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Vanished in Washington: The Search for Jonathan Hoang · Crime Night

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  Speaker 1: In a world where our phones track literally every single
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  Speaker 1: footstep we take, and you've got doorbell cameras watching every street.
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  Speaker 2: Corn right, and satellite's mapping out our daily commutes.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly, with all of that constant surveillance, how does a
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  Speaker 1: twenty one year old with the cognitive ability of an
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  Speaker 1: eight year old just vanish into thin air?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it completely defies our entire understanding of modern tracking.
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  Speaker 2: Yet that is exactly the paradox we're confronting today. We're
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  Speaker 2: digging through police statements, missing persons reports, digital logs, and
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  Speaker 2: this meticulously constructed family timeline just to unpack a mystery
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  Speaker 2: that is unfolding right now in Arlington, Washington.
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  Speaker 1: And our mission today is to sift through this deeply
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  Speaker 1: unsettling set of clues. You listening right now, you were
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  Speaker 1: stepping into a very active investigation. Absolutely, it's one where
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  Speaker 1: the authorities in the family are looking at the exact
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  Speaker 1: same puzzle pieces, but you know they're arriving at two
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  Speaker 1: entirely different realities.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is always so frustrating, It really is.
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  Speaker 1: So it begins in the hours just before dawn on
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  Speaker 1: March thirty first, twenty twenty five. Picture this the neighborhood
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  Speaker 1: is completely silent, the air is cold. John and Holmes
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  Speaker 1: slips out the front door of his family home and
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  Speaker 1: he leaves behind all his essentials. He takes no survival gear, nothing, literally,
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  Speaker 1: just the clothes on his back, his iPad, and his headphones.
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  Speaker 1: He steps into the dark and just disappears.
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  Speaker 2: And to really understand the gravity of that specific moment,
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  Speaker 2: we have to establish the context of Jonathan's cognitive profile,
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  Speaker 2: which is heavily detailed in.
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  Speaker 1: His medical file. Right, this is crucial.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so physically Jonathan is a twenty one year old adult,
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  Speaker 2: but psychological evaluations place his cognitive abilities at the level
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  Speaker 2: of like an eight or nine year old. Oh wow, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's on the autism spectrum. He lives this highly structured,
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  Speaker 2: very rigid life. He relies on absolute routine to just
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  Speaker 2: process reality, and he simply cannot independently care for himself
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  Speaker 2: over the long term.
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  Speaker 1: So let's unpack that cognitive reality for a second. Because
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan wandering out into the dark that morning, it's essentially
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  Speaker 1: like an eight year old child walking into a vast wilderness.
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly what it is. You know, no map, no supplies,
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  Speaker 1: and honestly, without the ability to comprehend the danger of
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  Speaker 1: the elements. It completely reframes those initial hours. He isn't
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  Speaker 1: an adult going for a walk. He is a highly
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  Speaker 1: vulnerable individual exposed to a world he just doesn't fully understand.
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  Speaker 2: And that vulnerability, it really sits at the core of
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  Speaker 2: the central conflict in these documents.
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  Speaker 1: We're looking at the police versus the family exactly.
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  Speaker 2: The police theory, which is based on their initial assessments,
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  Speaker 2: is that Jonathan left of his own accord. They see
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  Speaker 2: no signs of a struggle, no forced entry.
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  Speaker 1: But the family sees it totally differently.
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  Speaker 2: Right, the family, understanding his absolute reliance on safety and routine,
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  Speaker 2: they firmly believe that someone with influence over Jonathan lured him.
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  Speaker 1: Out of the house, because, I mean, why else with
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  Speaker 1: someone who thrives on routine? Just leave their stats And
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  Speaker 1: if you look at the family's timeline, it points us
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  Speaker 1: to the weeks prior.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, things in Jonathan's world were definitely shifting, right.
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  Speaker 1: There was this escalating tension, a real pressure cooker environment.
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  Speaker 2: Because his parents were attempting to gently, you introduce more
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  Speaker 2: independence into his life. They had enrolled him in some
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  Speaker 2: job training at a local goodwill store through.
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  Speaker 1: His school, which sounds great on paper.
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  Speaker 2: For a neurotypical young adult, sure, that's a standard milestone,
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  Speaker 2: But for someone whose neurological baseline requires absolute predictability, it
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  Speaker 2: is a seismic disruption.
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  Speaker 1: Oh. I can only imagine the.
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  Speaker 2: Sensory overload of a new environment, new faces, changing expectations.
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  Speaker 2: It's immense.
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  Speaker 1: It's basically a complete rewiring of his daily operating system exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And his behavior in the files clearly signals severe distress.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he actively resisted the change out of four
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  Speaker 2: scheduled training sessions at Goodwill. He called in sick to
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  Speaker 2: two of them.
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  Speaker 1: He was retreating, yeah, pulling back.
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  Speaker 2: And the night before he vanished, he explicitly told his
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  Speaker 2: dad that he felt unwell and did not want to
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  Speaker 2: go to school the next day.
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  Speaker 1: So the stress was absolutely compounding. And if we look
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  Speaker 1: at the morning he leaves. The very first major physical
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  Speaker 1: clue documented in the search and rescue reports is the central.
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  Speaker 2: The canine units.
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  Speaker 1: So canine units are brought in, the dogs pick up
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan sent leading down the hill from the family's home,
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  Speaker 1: and picture the atmosphere of this cul de sac. It's
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  Speaker 1: very quiet, Yeah, quiet homes all around cold pavement beneath
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  Speaker 1: your feet, and right there at the bottom of the hill,
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  Speaker 1: the invisible thread tying Jonathan to his home just snaps.
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  Speaker 2: The dogs completely stop.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the family believes this abrupt end means he
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  Speaker 1: must have gotten into a waiting.
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  Speaker 2: Car, which is a very logical conclusion for them to make.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, I have to push back on this
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  Speaker 1: interpretation just a bit, because we look at missing person's
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  Speaker 1: cases all the time. Sent dogs are incredibly useful, but
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  Speaker 1: they aren't perfect machines.
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  Speaker 2: Oh right, definitely not. Environmental factors play.
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  Speaker 1: Huge role exactly. And given that the police reports note
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  Speaker 1: literally zero physical proof of a vehicle in that cul
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  Speaker 1: de sac, like no tire tracks, no security footage of headlights,
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  Speaker 1: no witness sightings. How reliable is an abrupt end to
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  Speaker 1: a centrail.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it is a subjective piece of evidence. But to
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  Speaker 2: understand its weight, we kind of have to look at
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  Speaker 2: the actual mechanics of scent tracking.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, break that down for us.
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  Speaker 2: So a trained canine is following a microscopic trail of
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  Speaker 2: what we call skin rafts. They are these tiny skin
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  Speaker 2: cells that humans shed at a rate of like thousands
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  Speaker 2: per minute.
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  Speaker 1: Thousands per minute.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, we're constantly shedding them, and these cells carry
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  Speaker 2: our unique scent. Now, factors like wind or morning do
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  Speaker 2: or just time passing can absolutely degrade that molecular.
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  Speaker 1: Trail right washes away or blows away.
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  Speaker 2: But typically when a trail degrades naturally like that, the
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  Speaker 2: dogs start circling. They try to reacquire the drifting scent cone.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I see, they don't just stop cold, right.
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  Speaker 2: An abrupt dead stop on dry pavement often indicates the
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  Speaker 2: person physically left the ground, which means they ceased shutting
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  Speaker 2: those skin rafts onto the path.
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  Speaker 1: So the absence of a trail strongly implies he was elevated,
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  Speaker 1: likely inside a vehicle.
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  Speaker 2: That is the biological logic the family relies on. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, as you pointed out, it is still circumstantial.
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  Speaker 1: Right without a tire track, it's just a theory.
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  Speaker 2: And this vacuum of concrete physical evidence a missing car,
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  Speaker 2: a missing tire tracks, that is precisely what creates the
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  Speaker 2: impasse between the two sides. Yeah, the police look at
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  Speaker 2: the cul de sac and they see a lack of
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  Speaker 2: proof that a crime occurred. But the family looks at
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  Speaker 2: the exact same pavement and sees the location their son
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  Speaker 2: was intercepted.
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  Speaker 1: Man, Well, if he didn't leave physical tracks in the
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  Speaker 1: cul de sac, the only other place to look for
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  Speaker 1: a trail is in the cloud.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, the digital footprint.
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  Speaker 1: Let's shift to that because the case files reveal a
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  Speaker 1: massive change in how Jonathan interacted with technology. Just a
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  Speaker 1: few weeks before he vanished right.
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  Speaker 2: To facilitate that job training at Goodwill, we talked about
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  Speaker 2: his parents actually remove the strict secure party restrictions on
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  Speaker 2: his ample.
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  Speaker 1: Devices, which makes sense they wanted him to communicate.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Prior to this, his iPad and iPhone were basically
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  Speaker 2: walled gardens. He could only message immediate family members. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: but by dropping those settings he could communicate with a supervisor.
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  Speaker 2: But the flip side is it fundamentally changed his digital exposure,
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  Speaker 2: meaning he.
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  Speaker 1: Could suddenly send and receive messages from anyone on the Internet.
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  Speaker 2: Anyone we know for a fact. He texted his Goodwill supervisor,
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  Speaker 2: and he even sent a photo of his state ID
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  Speaker 2: to a prejudicator, which.
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  Speaker 1: Opens up a truly terrifying vulnerability. I mean, if he
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  Speaker 1: is overwhelmed by the real world and retreating, the digital
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  Speaker 1: world suddenly has its doors wide open.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Someone could easily slip through that newly opened digital door
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  Speaker 1: and initiate contact without the parents ever even knowing.
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  Speaker 2: And that possibility makes the iPad he took with him
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  Speaker 2: that morning the most critical artifact of this entire investigation.
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  Speaker 1: Because it's the one thing he took.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, the initial data shows the device disconnected from
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  Speaker 2: the home Wi Fi when Jonason walked out the door.
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  Speaker 2: It goes entirely dark, just off the grid, But the
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  Speaker 2: family's communication logs with Apple Support document this major breakthrough
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  Speaker 2: three days after he disappeared. Apple Support confirms that on
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  Speaker 2: April second, the iPad connected to a Wi Fi network
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  Speaker 2: and navigated to the app store.
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  Speaker 1: Wait three days later, three days In missing persons cases,
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  Speaker 1: a ping three days out is massive. I mean it
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  Speaker 1: implies he is alive, or at the very least his
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  Speaker 1: device is actively being used. Yes, And you know the
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  Speaker 1: mechanics of this. When an iPad connects to Wi Fi,
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  Speaker 1: it logs the router's am mass address and references Apple's
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  Speaker 1: massive database to geolocate the device.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly how it works.
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  Speaker 1: So the location data exists, that's right there. You just
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  Speaker 1: get the location and you go find him. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't happen, does it?
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  Speaker 2: No, it doesn't. Instead, they hit a legal mechanism that's
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  Speaker 2: designed to protect us, but which in this specific context
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  Speaker 2: completely paralyzes the search.
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  Speaker 1: The bureaucracy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Apple's privacy policies strictly prevent them from handing over
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  Speaker 2: the geographic location of that Wi Fi ping to a
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  Speaker 2: civilian without a warrant from law enforcement.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so the police just need to get a warrant.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the Snahomish County Sheriff's office maintains that because they
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  Speaker 2: see no evidence of foul play, no blood, no struggle,
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  Speaker 2: no ransom demand, they have no legal basis to request
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  Speaker 2: that warrant from a judge.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, just put yourself in the parents shoes
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  Speaker 1: for a second. You listening to this, imagine that you
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  Speaker 1: know your son's digital lifeline just lit up.
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  Speaker 2: It's agonizing.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the exact coordinates are sitting on a server somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: It is literally like staring at a locked digital vault.
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  Speaker 1: You can hear the alarm ringing inside. You know the
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  Speaker 1: answers to saving your son are in there, but law
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  Speaker 1: enforcement refuses to demand the combination. It's a nightmare. How
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  Speaker 1: does the legal framework actually justify this gap. How does
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  Speaker 1: digital privacy law hamstring an emergency response.
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  Speaker 2: Like this, Well, we have to look objectively at the
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  Speaker 2: Fourth Amendment and the burden of probable cause. The law
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  Speaker 2: is strictly engineered to prevent unwarranted government surveillance, right right.
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  Speaker 2: A judge cannot legally sign a warrant to track a
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  Speaker 2: citizen's device unless law enforcement demonstrates probable cause that a
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  Speaker 2: crime has been committed. But he's missing, Yes, but because
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  Speaker 2: Jonathan is legally an adult, the police categorize him as
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  Speaker 2: a voluntary missing adult. The legal framework simply isn't calibrated
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  Speaker 2: for the nuance of cognitive dissonance, so.
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  Speaker 1: It treats a twenty one year old with the mind
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  Speaker 1: of an eight year old exactly the same as like
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  Speaker 1: a forty year old executive who just decides to walk
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  Speaker 1: away from his life.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. It is a completely binary system. It demands proof
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  Speaker 2: of a crime, and without it, those privacy protections remain impenetrable.
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  Speaker 1: Fortresses, regardless of the family's desperation or the individual's mental capacity.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, the family is locked out by the very law
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  Speaker 2: is meant to protect citizens.
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  Speaker 1: It's just wild. But they didn't stop right, They keep
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  Speaker 1: investigating on their own, and then almost three months later,
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  Speaker 1: on June twenty third, this piece of surveillance footage emerges
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  Speaker 1: from a city over forty miles.
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  Speaker 2: Away, Kirkland, Washington.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, tell us about this video.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a ring camera video and it captures a
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  Speaker 2: man walking in the dead of night, somewhere between ten
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  Speaker 2: point thirty and eleven point zero four pm. The glow
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  Speaker 2: of the porch light illuminates someone who matches Jonathan's physical description.
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  Speaker 2: But what really convinces the family are the microbehaviors.
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  Speaker 1: Right, the specific movements.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the man in the footage is exhibiting specific vocal
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  Speaker 2: stems and hand motions.
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  Speaker 1: Let's clarify that term for a moment for anyone who
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  Speaker 1: might not know. When we say stems, we are talking
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  Speaker 1: about self stimulatory behaviors, right.
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  Speaker 2: Stimming refers to repetitive physical movements or sounds that neurodivergent
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  Speaker 2: individuals often use to self soothe.
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  Speaker 1: Look like rocking or hand flowering.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly when they are feeling overwhelmed or trying to process
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  Speaker 2: complex environments. These repetitive motions help regulate their nervous system, and.
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  Speaker 1: The family saw this in the video.
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  Speaker 2: They recognize these exact specific movement patterns in the video,
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  Speaker 2: alongside clothing that matches unaccounted for items missing from Jonathan's closet.
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  Speaker 1: That is huge, But it's the location of this camera
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  Speaker 1: that takes this from a potential sighting to a deeply
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  Speaker 1: tragic theory. It really does, because this isn't just a
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  Speaker 1: random street. The surveillance camera is mounted on a house
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  Speaker 1: on a street called one hundred and fourteenth Lane.
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  Speaker 2: And Jonathan's actual comb the one he vanished from, is
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  Speaker 2: located on one hundred and fourteenth Drive.
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  Speaker 1: But here's where it gets really interesting. It goes way
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  Speaker 1: beyond just the street number. The Krikland house features two
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  Speaker 1: faux rock facade columns framing the front door. Right. These
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  Speaker 1: columns are identical, and I mean literally identical to the
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  Speaker 1: faux stone columns on the front of Jonathan's actual home
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  Speaker 1: in Arlington.
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  Speaker 2: It's chilling, and to grasp the significance of this, we
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  Speaker 2: really need to dive into the cognitive psychology of how
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  Speaker 2: autism and spatial mapping intersect.
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  Speaker 1: Please do, because it changes everything.
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  Speaker 2: So neurotypical individuals we navigate through abstract concepts. We use
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  Speaker 2: cardinal directions like north south, or distance measurements like mile.
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  Speaker 1: Right go three miles south exactly.
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  Speaker 2: But when a neurodivergent individual who relies on strict environmental
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  Speaker 2: patterns becomes lost or terrified, their brain often maps.
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  Speaker 1: Space differently, look for what's familiar.
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  Speaker 2: They aggressively seek out familiar visual anchors. They process the
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  Speaker 2: entire world through these concrete visual landmarks.
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  Speaker 1: It's exactly like a lost sailor navigating by the stars.
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  Speaker 2: That's a great way to put it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you are stranded in this vast, terrifying ocean
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  Speaker 1: of the unknown, and you aren't looking at a map.
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  Speaker 1: You are just scanning the sky for the constellation that
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  Speaker 1: points you home. He was looking for the numbers one
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  Speaker 1: to one, four, He was looking for the stone columns,
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  Speaker 1: and he found these tragic mimics of the safety he
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  Speaker 1: was searching for forty miles away.
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  Speaker 2: And because of that, the family views this not as
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  Speaker 2: a random wandering but as a desperate, confused attempt to
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  Speaker 2: map his way back to safety using the only visual
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  Speaker 2: tools his brain has access to.
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  Speaker 1: It is an incredible, compelling theory when you understand the
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  Speaker 1: psychology behind it.
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  Speaker 2: It really is.
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  Speaker 1: But we need to examine the police response here because this.
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  Speaker 1: Nohomish County Sheriff's Office entirely rejects this interpretation of the evidence.
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  Speaker 2: They do their stance is rooted strictly and verifiable procedural evidence.
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  Speaker 1: What does the official report say?
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  Speaker 2: Well, the official report state they have conducted extensive physical
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  Speaker 2: searches of the surrounding neighborhoods and found absolutely nothing. And furthermore,
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  Speaker 2: despite the family's communication with Apple Support, the police state
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  Speaker 2: they have independently contacted Apple, Microsoft, and Verizon and.
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  Speaker 1: What do they find?
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  Speaker 2: They assert that these companies show no official evidence of
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  Speaker 2: the April second iPad activity.
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  Speaker 1: Wait? What that is a massive discrepancy. I mean the
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  Speaker 1: family literally has the messages from the customer support reps,
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  Speaker 1: but the police are saying there is no official record.
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  Speaker 2: Well, law enforcement requires subpoena grade verification and that often
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  Speaker 2: looks very different from frontline customer support data I see
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  Speaker 2: from the police perspective. Without that ironclad data from the
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  Speaker 2: tech company's actual legal departments, there is no actionable evidence.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: And regarding the Kirkland video, they dismiss it as a look.
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  Speaker 1: Alike, even though they haven't identified who the man in
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  Speaker 1: the video actually is.
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  Speaker 2: Right, they have not publicly identified the individual in the footage.
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  Speaker 2: They simply maintain, based on their analysis that it is
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  Speaker 2: not Jonathan.
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  Speaker 1: That must be so infuriating for the parents.
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  Speaker 2: It is, but we kind of have to view this
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  Speaker 2: through the lens of municipal resource management too. Police departments
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  Speaker 2: operate on a triage system based on objective threat assessments.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, they only have so many resources.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly without a crime scene. Their operational protocol severely limits
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  Speaker 2: the resources they can legally and financially deploy. It isn't
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  Speaker 2: necessarily malice. It is just a very rigid adherence to
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  Speaker 2: procedural boundaries.
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  Speaker 1: But the reality is that those boundaries are burning precious time, absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: and that brings us to the ticking clock. In this case.
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  Speaker 1: The legal battle the family is fighting behind the scenes
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  Speaker 1: is coming to a head on Tuesday, August nineteenth.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is critical because Jonathan is legally an adult.
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  Speaker 2: His parents had to petition the courts for emergency guardianship
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  Speaker 2: immediately after he disappeared.
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  Speaker 1: To make decisions for him right.
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  Speaker 2: Without that legal status, they have absolutely no standing to
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  Speaker 2: access his medical records, speak to financial institutions, or advocate
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  Speaker 2: for him with private corporations like Apple.
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  Speaker 1: In the eyes of the law. They're just strangers to.
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  Speaker 2: His private data, exactly strangers.
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  Speaker 1: They've fought the system to get this guardianship extended twice,
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  Speaker 1: but the current extension expires on August nineteenth, and.
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  Speaker 2: When that deadline hits, they lose their legal power to
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  Speaker 2: advocate for their missing son.
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  Speaker 1: That is a terrifying precipice to be.
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  Speaker 2: On, which is why the files we are analyzing today
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  Speaker 2: are way more than just a historical case study. They
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  Speaker 2: represent an active, urgent situation. Yeah, if you're listening, you
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  Speaker 2: need to know exactly how to respond if you happen
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  Speaker 2: to spot a young man who fits Jonathan's description. The
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  Speaker 2: family and missing person's advocates have laid out very strict
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  Speaker 2: protocols for the pubblic.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's go over those. If you see him, do
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  Speaker 1: not leave him, keep him in your line of sight,
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  Speaker 1: Approach gently and simply ask are you Jonathan?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? Very gently?
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  Speaker 1: Then call nine one one immediately and clearly state to
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  Speaker 1: dispatch that this is a highly vulnerable missing person. You
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  Speaker 1: have to ensure they understand the cognitive urgency.
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  Speaker 2: And critically take a photo or a video of him
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  Speaker 2: safely in an investigation that's been completely paralyzed by a
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  Speaker 2: lack of verifiable proof. A clear photo is the single
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  Speaker 2: fastest way to cut through the bureaucratic red tape and
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  Speaker 2: actually compel action.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah, and there's a one hundred thousand dollars reward
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  Speaker 1: available through Crimestoppers. Information should be directed to this Nahomish
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  Speaker 1: County Shriff's tip line at four two five three eight
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  Speaker 1: eight three three nine three, or you can email it right,
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  Speaker 1: email it to tips at ochuck dot com, or submit
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  Speaker 1: it through Fine Jonathanwog dot com. That tip line again
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  Speaker 1: is four two five three eight eight three three nine three,
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  Speaker 1: and the website is Fine Jonathan Wog dot com w tash.
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  Speaker 2: Ong So to really synthesize everything we've looked at in
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  Speaker 2: these sources. Today, we are witnessing a catastrophic collision between
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  Speaker 2: the messy reality of neurodivergence and the binary, rigid rules
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  Speaker 2: of our legal system.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a total collision.
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  Speaker 2: It is a situation where the laws that we're designed
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  Speaker 2: to protect a citizen's privacy are currently acting as an
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  Speaker 2: impenetrable shield preventing a family from saving their own sun.
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  Speaker 1: It really leaves us confronting a deeply unsettling reality. To
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  Speaker 1: moll over long after we wrap up today. Definitely, as
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  Speaker 1: we live in an era of unprecedented digital surveillance. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: every doorbell has a high definition lens, every device has
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: a GPS chippinging satellites, and every digital interaction is cataloged
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  Speaker 1: in a server farm somewhere right.
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  Speaker 2: And given that inescapable invisible net of technology, how is
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  Speaker 2: it possible for a vulnerable young man with the mind
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  Speaker 2: of an eight year old to simply slip through the
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  Speaker 2: cracks and vanish into the dark.
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  Speaker 1: It's a question that challenges everything we assume about our
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  Speaker 1: modern safety nets. Thank you for joining us for this
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: deep dive. Keep your eyes open and look closely at
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: the world around you, because somewhere out there, a lost
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: sailor is still searching for the stars that will guide
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  Speaker 1: him home. We'll catch you next time.