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  Speaker 3: about the guy that melted his face to the grill?
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about, uh, resumes full of lies, uh, maybe somehow,
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  Speaker 2: the person so you can keep it anonymous. Let's not,
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  Speaker 2: let's not throw anybody under the, under the bus for real. So, uh,
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  Speaker 3: For sure.
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  Speaker 2: So have you guys got good stories today? I do.
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  Speaker 2: We'll try to do two or three a piece. Cause
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  Speaker 2: you told me you had some long ones too. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: We have some very windy ones today.
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  Speaker 2: And you had some type of comment from our social media,
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  Speaker 2: someone maybe thought was funny.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You think I think it will be funny.
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  Speaker 4: I do, yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: All right. So why don't I start? You want to
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  Speaker 2: do that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, sure. Yeah, of course.
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  Speaker 2: So we've been– here's the story. And I read this
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  Speaker 2: a minute ago. This thing goes from a little menacing
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  Speaker 2: at work to just absolute crazy town. So we had
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  Speaker 2: been noticing a lot of tools– going missing at work,
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  Speaker 2: like thousands of dollars worth of drills, batteries, sawzalls, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. You know, we're a pretty large
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  Speaker 2: manufacturing facility, but our processes hadn't caught up to our
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  Speaker 2: size yet, so nothing was really tagged or identified, which
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  Speaker 2: made it really hard to track. I guess easy to
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  Speaker 2: steal when they don't know what they have. Yeah. I
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  Speaker 2: was working in one of our shops, and the supervisor
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  Speaker 2: came in and grabbed one of the apprentices and asked
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  Speaker 2: him to come with it. Now, this kid was always
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  Speaker 2: a pretty decent guy, pretty funny, and not a bad worker.
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  Speaker 2: We all knew he was kind of a mess, though,
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  Speaker 2: and had a lot of bad habits. So when he
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  Speaker 2: got asked to go, we started to put it together
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  Speaker 2: that he must have been the one stealing the stuff,
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  Speaker 2: probably to pay for drugs, and that he was going
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  Speaker 2: to get let go. He comes back a little bit
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  Speaker 2: later and confirms that he was fired and grabs a
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  Speaker 2: couple of things, but doesn't touch his tools. Very odd,
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  Speaker 2: considering that's how we make our living. But one of
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  Speaker 2: the guys asked if he's going to take them. And
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  Speaker 2: all he said was, nope, I don't need them. But
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  Speaker 2: watch me in the news. Then he left.
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  Speaker 3: What? That's him.
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  Speaker 2: We kind of. Oh, no.
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  Speaker 4: This is going on.
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  Speaker 2: The story keeps going. We kind of looked at each
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  Speaker 2: other and laughed. Figured he was just mad and making
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  Speaker 2: some crazy statements or claims. And that he'd come back
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  Speaker 2: and grab them when he calmed down a little bit. Nope,
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  Speaker 2: never returned. Turns out he had some relationship issues going on.
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  Speaker 2: along with that rampant drug use. And now that he
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  Speaker 2: had even more time to enjoy, that he had no job.
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  Speaker 2: So he ended up assaulting his girlfriend. And when she
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  Speaker 2: left in her car, he ran down the street to
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  Speaker 2: a convenience store, carjacked some lady's ride. She managed to
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  Speaker 2: get out before he took the car. The four days
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  Speaker 2: following were pretty crazy. Apparently he was randomly committing crimes
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  Speaker 2: with no real ideas whatsoever. With the idea of what
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  Speaker 2: the heck he was doing. Lots of kind of random
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  Speaker 2: B & Es. And at one point he was confronted
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  Speaker 2: by a homeowner to which he threatened. It was pretty
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  Speaker 2: crazy seeing someone's face that you just worked with a
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  Speaker 2: few days earlier plastered all over the news.
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  Speaker 4: So he was not telling the lie when he said,
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  Speaker 4: catch me on the news. He was real serious about it.
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  Speaker 3: He was just doing all this and not knowing. Because
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  Speaker 3: he won drugs, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess. I don't know why he did all this.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. It all came to happen. Undercover officer
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  Speaker 2: spotted him in yet another stolen vehicle on the highway.
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  Speaker 2: The cop flashed his badge to try to get him
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  Speaker 2: to stop. He did stop by ramming the police car
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  Speaker 2: and forcing them both onto the side of the road.
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  Speaker 2: The officer was then attacked by the man, but he
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  Speaker 2: eventually tasered him. And got some backup. So Mr. Name
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  Speaker 2: Withheld received a decently long jail term for his efforts.
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  Speaker 2: And I've never heard from him since.
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  Speaker 3: We should give him a name.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. What's his name? What's his name?
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  Speaker 3: Bob.
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  Speaker 4: Come on, Bob.
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  Speaker 3: Dang, Bob.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: That's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: So that goes from, you know, missing Saul to carjacking to,
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  Speaker 2: you know, ramming a police officer. I guess a lot
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  Speaker 2: of times you have no idea who you're working with. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to.
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  Speaker 3: Guess not.
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  Speaker 2: I just need to check, Emma, if tools start missing
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  Speaker 2: at the office.
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  Speaker 3: I'll definitely be checking from now on. Not that I
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  Speaker 3: wasn't checking before.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It just seemed like it just went off. That was
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  Speaker 2: a Reddit one? That was a Reddit, yeah. Okay. It
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  Speaker 2: was a Reddit. I mean, it just completely went off
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  Speaker 2: the rails here. All right, here's another one. I hired
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  Speaker 2: someone who seemed promising. How many of these stories?
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  Speaker 4: They all say that. They all say they seemed promising.
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  Speaker 3: That's what they all say.
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 3: How many?
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  Speaker 2: It's just like everyone's like, oh, this was going to
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  Speaker 2: be a great hire. And then it just. So I
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  Speaker 2: hired someone who seemed promising, said he was proficient in
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  Speaker 2: a coding language. But on day one, he couldn't do
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  Speaker 2: even the basic coding in that language. So even after
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  Speaker 2: being given code samples, during his exit interview, he admitted
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  Speaker 2: he'd never used it. He'd just seen it used and thought, well,
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  Speaker 2: he could probably figure it out. The examples he gave
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  Speaker 2: in his interview were apparently stolen from co-workers. So I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. I'm just thinking.
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  Speaker 4: Pudding isn't something you can just.
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  Speaker 3: See someone do and be like, oh, yeah, I got that.
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  Speaker 3: Or I'll figure it out later.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'll just do it on the first day of the job.
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  Speaker 2: I'll just, you know, I don't know how long you
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  Speaker 2: think you.
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  Speaker 3: As long as I remember to put this in my column.
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  Speaker 2: But there's skills tests. Yeah. They actually have skills tests.
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  Speaker 2: It's just kind of crazy that someone would hire someone.
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  Speaker 3: On their work. Without, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. You know, they had to have had more than
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  Speaker 2: one applicant.
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  Speaker 4: Working interviews are like a real thing, guys. Like, you
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  Speaker 4: guys can do them.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Like, you don't have to.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I saw that once. I'll just put it on
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  Speaker 3: my resume. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I don't know. And so I was I
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  Speaker 2: was I was trying to think of the number. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we've had, I don't know, examples of people saying they
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  Speaker 2: can do things.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: My career. And then you get there and they can't.
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  Speaker 2: And in fact, I read an entire Reddit thread last
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  Speaker 2: week that was it was just people talking about how
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  Speaker 2: to lie on your resume. It was just literally, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Tell them you work here or there. Sometimes they don't check.
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  Speaker 4: Lie by your employment and like.
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  Speaker 2: Totally lie about your employment.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever time missing, just fill it in with fakeness. This
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  Speaker 2: is crazy to me. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just lie.
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  Speaker 2: And there were people telling their story of how they lied,
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  Speaker 2: that they got the job.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then... other people being like, kudos, man. That's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: And like celebrating it.
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  Speaker 3: This is so helpful.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you. Wait till, wait till they hear about a
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  Speaker 4: social media screen though, when we're checking their Reddit comments
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  Speaker 4: and it's like, yeah, I lied on that job and
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  Speaker 4: I'm in there right now.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That would be horrible.
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  Speaker 2: Media screens do catch that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that, that, uh, I know it happened,
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  Speaker 2: but I guess I was, even in the business that
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  Speaker 2: I'm in, I was still completely shocked at, uh, just
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  Speaker 2: the rampant, just Say, oh, yeah, I did it, and
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  Speaker 2: here's what I did, writing it down.
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  Speaker 4: It's like saying you speak a language when you don't.
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  Speaker 4: Coding is like a whole language.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: So I hired a contractor, and this is not a builder,
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  Speaker 2: but I think it's a coder. I hired a contractor
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  Speaker 2: after an accelerated interview, like red flag immediately, accelerated interview, meaning, hey,
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  Speaker 2: can you do this? Yeah, I can do it. You're hired.
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  Speaker 2: I hired a contractor after an accelerated interview because I
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  Speaker 2: needed someone now. And they passed with flying colors.
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  Speaker 4: That's what they say, too. Flying colors and seems promising.
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  Speaker 2: Emma, are you doing marketing? Yeah. Awesome. You're hired. You
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  Speaker 2: passed with flying colors.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: On day two, a female reports back, comes to me,
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  Speaker 2: and says, this person won't let women review his code.
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  Speaker 4: Ah. Hmm.
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  Speaker 2: I talked to the new hire to get a side
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  Speaker 2: of the story and he confirmed what, what was correct.
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  Speaker 2: I want to know what he said when he confirmed it. Well,
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  Speaker 2: he doubled down on it. I will not let a
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  Speaker 2: woman review my code. On day three.
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  Speaker 3: And why? Did he say why?
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  Speaker 2: No, he doesn't say here.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure he said. They probably don't want to.
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  Speaker 3: Post that on Reddit.
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  Speaker 2: On day three, he was fired.
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  Speaker 4: As he should be. Yeah. I mean, you're not going
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  Speaker 4: to let somebody review your work.
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand how you could possibly say that and
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  Speaker 2: think that someone's going to be, I don't let women review.
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  Speaker 2: And they're, you know, review my code and someone's going to,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the manager's going to be like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: no problem, bro.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Totally good.
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  Speaker 3: Totally get it.
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  Speaker 2: Get it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Understand.
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  Speaker 4: Understandable. I wouldn't let a woman review my code either.
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  Speaker 3: Don't worry about it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Sometimes what people will say. they lose
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  Speaker 2: their job for good reason, I think. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of these are very well deserved of firing.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of these are very well deserved of a fire.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, quick firings. Guaranteed firings. So, there's, this one is mind-blowing.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And I question whether it's real.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, there was a lady at my job that robbed,
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  Speaker 2: it just sounds like something that happened in a TV
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  Speaker 2: show or like some folklore, but There's a lady at
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  Speaker 2: my job that robbed a bank on her lunch break.
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  Speaker 2: Remember the... A couple episodes ago, we had the... Was
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  Speaker 2: it like the... Like, it leads the kids?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: What was that? But he, like, robbed 10 banks?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yes. He was in school. He was a teacher.
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  Speaker 2: Was he a teacher?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was a teacher.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe he was, like, a minister of something?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Maybe a professor? Like, a college?
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  Speaker 2: It was.
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  Speaker 4: No, it was a private school. It was a really
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  Speaker 4: high-end private school.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Robbed 10 banks. So this lady robs
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  Speaker 2: a bank on her lunch break. Comes back. Then parked
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  Speaker 2: her car in the garage of a hospital across the
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  Speaker 2: street and came back to work like nothing happened.
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  Speaker 3: With what? All the money in her car?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: If someone hears this and says, oh, we've heard that
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  Speaker 2: story before. It's totally not real. You need to tell us.
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  Speaker 3: Is this a movie, guys?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Unfortunately, she had forgotten to take off her ID badge.
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  Speaker 2: She robbed the bank, so the cops just came over
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  Speaker 2: to the building and arrested her by the end of
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  Speaker 2: the day. Real or fake?
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to give her a name. Let's call her Lisa.
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  Speaker 4: I was going to say Linda. Linda?
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  Speaker 3: Come on, Linda.
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  Speaker 4: Real or fake?
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  Speaker 2: Real or fake?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe there's truths to it, but during a lunch break
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  Speaker 4: is crazy. Like, how do you think you're, like, I
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  Speaker 4: have an hour.
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  Speaker 2: Long, like... Made me think about it was.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, like an alibi?
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  Speaker 2: The whole ID badge thing just made me think, no way.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, remember the one I read last episode, episode
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  Speaker 3: before last, when he robbed that bank with his two
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  Speaker 3: co-workers and they caught him because he signed his autograph
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  Speaker 3: on the booklet at the desk? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. Yeah. He did.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure there's, like, some parts of that that are true, but.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely stretched a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: All right. So you guys, who's got one? You've got
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  Speaker 2: a long one. I do. This is a submitted story,
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  Speaker 2: I think. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: So this story was submitted to me on LinkedIn, but
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  Speaker 4: she asked if she could stay anonymous because she said
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  Speaker 4: that a lot of the story would be very telling
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  Speaker 4: if somebody was to see it someday as to who
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  Speaker 4: they were and where she worked.
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  Speaker 2: Protecting her identity.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: And so this is a long one, guys. So buckle in.
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  Speaker 4: she said she wanted to finally share her bad hire story.
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  Speaker 4: I think she's been waiting to tell this one for
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  Speaker 4: a long time.
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  Speaker 3: I know, right?
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  Speaker 4: I hired an intern to work with me who was
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  Speaker 4: a backup for someone else I was hoping to hire.
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  Speaker 4: The day started as an intern was a day we
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  Speaker 4: had to attend a horror event, and it was her
• 13:46
  Speaker 4: actual first time walking through haunted houses. I took her through,
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  Speaker 4: and the night ended up being great for our literal
• 13:52
  Speaker 4: first time meeting each other. We naturally became close after
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  Speaker 4: that and had a pretty decent relationship. Fast forward and
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  Speaker 4: I end up hiring her full time. But I was
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: going through some personal things, a separation from my marriage,
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  Speaker 4: and was trying to be there for her, but was
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  Speaker 4: also being kind of distant. I would ask her to
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  Speaker 4: get work done and she would get very flustered and
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: wouldn't know how to handle it. She was overwhelmed by
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: everything all the time, even as simple as sending an email.
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  Speaker 4: One day I saw her using ChatGPT for every single
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: project I assigned to her, which is fine, but some
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: things need to be personal. A few months into her
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: being full time, we hired a new intern who she
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: had recommended and knew. But as she was hired, she
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: was quickly jealous of the new intern and had to.
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: So the new intern, I guess, was having to sit
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: at her desk because of the lack of like desk
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: space that they had. And she would go to my
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: fitness class with me. So that's she's saying the new
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: intern would go to these fitness classes with her. And
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: the new intern in her got closer. The original hire
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: was getting jealous and upset, even though she was invited
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: to do all these activities. but she wanted to get
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: really close to me and my friend. Since I wasn't
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: letting that happen, she decided she would tear me down.
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: She ended up quitting her job, making it about me.
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: Then she lied to my manager and to the HR
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: department about all these things that I had did. She
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: told them that she had to drive me home from
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: being too drunk at an outing, separate from a company event.
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: She told them I was using her apartment to have
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: an affair, literally never saw her apartment. She told me
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: I showed her inappropriate photos of myself that I wouldn't
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: want like wouldn't take to work and um that she
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: would show them to her while she was at work
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: i would ask her to do things because that's her
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: job she would even gaslight me in the office and
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: say i never told her to do something but i
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: would have actual physical proof of it in an email
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: or a message anyway hr asked me like 30 questions
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: about 90 were lies and after three months of an
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: investigation i got fired.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: What?
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: I didn't know if that's as bad as many other
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: bad hires. But since she's blocked me on all my
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: social media, including LinkedIn, people keep sharing her posts with me.
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: And it's her complaining about how awful I was and
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: that she had to hide in her car and cry
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: from me yelling at her, which again, I never did.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: She posted on TikTok about how horrible her boss was.
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: And of course, this was her first job. And a
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: lot of people in the company knew her boss was me. Anyways,
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: that's my story.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: How old is this person?
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: She's now, like, I think, like, the person who's writing this? No.
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: Like, the intern? The person that was causing all the
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: drama for her.
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: I think she sounds pretty young.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: I was about to say. It sounds like high school
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: drama that she brought into the workplace. She's just ridiculous.
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: And she, the lady who's telling the story, must be
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: older because she was married. She had a separation from
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: her marriage. I think now she has, like, a really
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: high up position in a different company, but... She had
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: an intern working for her. So this person had to
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: be college. Okay. Right out of college.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: That makes sense then. That's crazy.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: I just like gave her an opportunity.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Wow.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: I guess a lot of people, you know, bring a
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: lot of drama and all that kind of stuff into
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: their workplace.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: But that's... I guess being jealous of a co-worker.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: It's horrible to have bad things said about you that
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: aren't true.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: But then like saying that she was.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Doing things at, like, non-company events. Yeah.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Because I have to do. And bringing it to HR.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. It just, it's so dramatic.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I think it was.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: I feel bad for her.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: And the biggest thing for me is if it's, all
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: of it's not true.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Right? Yeah.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: To have that said about you and then have someone.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: And then have someone go on TikTok and post about you?
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, apparently. How bored do you have to be to
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: come up with all of these fake scenarios, too?
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: Like, post about him on LinkedIn. Like, if I'm a future, like,
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: employer and I see her posting about her previous, like, hire.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: I actually want to bet that a social media screen
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: on that particular person probably would have shown, like.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Most definitely.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Most definitely.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Crazy stuff. Bad stuff.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Like, maybe not a great post.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: It kind of reminded me of Mean Girls, like, when
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: they have, like, the book that they write in.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: And it's, like, the burn book.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: Literally, yeah.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: The bad hire book.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: We should absolutely.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Do that social media screen, at least for, like, at
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: least for senior people. But it seems like it might
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: be more effective for young people to make sure they
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: even know how to operate on social media and complete.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: Gas lighters on there I feel like social media is
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: sometimes even more telling in modern day than like a
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: background check sometimes too because like that's where people's lives
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: are they put everything on there and like there are
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: a lot of things that you know they might not
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: have gotten like a record for but they still could
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: be doing yeah I think yeah you could.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Do so much damage to someone or a company on
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: social media you know the background check and the criminal
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: records are important as well but it's this crazy town
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: yeah All right.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: This one's from Reddit. So this one's a kind of
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: short story. All right. So I was a hiring manager
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: at a Dunkin Donuts and I had a guy submit
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: an application and he had listed that he was a felon.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: I briefly asked him about it. I really don't care.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: Tons of felons work here. And he told me that
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: he had two counts of grand larceny from stealing from
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: his previous jobs. His most recent job was at another.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Dunkin' Donuts.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: No, you're saying he said in advance?
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: Yes. Okay. So he said he had two counts of
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: grand larceny, but it was from stealing from previous jobs.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: His previous job was at Dunkin' Donuts. So he's going
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: to apply for another Dunkin' Donuts.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, my.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: And he said that he was bragging about how many
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: times he got away with it before getting caught. Needless
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: to say, he was not fit for the position.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. That really got me. I don't care. Lots
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: of felons work here. You fit right in. Yeah.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: I don't really care. But also, why would he just
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: go to another Dunkin' Donuts? Like, change up where you're
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: going to steal from.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: That is funny. What is it about the Dunkin' Donuts?
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: What is it she works there so bad?
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: Is he just stealing the cash or is he stealing
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: the product?
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Like, we tend to ask. He really
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: wanted to sneak peek at the seasonal stuff. Yeah.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Oh, my goodness.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: Now, this is also from Reddit. This is from somebody
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: who's worked in recruiting and HR for a very long time.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: So it's kind of a list of their bad hires
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: in one post. So this is a lot of different things.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: But they're kind of short.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they are. So it says, oh.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Just kind of some bullet point.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Which, if you've had this many bad hires, you
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: start to wonder, should I still be doing recruiting?
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I know it's tough work. It's super
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: hard work.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: It is, yeah.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: And it can be incredibly rewarding sometimes.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Like when you put somebody in the right job.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: In the right company and they just crush it.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: That's got to feel good. And if you look across
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: a company you've been doing business with, you can see
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: kind of like you're recruiting DNA everywhere.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I've really done a good job. You can feel good
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: about that. Yeah. But, you know, you also, if you
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: do it a lot, you stack up some misses.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah. This one, I think, was full of misses.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I like this person was like, Let me just give
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: it all to you. Let me just give you some misses.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: So he says, oh boy, where to start? Most of
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: these stories are early in my career, but I've had,
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: bullet point, a candidate on trial for the murder of
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: his wife. A best-selling author slash medical doctor, breast surgeon,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: who tried to run over a police officer.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: We're starting off strong here.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: Multiple people show up drunk or under the influence. Had
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: one guy who tried to fight the operations manager after
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: feeling disrespected by the manager's inquiries to his shaky work history.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Had a lawyer try to.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: So that had to have been... That had to have been, like,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: early in the process.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Like, because they're asking about his work history. So you're
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: talking about, like, week one.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Like, what have you done to him?
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: He does don't ask me. I fight, you know, fighters.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: You don't want to know.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Don't ask me about my work history. I'll throw it down.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: He said none yet on his resume.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: Had a lawyer try to sue me and bill a
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: client for... A bill a client for time spent on
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: an interview because he was pissed that he didn't get
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: the job. Once we explained the billables to his company,
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: they dropped him like a fly. A lady once presumably
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: soiled herself in a small interview room with me.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: I had a woman.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: The life of a recruiter.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: Had a woman of color tell me I couldn't understand
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: diversity because I'm a white guy. Troves of candidates that
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: are terrible in interviews, bad on paper, etc. Try to
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: offload the rejection onto falsities. Sorry.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: No, ma'am.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: It's not that you are an older person. I had
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: no idea because we only spoke on the phone and
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: you never revealed any identifying information. But yes, please keep
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: telling me in the screening call that we won't hire
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: you because we are ageist and another you won't understand
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: because you look young.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: Had a greasy looking guy once tell me my colleague
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: was hot when she left to use the bathroom. Oh,
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: there was this one guy who stole a projector on
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: his way out of the building. I'll be taking that.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Thank you. I need one of these for Sundays. I
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: need to watch the game on one of these.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: I can't believe he, this is, I'm like, he still
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: has one more, or two more. Had a former cop
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: apply to a security job to find out he was
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: forced out of the force due to domestic violence, drugs,
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: and oh yeah, he's a sex offender. Maybe a children's
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: hospital isn't the best place to apply for it.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Oh my God.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Well, that's true. We see that all the time.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: People are applying somewhere, we do their background check, and
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: you're like, they're trying to work where?
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: At a school.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Right. At a children's hospital.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: And you're just like, wow, I'm glad these people do
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: background checks.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: This one was, I was offered sexual favors from candidates,
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: men and women.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Oh. Okay.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: And so his last line is, so many more. These
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: are just the ones that come to mind.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I wonder how many recruiters are listening to that list going.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: No way.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: I just haven't experienced that before.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: And they're just like, who's reading the Reddit thread going, oh,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: that was me.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: Somebody replied to him and said, Jesus Christ, are you
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: working for a McDonald's? Are you recruiting for McDonald's?
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Maybe. All right. This is my last story.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Good people. I mean, yeah, everybody's got good people.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: This is my last story for this episode. But the
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: candidate submitted a take home test by email. And they
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: forgot to extract the text of the email reply chain
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: with his buddy in which if you scroll far enough,
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: you could see, A, their buddy helped them with the test. Actually,
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: the buddy did most of it. And B, the two
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: of them weighing up on the finer points of a
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: drug deal they were participating in.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: No way.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: I guess people don't understand, like, the reply all and, like,
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: the forward.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: I guess it was forward. They had this big, long conversation.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: He's like, hey, check these questions out. And then he
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: forwards the whole thing.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: Also, like, think about talking about it.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: No, I've gotten, like, some forwards where, like, people didn't.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: How are you not double checking though? Especially for something
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: like that. Yeah.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: I almost never hit reply all people. I think I
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: aggravate people.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Let me make sure they don't see my drug deal.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Who talks about a drug deal on email though?
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: I know. Like text about it.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: Like you use something else.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Keep that in your text message. Literally.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Keep it anywhere.
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• 25:47
  Speaker 2: So Emma, what do you have?
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: I'm excited for Emma's.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: This one is a little long, so I'm going to
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: start with it. It's from Reddit.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: All right, here we go. Let's see if I can
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: keep this PG for the listeners out there.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, keep it PG for sure.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: I'm going to try to modify some things. All right.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: I was the office coordinator for a large staffing agency
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: between 2004 and 2006. So this was a long time ago.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: My office was unique in that it was situated on
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: a client side in a modular building. Our office only
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: staffed for this one client, but we had 225 to
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: 250 employees at our client site. Every spring, the client
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: would hire approximately 10 to 12 people from our pool
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: of people. This was a great opportunity for people that
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: had little to no previous experience or a less than
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: stellar work history to get a foot in the door
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: and an opportunity to advance to a job with great
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: pay benefits, etc.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Of course, you also got some of the scummiest people
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: walking through your door looking for work.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's so bad that they said that.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: I know, I know.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: I can't believe they said that.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: Our biggest disqualifying factors were people, like, were felons, sexual
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: background checks.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: Sexual background checks?
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: That's what he says on here. I'm assuming that's what
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: he means.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: All right, so first, let's not suggest that all felons
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: are unemployable.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Because they absolutely are, but okay.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm assuming that's what he meant.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Because that's the people, a lot of those people need
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: those jobs to get back into the workforce and get
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: great pay and benefits.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Another thing is testing positive for a controlled substance and
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: recent violent crimes. We also tended to stay away from
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: people that had worked heavy manufacturing, doing repetitive, stressful work
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: for a long period of time.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: I was second in command of our branch office and
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: reported directly to the branch manager. We'll call her Mandy.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, Mandy's a made-up name.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Mandy was a very interesting woman, about 40 to 45
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: years old. The best way to describe Mandy was... She
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: was a little crazy.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: And she reads the story and tries to reword it.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I could reword that. I'll just
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: keep it out. She was a little crazy.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Mandy absolutely loved me and treated me like I was
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: her golden child. I was in charge when Mandy was
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: absent and all the shift leads would call me when
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: they had a problem. We had an employee. I will
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: call him Fred. Fred lived in a weekly rate hotel.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: That was a dump right down the street from his
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  Speaker 3: favorite bar, which I will call Minnie's. Fred worked on
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: one of the day shifts that ran 6 a.m. to
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: 6 p.m. And from... Hold on. I can't keep up.
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  Speaker 3: The story is so long.
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  Speaker 4: It is a long story.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. This is just little details about where he lived
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  Speaker 3: and everything that has really nothing to do with this.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: That has really nothing to do with the story. He's
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: in a motel. Yeah, he's in a motel, whatever. Near
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: the bar. Lots of setup in this. Yeah.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: People love to get details.
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  Speaker 3: I love the detail though. I really love it. It
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: helps me paint the picture. Look, he knows his eyes.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Fred had started off as a decent employee, but his
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: attendance started slipping. As he was calling in sick, Fred
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: was of the notion that he was going to work
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: just enough to be able to earn himself enough money
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: to be able to drink and pay weekly rent.
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  Speaker 2: And no more.
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  Speaker 3: Fred had been counseled repeatedly by myself and finally the
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: branch manager on his attendance. He was on his last
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: warning and was informed that any more attendance violations in
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: the next 30 days would be met with termination. Three
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: days later, Fred comes into my office hysterical that his
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: mother was in the at The town next over had
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: a stroke and was dying in the hospital. He really
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: needed to be with her. I grant him a one-day
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: approved absence as long as he is going to be
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: with his mother at the hospital. One day.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: I was really generous when I let him have a day.
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  Speaker 4: He said as long as he's going to be at
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: the hospital with his mother because God forbid he go
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: to Minnie's.
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  Speaker 3: He thanks me profusely and I call him a cab.
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  Speaker 3: When Mandy comes into the office, I inform her of
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: the situation. She is going to wait. about an hour,
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: and then go down to Minnie's to see if he's there.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Half an hour after I spoke with Mandy, the office
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: receives a call. It's from Fred's sister. Her and their
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: mother had been doing some shopping downtown and her mother
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: stepped out in front of a car and got hit.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Her mother is in bad shape. They're airlifting her to
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: a trauma hospital. I take her name and number and
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: will have Fred give her a call. I call down
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: to Minnie's and ask the bartender if Fred is there.
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  Speaker 4: It is an emergency.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: They put Fred on the phone. I relay the information
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: from his sister without mentioning anything about his absence. Like,
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: not even going to bring it up. Not even going
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: to bring it up.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Just too bad a time to bring it up. Yeah.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Fred then blows up on me via the phone about
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: how dare I call him at Minnie's. He informs me
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: that he doesn't care if his mom's in critical condition.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: How dare I ruin the sanctity of minis by calling him.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: What is so sluggish?
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: And then inform him that he is fired. Don't bother
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: coming to work tomorrow. And then hung up the phone.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: I then informed the branch manager of this. And she
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: laughs and says, take all your things, like everything. It's fine.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: And she is glad she doesn't have to terminate him now.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Like she's glad she didn't have to be the one
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: to do it. Yeah. I call and have the customer
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: deactivate his access card and I enter his termination notes
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: in the employee database. 20 minutes later, a cab pulls
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: up and Fred jumps out and comes running into our
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: office and starts screaming at me from the entrance to
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: the building while walking towards my office. Mandy hears the
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: commotion and grabs him and pulls him into her office
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: and plops him down in a chair. The conversation ends
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: with him saying, F you, I don't work for you.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: I work for the client, whatever, blah, blah, blah. He
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: then storms out of the office. We look out and
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: see him try to use his access card in the
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: gate to gain entry to the factory. When it doesn't work,
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: he begins kicking the gate. At that point, I call
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: 911 and report an aggressive, drunk ex-employee attempting to break
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: into a secure facility.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: From the sanctity of Millie's to you.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: Millie's.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Fred walks around to the front of the client and
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: starts banging and kicking on their locked front glass door,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: demanding to be let in. I call the receptionist and
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: inform her that the police are on the way. He
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: ends up kicking their glass window and spider webbing it
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: before being tased by the police. Like smashing. Oh, I see.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Taser event of the show.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Our client ended up having, having him banned from the
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: property and press charges on him. Whatever. Three days later,
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: I get a call from Fred asking me as sweet
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: as pie. If he can have another chance at his job.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: I had to inform him that even if I was willing,
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: which I was not, He had acted in such a
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: way that the client had him banned from their property.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: They were so terrified of him, my hands were tied.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: He thanked me for my time and hung up. And
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: then this is how it ends. Get ready.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's crazier?
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: It's kind of dark. Two years later, Fred was killed
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: in a bar fight after being hit in the head
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: with a bar stool at Minnie's.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: Okay. And that is the end of that story.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: First of all, there's so much to unpack here.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: No more stories like that. That's just... You can't ruin
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: my day with.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Well, I wasn't trying to ruin your day. You wanted
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: the craziest story.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: First of all, I want to say that, like, I
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: don't want to say it caught karma, but he really
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: spoke his mother being in the hospital into existence pretty
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: much by lying about her. I know.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: There's so much to unpack here, the way that he.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: There's so much detail in that story. Yeah.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: And then the sanctity of Minnie's literally ended up being
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: his death.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: You should think it's real that it's, like, so Minnie.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: How dare you call me at Minnie's.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: Right? That's crazy.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: That's pretty crazy.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: I think about that when I hear that story, I
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: think about being a recruiter.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: And an operation like that when you've got so many people.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: One client, I think they said they had 250 people
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: on one client. And just all the stuff you have
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: to deal with, right? Just all the emergencies from the
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: people that you hired. And most of the time those
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: are like really high pressure placements. Got to have the people.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: The people are hard to find. And so, you know,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: you end up sometimes not getting the greatest. You absolutely
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: get some people that you're going to have challenges with.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: And so, you know, your life every day is, you know,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: you wake up and wonder what emergency am I going
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: to deal with on somebody at a place, at a
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: client's place. Yeah. And it's always tough because think about
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: the pressure of people. of the recruiter of like that
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: one hired to something so bad.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Lose the account. Now we're going to lose not just
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: the one position, but the whole thing.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: All the placements as, as they switch. So I don't know.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: It's very, very, very tough.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: All right. That, that I, I, that's gotta be it
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: for today.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Cause I'm, I got their one story.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: No, please tell me you have something.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: That's, you have a light.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: I'll have better. I got, I'll have better ones next time.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Funny one. All right, so there was some short comment
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: made on what?
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: Yes, TikTok. This one actually might be.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: We shouldn't end on that because it's boring.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but at least it's not like death.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: I guess.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: Got killed in a bar fight. All right. This one
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: was submitted to us or commented on our TikTok page
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: by Judgmental Barbie. And she said, hired a 16-year-old for
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: a front desk position at a hotel. First day, late
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: by 10 minutes due to the bus. Okay, that's valid.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: Second day, late 30 minutes due to period cramps. I
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: get it. Being a woman can have its moments. Third day,
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: late one hour because she didn't want to come. Walked
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: over to HR and sent her packing.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Day three? Day three is a magic day. It is.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: It is, yeah.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Guaranteed firings happen on day three.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: But that's all she had to say.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Three is a magic number. Yep.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you for that.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: Judgmental Barbie, thank you. Appreciate your comment. Judgmental Barbie.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: All right, that's going to do it for this episode
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: of The Bad Hire. Big thanks to everyone. We have
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: a couple submissions in there. Big thanks to that. And
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: we look forward to more coming in as more people
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: submit on our website. We've got that $ 10, 000 contest running.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: So if you've got a really bad hire story that
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: you'd like to tell, we'd love to hear it. We'd
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: love to read it. We're going to have some cool
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: ways to submit online at our website, thebadhire.com. And I
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: think we're going to even experiment with some technology that
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: would let you tell the story and maybe we could
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: play someone doing it. And then, of course, if your
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: story is great enough and we like it, we'll ask
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: you to come on the show and hang out, be
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: a co-host for a couple episodes and read some other stories.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: It should be fun. So submit your story. We look
• 37:38
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• 37:40
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• 37:44
  Speaker 2: to grow the show, want people to listen. We think
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: it's fun. It's fun to do anyway. And share this
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: with a friend who might be in the space and
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: be hiring people. They've got their own stories to tell.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: We'll be back next time with more unbelievable stories that
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: prove sometimes the biggest risk to your business is the
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: person you just hired. Until next time, I'm Ken with
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Emma and Morgan. Thanks for listening, and we'll see you
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: next time on The Bad Hire.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Bye.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: Thank you, guys.
• 38:13
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• 38:15
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• 38:17
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• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Love to hear it.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: You can email me at ken at thebadhire.com or find
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: me on LinkedIn at Ken Monroe.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: And I'll see you next time.