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One Year of Banter at the Bedside: Burnout, Growth & What Healthcare Taught Us · Banter At The Bedside

• 0:06
  SPEAKER_00: Hey everyone, and welcome back to Banter at the Bedside.
• 0:10
  SPEAKER_00: I'm one of your main co-hosts, Abby, and I'm a nurse practitioner.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm joined by our other main co-host, Kaylee, an ICU nurse or former ICU nurse turned soft nurse era of 18 years.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_03: Hey everybody, welcome back.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_00: And we're here today with a very different episode than what we've done.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_00: It's just the two of us.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_00: And we're here to reflect because this is our one-year anniversary.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_00: Woo! We've been putting out episodes pretty consistently for you all for the last 365 days.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_00: And we wanted to take some time to reflect on this milestone.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_00: What have we learned?
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_00: What have we liked?
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe not liked, and just kind of reflect on it and take time to thank all of our listeners out there.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_00: But before we dive in, we have to get through those pesky disclaimers.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_00: This is not medical advice.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_00: Please seek the care of your own medical professional.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_00: All of our thoughts and opinions are our own.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_00: We don't represent any entity at all.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_00: And we are in the comfort of our own homes as we have been for every single episode.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_00: And that is so that we can have the freedom to talk.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_00: Kaylee, can you believe we've been doing this for a year now?
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_00: Really over a year, because we started recording episodes before we put them out.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_03: I was about to say we've been recording for a while.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_03: No, I mean, I feel like it has flown by, honestly.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_00: I can't believe it's been a year.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like all of a sudden I was like looking at the calendar and I was like, oh my gosh, we're at the year mark of episodes coming out.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we gotta do something, like we gotta celebrate this together.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_03: I know.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_03: We should we should have gotten some champagne or something to do a post over the over the diet coke.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_03: I have a plain water.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_03: I can't have the caffeine anymore in the in the afternoons.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_03: I got set straight after our episode.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_00: You got you got scared straight after our caffeine episode.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean a year of podcast episodes is crazy.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, how many people even get to that?
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_00: Not a lot.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_00: Not a lot.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_00: It's like less than 10%, I think.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_00: Don't quote me on that, but I know it's a really small percentage of podcasts that make it to a year mark.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_00: We haven't hit exactly 52 episodes yet, but we're almost there.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_00: We took some time off.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_00: We had to have summer break, we had some spring breaks, holidays, and breaks for our listeners.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_00: But I think that was our summer break where we took the month of September off.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_00: There was a period, I'll say, where I was like, are we even missed?
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_00: And then, like, after about two weeks of us being gone, when we started getting messages of like, when are we going to hear you again?
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_00: When's the next episode?
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, oh, people are listening.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they're like, what's up?
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_00: Where are you?
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_00: And that was just so, I guess, heartwarming, reminded me why we started this to build a community.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_00: And so to know that our communities missed us was a good reminder why we started this.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I agree.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_03: I agree.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_00: What do you think you've learned in the last year?
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_00: Or what has surprised you about this process in the last year?
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_03: I was trying to think about this.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like there have been some positive surprises and also some negative surprises.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I'm gonna start with a positive because I'm, you know, just such an optimistic, yeah, cheerful individual.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_03: Um I really have been surprised by the engagement that we've gotten, not just from like people we know, but like comments that have been left, people like, you know, like sending messages on ideas, people wanting to be on, just on through all the platforms.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_03: I I really have been shocked.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_03: Like, and like you said, it's kind of heartwarming.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_03: It makes you feel good, like, oh, people really care.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_03: And it's not anybody that knows us, it's just people that saw it and were intrigued and it struck something with them.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_03: So I thought that was great.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I agree.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_00: That's been a really nice part, or what I've really enjoyed out of it too, is we feel seen, but it also means that that healthcare worker feels seen.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_00: And that's really what we wanted.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like we wanted all healthcare people to feel seen.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_00: I've really enjoyed the engagement, and I've really enjoyed the engagement that has brought us so many new friends that we probably wouldn't have met outside of this, like Dr.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_00: Tyler.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_00: Pharmacist, Kyle.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_00: Kyle, our pharmacist.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we've had Dr.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_00: Abby, we've gotten to see different sides of even the people within our lives, like Dr.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_00: Armando, Dr.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_00: Louise, Mama got scolded by her on that.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_00: So that's been for me one of the parts I've enjoyed the most.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_00: Our chaplain Linda that we got to have on, all of these amazing people that I really don't think we would have interacted with without this.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_00: Totally.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, your Nana was up here and your Aunt Jen.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_00: The world got to meet Nana and enjoy her.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_00: Thoroughly enjoyed.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_00: Definitely.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_00: She's ready for her return, FYI.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_00: She's like, I'm sure there's questions for me to answer.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, we got them.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_00: Definitely.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_00: Come on.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's what I've enjoyed the most.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_00: I do agree there's been some negatives.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think I anticipated how many people would get upset about what we do, particularly like near us.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_00: And that's been sometimes a little disheartening that people can take something that is meant to be good and turn it into not good.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, we I think part of our break was like we were having a touch point of like, is this worth it?
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, if we're gonna get I don't even want to say negative feedback because nobody talked to us, but if we're gonna have this yeah, like just negativity around it and nothing constructive, nothing with like purpose, just negativity.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_00: And it's this is a side thing for us.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like this is for us to help build community, help healthcare workers.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_00: We do this in our free time, it's more of a hobby.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we don't get paid.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_00: We we have not made a single dime on this at all.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_00: Nothing, nothing.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_00: We we've spent dimes, we have not made any.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like part of the break was us figuring out like, do we want to keep pursuing this?
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_00: Is this worth it in our lives?
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_00: Because we have we both have busy lives and families, and it all kind of takes away, and then that negativity can take away.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's like you know, haters gonna hate, but I just didn't know the amount of dedication that it took to hate hate so hard.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_03: Like I it really I was surprised, I was shocked.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, I didn't think that that was gonna happen, but I think ultimately you and I were just like screw them.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_03: We're not we're doing what we're doing, we're abiding by all the the things we're supposed to be doing, and people are gonna be petty, that's just how they're gonna be.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_00: And at the end of the day, I think there was still despite the negativity, there was more positive out there.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_00: The positive reactions was way more.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_03: I think so.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_00: What has been your favorite like episode that we've done so far this year?
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my god, that's tough.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_03: I really, really liked the others.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_03: I really liked the one where we had Armando and Amanda on and we were talking about how we take care of the patients and like more more than just a patient.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_00: The anti-dehumanizing patients.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_03: That I think was just wonderful.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_03: Just the subject matter and the people that were speaking to it, you know, I would tear up when I listened to it even after I've seen it, listened to it a bunch of times.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_03: And then I really, really like the ones with all the girls with like the the real versus reels on the scrubs things.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_03: Like, because it's it's just like how we would be hanging out, just a little more censored, obviously.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_03: But that just felt like so authentic, and I do think it resonated because those were pretty popular.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_03: What about you?
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_00: I agree.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_00: I think the dehumanizing patient episode we get intro introduced to Armanda, we get introduced to mom and I love your live reaction of finding out I was a nude model.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_00: Like that part tickles me because it's like you know so much about me.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like I this is something that like I don't it I don't keep it hidden.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_00: Like I was actually talking about it today when I was teaching.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_03: I'm always finding something new.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, you've done so much.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was great.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_00: It and the subject matter was just so good and it was so perfect and really kind of embodies what we what we want.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_00: We want those different perspectives and we want to talk about real problems within healthcare.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I I love the real verse real.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't get to react quite as much because I pull them, which is fine, but I love seeing everyone's reactions.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_00: And it to me, it's almost like a time capsule of our friend group, and it feels like even though we're not at the nurses station, like it feels like we're there, and it's like a something we'll be able to hold on to for forever, because the internet's forever, and we'll always be able to like look back at those and laugh together, and I love them.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, I love having like that same sentiment with my nana and getting to have some of those stories recorded forever that I can always reference back to.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_03: I know it's like it's just so nice to have like the people you love with you doing something that you love.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_03: And I know, I mean, like it's so hard to get everybody together, and it's like sometimes that's when we're getting to hang out and yap.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_03: Because we've all like committed to go do it.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_00: And it's we don't have to travel amongst all our houses because despite us all working together, we live very far apart, unfortunately.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_03: I know, just you just never have time to really like do stuff at work.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I didn't think we did.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_00: Mm-mm.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_00: Not at all.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_00: How do you think the podcast has like changed you as a nurse or you as a healthcare worker?
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I don't know that it's changed like anything I do in like when I'm practicing or like working.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_03: I just think that it has sort of like reiterated a lot of the beliefs that I have and made me feel less alone sometimes in like opinions that I've had.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_03: You know, it's like sometimes you have thoughts and you're like, I'm a terrible person because that's what I think.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_03: But it's like you speak to people like you know, across the whole board, like we've had, and it's like everybody's like, no, that's just the reality of things.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_03: And you shouldn't feel bad.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_03: Like I don't know.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_03: And just hearing like the physician's perspectives on a lot of things that I didn't know, I do think that that has like opened up some like I've been enlightened a little bit by that as far as like maybe I gave him a little bit too much of a hard time sometimes.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_00: I wonder if we're talking about one specific doctor.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe our heart has warmed.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe I've just thought out a little bit.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_04: But yeah.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_03: What about you?
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_03: Has it changed anything for you?
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_00: I think it really it really has helped me, I think, combat burnout more than anything else.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: I think it coming on the episodes, being able to talk with everyone, like it's got a level of therapy, seeing other reactions online to our clips, to the episodes, getting feedback from people that listen to the episodes.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_00: It helps me again feel like I'm not alone, that these are real experiences, but it also helps me know that like we're helping people.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_00: We're helping everyone feel seen.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_00: And so it really does kind of combat my burnout more than I think anything else.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_00: And I do I have found it from like a leadership perspective, like stepping back into like my degree.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_00: What I think I've found the most interesting is I like our first episode, like we opened this up with disagreements okay, healthy disagreements okay.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_00: Like I opened it with a Gandhi quote of like disagreements okay, and that's how we grow.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_00: Cause I really thought bringing all of these different sides together, that we would have a lot more arguments.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like I really thought we would have a lot more arguments.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_00: Even when we have people that we don't know outside of the podcast or outside of social media, when we've had those kind of outside people come in, or even people that we have a history with that maybe we're not bestie, to watch and edit episode after episode after episode, and there's really no disagreements.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: But knowing that in the hospital, there probably some of these topics probably would lead to disagreements just reminds me that the intensity of being in the hospital creates some of the chaos itself.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_00: Whereas when we step, when we all step back and we're all in our homes and we're all able to like sit and calmly like actually hear each other, everyone is able to get on the same page.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_00: And that was so interesting to me to kind of see that from a leadership perspective of like, maybe I don't need to have this conversation of like what I think you did wrong and what you think I did wrong right here at the nurse's station.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe we just need to like table this and circle back to it when neither of us are on shift or neither of us are working and have a mountain of checklists to do.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_00: So it's really kind of a ch changed my approach as a leader.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_00: I've come in more on downtime when I'm maybe doing other administrative stuff or have other meetings to have some of these harder conversations.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_00: Seeing it so much in this setting, I'm like, we all get on the same page all the time.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_03: You're right.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_03: I probably wouldn't be it probably would not be that way at work in the middle of a crazy day.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_03: Like, but I mean, I just can't think of anybody that's come on that really think like we might have argued a lot with either.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_00: No, which is true.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: But I think some of I think some of the topics like the noctur page, you know, like that could have really turned anti APP.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: Or even with Dr.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: But I mean like from the physician side, like I see, I see.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like it could have very much been like, mm, yeah, I see that, you know?
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_00: I think when we did the no room at the inn, I kind of I was a little bit worried going into that with Dr.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: Tyler.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: Not that he's an argumentative person, but it's just such different perspectives of like being a charge nurse and having to find beds and find nurses, find resources.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_00: And there were times where there was like a little bit of different perspectives, but Dr.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: Tyler and you all as nurses were able to both be like, we're saying the same thing.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: We're just at a different spot.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_03: We're all working with different within the confines of our role.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_00: And so Yeah.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: It that part's been very interesting for me to witness because I really thought we would like I would have to mute everyone more.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_00: Just the last episode.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_03: We had a lost episode where Abby had to put her foot down.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, how many times though?
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_03: This has been funny to me where it's like, I've been at work and something has come up.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, God, I'm so tired of this.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_03: It's like whatever it is, a situation or something that keeps happening.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_03: Like, somebody needs to do something about this.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_03: Or like, why is nobody talking about this?
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_03: It's like, well, you know what?
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_03: We should talk about that.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I feel like that's been a lot of the ideas for our episodes.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_03: Like, we had some set ideas, but then things that happen is like we need to, we probably should talk about this because if we're thinking about it, other people are people have to be.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's that is another fun part.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_00: And everyone's like, How do you come up with these ideas?
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like, that happens to me too.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like that that's how, like, it's literally like real time things happen, and we're like, Oh, we should talk about that.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but let's let's have that on the podcast.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_03: And I do like like the whole goal of this thing, like we talked about, was to have a different perspectives, and it's not just nurses, it's not just a nurse practitioner, it's not just women, it's physicians, it's physicians, you know, nurse practitioners, APPs, nurses, like everybody across the board.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_03: And we've got we had financial people come on, we've had um emergency people, we've had palliative care people, we've had the chaplain, and like we get the perspectives from everybody, so it's not just me sitting here saying, Well, this is what I think, and I'm an expert.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_03: Like I'm only seeing my side.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_03: I've loved that.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_03: I think there's so many more people that we hope to have on and in different roles still that we haven't had a chance to.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I definitely would love to have like a physical therapist, a respiratory therapist come on and talk with us and be on with us.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I would I I love that we've had critical care doctors, hospitalists, palliative care, emergency men, women, and we have more coming, like that I'm so excited about to hear their perspectives.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, what do you so what do you enjoy more if you can if you can even answer?
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_03: Do you like the fun, lighthearted ones, or do you enjoy the harder ones, the more hot topics?
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_00: Ooh.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_00: I think it just depends on my mood, and I think it depends on like what's happening.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: I think sometimes when we're picking a harder topic, it's because we just recently like went through that and that's how it ended up here.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_04: Uh huh.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's very cathartic to talk about it.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_04: Uh huh.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_00: But the lighthearted ones are so fun, and I think like The uniform one for me was extra fun.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: And I I know you see that side of me more.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: And it was interesting to get feedback from other people and from listeners that were like, oh, this was like us.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_00: I actually was told it felt like me and you flipped roles a little bit in that episode, and that like I was the sillier, funnier one, and you were a little bit more on the pragmatic side.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: Not that you were fully, but like so that's funny.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_03: No, you were dropping jokes left and right.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_03: Like I was dead.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_03: I had worked the night before too, so I was I I mean, like I could have been the most slab happy person, but you were cracking me up.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_03: It's like you are you were being your normal self to me.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: It for you, it's like that's that's Abby when like the layers are kind of peeled back, or she's not in like leadership or like admin NP mode.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's who you guys see more.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_00: So it the lighthearted ones are fun for me as well.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_03: I enjoy them.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_03: They're not like you know, sometimes you just don't want to have to think too hard after working.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_03: I think with the whether it's like a you know, a harder topic or a deeper topic, or even the fun one.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_03: Sometimes I still find it hard, and I hope that this doesn't come across.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_03: I find it hard sometimes to like rein myself in a little bit to not be like my whole 100% self because I truly don't want to offend anybody.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_03: Like, and my sense of humor is just so dark.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_03: No, it can be dark and it can just be so sarcastic, and I don't mean half of what I say, but like I try to not say anything that would get me or you in trouble.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_03: And then I'm like, God, people are gonna just think I'm boring.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, it I don't know.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_00: I have uh I know some of the listeners that are like in my public speaking club shout out.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um and they think you're really funny, and they they thought that episode was interesting because they were they don't see that side of me either, uh that much.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_03: That's a shame.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_03: You're just you're just being your professional self so much.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: I need to break out of that a little bit more.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_03: So whereas I have to turn on my professional self when I'm you know, patient-facing and be nurse, you know.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_03: Nurse Kaylee, professional nurse.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think the other weird thing, maybe not weird, it makes sense, is it has reestablished my standard now for myself.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_00: Not that it's like I've ever let my standard fall, but now I'm like, I can't be putting out a podcast and telling providers that they should be rounding on their nurses every hour, and I'm not rounding on my nurses every hour.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like I can't be doing a D like don't dehumanize the patient and call them by a room number, their diagnose, and then coming in and being like, so bed 14 over here.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you have to like hold yourself to what you've said because you've put it out there.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_00: I've put it out there and I gotta lead by example.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_03: You know, the great example I think that you set.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_03: If people who wanted to hate actually listen to the episodes instead of watching that out there.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_00: Instead of watch 30-second clips.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_00: I that is the one part that I think is super wild to me, especially as we have the fluid episode out right now.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_00: You can tell they're not watching, they're just looking at this thing and like I just gotta say, we the first clip I put out about the flu from the fluid episode, and it's like it's Dr.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: Michael, and he goes, I go to bed tonight and I don't put an IV in myself, and I'm fine, but NPO patients have to have an IV.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_00: And that's it.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_00: That's all that's said in the clip.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's just like supposed to be an introductory clip in the comments in here, the number of debates around NPO and surgery.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I get that most of the time you're NPO for surgery, but there's dozens and dozens of reasons why you're NPO.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_00: And everyone's just like, well, if they're going for surgery, if they're going for surgery, if they're going for surgery, is the main argument.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_03: And all the anesthesia people were they weren't having it.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_00: No, and I'm like, that I think is so crazy to me to like go in the comments and you've made a hundred assumptions about what he is even talking about, and provided no context.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like, he wasn't even talking about surgery, he was just talking about like your made MPO for whatever reason.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_03: Like, yeah.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_03: And it's like we're also talking usually within like the sphere of being a cardiac patient, cardiac IC patient.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_03: But it made me laugh because I was like, I mean, unless unless there's something I don't know, you're not even really supposed to make patients all the way NPO before surgery anymore.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_03: It's clear liquids.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_03: Clear liquids up to like what we do.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_00: Clear liquids up to two hours before.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_00: And they can have like dry toast and like saltines up to four hours before.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_03: And that's I'm like, I'm like, really, you shouldn't be making them NPO for surgery, much less for they're gonna get some burst up for a cardiac cat.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_03: We didn't really want to address that, but it is the same thing with the shock video.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, the shock video.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_03: Like the comments or people would be like, you know, well, that's not true if this is this, like, well, yeah, because it's this is for hypothalamic shock, and like in the we talk about the different types, but uh you know what?
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, they're commenting, they're spreading.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, maybe somebody will go watch or listen to the whole thing.
• 28:24
  unknown: The whole thing.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_03: But if not, they're just that's not right.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_03: Dr.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_03: Michael's like, whatever.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_00: And that to me is the funniest part, is it's like you're see the with Dr.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_00: Michael, especially, I mean that full that full episode, if I if we did it in one full episode, it was an hour and 20 minutes.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_00: And you're seeing 50 seconds.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_03: See, and I don't understand because I'm a nosy bitch.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_03: So if I see a clip of something and it sparks either my rage or my enthusiasm, and it's like full thing, I go to the full thing.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_03: I go to the full span.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_03: I try to at least get the full span of like what that is.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_03: I want to know more.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_00: Same.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe people are not as nosy as us.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_00: I'm nosy.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_03: I like the details.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, I want to get the full thing so I know if I really need to be mad or oh yeah, I really do like this.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_03: That's just me.
• 29:24
  unknown: Yeah.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_03: That's just me.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_02: So that's been a learning.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_03: I was that way before this.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_03: It's like, I'm not just doing it because that's what I want people to do, but it does make me laugh.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like this week, especially.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh my god, what is happening?
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_03: Everyone's I knew I knew it would be a little, a little divisive.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, oh, I should people coming in hard.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_00: I guess I I will admit my naivete.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_00: I did not think it would be what it was.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_03: I'm trying to think.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like those people commenting on the shock educational videos, and then do you think the Noctor one probably had the most yeah, the Nocturne one had the most and most negative and most negative towards me.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_03: I y'all.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_03: I had no idea how much people hated anything.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_03: I I was I I'm still fibergasted.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, I y'all don't work with the good ones then.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's and I think the ones that bothered me the least were the Noctur ones.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't know if it's because like I've been aware of the Noctor page, which if you haven't heard that episode, it's not a Doctor, so it's like a Reddit page that just like bashes APPs.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_00: But I I will say I have quoted Dr.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: Michael a lot when APP hate comes up, and it's it's my favorite comeback to the anti-APPs.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_00: Because I was like, well, there's no podcast dedicated to APPs that have killed people like like Dr.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_00: Death.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like, right.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like I literally was just someone had asked me, they're like, oh, like, do you think APPs are held to a different standard than doctors?
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, well, it seems like if an APP messes up, then it's all APPs as opposed to just like that one.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, we have a whole podcast that's turned into a TV series on a neurosurgeon that like caused severe harm and no one's like all neurosurgeons are bad.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, it's a big uh double standard type thing.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, I was like, I think that probably had the most negative ones.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_00: That one was a little crazy.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_03: We might have been it too.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_03: Oh I was like, y'all are not coming at my girl and thinking I'm just gonna sit here.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_03: If it was not me, I'd be like, whatever.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, no, I don't stand for that.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_03: Overall, it was fun.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_03: It was great.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_03: I uh I like the I like the engagement either way.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_00: That's what we want.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_00: We want it, we want the community, we just want people to come with a maybe slightly more open mind, just a little bit listen to all sides.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_00: That's what we're here for.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_00: I do want to shout out, because they do like look at the stats, and I have no idea who it is.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_00: If they're listening, we're shouting you out, but we have two listeners in Europe that download our episodes every week.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't know anyone that lives in Europe.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think you do either.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_00: And it's every week.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_00: So for our two European listeners, thank you.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_00: We love you, we see you.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_00: Please let us know.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_00: If you feel comfortable, please let us know who you are.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_00: We do see you every week.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_00: We see your little download.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_03: So that's awesome.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_03: I had no idea we had European listeners.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_00: Every week, every week.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_00: That's great.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_00: So it's also good to know that like it's not just here in the US that we're dealing with this.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like yeah.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_00: That some of this is resonating in other places in the world.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm sure.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_03: It would be nice or it would be interesting to get an international nurse or somebody that works or has worked overseas.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_03: Like talk about the differences in the healthcare, even maybe somebody that works up you know, Canada or something, since there's debates on like universal healthcare versus not, like people talk about the wait time, sometimes it's better, sometimes it's not.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_03: I would really like to know like from a perspective of somebody who's actually worked there.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_00: That would be interesting.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_00: We could we can work on that.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_00: Looking forward to our next year.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_00: What do you want?
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_00: What do you want for our listeners, for yourself, for the podcast?
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_00: What are what are your goals?
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_00: Let's put them out there.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_03: I wasn't prepared to have a list of goals, Abby.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_03: So do you want to hear money?
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_03: Why don't you go first?
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_03: I normally like to think about those and like have them written down.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_03: Like I'm giving my evaluation.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_03: You go first.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I would really love to get some of the other ancillary services that are within the hospital.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_00: And I want more listener topics sent in, like for our audience.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I want to hear what you want to hear as well.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm happy to keep bringing what we come up with as we experience it, but if there's areas in medicine where there's something you've experienced, tell us and we'll talk to you.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_00: We'll have a conversation if you want to come on, we can meet, we can talk about you potentially coming on.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_00: But I I really would like more to know what the listeners are experiencing as well out there.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_00: I think for me personally, I hope to continue to grow as a host and maybe peel back some of those layers more so people can hear my jokes and my funny side a bit more, I think is my personal goal.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_03: I like that.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_03: The one thing that I had thought of, like just you know, as you bamboozled me.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_03: Sorry about my goals.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_03: No, I I want I want to have more stuff that listeners have submitted.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_03: Just because like like you said, like that's why.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_03: Like I want to hear what are your problems?
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_03: Do you have a scenario that you want your opinions on?
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_03: Do you have a question?
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_03: Do you have you know a different viewpoint?
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_03: Like I've loved it to hear some of that, have somebody on, like you said.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_03: I think that is fun.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_03: Um I mean, I know some of the episodes that we have planned, so I don't want to s you know, put too much out there if it doesn't happen, but I'm excited about some of the more you know not and say like harder, but you know, some of the more serious topics that we have planned.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_03: Um important yeah.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_03: Import like you know, things that we might have strong opinions about.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_03: And yeah, I just would love to see the growth keep happening.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I think that's a great as as far as like the business side of it, you know.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_03: You have been 99% probably.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_03: I mean like 1%.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just like I feel like I'm a sounding board or I give like my opinion.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_03: So maybe my goal would be that I could be a little more involved, but I also want to be realistic because I don't wanna I don't wanna say that then I because I don't have the time.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_03: Uh but everybody should know that Abby is like the producer director everything that you could give a credit to is Abby, so shout out to Abby.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just I don't even know what you would say.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_03: A creative consultant?
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're more you're you're more of the like creative and like the social media aspects and topics and what would be a good topic and uh so you're more of that of the creative and then I'm I'm back end.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_00: You're the front end and I'm the back end.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_03: Um I just realized how talking about coding was the first thing I thought of.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, okay.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_00: Coders, coders.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_00: There's front-end developers and back end developers.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_03: That's what it was.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_03: You do a lot behind the scenes.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I wish that I I mean I wish I could do more of the business side stuff, but I d I just I don't I mean, I don't know, you make the time, I guess.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_03: I just don't.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_00: I don't have kids.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_03: I don't have kids.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_03: But you do have a very full life and you do so many things.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_03: But maybe you'll have a little more downtime.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_03: In the coming year.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_02: I should more on that soon.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_03: I wasn't gonna say that.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_03: I was just like maybe.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_03: I also hope that maybe we can have more people if they want to, from our personal life in there.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_03: Like I just enjoyed with your family and everything.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_03: So hopefully that can be you know I think that'll be fun too.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_03: Do you think a goal because I I don't really have this as a goal just because there's a lot of things that would surround it, but like would it be a goal to make any money from the podcast?
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_00: It would be nice.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_00: It would be nice if anyone's listening.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_00: It would be nice.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_00: Are we open to collaborations?
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_00: We are open to collaborations.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_00: I think I and I, you know, we've we've had a couple offers for full transparency's sake, but we've said no because their mission didn't align with our mission.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_00: We want something that everyone in healthcare or the majority of healthcare workers could participate in or supports multiple healthcare types of healthcare workers.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_00: And it's what we've been kind of offered is very direct to one specific type.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_00: And that's just not what we want.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I'd rather keep this as a hobby than I'm you know spending money on it.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_00: I can promise you I spent more on my quilting hobby so far than the podcast hobby.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_00: Because fabric's expensive.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_00: I'd rather keep it as a hobby than for us to sell out.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_00: And go with someone that only, you know, only directs towards nurses or only directs towards APPs or only directs towards physicians.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that those companies are needed a hundred percent.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm not saying they're bad companies or anything, it's just not what our mission is.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_00: And we all need our own spaces, but that's not this space.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_00: This is where we all come together.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_03: I think we were flattered.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_00: It felt good.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, I know, but I was like, we were just like, I don't think that's our on brand for us, maybe.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, I think that could be cool.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't matter if it doesn't happen.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_03: This is mostly just for fun.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_03: For us.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_03: For us, for our friends.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_03: We should get some more merch.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_03: We should get some merch.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_03: We will we kind of had we have one coffee cup.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_02: I saw a bag.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_02: And one bag.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_02: And we're we we can work on more merch.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_02: We can definitely work on getting Kaylee her own merch.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_03: I I was like, I could have, you know, a mug.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_03: I'm pretty sure I was like, I'll pay for it.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_00: I did try it when we hit when we hit our thousand downloads.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_00: I did try to order you one, but the cups were on back order, so I couldn't.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's not a priority.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_03: But I like it and I like our little logo.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's it's like so official.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_03: So I don't know.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_03: It probably nobody out there cares about having any merge from us.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_00: The title's cute, though.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_00: Banter at the bedside.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_03: Like I I mean, I think so.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_03: We're not biased.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, we picked it.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_03: So clearly we like it.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_03: But that's what we do all the time.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_03: Bam.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_03: Banter at the bedside.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_03: Banter, yeah.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_03: It's like just all the time just yapping.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, so much yapping.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_00: So all right.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we have our goals for the next year.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_00: We're going to hold each other to it.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_00: We expect our listeners to hold us to it, and we're going to keep bringing you great episodes.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_00: And you let us know what you want to hear.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_00: You want to hear from Dr.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_00: Michael learning some more and us roasting him while you learn?
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_03: We can tech that up a notch too, just so you know.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_03: We could kind of go easy on him.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_03: We could be meaner.
• 44:27
  unknown: Yeah.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_03: We could definitely go harder on that.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_02: Could be funnier.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_02: Don't.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_00: He's a good sport, though.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_00: He really, really likes it.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um, do you want to see more reaction videos with all the girls and Ava, Grandmama Ava, you telling you all the things you shouldn't do?
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_01: Like smoking.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_01: Just don't eat.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_01: Please eat.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_03: I know I gotta starve myself.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_03: Stop.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_00: Please eat.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_03: Please don't listen to that.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_03: What do you guys want to see?
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_03: What do you guys want to hear?
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_00: They're a topic that you feel like no one is talking about in healthcare that just needs to actually be talked about.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_00: We will talk about it.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_03: And for the patients out there listening who are not in healthcare, you liked our you know series on advocating for yourselves.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_03: If you have something else that you think that we should talk about, we'd love to hear that too.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_00: We are fully open to it.
• 45:29
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• 45:32
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• 45:33
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• 45:34
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• 45:41
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• 45:44
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• 45:45
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• 45:46
  SPEAKER_00: And we're sending them back and forth to each other, too.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_00: So let us know.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_00: But from Abby and Kaylee, your two main shift talkers here.
• 45:58
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• 46:00
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• 46:01
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• 46:02
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