
43:23
Speaker 1: lawful resistance is now. If we don't do it now,
43:25
Speaker 1: we won't get another chance, and we'll be on the
43:28
Speaker 1: slippery slope of owning nothing and depending utterly on big
43:31
Speaker 1: businesses and governments for our wellbeing. Do you want that?
43:35
Speaker 1: I certainly don't, and I certainly don't either. I don't
43:38
Speaker 1: imagine Debbie and Mark do either. We will talk about
43:42
Speaker 1: this more an extra But I thought Adam's comments there
43:45
Speaker 1: were banged on the money. But Mark, let me come
43:48
Speaker 1: back to you then. And the issue of migration.
43:54
Speaker 7: Yes, there's been a major development here in the States
43:58
Speaker 7: in very recent days, Mike, and that has to do
44:01
Speaker 7: with some land in Texas. I'm referring to a news
44:04
Speaker 7: brief that I wrote to get all this together a
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Speaker 7: little early in the morning here Star County, Texas, near
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Speaker 7: where I live. It appears President elect Donald Trump will
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Speaker 7: accept an offer from the Texas General Land Office for
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Speaker 7: the federal government to use fourteen hundred plus acres of
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Speaker 7: land that the state now owns in Star County for
44:24
Speaker 7: Trump's proposed detention and large scale deportation operations. It's a
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Speaker 7: lot of land in a very remote area. Since this
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Speaker 7: particular Trump proposal is a major item on his domestic agenda,
44:37
Speaker 7: all eyes are on him, the eyes of his friends
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Speaker 7: and foes alike, to see if he'll really carry out
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Speaker 7: this deportation plan, which would be the largest in US history.
44:48
Speaker 7: Trump has clarified that he'll focus mainly on deporting illegal
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Speaker 7: aliens who've committed serious crimes, not just anyone, and we'll
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Speaker 7: move on from there. I have a map that shows
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Speaker 7: those not familiar with as part of Texas what this
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Speaker 7: is all about. This is the Rio Grand Valley, a
45:05
Speaker 7: pretty large four county area in the southern tip of Texas.
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Speaker 7: I happen to live in Hidago. The orange colored one,
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Speaker 7: but the big blue arrow to the left shows approximately
45:16
Speaker 7: where that state land is going to be located. That
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Speaker 7: would be the platform allegedly supposedly for the deportation and
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Speaker 7: detention plan, so that's where it would be. It shows
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Speaker 7: the entire state of Texas there. To give you an
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Speaker 7: even better idea, and we'll go from there and we'll
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Speaker 7: talk about the scale of deportation. Trump says perhaps twenty
45:37
Speaker 7: million illegal aliens are living in the US, but he
45:40
Speaker 7: focused on those who've committed serious crimes, but adding those
45:44
Speaker 7: whose asylum bids may have been denied by the courts.
45:47
Speaker 7: That's another criterion. Trump has vowed to exceed or surpass
45:53
Speaker 7: the nineteen fifties Operation WETBAC interesting name. Under President Eisenhower.
45:58
Speaker 7: That was a deportation plan then when the federal government
46:02
Speaker 7: claimed it sent one point three million people back to
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Speaker 7: Mexico and other countries. Meanwhile, the Pew Research Center claims
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Speaker 7: the number of illegals living in the US is only
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Speaker 7: about half, or around eleven million. And we've got a
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Speaker 7: letterhead from Commissioner Don Buckingham, who happens to be a
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Speaker 7: medical doctor from the Texas General Land Office. She noted
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Speaker 7: as Texas Land Commissioner, I recently acquired this fourteen hundred
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Speaker 7: and two acre ranch along the border near Rio Grand City.
46:34
Speaker 7: In less than twenty four hours after the purchase, on
46:37
Speaker 7: October twenty third, I granted a seventy six hundred foot
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Speaker 7: long or one point five mile easement across the property
46:45
Speaker 7: allowing the Texas border wall to be built. And one
46:49
Speaker 7: question that that opens up, Mike, is some unassembled border
46:53
Speaker 7: wall sections only a few hour, only a few miles
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Speaker 7: from me. Will they be reassembled and built in to
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Speaker 7: this new border wall or newly re you might say,
47:06
Speaker 7: recontinued border wall. They stopped it during Biden. They took
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Speaker 7: some of it down. Now will they continue putting it
47:12
Speaker 7: up using those discarded sections? We'll soon find out. We
47:16
Speaker 7: have a call out quote from the General Land Office
47:19
Speaker 7: Commissioner Don Buckingham. She said, quote, my office was able
47:24
Speaker 7: to survey several islands in the Rio Grande River, A
47:27
Speaker 7: lot of people don't know it has islands, and declare
47:29
Speaker 7: those islands part of Texas, thereby permitting law enforcement, she says,
47:34
Speaker 7: to end all human trafficking and all drug smuggling on
47:39
Speaker 7: those islands. This is her claim. I haven't been able
47:41
Speaker 7: to totally confirm that. And then I yesterday spoke to
47:46
Speaker 7: former Sheriff Joe or Pile, the well known Maricopa County,
47:49
Speaker 7: Arizona sheriff from nineteen ninety three to twenty seventeen, a
47:53
Speaker 7: good friend of President Trump and a good contact of mine.
47:57
Speaker 7: When I asked him how realistic trump deportation plan is, Mike,
48:02
Speaker 7: he said, quote, it's how you do it and how
48:05
Speaker 7: much help you have when doing it. And I'll mention
48:09
Speaker 7: that when I interviewed our Pile in his office near
48:11
Speaker 7: Phoenix last year, he reminded me that one of the
48:15
Speaker 7: best approaches to curb illegal immigration was to work directly
48:20
Speaker 7: with Mexico, like he did as a leading DEA agent
48:25
Speaker 7: within Mexico in the nineteen seventies. He was also a
48:29
Speaker 7: diplomatic attache at the time, and he was able to
48:32
Speaker 7: persuade Mexico's government to get involved. He believes cutting foreign
48:37
Speaker 7: aid will do more to get Mexico on board than
48:41
Speaker 7: applying tariffs to Mexican imports into the US. We'll see
48:44
Speaker 7: what happens. But an irony I wanted to mention Mike
48:47
Speaker 7: as I wind this up, is that right now, with
48:51
Speaker 7: the US having such a low birth rate but the
48:54
Speaker 7: Central American countries having comparatively higher birth rates, the US
48:59
Speaker 7: actually to some extent needs that foreign labor for harvesting crops.
49:04
Speaker 7: For a time, even though many agreed that this mass
49:08
Speaker 7: migration is way over the top and needs to be
49:10
Speaker 7: seriously cut back, but that's one of the ironies, the
49:16
Speaker 7: unintended consequences, you might say, of these trends. So we
49:21
Speaker 7: can talk about that a little more in extra among
49:23
Speaker 7: other things. So that's it for today on that subject.
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Speaker 1: Thanks Mark. I think we could probably have a discussion
49:29
Speaker 1: about whether the consequences are intended or unintended, because I
49:34
Speaker 1: would argue that they're absolutely intended. But Debbie, let's come
49:38
Speaker 1: back to you then, and well, the question is neurotechnology.
49:43
Speaker 5: Yes it is indeed, And I want to thank Stephanie
49:46
Speaker 5: actually our very own producer, Stephanie Sinclef, for introducing me
49:49
Speaker 5: to a piece of video that nobody knew quite what
49:52
Speaker 5: it was or who it was. And this has taken
49:54
Speaker 5: me on to this segment today. So what are you thinking?
49:57
Speaker 5: Are your memories yours? To introduce you firstly to Elizabeth
50:02
Speaker 5: Loftus now she's in her eighties now, she's an American
50:06
Speaker 5: cognitive psychologist, and she's best known for the misinformation effect
50:12
Speaker 5: or false memories. Here's a little clip. Elizabeth Loftus.
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Speaker 9: The work that I do involves studying people's false beliefs
50:20
Speaker 9: and false memories. It turns out that we actually sometimes
50:25
Speaker 9: believe that things happen to us, or even have memories
50:28
Speaker 9: for things that never happen. And in the work that
50:31
Speaker 9: I do, I actually deliberately tried to plant false beliefs,
50:35
Speaker 9: are false memories into the minds of people so I
50:39
Speaker 9: can watch this process happen.
50:41
Speaker 1: So we have.
50:42
Speaker 9: Gotten people to believe that they were lost in a
50:46
Speaker 9: shopping mall for an extended time, that they were frightened
50:49
Speaker 9: and crying and had to be rescued and reunited with
50:53
Speaker 9: the family. We've gotten people to believe that they broke
50:56
Speaker 9: a window and cut their hand, or even that they
51:00
Speaker 9: witnessed demonic possession as a child, or that they met
51:03
Speaker 9: and shook hands with bugs Bunny at Disneyland. All of
51:07
Speaker 9: these are things that didn't happen, and yet we can
51:11
Speaker 9: get people to remember that they did.
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Speaker 5: So let's talk twenty twenty four, and let's talk the
51:19
Speaker 5: reality of neurotech and what actually is neurotech. So it's
51:22
Speaker 5: a fusion of neuroscience and technology. I don't think you
51:25
Speaker 5: should ever be actually using the words brain, mind and
51:28
Speaker 5: technology together, to be quite honest, especially how we're going
51:32
Speaker 5: to see it. So how are they doing it? Were neurofeedback,
51:35
Speaker 5: functional magnetic resonance imaging, which is otherwise known as MRI,
51:39
Speaker 5: brain computer interfaces, transcrane your magnetic stimulation, and neuroprosthetics which
51:45
Speaker 5: is otherwise known as mind reading devices revealing the brain's secrets,
51:51
Speaker 5: such as neuralink, and of course we all know neuralink.
51:54
Speaker 5: Elon Musk another big supporter of President Trump. So Elon
51:59
Speaker 5: Musk has got this big, huge brain ship business, and
52:04
Speaker 5: Palanteer and Peter Thiel have got the data. Are you
52:07
Speaker 5: putting things together? So it doesn't just stop at neuralink though,
52:11
Speaker 5: we do have other companies beyond neuralink, so we're looking
52:14
Speaker 5: at Syncron here, which is Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates.
52:18
Speaker 5: I probably don't have to say too much more, but
52:20
Speaker 5: The Financial Times has also brought out a recent article
52:24
Speaker 5: talking about I think you'll probably remember conspiracy theories a
52:28
Speaker 5: long time ago talking about graphene and the significance of graphene.
52:31
Speaker 5: Well it's no longer a conspiracy because here you are
52:34
Speaker 5: the Financial Times. Brain implant made from graphene set to
52:38
Speaker 5: begin UK trial and here is the trial. It comes
52:41
Speaker 5: from Manchester. It's launched in September twenty four. Apparently they're
52:46
Speaker 5: going to be using graphene. When it comes to precision surgery,
52:50
Speaker 5: I'm sure it'll be expanded, but just take note of
52:53
Speaker 5: the word neuroelectronics because that in itself is very important.
52:58
Speaker 5: And I just want to introduce you to a film
53:01
Speaker 5: documentary called I Am Human. And the reason I want
53:04
Speaker 5: to introduce you to this is because of this lady,
53:06
Speaker 5: Professor of Law and Philosophy, Nita Farah Harney, and I
53:11
Speaker 5: want you to take note of what the documentary is.
53:13
Speaker 5: So it's built as a thriller of science fiction into technology,
53:18
Speaker 5: and they say what it means to be human is
53:20
Speaker 5: about to vastly change. And Professor Farahhni is also of
53:25
Speaker 5: the World Economic Forum STABLE. She's also Professor of Law
53:30
Speaker 5: and Philosophy and the founding director of Duke Science and
53:33
Speaker 5: Society of Society. Let's just introduce you very quickly to
53:37
Speaker 5: Professor Nita Farahni. Listen carefully.
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Speaker 10: We are about to enter into the most consequential revolution
53:45
Speaker 10: in the history of the human race where we can
53:49
Speaker 10: take control of our cognitive evolution.
53:54
Speaker 11: What if we could expand your capabilities beyond when we
53:57
Speaker 11: as humans have never had before.
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Speaker 7: What we're seeing is that technology is becoming part of
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Speaker 7: us because we're linking biological brains directly to machines, we're
54:11
Speaker 7: handing the reins of our own lives or our own.
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Speaker 1: Minds to us.
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Speaker 7: We get to choose how we think who we are.
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Speaker 7: We're talking about technologies that could radically alter the way
54:21
Speaker 7: we are as human beings.
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Speaker 1: History is littered with good intentions.
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Speaker 11: But if we start tinkering with a brain, we start
54:30
Speaker 11: changing it. Are we about to fundamentally change what it
54:34
Speaker 11: means to be human?
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Speaker 1: And if so, are we okay with that?
54:43
Speaker 5: Did it send the chill down your spine? It did mine.
54:45
Speaker 5: So here's Professor Nita for our Knees page at the
54:49
Speaker 5: WEF if you want to go and have a look
54:50
Speaker 5: at it. And the next bit of video, very short
54:53
Speaker 5: clip of video, is what Stephanie Sinclair sent me and
54:57
Speaker 5: this is what started this whole topic of So have
55:00
Speaker 5: a look at Professor Nita fer Arnie at WUEF and
55:04
Speaker 5: what she has to say.
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Speaker 11: Interestingly, not just from neuroscience, but also from psychology, there's
55:11
Speaker 11: a wonderful researcher by the name of Elizabeth Loftus who's
55:14
Speaker 11: done some really fascinating work looking at planting false memories,
55:19
Speaker 11: and she has a great Ted talk on this as well,
55:22
Speaker 11: talking about planting and false memories, where she's successfully in
55:25
Speaker 11: a number of experiments, has planted false memories, including people
55:28
Speaker 11: believing that they've been at Disney World with characters who
55:30
Speaker 11: are not Disney characters, taking photographs with those characters, or
55:35
Speaker 11: you know, that they've seen a stop sign that wasn't
55:37
Speaker 11: actually there, simply by manipulating images and stories that she
55:40
Speaker 11: tells to them, and then they come back into the
55:41
Speaker 11: lab and they are convicted in their belief. And so
55:45
Speaker 11: there's some really interesting research that we can plant false
55:48
Speaker 11: memories in the brain. And in a different context, one
55:52
Speaker 11: of the emerging areas that's really interesting in law neuroscience
55:54
Speaker 11: is pain detection. And once we understand the circuit trees
55:59
Speaker 11: that cause pain, I guess the question is could we
56:03
Speaker 11: then instill pain and use that in many coercive measures
56:08
Speaker 11: in the legal system as well.
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Speaker 5: Wow, that's amazing instilling pain for coercion measures. So can
56:16
Speaker 5: we spy on the brain? Is your mind your thoughts private?
56:20
Speaker 5: So this is what Professor Nita Farahani has to say
56:23
Speaker 5: about spying on your brain.
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Speaker 11: If we lived in a world of total transparency, if
56:29
Speaker 11: even what you're thinking right now is something that you
56:34
Speaker 11: could know, that I could know, and that we all
56:37
Speaker 11: could see. And we've been able to decode that now
56:40
Speaker 11: through a simple consumer based EEG device such that we
56:44
Speaker 11: can literally see what he's thinking. Now. We're not yet
56:49
Speaker 11: at the point where what all of you are thinking
56:52
Speaker 11: right now is something that like a little thought bubble
56:55
Speaker 11: above your head, is something we can see. But we're
56:58
Speaker 11: getting there. We're getting to the point where there is
57:02
Speaker 11: transparency a thought of emotion, which means that the NSA
57:07
Speaker 11: and other organizations can spine not just on your email
57:12
Speaker 11: and your cell phones, but soon potentially on your brains
57:15
Speaker 11: as well.
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Speaker 5: And she's right, because they are doing that right now.
57:21
Speaker 1: But how.
57:23
Speaker 5: Is your brain being spied on? What's under your Christmas tree?
57:26
Speaker 5: This year? Have a listen.
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Speaker 11: Wearable devices, So these are brain sensors that are starting
57:33
Speaker 11: to be embedded in everyday devices.
57:35
Speaker 5: But until now have.
57:37
Speaker 11: Been a number of niche companies that really have focused
57:40
Speaker 11: on mindfulness and meditation the use of for example, brain
57:44
Speaker 11: centers that can pick up electrical activity in the brain
57:47
Speaker 11: at a pretty low resolution. But advances in AI have
57:51
Speaker 11: both improved what the signal is that can come from
57:54
Speaker 11: the brain and enabled the miniaturization of those products. As
57:59
Speaker 11: a lot of the major tech companies start to invest
58:03
Speaker 11: in these brain sensors, it's a huge, i think untapped
58:06
Speaker 11: market in many ways of integrating them into everyday devices.
58:09
Speaker 11: These are earbuds or watches or headphones and the soft
58:13
Speaker 11: cups around the ears. Many of those products are hitting
58:16
Speaker 11: the market this year and others are hitting them within
58:19
Speaker 11: the next two years, such that people can listen to music,
58:22
Speaker 11: a phone call, et cetera while having those devices in ears. Initially,
58:27
Speaker 11: what they will be capable of doing is very high
58:29
Speaker 11: level brain state reading things like are you tired, are
58:33
Speaker 11: you paying attention? Is your mind wandering? Are you happy
58:36
Speaker 11: or sad? They maybe enable interaction up, down, left, right,
58:41
Speaker 11: for interaction with other technologies, and they're being embedded into
58:45
Speaker 11: things like visual virtual reality headset.
58:51
Speaker 5: And yes they are real, they are available, and here's
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Speaker 5: the proof with plenty more coming down the line. And
58:58
Speaker 5: I will ask just one more time, do you know
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Speaker 5: what's in your headphones? Do you know who's listening to
59:04
Speaker 5: your brain? Do you know what's underneath your Christmas tree?
59:07
Speaker 5: Careful what you wish for?
59:08
Speaker 1: Over to you, Mike, Thanks Debbie Well look, we're just
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Speaker 1: going to finish today. I mean, Brian mentioned the passing
59:15
Speaker 1: of doctor and buy if I've pronounced her name correctly
59:19
Speaker 1: on Monday. But you just wanted to end with a
59:22
Speaker 1: tribute today.
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Speaker 5: Yes, I would thank you so much. And in my
59:28
Speaker 5: day we walked around the ward at this time of
59:32
Speaker 5: the year with our capes back inside out. We were
59:34
Speaker 5: singing carols and saying prayers. And I thought this picture
59:38
Speaker 5: of nurses in an old school Nightingale ward was very poignant, because,
59:44
Speaker 5: very very sadly, Anada Bouceray tragically lost her fight to
59:48
Speaker 5: cancer on Saturday, November Saturday, November thirtieth, twenty twenty four.
59:55
Speaker 5: She was surrounded by her family. She'd been posting on
59:59
Speaker 5: x just a couple of days before her condition suddenly
1:00:02
Speaker 5: deteriorated incredibly. I'm just devastated to hear an amazing warrior.
1:00:08
Speaker 5: She did so much and said so much, stood up
1:00:12
Speaker 5: for justice, informed consent, the vaccine injured, absolutely extraordinary, incredible soul,
1:00:19
Speaker 5: a brilliant lawyer who fought for justice. And we will
1:00:22
Speaker 5: continue fighting in Anna's name. But I just wanted to
1:00:26
Speaker 5: finish with a little with her own words. Actually from
1:00:31
Speaker 5: playing God, which UK column premiered in the UK. So
1:00:35
Speaker 5: from Anna herself, just some amazingly poignant words and our
1:00:39
Speaker 5: thoughts and prayers and thanks to her family for everything
1:00:44
Speaker 5: in memory of Anna Debusa.
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Speaker 12: You have the inalienable fundamental right to life and no
1:00:50
Speaker 12: one has the right to take that away from you.
1:00:53
Speaker 12: In our society we allow for killing by mistake and
1:00:58
Speaker 12: intentional murder. And what I liken it to is the
1:01:01
Speaker 12: film Mad Max, which was a completely lawless society. But
1:01:06
Speaker 12: essentially you know whose fault is that under the human
1:01:09
Speaker 12: rights instruments, particularly the International Covenance on the International Human
1:01:15
Speaker 12: Rights Covenants, it specifically places an obligation on the state
1:01:19
Speaker 12: who gives an undertaking. So it's the most serious promise
1:01:24
Speaker 12: you can give that they will respect, promote, uphold, etc.
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Speaker 5: Human rights. And there's also information online to donate to
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Speaker 5: help the family with funeral costs in memory of Anna Tipustery.
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Speaker 1: And that'll be in the show notes on the UK
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