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ROR 129: Nicole · Red Onion Randy - Life in a Supermax Prison

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  Speaker 1: Hello, this is a pre bay call for us and
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  Speaker 1: make it the Pritian Department of Corrections read a new
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  Speaker 1: state prison to accept this call for US zero.
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  Speaker 2: This is Randall Bob. I'm currently serving one thousand, two
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  Speaker 2: hundred and fourteen years for capital murder and right on
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  Speaker 2: your state person in state of Virginia in the Usay.
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  Speaker 2: This is my podcast Right on Your Random and I
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  Speaker 2: hope you enjoy listening to me today.
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  Speaker 3: This is Randall Bob.
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  Speaker 4: I'm currently serving one thy two hundred and fourteen years
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  Speaker 4: for capital to murder and on barbery than Keene Mountain
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  Speaker 4: Correctional Center in.
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  Speaker 3: Oakwood, Virginia.
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  Speaker 4: This is my podcast Right on Your Randy. I have
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  Speaker 4: you know, leave a message, encouragement, ask a question, whatever
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  Speaker 4: it may be. The number is one eight eight five
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  Speaker 4: two four one nine three two.
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  Speaker 3: That's in the United States.
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  Speaker 4: Anyone outside of the US simply put a plus in
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  Speaker 4: front of the one and it's the exact same number.
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  Speaker 4: Hope to hear from me.
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  Speaker 3: Today's episode. I want to talk about my fiance soon
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  Speaker 3: to be wife, Nicole. The crazy thing is I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to introduce her as a matter of fact, she's actually
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  Speaker 3: recorded some stuff and I'm gonna let that play, and
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  Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna let her tell how we met
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  Speaker 3: and you know, and so on and so forth, and
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  Speaker 3: I'll leave that up to her. I know, this might
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  Speaker 3: come as a surprise that I'm in a relationship, that
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  Speaker 3: I'm engaged, and I'm in the process of getting married hopefully,
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  Speaker 3: hopefully sometime on the second week of September. It was
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  Speaker 3: a point where I was never going to get into
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  Speaker 3: another relationship again after Jennifer. Jennifer kind of broke me,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, it made me just not want to
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  Speaker 3: be in a relationship until I got out in prison,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and I was I was farm about that.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I've had you know, in between that time
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  Speaker 3: and between Jennifer and Nick, I had several women reach
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  Speaker 3: out to me that wanted relationships.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: One of them was a former model, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: mean something. You know. One of them was a doctor.
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  Speaker 3: Uh like, that's some beautiful women. Like I was, nope,
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  Speaker 3: not not doing it and just not gonna happen. And
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  Speaker 3: it was just something different about Nick, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: things that she went through and she was going through,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we just like she really needed me in
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  Speaker 3: that moment, and we just we started talking and you know,
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  Speaker 3: and I did everything I could do encourage her, to
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  Speaker 3: inspire and to help her, you know, and I just
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  Speaker 3: I accepted her. I accepted her darkness, I accepted her pain,
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  Speaker 3: and there was no judgment on my part. And she
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  Speaker 3: did the exact same for me, you know, because at
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  Speaker 3: that time I had I had just got kicked off
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  Speaker 3: a red Onion and transferred to Wallace Ridge and you know,
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  Speaker 3: which was one of the darker periods in my life,
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  Speaker 3: you know, in the last several years. You know, it
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  Speaker 3: was law and Dridge was extremely tough for me to
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  Speaker 3: deal with, just because not really so much to prison,
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  Speaker 3: but the people I was in the part with, like
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  Speaker 3: it was, it was just so difficult. And she was
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  Speaker 3: there for me. She helped me, you know, and it
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  Speaker 3: was just that mutual back and forth when we fell
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  Speaker 3: in love. You know, that kind of caught me by surprise.
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  Speaker 3: But I couldn't be more thankful, more grateful for you know,
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  Speaker 3: she She she is the answer to my prayers. You know,
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  Speaker 3: she's everything and more that I won't be a woman
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  Speaker 3: and I got it, and I got it in space.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna let her. I'm gonna let y'all listen to
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  Speaker 3: her her side of you know, how we met and
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  Speaker 3: and everything, and I hope y'all enjoyed listening to her.
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  Speaker 3: Here she is.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my real name is there.
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  Speaker 5: My stage name was, and I've used quite a lot
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  Speaker 5: of few names over in between, but my stage name.
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  Speaker 1: For Brasas was.
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  Speaker 5: And I got into the second stream when I was sixteen,
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  Speaker 5: and I'd done porn for Braza since I was twenty
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  Speaker 5: and how I met Randy. So I saw his documentary
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  Speaker 5: a few years ago and I watched it. I found
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  Speaker 5: it interesting, and I.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't I just thought it was interesting.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't think anything more of it, and if anything,
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  Speaker 5: it sounds bad, but I thought it was a bit encouraging.
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  Speaker 1: Because his life was worse than mine.
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  Speaker 5: But I felt drawn to him by watching it, and
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  Speaker 5: he stood out to me in that documentary. But at
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  Speaker 5: that time, a few years ago, the first time I
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  Speaker 5: watched it, I didn't think much eur Suffolk. I just
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  Speaker 5: I just yeah, there was no need to contact him.
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  Speaker 5: I've never contacted someone in that situation.
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  Speaker 1: I've never you know, I've had.
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  Speaker 5: The partners that I've been with in the past they've
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  Speaker 5: been in prison, but they wasn't in prison when you know,
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  Speaker 5: without knowing them. So yeah, I related to the life,
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  Speaker 5: but I felt no need to contact him.
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  Speaker 1: At that particular time.
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  Speaker 5: When I first watched it, I was in a relationship,
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  Speaker 5: and yeah, I just I just felt no need to
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  Speaker 5: reach out to him or anything.
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  Speaker 1: And I felt kind of like drawn.
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  Speaker 5: To him, related to him, but there was no need
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  Speaker 5: to do anything else with it. And a few years
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  Speaker 5: went on and I was having a particularly bad day
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  Speaker 5: and I really wanted to quit doing what I was doing.
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  Speaker 1: I was having a particularly bad day. I had.
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  Speaker 5: Basically pissed off the main director and he had switched
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  Speaker 5: my scenes up just to basically humiliate me to the
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  Speaker 5: best that he could. And I you don't get paid
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  Speaker 5: until you do the If you're contracted, you don't get
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  Speaker 5: paid until you finished the contract.
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  Speaker 1: And I was tossing in my head at the time whether.
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  Speaker 5: To leave or just to whether to just to like leave.
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  Speaker 2: Or to.
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  Speaker 1: Finish the scenes that I was contracted to do.
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  Speaker 5: But there was a lot of things going on behind
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  Speaker 5: the scenes, and it was just really hard. I just
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  Speaker 5: felt like I felt that there was no one that
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  Speaker 5: cared about me. There was no one that loved me.
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  Speaker 5: There was no one that even now we're calling it
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  Speaker 5: it's a bit hard, it's kind of hard. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 5: just I thinking back to that day, the last day
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  Speaker 5: I It wasn't the last day I went there, but
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  Speaker 5: it was the last time I made decision not to.
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  Speaker 1: Go do again. Yeah, just having to have it is humiliating.
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  Speaker 5: But having to have sex with every guy in the
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  Speaker 5: room being told what to do, being told how to
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  Speaker 5: do it. And I know people probably watched that saying
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  Speaker 5: I've googled it afterwards. I know people that they get
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  Speaker 5: a kick out of it, but for me, it's a
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  Speaker 5: miliating and just being gamband. But before even that scene happens,
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  Speaker 5: I have sex of everyone. Yeah, it just it just
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  Speaker 5: kind of it was it was, it was, it was.
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  Speaker 5: It was a rough day and I just wanted to
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  Speaker 5: go home. And and then I thought that even with
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  Speaker 5: going home, it's not going to feel better. And I
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  Speaker 5: left Blazers and I went on the train and I
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  Speaker 5: was crying, which is something that's really unbre all for
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  Speaker 5: me because I'm used to just putting my emotions at bay,
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  Speaker 5: but I couldn't that day. And then when I got
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  Speaker 5: on the train, I just thought to myself, let me
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  Speaker 5: just put on my earphone, so let me listen to something,
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  Speaker 5: just to.
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  Speaker 1: Take my mind off my own mind.
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  Speaker 5: And there was someone on YouTube that I used to
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  Speaker 5: listen to all twenty three and one, and he had
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  Speaker 5: just posted a new video about red Onion and he
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  Speaker 5: showed a clip of Randy and I thought I went
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  Speaker 5: in with that from years ago. And someone had left
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  Speaker 5: a comment to say that he had.
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  Speaker 1: Someone on the section. I said that he had, He's
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  Speaker 1: got a podcast now.
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  Speaker 5: On the way home, I watched a documentary and when
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  Speaker 5: I got back, I watched, well, I listened to I
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  Speaker 5: can't even remember what I listened to, but I listened
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  Speaker 5: to one of his podcasts, and I wrote with him
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  Speaker 5: an email and I just felt so even now, like
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  Speaker 5: even recording it, like yeah, it's crazy. I just like,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, it's not something that I've never liked.
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  Speaker 5: Emailed someone I don't know, but I just emailed him.
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  Speaker 1: I just said, like basically what happened in the day,
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  Speaker 1: And for.
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  Speaker 5: Me at that point, it wasn't anything intentional. It was
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  Speaker 5: just like it was selfish of me or I just
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  Speaker 5: wanted to get everything off of my chest and that's
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  Speaker 5: what I've done. And I didn't know if he would
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  Speaker 5: email me back, and then at that point it didn't
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  Speaker 5: even really matter if he did or he didn't. Like
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  Speaker 5: it was just something that I just felt like I
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  Speaker 5: had to like because I just felt on the brink.
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  Speaker 5: I felt like I just didn't even know that day
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  Speaker 5: I was going home, and I was just thinking, I
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  Speaker 5: don't want to leave anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't feel like anyone.
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  Speaker 5: Respects me and anyone loves me, and anyone even cares
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  Speaker 5: about me.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that.
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  Speaker 5: Any difference I'm making this world is just for being
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  Speaker 5: basically a whore, you know.
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  Speaker 1: That's what like.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't feel any sense of like of myself. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's hard.
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  Speaker 1: Even just like talking about it, to be honest with you,
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  Speaker 1: but because yeah, it brings me back. But yeah, So.
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  Speaker 5: The way I reached out to Landy originally was just
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  Speaker 5: to get stuff off of my chest, to be honest
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  Speaker 5: with you, and just just to say that because when
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  Speaker 5: I watched the documentary years ago, it was just that
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  Speaker 5: I thought, Okay, carry on, it's not that it's not
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  Speaker 5: too bad, you know, carry on, people have it worse
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  Speaker 5: than you. That was my initial response to it, because
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  Speaker 5: at least I'm not in his circumstances. And I guess
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  Speaker 5: the first time I reached him again it was probably
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  Speaker 5: the same thing, but it was more when a like
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  Speaker 5: thank you, kind of like, oh my god, you can
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  Speaker 5: go on and it didn't even matter. And I've said
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  Speaker 5: that to him ideally it didn't even matter. But I
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  Speaker 5: didn't think that, oh my god, that's what I want
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  Speaker 5: to be with him or what.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't like that at all in this lies that.
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  Speaker 1: It was just more of a h a breath.
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  Speaker 6: And he did respond, And that was weird as well,
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  Speaker 6: because I wasn't I didn't really know.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know what to think of it at that time.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I thought, well, you know, we'll take it,
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  Speaker 5: I think I thought to myself at that point. I
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  Speaker 5: was like, well, any think that he's willing to tell me?
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  Speaker 3: I was taking on.
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  Speaker 1: Board and that was my thought at that moment.
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  Speaker 5: And we kept communicating, and because I had already told
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  Speaker 5: him probably the worst of me, there was no reason
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  Speaker 5: to like.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of dismiss anything else.
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  Speaker 5: I was just like open with him from the beginning,
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  Speaker 5: and the more that he didn't judge me more I
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  Speaker 5: didn't judge him, and I think that's how we got
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  Speaker 5: to the stage that we were because we were just
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  Speaker 5: like honest with each other.
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  Speaker 1: And it's so weird.
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  Speaker 5: It is weird, and when I say it out loud,
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  Speaker 5: it is like weird to other people as well, and
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  Speaker 5: it's just like, well, I understand it, he understands me.
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  Speaker 5: And I've never had that before. I've never had that
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  Speaker 5: connection with someone before. I've never been so drawn, even
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  Speaker 5: like now there's a picture of him like down there
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  Speaker 5: on my wall.
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  Speaker 1: I've just never like felt so like drawn to another
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  Speaker 1: human being.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like even when I do stupid things and
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  Speaker 5: if he does steep things like, I feel like we
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  Speaker 5: can we can speak. I've never had like that amount
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  Speaker 5: of trust in someone, and especially with someone that you've
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  Speaker 5: never met. It's crazy, it's insane to me. I can't
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  Speaker 5: even want my own head around it. But I do
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  Speaker 5: feel like he's the best thing that's ever happened to me.
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  Speaker 1: I do. I feel like.
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  Speaker 5: A connection with him, And even when stuff like when
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  Speaker 5: it's so weird, it's crazy, if I say out loud,
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  Speaker 5: it's crazy, But there's so many things even when I
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  Speaker 5: do stuff's going on with him and I can't get
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  Speaker 5: that communication with him.
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  Speaker 1: I feel weird in order I feel weird. I never
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  Speaker 1: believed in.
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  Speaker 7: Like soul tires and stuff like that, but I do
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  Speaker 7: with him because I feel it's I feel like I'm
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  Speaker 7: supposed to be with him.
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  Speaker 5: And he's got so much that Yeah, I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: what he's done is messed up, right, But if everyone
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  Speaker 5: was to say everything that they've done on a white sheet,
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  Speaker 5: it would all be messed up. And these things that
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  Speaker 5: people can just find their heads and there's things that people.
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  Speaker 1: That that can't.
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  Speaker 5: But that's up to the individual. But it's he's got
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  Speaker 5: so much good in him. He's like, I love him.
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  Speaker 5: I want to be with him, and my.
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  Speaker 1: Lung's thinking like that. I don't know, but I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: That's it's just that's just the way I feel. That's
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  Speaker 1: the answering question.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I find it crazy that someone like me can
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  Speaker 3: find someone like her in this environment in prison. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I just I had just had a video visit with
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  Speaker 3: her this morning, and you know, we were talking about
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  Speaker 3: her friend Kitty, you know, and some of the things
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  Speaker 3: she's dealing with. And I'm sitting here just looking at
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  Speaker 3: her and I'm just thanking God in my head for
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  Speaker 3: her that, you know, I don't have to deal with
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  Speaker 3: the drama that a lot of people in the world
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  Speaker 3: have to deal with in their relationships. You know, me
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  Speaker 3: and Nick, we haven't had a single argument. You know,
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  Speaker 3: we have some duke points, you know that we disagree on,
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  Speaker 3: specifically over Trump. I'm I'm pro Trump, she is not.
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  Speaker 3: You know this, like, we haven't had a single argument.
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  Speaker 3: We haven't had a single fight. You know, we just
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  Speaker 3: we talk. You know, She's allowed to have her opinion.
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  Speaker 3: I'm allowed to have my opinion. And there's no animosity.
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  Speaker 3: If you know there's a digression, you know there's a
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  Speaker 3: different viewpen we just simply we we talk and we
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  Speaker 3: discuss it and we don't get in our feelings over
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  Speaker 3: and Like, I can't believe how blessed I am. I
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  Speaker 3: can't believe how lucky I am.
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  Speaker 8: How do you manage a relationship? How do you think
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  Speaker 8: about the future given that you're in different countries and
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  Speaker 8: then around he's serving a sentence of life.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, I have a criminal record myself, so it would
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  Speaker 5: be tricky. We've spoken about it.
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  Speaker 1: It wouldn't be possible for me to.
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  Speaker 5: Be in the USA and it wouldn't be possible for
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  Speaker 5: inter in the UK, but there are other countries that
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  Speaker 5: we can go to.
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  Speaker 1: And being which is possible.
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  Speaker 5: And it's hard because you're you're living off just kind
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  Speaker 5: of fake you're living off the.
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  Speaker 1: You're living against the odds basically because in all.
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  Speaker 5: Lines of it, it shouldn't work.
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  Speaker 1: It couldn't work, but it can. But I know what,
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  Speaker 1: Like he I know his strength and I kind of
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  Speaker 1: know mine as well, So it's just like if we
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  Speaker 1: want it to work, it can work.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, it's going to be difficult in terms of communication.
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  Speaker 1: And stuff like that. It's hard.
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  Speaker 5: Like I'll speak to him more as daily, but it's
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  Speaker 5: still twenty minutes a day.
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  Speaker 1: And it's just it's not I'm a needy person.
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  Speaker 5: I know that, and if I'm connected with someone, I
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  Speaker 5: need to speak to them daily.
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  Speaker 1: I need that, I need I need.
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  Speaker 5: Them, So I'm not having that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard, but there's nothing that he can do
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  Speaker 1: about it.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm not gonna like put that on him because
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  Speaker 5: that's going to make him feel bad because what can you.
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  Speaker 1: Do about that? So I just have to be strong
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  Speaker 1: enough to manage that. But yeah, I mean, if I.
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  Speaker 5: Can be with him or absolutely want to, but it's
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  Speaker 5: just it's just timing and patience.
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  Speaker 1: And it builds character as well. It does. It builds
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  Speaker 1: character because it makes you you double think because you
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  Speaker 1: get you know, you get guys walking up to you,
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  Speaker 1: like talking.
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  Speaker 5: On you and stuff like that, and you think, I've
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  Speaker 5: got this action, I've got option, but that's not what
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  Speaker 5: you want. You want that person that you feel truly
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  Speaker 5: connected with, like truly connected with. And my fear is
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  Speaker 5: that he would come back and he would see other
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  Speaker 5: options and stuff, he would go with them, and then
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  Speaker 5: it feels like I've dedicated that amount of time and
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  Speaker 5: he doesn't want to be with me. But that's just
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  Speaker 5: my insecurities, and to be honest with you, I don't
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  Speaker 5: think he thinks that at all, But it's just the
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  Speaker 5: natural insecurities that you have because you have not had
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  Speaker 5: that connection with someone in terms of like physically, in
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  Speaker 5: terms of like being with them. But the way my
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: mind works is mental, like I have to before anything else.
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  Speaker 5: I have to feel it, like in my head. So yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's difficult, it's strained, but he makes it worth it
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  Speaker 5: because I feel.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like it's meant. I feel drawn to
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  Speaker 1: him literally just drawn to him. So it's just that's that.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, it is difficult. It is.
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: I mean, twenty minutes a day with someone, even if
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: like he calls back and it's forty minutes, and for
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: someone like me, yeah, I kind of need that constant communication.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: I need that, and I know he does the best
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: that he can and but but by him doing that
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: shows me that he cares and shows me that he's
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: putting in the effort in his side and that's all
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: he can do at the moment. So I think, you know,
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: that's what it is, and Eva steps or I don't,
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: and I've accepted. So it's not for everyone. You know,
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: a lot of people like they tell me I'm crazy,
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: but yeah I'm not, because I think Randy's amazing. I
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: think I think he's so amazing. I think he's so strong,
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: and that's the best part of him, you know.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, that is the best parts of him.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: I told him the other day, I was just like
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: anyone that goes through hell and comes back scream.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: I think he's so amazing. I think he's got so
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: much quality is about him. And yeah, I think he's
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: so honest. Brutally honest, good and bad. But that's what
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: makes him just perfection in my eyes. And it might
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: be a twisted way of thinking of it, but yeah,
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: because every what everyone in this world has done shit
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: right and people just don't say it. They don't say
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: the bad stuff. They don't, they leave that out, and
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: he hasn't. He owns himself and.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: I turned him all.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: I love the way you's just own yourself. I love
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: the way you are who you are, even if you're wrong,
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: you're still You're still who you are. And that's what people.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Don't do. Yeah, And just coming from my background, it's
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: just like I know how people.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: I know how people can perceive themselves as a certain
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: way and not be that certain way behind closed doors.
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: I know people can smile at your parents and just like.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Right people behind closed doors. I know it.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: I've gone through that. So it's just like people can
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: be who they they can put on a persona or
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: they can be who they are, and it's harder being
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: who you actually are. And he's done it, and I
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: think it's amazing. I think it's so strong and to
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: be like, yeah, I'm just amazed by him. I'm fascinated
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: by him and then getting to know him, just his female,
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: his character, just who he is, like when he's vulnerable,
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: like when he opens up a bit, and it's just
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: like I love it. And yeah, so to answer your question, Uh,
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: we can make it. If he's at a prison, we
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: can make it work. And that's o kay. We'll we'll
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: back up and yeah, well we'll go with what he
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: needs to gout.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: H I