Latest / Black Girl Interrupted Podcast / Domestic Violence....Why can't you keep your hands to yourself LADIES..Pt 3
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- 0:31What's up? What's up? What's up? Y'all. It's sugirl Ash.
- 0:35Y'all know who it is? Your favorite girl from the follow for bringing you,
- 0:41y'all, another episode of Black Girl interrupted. Y'all have to bear with
- 0:47me um last night. I was supposed to do this episode last night,
- 0:53but unfortunately my lupus is just not allowing me to be great. So I
- 1:00pushed last night's episode to today, and then I really kind of struggle today
- 1:07whether or not I wanted to do my episode today, but I said,
- 1:10you know what, let me go ahead and push through. So yes,
- 1:12I am currently having a Lucas flare up, y'all, my legs or killing
- 1:18me my neck, my whole body is aching right now, but no fever,
- 1:23nothing like that. So I was like, let me jump on tonight
- 1:26because I promise, y'all, I said, I was gonna stay consistent.
- 1:29We're doing this show. I'm so here. I am again, Happy Wednesday,
- 1:36Happy Humped Day. We have made it halfway through the week. We
- 1:40are two days away from the weekend. Y'all got the bed with your girl.
- 1:46I'm trying to push through tonight, but this conversation is so imperative.
- 1:51This topic is so so so imperative. What I want to discuss tonight when
- 1:56it comes to men and whether it's sexual abuse, whether it's domestic violence,
- 2:04Men are always the forgotten victim. We focus more on women and less on
- 2:10the men when we need to be focused on men too because men are victims
- 2:15as well, So hence the purple Tonight, I want to talk about domestic
- 2:19violence yet again. Yes, I know Domestic Violence Awareness Month is October,
- 2:25but domestic violence issues don't just happen in October. They happen every day.
- 2:32And we're seeing more and more men being unlived by women than anything, So
- 2:42we're seeing this more now, so I want to address it. But y'all
- 2:46already know how I start my shows. Y'all already know y'all I gotta do
- 2:51my mental health. Check in man, check in with your girl. Let
- 2:53me know how you feeling today, Like I say, happy Wednesday. We're
- 2:57two days away from the weekend. What are your plans? What are y'all
- 3:00doing? But most importantly, how are you doing mentally? How are you
- 3:05doing emotionally? How are you doing physically? How are you doing spiritually?
- 3:09So I want to know. Dropping the comments, let me know again.
- 3:13Y'all. Welcome tonight to another episode of Black Girl Interrupted. Y'all, I'm
- 3:19here, I'm here tonight, I'm here. There's my sister, Hay Sissy.
- 3:25I love you too, and thank you. Yes, my legs are
- 3:30hurting so, so, so bad. I took a master relaxed earlier.
- 3:34I think it maybe that that will help. I promised. I'm walking around
- 3:38here like an old last woman. I promise. Hey, brother, My
- 3:44brother says he's hanging in there mentally. I know it. It's a struggle
- 3:47with everything that's going on in this world right now, it's a struggle and
- 3:53we we're barely making it. So this is why you know. I do
- 3:58these mental health check ins simply because if we don't check on each other,
- 4:02who is who else is checking for us? Nobody? So I want to
- 4:09know how you're doing mentally. I want to know what can I do to
- 4:12help push you a little closer to the finish line? Mentally? What can
- 4:16I do? Can I would you like for me to pray for you?
- 4:19Do you want to have a conversation? Do you need me to continue to
- 4:23empower you? Do you need me to encourage you? Do you need me
- 4:25to uplift you. This is what we need definitely in these day and times.
- 4:30I mean, we're seeing the youth is this world. It's crazy,
- 4:39y'all, It is crazy. But we have to keep going. We have
- 4:44to keep holding on to each other. We have to keep encouraging, we
- 4:46have to keep empowering, we have to keep uplifting one another, because you
- 4:53don't know what a person is going through. You know, you may see
- 4:55a person that's smiling and laughing on the outside, but they may be slowly
- 4:58dying on the ends side. So it's up to us to make sure that
- 5:02we're checking on our loved ones, our friends. I mean, I tell
- 5:05you every episode, I'll tell y'all it takes third and seconds to send a
- 5:09text and say hey, I love you, I'm thinking about you, hope
- 5:12you're having a great day. You never know that text message may change someone's
- 5:15life. So y'all know what I do before I jump into any conversation.
- 5:23Y'all know, I always have to drop some type of empowering video and uplifting
- 5:28video, something to keep you encouraged. But let me go ahead and drop
- 5:31this because I definitely want to hurry and jump into to nice conversation because by
- 5:36bad, I'm sick of this. I'm really, really, really truly sick
- 5:42and tired of this. So let's go ahead. Let me play you something
- 5:45that's encouraging, uplifting, empowering in another way of me telling you that I
- 5:48love you, and then we're gonna jump into to nice conversation. I want
- 5:56to encourage somebody out there who's thinking about quitting and giving up, somebody who
- 6:02has been praying for years for things to turn around. You're thinking about quitting,
- 6:11You're thinking about giving up. You are folding, you are caving in.
- 6:17This is for you. You're in this storm and you're down on your
- 6:21knees and you're cold and you're weak, and you feel like this is the
- 6:27end. You have a choice to either give up or keep going, give
- 6:34up or get up. Don't give up, don't give up, stay in
- 6:43it, stay focused. When you fail, try again and again and again.
- 6:54You just take one step at a time. It's hard, but it's
- 7:00worth fighting. Is worth believing, it's worth mustering yourself up, standing up
- 7:06inside yourself. It's worth fighting relentlessly, never giving up. I love the
- 7:12sun, but things don't grow because of the sun. You have to have
- 7:16some rain, and you've got to stop looking at rain in your life as
- 7:21something bad. My greatest moments didn't come from my greatest moments. My greatest
- 7:28moments came from my greatest defeats, because it was doing my defeat that I
- 7:32had to find a way to get back up. You thought for one minute
- 7:39that you broke from me, You got me twisted. I am not phenomenally
- 7:45killed, but phenomenally will. I will not give up. I will not
- 7:48to render. I will not quit. God stop, coach, stop coach,
- 7:57Stop running towards your dreams. Stay in courage, Stay in courage,
- 8:03keep your head up, stick your chest out, continue to walk with clod
- 8:09and know if it was easy, everybody would do it. It's not gonna
- 8:11be easy, but we have what it takes. There are rough times are
- 8:16gonna come, but they have not come to stay. They have come to
- 8:20pass. Don't say I'm having a bad day. Say I'm having a character
- 8:24building day. Don't look at night at darkness, look at night as a
- 8:28new beginning. So as I keep on with my mental health check in,
- 8:58I I'm gonna switch the video up next what tomorrow, I'm gonna have another
- 9:05inspirational video. But y'all have to understand, every time I watch that video,
- 9:09it pushes me a little closer to the finish line. Because every obstacle
- 9:16that I've encountered in my life, I've always given up, always given up.
- 9:20I've never sought to try to figure out how to make it through.
- 9:24I've always thrown in a towel, you know. Like I was telling Myselster
- 9:28earlier today, I'm having a whole loopas flare up right now and I'm sitting
- 9:33right here talking to y'all. So I can't give up. You know.
- 9:37Yes, I know y'all are gonna say, oh, Ashley, but your
- 9:39health is important. Yeah, but I can't let Lupe's beat me. You
- 9:46get what I'm saying. I have to beat lupas So that video, it
- 9:50just encourages me. It just empowers me. It just uplifts me, and
- 9:54it just makes me want to keep going over and over and over, no
- 9:58matter how many times I fall down, I want to get back up.
- 10:01I want to keep going. I have to keep going, you know it.
- 10:07Just again, I've allowed depression to take me down. I can't loopus
- 10:16take me there either, So I have to get up. I have to
- 10:20push you. Yes, my legs are swollen. Yes, my neck is
- 10:24stiff as a damn board. I feel like I have the flu right now,
- 10:26But no fever, no, none of that. But anybody that's watching,
- 10:31anybody that may be standing in the midst of a storm, keep going,
- 10:35keep going, keep going, keep going. It does get better,
- 10:39it gets easier, regardless of what you're going through. God is gonna always
- 10:46make a way, to always make a way out of no way, and
- 10:48I every day I have to trust and believe that God is gonna hear me.
- 10:54I have to keep trusting. I have to keep believing that this is
- 10:58what's gonna happen. So this is why I'm here tonight. Yes I'm a
- 11:03Lucas Warrior, y'all, but I'm here. I'm here tonight to be with
- 11:11y'all. I love y'all. You know y'all deserve it. So oh all
- 11:18right, So let's jump into some of these comments, but keep dropping in
- 11:22the comments. Let me know how you feeling mentally, How are you feeling
- 11:24emotionally spiritually? I want to know. But just know that I love you
- 11:31and we're gonna make it. We're gonna get through this. I promise you
- 11:33we are so Brittany says, I came right on time. I needed to
- 11:39see this video. Yes, I know these last few days, y'all,
- 11:45don't even I'll talk about that tomorrow. Y'all can't even fathom what I've been
- 11:52dealing with since Friday. But that's a conversation for tomorrow. She said,
- 11:58come on, and during purple lips. It's really so let me tell y'all.
- 12:03So I was trying to diet red right, okay, so let me
- 12:05show y'all. So y'all know, my head was like a dark brown.
- 12:09So I bought this red to put on top, right, and I was
- 12:11like, okay, yes, it's gonna be red. And so once I
- 12:15runs the color, I said, this ain't no damn red, It's a
- 12:16ginger color. I look like pippy damn loan stockings. Do you with me?
- 12:22I look like Pippy loan stockings. But the color is starting to grow
- 12:24on me. But it's gonna be another color next week, so don't don't
- 12:28get too comfortable with this one it because I'm gonna put another color on top.
- 12:31It's crazy, y'all. So Britnan Brown says, BGI has the best
- 12:37episodes this far. Keep them coming, sis. Yeah, um, and
- 12:41they're gonna just keep getting better and better and better as the days, in
- 12:43the weeks, some months, and the years go by. Um so um
- 12:52goodness. So Britnan says that video definitely does it for me. I needed
- 12:56to hear that today. Thank you, Sis for being the light you are
- 12:58and thank you for never giving up. You are here for a reason.
- 13:01I'm thankful all of the support and love you. Give you a my cup
- 13:05of tea and I love it. I love you too, baby, and
- 13:07uh yes, I am a Lucas Warrior. So I am here, y'all.
- 13:13So y'all forgive me. Let me, let me scoop back a little
- 13:16bit. So um tonight's conversation. I know everyone's life, but this is
- 13:26it's only recognized in the month of October. But no, I have spoken
- 13:37on this several times. I've had several episodes with regards to domestic violence.
- 13:46But I want to talk to the men again. I want to speak on
- 13:50the men again. So tonight's conversation domestic's violence against men? Why does this
- 13:56keep happening? What at this and wanted me to bring and double back around
- 14:03to this conversation is because a little over a month ago, a young lady
- 14:09under by the name of Cadijia Brown was on Facebook Live and was arguing with
- 14:13horror her husband and she was arguing over the fact that he did not cook
- 14:18for the children. Mom is in the background, she's gas lighting the conversation.
- 14:24Before you know it, a gun goes off and the husband is killed.
- 14:33Let me say this to you, ladies, stop holding these men hostage.
- 14:41If they want to walk out the door, let them go, because
- 14:46in this situation there are no winners. Four children have lost both of their
- 14:52parents. Four children witnessed their mother shoot their father in the back of the
- 14:58head. Four children are definitely gonna need some intensive therapy. And I'm gonna
- 15:09repeat this one more time. You women, stop holding these men hostage in
- 15:15this how in these homes. If they want to go, Let these men
- 15:18walk out the door. If they cheat on you, leave them, baby,
- 15:22and let them go. What is killing them gonna do? What is
- 15:28killing them they gonna do? You kill them? You're still not gonna be
- 15:31with him. You're going to prison for the rest of your life. Children
- 15:35are affected. It's so many circumstances around that that your freedom is not worth
- 15:41all of that. That's like, if me and my fiance ever get to
- 15:46a space where he's cheating on me, I'm not gonna kill him for what.
- 15:52I'm gonna let you go and be with whoever you think so highly of
- 15:56and let you become their heady. I'm not losing my freedom behind no man,
- 16:00baby, let me tell you something. Only people I'm gonna lose my
- 16:03freedom behind is Jaquari, Jamari and Chase them. The only three people I'm
- 16:07gonna lose my freedom behind, and those are my children. Ain't no man
- 16:11in this world worth me losing my freedom period. So if you feel like
- 16:15you want to go by by, get the hell on out the door.
- 16:21I'm not gonna kill you. I'm not gonna hold you hostage. I'm not
- 16:25gonna beg I'm not gonna plead baby. If you feel like the grass is
- 16:27greener on the other side, baby, feel free to go and wander in
- 16:32the green pastures. Baby, go right on the head, because I'm not
- 16:34losing my freedom behind that. Again. When I saw that video, y'all,
- 16:40it made me sick in my stomach because I said, how could you
- 16:42do that? And then you got the mother in the background that's gas lighting
- 16:48the situation. That's instigating. That's throwing gasoline on the situation for what.
- 16:57And then the first thing you ladies want to do, You want to jump
- 17:00on social media. You want to get on social media. You want to
- 17:07show your ass for what. Now they have evidence because I believe she said
- 17:17she had a gun. She had a gun. It goes black on the
- 17:19screen. Didn't you hear the gunshot? For what? You did? All
- 17:27of that for what, ma'am? Because you were selfish, because you you
- 17:33made a selfish decision, because you decided to kill your husband because he didn't
- 17:41cook, denifer the kids. And then from some of the sources that I
- 17:45spoke with, this is not the first incident amongst those two where she's been
- 17:51the instigator. She's been the instigator. So let me jump into this video.
- 18:03I want to keep the conversation going. But y'all let me know your
- 18:07thoughts on this. We go back to the factor on censored Kadija. Michelle
- 18:12Brown is accused of shooting her husband, Jeremy Brown, to death. This
- 18:17happened in Mississippi Saturday morning over the weekend. Now, according to investigators,
- 18:22they got into an argument about him not cooking for the kids before he had
- 18:26to go to work, among other things. That argument turned physical and ended
- 18:32with the fatal shooting, which played out on a Facebook live stream. Trying,
- 18:41now you want to go tell your band about this, about that you
- 18:42want to do this. I ain't trying to argue a tragic reminder that men
- 18:56are also or could be victims in the domestic violence. But we have to
- 19:00watch and see what happens and what plays out in this investigation. So we
- 19:06don't want to be quick to say he was a victim of domestic vie.
- 19:08We just don't know what happened. Now Brown isn't police custody tonight? That
- 19:12mean that being the wife. Police say there was a history of domestic violence
- 19:17between Brown and the victim. They didn't say who on which side who was
- 19:23committing the domestic violence. Joining me now for the conversation tonight we have with
- 19:29us trauma therapist Childwin and the director of Violence Prevention and Training at the Houston
- 19:33Area Women's Center, Michelle Sachs. Got to have you all here on the
- 19:37Factor on sense. You know, and I listened to that video and we
- 19:41all listen and it in all honesty. You hear her say I didn't know
- 19:47if there was a gun in the chamber, and you hear us say there
- 19:52was something else. You said, I didn't mean to pull the trigger.
- 19:56But it's it's it's like, we have to figure out what happen here.
- 20:00We just don't know the details yet. But we do know a couple of
- 20:03things, Isaiah. There was a predictator, there was a gun in the
- 20:07house, and a history of domestic violence. Someone's going to die with a
- 20:11gun, and a history of domestic violence. Whether the perpetrator was the wife
- 20:15or the husband. Now we've got a family that's destroyed, kids who have
- 20:19lost one or both of their parents potentially, But you're right, it could
- 20:22go both ways. Was the woman a victim in this case and she perpetrated
- 20:29this crime out of self defense? We know of a lot of justified homicides.
- 20:32There are a lot of women coming out of the prison system killing their
- 20:34intimate partner or spouses because of that history. So we don't know everything quite
- 20:40yet. And we lost a video where we could see maybe what was happening,
- 20:44but we only hear audio. So what did you ascertain from that audio?
- 20:48Well? I heard it. Well, I think when she says that
- 20:52she didn't mean to right, she didn't need to pull the trigger. I
- 20:55think it's stating that she had it right, that she had the gun.
- 20:57But you know, as child with and what we know now is that if
- 21:03there's a firearm in the house and there's domestic violence going on, it can
- 21:07be up to like five hundred times as likely that, like she said,
- 21:11someone's going to die, there's going to be a homicide and typically the victim.
- 21:15And when you guys, they throw in social media and they're on display
- 21:21for the whole world to see, and they know this, So you get
- 21:23more attitude, you get more violence with people because they know people are watching.
- 21:30Yeah, they're putting the person front and center and saying, look at
- 21:33what's happening. The kids are here, the whole world's watching, the internet,
- 21:37my friends, my family members. Now you're more prone to seeing and
- 21:41witnessing the violence. So it's not just within the family unit that domestic violence
- 21:45is happening. Now people are exposed, people are terrorized watching this video.
- 21:52And how sad that these kids have lost their parents. We don't know,
- 21:56but we do know a lot about domestic violence, and I think few would
- 21:59dispute that domestic violence is typically crimes committed by men against women. What makes
- 22:03this unusual is the wifeful the trigger. So how do you help these children
- 22:10recover from this? Michelle? This is this is a tough road that they
- 22:14have to take. Yeah, No, it's definitely going to take a lot
- 22:17of counseling, a lot of therapy, and a lot of support. You
- 22:21know. Again, we just we don't know what the situation is. Um,
- 22:23they've lost one parent, the other one's you know, been arrested.
- 22:29So hopefully there's family that can you know, that can come in and we
- 22:33talk about averice childhood experiences. Look, I'm a trauma therapist. When you
- 22:37are in a family where you witness domestic violence, you can either become a
- 22:41perpetrator yourself or you become a victim. That cycle perpetuates, it repeats itself
- 22:45in the future. Very scary problem and really quick for both of you.
- 22:48When we took a look at what they were arguing over, it was almost
- 22:53frivolous to what we cover typically. You know, there is some violence,
- 22:59there's something ugly going on in the family where one family member pulls the trigger
- 23:03on another. But they're arguing what we heard is him not coming home cooking
- 23:08for the kids before he goes to work. Yeah, there was probably a
- 23:11history of other things going on that was probably that's what that argument was about.
- 23:15Child. That's what they put on on social media, and that's what
- 23:18they streamed live. It was almost frivolous. Yeah, yeah, it's really
- 23:22unfortunate. Clearly there was something else going on there, right, and and
- 23:27there's a history, like the history right there, and then I think whatever
- 23:33it is that led to it, right, the decisions even put this on
- 23:37Facebook live? You know, was it a cry for help? Was it,
- 23:41like Child was saying, to expose it, right, so that other
- 23:44people knew what was going on. It may seem frivolous to us, but
- 23:48again we don't know what was going on in that house. And Isaiah,
- 23:51I hope that when your viewers are watching and they go, oh my gosh,
- 23:53this woman shot her husband, that at least they know that these things
- 23:57are serious. Guns in the house make you more prone to dying, and
- 24:02that there is help out there. We are talking about it in your very
- 24:06big form. You know, Michelle works, they Houston Era, woman's in
- 24:08aurmatroma therapist. There is help and there is hope to get out of this
- 24:12cycle of violence. All right, ladies, thank you for joining us here
- 24:15the factor. Can you hear me now? Can y'all hear me? Now?
- 28:03Is that better? Y'all? I'm just talking. I'm thinking, y'all
- 28:07can hear me? Can y'all hear me? Now? Let me know?
- 28:08Can you hear me? It shouldn't be it shouldn't be muted? Wait,
- 28:15let me hold on. Okay, is that better? Let me know if
- 28:21y'all can hear me now, I'm just over here, just the talking.
- 28:23But let me let me back up to what I was saying. So I
- 28:30say this, let me let me double back. So for those that saw
- 28:34the video, we saw all of this unfold on social media. And so
- 28:45the man in the video clearly told her, I don't want to argue.
- 28:49I'm just trying to get my stuff or I'm just trying to do whatever it
- 28:52is, and I'm trying to go. I'm just trying to go. But
- 28:56then you got her mommy in the background that's gas lighted the whole situation.
- 29:02Mama is heightening the situation, and she's on Facebook. She's, Oh,
- 29:07you want to tell your family, but you got your mama cheerleading for you.
- 29:10On the side. Your mama's on the side cheerleading for you. She's
- 29:15egging on. The situation, which has gotten you excited, has gotten you
- 29:22more angry. Now you've got a gun. He's trying to go. Your
- 29:30four children are in the house, your mama's in the house's eated. Then
- 29:34the gun goes off, the gun goes on. Now you have four children
- 29:45without their parents, all because you made a selfish decision. Then you arguing
- 29:52with him over the fact that he didn't cook dinner for the kids because he's
- 29:56getting ready to go to work. I feel like in a related in a
- 30:03partnership, doesn't it go fifty to fifty? Okay, he didn't coope for
- 30:11the kids. Okay, get up and go cookee for the children so he
- 30:14can go and go to work because bills have to be paid. Hey,
- 30:21let's get a ga. What's good? Good? Good to see your baby,
- 30:22Good to see you? Hey, sis, say hey, So he's
- 30:30telling you, I don't want to argue. I want to go. There's
- 30:34a gun in the house. There's a history as you as as you heard,
- 30:37there's a history of domestic violence. He's leaving shot to fire. Dad
- 30:48is dead. You're gone to jail. Now you've got four children without their
- 30:52parents. I'm gonna say this over and over and over and over and over
- 30:57again, laid ass, keep your goddamn hands to yourself. Stop trying to
- 31:03fight these men. Let them go, Stop trying to hold them hostagen your
- 31:07house. Whatever. If he's cheating, let him go. If you don't
- 31:11want to, if the relationship is not working, people, let him go.
- 31:14What is killing them gonna do? You're still not gonna win in the
- 31:18end, because guess what. Now you're sitting in prison and now he's dead.
- 31:23Now what you did all that for? What? What point are you
- 31:30trying to prove? I'm just I'm lost. I'm so baffled right now because
- 31:37we see this far too often. I've had conversations with men that are victims
- 31:45of domestic violence, and no one takes them serious. And that's the sad
- 31:52part of this, is that there are really men that are really in abusive
- 31:57relationships, and it does not always have to be physical. You have men
- 32:02that are being verbally abused, mentally abused, emotionally abused. You have women
- 32:09out here that are dragon men and making men feel like they are about this
- 32:14big and then you wonder why you by yourself, because at what point do
- 32:23men get tired of that? And it goes with and vice versa. But
- 32:29right now I'm addressing the men. I'm speaking to my brothers, because there
- 32:34are men out here that are real life domestic abuse victims, and no one
- 32:39takes it seriously. Men don't talk. Men are afraid because it's not believable
- 32:46according to society. You know, when a man is saying, oh,
- 32:50I'm an abusive relationship, the first thing in society says is how And you're
- 32:54a man. You're supposed to be strong, You're supposed to take all of
- 32:57that. No, not one man on this earth deserves to be abused,
- 33:01whether it's verbal, whether it's physical, whether it's emotional, whether it's mental.
- 33:06No one, no man deserves that. But some of you women can't
- 33:10get that through your thick ass head. You feel like that's cool. Then
- 33:15you get on Facebook live, you get on Instagram, you get on TikTok
- 33:20insulting your man, putting your man down, while your home girls are cheering
- 33:24you on. Oh girl, yeah, yeah girl, you yeah. Like
- 33:30this young lady's mother was in the background gaslight in the situation, and now
- 33:34this young man's life is old. You got the gun and then you say,
- 33:38oh, I didn't know it was a bullet in the chamber. What
- 33:40did you pick up the gun for? But what these four children that have
- 33:50lost both of their parents are going to definitely need some intense therapy. My
- 33:58heart goes out to these children because they're the real victims in all of this,
- 34:04because they witnessed their mother un alive, their father arguing. Again,
- 34:13we don't know what happened prior to her jumping on Facebook Live, but we
- 34:16saw what happened once she got on Facebook Lab up until we heard the gunshots.
- 34:24But you're gonna live this man for what, Jules says. They suffer
- 34:30in silence. Absolutely, I got my honey, Hi baby, I hope
- 34:36you're having a good night at work. I love you. But we see
- 34:40this far too often women that are killing these men. Some go do jail
- 34:50time, some get a slap on the wrist. I remember when I did
- 34:55my story on Duwayne Haskins, God Rest his soul. Him and the wife
- 35:00got into an altercation in the hotel and he was hit in the mouth and
- 35:05the tooth was knocked out, and some of the comments were sickening to me
- 35:08because some of the women in the in the comments were congratulating this lady on
- 35:13her jumping on this man, saying, oh, he probably deserved it.
- 35:19And I'm gonna say this again, and I maype if some people off,
- 35:22but it doesn't make I don't care you keep that. Let me say this
- 35:27to you ladies, for the ladies that that congratulate women that are verbally,
- 35:31mentally, physically emotionally abusive to their to their husbands or wives or girlfriends or
- 35:38boyfriends, I hope you keep that same energy when that when karma comes back
- 35:42around to you. And I'm gonna stand on that because I think it's absolutely
- 35:49disgusting for you women to think that it's okay to verbally, mentally, physically,
- 35:57and emotionally assault men. I think it's sick if you think that's okay,
- 36:02because when it's done to you, you want us to sympathize and empathize
- 36:07with you. We need to give that same and return to these fellas because
- 36:10it happens far too often. But a lot of y'all don't are not ready
- 36:15to have that conversation. A lot of you women sit up here and try
- 36:21to justify why you do what you do. There's no justification and being abusive
- 36:24to your partner, male or female, there's no excuse, there's no justification
- 36:30for that. You cannot sit up here and tell me that it's okay to
- 36:34be abusive to someone. I don't give a damn where you come from.
- 36:37I don't care how much trauma you've been through. It's not cool to inflict
- 36:42that onto someone else intentionally. Let me say that intentionally, it's not cool
- 36:50to do that. I can speak for myself because I am a domestic abuse
- 36:54survivor. I was with a very abusive man and for five years and it
- 37:01wasn't cool. So, ladies, I want you to keep that same energy
- 37:09that you put out when men say that they are victims of domestic abuse.
- 37:15I want you to give them the same energy and love that you expect for
- 37:20us to give to you. And I'm gonna stand on that. I'm standing
- 37:24tintoes down on that. If you are a man that is a domestic abuse
- 37:30survivor, do not suffer in silence. Baby, Bring it to the forefront,
- 37:36Put it on the table, because we need to know, because we
- 37:38as a community need to figure out what we can do to help you get
- 37:43out of your situation. And I stand on that. There are a lot
- 37:49of people that just can't believe men are victims of domestic violence, and they
- 37:55are. I pulled up some stacks and it says one in four women and
- 38:09one in nine men have experienced domestic violence such as physical violence, sexual violence,
- 38:15and or stalking. So it happens. We see this, we hear
- 38:22about this. We got home girls that do this, and guess what,
- 38:28we ride right on along with him to drive past this house. Old girl,
- 38:31let's put sugar in his gas. Team, let's do this. Let's
- 38:35bust out a window. We're complicit to that behavior with our homegirls. We
- 38:42engage in that. But when the tables turn, why is no one helping
- 38:50me? Why is no one helping me? So tonight, this is from
- 38:59my fellas. This is for my brothers tonight, this is for y'all.
- 39:02I'm talking to y'all tonight. I'm addressing these women for y'all. I'm putting
- 39:07this ship on the table. I'm waking this conversation up because any woman that
- 39:15sits and says that she's okay with doing this to a man, I hope
- 39:21something happened. I hope they lock your ass up. I hope you'll keep
- 39:29that same energy when them tables turn, because let me tell you some karma
- 39:31does not have an expiration date. So when your time comes, keep the
- 39:37same energy. So let's get a GA says, I've been going through this
- 39:45right now. That's why I'm going through a divorce. My soon to be
- 39:49ex wife punched me in my face. She calls a police and tells them
- 39:52I was hitting her. She did not get arrested. I was done,
- 39:57he says. The police told me to my face, we cannot take her
- 39:59to jail because I did not have physical bruises on me. The laws do
- 40:02not favor men. I stand by what. I stand by that when it
- 40:06comes to domestic violence, forwards men, and you know what, bless get
- 40:09a GA. I wholeheartedly believe that because when I lived in Georgia, I
- 40:15was in a relationship with a young man and one particular night they got physical,
- 40:23and I lived in and this was in Atlanta, and the night it
- 40:29happened. I could speak on it now because I, you know, then
- 40:34did the time and everything for the assault. But they took both of us
- 40:38to jail that night. He went to jail because I had like a little
- 40:44like a little bit of tinis scratch across my nose. They took me to
- 40:46jail because his shirt was torn and he told the police that I had chased
- 40:51them around the apartment with a knife. I did, but it was a
- 40:57trigger for me because the guy that I was in a domestic violence relationship with
- 41:02was an alcoholic and a drug at it. So whenever he would come home
- 41:07drunk, it all depends, it depended on what day of a week it
- 41:14was. But anytime he came home drunk or high or whatever, I was
- 41:19afraid. It was almost like I had to I had let me, not
- 41:22even say almost, I had to walk on eggshells. And so this particular
- 41:30night the guy was dealing with when I lived in Atlanta, up had been
- 41:35drinking and you know, he won't thet no go to bed, you know,
- 41:42and that was a trigger for me. So it led to an argument
- 41:47and then it got physical. You know, once he pushed me. I
- 41:52wouldn't grabbed that knife, and all I saw was was read because I wasn't
- 41:58gonna allow you to do that to me. But this is not even about
- 42:02me. I've shared my story. I'm talking to men tonight. But I
- 42:08did not mean to venture off and veer off of what you were saying.
- 42:12Let's get a ga. But I'm surprised that they did not take her to
- 42:17jail. That's really surprising to me. But then again, it's not surprising
- 42:22because they don't believe that men are victims of domestic violence. So I can
- 42:27see why they didn't take her, you know. And it's sad that women
- 42:36there are women out here that actually do this. That's the sickning part of
- 42:42all of this is that there are women really out here that do this and
- 42:45got home girls that are clapping for them in the background, that are celebrating
- 42:51them being abusive to their spouse. And men don't have a safe space to
- 43:00tell this too because they're not believed. People don't believe that men are victims
- 43:05of domestic violence, and they are. You can argue with me all day,
- 43:10but numbers don't lie, you know. I look at this right here,
- 43:19let me move this banner out of the way, and it says men
- 43:22can be victims too. Women are not the only victims of domestic violence and
- 43:27abuse. Men also suffer from domestic domestic abuse, especially verbal and emotional abuse.
- 43:32And maybe even a shame to seek help. And I don't feel like
- 43:39a man should have should be afraid if he's if he's in a domestic violence
- 43:45relationship, he shouldn't have to fear going and telling someone about this. And
- 43:53I and I get why men don't do it because they're not believed pull least
- 44:00don't believe this. The laws don't believe this. They don't believe it until
- 44:06he's killed, and then it's old. The wife was a she was a
- 44:09this was a history of domestic violence, and this was self defense. Some
- 44:15of them are justified, some of them are not. You have women that
- 44:21are stalking these men. When the men break up with them and say they
- 44:23don't want to be with them anymore, they go start stalking the men.
- 44:28They go to the man's job, they're going, they showing up at events
- 44:31that the man is that that's crazy. But you got the home girls in
- 44:37the background. That's like, old girl, come on, let's go,
- 44:39let's pull up on it. I feel like the home girls that are complicit
- 44:49to this, I feel like they asked me to go to jail two.
- 44:54I feel that way too. I know it may not be right, but
- 45:00I feel like if you are riding with your home girl while she's doing this,
- 45:06you need to catch your case to an accessory. I just period.
- 45:13I'm gonna stand on that, whether you agree with me, whether you disagree
- 45:15with me. That's the way I feel. You're ride with your home girl,
- 45:21why she's doing this. You need to be arrested to as an accessory.
- 45:25You really truly need to. And so let's get a jays as my
- 45:34EXAs trifling and she gets that mindset from her trifling ass mama. And that
- 45:37doubles back to the video of Caudijia Brown killing her husband. I believe his
- 45:45name is Jeremy. I'm so sorry. The mama is in the background gaslight
- 45:51in this situation. Mama needs to be charged to because you could have de
- 46:00escalated that situation. You should have pushed your daughter. You should have said
- 46:04you should have pushed your daughter in the room and allowed the husband to go
- 46:07on out the door and go and go to work, and four children would
- 46:10not be without their parents. Because that's who's really suffering that those are the
- 46:15victims, is the children, because not only had they witnessed their parents arguing
- 46:22in front of them, but now the mama has killed the husband has killed
- 46:25the father in front of them, and now the grandmother standing over there looking
- 46:31crazy. I want to know why the grandmother was not arrested. This happened
- 46:37in Mississippi, y'all. This happened in Mississippi. Here's another story, y'all
- 46:45that I found, and this was in Atlanta. So let me roll this
- 46:53and let's keep this conversation rolling, y'all. Let me know your thoughts.
- 46:57Domestic violence against men? Why does this happen? Why? Sisters say they
- 47:04are heartbroken tonight and shocked after finding out the woman who admitted to killing their
- 47:08brother will not be tried in his death. Investigators say Bret Zachary was stabbed
- 47:14to death by his wife, Roxanne, back in twenty twenty. Police called
- 47:16it a domestic altercation, and Roxanne said it was self defense. She was
- 47:22released from jail yesterday. Our Palla Sero was joining us now in studio,
- 47:25and Pella, you spoke with his family today. Absolutely, you know.
- 47:28Bret Zachary's sisters and mother have been seeking justice for nearly three years now.
- 47:34They felt some relief when his wife was arrested and charged with voluntary manslaughter the
- 47:38day after his death, but they tell me they believe the judge's decision to
- 47:43not allow this case to go to trial takes all the relief away. I've
- 47:46never felt more betrayed by the justice system ever. Bret Zachary's family shocked that
- 47:52the woman responsible for stabbing him leading to his death is now free. That
- 47:57woman, Roxanne Zachary, was his wife and was charged with voluntary manslaughter,
- 48:00but this week, a Grenette County judge granted her immunity after a January hearing,
- 48:06and she was released from jail Tuesday. Growing up, I saw a
- 48:08lot of injustice, but never in a million years would I have thought that,
- 48:15with the preponderance of evidence that was against her, that she would walk
- 48:20out of jail. Court documents showed Roxanne claimed she acted in self defense.
- 48:23His sisters say that while the couple had a history of domestic violence, multiple
- 48:28witnesses who were not allowed to speak in the immunity hearing saw Roxanne beating Brett
- 48:32multiple times before his death, and I just saw her swing and when she
- 48:37swung, she connected and she hit him in his face and he began to
- 48:40bleed. For that judge to not even consider hearing testimony from if he didn't
- 48:47want to hear from me as one of the co workers. They believe the
- 48:52judge made this decision because of a double standard. Roxanne is like five five
- 48:55maybe one hundred and twenty pounds. Maybe my brother was six one six two
- 49:02military veteran which trained skills heavier than her and could completely have defended himself,
- 49:10but he wasn't that person. Documents also show Roxanne gave different versions of what
- 49:15happened. Quinnette County District Attorney Patsy Austin Gatson tells The Love and Alive that
- 49:20her office asked the court to not grant Roxanne immunity and the DA wanted the
- 49:24case to go to trial. She says the judge and her office did not
- 49:29see ey'd eye on this decision. Is just the overwhelming feeling let down her
- 49:37no justice. Now, we reached out to Roxanne's attorney, but having heard
- 49:40back. Meanwhile, the DA tells me her office will reach out to bred
- 49:44Zachary's family to schedule a face to face meeting to discuss the judge's decision.
- 49:49Meanwhile, his family is holding out hope for justice. And that's right there
- 49:58is what I'm talking about. Had the evidence she stabbed this man to death,
- 50:10and you walked out of a courthouse. He walked out of jail free.
- 50:16And we see this far too often. This happens way, way,
- 50:22way too often. What do we do, y'all? What do we do?
- 50:35So let's get a GA says in that video, your should system.
- 50:37The shoe was on the other foot and he turned up, turned up on
- 50:40her. The mama would have died nine on one quick fascining in a hurry.
- 50:44And that's what I mean when with regards to a double standard, is
- 50:50if it's the man that's that excuse me, that has instigated the situation,
- 50:55he's going to jail, no questions about it. They're not trying to hear
- 51:00him beg and plead and say old she did that. He's going to jail.
- 51:07Nine times out of ten, he's going to jail, or if the
- 51:10police leaven have to come back, he's going to jail. Period. And
- 51:21the sad part about that story, right there, was the fact that they
- 51:27had all the evidence that proved that it was not self defense. But she
- 51:32still walked out of that jail house a free woman, and this man's life
- 51:39is over. I remember yesterday, a couple of days ago, I scrolled
- 51:46apostle across another video where a man was saying he was shocked by his wife
- 51:53while he was holding their child. So, of course, you know the
- 51:58wife went to jail, she got out, and when she shot him,
- 52:02he was holding their child, their son. I believe in in his arms.
- 52:07Wife gets out, she moves on, she's in a new relationship.
- 52:12She kills her boyfriend and buries him in her grave because she found out he
- 52:17was cheating on her. So that's what I mean when I say, if
- 52:24he's cheating on your baby, ain't no man out here worth my freedom.
- 52:31I'm not gonna kill for what. I'm not gonna kill you for what,
- 52:37Because who really wins? Who really wins in that? I find out you're
- 52:44cheating on me, I kill you, I go to prison for the rest
- 52:46of my life. My children are without him a mother who really wins?
- 52:50Your children are without a dad who really truly is the winner in this?
- 52:57Nobody, nobody wins in this? Why, I tell you so? What
- 53:08goes into Why is it so hard for women to keep their hands to themselves?
- 53:19Why is it so difficult ladies? Why is it so hard for you
- 53:22to walk away? Why is it so hard for you. When a man
- 53:24says, you know what, I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm
- 53:28just trying to go, why do you why? Why do you why do
- 53:30we walk up behind the man? Why do we continue to gas like the
- 53:36situation? Oh, I know why because that's learning behavior, because we want
- 53:40to get our point across, because you're gonna listen to what I'm telling you,
- 53:45this is what we do, and then't guess what, Before you know
- 53:51it, someone ends up, her police are called, someone's going to jail.
- 53:54Then you got a ton of legal feats when you could have just simply
- 54:00out the way and say, you know what, You're right, baby,
- 54:00you're right, you got this, you got this. You could have simply
- 54:06just walked away. But you women, you think you can stand tote a
- 54:12toll with a man. No, stop doing that. Stop verbally assaulting that
- 54:19man. Stop mentally and emotionally abusing this man. Why why are you doing
- 54:25this? Why are you tearing this man down for the next person. I
- 54:37just I really try to wrap my mind around these situations. When he's telling
- 54:50you just let me go. I don't want to argue, man, just
- 54:53I'm just trying to go, man, just move man, move, Get
- 54:58the hell out of that man. Wait, Let that man get out the
- 55:00door before it escalates into something worse, before someone's life ends, and then
- 55:06someone's going to prison. But no one but you women, some of y'all
- 55:13cannot get again. You can't get that through your thick ass skull. You
- 55:15want to run behind him because you want to get the last word. You're
- 55:20trying to prove a point for what what point are you're trying to prove?
- 55:28Let the argument in. Let it play out the way it's gonna play out.
- 55:32Stop trying to hold these men hostage. Baby, Let that man go.
- 55:37It's devastating. Every time you turn on the news, you see where
- 55:44woman finds out husband is cheating and shoots him, and the mistress woman finds
- 55:52boyfriend had a baby on her, shoots the husband or boyfriend or whatever for
- 55:57what. Then you lose your freedom. Then you're sitting behind bars, looking
- 56:05crazy, talking about could have shot a water, what you could have done,
- 56:10what you would have done, or what you should have done. You
- 56:15should have walked away, You could have walked away, you wouldn't be sitting
- 56:21in jail. But now you're locked up because you and your ego, because
- 56:30ain't no man gonna play with you. You're not gonna do me like this.
- 56:36So you're trying to prove a point. Some of your women be on
- 56:40that thin line between love and hate. Shit, man say he don't want
- 56:47to be with you, and I'm old. You're pulling up to his job.
- 56:50You're calling his phone. He blocked you. You're calling from a different
- 56:52number. He blocked you again. You're all on his social media page.
- 56:58You're talking in social media page. You got your home girl, You're gonna
- 57:00look at this page? Who is that beachy with? That's sickening to me,
- 57:07disgusting to me, all because this man says, I don't want to
- 57:15be with you anymore, or I'm not trying to argue with you, So
- 57:22you instigate the fight. You push and push and push and push to the
- 57:30man pushes back and out. He's going to jail because now all of a
- 57:32sudden, you're the victim, when really you were the antagonist. You provoke
- 57:37this, you're the little girl that cried wolf. And then when this really
- 57:45happens, if you really truly are a victim of the mess about, no
- 57:50one's taking you Seriously, Why is this so hard for women to keep their
- 57:58hands to themselves. What is hitting him gonna do? What is slapping him
- 58:02gonna do? What is all that gonna do? What is jumping in his
- 58:07face gonna do? My brother, let's get a gas sharing his story.
- 58:14He's a victim. The wife. It's almost like your women. I don't
- 58:37know if you're seeking some type of control? Is this a control thing?
- 58:40What is it that you feel like you have to you have to treat your
- 58:45spouse this way? Let me know, fellas, like, what do you
- 58:52think why why do you think women do this? Women? Why do you
- 58:57think we do this? I think it's more for a sense of control,
- 59:04you know, when you go back and like I said, you look at
- 59:07Dawayne Haskins. I just was reading a story the other day, the girl
- 59:13Loving Hip Hop or whatever. Brittany Taylor was accused of allegedly beating a baby
- 59:22daddy with a bag, but she says old he was abusive to me.
- 59:27But if he's ABC D E F G, then why do you stay?
- 59:34I know it's not easier to walk away from a domestic violence relationship. I
- 59:37know it's not. I've been in one, so I understand wholeheartedly. But
- 59:45if he's doing all of this. Why keep having babies with him? Why
- 59:49stay with him? No man deserves to be abused. No man, And
- 1:00:01I'm telling you this, fellas, you don't deserve this. You deserve to
- 1:00:07be happy, just like we women want to be happy. You have friends
- 1:00:15and family that instigate this, that gas like these situations. Girl, get
- 1:00:23him, get him, girl. He probably deserved it. Anyway, those
- 1:00:27are some of the comments that I saw when Dwayne Haskins was assaulted by his
- 1:00:32wife. The comments the women, Oh he probably deserved it. What did
- 1:00:38he do? Now? Your victim blieming, regardless of what he did,
- 1:00:45does not warrant you women to put your hands on these men. So keep
- 1:00:47your hands to yourself. Stop playing in these men face. Stop all of
- 1:00:52that. But what maybe God, God didn't stop at that one man.
- 1:00:59I know you love him, or you in love or lust or whatever you
- 1:01:01want to call him a baby. It's it's many men out here that are
- 1:01:06gonna do right by you, but you want to be abusive to this.
- 1:01:17So again, ladies, why is it so hard for you to keep your
- 1:01:23hands to yourself? Why what is that gonna prove? You're slapping him in
- 1:01:30the face? What is that gonna prove he gonna get up and leave you,
- 1:01:37and then you're gonna be sitting out that boy yourself, looking crazy and
- 1:01:40trying to figure out why did he leave you? Because he got tired of
- 1:01:43you. He got tired of you talking to him like he was crazy.
- 1:01:45He got tired of you hitting on him, slapping him all in the face.
- 1:01:50He got sicker all of that. That's why he left you. Then
- 1:01:58you're trying to play the victim in your next relationship and say, oh,
- 1:02:00well, you know he was this, he was that, when really it
- 1:02:04was you for some of your ladies aren't ready for that conversation. Some of
- 1:02:09your ladies aren't ready to take accountability for some of the things that you do.
- 1:02:16I know that's a tough pill to swallow, baby, but I'm telling
- 1:02:19you, let let accountability to set you free. Walk away. If a
- 1:02:28relationship gets to a point where it's physical, somebody needs to walk away,
- 1:02:31because you know what's gonna happen. Nine times out of ten, someone's gonna
- 1:02:36end up dead or behind bars for a very long time because someone did not
- 1:02:40choose to walk away. Because we, as a woman, we have to
- 1:02:45get the last word. He says something we got to come back. What
- 1:02:50I thought, that's what you say, and you been out saying nothing,
- 1:02:52and we just keep going and going. We don't know when they'll be quiet.
- 1:03:00We don't know when, but we're glad we gassed. Like a lot
- 1:03:07of these situations, and then we want to jump on social media, we
- 1:03:10want to get family involved for what to escalate him and make this even worse,
- 1:03:22which in the case of Kadisiah Brown, your mother made it worse.
- 1:03:29The mama should have said, pull up, Kadisia, k Now, we're
- 1:03:32not gonna do this. The mama should have stepped in. But guess what,
- 1:03:36I'm almost willing to bet that the mama asks just like this. I'm
- 1:03:40almost willing to put money on it. This is the way the mama asks
- 1:03:43that. The mama asks just like this, foolish, just like this.
- 1:03:50I'm willing to believe that. But again, in that situation, there's no
- 1:03:55winners because again, like I told you, you have four children without a
- 1:04:01mama and a daddy. Yeah, mama maybe out of out of jail for
- 1:04:06temporarily, but when she goes to regular court, Mama's going to do some
- 1:04:15time. Again, we don't know what happened prior to that, but again
- 1:04:23there were reports of just being a history of domestic violence in this relationship.
- 1:04:31Why do we hold I guess maybe I'll never understand why we hold onto toxicity.
- 1:04:40I never understand that. And men are suffering in silence. They can't
- 1:04:45talk to anybody because no one's listening to them. They don't believe that men
- 1:04:50are victims when they are. Look at the Rcally tribe. Everyone forgot about
- 1:04:57the two boys that testified against our Kelly because they were so focused on the
- 1:05:01women. Because that's what society has betrayed. That's the narrative that men are
- 1:05:08not victims of domestic violence. We saw it unfold right in front of our
- 1:05:12very eyes with Johnny Depp and Amber heard. We saw it unfold. We
- 1:05:21saw it, We saw it, but yet nothing's being done. So I
- 1:05:34want to play this last video, jump into the last comment for tonight,
- 1:05:40and then I want to talk about share my final thoughts and talk about some
- 1:05:44of the upcoming episodes or a Black Girl Interrupted Soul. Here we go,
- 1:05:49and welcome back to the factor. I'm sentured. It's a strong reminder that
- 1:05:54there is a two way street when it comes to domestic violence. Police say
- 1:05:58Gregory Kirk was shot and killed while visiting his three year old son in Pasadena,
- 1:06:02Texas. Kurt's family said he was a victim of domestic violence and abuse
- 1:06:08by his ex wife before she allegedly shot and killed him in front of their
- 1:06:13child. Now Samantha Washington reportedly had plans to kill herself, but she was
- 1:06:17arrested by police before she could do that. Joining us now on the factor
- 1:06:21on censi to talk about domestic violence and abuse when it comes to men is
- 1:06:27Shall Win with the Houston Area Women Center. A lot of people chow almost
- 1:06:31joke about men being the victims of domestic violence, but this case is a
- 1:06:38strong reminder of how serious and how deadly it can be. Men are victims
- 1:06:44too. That's what people need to know. They are not excused from domestic
- 1:06:49violence. They don't get a hall pass. In this case, it is
- 1:06:53really no joke. Somebody died allegedly at the hands of his partner because he
- 1:06:58was a victim of domestic violence. People need to know that men oftentimes are
- 1:07:04afraid to come forward because of the stigma or the ridicule we are in the
- 1:07:11society where we think a man needs to man up and buck up, and
- 1:07:14how could a woman harm him when we know one and four of men is
- 1:07:17a victim of domestic violence. Wow, that's a huge number when you think
- 1:07:23about it, one and four. And it's also a major societal problem that
- 1:07:28we have this stigma attached to men being victims of domestic violence. And so
- 1:07:34we all as a society will have to work on this problem so people won't
- 1:07:40fear coming forward telling their story and their situation of abuse. We hear it
- 1:07:46all the time. Not only do they fear coming forward or facing stigma,
- 1:07:50but they fear not being believed that somebody will think they're the perpetrator and not
- 1:07:57the victim. We've got to change that narrat Men suffer in silence. Oftentimes
- 1:08:02they don't even report to the police because they are afraid that the evidence won't
- 1:08:08weigh against them or people won't believe them. We need to know that men
- 1:08:12can be victims because it's not a gender issue. This is an issue domestic
- 1:08:15violence is an issue of power and control. Who wields and exerts their threats,
- 1:08:21intimidation, physical violence over another person, and sometimes it can be women.
- 1:08:30In this case, Gregory Kirk has already gone dead, the victim of
- 1:08:35domestic violence and a deadly shooting by his ex wife, according to police and
- 1:08:41his family. If someone is going through a situation like that, that chow,
- 1:08:46we're talking about men, what should they do? What should be their
- 1:08:49first step? You know, we talk about this a lot in the space
- 1:08:54we work. If it's predictable, it is preventable. And by that I
- 1:08:59mean what were some of the warning signs? Was there stocking, verbal threat,
- 1:09:03intimidation? Was there a history of violence? We need people to know
- 1:09:08you don't have to be a woman to call the Houston Area Woman Center.
- 1:09:11Who can be a man called for support. Our hotline is twenty four seven,
- 1:09:15free of charge, confidential. That's where you can learn about safety planning,
- 1:09:20planning your safety. Is there a gun in a house? Do you
- 1:09:24have an exit plan that may save you your life? People need to know
- 1:09:30that if it's predictable, there's a history of violence, there's a gun in
- 1:09:33the house, it could be preventable. And just because we're the Houston Area
- 1:09:38Woman Center doesn't mean that you can't call if you're a man or you know
- 1:09:42somebody who might be suffering. Now I'll listen, look at the people around
- 1:09:45the victim. If it's a male, what should we be doing. If
- 1:09:48we're family members or friends and we see that they're going through a situation like
- 1:09:54this. Apparently in mister Kurt's case, his family apparently knew, So what
- 1:10:00advice would you give? Family members? And France, we often talk about
- 1:10:06something we call the three rs to recognize, respond, and refer. Listen
- 1:10:12without judgment, be that compassionate ear that he needs. If he's talking about
- 1:10:17a history of violence, say this doesn't have to happen to you. You
- 1:10:23don't deserve this. The worst thing that anyone can hear is how could he
- 1:10:27do that to you? How could she do that to you? Why don't
- 1:10:29you just leave? Those aren't reassuring. It doesn't come from a place of
- 1:10:33support. It comes across as judgmental. So listen, respond with kindness,
- 1:10:39with compassion, and then finally refer, tell alone that helps available, that
- 1:10:45they're not alone, that they can be believed, and that resources like the
- 1:10:48Houston Area Women's Center are available for them to just pick up the phone.
- 1:10:53We have a live chat now on our website as well. There are avenues
- 1:10:57where people can get support and healing so they can live a life free of
- 1:11:01violence and end the violence that they might be endured. All right, child,
- 1:11:05when with the Houston Area Women's Center, and we want to send our
- 1:11:09condolences to the family of Gregory Kirk. We'll be back with more factor I'm
- 1:11:13censored in just a moment. So again we're seeing and hearing you men being
- 1:11:27afraid to speak out for fear that they won't be believed, for fear that
- 1:11:35no one's gonna take them Seriously, men feel like they have nowhere to turn,
- 1:11:43which needs to change the stigma when it comes to domestic violence against men
- 1:11:56I think needs to be taken as seriously as domestic violence again as women,
- 1:12:01because as you just heard, they don't take domestic violence against men seriously.
- 1:12:09They don't believe that this can happen to men. They just they don't believe
- 1:12:13that men are y'all are supposed to toughen. Y'all are big, bad,
- 1:12:17tough guys. Do you know how you letting this woman do this to you
- 1:12:20or that to you? It happens. And again, when it comes to
- 1:12:25domestic violence, it does not necessarily mean it's physical. It could be verbal
- 1:12:30abuse, it could be emotional abuse. So it's not always physical. I
- 1:12:36don't you know, and I can understand why when they say domestic violence,
- 1:12:41we automatically think physical. But we also have to throw in the in the
- 1:12:45fact that you can verbally abuse your partner, you can mentally and emotionally abuse
- 1:12:50someone telling them that they're worthless. That's mental abuse, that's emotional abuse because
- 1:12:58you're tearing down a person of esteem. And yes, it happens to men
- 1:13:05more times than your guys cared a thing. It happens. So leads me
- 1:13:14to this last scenario. Would you want a woman to treat your son this
- 1:13:26way? So, ladies, I'm talking to you because you have you may
- 1:13:33or may not have a son the way you mistreat this man. How would
- 1:13:39you feel if this was your son? How would you feel if you had
- 1:13:42a woman that was doing this to your son. You'd be ready to go
- 1:13:45over there and fight and kill her and all types of stuff, wouldn't you.
- 1:13:54But if that's how you feel, you need to stop and think that
- 1:13:58this is someone's son that you're doing and this too, this is someone's child,
- 1:14:02this is somebody's brother that you're doing this too. So before you decide
- 1:14:09you want to be physically emotionally abusive to a man. Think about your son,
- 1:14:18and how would you feel if a woman mistreated your son that exact same
- 1:14:24way. Would you like it? Would it feel good to you? Or
- 1:14:30would you be encouraging your son to leave that situation? Would you be trying
- 1:14:32to make it, help help plan an escape to get your son out of
- 1:14:36that situation. That's what we need to do, y'alls. As a people,
- 1:14:45we have to start addressing these issues head on. We have to start
- 1:14:51bringing conversations like this to the forefront. We have to continue doing this.
- 1:14:59We have to start allowing our fellas to feel safe to share their stories because
- 1:15:04men are embarrassed. Men. Men can't tell excuse me, they can't tell
- 1:15:11people that I'm being abused because they're not taken seriously. And as you heard
- 1:15:17one and four men are victims of domestic violence. Whether it's a straight relationship,
- 1:15:25whether it's gay, bisexual, whatever, whatever it is, men are
- 1:15:31going through the same thing. And what can we do better to help these
- 1:15:39men? What can we do to say you know what I got you,
- 1:15:45I believe you. How can I help you? But we got to create
- 1:15:51some safe plait, safe spaces for these men to be able to come sit
- 1:15:55down and talk to us and say, hey, and my wife or my
- 1:15:59girlfriend, my husband and my boyfriend, whatever the situation is. We need
- 1:16:02to make it safe for these men to be able to sit down and talk
- 1:16:05to us and say, hey, you know what, I'm a victim.
- 1:16:12So again, ladies, you have a son, you may have two sons,
- 1:16:15You may even you know a daughter. Would you want your child?
- 1:16:20Would you want this for your child? Again, ladies, I want you
- 1:16:26to think about this. The next time you hop up in that man's face,
- 1:16:29the next time you slap that man, the next time you throw something
- 1:16:32at that man, I want you to put your son in those very same
- 1:16:35shoes because that man that you're doing that too, that's someone's son. And
- 1:16:43then you come back and you let me know if you feel like that's acceptable.
- 1:16:48If you don't feel like if it's acceptable, then stop doing it,
- 1:16:56because baby, I'm here to tell you them table's gonna show enough turn you
- 1:17:00do this to somebody's son. Somebody's gonna do this to your son, and
- 1:17:05that's not fair. There's no man that walks this earth that need that should
- 1:17:14be mistreated verbally, physically, mentally, emotionally. He doesn't deserve that even
- 1:17:23you mothers that are abusive to your children, that have torn your son's self
- 1:17:28esteemed out, he doesn't deserve that. He deserves to be happy and healthy
- 1:17:35in a beautiful relationship, not having to come home and listen to you scream
- 1:17:40and yell and arguing. You're slapping him in the face and you're telling him
- 1:17:44he ain't worth shit. Because we show empathy to you, so that needs
- 1:17:53to be reciprocated to our men, because our men are really truly out here
- 1:17:59suffering silence. So again, ladies, would you want a woman to treat
- 1:18:05your son the same way? Do you think that it's acceptable for you to
- 1:18:11mistreat these men the way that you do and not expect it to come back
- 1:18:15to your son or sons? It's not acceptable. And to you fellas that
- 1:18:26are going through this, it's not your fault because I know people love to
- 1:18:30victims shame or they love to point the finger and say, oh, what's
- 1:18:34the victim's spout? But what did you do to provoke her? No,
- 1:18:41I don't care what you did. What's the oil of saying? Sticks and
- 1:18:46stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me. They do.
- 1:18:56The external bruises may go away, But it's the internal bruise using that
- 1:19:00lasts a lifetime. But some of you women are ready to have that conversation
- 1:19:08though. Some of you are that homegirl that rides around with your homegirl to
- 1:19:13go stalk this man. Y'all are stalking in social media sites. That's why
- 1:19:19some of y'all ain't saying okay, because this is what you do. You
- 1:19:28think it's acceptable for her to go up there and put sugar in this man
- 1:19:32gass ting. You think it's acceptable to go and poke holes in its tires.
- 1:19:36You think it's succeptable to put a snick up on his gas team.
- 1:19:40You women, some of you women that ride along with your home girls and
- 1:19:43you know what her intend is. Y'all feel like this is okay. But
- 1:19:45when those tables turn, when karma turns around to bite you in your ass,
- 1:19:49I want you to keep that same energy. That's what I want to
- 1:19:56happen. So again, it's not acceptable, ladies. If you don't want
- 1:20:01it done to you, then don't do it to anybody else. If you
- 1:20:04don't want that carment to come back to your children, then stop stop doing
- 1:20:08that that bull caring that you're doing. Stop playing like that. You men
- 1:20:18walk away from those types of relationships. Stop sitting in the midst of toxicity,
- 1:20:24because I see it all the time on social media. We see it
- 1:20:27on these reality shows where men stay or they leave and the woman gets mad
- 1:20:36because he decides he's ready to go. He decides he's tired of you beating
- 1:20:42him down. So now you're mad because he left, So now you're stalking
- 1:20:46him. Now you're up there at his job acting a fool. So he
- 1:20:49loses his job. So guess what, he can't pay child support, So
- 1:20:54now you even more mad. Now, oh you're a deadbeat. Oh now
- 1:20:59you don't take care of your kids. Well, he lost his job number
- 1:21:02one because you carriage your ass up there to his job and clown because this
- 1:21:11man said he no longer wanted to be with you. So your figure,
- 1:21:19I'm gonna go up and I'm gonna make him want me. No, baby,
- 1:21:23let me tell you something. Anytime you gotta make a man, won't
- 1:21:25you let him go? Stop getting out here, y'all risk again. Y'all
- 1:21:30out here risking your freedom for what. In the case of Kadizia Brown,
- 1:21:39four children have lost their parents. Four mama's going to prison. Dad is
- 1:21:45in a cemetery, So who's really the victims? Those children, those babies
- 1:21:55didn't deserve that. Those those children deserve to grow old with their daddy.
- 1:22:02But because the mama made a very selfish decision that has not only affected her,
- 1:22:11but those four children that you're gonna one day have to sit down and
- 1:22:15explain to them why you kill their daddy. And I don't think you.
- 1:22:19I don't even believe you know why you did so, sad, I just
- 1:22:32let me put these resources up to any man that is in a domestic violence
- 1:22:43relationship. Let me move this this banner out of the weight. You're never
- 1:22:51alone. What I have up here on the screen is the National Domestic Violence
- 1:22:58Hotline. This number, it's available twenty four hours, seven days or week,
- 1:23:03three hundred and sixty five days, three to sixty six y'all of his
- 1:23:06leap year. And those are phone numbers you could text or call. You
- 1:23:17can text if you feel uncomfortable with talking, you could chat, call somebody.
- 1:23:29Fellas, you don't deserve this. Your men don't. Y'all, y'all
- 1:23:36don't deserve to be abused, no matter the circumstance. You men don't.
- 1:23:55But again y'all. One in four women and one in nine men have experienced
- 1:24:00domestic violence, whether it's physical, sexual violence and or stalking. That's all
- 1:24:12domestic violence. Sickening, y'all, sicker knee? Why why, ladies again,
- 1:24:34that man said he don't want to be with your baby. Let that
- 1:24:36man go. Let that man go his way. If he say he don't
- 1:24:41want to August, stop arguing with him, let him go. Let's let's
- 1:24:44let me, let me say this. Pola has always prevailed because in the
- 1:24:49heat of the moment, you may say or do something that you may or
- 1:24:53may not regret. So we have to be mindful of where we are in
- 1:24:58our thoughts and our feelings and our emotions. We have to learn how to
- 1:25:00control those emotions and stop reacting over things that are just so minor, because
- 1:25:10we end up with situations such as the case of Kadizia Brown. She and
- 1:25:17our feelings on Facebook. She wants the whole world of being our business.
- 1:25:24You're un alive, your husband in front of your four children. They didn't
- 1:25:33deserve that. Those babies did not deserve that. Those children did not ask
- 1:25:38for that. But because you so selfishly took their father away from them,
- 1:25:43because you were mad, the kids were mad. You were mad when you
- 1:25:47could have just simply went an erra, just fixed something. You didn't have
- 1:25:50to. What was the gun for? Because to me, that sounds like
- 1:25:55intent. To me, that sounds premeditated. To me, it sounded like
- 1:25:58you wanted to do something too. And that's just my perception. That may
- 1:26:01not be the truth, but that's what that sounds like to me. What
- 1:26:04did you need to you know, the gun for? What made you go
- 1:26:09pick up the gun anyway? Was it to scare him? What was it
- 1:26:12to do? I guess maybe we just have to wait until the trialncy what
- 1:26:21the outcome isn't let the jury decide. I feel like you need to go
- 1:26:29to prison for the rest of your life. That's how I feel. You
- 1:26:36Let me know what you think. Let me know how you feel. What
- 1:26:41do you think? Because I really feel like this woman and her mamma need
- 1:26:48to be charged. The wife has already been trying to believe that. I
- 1:26:53feel like the mamma needs to be as an accessory because you gasped at the
- 1:26:57situation. You did nothing to de escalate the situation. But now you can
- 1:27:01have four children without their mom and they dad four children, so they're no
- 1:27:10winners and no winners because you found out he was cheating, so or you
- 1:27:18find out he's doing this, you find out he had a baby on you,
- 1:27:23whatever, but now you want to un alive him. But what it's
- 1:27:31not worth the baby, it's not worth doing no time behind no man,
- 1:27:35It's not worth risking your freedom behind the man who you're losing the end anyway,
- 1:27:43because he's moved on to someone else. And you're sitting up here in
- 1:27:45jail, and now this woman is laughing at you, calling you the dummy,
- 1:27:56and she is out here living her best life with your with the person
- 1:28:00it should have been your man. Now who really won? Who is really
- 1:28:05the winner? Which brings me to my final thoughts, y'all, Domestic violence
- 1:28:20is never okay. It's never okay. It's never okay to put your hands
- 1:28:26on someone. Then your parents teach you to keep your hands to yourself.
- 1:28:34And yeah, I'm addressing you women because I've addressed you men. But you
- 1:28:43women, stop running up on these men when they're trying to go, Stop
- 1:28:45running up on them. Let them go, let them go, let them
- 1:28:46go out the door, girl, let them go. And then when you
- 1:28:50calm down. When he calms down, then y'all sit down and have a
- 1:28:54conversation. But all that jump it on social media? What was the point
- 1:28:58you were trying to prove? Why is that always the first thing we do
- 1:29:04when when things not going right? That's all we want to do is jump
- 1:29:08on social media for what we witness you kill your husband. Well, I'm
- 1:29:18sorry, we didn't physically see, but we heard it. We heard it.
- 1:29:29But when it comes to domestic violence against the men, this needs to
- 1:29:32be taken more. This needs to be taken a little more seriously. If
- 1:29:39we have that same energy that we pour into women who are victims of domestic
- 1:29:42violence, we need to continue that when it comes to men. I think
- 1:29:45empathy and sympathy needs to go across the board for both men and for women
- 1:29:48because they're victims, are both genders. So what do we do? I'm
- 1:30:04just it took it, just you know, this conversation and night took me
- 1:30:11all the way back to my life as a domestic abuse survivor listening to this
- 1:30:16woman kill her murder her husband on live Looking at a lot of these stories,
- 1:30:20excuse me, y'all, looking at a lot of these stories where these
- 1:30:23women have killed their husbands because the husband's no longer don't want to be with
- 1:30:28them anymore, They've caught the husband cheating or whatever the situation is. We've
- 1:30:31seen this, and Noah doesn't always result in ending death, but someone ends
- 1:30:40up going to jail for what? For what? Some of you ladies need
- 1:30:53some intense damn therapy, baby, I tell y'all. On that note,
- 1:30:59I'm gonna say his ladies, keep your damn hands to yourself. You don't
- 1:31:02want that man putting his hands on you, then don't put your stop putting
- 1:31:05your hands on him, period. Fellas. I understand, baby, I
- 1:31:12get it, but stop letting these women be abusive to you, whether it's
- 1:31:17physical, whether it's verbal, whether it's mentally. That's not right. That's
- 1:31:27not right. It is not not not right, and it needs to end.
- 1:31:38Oh, y'all. On that note, I'm sorry I rushed through this
- 1:31:42episode tonight, but y'all know, like I said, like I stated earlier,
- 1:31:45I'm literally having a lupa's flare up and I just have to get on
- 1:31:49here and push through soul. Upcoming episodes for a Black Girl interrupted Soul tomorrow
- 1:31:58night again, I wanted to discuss relationships. But I have to bring another
- 1:32:01story to the forefront, and this is a near dear personal situation and encounter
- 1:32:06that I'm going through right now, and that is the man that un alive
- 1:32:13my niece is now contacting me. So I want to talk about this tomorrow.
- 1:32:19I want to know what more can we do as a family to prevent
- 1:32:27this from happening to someone else? What can we do to stop this man
- 1:32:30from contacting as tomorrow's conversation. And then, of course, y'all, Monday
- 1:32:39made the first kicks off Mental Health Awareness Month, so every episode for the
- 1:32:45month of May will be in regards to mental health. I am gonna put
- 1:32:51together a special Mother's Day episode because I want to salute the mothers, whether
- 1:32:57you are biological mother, whether you're a stepmother, whether you're a firm mom,
- 1:33:02either way it goes. I want to give all the moms across the
- 1:33:05world their flowers. You deserve it. And then June we will start our
- 1:33:14panel on relationships. I cannot wait. I'm excited for that one for June.
- 1:33:23But yeah, May first kicks of Mental Health Awareness Month, and again
- 1:33:30I will be addressing every topic with regards to mental health, anxiety, depression,
- 1:33:36schizophrenic, bipolar PTSD, and I will continue to fight to help remove
- 1:33:46the stigma from around the black community when it comes to mental health because it's
- 1:33:55being swept under the rug. Y'all are uncomfortable talking about it. Manner committing
- 1:34:00suicide, that black men are committing suicides at higher rates than white men.
- 1:34:05So I'm gonna address that. I want to wait that conversation up. So
- 1:34:15those are the upcoming episodes for Black Girl Interrupted. Again. Tomorrow night,
- 1:34:19I'm gonna be discussing the man that murdered my niece has now been contacting me,
- 1:34:28has recently been contacting me, sending me messages. But we'll get deep
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- 1:38:38is like so stiff, uh and my legs hurt so again tomorrow night.
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- 1:39:00thirty Central time, nine thirty Eastern time. Again, I just want to
- 1:39:05say thank you. I love you guys so so much for all the continuous
- 1:39:10support that you guys show me day in and day out. I appreciate the
- 1:39:15patience and the grace that y'all continue to give me. So again, tomorrow
- 1:39:20night, eight thirty Central time, nine thirty Eastern time, I will be
- 1:39:27discussing and going into a little more detail with regards to the murder of my
- 1:39:30niece and how this murderer, this monster, this demonic spirit is now starting
- 1:39:35to contact me and I will be posting some of the messages that he's been
- 1:39:42sending. So I love you, guys, I really do. I hope
- 1:39:46you guys have a great rest of your night. Again, Happy Wednesday.
- 1:39:50I hope tomorrow is better for you regardless of what happened today, Leave it
- 1:39:57on today and praying know that tomorrow will be a better day. And I
- 1:40:02love your love, Your love you, and I will see y'all tomorrow night.
- 1:40:06See you later.