Latest / The Joint Venture Show / Fanatics Fest NYC | Guests: Eli Manning, Darrelle Revis & Amar’e Stoudemire | The Joint Venture Show Ep. 1
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- [01:00:00] Craig Carton It's The Joint Venture Show, Little Wayne Craig Carton. [01:00:05] Little Wayne Enjoy yourself. [01:00:06] Craig Carton We have Eli Manning stopping by. Terrell Rebus, Hall of Famer, Amari Effing Stoudemire. Let's go. [01:00:14] Little Wayne We're about to be the best white boy team out there. [01:00:20] Craig Carton Welcome to New York City, little Wayne. How you all doing? Everything's great. Before we have a super duper episode, this is our first premier episode that's gonna go live on Wednesday. So we have Eli Manning stopping by, we got Daryl Rivas stopping by. We got Amari Stoudemire stopping by but a lot of people always wanna know how did Wayne and I connect to do the joint venture? Well, I was applying to be his assistant a few months back and my hygiene is great. I got that box checked, right? I love dogs, I got that box checked, but man I cannot roll a blunt to save my life. So it's either be your assistant or be your co-host. So I chose co-Host, right? [01:01:02] Little Wayne It worked out. [01:01:03] Craig Carton And it worked out. Well, great to have everybody here. Great to see you. Fresh off a great show in Chicago a couple days ago. And now let's welcome out Tom Brady's daddy, Mr. Eli Manning. Two time Super Bowl winning quarterback and MVP. [01:01:30] Craig Carton Good morning, Eli, good to see you, pal. [01:01:31] Eli Manning Good to see YOU! What's up? How's everybody doing out there? Alright! [01:01:35] Craig Carton Love it! [01:01:36] Craig Carton Yesterday I'm here at Fanatics Fest and you come in, I know you heard it, and everybody's chanting about you being Tom Brady's daddy. I didn't know that you would adopt another kid, but what's it like being Tom Bradys daddy? [01:01:49] Eli Manning No, no, Tom's a man. So I like to give him a hard time. Not many people can give Tom a hard time. I'm like one of the few people that has like a little bit that I can, you know, rip him on. But he's still seven Super Bowls and multiple MVPs. Even though Justin Bieber destroyed him in the fanatic press, like games. What's going on with that? So, I mean, that's just embarrassing. A little embarrassing, Tom. [01:02:14] Craig Carton It's one thing to lose to you, it's another thing to loose to Bieber. [01:02:16] Eli Manning Yeah. [01:02:18] Craig Carton Now, are you two guys good? You know, a few years back, there was a little beef. I want to make sure you guys are good. That's a New Orleans boy. We settled it on the Manning cast. He came to the Maning cast, we settled it. Did you listen to the Carter 5 when he told you to or no? Yes. [01:02:33] Eli Manning No doubt. [01:02:33] Craig Carton I'm not going to ask you to quote it. Oh, yeah, I can't quote it now. Wayne's got this great story, obviously, both from Louisiana, New Orleans area. But you were telling me a story a couple of weeks back that when he was a kid and Peyton was a kid, that your pops, Arch Manning would take them out in the morning. Tell that story. [01:02:51] Little Wayne I had an uncle that was in jail and he was getting shot on time so they would give him the opportunity to go clean the city. Because he was still an inmate they had to clean the City around 4 or 5 a.m. Because they would clean the highway right by Newman and they couldn't be seen by any students. But my uncle said that he's never been out there no matter if it was 4 a. M., 5 a. Y'all was on the field already He said it was Cooper running drills or something, running routes or something. He said, I couldn't believe that. [01:03:28] Eli Manning Do you remember those early morning workouts? We did some early morning workout, yeah. So that's just, you know, we used to play, we played multiple sports. And so we were playing basketball, playing baseball. So the only time we could kind of get together our receivers was sometimes early mornings. Wow. And we would get there and work out. And you know my dad, we kind of would ask my dad. It wasn't him putting us through workouts, it was us putting him through a workout. He'd have to go run routes for us sometimes if our receivers are here. He would coach up the receivers. That's why I'm like, hey dad, will you come with us, coach them up, put them through drills. We can do our drills and then we'll meet up and kind of teach them this, the art of running routes. Every good quarterback can always be a great receiver coach. You gotta know exactly what the distance is, how to run everything, make their doing it the same way. So we definitely had some early mornings there in New Orleans and you know, kind of working when. When no one's watching. [01:04:22] Little Wayne Motivating. No doubt. [01:04:23] Craig Carton One of the stories, though, is that every now and then, you guys would throw the ball to the prisoners, but they couldn't reach you and throw it back, right? [01:04:29] Little Wayne Yeah, it was too far. [01:04:31] Eli Manning Back over. [01:04:32] Little Wayne You guys had to come down the hill, you know, hang out with a couple of guys doing the hill. It's just like a gate, it's just a big fence and then the highway right there so they could get it over there. [01:04:41] Craig Carton You guys lost a lot of footballs, that's for sure. All right, let's do some football talk with you. Obviously, you've been asked a million times about the Super Bowl wins, but I don't know if anyone's ever asked you, and I'm interested, just as a football fan, first let's start with the Plaxco Burris game-winning touchdown to win the Superbowl. Plaxis told me that he wasn't covered man-to-man the entire game, and he knew if he ever was, he was a wrap. Walk us through coming out of the huddle, looking to your left and recognizing Thank you. That plaque says man-to-man coverage and what's going through your mind in that spot? [01:05:13] Eli Manning Yeah, we kind of had a good drive going down there. They played like all zone, all zone. They're kind of double team plaques go, keep a safety over the top hem, and then play a kind of a zone to the three receiver sides. They're always in trips right, and down there in the red zone, they either play kind of their normal zone, kind of quarters, or they eventually come out blitz zero. So we knew to the 3 receiver side, they played zone, we have good combinations, and we kept kind of hitting Steve Smith, hitting a monotumor. And then finally, on that play, they came out all out blitz. And we had Plaxco just on the fade route. And you have 6'6", first five-seven corner. I mean, there is no doubt where you're going. And he ran a great move. He kind of ran like he was going to run a slant. And a lot of times, versus blitz, our adjustment, when he would just run a hot route, was a slat. And, uh... We thought about, I even thought about signaling the slant to him just to get it out quicker, but I said, you know what, let's just go win this thing. I'm going to throw a jump ball. So I had to throw it a little bit before he was open, you know, cause they're bringing one more guy that we could block. So I didn't know if I was going to have someone coming to hit me. And so I just kind of, Hey, I'm gonna throw it, let him jump ball, but he ran a great little move on the slants, fake the corner bit. And you know, he's going wide open in the end zone at that moment. When I'm light. Please, this ball, come down and bounce. Please, just come down, and bounce, hurry up, and get down. Let them catch this thing. Is that slow motion, like when you release the ball, is it one? Yeah. [01:06:43] Darrelle Revis Wah, wah, wah. [01:06:44] Eli Manning Like they show a lot of the clip is a lot of time it is slow motion like not how it felt in real life to me. That thing was just hanging up there forever. I'm like looking at the sideline. I'm, like, oh my god, there's no one near. I'm this is happening and it seems to be up there for so long. But you know, and even after that moment, still with 30 seconds left on the clock and they got Tom Brady, Randy Moss, I wasn't real comfortable. You know, I would like to win that thing with like five seconds left, not 30. But, uh... You know, sure enough, a couple of great plays. They had a, you know, Brady threw one about 70 yards down the left sideline. Hit boss in the fingertips, too. Oh, my goodness. Gracious. That was a little too... [01:07:22] Craig Carton How long does it take for it to sink in? Because that year, I'm on the radio, just came to New York to be on the Radio Boomer, and that's when Jerry Reese goes, we got a skittish quarterback. Obviously, you're well aware of that. Was there any part of you that wanted to be like, who's skittished now, bitch? Ha ha! No, I mean. [01:07:41] Eli Manning It was, I mean, obviously it was my fourth year in the NFL. We kind of had up and downs. We'd made the playoffs. We'd never won a playoff game yet. So, you know, you're kind of fighting for your right to stay in New York. I mean there was kind of, Coach Coughlin and I were both. Probably on the edge of whether, hey, are we going to be, are these our long-term guys? Are we going stick with these guys or are we gonna move on? And so it was, you know, a big year to make the playoffs, but also just get those playoff wins, get to a Super Bowl and to win it was obviously kind of secured my spot for a little bit longer in New York and Coach Coughlin's. How long did it take you to go back and watch the Super Bowl? [01:08:19] Craig Carton Because I imagine you didn't see the Tyree catch the way we saw the Tire catch. [01:08:23] Eli Manning Right, now I remember like after the game, you know, obviously it's a celebration, it's parties with the team, with family. I probably got back to my hotel room, I was with my wife and it was like three or four in the morning, I had to get up at like six for a conference. And I remember getting in the room, it was three or in the four in morning and I was like, hey, I wanna watch. Like ESPN, I want to watch Sports Center. I want see the catch. I want the play. I want it see the cat. I really haven't seen it yet. Everybody's talking about what a great catch it was. I was there, but I didn't see the slow-mo and how close it was to hitting the ground and everything. So I'm up there at 4 o'clock and waiting for the show the highlights again and watching it all and checking out to see the play, so I probably didn't watch the game film. It's not like now where you could go on an iPad and watch it right away. You had to be in the facility and watch, so it was maybe like a week later and I finally got to go in there and watch the whole game. [01:09:19] Craig Carton You had no idea in the moment that he traps on his helmet that Harrison can't knock it out like when did you find that out? [01:09:27] Eli Manning Yeah, I mean, you kind of heard people talking about it. Peyton came in the locker room. He was talking about the catch. I remember there was, like, audio of us together. And I'm like, hey, what? He was like, tell me a little about Tyree's catch. He's like, yeah, he had, like it's unbelievable. Harrison's hanging all over him. Had the one hand on the helmet. And I was like I want to see it. Like, I really haven't seen it yet. So I mean just unbelievable performance by David Tyree. I mean, think about Tyree. I think he had like, you know, 12 catches on the whole season. The whole season, yeah. Like, didn't have much. Ends up having, you know, he had a touchdown earlier in the game. We kind of put him in. A lot of times he came in to block. He was like a blocking receiver. And we said, hey, we haven't thrown a pass to him down in the red zone yet. Every time he's been in, he's given the block. So now, hey put him in through a hard play action, go fake block the safety and get in there. So he catches a touchdown. And then, you know, has one of the great all-time catches. It might be the greatest catch in Super Bowl history. Exactly. Especially because it was a Super Bowl. Yeah, Super Bowl, the moments, just, you know, third down on a two-minute drive. Like, oh, we didn't catch that. It falls incomplete. We got fourth and five, you know, backed up in our own 50-yard line. [01:10:39] Little Wayne Also may be a part of the greatest catch ever with Odell too. [01:10:43] Eli Manning Yeah, I don't know why I'm so good at making people make great catches, right? Yeah, it's a skill. It's an art. You were never the most active at quarterback. I can throw it just bad enough. Just bad enough where they got to make a great catch. [01:10:55] Craig Carton Wayne brings up the Odell catch against the Cowboys, that was a Monday night, Sunday night, whatever it was. Like, did you see that catch in the moment? [01:11:03] Eli Manning Do you have any idea? Not really. That one I got to see a little bit more because we got to go on the sideline after. And they're reviewing it. They showed it. But I didn't quite realize it's just a couple fingers. I was about to say, I don't think Othel knew he caught it. As a receiver, you always want to see the ball hit your hand. Either one handed, it's up there, and you're seeing the ball. That one, his hand. It's so far behind his head, it's hard to know where to put it to catch it when you don't see the ball hit your hands. [01:11:36] Craig Carton Three fingers, right? [01:11:38] Craig Carton Yeah. Imagine this. [01:11:39] Craig Carton Things you've done with three fingers. I'm just saying, like, we've all done some weird things with three fingers, but I never caught a ball behind my head with three finger. I have not. And I don't have the biggest hands either. [01:11:50] Eli Manning I've never caught a ball with five fingers. Not many one-handed catches, that's not in my skill set. [01:11:57] Craig Carton Talking to the great Eli Manning, you know, people always debate, would you rather be a Hall of Famer or would you'd rather be champion? Your day's coming. I know you didn't get in this past year, but there's no doubt you're gonna be a hall of famer. But if you could pick the two, because it's an interesting conversation piece. [01:12:14] Little Wayne You always ask people. [01:12:15] Craig Carton Would you rather be one of the greatest of all time because you're in the Hall of Fame or would you rather be a champion like guys like Dan Marino who are obviously among the greatest of all-time but not a champion in basketball there's tons of those guys you have the two championships but do you value that over getting the call? [01:12:31] Eli Manning Yeah, I mean, I think that is the goal for every season is to win a championship. You're not you're not going out there saying, hey, I'm trying to, you know, win individual stats or trying to throw, you get an MVP. Hey, you want to go win a championship and that's that's where you're working. You're working towards it's a team game. It's a goal to go out there and overcome all the obstacles that are thrown at you. You never know how it's going to play out, how each game is going to play out. But you got to find ways to win football games. Itself. That's the goal, and to have those championships, to share that with your fans, like to go down the Canyon of Heroes and have a parade in New York City. There's not a better atmosphere than that, but to have the championships with those pals, those teammates, that's a special bond that when you see those guys, it's an automatic hug. I mean, you hug them, because you've gone through so much. There's overcoming the plane rides home, the... The tough losses that you stick together, you have each other's back, overcoming those things, those are the special memories of those championship seasons. [01:13:35] Craig Carton Relate to what Jalen Brunson and the Knicks just went through. Obviously, the Giants didn't have a 53-year hiatus between championships, but you could, more than anybody, you know what that's like, because it's life-changing. [01:13:47] Eli Manning I remember I reached out to Jalen after, talked to him the day after they won and just talking about, hey, I'm so excited for what you're about to go through being a champion in New York City. I said, the parade that's about to happen, like, hey embrace it all, soak it all in. It is special because in New York, I've said it, there might not be a worse place to lose in. Like when things aren't going well, New York is a tough place. But there's definitely not a better place to be a champion in New York City. And the fans, I mean, they are, their fans, it means something. They're passionate about it. That's why they're tough on you when things don't go well. But when you win, it's definitely, hey, we won. It is a we atmosphere. They wanna celebrate with you. They feel they're part of it because they're so invested. They listen to the talk shows. They go to the games. I mean they are so all in on it that you can feel that passion when you won a championship. [01:14:45] Craig Carton Was there ever a time late when McAdoo benches you for Gino, which obviously the fan base went crazy about, he gets fired, Jerry Reese gets fired. Was there every thought, you know what, I wanna prove to them and to everybody else, I got another year in me, where you would've thought to play somewhere else, kinda like what Tom did in Tampa, and a lot of the great quarterbacks have done late in their careers, or was that never a thought? [01:15:10] Eli Manning No, I never wanted to leave New York. I mean, I've been here for so long. And I had other players, obviously, that had left the organization. They moved to other places. And all of them just said, hey, it's not the same here. It's not same as the Giants organization, how they do things. It's just different. And I'm always kind of like, what is it? It's like, it just different in the sense of like the Giants. All they care about is trying to win championships and put in a great team out there. It doesn't always happen, but from the ownership, from the people that work there, everybody's all in on trying to do whatever possible to be the best and support you and support the players to win the championships. And so I never wanted to go to anywhere else and feel anything different. [01:16:00] Craig Carton It's the toughest fan base, but when you win you haven't paid for a meal in 15 years [01:16:05] Little Wayne It kind of reminded me of New Orleans, when the Saints won. It's like the team, the whole city won. That's how it felt like when the Knicks. [01:16:14] Craig Carton Yeah, it's like it's a public trust because we're so vested in the outcome of your games and you only get now at 17 of them. Every game means so much like I got to pack my cooler up, I got to buy my premium sausage, I've got to get a good spot in the parking lot. Like you guys are waltzing in at 11 o'clock. I've been out there for three freaking hours, you know, barbecue and waiting for you to play. [01:16:33] Eli Manning It's a commitment. You're committed and that's why it's such a community coming together. You have your people you go to the games with, who you're watching with, and it's great memories and great moments that you get to share with so many people, and that why winning a championship is so special to so many. [01:16:55] Craig Carton We've got to let you go in a couple of seconds, so two last ones for me and then whatever Wayne's got. You can make the argument that the greatest pass in Super Bowl history is in the second Super Bowl you win, the pass to Mario Manningham up on the left sideline. I'm convinced that that's a blind squirrel finding a nut. Did you see him? Like, walk me through that because I've watched that play 500 times. I definitely saw him. I was throwing to him. It's the greatest pass, like you can't, like, an inch to the left, incomplete. An inch to right, out of bounds. Like, you weren't that good. [01:17:30] Eli Manning This is. [01:17:31] Eli Manning It was like a scenario where he was my third option. We only had three receivers win out. We kept the tight end of the block, the running back stayed in the block. And we're trying to hit Victor Cruz and Akeem Nix who are to our right. And the Patriots had the perfect coverage, really, for that whole play. They had that covered. They were really kind of double team in, kind of two man to manning him. And the safety, just with me looking right, It was, you know... I just thought I could move the safety a little bit. And it really was, I was throwing in a spot where either Manningham catches it, or it goes out of bounds, and then we move on at second and 10, and we get out of there. So it's kind of, hey, put it in the spot. Either my guy gets it or nobody. And again, one of those great catches, kind of over your outside left shoulder, where again, he didn't see the balls hit his hands. He also has got to make sure he keeps his feet in bounds while you're going to take a hit. I mean, there's a lot of things going on right there. A great concentration on him. And a lot of times, that receiver actually, when he runs that route, it's like you're getting double teamed. You know I shouldn't be throwing you the ball. Receivers know they're like, hey, he's not throwing me this ball. I've got two people on me. But he kept full speed the whole time. He ran it. And I think earlier in the season, I got on him. Kind of something similar happened where he's like, hey, I'm getting double teamed. I'm not going to run that much. And I kind of took it easy and I got all on him about it. Lazy wide receivers. They're all primadonnas to wide receivers these days, right? He ran that one full throttle. He wanted the ball. You could tell, like, hey, those guys, when they want the ball, they run harder. They want to get open. He's trying to get it open and made a great play. [01:19:13] Little Wayne What's the main advice that you give to ARCH? [01:19:17] Eli Manning Yeah, Arch, I mean, I think, you know, for him, he's in Texas, hey, just always kind of talked about with quarterbacks. It's easy if you go out there in the summer, kind of, you know, we talked about those morning workouts with your receivers. You go out, you don't throw routes until you get it right. You don't say, hey, we'll throw one hitch and one slant, and you go through the route tree. Oh, yeah, we missed one, whatever, we'll move on to the next one. You don't throw it until you can get it, you throw routes till you can't get it wrong. It's automatic, it's automatic. Every receiver is running it the exact same way. And if you've got to run it 10 times in a row, run that same route 10 in a roll till all the receivers do it right. You're throwing in the same spot where it's so automatic that you're just dialed in. Then you move on to the next route. So that's what you've gotta get with these receivers. You've got new receivers coming in. You've gotta transfers guys coming in, you gotta put in the time when no one's looking. When you're not just at practice, you're on the field together where you can really dive in, dial into those routes and just get on the same page where you know exactly what they're gonna do. In every scenario that comes up. [01:20:22] Craig Carton Plaxico told us a story a couple years back that he gave you the nickname EZ Eli and at one time in the locker room when you guys got your checks he switched checks with you and you opened up your envelope and the number was way off from what you make versus what Plaxico makes and he was just waiting to see your reaction to it and his point was you make a lot more money than me you better throw me to damn football so I can get a raise. Do you remember that moment in the lock room? [01:20:50] Eli Manning I don't remember that. I don't remember that We played a lot of pranks with each other in the time, but Black's show was good. Hey, he got open. He was a big target. Plaxco is one of those guys. I do remember Switch and Sun. I remember the checks. One time, he left his playbook, and we got Switch. He had mine, I had his, so I was going through. And Plaxko is one those guys, he's sitting in the back of the room, of the meeting room. You kind of don't know if he's awake or asleep. He's got the hood on. And then I got his notebook, and I looked at his notes. I'm going through it. The guy had the best penmanship and took unbelievable notes. Like, everything the coach was saying. He was writing everything down. He knew, like, and that's why he didn't make mistakes. He knew his sights. He knew is hots. He knew the adjustments were going to make. He knew you know, the technique of the cornerbacks. Like, every thing that was being said, that was taught, that was been taught, he was writing it down. He was taking his notes, and so, you know. It's like he didn't want anybody to know he was working hard, but he was work hard. I don't know why he wanted people to know that. Now, a lot of people talk about it. [01:21:51] Craig Carton I did your prima donna wide receivers Wayne's the style guy of the show I'm just a hoodie, you know pickup truck driving guy [01:22:03] Eli Manning Amazing [01:22:04] Craig Carton You are the style guy. You've got more style than I do. I can admit that, Wayne. It's all good. [01:22:08] Little Wayne No, that's not about that, man. [01:22:10] Craig Carton Anyhow, I wanna get your take on it. You know, big time quarterback, two time champion, future hall of famer, he's got his own socks on. Look at these socks, he has got. That's my dad. Oh, is that your dad? I thought those were Eli Manning's socks. 18, 18, that's my Dad. [01:22:27] Little Wayne Old school action, man. [01:22:29] Craig Carton That's a guy that plays a lot of golf. Well, look, I appreciate you coming through. We can talk to you forever. I know you got other stuff to do. Good luck on the future balloting for the Hall of Fame. Thank you. Appreciate it. Last thing for you on that. Is it important to you to get in? [01:22:45] Eli Manning It's not important to me, it's not something I'm losing sleep over. I mean, it would be a great honor to get in, I think, you know, to, again, to have that. I think a lot of my teammates would actually want me to get it and they want to come celebrate. It means something to the fans, it means something ownership, the coaches, a lot of my Coach Caughlin and Kevin Gilbride, my offensive coordinator, it mean something to them to have a player get it in the Hall of Fame and so it would a great honor to join that group of people and that fraternity. But. It's not something where it's going to change how I look back on my career. Right. You know, again, it's about my teammates. It's the relationships that I have because of football. What it's given me or what I'm going to cherish more than anything. And would you have Peyton introduce you or your pops or who? I don't know. Yeah. Probably. Yeah, probably either a coach or my dad. You know Peyton would try to steal the spotlight and like he would try to, you know, take all the credits. What he always does. [01:23:39] Craig Carton I'm Andy, everybody. Appreciate you coming through. Very much. And let's now go to a man who's in the Hall of Fame, and who also has a Super Bowl ring, but he's got it, with the Roland football team. Ladies and gentlemen, straight from Revis Island, Daryl Revis joins us, come on out. Darrelle Revis, I'm just going to say it out of the gate, you broke my heart. The greatest New York jet cornerback of all time, Hall of Famer, had to go to New England, had to win a Super Bowl there. I hate you, Daryle Rivas. Let's just get that out of way. [01:24:34] Darrelle Revis You got it, man. It's OK. [01:24:36] Craig Carton I understand it was all business stuff by the way you might be the smartest business man in the history of the NFL You held out or threaten to hold out every time you were in a contract here and every single time you won Where's there ever a moment when you were nervous about it or you're on the phone your agent going? Is this the right thing to do? [01:24:59] Little Wayne That was the performance more than business, right? That was a performance. [01:25:03] Darrelle Revis You know, I would say so, you know, as you going through that process, you're just trying to find the best opportunity for yourself. And I think when you the other side has their opinion, you have yours. And actually, we all got the deals done. So every time you got it done. Yeah, I was able to play and we came to equal numbers to just get the deals done and for me, I decided to go out there and play, play football, I'll be on my team, mate. [01:25:33] Craig Carton I'll never forget Mike Zanabam, the GM of the Jets at the time, had this famous meeting with your reps at the Roscoe Diner, which is in East Bomf. You couldn't find it on a map, but they've got great strawberry milkshakes, and that's where you got one of your jet deals done. [01:25:49] Darrelle Revis I don't know how that all came about but at the same time I think the contract negotiations got a little intense and we started to do a little bit of tactics here to just say hey let's meet in a location here at the Roscoe diners and we still were still made in on the contract negotiations and then as we move forward they started to understand the value that I brought to defense into the team and. [01:26:18] Craig Carton We just got to deal with that. I want to talk to you about one of the most famous plays in Super Bowl history, because people may not remember you're on the field, talking about the Super Bowl, Seattle Seahawks, New England Patriots, Malcolm Butler with the interception. Everybody wants to know, why doesn't Marsha and Lynch get the ball there? When you break the defensive huddle, and you're guarding your guy, I think, man-to-man, was Doug Baldwin, I can be wrong on that, walk us through what's going on through your head When Seattle comes out in that formation do you know right away that they're gonna throw the football and give us and the audience an idea of like the specifics going through your head when you guys break that huddle, you're about to lose the Super Bowl and then oh my God, they don't hand the ball off. [01:27:01] Darrelle Revis You know, I think that that last minute Was like a blur. Everything was happening so fast at that time the play before The interception from Malcolm Butler. He made a great play before He was in great position. They caught the ball about the three yard line, right? We thought he we thought Malcolm Butler was gonna pick the ball off But it was a great player by the right receiver to make it. So during that time we look back over to the sideline, we look at Bill Belichick, and we're getting the play signals. And then the time, you're looking at the time and you're like, whoa, it's only like 10 seconds left. Like, hurry up, let's get the play call in. They give us the play goal, we line up. Obviously we thought that they were gonna run the ball in. We looked at their formation. We seen that beast mode. Marshawn Lynch was on the sidelines. So we were like, they come out in an empty set And we're like... Marshawn's not on the field. I don't think they should throw this ball right now. Then we started to think, you know, quarterback draw with Russell Wilson. And as he hiked the ball, he never tucked it. Russell never tucked. He stood up. He started to look. And they ran double slants. I was on the opposite side guarding Doug Baldwin. Thank you. I'm coming in on a slant, I see, I look to the left, I see Malcolm just slightly jump inside of the receiver and just pick the ball, collide, it fell, and everything just erupted in excitement because we knew the game was over at that time. You remember what? [01:28:43] Craig Carton And you're probably on the TV like I am, how did they not run the football? [01:28:47] Little Wayne Man, I personally spoke to Sherm about that, man. You gotta talk to Sher, Sherm make you laugh. Sherm's, his whole story about that is incredible. Did you ever find out? You remember the face Sherm made? Oh, he's livid. [01:29:05] Craig Carton Nobody could believe they did it because Marshal Lynch, you weren't going to stop Marshal Lynch in that spot most likely. [01:29:11] Darrelle Revis No, it's a guaranteed touchdown. Right. Guaranteed Super Bowl winning touchdown. [01:29:16] Craig Carton Have you ever gotten this story about the thought process of why they didn't hand the ball off there? Like what did the guys say? [01:29:24] Darrelle Revis For us, I mean, you know, we looked at it like come on now you should have ran the ball So we don't know what Pete Carroll was thinking at the time either, but we were just like This is obvious the whole the whole stadium knows that you guys should run the ball So hey, I got a I got to ring out of it. Tom got his fourth ring Anybody ever tell you the real story of? [01:29:48] Craig Carton There's a lot of rumors out there. He wanted Russell to get an MVP. He didn't want Marshawn to be the MVP. There's lot of different stories about why they decided. [01:29:58] Little Wayne I don't know about all that, I heard a bunch of stories as well. [01:30:04] Craig Carton There's a lot of stories out there, right? They didn't want Skittles to be the, there's a lotta stuff out there. What did you hear? Tell us the truth. He said they didn't wanna Skittle. Okay. [01:30:13] Darrelle Revis At this point, all that confusion got us a ring. [01:30:16] Craig Carton You're not going to tell us. You know the true story. I know the story, too, but I'm not allowed to tell it. So I was hoping you might tell us the actual story. [01:30:25] Little Wayne All I can say is when we was in my living room, me, Sherm, and my homies, school from out here. Say, wow, wow. So we bring in school a 49er fan. So we talking about, he just asking Sherm we bring that up. And Sherm. We didn't get any answers because Sherm got so serious. Like, you know, there's no more laughing, no more joking. So we just switched ourselves. Gotta let it go. [01:30:49] Craig Carton You gotta let it go. Because it's a sensitive topic. Because it costs the most. [01:30:52] Darrelle Revis Super Bowl, right? Absolutely. Yeah, that that confusion of that decision of pass run. I mean, it was so obvious. [01:31:00] Craig Carton Give the ball to Marshawn Lynch there. Walk me through when you first go to New England. Obviously, Jets, Patriots, that's a huge robbery. We hate them, they hate us. Did they start bagging on the Jets as soon as you walked in the locker room? [01:31:15] Little Wayne Nobody is worrying about the damn chest. [01:31:18] Craig Carton Tom, I'm worried about the jet's rain. [01:31:20] Little Wayne I'm saying you really think them people walking in and go ask him to tell him something about the Jets, bro I bet you're Bill Belichick. It's something bad to say about the jet. Yeah, Bill probably did [01:31:31] Darrelle Revis When I first got there, no, that was not the conversation. But, you know, obviously we're in the same conference, you know AFCEs, and the first week we played the Jets earlier in the season, as we start going, you know, through the roster, scouting report, and the game plan, as I'm sitting, you know, we're sitting in the team meeting and Bill Belichick's He gets on the podium, he's like, he was like, all right, guys, it's like this week. We played the Jets. So I'm kind of waiting to see if he's going to say some kind of slick or something crazy. So he's like, he's like, he's like, look, they're going to play you tough. They're going to play you hard, but they're not very disciplined. So in the fourth quarter, they are going to make errors. They're going to make mistakes. And then that's what we'll capitalize and take advantage of those mistakes. All right. So it wasn't too bad. It wasn't too bad [01:32:29] Craig Carton We do a thing here every now and then, it's called a blind rank. So it's going to be one to five. I'm going to give you, it is the five worst jet moments when you were in New York jet, all right? Now I'm gonna give you one at a time. You have to put them in whatever spot you think it's gonna be. Once you use that spot, you can't use that again. [01:32:47] Craig Carton OK. [01:32:48] Craig Carton You got it? [01:32:48] Craig Carton OK. [01:32:49] Craig Carton All right, in no particular order, and you have to decide, is this the worst jet moment, second worst, et cetera. All right? No particular order. When you wake up on a random morning, and the back page of the New York Post has a picture of your head coach who has a foot fetish, Rex Ryan. Now, it was his wife's feet and toes, so nothing wrong with it. One to five, where would you put the Rex Ryan foot fetdish as weirdest or worst jet moments in your career? Cut. [01:33:20] Darrelle Revis One, one, one of the five, so one's the one. [01:33:22] Craig Carton Worst jet moment five would be the fifth worst but I only have five where do you want to put the Rex Ryan foot fetish? [01:33:30] Darrelle Revis I'll put that out. [01:33:32] Craig Carton I'll put that at two. Number two. All right. Did he ever address the team about, guys, look, it's my wife's feet, they're sexy feet. I like to kiss those feet. You guys do your own weird things. That's my weird thing. [01:33:47] Darrelle Revis Yes, he addressed that, you know, to address it. Oh, my God. He definitely addressed it. What did he say? It was it was all on it. It was all in the news. It was a big topic of discussion at the time. He just addressed us and just said, hey, guys, there's going to be an article coming out that I have a foot. And we were kind of like, wait, what? What? This is mostly football. What are we talking about foot fetishes for? But we all know now that Rex love yes, he likes feet [01:34:22] Craig Carton Everyone's got their own little things, their own picadilloes, his was his wife's toes and they even made a video. Did you guys see the video? Yes, I've seen When you saw the video and it's Wayne, it's him going up to like a car and his wife side got her feet out It's like summertime or toes are out and he's like my you've got some lovely feet When you see that video, what did you think? [01:34:48] Darrelle Revis That was something that was, it went viral, but that was something just like, Rex, I didn't know this about you. You had to stop. What, is something he likes, is his vice? [01:34:59] Craig Carton It is his wife. So again, I'm being respectful. He talks about it. All right. So that's number two. All right, here's one. You were back with the Jets when a very little known special team player punched Geno Smith in the mouth and broke his jaw. Were you in the locker room when that happened? [01:35:19] Darrelle Revis Yes, I was there and I heard like in the neighborhood, you know, when you grow up, you hear a smack. And you kind of, I kind of looked and was like, yo, that sounds familiar. That was that? Oh. [01:35:35] Craig Carton But you heard the connection. [01:35:37] Darrelle Revis I heard the connection for sure. [01:35:39] Craig Carton And did you go running? [01:35:40] Darrelle Revis Over like what the F just happened? The entire locker room ran over to that area kind of see I had to kind of go around the bend and see what was going on but uh that's awful. [01:35:52] Craig Carton Todd Bowles had an emergency press conference and said oh and by the way our starting quarterback is going to be out for six day weeks, he has a broken jaw, you can ask him about it. And Todd's, I love Todd, and he's very kind of close to the best guy, he hated to have to do that because everyone's like what the heck happened and it was over 500 bucks as you know, the charity event that Fino blew off and the guy, Ike Kanambaba, I was like, look. You blew off my camp. I want my money back. I bought you a first class ticket. And Gino said, take a hike, Rook. [01:36:24] Darrelle Revis Yeah, that's the back story of it and that's very true. I think it was unfortunate for us as a team because, you know, Gino was definitely going to start. You know, we were looking, that was what we drafted him for in the second round and we was looking forward to see him develop and evolve. And that incident happened with a teammate. And then, you now, we've got to go back to the drawing board to figure out how we're going to win this year. So where do you put that one to five? You can't pick number two even. [01:36:49] Craig Carton To use number two? I'll say that's three. Three? Alright, number three. He's waiting for the obvious one at number one. Let's see if he gets it. Here's the next one. That first half, January 23rd, 2011, the day my son is born, first half against the Pittsburgh Steelers in the AFC Championship game when the defense was a no-show, came back damn near won the game, what happened in that first half? [01:37:18] Darrelle Revis That first half, as I recall, I think we came out a little bit flat. Flat, you know, you could just tell in the locker room guys were a little bit more usually before games, a little more excited. I do think that, you know, the Pittsburgh Steelers at that time were very experienced football team, too, as well. So they've been the playoffs year in and year out. That was kind of our our year where we felt very strong. We felt we were confident as a team and we felt that we can. We had to go through Pittsburgh to beat him and we knew it was gonna be tough, but I recall this just coming out a little bit too flat. Where would you put that? One, four, or five? [01:38:00] Craig Carton I'll put that four. That's number four. All right, we got two to go. I'll save the best one for last. It's Wayne's favorite play for the Jets. All right. When Rex decides to put Mark Sanchez back in the preseason game against the Giants, because he's trying to win the Snoopy Bowl, and then he gets hurt, and obviously the season goes to pot right after that, you want to make that one or five. [01:38:23] Little Wayne I don't think that one filed. Number five. You're a real chess fan, boy. That's what I got, boy! [01:38:29] Craig Carton We went to back-to-back AFC Championship games and then Rex got stupid he might have been the foot fetish Wayne it could have been All right, and now for all of us Not even debatably for me number one. So now it's your number one Thanksgiving night You know what I'm getting at? The Mark Sanchez butt fumble. [01:38:51] Little Wayne That's what you was going for when you first said Mark, that's what I thought you was going for. Yeah. [01:38:55] Craig Carton Number one. Did you know it happened when it happened and walk me through how bad that Thanksgiving was for you? The turkey was dry That's number one [01:39:05] Darrelle Revis So you can jot that down, but where I was, I was in my living room watching the game toward my ACL. So I was out during that year and I had my leg, you know, kicked up. I was just trying to recover, rest, and I'm watching the games and that play comes up and I just turned it, I just cut off the TV. I was so pissed because they picked up the fumble. Obviously, the Patriots ran it back in for a touchdown. And I was really pissed because I'm a competitor. I want to be out there with my teammates as well, since I was injured. And it was just tough. And then also just the embarrassment of the butt fumble as well. [01:39:57] Craig Carton Final question for you, because I know we've got to let you go. Tell us what it's like when the phone rings. And I guess you're expecting it to ring one way or the other. And the voice on the other end of the phone says, congratulations. You are now in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. [01:40:11] Darrelle Revis That's one of the most special moments that you can have. I mean, because you play back all your career, the workouts, the team made some camaraderie with guys, and just waking up every day to just grind, grind, grind, I think that's when you get that call, it's just like, man, I finally get the recognition I deserve, And I'm in a fraternity. With some of the greatest guys that ever played this game. So that was pretty awesome. [01:40:45] Craig Carton Well, congrats on that, we appreciate you coming by. I know your son's playing some college football over at Mercyhurst. We got their starting outside linebacker here in the front row somewhere who's gonna be playing with your son. Good luck with that. I imagine it's hard to watch your son play football and not be able to help him on the field. But we'll talk to you more about that next time you come through. Appreciate you stopping by. Jarell Rheatham, everybody! Hall of Famer! All right, this super episode continues. Ladies and gentlemen, Hall of Famer, Amari Stoudemire! That chair might be too small for Amari Stoudemire. You good? It feels good. Shalom. I don't know what that means. Three Jews on stage. I just said, what? Amar'e Effing Stoudemire. Let's go. Hall of Famer. I'll be honest, I didn't think you were gonna get in this time. Did you think you are getting in? [01:41:53] Amar'e Stoudemire You know what? I wasn't sure, you know, but no, it's up to the Board of Governors and the ones who vote for Hall of Fame. But when I got the call, I was excited about it. Who calls you? How does that work? What's that problem? Does Adam Silver call you? No, it is the basketball Hall of Fam committee. They call you. So I got a call from, I think his name was John. He's like, Ammar, I got some news for you. He's, like, you're in. That was it. You're in? Yeah, so I was like, yeah, let's go. Start crying. [01:42:23] Craig Carton Do you, like, are you with family when that happens? And you tell your... [01:42:28] Amar'e Stoudemire Yeah, I was excited, man. I was like, I was kind of jumping for joy. I called my family right away, told them I'm going to the Hall of Fame. My mom didn't know what that even meant. She's like, what does that mean? And once I explained to her what it meant, she started crying. It's very emotional. So yeah, my family really enjoyed that. I was so upset with you. [01:42:44] Craig Carton For so long. First, I loved you because you made it cool to come to the New York Knicks. Way knows. Like, it wasn't cool to be a Nick. I was upset. I'm going to get to why I was upset in a second, but I know this talk that the deal to come the Knicks almost didn't happen. And if you don't come here, Carmelo doesn't come right after you. I know you've talked about it before publicly. You might have gone to Cleveland, right, around that time. Walk us through how you left Phoenix. And they wind up coming to New York and how close that came to not have. [01:43:18] Amar'e Stoudemire Well, when I was in Phoenix, I was trying to re-sign with the Suns, right? Because a year before that, we played against the Lakers with Kobe and we lost at the buzzer. And so we were gonna try to run it back and get ready for the following season. And so my contract was up and I was tryna negotiate with Phoenix to stay in Phoenix. And negotiations didn't go as planned. So my plan changed. So I entered the free agency and I had a few teams. So with free agency, you get like a call once 12 o'clock hit at midnight. Teams can call you right away and try to recruit you to go to their team. So the Miami Heat called me, the Brooklyn Nets called me and the New York Knicks called me. And that was it, those three? Well, it was more. It was more, but Mike D'Antoni, who was also a Hall of Famer this year, was coaching the Knicks team and he coached me at Phoenix previously. So I'm like, well, if I go to New York, I go back to my hometown. I was raised in New York for middle school years, but I get a chance to go back to New york and play with a coach you know my style. So I was like, it's a perfect fit. So that's why I signed with the Knicks. Yeah, you got, he played. [01:44:19] Craig Carton Under the legendary seven seconds or less, which is really like my sex life or a good portion of my adult life. I was like, if I give you seven seconds, you better be happy about it, Wayne. But did you, I'm just keeping it real. That's what it was. Like, I don't lie about what my skills are. [01:44:39] Little Wayne I was super happy when you left Phoenix, because I really did, I thought you, just like you said, you thought you was gearing up to re-sign to go right back at it with the, I thought we, I'm a Laker fan. I thought was about to see y'all right back again. Right, right. That boy went, he went to the Nile. [01:44:54] Amar'e Stoudemire Oh, as a Laker fan, you were thrilled. Yeah. And that was the Steve Nash, right? He was your point guard. Yeah, exactly. Nash is my point guard, who's also Hall of Famer. Yeah, we had a good run. You had a great run. You went to the Western. [01:45:05] Craig Carton Conference Finals and look you lost to one of the five greatest players of all time and that great Laker team. Ain't nothing wrong with that man. Well you walk me through the mystique of Kobe Bryant on the court. Yeah we've talked about it a lot like kind of like the MJ mystique where he had guys in their brain like before you know Tip walk me through what your not just relationship was but how Kobe had that weird presence on the Court. [01:45:33] Amar'e Stoudemire Yeah, Kobe was a different type of player, man. He was like, sometimes you think Kobe's an introvert because he's always to himself. But in reality, he was his training and focus. So he was so determined on basketball. So when you try to scout and play against Kobe Bryant, we have an entire game plan on how to stop Kobe. But the game plan never works because Kobe was so passionate about the game of basketball to where he basically understood every single. Scheme that you can throw at him. So you try to stop him but you can't stop him because he knows what's gonna happen and he trains for it and he's ready for it. So that's why for us it was so hard to beat the Lakers because Kobe was so to plan against. But yeah, we were great friends off the court, man, him and his family, his wife and children was always interacting with my family. So blessed memory. [01:46:26] Craig Carton Everyone seems to have that one Kobe story that wasn't made public. Do you have a story that you can share with us? Maybe off the court, like the kind of guy, I know Wayne was very close with Kobe and Vanessa Bryant. Do you a story you can like a cool memory of Kobe, whether it's on or off the Court? [01:46:44] Amar'e Stoudemire I mean, for me, one of the memories I remember the most about Kobe is because I was a tight player who would show up an hour or two early. I'd go to the gym, I'd practice or lift weights before practice and then train before practice and then practice. So I was one of those guys too. So I thought maybe when we played for the Olympic team in the USA for USA basketball, I would wake up five in the morning. I'd be in the gym by six. Practice is now to nine. So I'm there at six in the weight room. I get to the weight room and Kobe's already in a full sweat. I'm like, well, Kobe, what you doing here, bro? It's five in the morning. He's like, man, y'all feel like I gotta get it in. And then so by the time I finished working out and I go to the basketball court for skill development before practice, Kobe's already wrapping up. So I'm like, wait, so this is what he does all season. Like he's already been doing this. And I'm, like, all right, well, I'm there three hours early. He's there five hours early? Like, what, is that even possible? This is crazy, man. But that was Kobe. [01:47:48] Craig Carton It's like you in the recording studio, right? You live in the, like, no joke, you went to your house, you're playing the guitar, recording music. It's the same kind of mentality as the greats have. And that's why I always say, no such thing as an overnight success. We just don't see the work that you guys put into the craft, right. Exactly, exactly. Yeah, which is why you and Kobe got along so well, probably. That's why you Kobe had that mutual respect. [01:48:14] Little Wayne And also he loved the music, so we kind of grew up together, timing-wise, so he loved the music. Of course I loved him as a player once we met, that was it. [01:48:25] Craig Carton And I got to ask you a question, because I'm a die-hard Nick fan, and Nicks, of course, are champions now, which we'll get to in a second, but I don't know that you've ever talked about it publicly, and I need an answer. I need a answer. Why did you punch the fire extinguisher in Miami? What happened? Why did your punch it? And what's the true story of that postseason when the Nicks' hopes came crashing down because you took out anger or something on a stationary object against the wall. [01:48:56] Amar'e Stoudemire That's what everybody thinks. And everyone has a misconception of what actually happened. So in that game, it was a frustrating game, and we lost a close game to the Miami Heat. And as I'm walking down the hallway, I reach behind me to hit the wall. [01:49:09] Craig Carton Like it. [01:49:11] Amar'e Stoudemire Okay. And when I reached behind me, my hand caught the edge of the fire extinguisher case. Oh, that little red box. And I had no idea. So I walked in, when I walked into the locker room, my teammate was like, Amari, look at your hand. I looked down, I was like oh. So that's how it happened. It was an accident. I tried to hit the wall behind me. [01:49:30] Craig Carton You were angry, you did try to punch a wall or hit it behind you, just dumb luck you hit the fire extinguisher box. Yeah, exactly. I was so pissed at you. How could I not? Like, you go down, we can't win. [01:49:44] Amar'e Stoudemire When I play. [01:49:44] Craig Carton Yeah, but you weren't the same. I had 19 and 12 rebounds. Yeah, we needed 28 and 40. And you didn't give it to us. And frankly, I haven't gotten over it. And then in Boston, you've got to try some windmill dunks pregame, and you throw your back out. [01:50:00] Amar'e Stoudemire Yeah, I always, always trained, always worked out with a high level. So I couldn't really tame it down at warmups. And yeah, so, yeah. So in the warmups, I did like this 360 dunk and my back tightened up on me. It's like this son of a bitch. [01:50:15] Craig Carton Doesn't he know how long it's been, Wayne? 53 years. Now, did you enjoy the Nick Championship run? Did you feel a part of it? I know I didn't see you back at the garden. I know a lot of guys have come back and there's a great relationship. What was it like for you as a former Nick? Because we have this philosophy, once a Nick, always a Nick. Did you enjoy The Nick Championship? He hated it because he's a Laker fan. [01:50:38] Amar'e Stoudemire Yeah, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed. I think the guys really came together perfectly last season. They was almost there and it was like just so close. But I think this year they took that motivation to the off season and came back with coach Mike Brown with a different type of offensive philosophy and they were able to come together when that championship. So it's fun to watch. It's so much fun for me just busting away. [01:50:58] Craig Carton Chops about it because as Lakers you may not win another championship for decades now. [01:51:06] Amar'e Stoudemire I don't know you got you got a good squad you got Luca so Luca may be able to try to gather up something and get for the Lakers [01:51:12] Little Wayne We're about to be the best white boy team out there. Thank you. [01:51:17] Craig Carton Right now I'm a champion, I love it. All right, let's talk about Lin Sanity. You were still a Nick when it happened. There's been a lot of talk how some of the guys didn't like the fact that Jeremy Lin was getting all the attention. There have been rumors out there that JR Smith and Mello refused to pass him the ball, didn't want him to get all the accolades. He had a three week run where he might've been the best player in basketball. You had a sideline seat for all of it. What was going on with the Knicks? And were the dudes in the locker room like? Man, we don't want this young, unknown Chinese-American guy to steal all our thunder. What really happened? [01:51:52] Amar'e Stoudemire No, I was all for it. I think when I was, so when German Lynn was with our team, he was like the 12th guy on the team. So for a while, we didn't even realize he was on the team. And then once some guys got hurt and he had to step in and play. And for him, he was always preparing himself in practice, right? So we saw him in practice and he would work on his game. Let me stop you there. You knew who he was? Had you met him? Yeah, I knew who it was. I was just checking. He was like the 11th, 12th, guy on team. Right, so you didn't pay him any mind at all. So I was like the leader of the team, so I was focused on big games and trying to prepare ourselves for games. But when players got hurt, he had to step in. And when he stepped in, he stepped right away and went on a tear. He scored 30 points in one game, and then the big game he played against the Lakers, and he had, I think, 35 points. Against Kobe, that was that Friday night game, yeah. Yeah, and the city was on fire, man. So everyone was coming out to watch Germany play. It was incredible to see what was happening. I was caught by surprise about the wave of all the energy that was coming in the city to watch them play. It was fun to be a part of. Did the guys not like the... [01:52:56] Craig Carton Attention he was getting like the whole city had linsanity and there's took their stories that some like I said JR mellow which they've tried out you'll quiet down that they just [01:53:08] Amar'e Stoudemire didn't like it. Any truth to that? Well, I mean, there's maybe some a little truth to where some guys may not wasn't very like excited about what was happening. But we were we were excited about it was happy for him because for a player who don't have a big contract trying to make a living, trying to Make a team. And then to have the moment to step up, and then he steps up. You know, it was fun to see him, you know, enjoy that moment and celebrate with them during that time. I just recognize [01:53:34] Craig Carton you've got a gold menorah on a chain first time I've ever seen anything like that but it reminds me of the story when you first he's got that he's got the menorah for Hanukkah [01:53:48] Amar'e Stoudemire Right there. Well, it's not, it is not for Hanukkah. This is actually the, a menorah was inside the temple, the seven branch, the eight branch menorahs for Hanuka. Is that a seven one or an eight one? It's a seven branch. So that's not. [01:53:58] Craig Carton Hanukkah one? He's a better Jew than I am. Do you think you're closer to God because it's made out of gold? [01:54:05] Amar'e Stoudemire No, that's how it was, so God commanded that the menorah was built in gold, so I just did what the Torah says, just make it in gold. The Torah said, buy a gold menorah. [01:54:17] Craig Carton If that's the case, you're going right to heaven with all the bling you got on. [01:54:21] Amar'e Stoudemire Biggest cross I hope so. [01:54:25] Craig Carton I got to ask, when I first heard that you had become Jewish and you went to Israel and all that, there was a story, I don't know if it was when you were playing a right after when you're in New York, that you took a bath in Manischewitz wine. That story's out there. [01:54:41] Amar'e Stoudemire That's best. [01:54:41] Craig Carton And what is there? [01:54:43] Amar'e Stoudemire Not at all. [01:54:44] Craig Carton You've never bathed in red wine? [01:54:46] Amar'e Stoudemire I bathe in red wine, but it wasn't Menace Evans. [01:54:49] Craig Carton What does it mean? Oh, okay, so the story's half right. What, would you pick a nice Bordeaux? [01:54:54] Amar'e Stoudemire No, I took a, it was a nice casual evening where I just went to this place where you can have these red wine baths. Wine baths? Yeah, it's a wine bath. So you sit in the wine bath, you sit back, relax, enjoy the moment, and just chill for a good half an hour, 45 minutes. You have your glass of wine, which is separate from the wine. Do you drink it out of the tub? No, no, you don't drink your own wine, you know, out of a tub. You have a separate glass of wind, you drink that, and then you just relax and chill. [01:55:21] Little Wayne And can I, what's it do? [01:55:24] Amar'e Stoudemire It was supposed to be good for like rejuvenation. You know, you get, it's like a hot bath. So you get the hot bath, or hot baths always kind of relax the muscles. So I guess the wine had an extra, you know, emphasis to like recovery. I assume it's bull crap, right? I guess so. Did you do it once or did you go back? No, no, I went once a week. I'm sorry? Once a week [01:55:44] Craig Carton If it didn't work, why would you go back? [01:55:47] Amar'e Stoudemire No, it felt great. It's like you relax, you chill, just kick back. [01:55:50] Craig Carton Is there like a full massage with the release? [01:55:52] Amar'e Stoudemire No, you get a massage. You get a massage before. OK. And then you get into the wine bath afterwards. And then the cold plunge after that. What's after that? The cold plung. [01:56:01] Craig Carton So you go massage, wine bath, drink a cup of glasses, cold plunge to wash the red wine off you. No! [01:56:09] Amar'e Stoudemire No, you shower after the wine bath, and then you get into the cold plunge. [01:56:13] Craig Carton This is the problem with people making money, Wayne. Sometimes you can make too much money. Because when you grew up, if I'd said to you, there's gonna be a time in your life when you're sitting in a bathtub of red wine, you would've said, pa-pa, right? Maybe. You became bougie, that's your problem. You became a rich bougie guy. What other weird stuff have you done? What other stuff have done in the name of health? Did you ever go into a hyperbaric chamber like Michael Jackson or any of that stuff? [01:56:42] Amar'e Stoudemire No, I did a cryo chamber. The cryo-chamber helps with recovery. [01:56:45] Craig Carton That's the frozen one? Yep. [01:56:47] Amar'e Stoudemire I do the normal tech legs where you put the boots on. [01:56:50] Little Wayne How long? How long you have to do? [01:56:53] Amar'e Stoudemire Normatet legs is like 20 minutes, so it's for blood flow and you got the ice you got the iced compression wraps you put on as well. I tried it all for recovery man I wanted to stay healthy. You tried yeah cuz you had a lot of injuries. [01:57:07] Craig Carton Knees, what was the worst injury you had? Probably the knee injury. Yeah, and you can obviously run an up-tempo offense if you can't get your ass up and down the court, but a red wine tub. I'm trying to think, have you ever taken a bath in the night? [01:57:21] Amar'e Stoudemire Hey, Wayne, you gotta try that, bro, I'm telling you. [01:57:23] Little Wayne I was about to ask you where this is a place where it's set up like this. [01:57:27] Amar'e Stoudemire It's all set up, it's all setup, just walk in and got it all set up for you. [01:57:31] Craig Carton And this is like, it's like in the basement of a place I couldn't find or like they promote it? No, you won't be able to find it, no. I don't have that kind of credibility. Knock on the door, red wine bath, carton for one. That doesn't work. What was it like going to Israel and playing basketball in Israel? Obviously, you stand out because you're height. You won a couple championships there. Did you go there because the NBA was like, we're done with you and you still thought you play? Or is it something about going to the homeland? Why did you play both? [01:58:01] Amar'e Stoudemire On Israel for a couple of years? It's a little both. I mean, I don't want to be the player that traveled from team to team at the end of my career. You know how guys get ready to retire and they go from one team to the next team to next team? I don't want that. And I have already invested in a team in Israel, in Jerusalem. So I wanted to go there and play and also learn. So I traveled to go play for the team there and also went to go learn. What's the number one? [01:58:23] Craig Carton Most life-changing thing you learned during your religious journey. Is there something that's [01:58:29] Amar'e Stoudemire stands out? I mean, the compilation of a lot of things I've learned that was life-changing. And it's just a matter of having the dedication and time to learn. Do you think you want to become a rabbi one day? I mean I'm not looking toward that at the moment, but the future's always the future, you know what I'm saying? You just never know. Before we let you go... [01:58:52] Craig Carton We're gonna find out from you right now, it could be any era, what is your starting five if you have to save the world? In a basketball game, kinda like Space Jam 1, what we call the good one, okay? What's your starting 5 to save the world, and we'll go in order. Point guard. Your favorite if you want to save humanity. All right, the world's going to explode if your team loses this game What is the Amari Stoudamire? Starting five and you could pick of any era. I don't care. You have to win this game or everybody here's dead [01:59:35] Amar'e Stoudemire On guard. [01:59:37] Craig Carton Magic Johnson. Magic Johnson, point guard. You good with that one, Wayne? Yeah. What? Because you're going to have to come up with a team that beats his team. OK, shooting guard. Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan, I think it's a wrap right there. That's why I'm asking him to do that. Go ahead. OK, so you got Magic and Michael in the back court. Small forward. [01:59:58] Amar'e Stoudemire LeBron James. [02:00:01] Craig Carton Okay, that's a pretty good team. Pretty good team, I mean, it's not koozie, but it's a good team go ahead. So power forward. [02:00:10] Amar'e Stoudemire I will forward. [02:00:13] Craig Carton The tough one. Power forward. Uh-huh. Take your time. We're no rush at all [02:00:21] Amar'e Stoudemire I will forward, I'm gonna probably go with. Sam Duncan. [02:00:29] Craig Carton Tim Duncan. Who did you want to pick? I was going to say Tim. Oh, you're going to take Tim Duncan? And who is the big man? Are you going old school Russell and Wilt? Are you go new school Shaq? Are you're David Robinson? Who's the big? Are you Patrick Ewing? Probably not. [02:00:49] Amar'e Stoudemire I would have to go, only in this era of his game, Orlando Magic, Shaquille O'Neal. [02:00:58] Craig Carton So young Shaq! [02:01:00] Amar'e Stoudemire Youngster [02:01:00] Craig Carton The shack that got swept in the NBA 5. Oh, I mean, okay, got it. The young shack. [02:01:05] Amar'e Stoudemire Oh, the set that was ripping down the backboard every game. [02:01:07] Craig Carton Yes, not the Lakers shot. [02:01:09] Amar'e Stoudemire Not the Lakers' side. [02:01:09] Craig Carton What was the difference in his game? [02:01:11] Amar'e Stoudemire It was more athletic, it was more agile, it was powerful, it's more in shape. That's the original Shaq. [02:01:19] Craig Carton Younger Younger right can get up down to court a little bit better. So that's your starting five I don't know if there's a starting five that can be that starting five, but he left Colby off the list [02:01:30] Amar'e Stoudemire Yeah, because you went by position, so... [02:01:32] Craig Carton I had to choose a shooting guard. Got it. If I had said positionless basketball, then maybe Kobe makes your starting line. [02:01:39] Amar'e Stoudemire I could have moved Kobe to the three or something like that maybe. [02:01:43] Craig Carton What, did you, um, did you play against Jordan? [02:01:47] Amar'e Stoudemire I played against Jordan his last year was my first year. [02:01:50] Craig Carton In when he was in Washington. Did he still have that aura? [02:01:53] Amar'e Stoudemire Oh yeah, it was a whole different level, man. I couldn't even look at him. [02:01:58] Craig Carton Really? He was that intimidating? [02:02:00] Amar'e Stoudemire I was shocked the entire game. [02:02:03] Craig Carton Really? Because, like, do you have to pinch yourself? Like, I would think that a young, up-and-coming rapper, if he gets to share the stage, like a little twist, one of your protégés, it's gotta be a really cool thing. I'm on stage with one of the greatest rappers of all time. So I'm sure that's emotional. When you walk on the court and there's Michael Jordan, what was that? [02:02:24] Amar'e Stoudemire Moment like I asked him a question I was like I mustered up all the energy in my body to ask him a questions and I was like hey Mike what is it what does it take to be great what did he say he said young fella it seemed like you already have it I was like yes I got it I got the four [02:02:43] Craig Carton No, baby. I got what I need which means he knew who you were correct, which that's got to go straight to your head, right? [02:02:49] Amar'e Stoudemire But I also went to the Michael Jordan fantasy camp when I was in high school. You did? So I was able to meet Mike even back when I was in High School, back when he was playing, I think, with the Bulls during that time. [02:03:02] Craig Carton Final thing before we let you go on, we appreciate you coming by. Is there, you have any regrets at all in your MBA careers or something you thought you might accomplish you didn't? When you look back you go, man, I had a great career, a Hall of Fame career, but I wish I had done blank. [02:03:18] Amar'e Stoudemire I mean, I wish I would have won a championship. We had a great chance to win the championship in Phoenix. And Steve Nash deserves a championship, and I think we almost had that one run in 2007, I think it was. We had great chance win a championship that year. So that's one thing I regret, is not being able to win a Championship in Phoenix Would you trade the Hall of Fame for the title? No. You can't trade the Hall of Fame. Hall of fame is the highest level that any athlete can ever dream of. Championships, it's a matter of luck, having the right team for an office and all these type of things. Hall of Fam is a collective body of your work that you put in as a player. That's the highest accomplishment. [02:03:57] Craig Carton Are you nervous about the moment when you actually get to see, you know, the bus then go in? [02:04:03] Amar'e Stoudemire Yeah, I'm nervous. I'm not sure what to expect, but I'm excited about it. Who's going to introduce you? I have Rick Welch, I have Tracy McGrady, Grant Hill, Jerry Colangelo, Mike D'Antoni, Steve Nash. Are there all? [02:04:16] Craig Carton We're all coming to support you. [02:04:18] Amar'e Stoudemire We all are going to be their support. [02:04:19] Craig Carton Well, look, it's a pleasure meeting you, pleasure having you out here at Phonetics Fest and joining us on the joint venture. Thank you. It's our premier episode, Hall of Famer, Amari Stoudemire. Yes, sir. Appreciate you, pal. All good, all good. Please download and follow all the social media and YouTube, the Joint Venture Show, Little Wayne, Craig Harden. Any final words you got for the crowd? Go ahead. Congratulations on the championship, for real, for real. I will see you down the road. Peace out.