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- 0:04Speaker 1: This is a case of murder and mystery and intrigue.
- 0:09Speaker 2: A brutal killing.
- 0:11Speaker 1: It was the body of a female wrapped in about
- 0:14Speaker 1: 200 pounds of chain with a plastic bag over the head.
- 0:20Speaker 2: A dark mystery with multiple suspects.
- 0:24Speaker 3: This person may know something that they're trying to withhold.
- 0:29Speaker 3: And they're scared to talk now.
- 0:31Speaker 4: She was tricked, threatened, coerced.
- 0:38Speaker 1: There's an urban legend. There was about $ 500, 000 in cash
- 0:42Speaker 1: that went missing.
- 0:45Speaker 5: Maybe he got upset, lost his temper, went back over there,
- 0:52Speaker 5: and killed her.
- 0:54Speaker 2: The truth will be revealed.
- 0:56Speaker 1: Level went to these elaborate extremes to make this woman disappear.
- 1:00Speaker 1: Wanted her gone. and never to be seen again.
- 1:06Speaker 2: Every day in North America, dozens of people are murdered.
- 1:11Speaker 2: The key to solving the toughest of these homicides lies
- 1:14Speaker 2: in the final 24 hours of the victim's life. To
- 1:18Speaker 2: crack the case, detectives must reconstruct that critical timeline. The
- 1:23Speaker 2: minutes and hours containing evidence that can help unlock the
- 1:27Speaker 2: mystery and catch the killer. Five miles down the Mississippi
- 1:40Speaker 2: River from New Orleans sits the quiet community of St. Bernard, Louisiana.
- 1:48Speaker 4: St.
- 1:48Speaker 1: Bernard being so close to New Orleans, being so close
- 1:52Speaker 1: proximity to the river and the traffic on the river
- 1:55Speaker 1: and just the multi-culture attracts people here.
- 2:01Speaker 5: People are friendly and open. You know somebody who knows
- 2:06Speaker 5: somebody who knows that person. It is a small community.
- 2:15Speaker 2: This familiarity can also create a false sense of security.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Some fishermen report they had found a body in one
- 2:27Speaker 1: of their lines.
- 2:34Speaker 3: Wrapped in some sort of chains. She had, I think,
- 2:40Speaker 3: a cord or something wrapped around her neck.
- 2:46Speaker 1: The body was in an advanced state of decomposition. She
- 2:53Speaker 1: was dressed only in a nightshirt. After an extensive check
- 3:06Speaker 1: of medical records and some identification of her jewelry, they
- 3:11Speaker 1: were able to positively identify her.
- 3:14Speaker 2: She's named as 61-year-old Dorothy Thompson.
- 3:18Speaker 1: She'd been missing for about three weeks prior to that.
- 3:23Speaker 5: But at the time, police weren't able to go forward
- 3:26Speaker 5: with it. They could not continue their investigations.
- 3:34Speaker 2: Dorothy's murder remains a mystery for 18 years until St.
- 3:38Speaker 2: Bernard natives, Colonel John Doran and Lieutenant Mark Jackson decide
- 3:44Speaker 2: to take it on.
- 3:51Speaker 1: I remember it so well because it was a big
- 3:53Speaker 1: deal for St. Bernard. When I was about 15 years old,
- 4:02Speaker 1: Some friends of mine and I hustled a little job
- 4:04Speaker 1: cutting grass at Pet Sematary. And I remembered that lady
- 4:11Speaker 1: that owned it. Dorothy was a bit of a recluse,
- 4:18Speaker 1: kind of an eccentric type person. I don't think she
- 4:23Speaker 1: was particularly in good health. But by all accounts, she
- 4:30Speaker 1: was a generous person. of a sweet person.
- 4:36Speaker 3: Dorothy's house sat way back off the highway, so you'd
- 4:39Speaker 3: have to drive back kind of a secluded driveway to
- 4:43Speaker 3: get to her house through some wooded area.
- 4:53Speaker 4: They had pet.
- 4:54Speaker 3: Tombstones across the whole front of the property.
- 4:58Speaker 4: They had birds, cats, dogs.
- 5:01Speaker 3: All sorts of animals, any animal you could think of
- 5:03Speaker 3: was buried in that pet cemetery. Back when I was young,
- 5:10Speaker 3: the word around the community was that it was like
- 5:14Speaker 3: a haunted house. People would go down there and say
- 5:18Speaker 3: they seen ghosts and stuff like that around the property.
- 5:22Speaker 3: It was a strange place, to say the least.
- 5:28Speaker 5: Almost everybody in St. Bernard Parish knew about the Pet Cemetery.
- 5:36Speaker 3: When we dug through the case file, we didn't have
- 5:40Speaker 3: a lot left because when we reopened the case, it
- 5:43Speaker 3: was a few years after Hurricane Katrina. St. Bernard was
- 5:50Speaker 3: devastated by Hurricane Katrina. Before the storm, they had evidence.
- 5:55Speaker 3: They had the chains that she was wrapped in. They
- 5:57Speaker 3: had the cord that she had wrapped around her neck.
- 6:03Speaker 4: All that was lost.
- 6:04Speaker 3: So it was kind of starting from scratch.
- 6:13Speaker 2: One of the few salvageable documents is Dorothy's autopsy report.
- 6:19Speaker 1: The coroner ruled that it was a probable asphyxia or suffocation.
- 6:23Speaker 1: She either died from being strangled or from that plastic
- 6:28Speaker 1: bag being placed over her head where she couldn't breathe.
- 6:31Speaker 1: So it could have been a combination of the two.
- 6:34Speaker 5: Asphyxiation is a method to inflict your anger and frustration
- 6:41Speaker 5: at this person while they're dying. That indicates that there's
- 6:49Speaker 5: some personal involvement and that there was some anger by
- 6:57Speaker 5: the alleged perpetrator.
- 7:06Speaker 1: To me, that was a premeditated, deliberate act. Whoever went
- 7:13Speaker 1: to these elaborate extremes to make this woman disappear wanted
- 7:17Speaker 1: her gone and never to be seen again.
- 7:24Speaker 2: As detectives unravel the past, they learn this isn't the
- 7:27Speaker 2: first death police have investigated on this property.
- 7:32Speaker 3: We discovered that Dorothy's first husband died of a gunshot wound.
- 7:37Speaker 3: The story was that it was a self-defense, that he
- 7:40Speaker 3: was beating Dorothy and Dorothy shot him. And her second
- 7:46Speaker 3: husband committed suicide on the back porch of the house.
- 7:57Speaker 2: The gruesome nature of these incidents leave police wondering if
- 8:00Speaker 2: there's a connection.
- 8:03Speaker 5: When you have some history in the family of someone
- 8:08Speaker 5: else that may have been murdered, you start thinking that
- 8:13Speaker 5: maybe there's something going on in this family. Are there
- 8:18Speaker 5: family issues? Are there control issues? Are there property issues?
- 8:26Speaker 6: If you think there's something suspicious here, you have to
- 8:30Speaker 6: do an awful lot of research into learning your victim.
- 8:37Speaker 6: You're often looking for the one person you can ask
- 8:39Speaker 6: questions of that gives context or gives information that's relatively unbiased.
- 8:49Speaker 2: They begin to reconstruct Dorothy's timeline, aiming to identify the
- 8:53Speaker 2: people she interacted with. in her final 24 hours.
- 8:58Speaker 1: The first thing we did when we reopened it is
- 9:01Speaker 1: establish the timeline. That's the very first thing I had
- 9:04Speaker 1: to do to piece it back together. You have to
- 9:09Speaker 1: find out when was the last time this person was
- 9:11Speaker 1: seen or heard from and who were they with.
- 9:20Speaker 2: They tracked down the woman who originally reported Dorothy missing.
- 9:26Speaker 1: Patricia Newman, she was in her early 30s. She did
- 9:30Speaker 1: a lot of volunteer work in the community, particularly at hospitals,
- 9:34Speaker 1: helping elderly people. She befriended Dorothy and started to take
- 9:39Speaker 1: care of her.
- 9:42Speaker 3: Dorothy was in deep depression because of the passing of
- 9:45Speaker 3: her mother. She was on several different kinds of medication.
- 9:51Speaker 1: They almost had sort of like a mother-daughter relationship. Patricia
- 9:57Speaker 1: Newman had spoken to Dorothy around 9 PM on the
- 10:01Speaker 1: 13th of April. She was to pick her up Sunday
- 10:08Speaker 1: morning to run errands and maybe the pharmacy or something
- 10:12Speaker 1: of that nature. When she tried to contact her that
- 10:15Speaker 1: following morning at 9, she got no answer. She drove
- 10:21Speaker 1: down there to check on Dorothy, thinking maybe she was
- 10:24Speaker 1: sick or something else had happened. When she realized she
- 10:29Speaker 1: wasn't there, I think she was immediately worried because Patricia
- 10:34Speaker 1: knew that she did not have the wherewithal or the
- 10:38Speaker 1: means to travel anywhere. And at that point, Patricia began
- 10:46Speaker 1: to think that she may have met with foul play.
- 10:50Speaker 1: She called the police. Police got there and searched the
- 11:00Speaker 1: house with no signs of Dorothy being there. They found
- 11:07Speaker 1: a half a glass of wine, not much else really
- 11:12Speaker 1: to go on other than no Dorothy. She was missing.
- 11:19Speaker 1: It vanished into thin air.
- 11:21Speaker 2: Between their conversation the previous evening and Patricia's 911 call,
- 11:26Speaker 2: there's a 12-hour window for the murder.
- 11:30Speaker 5: You can start then making your timeline as to somewhere
- 11:35Speaker 5: right after she last talked with Patricia.
- 11:39Speaker 4: That starts the clock running.
- 11:45Speaker 2: They press Patricia for other details about Dorothy's final day.
- 11:54Speaker 3: It looks like she went to a bank to cash
- 11:56Speaker 3: a check.
- 12:01Speaker 2: They discover she was not alone.
- 12:05Speaker 4: She was with a handyman.
- 12:11Speaker 1: We learned Dorothy was hiring these transient types. She seemed
- 12:15Speaker 1: to gravitate toward these people, or they gravitated toward her.
- 12:20Speaker 5: People would learn about the Pet Sematary, learn about her,
- 12:24Speaker 5: befriend her, and offer to do something for a few dollars.
- 12:34Speaker 3: The timeline shows that he may have been the last
- 12:36Speaker 3: person that was with Dorothy Thompson before she disappeared.
- 12:42Speaker 6: Locating the last person to see the deceased alive is necessary.
- 12:48Speaker 6: Because at that point, you can establish things like where
- 12:52Speaker 6: she was last seen, when she was last seen, what
- 12:55Speaker 6: was going on in her world at the time.
- 12:59Speaker 2: A key detail about her transaction at the bank stands out.
- 13:04Speaker 4: She paid him $ 100.
- 13:05Speaker 1: In 1985, $ 100 would have been a lot of money.
- 13:09Speaker 1: I don't think we made that for cutting grass the
- 13:11Speaker 1: entire summer over there.
- 13:14Speaker 3: She was willing to pay him $ 100 to do handiwork.
- 13:17Speaker 3: So it could give motive. It could give an indication
- 13:20Speaker 3: that she has plenty of money.
- 13:24Speaker 7: Employing transients is a dangerous game because you have no
- 13:29Speaker 7: idea what those people have done in their past. They
- 13:33Speaker 7: may be convicted killers. And now they're working in your
- 13:36Speaker 7: backyard and they're potentially casing your house out.
- 13:43Speaker 1: She had hired a handyman on the 12th. The day
- 13:48Speaker 1: after she hires him, she disappears. So immediately, he became
- 13:53Speaker 1: a person of interest.
- 14:07Speaker 2: Detectives are looking for an unknown handyman who received $ 100
- 14:12Speaker 2: from murder victim Dorothea Thompson within hours of her disappearance.
- 14:20Speaker 5: St.
- 14:20Speaker 4: Bernard was very open.
- 14:23Speaker 5: And it's an easy place for transients to come in,
- 14:27Speaker 5: maybe do a little odd job here and there, make
- 14:31Speaker 5: a few dollars.
- 14:35Speaker 3: It made the case very difficult because you had a
- 14:38Speaker 3: lot of people that was on that property at different
- 14:41Speaker 3: times doing different things.
- 14:46Speaker 2: A discovery in her home gives them a potential lead.
- 14:51Speaker 1: They found him known in the house and they came
- 14:53Speaker 1: up with the name Kenny Pommier. They found out where
- 14:58Speaker 1: he lived and they were able to find him and
- 15:01Speaker 1: brought him in for an interview. He was cooperative. He
- 15:08Speaker 1: was forthcoming.
- 15:11Speaker 2: Kenny admits to being the man Dorothy paid $ 100.
- 15:14Speaker 1: He told him that he had answered an ad in
- 15:17Speaker 1: the paper about cutting the grass and doing some repairs
- 15:20Speaker 1: around that house. He said he had gone to the
- 15:24Speaker 1: bank with her. He brought her to, I think, a
- 15:27Speaker 1: grocery store, then brought her home around 4 p.m. And
- 15:33Speaker 1: that was it. That's the last time he saw her.
- 15:35Speaker 1: and they knew that Patricia Newman had called Dorothy around
- 15:38Speaker 1: 9 p.m. at that night.
- 15:43Speaker 2: For Pommier to be the killer, he must have returned
- 15:46Speaker 2: to the house after that phone call.
- 15:51Speaker 3: But it was kind of hard to track down where
- 15:55Speaker 3: he was at at the time that Dorothy disappeared.
- 16:03Speaker 2: Unable to confirm any alibi, they looked deeper into the
- 16:07Speaker 2: robbery motive.
- 16:09Speaker 1: They never could really establish that there was anything of
- 16:11Speaker 1: real value that she had there other than some jewelry.
- 16:16Speaker 1: So to go to that extreme, to dispose of this body,
- 16:19Speaker 1: to me was something more sinister. There's only a few
- 16:25Speaker 1: reasons people murder, and it's, you know, money, greed, revenge.
- 16:32Speaker 1: To me, it's always motive. Motive, then means, then opportunity.
- 16:37Speaker 1: But in this case, my first instinct was the motive
- 16:40Speaker 1: had to be there. You kind of get that gut
- 16:46Speaker 1: feeling about who you're dealing with. They didn't necessarily rule
- 16:49Speaker 1: him out, but I think they were satisfied with what
- 16:52Speaker 1: he told them.
- 16:57Speaker 2: Police identify another individual who may have had opportunity in
- 17:01Speaker 2: the timeframe Dorothy was killed.
- 17:07Speaker 3: Elton Childress was another handyman that worked on Dorothy's property.
- 17:12Speaker 3: I think they was in the hospital together. And she
- 17:15Speaker 3: kind of befriended him. And Childress wound up working for him.
- 17:23Speaker 1: When you look at his criminal background, he had some
- 17:25Speaker 1: violence there. Armed robbery, driving while intoxicated, and drunk in public,
- 17:30Speaker 1: and things of that nature. He was a bit of
- 17:33Speaker 1: a shady character. a bit of a mysterious kind of person.
- 17:39Speaker 8: People with criminal records, the police would definitely pursue those
- 17:42Speaker 8: individuals more aggressively and more rapidly.
- 17:46Speaker 1: Because of his background, he had the way she was killed.
- 17:51Speaker 1: You know, somebody wanted her to disappear off the face
- 17:53Speaker 1: of the earth. They didn't want her to be found.
- 17:55Speaker 1: Somebody that had to have the means and wherewithal to
- 17:59Speaker 1: do this.
- 18:02Speaker 2: Brought in for questioning, Childress claims he was nowhere near
- 18:07Speaker 2: the house the night Dorothy went missing.
- 18:16Speaker 1: He really had no solid alibis.
- 18:21Speaker 5: So you want to investigate how is he connected to her?
- 18:25Speaker 4: Did he have any motives?
- 18:30Speaker 2: His explanation is tied to a lingering mystery. that has
- 18:33Speaker 2: surrounded the Pet Sematary for decades.
- 18:37Speaker 3: Childress told the investigators that he was looking for hidden
- 18:41Speaker 3: treasure on Dorothy's property.
- 18:49Speaker 1: He had heard the rumors from the local people down
- 18:52Speaker 1: there that there was treasure buried. There's an urban legend,
- 18:57Speaker 1: I guess, Apparently, Dorothy's mother had murdered her ex-husband's new
- 19:03Speaker 1: wife in Kansas City. She fled here and basically found
- 19:09Speaker 1: this spot in St. Bernard, which is about the farthest
- 19:12Speaker 1: place you could go from Kansas City, and opened this
- 19:16Speaker 1: pet cemetery and essentially hid out the rest of her
- 19:20Speaker 1: life there and was never extradited back to Kansas City
- 19:24Speaker 1: to stand charges.
- 19:27Speaker 2: Her ex-husband... A casino owner with alleged ties to the
- 19:31Speaker 2: mafia is rumored to have amassed a small fortune.
- 19:36Speaker 1: There was about $ 500, 000 in cash that went missing, and
- 19:40Speaker 1: then he mysteriously died. And that's the treasure that they
- 19:45Speaker 1: talk about.
- 19:48Speaker 4: I remember crying.
- 19:50Speaker 5: Over the years, you would hear stories of kids going
- 19:54Speaker 5: in at Pet Sematary at nighttime.
- 20:03Speaker 4: Back when we was young, we believed it. Everybody in
- 20:06Speaker 4: the community believed it.
- 20:09Speaker 7: Rumors have a way of growing. And a rumor of
- 20:13Speaker 7: buried treasure in a pet cemetery, you're going to attract
- 20:17Speaker 7: a crowd of people who are going.
- 20:18Speaker 4: To want to take it.
- 20:26Speaker 1: It seemed like Childress spent most of his time searching
- 20:29Speaker 1: for the treasure. Digging up the pet craves and not
- 20:35Speaker 1: doing much work at all.
- 20:39Speaker 5: His motive could have been that he just got frustrated,
- 20:43Speaker 5: he got upset, that he couldn't find the hidden treasure anywhere,
- 20:50Speaker 5: and went back over there and lost his temper.
- 20:54Speaker 4: And killed her. It throws up a.
- 20:58Speaker 3: Red flag, but then also you gotta wade through it
- 21:00Speaker 3: and ask, why would Childress tell an investigator that he
- 21:04Speaker 3: was looking for a hidden treasure?
- 21:09Speaker 4: So you got to look at it both ways.
- 21:11Speaker 3: Is he being honest or did he just slip up
- 21:14Speaker 3: and tell you something?
- 21:18Speaker 2: Remaining adamant, Childress goes on to accuse Dorothy's caregiver.
- 21:24Speaker 3: When Childress was interviewed, he said that Patricia Newman had
- 21:28Speaker 3: motive to do this. That she befriended Dorothy because she
- 21:36Speaker 3: was trying to take her property away.
- 21:40Speaker 1: It's choice land down there. By 1985 standards, it was
- 21:44Speaker 1: worth a lot of money, probably quarter of a million
- 21:46Speaker 1: to half a million dollars.
- 21:50Speaker 2: Detectives take a harder look at the woman who reported
- 21:52Speaker 2: Dorothy missing.
- 21:55Speaker 3: It's common for suspects to try to establish themselves and
- 21:58Speaker 3: get on the good side of an investigator and try
- 22:03Speaker 3: to be forthcoming with plenty of information and showing that
- 22:07Speaker 3: they have a big interest in this case.
- 22:11Speaker 1: They found out that Dorothy had had some children that
- 22:14Speaker 1: lived out in California that she was estranged from since
- 22:17Speaker 1: they were babies. Dorothy had bequeathed the power of attorney
- 22:24Speaker 1: over to Patricia and that left her in the will.
- 22:29Speaker 5: She was with her. She was close to her. She
- 22:35Speaker 5: was one of the individuals who could have benefited from
- 22:39Speaker 5: If Miss Thompson passed away, Miss Newman may have had
- 22:46Speaker 5: some motive for Miss Thompson's death.
- 22:54Speaker 2: Detectives consider if Dorothy Thompson's closest friend, Patricia Newman, killed
- 22:58Speaker 2: her to inherit her property.
- 23:01Speaker 3: Patricia could have benefited a lot from Dorothy's passing.
- 23:08Speaker 4: She befriended Dorothy.
- 23:09Speaker 3: Dorothy had all the trust in her, and she knew
- 23:12Speaker 3: a lot about Dorothy and what Dorothy owned at the time.
- 23:20Speaker 2: They revisit Patricia's story regarding Dorothy's disappearance.
- 23:29Speaker 3: With Patricia calling the sheriff's office and asking the sheriff's
- 23:32Speaker 3: office to go check the well-being of Dorothy, Patricia possibly
- 23:37Speaker 3: was trying to establish an alibi.
- 23:43Speaker 7: Her calling the police might very well be her way
- 23:46Speaker 7: of trying to cast suspicion on somebody else and to
- 23:51Speaker 7: clear herself.
- 23:54Speaker 2: This, in turn, raises questions about the crime scene.
- 24:00Speaker 7: The manner of the death was extremely violent. But when
- 24:03Speaker 7: you see the house itself, that doesn't look like anything
- 24:06Speaker 7: had happened. It's difficult to marry those two ideas.
- 24:12Speaker 5: I think the first theory you would assume when you
- 24:16Speaker 5: get to the residence and she's not there is that
- 24:21Speaker 5: she was maybe killed someplace else. Maybe she was kidnapped.
- 24:28Speaker 3: But it's a common thing for a perpetrator to stage
- 24:31Speaker 3: a scene to make it seem like nothing happened.
- 24:36Speaker 1: So I think you have to consider all possibilities. You
- 24:40Speaker 1: have to look at everything and everybody that was involved
- 24:42Speaker 1: with this woman.
- 24:46Speaker 2: Patricia insists she didn't see or speak to Dorothy after
- 24:50Speaker 2: their 9 PM call.
- 24:54Speaker 1: Her intentions were genuine toward Dorothy. She said she didn't
- 25:01Speaker 1: even want the land. She was just trying to do
- 25:04Speaker 1: the right thing for Dorothy Thompson.
- 25:10Speaker 2: The one thing left to consider is if Patricia was
- 25:13Speaker 2: physically capable of the crime.
- 25:15Speaker 5: When the body was found in the river in black
- 25:19Speaker 5: plastic or when pounds and pounds of change wrapped around her,
- 25:23Speaker 5: I don't know that Patricia would have had the ability
- 25:30Speaker 5: to do that.
- 25:33Speaker 1: We're talking about being transported miles away from her residence
- 25:37Speaker 1: and then dumped in the river. So Patricia was completely
- 25:43Speaker 1: ruled out.
- 25:46Speaker 2: She goes on to suggest yet another potential culprit.
- 25:51Speaker 1: Patricia Newman believed that the Nodiers were involved in Dorothy's
- 25:55Speaker 1: disappearance and subsequent deaths. They were a couple named Brandon
- 26:03Speaker 1: Nodier and Bonnie Nodier, who lived there. and also caretaker
- 26:09Speaker 1: slash groundskeeper.
- 26:14Speaker 3: Brandon was a handyman. He would cut the grass and
- 26:17Speaker 3: stuff like that around the residence.
- 26:23Speaker 2: They run Nodier's name through the system.
- 26:27Speaker 3: Nodier had a violent past. He had several run-ins with
- 26:31Speaker 3: the law. He had some aggravated offenses against him.
- 26:37Speaker 2: As Brandon lived on the property, he is automatically on
- 26:41Speaker 2: Dorothy's timeline for the window of her disappearance.
- 26:49Speaker 5: You want to investigate, did he have any motives? Patricia
- 26:56Speaker 5: Newman has said that Mr. Nodier was constantly trying to
- 27:01Speaker 5: get Miss Thompson to sign over the property to him.
- 27:09Speaker 1: Brandon ODA wanted that land. He had told people he
- 27:11Speaker 1: wanted that land. We learned at some point, Brandon decides
- 27:17Speaker 1: that he wants Dorothy to sign a long-term lease for
- 27:22Speaker 1: him to operate the property and live there. And apparently
- 27:31Speaker 1: she agrees to that.
- 27:35Speaker 7: The elderly are prey to many criminals. And they are
- 27:42Speaker 7: easily manipulated into signing away their assets or their fortunes.
- 27:48Speaker 2: For Nodier, the lease isn't enough.
- 27:52Speaker 1: From that point, Brandon Nodier decides that he wants to
- 27:57Speaker 1: buy the land.
- 27:59Speaker 5: Maybe he was one of those people looking for the
- 28:02Speaker 5: hidden treasures.
- 28:04Speaker 1: Brandon and Bonnie convince her to drive up to an
- 28:08Speaker 1: attorney's office in New Orleans who represented Brandon Nodier, and
- 28:13Speaker 1: signed her property over to them in an act of sale. Supposedly,
- 28:17Speaker 1: they were gonna pay her $ 20, 000, pay off an existing
- 28:20Speaker 1: loan that was on the property, and give her use
- 28:24Speaker 1: of the house, which means she could live there for
- 28:26Speaker 1: the rest of her life. Patricia said Dorothy, by all accounts,
- 28:34Speaker 1: was not lucid when this happened. She was coerced. At
- 28:40Speaker 1: one point, Dorothy realizes that she had been duped because
- 28:44Speaker 1: there was no $ 20, 000 in her account. The loan was
- 28:48Speaker 1: never paid off, and they were kicking her out of
- 28:50Speaker 1: the property. And that's when Patricia Newman becomes involved to
- 28:57Speaker 1: help her.
- 29:00Speaker 3: What happened was Patricia Newman found out about the property
- 29:03Speaker 3: being signed over to Brandon, and she kind of convinced
- 29:07Speaker 3: Dorothy to hire an attorney and bring this case to
- 29:11Speaker 3: civil court.
- 29:14Speaker 1: So Dorothy immediately files a lawsuit against the Nody A's
- 29:19Speaker 1: for fraud and illegal act of sale. It looks like
- 29:25Speaker 1: it's a good case for Dorothy because she basically had
- 29:28Speaker 1: been ripped off. I mean, she was swindled out of
- 29:31Speaker 1: the land.
- 29:33Speaker 3: So they got a court date set up for a
- 29:38Speaker 3: judge to hear the case. But a week prior to
- 29:42Speaker 3: the case coming up, that's when Dorothy went missing.
- 29:51Speaker 1: So that turned the case on its head once that
- 29:54Speaker 1: was found out.
- 30:02Speaker 2: Brandon Nodier has become the latest suspect in the murder
- 30:05Speaker 2: of his employer, Dorothy Thompson.
- 30:08Speaker 3: When Brandon was interviewed, he said that Patricia Newman had
- 30:12Speaker 3: motive to do this. He said she befriended Dorothy because
- 30:19Speaker 3: she was trying to take her property.
- 30:23Speaker 4: We didn't believe it.
- 30:27Speaker 2: The circumstantial details are also against him.
- 30:32Speaker 7: The proximity of the lawsuit to the murder is very suspicious.
- 30:36Speaker 7: And it would lead investigators to potentially believe that the
- 30:40Speaker 7: person who's involved in the lawsuit is involved in the murder.
- 30:46Speaker 2: The challenge for detectives is they have no physical evidence
- 30:49Speaker 2: tying Brandon to Dorothy's disappearance.
- 30:56Speaker 6: When you have no evidence, it's a real challenge. You
- 30:59Speaker 6: keep going back at, what am I missing? Let's find
- 31:02Speaker 6: another way. Think outside the box. Let's get from A
- 31:04Speaker 6: to B where we have to get to. And oftentimes,
- 31:08Speaker 6: it's frustrating.
- 31:14Speaker 1: We were in the process at that time of piecing
- 31:17Speaker 1: back some of the information. When in 2009, we received
- 31:23Speaker 1: an ominous call from a guy that says he has
- 31:26Speaker 1: information about an old murder. So I start talking to
- 31:30Speaker 1: this guy, and he says, you know, I know about
- 31:32Speaker 1: an old murder, and I can help you all solve it.
- 31:34Speaker 1: Which murder? And he says, the Pet Sematary murder.
- 31:40Speaker 3: So we asked him if we could meet with him,
- 31:42Speaker 3: and he was very reluctant at first to meet with us.
- 31:47Speaker 2: Detectives convince the caller, Juan Garcia, to talk.
- 31:53Speaker 1: I pick him up, and he's a tough guy from
- 31:56Speaker 1: the street. I mean, he's not some shrinking violet. He
- 32:02Speaker 1: was scared to death. He said he was a friend
- 32:07Speaker 1: of Brandon Odie. And Brandon admitted to him that he
- 32:12Speaker 1: had killed her, and he was glad that he did
- 32:14Speaker 1: it because she deserved it. He said he never told
- 32:19Speaker 1: anyone because he was afraid of Brandon, and they were friends.
- 32:25Speaker 2: Though his story sounds convincing, the timing is suspicious.
- 32:29Speaker 3: We asked him in the interview, what's making you come
- 32:32Speaker 3: forward now to talk about this case? And he said
- 32:36Speaker 3: he had a premonition that this lady showed up at
- 32:39Speaker 3: his bed while he was sleeping and she had chains on.
- 32:44Speaker 3: And it was Miss Thompson. And he said, Miss Thompson,
- 32:49Speaker 3: and asked him to get her justice. And that's why
- 32:52Speaker 3: he was there.
- 32:56Speaker 1: He said all sorts of crazy things. But in addition,
- 33:00Speaker 1: he knew things about the case that really, some of
- 33:03Speaker 1: it was reported in the paper, but not all of it.
- 33:07Speaker 1: But it wasn't quite enough. You have to do the job,
- 33:11Speaker 1: and you have to investigate every case, regardless of what
- 33:14Speaker 1: it looks like on the surface. She was a helpless woman, really.
- 33:27Speaker 1: Somebody has to speak for the dead It's our duty.
- 33:33Speaker 1: I felt like I was compelled to solve it. This one,
- 33:41Speaker 1: this was mine. So we had to do a lot more.
- 33:48Speaker 3: We came up with the idea that we was going
- 33:50Speaker 3: to go try to talk to Bonnie Nodier. We figured
- 33:53Speaker 3: that she would be the one to talk to about this.
- 34:00Speaker 3: Many years have gone by, and she may need to
- 34:03Speaker 3: get this off her chest.
- 34:08Speaker 2: They speak to Bonnie while Brandon is away.
- 34:10Speaker 3: I told her we had a witness that came forward,
- 34:13Speaker 3: and we need to talk to her about it.
- 34:15Speaker 4: I said, talk to her attorney.
- 34:21Speaker 3: They have nothing to say.
- 34:25Speaker 1: We wanted her to go back and tell him that
- 34:27Speaker 1: we were close. We're coming for you, buddy. Our intentions
- 34:34Speaker 1: were to force him to make a mistake. That was
- 34:36Speaker 1: our only shot at it.
- 34:42Speaker 3: A few weeks go by. We get a call in
- 34:45Speaker 3: the office from a female who said her husband's in
- 34:48Speaker 3: jail in St. Tammany Parish, and he wants to talk
- 34:52Speaker 3: about a homicide. So myself and Colonel Dorian went over
- 34:57Speaker 3: to St.
- 34:58Speaker 5: Tammany.
- 34:59Speaker 4: And met with an individual in the jail.
- 35:08Speaker 1: James Traggler had a long criminal history of bombings and
- 35:11Speaker 1: all sorts of crazy things. As it turns out, he
- 35:18Speaker 1: was a close friend of Brandon, and he worked at
- 35:20Speaker 1: the Pet Cemetery with Brandon. He hasn't seen Brandon in
- 35:25Speaker 1: 25 years. He says Brandon pays him a visit at
- 35:30Speaker 1: the jail after we talked to Brandon's wife. Brandon says
- 35:36Speaker 1: the detectives are snooping around. So whatever happened between you
- 35:39Speaker 1: and me a long time ago needs to stay between
- 35:41Speaker 1: you and I.
- 35:44Speaker 2: Brandon's visit brings back memories Tregler has been trying to forget.
- 35:51Speaker 1: He said back in 1985, he was working with Brandon
- 35:58Speaker 1: at the pet cemetery. One night, Brandon calls him up
- 36:04Speaker 1: out of the blue. He tells him, would you take
- 36:06Speaker 1: a ride with me? I need your help or something.
- 36:14Speaker 1: So he says they go down to the pet cemetery.
- 36:20Speaker 1: And he tells James to stay in the truck. So
- 36:24Speaker 1: James does. He said, while he's out in the truck,
- 36:26Speaker 1: Brandon goes inside of the house.
- 36:32Speaker 3: Then a few minutes go by, he hears Miss Thompson
- 36:36Speaker 3: inside the house screaming.
- 36:43Speaker 1: He gets out of the truck and he looks in
- 36:44Speaker 1: the door when he sees Brandon on top of Dorothy
- 36:48Speaker 1: choking her with her legs flailing. So he yells at Brandon, hey,
- 36:55Speaker 1: what are you doing? Stop. Brandon gets up. He tells
- 37:00Speaker 1: James to go back in the truck and wait. But
- 37:07Speaker 1: during this time, Dorothy comes back to life. She's not dead.
- 37:13Speaker 1: And she starts screaming, and No-Day jumps back on her
- 37:16Speaker 1: and begins to choke her again. A little while later,
- 37:21Speaker 1: Brandon comes out, says, look, you need to help me
- 37:24Speaker 1: move the body.
- 37:27Speaker 2: Tregla explains Brandon's visit to the prison decades later was
- 37:30Speaker 2: no social call.
- 37:32Speaker 1: Brandon gives him an ominous message. I know where your
- 37:35Speaker 1: wife lives, and I know what kind of car she drives.
- 37:39Speaker 1: And Brandon told Tregla, if you ever say anything, I'll
- 37:42Speaker 1: kill you and your whole family.
- 37:47Speaker 2: James Tregla's jailhouse confession has police convinced Brandon Nodier is
- 37:52Speaker 2: guilty of killing Dorothy Thompson.
- 37:55Speaker 1: Tregler maintained all along that he was an unwitting participant
- 38:00Speaker 1: in this crime, that he had no idea what Brandon
- 38:02Speaker 1: O'Day was going to do, that he only participated because
- 38:06Speaker 1: he was scared to death of Brandon.
- 38:10Speaker 8: The word of a convicted criminal is always suspicious. It's
- 38:14Speaker 8: always something that police have to check the hard facts
- 38:17Speaker 8: and make sure that they validate what the person has said.
- 38:22Speaker 7: So you've got motive, you've got opportunity, you've got them
- 38:25Speaker 7: both in spades, but you don't have enough to get
- 38:28Speaker 7: a conviction.
- 38:31Speaker 2: They need to corroborate Tregla's story.
- 38:36Speaker 3: Tregla gave us some facts that never was published, some
- 38:40Speaker 3: things that nobody else would have known about unless they was.
- 38:43Speaker 4: At that scene.
- 38:45Speaker 5: Particularly with the plastic, the chains, that information was ever
- 38:51Speaker 5: publicized back in 85.
- 38:52Speaker 3: So everything that he said was verified. Well, the Stapenow
- 39:00Speaker 3: Parish District Attorney's Office put it in front of a
- 39:02Speaker 3: grand jury, and they indicted Brandon on a second degree
- 39:06Speaker 3: murder charge. So the next time we seen Brandon, we
- 39:09Speaker 3: had an arrest warrant for him.
- 39:14Speaker 2: The timeline. shows how the events of Dorothy's last day
- 39:18Speaker 2: culminated in her violent death. Dorothy hires Kenneth Pull.
- 39:30Speaker 1: To do some work. He brings her to the bank.
- 39:34Speaker 1: She pays him, runs some errands. She goes back home
- 39:42Speaker 1: at about 9 PM. She talks to Patricia Newman. That night,
- 39:54Speaker 1: maybe around midnight or so, Nody arrives at the house.
- 39:58Speaker 1: With James Tregler, probably forces his way in. He may
- 40:04Speaker 1: still have had a key.
- 40:09Speaker 5: Nodier was probably upset that he wasn't getting the property.
- 40:15Speaker 5: He was probably upset that there were proceedings in court
- 40:20Speaker 5: which may have.
- 40:21Speaker 4: Prevented him from even trying to steal the property.
- 40:28Speaker 1: He goes in and he attacks Dorothy. A little while later,
- 40:36Speaker 1: they wrapped her in the chains. They put her in
- 40:38Speaker 1: the back of his pickup truck. And they drove to
- 40:43Speaker 1: the Belle Chase Ferry Landing, which is several miles from
- 40:46Speaker 1: the Pet Sematary. And they simply threw her in the river.
- 40:59Speaker 2: On April 12, 2012, almost 27 years after the crime,
- 41:05Speaker 2: Brandon Nodier awaits his fate.
- 41:08Speaker 1: At the end of the day, the district attorney made
- 41:10Speaker 1: a plea bargain. He pled guilty to manslaughter, which is
- 41:14Speaker 1: a lesser charge. But he got up in front of court,
- 41:18Speaker 1: admitted what he had done.
- 41:20Speaker 5: To the question of, are you pleading guilty? Because in fact,
- 41:23Speaker 5: you are guilty to the killing of Dorothy Thompson. He
- 41:26Speaker 5: stood before the judge and said, Yes, sir, Your Honor.
- 41:32Speaker 2: The play agreement clearly identifies Nodier as being solely responsible.
- 41:38Speaker 1: Treglup had a lawyer, and with his testimony, he was
- 41:42Speaker 1: given immunity, and he was never prosecuted.
- 41:48Speaker 2: Brandon Nodier is sentenced to 10 years in prison.
- 41:55Speaker 3: I don't think he had a guilty conscience. I don't
- 41:57Speaker 3: think it weighed on Brandon at all. Because looking at
- 42:00Speaker 3: him in court when he pled, he was still really cold.
- 42:03Speaker 3: He didn't show no remorse, no nothing.
- 42:08Speaker 1: I had mixed feelings because I thought we were happy
- 42:12Speaker 1: that we were able to solve it. I was disappointed
- 42:15Speaker 1: that he didn't get more time. I would have preferred
- 42:18Speaker 1: to go to trial. He should be in prison for
- 42:20Speaker 1: the rest of his life. But we did the best
- 42:24Speaker 1: we could. It's just unfortunate that it took so long
- 42:30Speaker 1: to get to it, but I felt good about it.
- 42:35Speaker 2: One element of Dorothy's story remains a mystery.
- 42:40Speaker 4: The hidden treasure. No one's ever found anything in there.
- 42:49Speaker 1: People still search for that money down there. More than likely,
- 42:53Speaker 1: the money had been spent. That's just my guess. Or
- 42:57Speaker 1: someone found it. Well, we'll never know now. Thank you.