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EP049 When Nations Fall: Epstein Files, Antichrist, and the Mystery of Iniquity - The New Testament Mysteries PT 2 · The Immutable Word

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Trump ran a platform that drew in thousands and thousands and thousands of Bible-believing
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Christians, or Christians, professing Christians, right?
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And there's a lot of people that are looking to Trump to save America.
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But what this has all revealed to me with this Epstein file thing is that there
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is evil that's several layers deep.
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And the Bible-believing Christian ought to know the difference.
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And there's a lot of Christians that are turning to Christian nationalism because of Trump and MAGA.
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And as a Bible-believing Christian, this is not our world.
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Welcome back to The Mutable Word. We are back for another episode.
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We've been covering the seven mysteries.
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We had covered the first four, which were the mystery of godliness,
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Christ in you, body of Christ, Israel's blindness.
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And perhaps we'll do a quick recap, Robert, here in just a few minutes.
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But this episode is going to cover the remaining three, which will be covering
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the rapture, mystery of iniquity, and Babylon the Great.
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So if you haven't listened to the previous episode, which is,
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or I am guessing again, episode 48, I think.
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Whatever the previous episode is, we did cover this in detail over the first four.
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Do you want to do a recap of this, Robert, of the previous four,
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just really quickly before we roll into the remaining three?
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Or how do you want to go about it? Yeah, actually, I wanted to ask you a question
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before we started, just because the last few days have been kind of significant in the political world.
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Wanted to get your thoughts on the Epstein files.
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My thoughts on the Epstein files. I wasn't really prepared for that question.
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Well, the reason I brought it up is just because I've been, there's a couple
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podcasts I've been listening to.
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And, you know, I'm not going to go into super, you know, any kind of detailed commentary on it.
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But I just want to know, because I know that we're going to have some listeners
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that are curious about what the thoughts are. And I do have a couple thoughts.
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I just wanted to kind of summarize a couple thoughts about it,
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and I think it might generate a little bit of a conversation.
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Only because I believe it's relevant to one of the mysteries we'll be talking about.
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It's the spirit of Antichrist and, I believe, the last one, the mystery Babylon. Oh, interesting.
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Okay. What I'll say is this, because I mean, you know, this show isn't dedicated to it.
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I really don't want to deep dive into it, to be honest with you.
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But I do want to, I want to encourage some of our listeners to listen if they're
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really interested and they want to get really deep in the weeds or get into
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the rabbit hole, or they just want to get some other Bible-believing stuff.
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Perspective about it. So one, if you want to get into the deep dive,
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if you really want to go down the rabbit hole and listen to all the conspiracies
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from a good Bible-believing perspective, right?
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I'm not going to tell you to run to some of these other podcasts that,
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you know, it may not be safe for the family, let's put it that way.
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But one is The Soul Trap. That's Brother Joel Tillis, Pastor Joel Tillis.
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He's actually done a series, I think of about two or three, they have one whole
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episode on just the Epstein files talking about some of the things that were
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found in the Epstein files.
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And then he has like two or three or four other episodes where they detail certain
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nuances that are connected or related to the Epstein files.
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So if you really want to get a lot of detail about, you know,
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and then again, this is from a Bible-believing King James dispensational point of view.
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Okay. This is not us, you know, recommending a channel that we,
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that I wouldn't listen to. Let's put it that way.
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Then the other one, which is more kind of a, of a high level commentary is,
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is Randy Keener's unmovable apologetics.
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They just did one this morning on the Epstein files. I think it's very appropriate.
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And the only reason, but somebody's probably listening to this.
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I'm like, what in the world, Robert, why are you bringing up Epstein files? Right.
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Right. And, and this is what, this is what my thought my head was,
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was number one, you know, we live in a post-truth generation.
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You know, everybody always says, well, you know, you're in a post-liberal generation
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or Christian, you know, post-modernist.
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I believe we live in a post-truth generation. People are not interested in the truth.
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And, you know, even Paul wrote to Timothy that in the latter days,
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you know, that these heresies and false doctrines and doctrines of devils would
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rise up and there would be kind of an influx of apostasy.
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Well, what leads to that? And I do believe we're kind of at a crossroads in
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our nation. I'm sure, Alan, you know, if you were to think in the last,
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six years, maybe even eight or nine years since 2016.
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I mean, wouldn't you agree that there's been like some really crazy upheavals
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in the political, cultural, ideological world that we live in as a Christian?
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Oh, yeah. I mean, I've really never seen anything like what we've seen in the
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last, you're right, 10 years, you know, 2016, especially 2020 on.
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And what we're seeing today. Nothing like it.
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I think I've mentioned before that I thought the 90s were pretty bad times under
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the Clinton. All the crazy stuff that happened.
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Yeah, but it doesn't hold a candle to what we're seeing today and have seen
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just in the last five or ten years. It's been rather extreme.
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What I was going to say about this is number one, why would a Christian I'm
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not saying you should have an unhealthy interest in it. That's not what I'm saying.
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I'm not even saying, you know, I don't want somebody to get,
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you know, obsessed with the Epstein files and try to dig into it.
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But why would it matter to a Bible-believing Christian? And this is what I was thinking.
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You know, the Bible says in Ephesians 5, verse 13, it says, but all things that
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are reproved are made manifest by the light, for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
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So, Ephesians 5, 13, Paul is writing, he says, look, manifest just means to be revealed.
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I believe it's the job of every Christian to know the difference between right and wrong.
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I believe it's important for us to be able to identify what is truth and what's a lie.
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Now, I'm not saying that you uncover all the conspiracy theories and things
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like that, but when you see, and this is why I was thinking about this.
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You know, for a long time, you know, they, you know, Trump was trying to deny,
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of course, he ran a platform saying that they were going to reveal what was
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going to be on the Epstein files.
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And then, then they started saying, well, there is no Epstein files.
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And then they said, well, there's no such thing as a list.
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And now all of a sudden you have millions of files that have been published
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and it's not even all of it.
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But so, you know, in everybody that, you know, Trump ran a platform that drew
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in thousands and thousands and thousands of Bible-believing Christians or Christians,
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professing Christians, right?
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And there's a lot of people that are looking to Trump to save America.
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Yep. And so, but what this is all revealed to me with this Epstein file thing
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is that there are, there is evil that are, that's several layers deep.
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And the Bible-believing Christian ought to know the difference.
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And there's a lot of Christians that are turning to Christian nationalism because of Trump and MAGA.
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And as a Bible-believing Christian, this is not our world.
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We're here, we're supposed to be as good law-abiding citizens as possible.
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We're supposed to obey the laws that be, but the Bible says in Acts chapter
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5, we ought to obey God rather than the men.
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Well, the Christian's job is to manifest and expose evil and darkness, right?
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Well, that's what that revelation is. So.
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You know, when you think about the things that are going on,
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and especially the whole context of the Epstein files, I mean,
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you're talking about sex trafficking, things that have been going on for decades.
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And then, you know, there's all kinds of leaders and people that have been implicated
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in it. People are losing their jobs and so forth.
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But I'm afraid that there's not going to be really any justice in this lifetime
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for the people that are involved in that junk.
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But as a Christian, you ought to know the difference. And if you're trying to
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hang your hat on Trump, I believe that you're going to usher in the spirit of
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the Antichrist and the one-world government and the one-world religion that
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I believe is going to ride on the coattails.
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Because this is really just the beginning of the destruction of America.
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America's been on a downward spiral for a long time, you know.
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But, you know, this is what I do know. the Bible says this, or Jesus Christ
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said this in Luke 17 too, he says that there's going to be offenses that come.
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But in verse two, he says, it were better for him that a millstone be hanged
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about his neck and cast into the sea than that he should offend one of these little ones.
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In God's, in his journal of justice,
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his ledger, the things that
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these people were involved in for decades and decades and decades
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as far as god was concerned they ought to have a rock hung
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around their neck and drop to the bottom of the sea yeah but we know in this
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life that these you know this justice isn't going to be served there's people
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going to probably lose their jobs probably people going to be humiliated social
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media wise but there's there's a lot of people that should have been arrested
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that are probably aren't going to get arrested as a result of this right,
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Yeah, unfortunately. And the reason—yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry.
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No, no, I was just agreeing with you. It's just unfortunate. But yes.
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So, one of the things the Bible says in Revelation 18, 11 through 13,
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it's after the destruction of the, you know, the whore of Babylon in Revelation 17 and 18.
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So that's the destruction, the post-destruction, and there's leaders that have
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been committing spiritual fornication, idolatry, with this one-world globalist religion.
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And the Bible says in verses 11 through 13 of Revelation 18,
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it says, And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her,
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for no man buyeth their merchandise any more.
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The merchandise of gold and silver, precious stones,
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and of pearls and fine linen, purple and silk and scarlet,
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and all thion wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels
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of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble, and cinnamon, and odors,
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and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and the fine flour,
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and wheat and beasts and sheep and horses and chariots.
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And then it says this, and slaves and souls of men.
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That means the merchandise that the whore of Babylon has been indulging in.
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You know, aside from all those riches and precious metals and precious jewels
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and stuff, in addition to all that are slaves and the souls of men.
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And if that doesn't describe exactly the kind of stuff that's related to this
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Epstein files. I don't know what is.
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But what the Bible tells us is that just because we eradicated chattel slavery
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after Civil War, and then prior to that, England did it,
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they had outlawed and made it illegal for slavery, doesn't mean that they eliminated
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slavery. Slavery still exists in this world.
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It's just a different type. And that means all the way through until Christ
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comes back, this kind of behavior is still going to exist.
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And, you know, the Bible also says in Psalm 94, verse 20, it says,
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Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law,
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saying that the throne of iniquity frames mischief by law.
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That's legislating morality. That's legislating wickedness. And that's why justice
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will never be served, because there's a throne of wickedness and iniquity that exists.
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You know, when we talk about this next mystery, especially the mystery of the
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Antichrist, you know, the mystery of iniquity, he says it was working in the
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first century when Paul was writing that.
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And when Jesus Christ was tempted by the devil, he was tempted by the devil.
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The devil offered him all the kingdoms of the earth. He said, they're mine.
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And the Bible says in 2 Corinthians 4.4 that he's the God of this world.
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You know what I mean? So anyway, I was just thinking about all this stuff with
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the Epstein files. You know, we're not covering it.
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You can literally, if you understood what was revealed in those files and the
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names that were popped up in those files, you're talking about that you could
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cover 50 years worth of stuff that's happened.
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This is by far probably the greatest conspiracy of our generation.
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And I'm telling you, man, there's so much wickedness involved.
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It just shows us that the devil truly is the god of this world,
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and he's going to let his minions do exactly what he wants until he brings in this wicked,
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vile kingdom where he's going to rule and reign, call himself God, and be worshipped.
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And there's a lot of satanic stuff that was tied to this.
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And man, I just can't even believe. Anyway, I was just one to bring that up
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just because, you know, as a Bible believer, I would say, you know,
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I don't, you know, I wouldn't encourage anybody to delve into the.
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Nauseating details of the Epstein files, but I would say you better be cognizant of it.
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You should be, as a Bible believer, understand that the implication runs very
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deep in our government runs very deep at high levels of people that you're entrusting your liberty to.
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And as Bible believers, man, you better realize this world is not your home,
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and Trump is not your savior, and he's not going to save America.
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That he may be implicated, because I think his name showed up several thousand,
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almost 5,000 times in the Epstein files.
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So, regardless, it's a pretty wicked thing.
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Yeah, the whole thing is satanic. Like, I really haven't delved into it.
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Like, it's on the media, but you only get a small piece of it.
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And, of course, you know it's going to go really, really deep.
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And, you know, you're alluding to it.
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You said it. Is this people that we're entrusting our liberties to or we think
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that are going to come in and bring America back to where it was before,
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you know, making it a Christian nation?
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The thing is that as deep as this stuff goes, there is no party separating.
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Everybody's part of this, you know, they're probably part of this elite group.
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I know I'm getting to conspiracy land here a little bit, but I think there's a lot of merit to it.
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I believe there's a lot that can
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be said about it. And maybe this isn't a platform or episode, obviously.
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Well, I mean, it's a little bit related to this next mystery.
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I mean, honestly, because, you know, those conspiracies do exist.
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There was conspiracy to crucify Christ. There was a conspiracy to murder Paul.
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You know what I'm saying? There's conspiracies all throughout the Old Testament.
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You know, conspiracies exist. And, you know, the bottom line,
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you were kind of on the point there.
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It's not a right or left thing. It's an up or down thing.
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It's a righteousness versus wickedness thing.
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And Christians need to be able to discern that. You know, they think they're
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going to go to the voting booth and turn America back into what America started out in the 1700s.
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That is not the case. It's never, ever going to happen again.
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And you asked me about my thoughts, and I had some time to think about it,
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especially the things that you brought up, that all these people are in the
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same group, in the same bucket, usher in the end of Christ at the end of the day.
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And here's what's kind of twisted about it, too, is that they'll use people like Trump, okay?
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If you voted for him, whatever, whoever was, fine.
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You know, whatever that's closest to the ideals and the principles and values
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of a Christian, you vote for that party, right?
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But the point is, is that if there is anybody, I mean, especially the U.S., the U.S.
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Has to collapse at some point in time, right, to usher in a one-world government,
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to usher in the Antichrist.
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So, you have a huge group of people in this country that you need to get,
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you know, you need to get these people behind somebody to support something
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and blindly follow this person.
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What better way? I don't know. I don't know. I've never heard a clear testimony
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of salvation from Trump.
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So I don't, I have my doubts that he's actually saved. I pray that he's saved.
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I pray that he gets saved, you know, but at the end of the day,
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he carries a lot of, you know, secular and humanistic and liberal baggage with him.
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He, he, he wasn't a right-wing conservative his entire career,
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you know, and, and the bottom line is, is, you know, he doesn't see everything
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from a biblical, you know, point of view.
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He, I mean, he brought in, you know, he brought in that woman,
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I can't remember her name is, White something, you know, she's a charismatic,
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you know, leader that believes in tongues and signs and visions and stuff.
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You know, he brings in Catholics. He's got a lot of Roman Catholics on his administration.
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So I honestly don't believe, now I know that there's a lot of implications.
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They talked about the three-letter agencies like CIA and all these other different
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groups that might be involved with the Epstein things, but Brother Tillis,
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he brings up a good point.
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He thinks it's a Jesuit conspiracy.
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That a lot of this is framing, is building the framework for Mystery Babylon
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to come into effect sometime in the future.
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And that could very well be the case because I'm telling you what,
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Roman Catholicism is knee deep.
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I mean, they are waist deep in government affairs. And that's something.
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They've been doing it for a thousand years. Yeah, they've got their tentacles in everything.
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And that's an interesting connection there, too. you were just talking about
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it, is Trump and the Vatican.
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And you could try to entangle that web or try to entangle that web.
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Yeah, because remember his first administration, he had a call,
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I think it was during the COVID stuff, and he was giving, and there's all these
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bishops that were praising him,
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saying that he's the one president, it's the greatest friend to the Vatican,
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because he was giving them millions of dollars of support.
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And he's always been like that. And he's very pro-Catholic. And a lot of the
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people on his administration are pro-Catholic.
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You know, we hear them, we think they're evangelical Christians.
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But when you come to find out, like, no, they're not.
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A lot of them have Catholic backgrounds. Yeah.
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If you look at the administration, their backgrounds, you know,
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they're pretty rooted in Catholicism.
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And the first, I can't remember her name, but the press secretary,
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she was an She was an apologetic student.
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Yeah, McEnany or whatever.
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Yeah, but she was trained in this stuff. All of them were. He was first vice
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president. Right, yeah. Was a Roman Catholic.
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The connections are there, but the thing I was trying to get to is I don't know.
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How do you get half the country gun-toting right-wing conservatives behind somebody?
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You got to get them in line somehow.
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Right, right. And he's been more involved in creating a two-state solution in
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Israel with Palestine and the Jews.
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You know, I mean, whether—I don't think he's the Antichrist,
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but I can tell you one thing.
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He's definitely setting the stage for the Antichrist to step on that stage.
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You know why, too. And it's not a left or right thing, you said it.
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It's an up and down thing, you know, right and wrong thing.
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You know, most Christians, American Christians especially, think it's the left
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that's going to bring in the Antichrist. It's the left-wing Democrat,
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you know, liberals that are going to bring in the one world government,
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not the other way around. And that's why I think it's so genius.
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I think this is why I think Satan is so crafty and a genius.
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You would use, who knows?
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It could be. Well, and you know, it's fair speeches.
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He wins them over. Works. It's not some kind of, you know, it's not a military overthrow.
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That's not the way it works. Win their hearts and minds, right?
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And they'll blindly follow. You know, the Laodicean church, the last church,
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basically the last representative church of the church age, which is an apostate
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church, is the church of Laodicea.
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Laodicea means rights of the people. Okay? That means everybody has a right except God.
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But if you notice, what was the delusion of that church?
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They say, oh, I'm rich and increased with goods and have need of nothing.
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Prosperity. That means the last church, in their perspective, is prosperous.
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It's not what we think, because here's the thing, when you read your Bible,
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what does persecution bring when it comes to the church? It brings growth.
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You saw there in Acts 8, verse 1, when Paul was persecuting the church,
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the church spread all throughout Asia into Europe.
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Because of persecution. The church multiplies when they're persecuted.
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But what's the one way to kill the church? Prosperity.
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Freedom. Yeah. Liberty. Yeah, comfort. And that's exactly, you see,
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the Laodicean church. It's comfortable.
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It's comfortable and rights to the people. Like, I have a right to,
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you know, carry my guns and drive my big old pickup truck.
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Well, because, you know, the average Christian, you know, back in the 90s thought,
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you know, we had all these prophecy conferences, oh, they're going to be bringing
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in, you know, guillotines and cutting your head off and, you know,
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putting 666 on your forehead and putting you in internment camps.
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That's what everybody thought, but that's not the case.
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What if it's, you know, you bring in a Christian nationalist president that
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makes Christianity the law,
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and forces people to accept Christ and have these big giant rock concerts,
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you know, as at halftime at a Super Bowl, you know, praising God and bringing
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America back to God this, you know, this anniversary, July, July 4th, what was it?
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It's 1776, so was that 300 years? 300 years.
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Or 200 years, is it? That was 300, right? I can't tell you. You know math is
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not good with me, but yeah, hundreds of years.
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But you see what I mean? It's like all this Christian nationalism.
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Yeah, it's pretty heavy. One of the things that Brother Keener mentioned on
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his podcast, he said, here's what's crazy.
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You have so many people that are so committed and loyal to Trump that what if
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in the revelation of these Epstein files, you actually had a recorded live video
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of Trump engaging in some perverted act?
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And people would say, oh, that's just AI. They would refuse to believe it's
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their precious right-wing Christian president. And that's the delusion.
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So, anyway, I mean, I know that's a deep concept, but I didn't want to bring it up.
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But then I started thinking, I was like, you know what? It actually kind of
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ties in to, you know, at least the mystery of iniquity and Babylon the Great, really, these last two.
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It's appropriate because the last three really covers, you know,
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the later half, the last days, and everything that's happening today pretty
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much leads into these things that you're going to cover as far as the final mysteries.
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But, oh, Paula White. That's her name. I guess with that being said,
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we can probably jump into it. But go ahead. I'm sorry.
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What were you going to say? Oh, Paula White is the lady that ministered.
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Oh, there you go. Paula White. Yeah.
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Yeah. She is a pill. Okay.
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Now it's a mystery. Anyways, so the mystery of iniquity. So,
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I mean, you know, we kind of set the stage a little bit talking about it,
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but the Bible, it's drawn from the passage in 2 Thessalonians 2, verse 7.
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It says, For the mystery of iniquity doth already work. That's what Paul says.
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It's already working, this mystery of iniquity.
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Only he who now letteth will let until he be taken out of the way.
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So, that let, it's similar to like you're playing tennis.
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Let is hinder. That's what it means. So, he that now hindereth will hinder until
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he be taken out of the way.
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So, this mystery describes, you know, the secret satanic working of evil that's
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been active since the apostles.
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And it culminates into the revelation of the Antichrist, where he steps out onto the world stage.
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So, because it's called the mystery of iniquity, it's actually a direct antithesis
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to the mystery of godliness, which is God manifest in the flesh.
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So, what do we conclude with that?
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Well, the mystery of iniquity must be the manifestation of the Antichrist in the flesh.
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That's what it is. But Paul says that, you know, that mystery of iniquity has
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been already in place. It's an act of force.
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It's a present spiritual reality that's been working through powers and signs
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and lying wonders all throughout the past 2,000 years of church history.
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But it says there's a restrainer, he who now letteth.
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So here's what a lot of people usually teach.
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They always teach that it's the Holy Spirit hindering the Antichrist.
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When the Holy Spirit's taken out of the way, then all of a sudden the Antichrist
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is now going to have power to reign. But that doesn't fit the passage.
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It doesn't fit the passage grammatically or contextually because the antecedent
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to the he is the man of sin.
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It talks about it in the previous verse.
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And it says, he who now letteth the man of sin until he's taken out of the way,
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then that wicked will be revealed.
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That wicked is going to be the beast. So we know that there's an Antichrist,
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there's a false prophet and there's the beast.
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There's a trinity, a false and evil trinity in the book of Revelation.
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So, what you find out is later on, whoever this Antichrist is,
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is going to be wounded or mortally wounded in a way that people are going to
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think that he was killed or he was killed.
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And then he's going to miraculously rise from the dead.
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And the Bible says that the devil will enter into him and he will be the devil incarnate.
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That's the beast. And, you know, that's where you see that last half of Daniel's
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70th week, which is 42 months, 1260 days, three and a half years, so forth and so on.
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Well, that, so that culmination of the wicked being revealed is the devil manifest in the flesh.
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He's going to sit in the temple, the Bible says in 2 Thessalonians.
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And 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 is the key passage, the key chapter for all this.
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You know, there's a lot in the Bible about the Antichrist. But this mystery
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of iniquity culminates.
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It concludes with the devil going into the rebuilt temple, sitting on the Holy
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of Holies, and declaring that he is God.
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Because it really comes down to what the devil's wanted since the beginning
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of his rebellion against God, and that is worship.
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He said in Isaiah, I will be like the Most High. So his desire since the beginning is worship.
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Matter of fact, remember when he was tempting Christ, he says,
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I want you to fall down and worship me.
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That's what he wants. He will eventually get that in the tribulation.
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Well, that's a process that he's been manipulating kingdoms and kings and these
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cultural and political ideologies that are so antithetical to the Bible.
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It's because it's the God of this world who's at work.
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And what he's doing is he's—this process is to eventually culminate in the devil
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himself incarnate in the flesh,
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going into the temple, and then sitting down and claiming to be God.
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And you know what's interesting in that 2 Thessalonians passage?
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The Bible says that he's going to sit there and above—and he's going to sit
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there and magnify himself above all that is called God.
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All that is called God. Well, what's called God? Well, you have Allah,
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you have, you know, you have Mary, you have all these false gods,
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the Hindu gods, you have Asian gods, you know, Buddhists, Hinduism,
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all these different religions have their idols and their gods.
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And the Bible says, when you look at 2 Thessalonians, that when the devil finally
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shows up in the flesh, this mystery of iniquity,
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the devil manifests in the flesh, he's going to resemble every single pagan
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religion's God, including Christianity.
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He's going to show up as Jesus Christ.
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So obviously, if you fail to understand this mystery of iniquity,
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the errors that are resultant to it are, you know, people start,
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they adopt Christian nationalism.
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They think, well, it's this positive thinking, America first.
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We're going to bring in the kingdom. We're going to make things right.
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We're going to eliminate abortion. We're going to do this. We're going to do
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that. You know what I mean?
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It's like, that's the mentality. It's this positive, you know,
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thinking about America is great.
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And it's no longer about the Bible. It's no longer about the truth.
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It's about what fits my political ideology. And unfortunately,
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there's a bunch of Christians out there that don't know their Bible.
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They have no idea what the mystery of iniquity is. They couldn't tell you two
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or three bullet points on the doctrine of the Antichrist,
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and they're going to be vulnerable to this strong delusion, because the Bible
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even says that it's going to be a delusion, and they're going to,
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because they, and you know what's interesting?
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Let me hear about the Bible, because it's actually, it's worded very,
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very, very specifically.
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I think, like I said, it's a great, great passage to read, 2 Thessalonians 2. Let me pull it up here.
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Yeah, while you're looking that up, and I don't want to throw you off track
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either, You mentioned something very important, is that they want to bring America
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back to where it was, but a lot of Christians don't know their history, right?
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And this American nationalism, or I'm sorry, this Christian nationalism,
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we were never there in the first place.
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Baptists, yeah. We were the ones persecuted as a result of it.
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If you look at Baptist history, you know, our Baptist forefathers would be rolling
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it over in their graves with the type of support or thinking that,
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like, we need to make America a Christian nation again. But anyways,
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that's kind of a side topic.
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No, I mean, it's absolutely right. And that's why Christian nationalism is wrong.
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It is absolutely biblical. biblical because what it does is it confuses the
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church-state relationship.
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Exactly. It merges it. Yep. So here's what the Bible says in 2 Thessalonians 2.
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It says, so verse 7, for the mystery of iniquity doth already work,
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only he who now letteth will let until he be taken out of the way.
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And then it says, then, verse 8, shall that wicked be revealed,
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whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth and shall destroy with
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the brightness of his coming.
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I don't want to, I'm going to get, I know I'm already going to go down like
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a thousand rabbit trails here, but, you know, he consumes them with the spirit of his mouth.
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That's the word of God. That shows you that the only weapon that we have against
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the spirit of iniquity and the spirit of Antichrist is the Bible.
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So, here's what it says in verse 9, even him whose coming is after the working
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of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders.
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Now, that's important because that means that this devil is going to be able
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to do signs and lying wonders.
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He's going to be able to do wonders and miracles just like Jesus Christ did.
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He's going to prove to the world that he is Jesus Christ, and the Jews are going
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to accept him through this delusion that he is their Messiah.
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Here's what it says in verse 10, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness
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in them that perish, watch, because they receive not the love of the truth that they might be saved.
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So they did not receive the love of the truth. What have we emphasized over
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and over again in this podcast?
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It is not about whether we tolerate people or trying to be a nice person or
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we're trying to get along.
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That's not the primary goal of the Christian.
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The primary goal of the Christian is truth, is a commitment to the truth,
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to the truth, to the truth.
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Whether it makes us happy, whether it makes us sad, whether it offends us, it doesn't matter.
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It's about what is the truth
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and the people that are going to accept satan in
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the flesh are the ones that it says right here because
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they received not the love of the truth that they might be saved and then it
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says this verse 11 and this is man this is a sad passage but it says and for
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this cause what cause them not receiving the love of the truth god shall send them strong delusion,
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that they should believe a lie.
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So the reason why they accept the Antichrist and they accept the lie behind
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the one world government and the mark of the beast,
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the reason why they're deluded by that is because God forced them into that
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position, but they first rejected the truth.
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God's not overriding their will. He's giving them the consequences of their
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free choice, and they chose to reject the truth.
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They wanted to hold on to their political ideology, their Christian nationalism.
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Their charity, their do good under your neighbor type of junk.
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You know what I'm saying?
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They wanted to hold on to that, so they reject the truth.
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So God says, okay, I'm going to send you a delusion. And here's the result of the delusion.
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He says, and for this cause, God shall send them strong delusion that they should
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believe a lie. So that's the first step. But what's the consequence of believing the lie?
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Verse 12, that they all might be damned.
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That's what it says, that they all might be damned who believe not the truth,
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but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
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So Paul basically is telling us, he's telling the church at Thessalonica.
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When this guy shows up, not only is he going to glorify himself and magnify
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himself above all that is called God, that means every religion is going to be in on it,
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that when he shows up, they're going to believe his lie and delusion because
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they rejected the truth of the word of God.
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And so that vulnerability to the strong delusion, if you don't understand the
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mystery of iniquity, you're going to be subject to it.
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And then, of course, the political blindness to the spirit of Antichrist,
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which, look, I'm all about America. I love this country. I was naturalized here.
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I fought for this country. You know, I was in the military and I'm telling you,
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I love this country. I love what the constitution stood for.
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I love what our Baptist fathers, forefathers sacrificed to get us this freedom.
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But this, like you said, is not the America from 250 years ago, 300 years ago.
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You know what I mean? This is not the same America.
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And so, this not understanding this mystery of iniquity is going to result in
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people becoming Christian nationalists and trying to think that the Republican
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Party is going to save them.
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Or being blind to the wickedness that's at, you know, at the White House and
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all the levels that are related to it, unfortunately.
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You know, it's scary thinking about it that you can present,
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you know, those who choose to believe a lie and not the love of the truth that
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you can't do anything for people like that.
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You can show them the truth and they wouldn't be able to recognize what it is.
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Right. And that's scary. And we have to keep in mind that as Christians,
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our obligation is to just tell the truth whether they accept it or not.
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So, you know, there's a quote from, because this is just to kind of illustrate
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just how ready the world is to receive the devil. This is in 1957.
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This is the Secretary General of NATO, Paul Henry Spack, and he's speaking before the UN.
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And this is what he says. He says, we don't want another committee.
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We have too many already.
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What we want is a man of sufficient stature to hold the allegiance of all the
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people and to lift us out of the economic morass into which we're sinking.
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Such, send us such a man. And watch what he says.
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And be he God or devil, we will receive him.
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That's what the secretary general of nato said october 1957 in front of the
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u.n general assembly that was you're talking about over 40 years ago 50 years
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ago almost 50 years ago they they were ready to receive the devil then how much
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more ready do you think they are today,
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is this it's around the corner it's tomorrow i don't know.
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Yeah, it's wild. Yeah, I mean, if you see the wickedness, it's not just people
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rejecting and cussing you out.
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It is ultimate perversion.
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I mean, this is stuff that is just like, it makes me think of Genesis chapter
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6 stuff. You know what I mean? It's just honestly, it's so wicked.
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And this goes, you know, I don't want to go into another rabbit trail too,
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but it's just so imperative for the Christian to know this, to know truth,
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to be able to identify this.
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And the majority of them in this country is going down this path of Christian
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nationalism because that's what they think it's supposed to be or it should be.
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And in fact, you've got— Well, they're holding on to a false hope.
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Yeah, and in fact, of all people, of all people, Christians are helping to usher in what's coming next.
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And that's it. That's concerning. That's sad. And this is why it's,
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you know, we emphasize that here at The Immutable Word is that you've got to
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know this book. Gotta get in it. Yep.
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Yep. So that was the mystery of iniquity, man. I tell you what,
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and that spirit of iniquity, that spirit of Antichrist is, you know,
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it's funny because, you know, the Bible says, you know, 1 Timothy 3.16,
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the mystery of godliness is God manifest in the flesh, right?
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So the spirit of iniquity is the devil manifest in the flesh.
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What's interesting, if you read 1 John 4.1, the Bible says to try every spirit
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to see whether it's of God. And what's one of the conditions that you test, you validate by?
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It says, any spirit that denies that Christ is come is an antichrist.
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So it's just interesting that that spirit of antichrist is the rejection,
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the antithesis of God manifest in the flesh.
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And isn't it interesting that every modern version out there except the King
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James Bible removes the word God manifest in the flesh in 1 Timothy 3.16?
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Yeah imagine that interesting nothing to it though yeah.
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Yeah, no, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, right?
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Yeah, right. Just a coincidence.
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Yep. So, anyway, so the next one, the last one, the last mystery is Mystery Babylon the Great.
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And I'll recap all seven of them here at the end. But the Mystery Babylon the Great.
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So, the Bible says in Revelation 17, verse 5, And upon her forehead was a name
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written, mystery, Babylon the Great, the mother of harlots and abominations of the earth.
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So this mystery reveals a final apostate, one world religious system that will
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dominate the world during the tribulation period.
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And it represents really the culmination of false religion that began at the
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Tower of Babel back in Genesis 11.
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So it describes a woman that rides a beast, Revelation 17.
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So it's a corrupt religious system that's riding political power.
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Because the Bible says that she fornicates and commits adultery with the kings of this world.
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So, you know, I do believe that the Roman Catholic Church, if it's not the mystery
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Babylon, it is a foundational stepping stone.
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To the Babylon the Great, because it's been involved in the political world
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since, you know, the fourth century.
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And it has been knee-deep in every political conspiracy.
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You know, that's why I thought it was interesting that Brother Tillis said that,
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you know, he thinks that Epstein was a Jesuit plant, or he worked for the Jesuits.
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It could be very possible, you know, I wouldn't doubt
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it yeah but what this so so
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there's political this religious the religious church
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marrying the state we see that as part of this babylon the great system we also
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see ecumenical deception because listen unity without truth and that's exactly
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what you're going to do you're going to unify all the religions of the world
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into a single religious system in order to do that you got to eliminate doctrine.
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Because you can't get, you know, you can't get Hindus and Buddhists and Muslims
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and Christians and JWs and Mormons and Jews.
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You can't get them to worship and go into one religion without stripping out
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all the doctrinal truth.
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So unity without truth, that's where you merge all religions into one.
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That's ecumenical deception, and that's at the heart of Babylon the Great.
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And of course, it describes spiritual fornication. That's unfaithfulness to
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God through idolatry and false worship.
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How else are you going to get the world to worship the image of the beast and
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take his mark as a process or a step to that worship?
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And of course, the Bible also says in Revelation 17.6 that this woman was drunken
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with the blood of saints, and there is not one religious church on the planet that.
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That can, I mean, hold a candle to what the Roman Catholic Church has done to
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believers over the past 1,500 years.
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And then, of course, what I brought up, Revelation 18, 13, human slavery,
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slaves and the souls of men.
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So, failing to understand the mystery of the Babylon the Great and this one-world
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ecumenical movement, you know, the marriage of church and state,
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the spiritual fornication,
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the stripping of doctrine, all of this, the doctrinal errors that will result
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from this by not, by a Christian not being faithful to the, you know,
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being this faithful steward to these mysteries.
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They're going to embrace ecumenicism and interfaith movements.
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They're going to sit there and put a, turn a blind eye to doctrinal differences.
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They'll accept a Paula White.
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You know what I mean? They'll accept some of these other liberal churches that
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are getting rid of the King James Bible and getting rid of their labels and stuff.
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You know, we don't, we don't want to be tied to a label anymore.
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We're all God's children.
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They're going to, you know, accept philosophies where, you know, all paths lead to God.
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Again, there's no doctrinal error. But Jesus Christ, when he was dealing with
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the Sadducees who rejected the resurrection, the afterlife, and they were challenging
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him about the woman, you know, marrying a man and then marrying the seven brothers,
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he says, Ye do err not knowing the scripture, nor the power of God.
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So he told them that there was errors in what their belief was,
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and he was using the word of God to correct them.
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Then, of course, by, you know, misunderstanding the Babylonian great mystery,
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you fail to separate from apostate churches. You're not going to know the difference.
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And then you're going to trust in religious institutions over Christ and the Bible.
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You're going to become a Christian nationalist. And you know what?
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Anything that's going to protect your precious Trump, even if it means throwing the Bible out.
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And then, of course, embracing religious nationalism, which is all at the heart of all that.
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So, you know, these mysteries, let me go back and kind of like recap.
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So the first one, the mystery of godliness, that's God manifest in the flesh.
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That's Jesus Christ is fully God and fully man. That's the hypostatic union
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that we mentioned earlier in the last episode.
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And then, of course, the mystery of Christ in you, that's Christ dwells within every believer.
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That's our hope of glory, right? We were baptized into Christ.
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I mean, that's a very important doctrine, spiritual circumcision.
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That's where, you know, eternal security comes from and so forth and so on.
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And then, of course, the body of Christ means all believers are united as one
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spiritual organism that's called the church, and that's Christ's bride,
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according to Ephesians 5.
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Then, of course, Israel's blindness, Israel's temporary spiritual blindness,
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because you also have, you know, you have the Christian nationalists and you
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have the people that are rejecting, you know, Israel and attacking Israel and
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they're replacing Israel with the church.
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But then you have the other guys on the other side where literally every,
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if you're a Jew, you're saved.
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You know, if you're a Jew, you could do no wrong. Well, I hate to break it to
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you, but the Antichrist, when you study his nature, you find out the Bible says
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in Daniel that he goes against the God of his fathers.
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And that phrase, God of his fathers, is Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
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That means the Antichrist is half Jew or part Jew.
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And that Jew is predisposed. They are engineered to run the world.
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That is eventually what's going to happen in the millennium.
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But you have a blind apostate Israel.
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Guess what they're going to do? They're
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going to operate a level that is completely against the word of God.
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So, yeah, they're in blindness right now, but it's temporary.
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God's not done with them. It's very important to understand that.
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And then, of course, the rapture. Living believers, you know,
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were transformed instantly and were caught up to meet Christ in the air.
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That's the rapture, you know, and, of course, trying to put the church in the tribulation.
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Confuses what the purpose of the tribulation. And then what we just talked about,
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the mystery of iniquity, that's, you know, the wickedness, the mystery of iniquity
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that's been operating since the time of Paul, and it's preparing the way for the Antichrist.
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And then Babylon the Great, which is the final apostate one world religious
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system that will eventually come to fruition and then be destroyed right at
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the end of the tribulation.
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So why is it important, you know, to kind of reiterate, why are these mysteries so important?
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And we did a super high level. I mean, we could have spent an episode apiece
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with each mystery, to be honest with you.
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But understanding these mysteries obviously requires distinguishing God's program
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for Israel and his program for the church.
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And if you don't think that there's a difference between those two,
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then I'm sorry, you're a babe in Christ and you don't know what the Bible says.
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And the key to you know key to understanding is right division that is the only
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proper way to interpret the bible is through dispensational hermeneutics or interpretation.
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That means recognizing that the gospel of the kingdom that was preached to Israel
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differs from the mystery of the church and the gospel of the kingdom of God,
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which is spiritual righteousness and holiness in the Holy Spirit.
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And, you know, if you don't make that distinction between Israel and the church
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and these mysteries and their application to the church, then what's going to
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happen is you're going to—the scripture, when you start reading your Bible,
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you're going to be confused.
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And you're going to sit there and accept contradictions or create contradictions
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in the way that you interpret it.
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So, at the end of the day, what are the consequences?
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So, if you were to misunderstand or misapply these mysteries,
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right, failing to understand these mysteries, you know, we mentioned before
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that it leads to serious doctrinal errors and heresies.
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And here's some of them. Number one, you'll attack the deity of Christ by not
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understanding the mystery of godliness,
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denying Jesus as God by obscuring that phrase, God was manifest in the flesh,
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or that Jesus Christ was not truly God.
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He was a God, or he's just the son of God. He's a lesser God.
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So, you're going to end up attacking Christ's deity if you don't understand
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the mystery of godliness.
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You reject the distinction between the church and Israel. Now you're going to
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get involved in replacement theology or what's also called super successionism.
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That's falsely claiming the church has permanently replaced Israel.
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That means you're going to sit there and call God a liar for all the promises
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and the covenants in the Old Testament.
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And then, of course, the loss of the blessed hope, which is the rapture,
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confusing the rapture with the second coming.
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You're going to create fear and confusion, especially in eternal security.
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And you're going to try to force people into works, performance, salvation.
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Then you have ecumenicism and apostasy, failing to identify false religious
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systems and the spirit of Antichrist, works-based salvation, mixing law and grace,
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trusting rituals instead of Christ's finished work, religious nationalism,
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mixing church and state relationships, and failing to separate what belongs to God and Caesar.
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The dissolution of biblical authority, because by rejecting the biblical literalism
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associated with these mysteries, you're
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going to start to allegorize and spiritualize passages of Scripture.
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And then your final authority becomes subjective. You've shifted it from God
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being the authority to man or politics or culture being the authority.
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And then, of course, you're going to weaken your faith because the Bible tells
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us, Romans 10 and verse 17, so then faith comes by hearing, hearing by the Word of God.
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Well, if you're improperly interpreting Scripture and misapplying these mysteries,
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you're going to weaken your faith and the believer's faith that you're trying
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to teach and where they're not, they're going to be unable to contend for the
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faith once delivered to the saints because they're not going to be able to properly
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articulate it or identify it.
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So at the bottom, the bottom line, the reason why these mysteries are important,
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faithful stewardship of these mysteries, what it does is ensures and it creates a grounded,
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rooted foundation for Christians, ensures spiritual stability.
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Correct interpretation of Scripture, purifying the hope of Christ's return in
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the heart of the believer.
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And because of these things, this is why Paul said in Corinthians that you're
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going to hold us accountable by ensuring that we're faithful stewards of these mysteries.
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So like I said, you can be bad at your money, you can mess up in your sanctification
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and your personal, and I'm not saying that you're not going to impact another
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believer because of that.
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But if you get these mysteries wrong, you could literally cause a church to go into apostasy.
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You can literally, you know, cause Christians to stumble in their understanding
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of the faith and their ability to defend the faith. So these mysteries are important.
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You know, so the mystery of godliness, the mystery of Christ in you,
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the mystery of the body of Christ, the mystery of Israel's blindness,
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the rapture, the mystery of iniquity, and Babylon the Great.
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Learn these mysteries. It is so critical and key for the Christian,
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especially in spiritual growth.
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So, especially in the times that we're living in, you know what I mean?
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It's more critical now than it's ever been before in the last,
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again, we mentioned this earlier in the episode, five, ten years,
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how quickly we've accelerated down this path and how satanic things have been.
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And this is with having even, you know, the current administration having a
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right-wing conservative, quote-unquote Christian president.
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But we need to know this truth more than ever. Yeah, absolutely.
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And you know what? Like we were talking about in the previous episode,
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how many believers actually can cite all seven of these mysteries?
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How many people can sit there and adequately sit down and defend each one of
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these mysteries from the top of their head?
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And yet Paul said we're supposed to be faithful stewards of them.
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Yeah, that's a command. Right? It is shameful.
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I'll play a little bit of a devil's advocate here for the audience's sake.
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And here you've presented, it's been very, very clear about the expectations,
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the accountability that we have as Christians, being faithful stewards of these mysteries.
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We need to know these things. We need to know these critical doctrines.
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So that way we can identify, again, you know, be able to detect Satan working in all facets.
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In the political world, in the media, everywhere we see. We need to be able
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to identify that the only way we can do that is through the study of God's Word
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and knowing these things.
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Now, knowing this, what if somebody comes to you and is like,
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hey, Robert, this is great,
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very deep theological study, but shouldn't we just be focused on soul winning
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and focusing on just bringing people into church?
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And I think that the issue is that we're not teaching our kids and we're just
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poor examples as parents, and we really need to go in there and teach that,
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teach the next generation that's coming in.
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And if we start focusing on this theology stuff, we're probably going to end
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up in replacing church and going into this YouTube theology culture.
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What would you say to that?
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False analogy. Well, I know. Slippery slope, all that good stuff.
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I mean, well, I'd have several questions. Number one, what are you going to teach them?
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Number two, if you're going to win them and you expect them to grow and teach
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others, how are you going to establish that foundation?
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And what are you going to do when their faith is challenged by a world who hates
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their God, hates their Bible, hates their religion?
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Number three, show me how a YouTube ministry can allow somebody to grow spiritually
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if they're rejecting what the Word of God says about the local church.
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That's a misunderstanding of the mystery. Because if you misunderstand the mystery
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of the body of Christ, You're going to misunderstand the ministry of the local
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church as an organization.
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It's a self-defeating argument, honestly. It's a poor argument,
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you know. But it just shows you that that person doesn't know their Bible.
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They think their Bible is about soul winning. Your Bible is not about soul winning.
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And this is unfortunately the departure from dispensational hermeneutics,
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is that the person thinks that the entire Bible from Genesis Revelation is a story of redemption.
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It's not. But if you can, you know, make this make sense to me,
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square this peg for me, right?
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You're telling me that God is more interested in wicked, vile,
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you know, men nailing his son to a cross, stripping him naked,
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ripping his beard out of his face, mocking him and spitting on him.
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He's more interested in that than he is in his son sitting on a throne one day
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and destroying his enemies and making all of his enemies his footstool.
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Which day do you think is the one that God is more interested in?
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I'm concerned about Calvary because I got saved. But if you think that's what
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the Bible's about, that just shows a vast ignorance of Scripture.
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And so, unfortunately, what you just described is a very shallow Christianity
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that is going to usher in the Antichrist.
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The reason why you have Christian nationalists, the reason why you have these
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Trumpites that are waving the flag and want Trump to be reelected and they want
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a conservative Congress is because of that mentality, what you just described.
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It's not helping anything, in other words.
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Nope. What it's doing, it's creating biblical ignorance.
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And my people, Hosea said, are destroyed for lack of knowledge.
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So what that person just told me is they're more interested in practical,
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everyday Christian life, but they're not interested in the Bible.
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But you know what? Here's the problem. When Jesus Christ told the Pharisees,
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you do err, not knowing the scriptures nor the power of God.
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He said their fundamental error was not that, because the Sadducees were very
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righteous people. So were the Pharisees.
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Matter of fact, he says in Matthew chapter 23, he goes, I want you to do after
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what they say, but don't do after what they do.
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He goes, don't follow the hypocrisy. But he just said this. He goes.
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They tied their mint, their cumin, their anise.
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They round out the borders of their phylacteries. They dressed right. They dressed holy.
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They looked. I mean, the Bible says in Romans chapter 10 that they had a zeal
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towards God, but without knowledge.
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So in all practical purposes, if they were to walk into a fundamental,
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independent, fundamentalist type church, they would be the type of men that
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you would put up on the pinnacle and say, these are great men of God. Right?
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But Jesus Christ said, you do err, not knowing the scriptures,
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the scriptures, the scriptures.
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That's the final authority. Then you know what else he said?
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He says, you're full of dead men's bones.
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You fool well, you reject the word of God for your tradition.
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And unfortunately, a person that says that soul winning and bus ministries and
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all this other stuff is more important than understanding these seven mysteries,
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they're basically telling you that what they want to do is uphold and promote
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tradition over Scripture.
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Jesus Christ said this in John 12, verse 48. He says, I'm not going to judge
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you. I'm not going to judge you, but there is one that's going to judge you.
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And he says, the one that's going to judge you is going to be my words, John 12, 48.
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So, you're telling me that not learning the Word of God is,
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you know, for the sake of promoting, you know, good behavior,
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dressing right, promoting the bus ministry, you're telling me that's more important
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than learning the Word of God?
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That you're supposed to replace, you know, studying? That's the command.
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The only command to study the Word of God is 2 Timothy 2.15.
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It doesn't say study the ministry of great men of God. It says study the Scriptures, the Word of Truth.
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So, if the mandate exists, and it says that if you want to find approval from
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God, it all hinges upon your ability to rightly divide and study the Bible,
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you're going to tell me that running a bus ministry is more important than that?
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Yeah, hopefully nobody will ask me that question.
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I did. With that said, unfortunately, we live in a culture of,
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when I say we, I say saved Christians, we live in a culture of performative Christianity.
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This is the majority of the country, especially American Christians,
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that the emphasis, consequently the emphasis is on those things that— Well, there's a misnomer.
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They think that right theology or right practice, right practical theology should
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govern right doctrine, but that's backwards.
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Right. Right doctrine governs right behavior.
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Right. It drives right behavior. And if you don't understand that,
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then you have a great, you know, ignorance of the Word of God, you know?
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Yeah. I'm not, listen, I'm not convicted because a man, you know,
1:00:12
puts more money in the plate than I do.
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I'm convicted because when I read 2 Corinthians 8 and Paul says,
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if you really love me, if you love God, you'd put money in that plate. There's a difference.
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You know, if I've got to be berated about putting money in the plate,
1:00:27
then, you know, there's a problem with my heart with God. But if I'm sitting
1:00:31
there putting money in the plate because of what a man says behind a pulpit,
1:00:33
then I'm following that man. I'm not following God.
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And so, there's too much scriptural evidence to show that people like to follow people.
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People are drawn to following men. They're sheep. That's why Christ described us as that. Yeah.
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It's easy to follow. It's easy to set up a subjective standard of a man who
1:00:57
might be claimed to be a man of God, for example.
1:01:00
And if you're not living to that certain standard, then you're sort of outside
1:01:03
the scope of where you should be as Christian. It's, you know,
1:01:06
again, it's the culture of performative Christianity, which is drawn away from
1:01:10
Scripture, unfortunately.
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I'll ask you one last thing. I know we can go on and on about this.
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But you and I both know that what we talk about, the deep diving of Scripture,
1:01:23
understanding the mysteries and getting to the doctrines, it's what we're supposed
1:01:26
to do. It's what we're required to do.
1:01:29
It is what we're accountable for. This is the burden that we bear.
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It's part of the truth we need to know.
1:01:35
To detect Satan's work in this world and be able to fight against it because
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it's a spiritual battle.
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There's going to be a lot of Christians, and well, I say a lot,
1:01:45
but hopefully we have more listeners that will start listening to this stuff.
1:01:47
They've never heard this stuff before.
1:01:50
You know, they might have grown up in church, but they've been in this performative
1:01:54
Christianity culture for so long that this is foreign, this truth that we're
1:02:00
talking about is foreign to a safe Christian.
1:02:02
Now, if they're happening to stumble upon this truth and they're hungry,
1:02:09
but they know that they're not going to be fed the meat that they're required
1:02:13
to really grow spiritually,
1:02:15
what kind of guidance would you give them?
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Supplement your diet if you're not getting the right food, you know,
1:02:24
unfortunately from your local church.
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I'm not saying, if there's a concept that I've heard, and I often recommend
1:02:33
the same thing, and that's, you know, A church, B church, C church, D church.
1:02:38
A church would be like the perfect church that's doctrinally sound,
1:02:42
has a balance of practical theology, doctrinal, deep theological, you know, theology.
1:02:49
It teaches you the Word of God, rightly divides, so forth, and so on.
1:02:52
It has a balance of, you know, love and grace and fellowship with Christian
1:02:58
believers, the right music, the right standards, so forth, and so on.
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That's the A church. Well, if you can't find the A church, find the B church.
1:03:05
You know, maybe it's good music,
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it's right standard, but it's not as deep theologically as you'd like.
1:03:13
You know, and, you know, if you live in an area where it's real hard to find
1:03:16
a B church, then find a C church where at least they claim to believe the Bible.
1:03:21
You know, they are preaching salvation.
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And if you're in a situation where you're in a C or B church,
1:03:27
then you have to supplement your faith because this is, well, you have to do it anyway.
1:03:31
I don't care if you're in a church, because if all you do is rely on the pulpit
1:03:35
to feed you, then you've got a, you've got a dietary issue because that Bible
1:03:40
is supposed to be living food.
1:03:42
Jesus Christ said, Matthew 4, 4, man shall not live by bread alone,
1:03:45
but by every word which proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
1:03:49
That means if that Bible is not a daily, sustainable, and weekly diet for you,
1:03:55
then you are failing to follow God. I don't care if you're in the best church
1:03:59
in the world. It doesn't matter.
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The Bible says in 2 Timothy 2, 15, study to show thyself approved unto God.
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Not your pastor, not your best friend, not your aunt, your uncle,
1:04:12
your grandparents, your mom, your dad, your wife, your husband.
1:04:15
It's a study to show thyself approved unto God. That means the level of study
1:04:21
that you do must meet God's approval, period.
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The Bible says in Romans 14, verse 12, so then every one of us shall give account of himself.
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That means you will have to give an account at the judgment seat of Christ for
1:04:40
your duty and responsibility of learning that book.
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And if your excuse is, well, my pastor didn't touch on this,
1:04:47
my preacher didn't preach on this, you are going to be held accountable.
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Your preacher will be held accountable for himself.
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He'll have to give an account for his ministry that God gave him,
1:04:59
but you are going to be responsible for your ministry.
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That's called the priesthood of the believer. We'll get into that when we start
1:05:07
talking about Baptist distinctives.
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But that's what I would tell somebody. Well, if you're not getting what you
1:05:12
need behind the pulpit, supplement your diet.
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Get good Bible-believing Baptist preachers that are King James only,
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that are right-dividing, men of God that won't compromise on doctrine,
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that aren't afraid to tell you the truth.
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And here's the bottom line. This is what one preacher said one time.
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He said this. He goes, the job of every Christian.
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He's a missionary to Japan back in the 50s. He said, the job of every Christian
1:05:36
is to find out what the spirit of the age is and go against it and find out
1:05:42
what the scripture says against that particular spirit.
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Because the spirit of the age of this world, it's always going to follow the God of this world.
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And so the job of every Christian is to be able to identify that.
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So if you start getting comfortable in this world, then, yeah,
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that's probably a good danger sign that you're off track somewhere.
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But, yep, if you're not getting it from your church, no excuses.
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You got a Bible in your hand.
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You know, you have brothers and sisters that have bled to put that Bible in your hand.
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And it'd be a shame for you to stand up and, you know, at the judgment seat
1:06:13
of Christ and face those people who literally had their children ripped from their wombs.
1:06:19
They were nailed to crosses.
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They were drowned. They were torn apart so that you can have a Bible in your
1:06:26
hand and you won't study it.
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Yep, amen to that. And I'd just like to reemphasize this, I said this in the
1:06:34
previous episode too, is that podcast is not a replacement for church.
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If you're looking for a license to not be in church, there's no good excuse
1:06:42
for that. We're supposed to be in a church. And I loved how you put that.
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It's like, look for the A, B, C, or D church.
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Look for what's out there, the closest thing that you can get into,
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where you can get in fellowship with others and try to draw out what you can.
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But we really don't have any excuse not to be fed and supplemented.
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There's so many sources out there that we can learn to read our Bible,
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learn to study our Bible.
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I know we're going to be covering some of that in some of these episodes.
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You know what I would recommend, Alan, too, is like, if somebody's struggling
1:07:15
with that, go back to our The Law of Christian Fellowship episode.
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Listen to that. Go back and study those. Because that's how you balance out
1:07:24
going to a church where you may not agree with everybody.
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Because at the end of the day, the more you learn that Bible,
1:07:29
you are going to get to a point where you don't agree with anybody.
1:07:33
But you're going to have to figure out how to live with them.
1:07:35
You're going to have to figure out how to fellowship with them.
1:07:38
You're going to have to figure out how to work with them hand-in-hand in the ministry.
1:07:43
Good stuff. All right. I think we are at time, but maybe we'll have a few more
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minutes to talk about the Epstein Files. No, just kidding.
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Yeah, maybe, man. I'm telling you what, let's put it this way.
1:07:55
I think there's going to be enough material on that probably to last us our lifetime.
1:08:01
It's just going to go, I can only imagine. But, you know, again,
1:08:04
you know, part of me, the conspiracy theorist type in me wants to dig into those details.
1:08:09
But part of me is just sickened by it, to be honest with you.
1:08:12
I just, I just, I can't imagine what those people are going to have to face
1:08:17
at the great white throne judgment.
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And, you know, rightly so. Rightly so. But these kids can't defend themselves.
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I mean, you know, we've murdered tens of millions of babies in mother's wombs in this decade.
1:08:31
You know, we think how horrible it would be that, you know, and somebody was
1:08:36
like, oh, you know, it's, it's a terrible thing to say that you're going to,
1:08:39
you know, wrap a rock around a man's neck and throw him in the deepest sea.
1:08:43
Really? If you understood what some of these people are involved with and how
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they abuse these children, to me, that that's mercy, to be honest with you.
1:08:54
Pure evil honestly i just i can't you know
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you and i have kids of our own man and i can't imagine i
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like how one guy said one time he was a
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he's a famous speaker i'm not i can't say what he
1:09:05
said he cussed but he had he had a 14 year old daughter and she was giving a
1:09:09
i guess it was like a ted talk or something and somebody in the audience said
1:09:14
i love you will you marry me he stopped he her father was there he got up and
1:09:19
he grabbed the mic and he says first of all my daughter's 14 years old.
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And no, you are not, you do not love her. And no, you are not going to marry her.
1:09:28
And he said this, he goes, and you're not going to wait to where she's old enough for you to marry.
1:09:32
Matter of fact, you're not going to have anything to do with her life.
1:09:34
He goes, because if I ever see you around my daughter, he goes, I will kill you.
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And then he said this, and then
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I will spend the rest of my life in prison knowing I did the right thing.
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And I'm telling you, that's the kind of, that's how I feel about some of this stuff.
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When I hear about what was going on, how these kids were abused,
1:09:52
and man, it makes them blood. It'll put a rise out of your flesh, that's for sure.
1:09:57
And as a father of, you know, two girls, I can't.
1:10:01
It's hard to wrap my mind around that kind of evil that occurs,
1:10:05
and it just makes you want to. It's so wicked. So I think about in Jeremiah
1:10:08
where, you know, God was telling them, he goes, you burn your children,
1:10:13
your sons and daughters at the altar.
1:10:15
And he says, that never even came in my mind.
1:10:19
I mean, he goes, you've done things to your children. You've sacrificed them to these gods.
1:10:23
And surprisingly, it's not unsurprisingly, I think, is some of the stuff that
1:10:29
was revealed in the Epstein Files, is some of that was religious sacrificial worship.
1:10:34
They admitted to it. I'm telling you, man, it's just sickening.
1:10:38
It's just sickening, yeah. And it's been around for thousands of years.
1:10:42
So I want Christ to come back soon, right? Yep, this world's not our home,
1:10:47
man. And if nothing else will remind you, that should. Amen. Yeah.
1:10:53
All right, bro. I think we'll call it quits there. Anything,
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any last words, any last rounds?
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Nope, nope. I think the next episode, we'll cover basically the last part of
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the angels. We'll be studying about the devil.
1:11:09
I mean, we talked a little bit about him today, obviously, but we'll cover that up.
1:11:13
And then, you know, the goal objective of that one will be one to highlight
1:11:18
who the devil is biblically, doctrinally, and then kind of bring all of this
1:11:23
angel stuff to conclusion, especially with, you know, connection with UFOs and whatnot.
1:11:28
So, this is, you know, this has been kind of a crazy paranormal bit,
1:11:32
you know, but I think it's important to understand it.
1:11:35
I'm not saying that you invest your entire life in it, but I'm just saying you
1:11:39
need to know the truth. So, you know, you might as well have a biblical answer for it, right?
1:11:44
The truth is out there. We'll try to focus on that next episode. Yeah, sounds good.
1:11:50
All right, well, we'll go ahead and close it off there. Thank you for listening.
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Any questions, please reach out. I know there's a lot of stuff that's being covered here.
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Happy to talk with anybody that's interested further about any of these specific topics.
1:12:03
But go back and listen up to part one if you haven't yet to go through the first
1:12:08
four or five mysteries. And then, of course, look forward to the next episodes
1:12:13
that we're planning to do. We'll see everybody next week.