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Trekcast 447: Star Trek Nemesis, New Trek Movie in the Works, Edgar Write Star Trek? · Star Trek Podcast: Trekcast

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  Speaker 1: The Galaxy's most unpredictable Star Trek podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Live from studios in Idaho and Michigan.
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  Speaker 3: This is Trek Cast, the Galaxy's most unpredictable Star Trek podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Today on the show, we are going to cover Star
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  Speaker 3: Trek ten, Star Trek Nemesis. Plus we've got Star Trek
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  Speaker 3: News and your listener feedback, and now the Heart of
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  Speaker 3: the Ghostbusters.
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  Speaker 2: It's Daniel Reyes.
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  Speaker 4: What does that make me the slammer?
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  Speaker 2: Isn't he the heart of the Ghostbusters?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know which one that is the.
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  Speaker 2: Heart of the Ghostbusters. I think is Ray.
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  Speaker 4: Oh okay, that's what that's Oh that means that, like Beverly,
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  Speaker 4: I get it on with the ghost I mean, I've
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  Speaker 4: been ghosted a few times. I guess.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have your plasma based candle?
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  Speaker 4: I cannot confirm nor deny.
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  Speaker 2: Is that how you?
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  Speaker 4: That's right, that's where it goes. That's right. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I don't quite have the j l H. When I
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  Speaker 4: got the girls, does candle or whatever?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that that'd be a wicked burn to like a
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  Speaker 3: Star Trek fan be like, oh, yeah, well you get
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  Speaker 3: your dates through a candle?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? O explain that you see in this one episode
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  Speaker 4: to start.
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  Speaker 2: One of the greatest episodes of t G.
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  Speaker 4: That's right, that's right. Oh man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you were a Star Trek fan, man, that
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  Speaker 2: you'd be really befurned right now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, God, you should be devastated now right. Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Man, that was your week?
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  Speaker 4: All right? That was yours.
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  Speaker 2: Great. Just came back from the Grand Rapids Comic Con yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: How'd that go?
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  Speaker 2: It was? It was, It was a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, every just about every Star Trek guests canceled, so
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  Speaker 3: really yeah, Alice Green canceled, Malcom McDonald canceled.
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  Speaker 2: Uh. They did have the guy that was in the
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  Speaker 2: Gorn suit from the original series everywhere. Yep.
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  Speaker 3: I did not meet him. I was like, I looked
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  Speaker 3: over his booths. I'm like, yeah, no, I no desire.
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  Speaker 2: Uh. And then I did go to Peter Weller's panel.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, So yeah, he he.
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  Speaker 3: Was Paxton in the season four story arc of Enterprise.
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  Speaker 4: And in the movie he was Yeah, he was.
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  Speaker 2: Also Admiral marcus In in Star Trek in the Darkness.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was a it was a it was
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  Speaker 3: a robocot panel. It was called Coming with Me with
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  Speaker 3: Peter Weller. Yeah, and uh, Peter Weller has a PhD
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  Speaker 3: in like art.
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  Speaker 4: History, Okay, yeah, something like that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so you know the panel started off, he
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  Speaker 3: just took the mic, stood up and never sat down
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  Speaker 3: and never stopped talking. Yeah, you just and and I
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  Speaker 3: think RoboCop was mentioned twice. Okay, that's like he wanted
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  Speaker 3: everything to be related to He started talking about Detroit
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  Speaker 3: and he's like, yeah, let's talk about Detroit as it
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  Speaker 3: relates to RoboCop. And then he's like, you know what else?
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  Speaker 3: You know, Detroit used to be bad and now it's good,
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  Speaker 3: and you know what else was kind of like that,
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  Speaker 3: and he started going over. He started talking about like
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  Speaker 3: the Roman Empire and Alexander the Great started talking about
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  Speaker 3: doctor and stuff right right, And that's all he talked about.
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  Speaker 2: For the entire thing. And I leaned over to Desiree
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  Speaker 2: and I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Like, this guy has ADHD and he's a little crazy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so he just went off on a tangent. Uh, just
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  Speaker 3: back and forth. He talked about a few movies, not RoboCop. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: Star Trek wasn't mentioned once.
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  Speaker 2: At one point, Like they have the mic where you.
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  Speaker 3: Go up and you take questions and usually the moderator says, okay,
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  Speaker 3: it's time for questions.
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  Speaker 2: You know, let's let's do the mic thing. The moderator
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  Speaker 2: couldn't get two words in edgewise.
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  Speaker 3: Peter Weller was like, all right, let's take some questions
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  Speaker 3: you over there, blah blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 2: And at one point I was I kind of raised
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  Speaker 2: my hand. I was gonna ask him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to ask him, you know, you
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  Speaker 3: were in Star Trek Enterprise, were you surprised that they
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  Speaker 3: called you for Star Trek again twelve years later? And
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  Speaker 3: he was going off. Finally I just put my hand down.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I don't I don't want to engage, man.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it was it was an interesting panel. Everybody
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  Speaker 3: walked out going wow, that was interesting.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I think if I was there, I know
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  Speaker 4: that he's obsessed with coffee. Oh just I posted that
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  Speaker 4: video in our group that he's got to do on
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  Speaker 4: YouTube and he's like, we'll not shut up about coffee.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: I would ask him something about that, just to get him.
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  Speaker 2: What kind of coffee do you like?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, when you go to Starbucks, what do you order? Sir?
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  Speaker 3: Just The panel went over fifteen minutes and the moderator
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  Speaker 3: was just standing there going.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, so you got to hit my Hurricane Weller
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  Speaker 4: is what it sounds like.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I got some board to talk about, but we'll
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  Speaker 2: get into that later. Nice.
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  Speaker 4: Nice, Okay, Well, yeah, I did not have an incident
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  Speaker 4: with a Hurricane Weller or any other any other celebrities,
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  Speaker 4: but you know I do got the news. So let's
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  Speaker 4: let's get started with Let's.
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  Speaker 2: Dive right in Star Tuck news.
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  Speaker 4: All right, so our first news story comes to us
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  Speaker 4: today from Variety, and this is the big thing making
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  Speaker 4: the round, so let's talk about it. We have a
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  Speaker 4: new Star Trek movie in the works. Officially, this is
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  Speaker 4: going to be done by the duo behind the Dungeons
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  Speaker 4: and Dragons film, Jonathan Goldstein and John Francis Daily. You
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  Speaker 4: may also know them as the screenwriters for Spider Man Homecoming. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: so they've done some pretty notable things, right, They will
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  Speaker 4: be doing the next Star Trek movie. We know nothing
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  Speaker 4: about this. We don't know when it's set in the timeline.
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  Speaker 4: We do know that it will be completely unattached from
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  Speaker 4: anything before, so no movie. Yeah, yeah, completely starting over.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, there are rumors that this will be
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  Speaker 4: telling the set the beginning of Starfleet, how it got started.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if that's true. We we don't know.
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  Speaker 4: We don't know anything about this thing officially, so but
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  Speaker 4: you know, I think they're a good team to get started,
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  Speaker 4: that they've done good stuff.
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  Speaker 3: So what that's telling me when they say it's going
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  Speaker 3: to be completely rebranded or redifferent or whatever it's gonna be,
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  Speaker 3: what that tells me is they have not just unshackled
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  Speaker 3: themselves from Cannon, they have taken Cannon and blown it up.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I know there are a lot of podcasts and
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  Speaker 4: and meme groups and all this stuff right now, kind
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  Speaker 4: of reading too much into this. I know there's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of like celebrating the end of Kurtzman because if
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  Speaker 4: they don't want to attach to him, then then that's
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  Speaker 4: a sign that he's done for that's good. I can
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  Speaker 4: I can see that argument. But you know, when you're
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  Speaker 4: when you're trying to relaunch a franchise into films, your
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  Speaker 4: best bet is to wipe it clean to allow new
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  Speaker 4: audiences to come in. Right, you don't have to tell them, hey,
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  Speaker 4: you need to watch all these things to understand what
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  Speaker 4: the hell is going on. So whether or not they're
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  Speaker 4: getting rid of Kurtzman. I would if I had to
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  Speaker 4: put money on it, I'm gonna guess that they're gonna
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  Speaker 4: get rid of them. But but as it sits right now,
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  Speaker 4: it's probably just that they want to build a film
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  Speaker 4: franchise and so they want to start fresh, and that's
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  Speaker 4: all that we know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, getting rid of Kurtzman. I sort of took the
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  Speaker 3: pulse about Kurtzman.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, start trek inter national panel and uh,
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  Speaker 2: based on the cheers that I got when I said
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  Speaker 2: basically said the comment they need to get rid of
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  Speaker 2: Kurtzman and they need to let Terry Metallis and Jonathan
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  Speaker 2: Frakes take over the franchise.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody agrees that Kurtzman needs to go. And yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know.
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  Speaker 2: If it's these two guys that.
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  Speaker 4: I mean when we would to trek Long Island or
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  Speaker 4: Long Island, I don't know how you're supposed to say
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  Speaker 4: that or whatever. But when Dan and I went, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we went to a panel where you know, because that
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  Speaker 4: night it was the end of Discovery, it was the
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  Speaker 4: last episode and then they were going to have like
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  Speaker 4: a reaction and they had like a if you were
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  Speaker 4: a part of a podcast you could send a member
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  Speaker 4: up there and go talk about it. So I went
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  Speaker 4: up and I was amazed how many of these podcasts
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  Speaker 4: were also like, yeah, it's not that great, or or
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  Speaker 4: they found one or two things to like about it,
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  Speaker 4: maybe a character, but that's all they really liked about it,
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  Speaker 4: you know.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, yeah, there were some great characters in industry.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would like to have seen more of, right,
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  Speaker 2: for sure, there was.
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  Speaker 3: Some there were some great storylines that they hinted at
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  Speaker 3: that I would have liked to have seen more of.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but.
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  Speaker 3: You know it's sort of like, you know, we say
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  Speaker 3: in Strange New Worlds, we want them to go see
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  Speaker 3: strange New worlds and discovery. They didn't discover anything.
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  Speaker 4: Right, right, So yeah, yeah, yeah, So that's that's the
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  Speaker 4: thing about it. Like that's why I think he's probably
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  Speaker 4: not long for Star Trek. I know, his contract is
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  Speaker 4: supposed to be up next year, so and we haven't
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  Speaker 4: heard of any renewals. So I'll see.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever I'm you know, don't let the door hit you
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  Speaker 2: on the way out.
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  Speaker 4: So wild Bill says, but isn't connecting episodes and movies
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  Speaker 4: a big part of our fandom? So it is I
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  Speaker 4: don't deny that, but you know, the show's been going on,
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  Speaker 4: what sixty years, seventy years something like that. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's a lot of history. If you're just getting into it, right,
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  Speaker 4: it's overwhelming, So you kind of need to refresh for
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  Speaker 4: people at some point, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, But you know, I've had I've had non Star
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  Speaker 3: Trek friends, watch Star Trek, First Contact, watch Star Trek,
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  Speaker 3: The Undiscovered Country. Yea, watch with the Whales Without Everything,
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  Speaker 3: seen an episode of Star Trek, and they enjoyed those movies.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so well, I guess maybe we should ask.
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  Speaker 2: The I agree with wild Bill.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, do you do you want a complete reboot? Or
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  Speaker 4: do you want them to try to cobble something together
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  Speaker 4: and and continue on in the prime timeline?
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  Speaker 3: Let us know, I mean, everybody knows what everybody's been
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  Speaker 3: asking for. There's no reason why they can't bring on
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  Speaker 3: some and I hate to use this word, but I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to use it legacy characters, right, you know, something
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  Speaker 3: that mentions the past. Look at Star Wars. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 3: that's the other franchise we always compare it to.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I'm actually okay with a complete reboot.
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  Speaker 4: I really am so Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Now when you say reboot, what what what's your definition
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  Speaker 3: of reboot? I mean, do you do you want to
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  Speaker 3: see something that is that Let's.
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  Speaker 4: Just go a completely fresh, whole new timeline. Let's do that.
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  Speaker 4: The The other thing, too, is, you know, Star Trek
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  Speaker 4: has a long and proud tradition of using the same
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  Speaker 4: actor in completely different roles. So that's not to say
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  Speaker 4: you couldn't get you know, a Chris Pine to return
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  Speaker 4: or a Nanson mount to return or a Zolais Sealbana
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  Speaker 4: or you know, somebody to play a different role.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Right, so you'd be okay, completely okay with like
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  Speaker 3: the adventures of the USS Endeavor and you know, outer
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  Speaker 3: Space the probably the last frontier. These are the cruises
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  Speaker 3: of the spaceship Endeavor.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I promise you whatever we're getting, it's going to
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  Speaker 4: be the Enterprise, and it'll be a whole new crew
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  Speaker 4: in the Enterprise.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if it'll be a new Spot and
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  Speaker 4: a new Kirk and all that, but it might be
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  Speaker 4: you know, the Enterprise B.
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  Speaker 2: Or something that I know JJ did that and it
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  Speaker 2: was successful and then fizzled out.
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  Speaker 4: Right, So right, what would be the what would be the.
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  Speaker 3: Biggest Okay, let's stop thinking like Star Trek fans. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and let's start thinking like executives just for a moment.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, then I'll tell you what it is.
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  Speaker 2: What would be the biggest commercial success.
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  Speaker 4: If you're okay, If I'm thinking like an executive, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to completely restart this franchise, I'm gonna do
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  Speaker 4: the beginning to star Fleet for the first movie, how
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  Speaker 4: it got started, right. Then I would do for the
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  Speaker 4: second film, I would do like the first, like the Federation,
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  Speaker 4: the first five years in like one movie. And how
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  Speaker 4: how do you cobble together this alliance? How do you
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  Speaker 4: keep people happy? How do you make that going right?
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  Speaker 4: And then your third film would be The Klingon War,
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  Speaker 4: And I would bring on the Klingons like I would
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  Speaker 4: tease them in the second film, and then bring them
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  Speaker 4: for the third film. And that's the end of your movie.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, I I think wild Bill has another
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  Speaker 3: good idea. Yeah, yeah, sure, with an occasional visit from
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  Speaker 3: legacy characters. So he doesn't want a complete revamp. I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to compmplete revamp, you know. If they want
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  Speaker 3: to do the USS, I don't care what I already
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  Speaker 3: set the universe that I already know and love, and
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  Speaker 3: then you know.
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  Speaker 2: Go back. They can go back to the same formula. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know, or or they can I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I I my my gut is telling me I don't
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  Speaker 3: want to see a complete revamp. Yeah, my gut is
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  Speaker 3: telling me I want I don't necessarily need legacy characters,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, set it in the universe we all
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  Speaker 3: know and love and and continue on the story from there.
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  Speaker 2: Don't jump around.
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  Speaker 4: It's not that I want to see a complete reboot.
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  Speaker 4: I just I'm okay with it. And it sounds like
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  Speaker 4: you're more hesitant about.
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  Speaker 2: It, right right, Yeah, I am very hesitant about it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because I think if you do a complete reboot.
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  Speaker 3: Number one, you might alienate non Star Trek fans because
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  Speaker 3: they're like, this is Star Trek.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't known Star Trek.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to jump into it, And you might
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  Speaker 3: alienate current fans because they're like, well, this is Star Trek,
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  Speaker 3: but they're not. It's it's a complete redo. They've already
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  Speaker 3: done that, it's done. It's not going to have any
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  Speaker 3: of the characters that I like. Okay, I'm out to.
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  Speaker 2: A success would be a legacy movie.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that I see. I think you're thinking more as
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  Speaker 4: a fan and not for general audiences. You know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but when they make you know, let's use Star
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  Speaker 3: Wars as another example again. You know, they they bring
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  Speaker 3: back these fan favorite characters. They bring back Bubble Fat,
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  Speaker 3: they bring back you know, when when the Mandalorian first
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  Speaker 3: came out, you know, people looked at what the Mandalorian
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  Speaker 3: was like, and they non Star Wars fans looked at
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  Speaker 3: the Mandalorian thought, oh, the bounty hunter, and then they
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  Speaker 3: saw the pictures of Grogu and they're like, oh, baby Yoda.
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  Speaker 3: Even non Star Wars fans saw that, and that's what
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  Speaker 3: brought him in.
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  Speaker 2: You know. Even the commercial success of the Rogue One
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  Speaker 2: spin off.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it was based off of one of the
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  Speaker 3: most successful movies, which was Rogue One, you know, right,
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  Speaker 3: and or you know, it's all based on things that
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  Speaker 3: we knew and loved and and sort of you know,
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  Speaker 3: playing fan service to that, right. You know what if
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  Speaker 3: Star Wars came out with something completely different that had
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  Speaker 3: nothing to do with established cannon, yeah, it'd be a disaster.
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  Speaker 4: But okay, I so, I think part of the problem
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  Speaker 4: is executives have longed for a long time now seen
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  Speaker 4: Star Trek as this potentially multi billion dollar franchise, and
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  Speaker 4: it's just not That's not what it was set to be, right.
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  Speaker 4: They want it to be laser guns and in space, right,
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  Speaker 4: like a.
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  Speaker 2: One hundred million dollar franchise.
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  Speaker 4: Right, right, that's what it is, right, Yeah. But really,
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  Speaker 4: Star Trek at its heart is drama, is ethical dilemmas.
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  Speaker 4: It's things like that, right, which is not your big
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  Speaker 4: budget space space opera. So they're trying to you know,
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  Speaker 4: they're trying to make Fetch happen, and Fetch is not
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  Speaker 4: happening those abusing mean girls.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, and I get that, and you know, and
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  Speaker 3: I understand that I'm coming to it from sort of
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  Speaker 3: a layman, you know, you sort of have a background
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  Speaker 3: in writing, and yeah, and I'm more of a you know,
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  Speaker 3: a baby looking at shiny car keys, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So I I know I'm coming from it coming no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: you know again, that's what it is, right right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, and I don't know which one of us is
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  Speaker 2: is speaking for.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know which is for speaking for ourselves here,
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  Speaker 4: but you know what, this is a great transition to
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  Speaker 4: the next story, because uh, there was an article in Yahoo.
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  Speaker 4: So let me pull this up. And the writer of
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  Speaker 4: this article has made a suggestion of who should take
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  Speaker 4: over Star Trek. And honestly, this guy was not on
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  Speaker 4: my radar, but when I read this article, I can
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  Speaker 4: kind of see it, so I wanted to bring it
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  Speaker 4: on the show. Let's talk about it. So, according to
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: this article, only one man can can hire, can be
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: hired to save Star Trek already, and he's already been
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: hired by paramounts. And this article goes on to say,
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Edgar Wright. Do you know who Edgar Wright is? Scott Okay.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: Edgar Wright is the director behind Scott Pilgrim Versus the World.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: He did Hot Fuzz, Sean of the Dead, Baby Driver.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: He recently did the new Running Man remake that's out
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: in theaters right now, Okay, with Glenn Powell. Edgar Wright
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: is known for his big, bold visuals, his quirky sense
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: of humor, his heart in a movie. I don't know
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: if you saw Hot Fuzz, but there's a lot of
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: heart in that film. Sean of the Dead, there's a
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: lot of heart in it. So he's got a lot
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: of the ingredients you would want in good classic Trek right.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: A lot of his movies deal with an ensemble cast.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: They all get their moments to shine. They all are
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: distinctly different. They all you know, they work together to
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: get an accomplished goal.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: So, so he's got a lot of the basic things
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: you need. But would he do it? Would Paramount give
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: him the keys to the kingdom? I don't know, but
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: I kind of like this idea.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't hate it.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, have you seen any of those movies I've seen
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Scott Pilgrim? Okay, so I haven't seen any of the
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: like the Simon Peg like Shawn of the Dead or
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Hot Fuzz or anything like that. They're on my radar,
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: They're on my they're they're in my.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Cue, but I haven't seen him yet.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Knowing you, I think you would like Hot Fuzz more
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: than you like Shanna the Dead, Okay because Hot Fuzz
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: deals with like people who grew up with like nineties
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: action films. Oh okay, yeah, so I think you would
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: dig it and it's pretty funny. Yeah, but but yeah,
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: I don't know if the if the Chat wants to
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: chime in here on this, But what do you guys
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: think of Edgar Wright potentially taking over Star Trek. This
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: isn't like a rumor or anything like that. It's just
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: an idea somebody was putting out there on Yahoo, and
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: I thought it was kind of an interesting idea, and
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: I just wanted to bring it out for people to
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: talk about. Okay, well, then our last news story comes
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: to us from what is this? Oh also Yahoo Finance
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: as well, And this story is there was recently a
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: classic TV auction and it pulled in more than three
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: million dollars. They sold all sorts of things, all sorts
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: of like wardrobe like let's see Caesar Romero's Joker costumes
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: sold for two hundred and twelve thousand dollars. Yeah, Julie
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: Newmar's cat suit back or catwoman suit sold for sixty
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: eight thousand dollars. So big, big, big, big money for
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: some of these things. A batter rang from the nineteen
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: sixty six Pack and Show sold for fifty thousand dollars.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: But but some other items too were Captain Kirk's Starfleet
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: uniform as worn by William Shatner in the episode Mirror Mirror,
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: that sold for sixty two five dollars. Oh wow, okay,
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: yeah yeah, and then oh another outfit that he wore
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: in mirror mirror as well, also sold for fifty two thousand,
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: five hundred dollars, so just ten grand less, so a
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: bunch of different things. If I remember this is the
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: auction that it was a dentist who owned a lot
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: of these things, really, yeah, and he just collected them
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: throughout the years. And there you go, oh jazz business
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: chiming in. I guess he's referring to Edgar Wright. He's
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: good while both is those movies. Yeah, he would do well. Yeah,
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: so I don't think it's a bad call with the Edgar, right,
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: And you know, whether or not it happens, who knows,
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: But there you go. But yeah, they just want more trek,
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: yeah for sure.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: For sure that's something you and I and and Dan
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: could all agree on. Oh yeah, everybody listening to this show,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: we just want more track.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: Hey, we're gonna be getting it soon. We're gonna be
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: getting the you know, well, there you go.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked a little bit about that. Yeah at
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: the panel. What was the vibe on that lukewarm?
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Yep?
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna watch it. Everybody's gonna give it a chance.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the vibe I get on the Instagram is like, God,
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: this looks so bad, but hopefully we're surprised.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I you know, I was in a room
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: with hardcore Star Trek fans and yeah a new Star
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Trek show.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, okay at all?
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah where the vibe.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: I think the general vibe is, yeah, what you just said,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: this is gonna be a disaster. But yeah, everybody was
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: just like, yeah, Legacy would be nice.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: But yeah yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. All right, Well we
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: should probably get to our main topic, Star Trek. Is
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: there anything else you want to bring up though or.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Nope, no, we no, I'll maybe as we do listener feedback,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I can talk a little bit more about the comic.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Con Okay, sounds good. All right, well let's get into
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: Star Trek Nemesis.
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: Fun will now come out?
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, I have thoughts.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so let's let's before we get into that, let's
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: look at the Rotten Tomato score, because I have that
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: and why not so startric Nemesis. This came out in
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: two thousand and two, was PG thirteen. It has a
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: critic rating of thirty seven percent on Rotten to Me,
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: any fan rating of forty nine percent. This film started
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: a very young Tom Hardy Plane hard Yeah. Yeah, let's see.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: According to Wikipedia, this film had a budget of sixty
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: million dollars and a box office of sixty seven million dollars.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: So not well received at all. No, yeah, no, yeah,
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: it probably lost money. Because even though that sounds like,
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: well they made more money, you got to think marketing, budget, marketing.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's the biggest thing that most people that
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: even people that report on this kind of stuff, they
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: don't account for.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: This was the production budget, right.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: And it doesn't include yeah, any of the marketing, which
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: can almost which some films can double the amount. Yeah, yeah,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: it can end one hundred million dollars on the movie
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: and then another ninety million dollars on marketing.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: And if you don't make two undred million dollars on
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: that movie, it's you know, it's a financial failure.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: Right right.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: This movie had a couple.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: There was They tried to tap a couple of different
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: people for directory.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: They did ask nick Meyer.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Nick Meyer said no, a couple of people asked to
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: direct this movie like LeVar Burton and Jonathan Frakes, who.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: Oh, they wouldn't ever do it.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: No, they would not he uh And and one of
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: the reasons. Jonathan Frake said that he asked to direct
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: this movie because he thought it was his responsibility to
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: ask to direct this movie. But in the end, in
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: the end, they got Stuart how do you pronounce his
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: last name?
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Bayard start?
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yea, so Stuart Bird when you look up
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Stuart Byrd byed. He's listed as an editor, a producer,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: and a director. Okay, he he had only directed a
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: couple other things at all.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: He directed.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, everybody remembers this sequel to The Fugitive, right, we
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: watched it. I mean everybody's got a DVD of the
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Future of the Fugitive sequel.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Does anybody remember the Futuitive sequel?
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: No, it was Us Marshall's because nobody remembers it because
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: nobody saw it. Right, He's not a director. He's an editor.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: He's edited some great things. He edited to Superman nineteen
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: seventy eight Superman.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the Richard Donner cut.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: So he Uh, he's an editor and they got him
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: to direct this movie.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: I mean he must have.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Had a big background in Star Trek though. He must
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: have been a huge Star Trek fan, right, No, he knew
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: nothing about Star Trek, absolutely zero, and he didn't watch
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: any Star Trek to Next Generation episodes to prepare for
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: his role.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: As he did.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: He did. He did direct maybe one of the best
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: Steven Sagall films.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Executive decision, Yeah, I saw executive decision. Was that a
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Steven Seagal movie. Okay, I saw that.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't even recognize that movie.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: I recognized, Uh, it's great, Oh my god. Yeah, but
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: you know, Marina sert Marina Sertaz called him an idiot
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: later on, uh, and she never walked that one back.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Be fair, He's not an idiot. He was just a
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: horrible director.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, he just did not fit with them.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: He knew.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: It was so disappointing to so many people, the direction
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: he took this film. He he didn't acknowledge anything that
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: came before him. He refused to acknowledge anything that came
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: before him. He just wanted to do this film his way.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: He was annoyed with the cast. The cast was annoyed
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: with him. Jonathan Frakes said he was extremely disappointed in
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: this movie. You know, I I I told Jonathan Frakes
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: in person famously, and I've said it before in the
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: show when I when I met him a few years ago.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: I said, if they had had you direct Star Trek.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Nemesis, they would be making Star Trek twenty three right now. Yeah,
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: And he looked at me and said, from your mouth
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: to God's ears.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: And this this movie.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Was just one, in my opinion, in the podcaster's opinion,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: was one mistake after another.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: So other than that, I have almost no feelings about it.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Do you haven't.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, the only thing they got right is they
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: got Tom Hardy in there.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Yea, he was.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: He was trying as best he could to make it work.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes, he was trying.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: He was trying.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: He tried so hard that even after the commercial failure
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: of this movie, he got uh he was depressed and
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: got into drugs a little bit, Yeah, because of this film,
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: because he thought this was gonna be a jumping point
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: for his career.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to remember he was a nobody in.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: The grit He was completely unknown. Yeah, and I got
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: to handed to Tom Hardy. He went from you know,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: a bean pole in this movie, yeah, to eventually playing Baine.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: And if you had asked me, you know twenty years ago,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: who from this movie is gonna end up playing Baine?
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't have picked Tom Hardy.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: You would be like, oh yea, I want to see
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: Batman fightin.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: On right, Yeah, that had been a quick one. Uh. Yeah,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: the dude balked up over the years.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Love Tom Hardy, love everything he's been in. I'm glad
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: he got over this hump in his career.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah too.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about the movie a little bit.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the movie, the premise is, uh, there's been an
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: attack on the Romulin Senate and and uh so the
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: what is it they after that?
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Though?
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: They're the Federation is told, hey, the the Romulins want
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: to have peace after this attack, right, I guess right,
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: And so they send they send the Enterprise to go
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: and talk to the Romulins and find out what's going on.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: It ends up the Senate is now being run by
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: shins On, and so the Federation wants to find out
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: if shins On is serious and and what's up with him?
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: And uh, it ends up shins On is a Picard clone. Yes,
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: he is from a from a failed past plan project, yeah,
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: to replace him with a with a clone, I guess, yeah,
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: A ploy to start a war, yes yeah. Uh. And
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: from there on out we also find a a prototype
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: of data. So we have two evil clones running around.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: One is an idiot, one is smart, and uh, you know,
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: it ends up that Shinzon happened to have found the
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: prototype clone and left it scattered on a moon or
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: a planet I forget what it is. Yeah, and uh
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: and and was that was all part of his evil plan.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a backstory about how he finds how he
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: finds before.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, he's before ends up getting dismantled and
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: then he gets found when I when I okay, so
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: let me back up. I did not watch this movie, okay,
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: I uh, like just regular watching a movie. I actually
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: last night I watched the common commentary okay, okay with
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Denise and Michaelakuda. Okay, that was cool.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: I really enjoyed their insight in the movie. They were
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: very even keeled about their opinions about, you know, the director.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: They just mostly were just mentioning, you know, some of
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: the technical aspects and stuff like that, which is, you know,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: that's what they do. But on Thursday on when I
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: was working, I actually listened to the audiobook of this
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: oh okay yeah yeah, And that's available free on YouTube.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: So if you're if you.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Got a you know, an itch and to listen to
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: this on audiobook. And so it was interesting because it
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: included the audiobook of this included scenes all the deleted scenes. Okay,
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: so it was you know, I enjoyed it because it
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: was Star Trek, but it was more storytelling that I
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: didn't care for.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: But there was so many things in this movie that
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: I started, like, not necessarily nitpicking, but thought, oh, that's
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: weird that they did that. So like, okay, when they
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: when they later went on to reboot Star Trek in
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: the two thousand and nine film, Right, your last movie
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: dealt with the Romulins, so then your big reboot film
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: is going to be dealing with.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: The Romulins, right.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: And then the other thing is, okay, so in your
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: previous film Nemesis, how do you defeat the Romulins? Well,
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: you throw the Enterprise right at them, right and and
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: and and ram them. In the reboot film, first five
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: minutes of the movie, let's let's throw a starship into.
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's like I thought we were rebooting guys,
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: that's going on here. Yeah, just let's do a lot
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: of the same things.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, A lot of this movie didn't make sense.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: And the reason why a lot of this movie didn't
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: make sense is speak because the director didn't care. I'm
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: not just saying that because I didn't like the director.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: I'm saying that because by his own admission, he didn't
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: know anything about Star Trek and he was more interested
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: in making an action film than making a Star Trek film, right.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: And that's what everybody you know, that's the cast and
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: the crew and everybody from Rick Berman to LeVar Burton,
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Jonathan Frakes, I'm talking about people who have directed Star
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Trek and produced Star Trek.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: That's what they all had to say. He just didn't care.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: He just he wanted to make an action film. You know.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: And I've seen the director's commentary before, years and years
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: ago with with the director as commentary, and he he
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: spoke as if he had a little bit a little
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: bit of disdain for Star Trek or maybe the people
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: that worked in that franchise. You know, I don't care
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: what they want. I wanted to do this and I
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: wanted to do that, and you know, he didn't care
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: if it made sense within the franchise. He wanted to
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: make an action film, and that I don't know why
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Paramount or whoever wanted him so badly. Maybe Paramount wanted
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: an action film, but.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: I'm okay, I'm just guessing from that timeframe, their biggest
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: hit was was First Contact, and that was an action film.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: And so when they're getting pitches and this guy goes, yeah,
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: so I want to do an action movie, they went, yes,
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: that's our guy.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Or they could have gone, our biggest hit has been
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Star Trek, First Contact. Who we're going to get to
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: direct this next film? Well, who directed the last one?
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Or or they went the last movie was basically
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: criticized for being a long episode. We need to do
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: something completely different, right, And in his pitches like I
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: don't want to do an episode, I want him to
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: make it this, this and this.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, they're like, oh, you've never seen an episode of
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Star Trek. Great, we don't want to make another episode
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: of Star Trek.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, like that kind of thought. Yeah yeah, so,
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: I mean it's crazy.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: But Ghostbusters to Tully was like, guys, I got my
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: law degree at night school. They're like, that's great, Lewis
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: we were we were arrested at night.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah? Yeah, so it's uh, it was. It was
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: rough Man.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: Another thing I wanted to point out that I thought
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: was hilarious was after they meet Shinzon, they go back
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: to the Enterprise and at one point, uh, Picard goes,
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: uh report to Starfleet what we've said. And I kept
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: thinking about the poor guy that's been like, yeah, so
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: we met Shinzon. Uh, he's kind of an evil Piccard clone. Yeah, Like,
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: how do you explain that?
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: The admirles, like, you know, three weeks later they actually
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: disseminate that reporter of.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Like what yeah, yeah, somebody get Picard on some space
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Want to talk to Admiral Janeway too.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: Oh that one too, Yeah.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Admiral Janeway. Kate Marlgrew makes a cameo appearance. She's the
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: one that orders Picard to the Neutrals and the whole
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: reason why. So they tried to explain away why the
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Enterprise was the only ship and range. It was because
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: shin Zen had put the pieces of data, the pieces
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: of before on the planet.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: That was part of their plan was to lure the Enterprise.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: Away from everyone else and away from.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Everyone else, you know, a knit that I when I
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: first watched the movie that I didn't understand was there
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: was six pieces of before, two arms, two legs of
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: torso would a head.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Wharf says that there were six distinct positronic signatures. Yes,
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: I didn't understand that. Why would a robotic arm emit
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: a positronic signature? That didn't make sense to me.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: In my mind, the only thing that would admit a
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: positronic signature would be his head, which is where my
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: brain's at. I don't know. That was just a silly
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: thought that I had. But the Scimitar, the Scimitar, yes,
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Like they just said, Okay, let's make
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: a ship that's just badass. It's it's twice as big
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: as the Enterprise.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: It's got fifty two phaser banks and ninety photon torpedo launchers,
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: just all primary and secondary shields. And I remember my
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: my friend Gabe at the time said, why doesn't every
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: ship have primary and secondary shields?
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense right.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, A Tree says, the movie has a Beatle, has
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: them beautiful Scorpion class attack flyers, and the Argo and
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: Buggy scene was hilarious. Oh dude, I can I can
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: go off about the Argo Dune Buggy like, oh yes,
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: please do yes that thing like okay, So the idea
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: that Starfleet was like, okay, they're gonna go on planets
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: they named may need to travel. We're gonna give them
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: a a vehicle to travel on. It's not gonna have
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: any protection on it. No, no, you know, no paneling, no,
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: no force field, nothing like windscreen, no windscreen.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Just I'm sure give my protection.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: You know, they're going to strange new worlds and we
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: have no idea of the environments, but I'm sure it'll
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: be sunny.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: So yep.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: So yeah, well we'll put them in that and you
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: know what for for just you know, ships and giggles.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: Let's put a gun on it, right absolutely, Yeah.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Well that that brings up another point too. Uh.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: They they're scanning the planet and they're like, what's down there?
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: Just a pre warp Uh, industrial societ is down there?
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Great? Uh, let's just go down there and you know.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: Were literally the last movie was like we have to
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: hide from these people, right prime directive what Yeah, yeah,
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: who cares?
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: You know, let him Uh, and we're gonna shoot at
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: him too. So and we're gonna land and take off
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: a shuttle craft.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no problem, your gods have descended and they are angry.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, the Argo, Yeah, the Argo.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: It's ridiculous that said I wish they made a toy one.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, yeah, I thought it was cool. Yeah, I mean,
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: who doesn't like doom buggies and and uh yeah a
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: tray a tray U Prime.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the Scorpion class attack fight flyers. Those are cool. Yeah,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: I love the looks of those. I think there should
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: be more, uh of those types of you know, enemy
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: ships or even Starfleet should have something like that.
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: You may get your wish in the new Rebuilt film.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: Maybe I'll get my wish in the New Reboot. Didn't
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: you know Star Trek Beyond had something kind of like
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: that that that decapitated the Enterprise.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah yeah they had.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Like single single person fighters.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they had the yeah, the swarm, Yeah.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: The swarm that were kind of cool. But yeah, the
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: Scorpion class attack flyers. You know, there's another thing too,
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: picard being able to pilot that Scorpion attack fighter if
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: everything's in not just a foreign language, but a foreign layout.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: I mean I guess you could say, you know, because
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: the data had a hard time deciphering the door code. Now,
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: it might not be because he was having a trouble
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: reading the language. I think he was trying to decipher
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: the encryption as well.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so I don't know.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: Maybe because it's Riemen and Reeman is kind of close
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: to Romulin, and Romulin is kind of close to Vulcan,
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: and people in the Federation kind of know Vulcan maybe
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: a little bit.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Somebody like Picard might know. That's an awful big leap though.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm thinking about the scene where like they're
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: they're all talking for the first time and and Shinzon's
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: got his viceroy with them, m hm, you know, and
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: I get wanting Tom Hardy to be like, yes, I'm
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: evil Picard and this is my Dracula.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: The Rimans too. This is the first time you've seen
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: the Riemons. They're like a slave class.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Yes, they were used in the They mentioned something about
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: the Dominion War.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: They were used as assault fighters. And in the Dominion War.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you're.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: Gonna fight Jim Hanard, you get some Draculas, So it right, right.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: So I'm also trying to figure out where they came from.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: So we know that Romulins and Vulcans were once part
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: of the same species, right, and that sometime ago they
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: split off. The Ramens split off from the Vulcans, and
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: the Romulans presumably went off and founded Romulus, and then
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: a group of them split off and became Riemons.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: I don't know, because Hmans just native to that other
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: planet to Remus.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: But they also they also sort of say that they
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: also sort of imply there's a connection between the Riemans
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: and the Vulcans because the Riemans have a little bit
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: of telepathic ability.
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: Okay, how about this? So in Enterprise they answered the
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: whole klingon Augments thing, right, and that's why they look
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: so different in the original series. Maybe this is maybe
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: the Riemans are the Vulcan or the Romulus version of Augments, Okay,
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: and that's why it looks so different.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: I just think it's weird that they have the telepathic
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: ability the Romulans don't.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: Right, But that's what I mean. That's why they have
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: it because they're the Augments.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, not because there's a connection between them and Vulcans, right, Okay,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: I mean that's my head canon.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, why not? Sure? Sure? At this point, you're on
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: shackle from Cannon to Daniel.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: That's right, that's right, that's right, break them chains. But
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: Ron Perlman did a great job as a viceroy.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Loved Ron Perlman.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he was fantastic in that.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: I was watching Cinema Sins and and and one of.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: The sins he was about to do, He's like, oh,
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: discount Rond Peerlman. Oh wait a minute, that is Ron Peerlman.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was great.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: Check out Cinema Sins for this movie too. I got
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: to see them the offiserates.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: I bet, I bet.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: So overall you like this movie then.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, by far my favorite star Trek Yeah yeah, today
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: this section thirty one star Trek five.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: Right, all they're all great? Yeah uh yeah, this one
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: was pretty weak. It was kind of sad to see
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: them good go out on a bad note like this.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah and there, Okay, there were some good parts of
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: this movie. I did enjoy some of the.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: Action sequences, right, I liked some of them were a
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: bit over the top and a little bit like like
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: they were trying to be a little too semantic.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: The scene between you know, I was I was definitely
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: rooting during that fight between the Viceroy and Riker, you know,
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: number one and Number one against each other.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: You know, I did like.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: There was I kind of liked the finality of it.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: You know, the scene in the ready room where the
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: card looks at everybody says, we have to stop this.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: All other concerns are secondary, and he looked, you know,
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: he looks at Will, you know, even if we have
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: to all die, even if you can't get married, we
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: have to stop this, and and sort of Will's non
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: spoken line to everybody else where, he looks and like.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we get it. Was good.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: And you know the scene the death of Data spoiler
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: alert if you haven't seen the movie.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: You know that in the in the novelization. The scene
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: that got to me was in the novelization they talk
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: about in the in the moment between Data putting the
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: the mini transporter which I'd like to talk about that too,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: on the card and beaming away and the instant that
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: he fires onto the what the what the what's it called?
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: The yeah, the scimitars generator thing, the hailron generator in
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: the In the novelization, it says that, uh, Data for
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: like a second in that one second, he relives his
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: entire life.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, because he's capable.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: Of doing that, because he's an. So he goes through
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: every memory ever had from being activated on omicron data,
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: you know, and and then reliving you know, whistling on
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: the Holid deck and and being with Tashi Yar and
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: and having these adventures with his with his crew on
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: the Enterprise D and then on the Enterprise D all
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: the way up to the moment where he's about ready
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: to fire, and it basically.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Says, you know, I'm I'm good.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: And then he fires, and I'm like, hmm, that was
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: I wish in the movie they had had something like that,
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: a seven second flashback scene, yeah, you know, And so
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: that he has his most poignant is his most emotional
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: moments that we can see that I think that would
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: have drawn the audience in even further.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: And then he fires and is destroyed that portable transporter. Yeah.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: So I have the Enterprise D technical manual. Oh okay,
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: here we go, okay.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: And it talks about the transporter system. These transporter systems
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: are huge, Like you look at the transporter room and
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: the Enterprise D and you see how tall the transporter
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: room itself is right, the trans like the guts of
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: the transporter go down as just as deep. And there's
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: a lot of machinery involved, and each piece of machinery
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: has a specific function. The transporter takes five seconds and
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: it goes through those five seconds everything that it needs
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: to do, and all the things that is there, all
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: the machinery that's there, the buffers and the emitters and
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: all that stuff. There ain't no way in hell that
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: all that that fits in that little tiny brooch just
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: there's Now, if it was a transporter beacon like it
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: somehow reached out, reached out to the to the ether
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: and said, like an enhancement. Yeah, whatever transporter is out there,
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna lock onto that. And in an emergency situation
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: I can, I can get behind that. But the fact
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: that an entire transporter is in this little.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Tiny I don't buy it. Plus, how would a transporter
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: transport itself?
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: Okay, since you're so angry at the pretending machine warning warning,
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: NERD alert, NERD alert.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: I'm angry. I could forgive. I could forgive Stewart if
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: it were Stuart Buyer, if it were this.
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: Or perhaps maybe this is more.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: That's sarcastic fan.
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: You mus be a devil with the ladies.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes I am.
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: There you go, there you go.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, you know, there were so many knits in this
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: I looked at the trivia section of IMDb and I
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: looked at the you know, goofs, and there's just so
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: there's just so many of them. Yeah, there's so many goofs.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna get into any of them. The
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: one thing about this movie though, that I did like
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: it was the music was done by Jerry Goldsmith. It
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: was one. It was the last Star Trek.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: Project he did and the second to last movie project
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: he did before he passed away in two thousand and four.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: Jerry Goldsmith is my He's in my top three favorite composers,
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: probably my top composer. So you know, John Williams, Danny Elfman,
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: you know, Jerry Goldsmith. I love his music just you
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: know First Contact, Love the theme from First Contact, just
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: and the music in this movie was great.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Loved it.
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: So if only, if only in this new reboot film
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: we get daft punk to be the music.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Come yeah yeah.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: And of course you know, if you ask me who
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: do you want to do the music for the next
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: you know Jerry Goldsmith, that's the son that's also a uh,
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: pretty good composer in his own right.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: But you know, we don't want anything legacy.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: Involved, No, no, why would we.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: No vital thoughts about this train wreck of a Next
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: Gen movie though, I mean next Generation.
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: I had a lot of fun kind of nitpicking it
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: in the back of my head.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but.
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: It was I'm glad we're done. I'm glad we're through it.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: Yea.
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: All now I have something to be thankful for Thanksgiving
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: that it's over.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, I'm i you know, And I'm glad that
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Picard season three happened.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because if Picard Season three had not have happened,
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: this would have been the legacy of the Next Generation crew, right,
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: and I'm glad it wasn't.
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: Oh we got somebody else joined in the chat, Yeah,
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: gotma wait, yeah, hey, there you go. And they want
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: Brent Spiner to play something something.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'd love Brent Spider.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: Even if Brent Spider didn't come back as data, you know,
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: he could play something.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, why not you get Chris Pine back?
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: Anybody anybody really?
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just can't wait for Star Trek with Kevin
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: hard in it put him in.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'll take that. I'll take why not? Why not?
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah? All right? Well, well on that note, should we
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: get to listener feedback?
• 54:03
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• 55:13
  Speaker 2: On the air.
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And then, uh, you know, I did ask our
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: Facebook group about Star Trek Nemesis and their thoughts on it,
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: and we did get some responses. So I do kind
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: of want to go over that. Let me bring up
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: the Facebook real quick. So let's see. So former Trek
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: cast host Darren Benjamin did comment on this, and I
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: thought that this was kind of funny. So he did
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: say that they had a screening of Nemesis for the
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: Star Trek Experience employees at the time, okay, and he
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: said after watching that he thought the movie would get
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: completely destroyed by Lord of the Rings the Two Towers,
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: which was also released the same day. Oh so yeah,
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: so that's pretty right.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: So did Lord of the Rings of Two Towers? Did
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: they gross more than sixty.
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: Just slightly?
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: Just slightly, yes, slightly, yes, let's see. Zachary Thompson went
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: on to say that he wishes we could have a
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: Dina Meyers episode.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, went yeah, yeah.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: She was also uh, she also played Batgirl in Birds
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: of Prey. Birds of Prey was sort of a wb
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: uh sort of made by the same people that made Smallville,
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: right right. It was only one season, it was a
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: little hokey, didn't have much budget, but I enjoyed it.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: It was it was kind of cool.
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: It was a show.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: It was a show.
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: It was a show. Yeah.
• 56:46
  Speaker 6: And then he's a bit of all right, yeah, she's
• 56:50
  Speaker 6: very alright yes, and then uh, Mike Medina and myself
• 56:55
  Speaker 6: went on about what we would call this film.
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: He went for starting venom. I went for starch like
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: English rapper because if you don't know, Tom Hardy used
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: to be a rapper back in the nineties.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Star Trenk Fury Road Ye start road.
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so there you go. Okay, uh, we do
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: have Chasbis on the line, so let me bring him in.
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: There you go. You know, at this point, we might
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: as well just call it Chasbits Feedback instead of.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: Listener chas feedback.
• 57:26
  Speaker 7: Where is everybody? That's right, that's right, Century, where's our
• 57:31
  Speaker 7: old guys?
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: Come on? I know, yeah, come on back everybody.
• 57:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah, hipster and others?
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I know, yeah yeah yeah man, So what'd.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: You think of the movie? My friends have threatened to
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: come on the show, so.
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: I know, I said it, well, school friend, Yeah, this
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: is the first.
• 57:49
  Speaker 7: Star Trek movie I saw in theaters.
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, and.
• 57:53
  Speaker 7: I brought my friend. I was all excited. I was like, yes,
• 57:56
  Speaker 7: let's go see Star Trek.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:58
  Speaker 7: And afterwards each there was like.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: That's.
• 58:03
  Speaker 7: It's kind of a stupid movie. So do you even
• 58:08
  Speaker 7: know what went on?
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: Though?
• 58:13
  Speaker 7: It was it was kind of hard to explain. I
• 58:14
  Speaker 7: was like, Plus, Tom Hardy didn't look anything like Pard,
• 58:21
  Speaker 7: you know.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: O you know?
• 58:25
  Speaker 7: Now now they would the age Captain Picard, you know,
• 58:31
  Speaker 7: and well.
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: The original script had uh Picard, had Patrick Stewart playing
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: both parts.
• 58:36
  Speaker 7: Okay, that would have been cool if you could have
• 58:38
  Speaker 7: you know, they didn't have the technology back then, but
• 58:41
  Speaker 7: to dage him and having hadn't do that.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: But well, I think the idea is they were gonna
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: have him played both parts, that his aging had already
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: taken place, like they already did the the temporal RNA whatever.
• 58:57
  Speaker 7: I think that would have been a better fit.
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: Some Yeah, it would have made more sense when he's
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: in shadow and then you see him, yes.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: You know, and evil Patrick Stewart would have been much
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: more menacing.
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: Only if they did a really bad French accent that
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: he does. Yeah, after every yes, real money python stuff.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my goodness.
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: That would have made the movie so much better.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: Now if it.
• 59:40
  Speaker 7: Hardy came out on the Bain voice to be like,
• 59:42
  Speaker 7: oh yes.
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: Dude, if you're gonna do evil clones, why not just
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: bring in Thomas Raker to.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: Lore.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: We get more, we get an evil Dury, no reason,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: mirror universe Kira. Yeah, yes, she could try to seduce Picard.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 7: Yes you think this is your friend?
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: I was holded it.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: That's right, that's right.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 7: I mean it would have been perfect. Yeah, send the
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 7: pain mask on and he just walks out and yeah, crap.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 7: And it's so funny, like how like little he is.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 7: He's like skinny and like.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: I know, I know when when I remember when Batman
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: uh came out, Batman three came out, They're like Tom
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: Hardy as Bane.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: I'm like, wait a.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: Minute, the guy from Nemesis is gonna be Bane and
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: And then when I first saw the film, I'm.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: Like, wow, yeah, what steroids.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: I want your brand to create Team Man.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: He did do another movie called Bronson that was y yeah,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: where he is giant in that as well.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, like Tom Hardy.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the True Prime says if they did that, meaning
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: they if they had Stewart played evil on you would
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: not have the haughty Tom Hardy play in the Pard clone, though.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: You would you could have he could still be in
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: it in like in like flashback scenes.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, how he how he.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: Grew up, and they could even they could even do like,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: you know, some of the scenes where he's like has
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: the nasty face and everything, him going through like the process,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: and then they could just end it with him, you know,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: finally becoming you know, Patrick Stewart Picard.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: You could do. You could do Patrick Stewart Pricard for
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: like the the Shadowy part, right, yeah. And then because
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: his his aging is unstable, like they say, he regresses
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: back to Tom Hardy.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah that could have been that would have worked too. Yep. Yeah,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: that's a good idea.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: Do you use him for the flashbacks to establish that
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: that's still the same guy, and then he's regressing back
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: and that's why he needs whatever it is magic blood
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: from the card to stabilize himself.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, okay, I know, yeah, all right, just this movie,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: this movie. It wasn't just bad, I have bad.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: I have bad vibe Juju's for this movie because what
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: it not only how bad it was, but what it
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: did to the franchise.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Yees killed the next generation for twenty years?
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 7: What killed the next generation? And a heart enterprise, you know,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 7: because the Enterprise what ended? Yes, a year or two
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 7: later after this, yep. Yeah, and after that they just
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 7: they shelled it. And that's what scares me. The way
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 7: Trek's going right now. It's like, are they going to
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 7: shelve it for Yeah?
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: I bet we don't get shows after after Strength. Yeah,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: well because Academy is still gonna be running.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 7: But two years, right.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: Two seasons at least?
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, and Stranger World.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 7: And then Strange New Worlds. You know, the last two
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 7: you know, well the last season just wasn't good.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: So no, yeah, we.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: Got two more seasons.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: Everybody liked the panel or the Yeah, the panel I
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: was at yesterday, the Star Trek, the Starfleet International panel.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: Everybody did say they liked Strange in Worlds.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: There wasn't a lot of complaining even about season two
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: and season three of Strange New Worlds.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so, I mean, of everything, it is the most
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: well received.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: Yes, oh yeah, absolutely absolutely.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 7: But everybody the Cards season.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: Three of everything that's yeah yeah.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 7: And that's number one, and that's only one season, and
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 7: then you know, lower Decks would probably be second in
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 7: my opinion, and then Strange New Worlds.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. We talked about.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: If I could talk about the panel a little bit.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: We talked about what everybody's favorite series was. There were
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: some older people in the crowd, so a lot of
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: people said the original series I I talked about, right.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: I talked about how yeah, and some of the issues.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: By large, most people are either original series with their
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: favorite or next generation. We talked about if anybody doesn't know, uh.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: Starfleet International is the largest Star Trek fan club in
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: the world, and they have they have different chapters different
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: regions across the world, and each region has different chapters
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: or ships.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: I I belonged to the uss TECUMSA. I got their
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: card right here. It's kind of like the fib First.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can also so if you want more information
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: on them, uh, you can.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: Go to w w W dot uh s f I,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: uh dot org. Great group of people.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: They they're a lot like you know a lot of
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: these A lot of these groups like the like the
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: Ghostbusters and the Fible First.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: I gotta handle something.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: Sure, Okay, they're they're there. They're fan clubs, but they're
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: they're They also work with a lot of charities, you know,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: for example, the uh, the Starfleet International.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: They were doing a couple of different charities. One of
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: them was you could adopt an alien. They have these
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: little cute, little three D printed aliens that they hand
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: out that were a dollar and every single dollar goes
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: to the local food pantry food bank. So, which I
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: thought was was really neat st dot org.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: It's it's it's w w w dot s f I
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: dot org. And and there's so much more.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: They they have like these online classes you can take,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: you can you know, you can join up with your
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: local ship. Uh, there's there's volunteer opportunities. They show up
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: at all these comic Consuh, it's only ten dollars for
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: an individual annual membership. You know, they're they're doing the
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: Lord's work. They're doing a good job. They're they're amazing people.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: I definitely recommend you you go and check it out.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: Really good guys, really good guys. So go to go
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: to s f I dot org. Join up if you're
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: a Star Trek fan. Uh, really great. Uh, Yeah, they
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: were kind enough to let me uh during their during
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: their panel, I got up for a couple of minutes
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: and talked a little bit about what we do at
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: trek Cast and our our podcast, and everybody was everybody
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: was really excited. I handed out quite a few of
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: the stickers. Everybody loved these, so that was a pretty big,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: big hit. I I handed out some of the Star
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: Trek Booth nice Starfleet International Booth so nice. Yeah, definitely
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: get go to SFI dot org and check them out.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: So A tree Prime is asking some questions here about
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: what about the Origins Star Trek film may that may
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: live to see the light of day? It says, according
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: to screen Rant, the Origins film is in pre production.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: So as far as we know, this movie that was
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: just announced has nothing to do with that Origins film.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: And as far as we know, the Star Trek Origins,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: whatever this movie ends up being, if it ends up
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: you mean anything. Just because it's in pre production doesn't
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: necessarily means anything. All that means is it's being developed.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: It's an idea they have. They're trying to flush it
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: out see if they will actually do it. I can't
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: see them going and doing a complete reboot like they're
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: trying to do right now right, and then also coming
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: out with another Origins movie that is setting the beginning
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: of what you just rebooted. It's it's too confusing, you
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: know what I mean. So I don't think the reboot's
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: gonna happen. The Origins is gonna happen unless that is
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: your reboot. Maybe they take ideas from that, they take
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: the ideas from these new guys put them together. I
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: don't know, right, it's too we don't know anything, right,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: it's all speculation.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm not.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: I long ago I stopped getting excited by any announcements
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: until I actually yeah, post production pictures or anything like this,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: because it's all, oh, did you know they're making a
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: new Star Trek movie.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, about ten years ago.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah. How many New Star Trek movies have we announced
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: that we said, right, been attached to Yeah yeah, like
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: yeah at one time. So yeah, yeah, that's Noah Hawley
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: who did Alien instead like like all these all these people.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: The other thing people don't think about is whenever that
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: happens and they attach people to them, they have to
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: pay them, right, because they're paying them to develop in
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: the middle of all that, right, But what also happens
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: is all that deficit of payment goes towards Star Trek.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: So by the time you actually get a movie off
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: the ground, you're going to be starting negative millions of dollars, sure,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: because you never got the other projects off the ground. Right,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: So the JJ they were gonna do a fourth film, right,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: So whoever it is they paid to develop that that's negative.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: That negative, the No Holly money negative, the Tarantino money negative.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: There's a few other ones s see something, I forget
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: her name her? Right, Like, there's all these directors and
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: writers that they they've paid money to. So when Miss
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: Reboot finally hits, it may be negative, like fifty million
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: dollars thirty million? Who knows?
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: Keep mentioning Quentin Tarrityo.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I would love to see Admiral Samuel L.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: Jackson. YEA, what plan you from? They speak federation and
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: what ain't no planet I ever heard of?
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: They speak federation and what I mean? I would not
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: mind Christoph Waltz as a as a Star Trek villain.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 7: Yes, I would, My gosh, it would be the perfect villain. Yeah,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 7: you just chewed the scenery.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: He would make an awesome con. Yeah, yeah, he would
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: make a really good con.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, oh that reminds me. We got to
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: do a show on Star Trek Con.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the the the audio drama. Yeah I finished,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: did I? Yeah, yeah, we got to talk about that
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: all right. Well, uh, I got one last one.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: So yeah, Jazz, you got anything to before.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 7: A well on those name movie. At least they didn't
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 7: hire the directors of Section thirty one, so yes, that's.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: True, because they should get Stuart byed. Yeah. Yeah, hey,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: it's such a great time last time.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 7: Yes, well did I don't know the directors of this movie?
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 7: You know, they've actually done good.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: Stuff, so.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it, Yeah, and.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 7: I could see it. It might be quirky, it might
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 7: be fine. You know, hopefully they use let's let's go
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 7: to strange new worlds. Let's do something cool, you.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: Know yeah hopefully, Yeah.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 7: Let's make it about let's make it about for INGI
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 7: you know, it be anything. It's a giant universe.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got a whole. They got a whole.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: His I hate to say it, but they have a
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: whole history to pull from, you know, they don't they
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: don't have to ret wheel, which is what I know.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: I keep talking about him that.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: That's what the Stuart Bayer did is he tried to
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: reinvent the wheel. They've got this wonderful franchise to.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 7: To you know, draw on because one of the guys,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 7: he's one the actress from Freaks and Geeks. If you
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 7: ever watched that show, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he was
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 7: like the little geeky kid, right and you know he's
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 7: actually made something of himself, which is awesome, you know, yeah,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 7: after you know it's actually.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: Done a lot.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 7: So yeah, I don't know, just put faith in them,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 7: you know, depends.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: On whatever they come out with. I'll watch and we
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: will discuss on the show.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 7: M hm, Well we'll watch anything Star Trek's have did
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 7: one or whatever.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: We will cover it on on Trek cass uh. Speaking
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: of covering it, uh, One.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: Last time to announce next weekend in Chicago is Star
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: Trek Trek to Chicago November twenty second and the twenty third,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: So that Saturday and Sunday. It's at the Weston O'Hare
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: Hotel in Rosemont, Illinois.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I will be.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: There Saturday and Sunday. They've got a pretty amazing lineup
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: so far. They've only had two cancelations Jonathan Frakes and
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: I don't remember the actress's name who plays Ohura, but
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: those who had to cancel, Okay, otherwise I won't go
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: over the list again. Just go to just google Star
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: Trek Chicago. It's the first thing that'll pop up. But
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: we're gonna do if anybody wants to meet up, I'm
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: gonna be We're gonna be having dinner, probably at the
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: restaurant attached to the hotel the con The convention runs
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: until about six, so we're gonna have a meetup sometime
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: around seven or eight local time. I've already had one
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: person contact me and say be interested to meet up.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: So if you'd be interested in.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: Meeting up Saturday night, send me a message through face Book.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: I'm on the Facebook group. Just send me a message
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: through the Facebook group and we'll meet up.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: So it should be a pretty pretty good time.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: So a lot of Star Trek actors.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: So we just got this coming in from Gabe. He
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: says Star Trek needs its own and or uh, we've
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: talked about this before, Gabe. There's a strong argument that
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: d S nine is the ind.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 7: Or for Star Trek yeah, oh they need a new
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 7: they need a new one.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they need a new one.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 7: Yes, but the generation.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, or rogue one.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 7: You know, this one could be the rogue one of
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 7: some track something Yeah that ties into whatever.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 7: Maybe it's when the cards destroying everything, you know, evil man,
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  Speaker 7: you know, when he's the cutest, like you could do that.
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