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Guest Hypnotist Victoria Gallagher - How Hypnotists Can Manifest $10k Months · The Hypnotist

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Welcome to The Hypnotist, the show that gives you inside
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access to cutting edge hypnosis with real clients facing genuine
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issues. Brought to you by the
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Hypnotherapist, demanded by celebrities, CEOs and even
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royalty. Adam Cox.
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These recordings took place live from Adam Smith in London's
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world famous Harley Street. So get yourself comfortable and
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enjoy today's episode of The Hypnotist.
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Hi, it's Adam here and you're about to listen to a
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conversation I was having with Victoria Gallagher, who is a
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very well renowned law of attraction hypnotherapist.
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She has two different communities on school.
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And we were talking about why it's so challenging for people
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that are passionate about hypnosis and hypnotherapy to
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actually make a decent living from it.
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And unfortunately there are way more people qualified in
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hypnotherapy than there are actually people having
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livelihoods and a good stable source of income from
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hypnotherapy. And I believe that is a tragedy
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because there is no shortage of people in the world that really
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need help. And unfortunately, I think those
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people that have spent years quite often studying hypnosis
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can get very, very frustrated with the fact that unless they
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have certain empowering belief systems and have certain
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knowledge about how to acquire clients and how to price what
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they do in the right way, it's very, very difficult to be
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anything more than a hobby. And I'm saying this to someone
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that when I started, hypnotherapy for me was a hobby
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that I did on Sunday mornings. And then it became a lucrative
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hobby. And now it's the main thing that
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I do. But that only happened, I think,
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because I had a background in business, so I had a lot of the
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business skills already, and also I'd already had the
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experience of earning A6 figure income before I was a
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hypnotherapist. So for me, it didn't feel alien
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to be earning that kind of money as a hypnotherapist.
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If you are a hypnotherapist, I would encourage you to not just
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listen to this conversation, but check out the links in the
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description to learn more about Victoria's school community.
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And also I also offer mentorship.
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And the main mentorship that Ioffer is how people can build a
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business around their hypnosis skills with one to one
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mentoring, coaching and strategies that involve things
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like having a podcast, YouTube channel, building funnels and
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things like that. So if that's of interest, check
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out those resources. But most of all, check out this
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conversation because I think even if you get one or two
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things that are helpful, and by the way, not just if you're a
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hypnotherapist, but if you are a different form of therapist, if
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you are a coach, if you are in the healing or helping
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profession and you're not earning what you want to be
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earning right now, there's going to be something of value in this
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conversation. So find a nice comfortable
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place, relax and enjoy this conversation.
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Hi, it's Adam here. And welcome to today's episode
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of the Hypnotist. Only today I'm not your
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hypnotist. We are very honored and
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privileged to welcome back guest hypnotist Victoria Gallagher.
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Welcome back. Thank you.
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You know what, it's actually my honor and privilege to be able
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to come back. That's, you know, that's quite a
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quite something to be able to be invited back a second time.
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So thank you so much. I really appreciate it.
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Just as a refresher to the audience, if you didn't catch
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Victoria's last time she was on the show, Victoria is very well
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known for law of attraction and manifestation and had an amazing
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session based on attracting more wealth and abundance in your
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life. So I'm going to put the link to
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that other episode actually in the show notes.
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So if you want to check that one out, have a look.
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But for those people that don't know you yet or want a refresher
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of last time, give us a bit of background about what you're
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known for and how you started in this world of hypnosis.
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Yeah, absolutely. So, well, let's see, I started
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out about 25 years ago. I was in the financial services
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industry and I found myself kind of burnt out on that and kind of
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looking for a change. I didn't know exactly what that
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was going to look like. Took some personal development
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courses and decided actually at the time that I wanted to make
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these hypnotic recordings. I didn't know that they were
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going to be hypnotic. I just thought they were going
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to be like locations and visualizations.
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And so I was like, how do I get some kind of credentials?
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And all of a sudden I stumbled upon hypnotherapy certification
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school. I became certified.
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And then I just decided, OK, well, I'm going to go ahead and
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open up an office. I do that.
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And as soon as I do that, my branch manager where I was a
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stockbroker, found out what I was doing and he gave me an
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ultimatum and I chose my passion.
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And it was, you know, a little bit of a rocky road for the
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first year and a half of that because I literally was coming
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in with no income. But I luckily had a mindset
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that, you know, it definitely needs a little help at that time
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because I was brand new on the scene as a hypnotherapist,
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really just kind of fresh wet behind the ears as far as
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learning how to reprogram my own mind.
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And, you know, that's one of the things too is like people, you
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know, they, they Start learning these, these tools, they Start
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learning lava and hypnosis and, and the, you know, it's, you
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know, it, it's something that takes a while before it really
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gets integrated into your being and who you are.
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So, you know, a lot, a lot of times people will like, oh, it's
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been a couple weeks and, and nothing's happened and haven't
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changed my life yet. Well, it just, you know, it
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takes a little while to really integrate these things.
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So Fast forward, you know, now it's been 25 years, I have
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become a number one best selling author of several books, namely
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Practical Law of Attraction is my signature book.
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Also, as the last time I was on here, I was just releasing my
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app and that was a believe app. And so thank you to your
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audience because so many of you actually went ahead and
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downloaded that app and subscribe to it.
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So I really appreciate that and, and, you know, lately it's all
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been about community and really I'm helping my, my community to,
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you know, just get more access to me and, you know, be able to,
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you know, work on very specific financial challenges and money
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blocks and, and really achieving success in in their careers.
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So in a nutshell, that's kind of the.
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Yeah. And you mentioned there 25
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years, I mean hypnotherapy, you're going to see certain
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things that are constant, you know, certain issues, certain
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kind of things that kind of come up again and again.
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What would you say is the biggest change that you've seen
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from your perspective over that quarter of a century?
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A. Quarter of a century.
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I didn't really put it into that exact perspective, but I would
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say no. Well, number one, more people
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are just aware of the fact that it even is a thing, you know,
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and still, I still think we're in its early infancy.
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There's still people that I come across all the time that still
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don't know what hypnosis is or if they've heard of hypnosis, of
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course, they just automatically think of stage hypnosis and you
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know, swinging watches and clucking like chickens and
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things like that. So it's still relatively new.
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But I would say the only difference really is that we
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know a lot more about it. We know a lot more about the way
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the mind works and more and more people.
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I would say there's, you know, there's definitely, you know,
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the intelligence, the awareness of hypnosis is definitely
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increased. People are aware that these
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technologies, these modalities exist.
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I agree that the misconceptions are still there because when I,
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when I flew into Vegas last July for hypno thoughts, the, the guy
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at border control was saying, oh, what are you here for?
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And I'm saying hypnosis conference and all of those
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stereotypes come up like, oh, can you make people do this?
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And, you know, all the whole Elvis and, and chicken kind of
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things that link to stage hypnosis, they're still there, I
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think in a lot of people. But that just shows how much
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more work there is to do to educate and kind of inspire and,
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you know, have people understanding the reality of
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hypnotherapy rather than the the cliches and the Hollywood tropes
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that are still there. It actually excites me when you
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know, when people don't know what it is or it like, I am
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like, Oh my God, we're still like, there's still so many more
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people out there to help and to, to get on board with this.
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So it's, it's actually really, really exciting.
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I'm sorry. I almost I I.
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Think not a problem because one of the things is that I've I've
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seen is that there is a, a strange dynamic in the sense
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that when I studied hypnotherapy, there were lots of
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people. I think there's lots of people
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that are passionate about helping people.
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There's lots of people that are fascinated and curious about
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this fusion of psychology, psychotherapy, neuroplasticity
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and hypnosis and clinical hypnosis specifically.
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But there was a really fascinating thing that in the
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very last class of this kind of three-year course that had a
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done on hypnotherapy, the, the teachers at the end, they said,
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right here's the reality check. Only 3% of you that graduate
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this class will be making any kind of money from hypnotherapy
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in a year's time. And I remember thinking one for
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me that that was kind of like a red rag to a bull.
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It's kind of like, right, I want to be that 3%.
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But it also seemed like disingenuous and a little bit
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unethical because if they knew that, if they knew that right at
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the very end of people studying that it's so difficult for
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people to make a viable income and, and enough to stay in the
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industry. Didn't they have a duty to
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actually teach people not just how to do hypnotherapy, but how
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to acquire clients and how to actually monetize the very
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skills? And they didn't.
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And I remember having conversations in the in the bar
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afterwards, we all kind of went after the end of the course.
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And they're like, you know, well, they felt disheartened and
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kind of hopeless. Like they're all excited about
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working with clients and then had this idea that they wouldn't
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be able to actually kind of make a living from it.
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And I'm just curious from your perspective, what do you think
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it is that means that such a small amount of people that are
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very capable hypnotherapists actually thrive financially in
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the world of hypnotherapy if they're good?
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Because normally in, in lots of professions, like if you're
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competent, like in stockbroking, in, in finance, the income is
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there. But in hypnotherapy it isn't.
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There's very talented people that don't have anywhere near
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enough clients. You know, it's really
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interesting because right when you said only 3% of you are
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going to make money, I mean, right there, that's a
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suggestion. I mean, to me that's like kind
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of almost like an irresponsible thing to suggest to your student
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right after they've just gone through and gotten these
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credentials. And then now they're like out
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there thinking, OK, well, I guess, you know, and most people
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don't consider themselves in that top 3%.
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So I think that it is a perception.
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I would say that it depends on who you're listening to.
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For me, I think I was really fortunate to not be a member of
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any of the associations that were going around telling people
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or not. Not necessarily that the
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associations were telling people, but the members
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themselves would, you know, discuss how difficult it is to
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make money. And so when you're, it's who you
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listen to, it's who you're associating yourself with.
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And most people just are infecting each other with this
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negative belief, this negative programming.
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There's nothing about hypnotherapy in and of itself
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that should cause a person to and not be able to make just as
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much money as a coach, as much money as a doctor, as much money
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as an accountant. It's a profession.
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It's a, it's a legitimate profession just like any other
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things. So I just believe that it is a
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miss. It's just another one of those
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misconceptions. And yeah, I was fortunate to not
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have that misconception. You know, going into it, I was
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in the habit because I was in the financial industry.
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It was in the habit of asking people for large amounts of
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money. I mean, I literally was dealing
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with people who had millions of dollars.
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So I knew that people had money. I knew people would pay to have
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their problems solved. And my clients are the, you
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know, the clients that I have right now that come to me.
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I mean, they have clients that have because a lot of the
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clients that I deal with are hypnotherapist.
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And, you know, they have clients that pay them thousands of
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dollars a month to work with them because they see the value
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in their investing in their, their mind and, and their, and
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their, you know, just their, their mindset, which I think is
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the number one thing. I would just personally, I just
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think the number one thing you can invest in is your own mind,
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your own personal growth because what else?
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You know, this like the thing that's running the whole show,
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it is, it's going to decide whether you're healthy or not.
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It's going to decide whether you make enough money or not.
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It's going to decide the kind of relationships you have.
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It is literally the thing that is going to cause you to have a
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good life or not. And so I just wonder how much a
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lot of hypnotherapists that get in.
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That was the other thing too, is I always thought like I always
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just felt like I need to walk my talk.
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If hypnotherapy is true, then I should be able to make the
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amount of money that I want. And so I always felt like I need
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to be a walking advertisement in every way, shape or form.
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I need to be in good shape. I need to have good
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relationships. I need to have my mind, you
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know, geared toward, you know, financial freedom.
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I need to be the, you know, I need to embody what I'm helping
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other people to do. So I don't know.
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Does that make sense? It does and I'm glad you said
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that because I think I think congruency is you know, is like
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that Gandhi quote, you know, be the change you want to see in
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the world. And if if hypnotherapist can't
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make changes to their belief systems, their mindset, their
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habits, who can? And unfortunately do.
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Do you remember the movie from the I think it was the 80s
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Bedknobs and Broomsticks? Was it like a Disney film?
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I. Think so?
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I don't remember the content, but I remember the name of it.
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Yeah, so in there there's the Angela Lansbury character who is
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this kind of a witch, like she's learning magic and she tracks
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down the kind of the the author of the book and he doesn't
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believe in anything that he's done.
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He's just written it. But she has got the belief of
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doing it and therefore she can do magic and he can't.
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And unfortunately, I do think that there are trainers of
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hypnotherapists that don't really believe in what they're
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doing. They just kind of see it as kind
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of like, OK, right, learn this and learn that.
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And every now and then you find people that really their belief
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systems align with what they do. And they're the ones that tend
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to have the clients, have the enthusiasm, have the passion for
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it for that very reason. Because if you have this skill
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which enables you to identify issues, solve issues, harness
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the power of neuroplasticity to make changes, then there's
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absolutely no reason why you can't earn more, you know, tap
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into highly resourceful states, solve problems quickly.
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And I'm just always fascinated of the incongruences where you
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see people with all the qualifications and then not
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quite doing that. The other thing that I found
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fascinating with that whole kind of 3% thing.
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And I, I was like you, I, I kind of felt like that's such a, a
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disempowering suggestion. You've got people in a highly
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receptive state and you give them that suggestion right at
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the end. You know, that's like, you know,
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a damp squib on their enthusiasm.
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But since then, I'll probably say that number checks out.
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Like of the people that I actually kind of studied with,
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very, very few are actually continuing to do it.
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And I think part of that is that one of the belief systems, I
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think for a lot of hypnotherapists is that it
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almost becomes this kind of learning junkie system where
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they want to learn a new technique, learn a new protocol,
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learn a new thing. And they're learning about the
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therapy, but not necessarily about client acquisition, not
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about business models, not about marketing.
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And everyone knows that a, a McDonald's burger isn't the best
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quality burger. And I think some hypnotherapists
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are trying to be better therapists without also learning
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how to be better with business and monetization.
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And your background in finance, I think helped you in the same
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way that my background in owning APR agency like helped me.
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We had a different lens to, to kind of go through.
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And I think one of the fascinating kind of things is
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the, the willingness to get good by seeing more clients.
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Because I think a very empowering belief that I had
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when I started in, in hypnotherapy, like you wet
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behind the ears, enthusiastic but lacking experience is that
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you don't learn to swim by reading a book.
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You have to jump in the pool. So my belief system was the
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better I get at acquiring clients, the more clients I see,
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the more clients I see, the more experience I get, the more
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distinctions I learn and the more belief I have in my own
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abilities and therefore the more successful I become.
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And I think a lot of people never see enough clients to
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really get that flywheel in motion.
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It never quite takes off, if that makes any sense.
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It absolutely does. And I like what you said that,
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you know, you need actually to have, I mean, most of the
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experience that I have, you know, and I have just kind of an
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eclectic background. I mean between my hypnotherapy,
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but then like just all the various different books and, you
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know, the other kinds of trainings that I have done, you
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know, the impersonal growth. Both in metaphysics and all of
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that. Those were just things I did for
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pleasure, but they really helped me to feel like, OK, I'm
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definitely qualified. And I think that a lot of
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people, and because I did actually get to try my hand at a
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little bit of coaching through the personal development
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seminars that I was involved in, you know, we would actually get
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to, you know, play the role of a coach sometimes.
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And so I kind of got a little bit of that that that sense of
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like, wow, you know, like over this 90 day period of time, look
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at the transformation that I have been able to effectuate in
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this person. So I really felt pretty
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confident in my skills coming into this.
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Plus, you know, being a stockbroker, I can tell you the
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last thing that my clients really wanted to talk about was
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their money. And they would always come in
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and talk about some other kind of problem.
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And so I was already helping people to solve a lot of their
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problems. But you know, I think a lot of
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people, they go in to this and like, they literally are just
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lifelong learners, which is great.
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I love learning, but they put another certification and
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another certification and another certification ahead of
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just the experience. And I'm just going to tell you,
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you can't get good at doing hypnotherapy by just learning
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it. Like you say, you know, just
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learning and getting an acquiring certifications.
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If you've got to at some point trust yourself and be willing to
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jump in and willing to work with people so that you can acquire
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the real world skills, the real world skills, there's not no
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replacement for that. And you learn how people think.
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You learn what you know, what they are actually dealing with
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rather than you know. And it's, it's unique for
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everyone, but you pick up on certain patterns the way that
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I've picked up on, you know, as I've specialized in helping
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people with various different money blocks.
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And this right here, I mean, this whole conversation, at the
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end of the day, what we're talking about are people's money
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blocks. All of this, like all of the
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need to go and get more certifications than need the
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thought process that now you can't earn enough money in
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hypnotherapy. I'm here to tell you, yes, you
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can. And there and there's enough to
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go around. And that was one of the one of
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the things I also learned early on, just being somebody who, you
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know, specializes in metaphysics, law of attraction.
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You know, I just always thought about this concept of abundance.
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I think a lot of people come from this idea of like, OK,
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well, there's so many hypnotists out there, there's not enough
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business to go around. And so there is that the block
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that people have that like the more hypnotists there are, the
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less there is for me. But there's, I mean, we just
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talked about the fact that still so few people even know what
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hypnosis is yet or, you know, they have misconceptions.
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So if if that's still going on, then what that means is there is
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a plethora of people out there like a user service and there's
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probably still a need for thousands and thousands, 10s,
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tens of thousands of more hypnotherapists before we ever
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reached any kind of point of saturation is you.
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Know we're not anywhere close to saturation and the great thought
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experiment is this idea that if you stopped 100 people in a busy
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St., you know, in the city centre and each one of them you
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said, do you have any traumatic memories?
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Do you have any habits that you want to break?
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Do you have issues sleeping? Do you have any things that
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trigger anxiety? Do you have any phobias?
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Do you have any things you'd like to do but don't feel you
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have the resources to do? Of those 100 people that you
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stop, 100 of them have something that they're dealing with that a
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hypnotherapist can help with. That is a huge market and I and
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I think there is a scarcity mentality.
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There is this idea that there isn't enough clients to go
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around, but I think it's because there is a thought of how many
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people are actually out there right now are looking for a
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hypnotherapist and have actually specified the specific problem.
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I would say most people on anti anxiety medication would be
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receptive to a tool that deals with the cause of the anxiety
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rather than symptom management. So we we need to be looking at
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the Pharmaceutical industry. We need to be looking at what
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people use to distract themselves from uncomfortable
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emotions. Like how many people are on
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social media or binge watching Netflix to deal with their
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emotions. Like the market couldn't be
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bigger, but there's this idea of, well, there's not enough to
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go around. And I think that contributes to
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sometimes the, the sniping and the kind of the ego bashing that
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you see in these kind of groups, because there's more of an
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interest of this kind of element of trying to prove that you're a
25:36
more knowledgeable hypnotist rather than actually helping
25:39
people through hypnotherapy. And that's that's odd to me
25:42
because ego strengthening is one of the things we learn as
25:44
hypnotherapists. Why do you need to put other
25:46
people down to make yourself feel better?
25:48
Why not get your ego from helping people?
25:52
And that might be, you know, as you've done through apps or one
25:55
to one sessions or me through my podcast.
25:57
It's there's so many ways in which we're able to help people,
26:01
but there is this odd cognitive dissonance that you actually see
26:04
in the kind of hypnotherapy kind of community sometimes, which
26:08
it's the opposite of congruency, it's incongruency, which also
26:13
means there's a huge opportunity for hypnotherapists that know
26:17
about hypnotherapy to dramatically increase their
26:20
income, which would be directly proportionate to their impact on
26:25
people in the world. So it's an amazing opportunity.
26:29
What would your advice be or your message be to those people
26:32
that have got qualifications in hypnotherapy, hypnosis and kind
26:37
of that kind of talk based therapy or therapeutic
26:41
modalities and are not currently making the kind of income that
26:45
they would want from that? Wow.
26:49
Yeah, so it's such a rich question.
26:51
So there's so many things that I can unpack about that.
26:56
So number one, I it really starts with getting crystal
27:01
clear on the fact that I want to make a living at this.
27:07
I think a lot of people, they just, you know, they're kind of
27:10
dancing around that what they they, you know, maybe like more
27:16
people than I ever realized actually have a full time job
27:21
and hypnotherapy is something that they kind of do on the
27:24
side. It's their side gig and so they
27:26
haven't really made a decision that this is something that I
27:32
want to do. And part of the reason I think
27:34
why they haven't made that decision is because they just
27:37
automatically believe that it's not something they don't get to
27:41
do what they love and make money.
27:43
And so I always came from this idea that do what you love and
27:48
the money will follow. So that was for me, that was the
27:51
thought process that that I initially assumed.
27:55
The other thing that I think is really important is you know,
27:59
when you look at like all you know, you look at there's, there
28:03
are a number of hypnotherapists out there, you know, and like
28:08
you said, people aren't necessarily even aware that
28:11
they're looking for a hypnotherapist.
28:13
So I would say you need to get really good at figuring out who
28:18
it is out there that you want to help there.
28:22
You know, there's a segment of people out there that are
28:25
dealing with some kind of a problem that maybe you were
28:28
dealing with that sometime and through hypnotherapy you have
28:32
been able to eradicate that if you've been able to deal with
28:36
that. So to me, it's a simple matter
28:40
of finding other people that are exactly like where you were and
28:46
being able to like you have something you're further along
28:50
in that than they were and you're able to, you know, just
28:55
because, and you don't have to be perfect.
28:56
You know, you don't have to be, you know, the only expert or the
29:00
best expert in your field. You just need to be further
29:03
along in that and to and be able to, you know, help them go from
29:09
where they were to where you are now.
29:12
So that is one thing. I I think it's really important
29:16
to like differentiate yourself from all the other.
29:20
And I have no therapist. I mean, look at me for, you
29:22
know, as an example. I mean, IA long time, you know,
29:27
10 years ago I decided, you know, that I am the law of
29:32
attraction hypnotist. Now that for whatever reason
29:36
didn't go over well with a lot of the hypnotist in my
29:38
community, like a lot of hypnotist in the community.
29:41
They're like, oh, that is just like, So what is the word you?
29:48
Know woo woo. I think a lot of people woo.
29:49
Woo BS, you know, they just didn't buy into it.
29:52
And I'm to me personally, I'm thinking, OK, there's either
29:58
they don't understand what law of attraction actually is.
30:01
So the perception of it is different from the reality.
30:04
So I can see how when you think it's this and you think it's
30:08
just wishing and hoping and, you know, hoping the universe is
30:11
just going to come and bestow you with the things you've been
30:14
dreaming about. You know, if you think of it
30:17
like in those terms. And yeah, it's not, you know,
30:20
but you know, so I had to. So it was, it was actually an
30:25
opportunity for me because when I saw that I'm like, Oh well, if
30:30
I can just get hypnotherapist to understand or anybody else to
30:35
understand that it's not like that at all.
30:38
That really it all it is, is just reprogramming your
30:41
subconscious mind with the thing that you want.
30:45
Because whatever you know you have in your reality, it's just
30:49
matching what you have in your subconscious mind.
30:52
If you want to make more money, but you have in in your
30:57
subconscious mind all of the default programming that you
31:01
grew up with up until you were 6-7 years old when all the
31:05
suggestions, they just went in to tell you essentially that
31:10
money is the root of all evils. Money doesn't grow on trees.
31:14
You know, you have to work hard and you have to struggle to make
31:16
money. You can't make money doing what
31:18
you want. Go get a real job.
31:20
You know, like all of the, you're never going to amount to
31:23
anything. Like all of those things are
31:26
still sitting in people's brains and they are running the, you
31:32
know, literally running their businesses, running their bank
31:35
accounts. Our bank accounts are being run
31:39
by these 7 year olds that got stuck at this level and don't
31:44
know anything else. And so we have to be able to
31:51
break that pattern. We have to be able to break
31:54
that, you know, those ideas, these old, outdated ideas in
32:00
order to be able to do and make what you want.
32:03
I mean, I think it's a shame for people to not be able to do what
32:09
what they want and make good money at it.
32:11
And so that's why I have, you know, just really just wanted to
32:16
help people to do that. And, you know, here's the thing.
32:20
I mean, it's not always like up, up, up just because I do what I
32:26
do and I've helped people to breakthrough their own
32:30
financial. I don't want to sit on my high
32:33
horse here and say I've never had it.
32:36
I've never since in the 25 years since I've been a
32:39
hypnotherapist, I've never had financial worries or fears or
32:45
limiting beliefs or doubts or resistance or just overall, you
32:51
know, problems to deal with. Like I think that once you deal
32:56
with your own stuff, you deal with a problem, new ones, you
33:02
know, you have new ones that that take their place.
33:06
And you know, if I wasn't so motivated to succeed, if I
33:12
wasn't really trying to get to a certain place in my life, then I
33:17
would never have, I would never have the problems that I do
33:20
right now. So I think, you know, you solve
33:22
a problem, new ones appear. And so we're always a work in
33:26
progress. You know, I think it's very,
33:30
yeah, it's a very like open way of thinking because I think
33:34
sometimes there is this kind of connotation that if you're
33:36
helping other people that you have to be flawless and perfect.
33:39
And, and, and that's not the reality of, of humans.
33:42
We've always got stuff that we're working on.
33:45
When I've gone to and, and like you, you know, I, I go to lots
33:48
of, of conferences and one of the things that I've overheard,
33:51
which gives me an insight into perhaps a limiting belief system
33:55
about hypnotherapists. I've literally heard people say,
34:00
you know, it's a really fulfilling thing to do.
34:04
It's just a shame that there's no money to be made.
34:07
And I remember thinking, well, I'm making money, you know, but
34:12
but again, I'm also aware that when someone has a belief
34:15
system, if I was to say, you know, I'm making six figures in
34:18
hypnosis, it would either be not believed or given a narrative
34:24
that makes me the exception to the rule rather than it being
34:27
possible for everyone. So but you've got a popular
34:29
podcast. That's how you do it.
34:31
Whereas I think I would still be making that money if I didn't
34:34
have a popular podcast and have something else, because my
34:37
belief system is the like you, there's a huge amount of
34:40
abundance. I think there's another
34:43
connotation as well that I've seen, which is somehow if you
34:48
really work on the business side, So the kind of stuff that
34:52
Jason Lynette talks about like funnels and kind of the
34:54
marketing side. I think for a lot of
34:57
hypnotherapists, they see that as a bit of a dirty kind of icky
35:00
kind of side of the business that actually if it's almost
35:05
like has connotations of greed or manipulation rather than my
35:10
belief system, which is the better you market yourself, the
35:14
more able you are to facilitate help for those people that that
35:17
need it. And I'm just curious, what's the
35:21
key blocks or belief systems? I think one of them relates to
35:26
kind of worthiness or kind of ability, but what's the kind of
35:30
the insidious ones that might be there inside the subconscious of
35:34
therapists that really are getting in the way if they're
35:37
making a decent living from this?
35:39
Well, I think you hit the nail on the head.
35:41
One of them is the worthiness, but the other, like you said,
35:45
with with regard to being visible, putting yourself out
35:50
there, a lot of, there's a lot of responsibility that you take
35:54
on when you decide that you're going to put yourself out there
35:58
and you know, become more visible.
36:01
I think there's just the old overall, that whole connotation
36:08
that sales is sleazy. And if there's one thing that I
36:13
could and okay, so sales is sleazy.
36:16
And the other thing that comes up so much is the imposter
36:21
syndrome. So the imposter syndrome
36:25
basically looks like, you know, I don't have my life completely
36:29
working exactly the way that I want it.
36:32
So I don't feel like qualified to help somebody else.
36:37
And I think at the end of the day, so much of it really has to
36:41
do. It's the quality that it's the
36:43
feeling not qualified. It's a feeling of not worthy.
36:49
It's the feeling of like, you know, just the confidence to put
36:54
yourself out there, like somebody's going to reject you,
36:57
that fear of rejection. And The thing is, is that when
37:03
it's just kind of an interesting thing, because when you're not
37:06
putting yourself out there and you're not asking for what you
37:11
want, you're not asking people to do business with you, you're
37:14
not asking for that sale, you are getting rejected.
37:18
You're, you're getting rejected by the person who actually makes
37:23
the most, the most important person in your whole sphere.
37:29
And that's you. You're rejecting yourself before
37:32
you even allow anybody to reject you.
37:37
So it is, it's the, it's that, that worthiness, it's the lack
37:41
of belief that they can do this. And another part of it is just
37:49
like, like you said, they see something like, oh, you know,
37:52
these business systems, it's so confusing.
37:55
I don't even know how to do that.
37:57
So they'll just allow themselves to just think that, you know,
38:04
that's, that's not for me. And that's just, that's not who
38:08
I am. I'm not like that.
38:10
I, I'm not a salesperson. Well, I will tell you and I,
38:15
there was a book that I recently read by Grant Cardone and it's
38:20
called Sell or be sold. And at the end of the day, so he
38:26
talks about in there that we're always selling.
38:31
We just don't realize like every, you're selling yourself
38:34
on the idea that sales is sleazy.
38:37
Like you're, you've actually sold yourself on that.
38:41
And, but every, every single interaction that you have, like
38:46
I'm selling you right now on what I believe is the number one
38:52
thing that's holding hypnotist back from making their whatever,
38:56
you know, 10K months or, and beyond.
38:59
And the number one thing I believe is, you know, these,
39:03
these limiting beliefs, the, the, the subconscious blocks,
39:06
the blocks, you know, that say I'm not good enough.
39:11
I don't have, I'm not intelligent enough.
39:14
I don't have what it takes. I'm not salesy.
39:17
I don't want to put myself out there.
39:19
I don't have the confidence. People like me don't make this
39:22
kind of money. We didn't grow up making this
39:25
kind of money. I, I don't, I don't even believe
39:28
it's possible, you know, for, for people to make that money,
39:31
you've got to be special. You've got to be in the 1% in
39:34
order to make that kind of money.
39:36
Like all of these, I mean, it's not just one.
39:38
I mean, I could just like literally just, you know, list
39:42
them out over this entire show. Where was I going with that?
39:47
It got a little excited. So oh, everything is a sale at
39:51
the end of the day, Everything is a sale and and the person
39:55
that you need to sell the most is yourself.
39:58
But you're selling. If you have kids, you're selling
40:00
your kids every day on If you got to get up, you got to make
40:04
your bed, you got to take out the trash, you got to do your
40:06
chores, you're selling your boss, or you know that where.
40:11
However, you're selling somebody on getting that job.
40:14
If you have a job, if you're selling your clients, you're
40:17
selling your spouse to do whatever it is that you want
40:23
them to do. I mean, it is the, I learned
40:28
from this book. This is the single most
40:32
important skill that you can ever acquire.
40:35
And and yet, you know, people just get stuck on thinking that
40:40
they don't have what it takes to sell, but they've just got it
40:44
backwards because you are literally selling yourself on
40:47
that idea already. So all you have to do is just
40:50
sell yourself on another idea. Selling is hypnosis too.
40:54
I mean as you know. It totally is.
40:57
And, and I think there's a connotation that sales is
40:59
manipulation rather than influence, which I think is a
41:03
much better frame. And my my first career was
41:07
selling radio advertising. And the thing that helped me, I
41:10
read lots of books on sales, but there was a book that Richard
41:14
Bandler and John Laval wrote called Persuasion Engineering.
41:17
And it was all these NLP principles designed to actually
41:21
kind of sell. And it was like, oh, I get to
41:24
collect, get good at kind of communication and kind of
41:27
elicitation and influence and get paid to do it.
41:31
And what I found is that when I became a therapist, my
41:33
background in, in sales helped me sell the client on a new
41:38
belief system and how that new belief system was more
41:40
empowering for them than the previous belief system that they
41:43
had. And, and you're right, sales
41:46
does overlap massively with the actual therapy that you do with
41:49
the client. So I think it's it's it's great
41:52
for any therapist that aren't making the money to kind of
41:54
change a belief system about what selling is and and why it's
41:58
useful because they're going to make more more money.
42:01
You've created a community on school specifically to help
42:06
hypnotherapist increase their income.
42:08
What are some of the frameworks or structures that you've
42:11
created to help Hypnotherapist do that?
42:14
Yeah, and it's actually beyond hypnotherapist.
42:17
So there's actually many different types of people.
42:20
There's I literally, I have bookkeepers, I have authors, I
42:25
have artists, you know, so any, anybody that kind of falls into
42:30
maybe like might like an entrepreneur, spiritual
42:33
entrepreneur category. So I, it's a really intensive
42:38
course, I won't lie, to really develop the identity of somebody
42:45
who earns $10,000 a month. And we start off and it's, you
42:51
know, over the, the first week even is just identity
42:55
activation. So one of the things that I do
42:59
in that very, very first week is I just get them right over the
43:05
whole idea that it's hard to make this kind of money or that
43:10
it's impossible to make this kind of money.
43:12
And I literally have them do a little bit of research.
43:17
I mean, so I, this is not just the subconscious, most of its
43:22
subconscious, but that first week there is a little bit of
43:25
math. I won't, I won't lie, there is a
43:27
little bit of math because I want people to, I've, I'm
43:30
setting them up in that very, very first week to just know
43:35
that it's possible and know how it works.
43:39
So we do a little identity activation.
43:42
We get them aligned with that person.
43:46
That makes, you know the 10K months.
43:50
We take the old version of you and we turn that old version
43:55
into the new version of you. We do a blueprint activation.
44:01
So you literally describe this person that you've become and
44:07
just the whole life that you that you lead and what your what
44:10
your days are like. So we do our 10K blueprint
44:13
activation. Then we work on the the thinking
44:17
because so many, you know, thoughts are going to come
44:20
through that like you know, that are going to try to sabotage.
44:25
And so we, we literally go through and just eradicate all
44:29
of the thoughts that are working in opposition.
44:32
We do belief installation, we do vibration, you know, high
44:38
vibration business. We do emotional money detox.
44:41
This is probably one of the most powerful weeks.
44:46
They do have to get to Week 6, you know, to get to that.
44:50
But it is one of the most powerful sessions because so
44:55
many people are carrying residual emotions that are
45:02
literally blocking their ability from attracting more money.
45:08
I have been there myself. I was not too long ago dealing
45:13
with some serious frustration, serious resentment, you know,
45:21
resentment and resentment. It does so much damage to your
45:27
ability to attract the things into your life that you want.
45:32
So we clear that. We do a huge whole forgiveness
45:37
week on that, and people come out of that just clear focus.
45:44
We work on every single thing. One of the things that came up
45:47
after the focus week became the confidence week.
45:53
The confidence week was just about asking for what you want.
45:57
There's so much resistance to just putting yourself out there
46:02
to ask for what you want. You know, again, because people
46:07
are embarrassed, they're, you know, they, they still feel like
46:11
the, the imposter, they aren't really clear on what to ask for.
46:17
This is another thing that we just, you know, we help with, we
46:22
help people to raise their prices.
46:25
Because that's another thing. I mean, I literally had people,
46:29
I don't know what you charge, but I mean literally had people
46:32
in my program charging less than $100 per session.
46:38
And it's like how you're just not going to be able to make a
46:41
living doing that. And why should you charge any
46:45
less than, I mean, unless you're just very, very first just
46:49
trying to trying to, you know, get a first few little
46:52
testimonial clients. But why should you charge any
46:56
less than what if you've been doing this for a few years than
47:00
what somebody else is charging? There's literally no reason.
47:03
And so we get people to feel more confident about what it is
47:08
that they do and what they can ask for.
47:10
We work on nervous system regulation.
47:13
This is something that you know, people, once you start to get,
47:22
once you start to get into those higher levels of making more
47:27
money or spending more money or anything like that, your nervous
47:32
system has to adapt to that new level.
47:36
Otherwise, it's like this is dramatic change can literally
47:41
sabotage everything that you've been doing because of the fact
47:45
that, you know, that change like sends a shock through your whole
47:51
system. And so a lot of people just can
47:55
not, they don't have the capacity to earn more.
47:58
So we have to do the nervous system regulation.
48:03
So. Yeah.
48:04
And where did the ideas come from?
48:06
Where do, where do ideas come from for how to, you know, how
48:12
to make more money? You know, we teach people how to
48:16
get in touch with their intuition.
48:19
And we teach people how to, you know, the thing that this is the
48:27
kind of where the woo part comes.
48:29
I've been hesitant on saying it, but we teach people how to
48:32
access what's called the Super conscious level of mind.
48:37
And the Super conscious is just where, you know, it comes
48:42
through your subconscious and you connect to sort of like
48:47
what's out there. And it's like, where do these
48:50
ideas come from? They come from other people's
48:54
thinking. I do believe we're all
48:56
connected. At the end of the day, we're all
48:58
connected. All of our thoughts are
48:59
connected. So it's not just this one guy,
49:03
Elon Musk, you know, who has all the great ideas.
49:06
You can literally tap into his brain and get the same kind of
49:10
ideas to come to you. So I teach people how to how to
49:13
connect to that energy and how to do that, how to detach.
49:18
That's the other thing too, is so much of this is about like
49:21
letting go of the, you know, the hows and the winds and, and all
49:27
of that. So it's a lot of, it's a lot of
49:31
subconscious, just constant reprogramming.
49:34
And that's, you know, and through this process, it's
49:40
really been pretty transformational for, for
49:44
people. I mean, I launched the 10K
49:48
challenge in December, December 1st, I launched it where do we
49:53
were March 10th. We're just about halfway through
49:56
this program and every it's Evergreen.
49:58
So we have literally people starting every week, they absorb
50:03
this, the same content that I created 15 weeks ago.
50:07
They're also welcome to attend the live events that we do while
50:12
I'm training on the future weeks that they would be having access
50:17
to. But in that time, I, it has
50:21
surprised even me. We've literally had people go
50:25
from Anna was making $2000 a month in the month of.
50:32
I mean when she filled out her 10K paperwork she was making
50:36
$2000 a month. And in December she had her
50:42
first $8000 month. January she did 10,000, February
50:46
she did 10,000. Why was that?
50:50
It was just because we rearranged her thinking we
50:54
rearranged, you know, gave her the math to figure out like how
50:58
to actually make this happen. It's just, it's just math.
51:04
It's like if you want to lose weight.
51:06
I think it's also being around other people that are also doing
51:10
it and in that state of mind. This might sound like a weird
51:12
anecdote, but I think it taps into what you're talking about
51:15
there. I've only, I've only scored more
51:18
than 200 in bowling once. And it was when I was visiting
51:21
my family in in Florida and we went to a bowling alley on
51:26
something like Sleepy Tuesday and it's filled with pensioners.
51:29
And these pensioners were amazing at bowling and they're
51:31
getting strike after strike. And I'm just surrounded by
51:34
people much older than me getting all these strikes.
51:37
And then it was just like magic. I was just getting strike after
51:40
strike. And I've only ever done that.
51:41
And I think it's because there was irrefutable evidence that it
51:44
was possible. And I was thinking of other
51:47
people that are doing it, why can't I?
51:49
And I've never been able to quite recapture that.
51:52
But it was, it was kind of like weird for me that why can't I do
51:56
it then? And I think it was because of
51:59
there was so much belief in that room at that time that, OK, I'm
52:02
going to get a strike on the next thing.
52:03
And it just happened that way. And it was a strange thing.
52:06
And I love what you're saying about resentment because when I
52:10
was a new therapist and I was trying to figure out what do I
52:14
price my sessions at, I reverse engineered it.
52:18
And rather than saying what can I get away with or what will
52:21
people be willing to pay, I said what would I need to price it
52:25
at? So I have absolutely 0
52:27
resentment from allocating my time.
52:30
I'm not missing spending time with my kids.
52:32
I'm not missing time doing anything else.
52:34
You know, I don't, I don't care that I missed that work out that
52:37
day. I would want to be doing that.
52:40
And when you price it in accordance to that, it means
52:43
that whenever you get a client, the emotion that comes up isn't,
52:47
I'd rather be doing this. It's kind of like, no, I get to
52:49
do this. And there's a whole different
52:51
kind of energy attached. So everything you say there, I'm
52:54
like nodding my head thinking like this is absolute gold for
52:57
people that want to increase their, their income.
53:02
Give us the, the website that if people want to kind of learn
53:05
more about the school and the, the courses that you've created
53:10
where they can go to, to, to find out more.
53:13
And I'll make sure there's a link to this in the in the show
53:15
notes as well. Yeah, so we created a special
53:19
link for this particular podcast and so that link is
53:25
hypnotist10k.com and that'll direct you right to the about
53:33
page where you can literally just get in to this.
53:39
So I have multiple levels of my community.
53:44
You can literally start the whole process for just $9.
53:50
It is we start off with the seven day faster manifestation
53:56
challenge and that just seven days, seven blocks we go
54:02
through, you know, each of the most common blocks.
54:06
And I'm telling you, I mean, when people go through like the
54:10
the first day, even they're like, wow, I, I had no idea how
54:16
unclear I was. And a lot of people like they
54:19
think they're clear, but this gives them a whole and then it
54:24
gives them permission to want what they want.
54:27
That's the main thing most people like they, they think
54:32
that they're cheating themselves out of having what they really,
54:35
really want because there's just part of them.
54:37
It just hasn't bought into the idea that they can really have
54:41
what they want. And so I, in that very first
54:45
day, I give people permission just to want what they want.
54:49
So they start there and then they can move up to, you know,
54:54
over some time they can move up to the $10,000 immense
54:57
challenge. And, you know, and like you
55:00
said, it's the community that when you see, you know, we
55:05
literally have a section called money wins.
55:07
And we have other kinds of wins too.
55:10
We have the reflections. And these are, you know, just
55:13
other kind of lifestyle wins things just feeling better,
55:16
feeling happier, having better relationships with your kids,
55:19
you know, all the other things. So we have a specific section
55:22
for when people post the money wins and when they see that.
55:26
And like, there's like, I don't know, I mean, there's several of
55:30
them every day that that come, you know, oh, I just got a
55:35
another client, $4100 client, $2000 client, you know, this,
55:40
you know, they're, they're seeing that and they're like,
55:42
well, I guess if she can do it, then I can do it.
55:46
And so it's, it makes it much, much more believable.
55:51
And it's like just one other thing that I'll equate that to
55:55
is like when Richard Bannister, you know, you are familiar with
56:00
the Richard Bannister story. Just a. 4 minute mile.
56:03
Yeah, you know, I mean it. I, I think it's very similar to
56:08
that where essentially, you know, there was a time before
56:12
the four minute mile where nobody believed you could do it
56:15
and this guy just set out to do it and he did the four minute
56:19
mile. Richard Bannister.
56:20
And once he did that, I mean, he, that was, he was at full
56:25
capacity. Like he literally passed out.
56:27
I think he almost died. I don't think he died, but he
56:30
almost he passed out, had to get taken to the emergency room, all
56:34
of that because it was just no one did this.
56:37
And you know, that's how powerful the mind is that it can
56:41
literally limit you to the point where something that today we do
56:47
many, many people do this today and they don't die.
56:50
They don't almost die. They don't end up going to the
56:53
emergency room. So after he did the four minute
56:58
mile, I mean like within the next year, even high schoolers
57:03
were doing this. It was just a normal thing that
57:07
many people started doing. And that's how how we are doing
57:13
the money thing in in our community.
57:15
We're normalizing the conversation about money.
57:19
We're normalizing that it's OK to earn this much money and that
57:25
it's possible to earn this much money.
57:27
And you get to see people actually doing it.
57:29
And there's a whole path and a system that allows you to do it
57:33
too. All you have to do is just
57:35
follow the path and you can get there as well.
57:39
Perfect, Victoria. This has been an amazing
57:41
conversation. Unfortunately we don't have time
57:42
to, to hear the guided experience for the 10K month
57:46
hypnosis. So you can have to come back
57:47
another time and we'll, we'll do that, but give us that, that
57:51
link the URL again just for anyone listening to and it may
57:56
be in hypnotherapy, but maybe you just want to kind of
57:58
manifest or attract a higher income and a different kind of
58:01
career gives that website address again.
58:04
Yeah, so it's Hypnotist, just like your podcast
58:07
hypnotist10k.com. Excellent.
58:12
And click in the show notes because you're going to have
58:15
that link, the link to Victoria's previous episode that
58:19
she was on the show. And there'll be a few resources
58:22
as well that I'm going to have on there as well.
58:24
Victoria, it's been an absolute pleasure to have you on the
58:26
show. And I'm I'm already thinking
58:28
bigger just from this conversation.
58:29
I need to, I need to double my income directly from this
58:32
conversation. So thank you so much.
58:34
Any final words that you wanted to leave us with?
58:37
You know, I just always like to end on, you know, if you can
58:41
believe, if you can have an idea that you are meant for more, if
58:45
there's even the smallest little idea in your mind that you're
58:49
meant for more than you know, just allow yourself to, you
58:53
know, do the work that is going to help you to believe in that.
58:58
Because once you believe that that is possible, then anything
59:03
is possible. And so I just encourage all of
59:06
you to, you know, let yourself dream big and let yourself
59:11
believe in it and let yourself live the life that was meant for
59:15
you. What a lovely way to end the
59:18
show. So, Victoria, thank you so much
59:20
again. And to all of you listening,
59:23
take care and we'll see you very, very soon.
59:26
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59:30
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59:33
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