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- 1:27Hi, you On. Are you there? I am, UM. Hey,
- 1:34So this is a cool Twitter spaces learning a lot about this platform.
- 1:42Yeah, um, I mean it's a great way to talk directly to people,
- 1:46um and have just a kind of a real time conversation. UM and
- 1:52yeah, so uh uh yeah, thanks for doing this. So I guess
- 2:00um, so would you like to make announcement? Thank you Elon UM and
- 2:08you know, working with Elon as team, I'm really excited for for our
- 2:15industry and for the Ford customers we're going to be We're announcing that in early
- 2:21twenty twenty four, all of Fords existing customers and future customers would have access
- 2:28to twelve thousand tests of superchargers, high speed superchargers across the US. We're
- 2:35really excited about that. We're ramping production and we think this is a huge
- 2:40move for our industry and for all electric customers. And then about a year
- 2:46later, we're going to be equipping our forwards when when we go to our
- 2:51second generation electric vehicles with the NACS interface. So it's really Elana want to
- 3:00thank you and your team. It's been great working with you so far,
- 3:02and I'm really excited about what this means for customers. How did you know
- 3:07we've been talking about this for a while, you and I, uh,
- 3:10what are your thoughts? Yeah, well, um, well, it's certainly
- 3:16super exciting to be uh in partnership with Ford, UM to have a transfer
- 3:23amount of respectful Forward as a company and makes great, great vehicles, So
- 3:31UM yeah, this this this is uh you know, it's something where where
- 3:37we're super happy to support um U UM for vehicles with that tells a supercharging
- 3:45network UM and uh you know also provide UM API access so like uh you
- 3:52know, so like a forward vehicle can charge at a tells a supercharger using
- 3:58a forward app UM seamless essentially, like the the idea is that like we
- 4:03don't want that tells the supercharger network to be like a world world garden,
- 4:09you know, we want it to be something that is supportive of UM electrification
- 4:14and and uh sustainable transport in general. So UM and we were very very
- 4:20much appreciative of of Ford, uh you know, interested in partnering on this
- 4:27front. So uh, it's it is uh in our intent to do everything
- 4:32possible to support UM forward and and have Ford be on an equal footing.
- 4:38Um AT tells the superchargers. Well, this is a really really big deal
- 4:44for for our customers, UM, because opening we have about ten thousand fast
- 4:50chargers now, but twelve thousand we and we love, we love the locations,
- 4:55we love the reliability routing software UM, easy use of the connector,
- 5:01UM, the reliability of it. UM. I think it's it's a pretty
- 5:06amazing what what you and your team have have done for for the customers.
- 5:12UM. How are you seeing things in Europe? Because I know that's a
- 5:15little bit different, Well, the europe'spec UM. It's funny. UM actually
- 5:25went to visit the EU UM Minister of Transport because I was several years ago,
- 5:30UM, because I was actually pretty upset about the EU design And honestly,
- 5:40it was it was it was. It was somewhat of Afica esque situation.
- 5:44UM where where I was I told, well, you know it was
- 5:46designed by a committee. I'm like, well, we didn't know this committee
- 5:48existed. UM. It's like, well but you should have not. Like
- 5:53I'm like, well, how are we supposed to provide input on something we
- 5:56didn't know existed? This is not possible And I hadn't you become law or
- 6:00anything. So I was like, well, how about it for those alternatives,
- 6:05you know, like you can have two or you know, and but
- 6:10but unfortunately the EU connector is very much a design by committee situation um and
- 6:15um, but we're somewhat stuck with it. In fact, we're not even
- 6:18allowed to have private networks in the in the in the EU to have the
- 6:24North American connector so. Um. But but I think it is the you
- 6:30know, the team has don't done a good job, and it's it's a
- 6:32pretty great connector so um. And and if if we you know, working
- 6:38with with Ford and perhaps others, can make it the North American standard,
- 6:42I think the consumers will be all the better for it. UM. So
- 6:48I know you and I've been you know, talking about what we can do
- 6:53together to advance um. You know, the the industry and the customer experience
- 7:00became clear to me. I was I was on vacation my family last year
- 7:03in Lake taw I was driving back I think to Monterey and my kids kids
- 7:09kept look look at me and going, hey, Dad, there's another supercharger.
- 7:14Can you really stop there? How about how about there? How about
- 7:16on the I five? Dad? I was like, no, you have
- 7:19to go, you have to go over here behind this other building, so
- 7:25it kind of became obvious to me, you know, the job your team
- 7:29had done and what it means for customers absolutely so well, um, you
- 7:34know, our goal really is to be helpful as helpful as possible in accelerating
- 7:41towards sustainable transport. Um and you know that's that's also like why why we
- 7:46open source our patents, um and and many of our designs are open sourced.
- 7:51So, um, you're just glad to be as helpful as as possible
- 7:56um and. Um And I think we I think you alluded to it,
- 8:01but we should mention that there will be an adapter. Um. So I
- 8:05think we're aiming for that adapter to be in production early next year. I
- 8:09think, yes, yeah, yes, And that's a really big deal because
- 8:16that you know, I mean, we're we don't we don't have as many
- 8:22EVA customers as you do, but we still have plenty, and you know,
- 8:28for them to be able to have this benefit early next year already and
- 8:31not have to like buy a new cars, I think a real statement by
- 8:35you and the Tesla team you know, to to to be really thinking prioritizing
- 8:43the customers experience. UM. So you know that that's that's really a big
- 8:48deal. And of course we're really we're totally committed that an acs UM interface
- 8:56itself going forward. That's how great? UM, Well, should we maybe
- 9:03take some we take some questions? Um perfect um. Let's see as far
- 9:09as far as ad UM, I have one. I think that's pretty cool.
- 9:13I see which is um, which is um? How will how much
- 9:20it will cost? And so I was thinking that that's a good one.
- 9:24I. You know, we'll obviously trying to make it as affordable and competitive
- 9:28as possible early next year. UM, and we'll have different kinds of payment
- 9:33options like subscriptions, et cetera. Yeah, it's I think it will not
- 9:39be cost prohibitive. It'll be you know, something's quite quite affordable, you
- 9:45know, and in the in the hundreds of dollars range, you know,
- 9:48it's it's it's it's an adapter, so it's not it's not super expensive.
- 9:52Yeah. UM. See. So as far as said, did you have
- 9:58a question, sure, yeah, no, thank you for bringing me up
- 10:00high elon high Jim, congrats on the announcement. UM. Yeah, Jim,
- 10:03I just want to give you props. I think, um, out
- 10:05of all the legacy automakers, I really like the leadership that you've sort of
- 10:09driven for Ford, having the guts and the bravery of you know, really
- 10:13allowing the public seeing the financials for all your business units. I think is
- 10:18is quite a leadership standpoint that I think should be noticed by the rest of
- 10:22the industry. How how do you view that decision within the context of sort
- 10:28of this decision here today and what are some of the I guess challenges or
- 10:33things that you've been able to learn from going through this transition sort of this
- 10:39next generation of board and sort of just high level how are you thinking about
- 10:43forward where it stands today. I think it's just it's just very impressive how
- 10:46you all decided to do that. I think it's really really cool. Well,
- 10:52I think you know obviously tests you know, stormed through the train station
- 10:58like three hundred kilometer per hour Hinkins, and so it's like, um,
- 11:03you know, we're learning a lot. I'd say splitting out the business really
- 11:09has been a game changer for us because it's given us a lot, like
- 11:13we really are focused on, like this decision on trying to work on behalf
- 11:20of the customer and maybe when it was not broken out, we didn't have
- 11:26that laser focus. I think some of the things that we learned, frankly
- 11:31a lot of a lot of them from Elana's team is, you know,
- 11:33our our industry is kind of obsessed with these huge batteries, and I think
- 11:37that's maybe not the right approach. You know, we should make the battery
- 11:41as small as possible actually with a really competitive user experience range, but have
- 11:46like really great fast charging experience combined with that, you know, so we
- 11:50don't have to be driving around, you know, twenty thousand dollars of extra
- 11:54batteries for customers. Um, exactly. Yeah, So I think I've learned
- 12:00that. And also you embedded electric architects, you know, fully updateable vehicle.
- 12:05Like it's super hard what Tesla's done, and I totally respect them,
- 12:11you know, to do that, um, to make a fully software updateable
- 12:13vehicle. And we're in the process of doing. But it's super hard,
- 12:18super already. Um well, I mean we're happy to be helpful, and
- 12:24you know in other respects with you know, on the software front, um
- 12:30that there may be you know, um some you know something where we can
- 12:33be helpful there, you know, in the same way that like maybe Android
- 12:37is you know, helpful to the phone industry as sort of a general statard,
- 12:43like we could potentially open you know, I think open source more code,
- 12:46and you know, we would just would love to be helpful in any
- 12:48way that we can. Yeah, um, I think that's super important.
- 12:58It shouldn't stop now. I'm I'm at she really interested. Ion and your
- 13:01experience so far on Corpus Christie and processing row materials. It seems like you're
- 13:07really learning a lot. Yeah. I mean, our actual goal is to
- 13:11do the least amount uh possible. But but but then we end up hitting
- 13:16these choke points, or we inticipate hitting choke points. UM. So a
- 13:24lot of the vertical integration is really out of necessity. UM. And uh,
- 13:30you know, if we find that there are suppliers that are solving the
- 13:33problem and there's a there's good visibility into the future output roadmap, then uh,
- 13:41you know, there may be cases where we would you know, um,
- 13:46redirect those resources from what what they're doing to something else, because we
- 13:52got we got a triage list of problems a mile long. So but but
- 13:58the you know, we we did see a pretty serious issue with lithium refining.
- 14:03UM that there's a lot of lithium or in the world. UM,
- 14:05like when one looks at the sort of lithium reserves that that's actually a tiny
- 14:11fraction of the amount of lithium that that that is that exists UM. But
- 14:16but the the processing and lithium UM, it's just it seems to be a
- 14:22significant choke point. So that's that's the reason for althium refinery that we just
- 14:28UM brokeground on in Corpus Christie. And then we've got a cathode refinery that's
- 14:35UM on the same piece of land as our factory in Austin. UM.
- 14:39That's that's where a nickel based cathode. And then we're just trying to figure
- 14:43out like, man, do we need to do the ano too? Hopefully
- 14:45not, but if someone else could please do that, that would be also.
- 14:52UM. It's a synthetic graphite. There's a big market for it.
- 14:56I recommend entrepreneurs. I mean I see so many entrepreneurs. It's like you
- 15:01know in Silicon Valley doing like a software startup or you know, sort of
- 15:05chasing the latest, greatest, latest thing, but but not enough of UM.
- 15:09The talent in North America I think goes into heavy industry UM and the
- 15:15crazy thing is like the opportunity and heavy industry is tremendous. Um and so
- 15:20I just would really like to encourage entrepreneurs to to think about things that that
- 15:24don't have both you know, adapt on a phone basically, um, so
- 15:31app on a phone, we need them, but like you know, just
- 15:33an over allocation of talent coming from Ford. I totally agree, totally totally
- 15:41agree. It is super hardmaking cars, so yeah, well it's super hardmaking
- 15:48and better electric architectures too, right back at you, Yeah yeah, um.
- 15:56And it's it's like you know, I guess you know, uh,
- 16:00California gets a lot of flat but but I have to say, like the
- 16:03Tesla SpaceX teams in California are work like how um, you know, we
- 16:07run the Fremont plant twenty four seven in the Bay Area, um and uh
- 16:14and the output at sort of on a Sunday morning is about the same as
- 16:17on a Monday afternoon. UM. And then I was like, well,
- 16:21do we have quality issues maybe that are differential because like who really wants to
- 16:25work at for you I'm on a Sunday um right, But but actually no,
- 16:32no, no, it's it's it's slightly counterintuitive. We actually I mean,
- 16:34look, you know, quality is always a challenge. It's always a
- 16:38challenge. But um, but but actually the quality uh is slightly worse on
- 16:45a on a Monday than it is on a Sunday night shift, which is
- 16:49counterintuitive. Uh that's interesting. UM, I know. Yeah, yeah,
- 16:59I'm getting some questions about, um, all the existing four chargers. Yeah,
- 17:03the everything will still work. So so we're good with that. Um
- 17:07should should we enable car dealership? Guida? I don't know him right?
- 17:14Oh yes, Oh my god? Is that Mike Sullivan? It might be
- 17:18Oh yeah, there we go. Yep, we'llon't enable Okay car dealer?
- 17:25Okay, Mike? Is that is that you calling from Santa Monica? Working
- 17:37to me? Mike? I'm Mike, Mike. Check your Mike. Hey,
- 17:44how are you guys doing. I'm definitely not a Mike, uh,
- 17:48but but I have a Mike. So Hey, thank you, appreciate you
- 17:52bring me off Elon. Jim, Hey for zad uh Jim. I have
- 17:56a question for you regarding and I did miss the whole beginning part of this,
- 18:00so you already spoke about this, But how do you reconcile how do
- 18:04you reconcile the shift electrification um and and specifically with you know, the standards
- 18:11that you know you have a massive dealer network throughout the country. Um so,
- 18:15so that entire shift with the fact that you know, at the end
- 18:19of the day, if we're just being objective, your your customer or a
- 18:25one of your customers, is the dealer still and of course the dealer network,
- 18:30and you know, how do you reconcile all of that. And I'm
- 18:32coming from a position where you know, I don't know how much you know
- 18:34about my mission, but I'm really trying to deliver transparent insights into into the
- 18:38car market and unbiased way. I'm a used car dealer, so I don't
- 18:41have a horse in this race per se. So I'll leave it at that.
- 18:45I'll take a pause, but go ahead. Thanks. Yeah, I
- 18:48think you know, I had the opportunity to lead science and I learned a
- 18:52lot from that experience. I think when you look at the net promoter score
- 18:56of people who buy vehicles, you know they really want transparency in the pricing.
- 19:02So early next year we're going to be going to non negotiate a pricing
- 19:07and more and more people want to do business remotely, so we want to
- 19:10offer that but you know, when you get an accident or you have questions,
- 19:15I mean, people are going to want to talk to someone. So
- 19:19I think I think there's an answer out there. If I look at markets
- 19:23like Norway that are very you know, that have really adopted electrification, there's
- 19:30some combination that I think we're moving to that is good for the customer.
- 19:36And I don't think it's it's odds with you know, the system has been
- 19:40there for one hundred and twenty years. But of course, like commercial vehicles
- 19:44is a little different. You know that network has to do a lot of
- 19:48repair vehicles. They're heavily used, and so you know, physical services like
- 19:53super important for commercial customers. But I think I think we're moving to a
- 20:00different experience and that will be from my experience, that will be a good
- 20:07thing. Look, I don't necessarily disagree on I think that, you know,
- 20:11I'm I love the business and I think Tesla's an enigma in the sense
- 20:15that you know, it's been D two CUM since very early on, and
- 20:19that's how the company was built. I think, you know, speaking I
- 20:23get tons of dms and every day and so it's very I'm a very interesting
- 20:26position where I have a very strong pulse on the market. And you know,
- 20:32you're the CEO of the company, so I'm sure you do too clearly.
- 20:34But I'm constantly seeing stuff like you know, blue Sky multiples, and
- 20:38for anyone in the audience that doesn't know what that means, just means the
- 20:41multiple that Forward stores are selling now they keep declining. And the reason that's
- 20:47important, the reason I pay attention to that in what I do, is
- 20:49because that just tells me that's a has a direct correlation to dealer sentiment and
- 20:53what dealers think that you know, the future hold for a specific brand,
- 20:59And so I think you know that, That's where my head is at,
- 21:02thinking how how does that work itself out? I understand you're right that you
- 21:07know, there's different reasons why DDC can be better for a customer or a
- 21:10dealer network or anything in between. Like we can argue that all day,
- 21:14Um, And I think execute it really does come down to execution in a
- 21:17sense. But I still wonder how how does it all play out given that
- 21:21there is a dealer network and you know that is the reality of how the
- 21:25company structure, you know, going through that transition. Yeah, it's awful.
- 21:33Yeah, I think, Um, I think it is a transition and
- 21:37we're learning. Yeah, what how I kind of think of it is like
- 21:40we're going into a second inning of a nine inning game, so you know,
- 21:44we're gonna make adjustments a long way. I just don't see it as
- 21:48an either or UM, I just don't. I think we need physical outlets
- 21:53here and there. Yeah, I'd agree with that. Um, we should
- 21:59probably not just great too, just because it'll it could easily you know,
- 22:03be like a several hour long um Q and A about Tesla and forward.
- 22:08Yeah. So, UM, you know, we want to say reasonably on
- 22:11topic. UM. So uh you know, if if there are additional speaker
- 22:15requests, uh please, that's that's that's totally cool. But um, we
- 22:21want to stay reasonably on topic. So uh, with that in mind,
- 22:26do you still have a question. I appreciate, Like I said, I
- 22:30Apodi did I missed the beginning it? But I think you know that all
- 22:33when I think about the acceleration EV and I've had I've spoken with several guests
- 22:37that are you know, very active in EV space, not not Tesla,
- 22:40But you know, I just think it's I think through that as you know,
- 22:42what does the world look like in five ten years, where is EVY
- 22:45adoption and what what does that percentage look like? So look, guys,
- 22:48I think it's really cool to see that the two of you on this platform
- 22:51doing this together. So kudos to you for um really teaming up on that.
- 22:55This is good to see and UM yeah that's all for me for now,
- 22:56thank you. Okay, So it's good. Hey, Jim hate Elon,
- 23:03this is ser Joe Rodriguez out here in Monterey, California. So I
- 23:07am absolutely shocked to see this partnership go down. I am impressed as all
- 23:12can be. I mean, if everybody anybody knows me, they know that
- 23:17I'm completely shocked right now. I don't even I don't know where north south
- 23:19east west is right now. But I appreciate the fact that there's going to
- 23:23be a movement forward in as far as it's electrification and that way we can
- 23:29get these naysayers that are out there that you know, feel that range anxiety
- 23:34is limiting and people can't do this and people can't do that. My question
- 23:38goes to, how is the charging speed going to be for us? For
- 23:42us on your network? Are we going to be able to charge at our
- 23:47full capacity? Because I know that with the Magic doc. When I tested
- 23:49it, it was throttled back a bit. It'll really be at whatever the
- 23:56physical limit is of the wiring, and so we'll make sure that the adapter
- 24:02is not the living factor, so it will and and the the super charge
- 24:06will not be the living factor, so it would really be UM, you
- 24:08know, and anything that's on the vehicle side wiring. But well we'll certainly
- 24:14get go as as as fast as the vehicle battery will allow. UM.
- 24:21So you know it is it's certainly the Tesla intent to make this a UM.
- 24:26You know, I seem listen positive experience for for owners perfect it's crazy.
- 24:34Thank you, Elan. I know we're getting the end of our uh
- 24:38end of our time, but I have to ask you. I UM from
- 24:44my podcast, I talked to Neil and Tyson and and and we were both
- 24:49UM the gross Tyson and we were both wondering where is the Tesla roaster in
- 24:56the universe right now? Because I have a few well we have to say
- 25:04everyone out there who has a reservation on Tesla roaster, I'd just like to
- 25:08say thank you for your patients, UM, because and we're certainly testing the
- 25:14patients of of of the new Tesla Roaster customers. I'm actually in the studio
- 25:21here um uh with our head of design actually and our head of Vicole engineering.
- 25:29Um so Lars and France Fronts are here. Lars and Franz are here
- 25:36here. Um so we're actually just looking at the h there. We're hoping
- 25:41to finish the design of the engineering of the new roads to this year and
- 25:45hopefully reach production towards the end of next year. I mean, I do
- 25:49want to emphasize that this is financially sort of a small, small potatoes situation.
- 25:56Um. You know, it's not going to move the needle in a
- 25:57major way financially. So I've characterized it as the it's not even the icing
- 26:02on the cake, it's the cherry on the icing on the cake. Um.
- 26:04But it's it's still it's you know, will be a really really cool
- 26:07thing, and and and and and there's some something you know, poetic about
- 26:15We started roll with the roadster, and we're not gonna end with the roadster.
- 26:18But but it's nice to have it rhyme and come back with with a
- 26:22new versions. So where's the one, where's the one in space? Like,
- 26:27yeah, how far out is it? Well, there's actually somebody maintains
- 26:32a website called where is roadster dot com. Oh really yeah, so at
- 26:36any given point you can uh see where it is. Um. But we
- 26:41ran the sort of orbital calculations forward about ten million years and it did not
- 26:47appear to hit anything for the next ten million years. So it's uh,
- 26:51you know, never know when something that come out of nowhere, but it'll
- 26:53it'll be there in theory, it will be there, um after the even
- 26:59after the remids have eroded. So it's it's a long term. You know,
- 27:03the aliens, if aliens come in the future, they were like,
- 27:07hey, what's this thing? Um? And then we have we have a
- 27:11we have a tiny roaster like a matchbox car roadster on the dashboard of the
- 27:17roads or so they'd be like maybe they'll think they must they must have worshiped
- 27:21these things. This must be like the religious symbol of something you know.
- 27:25Um, I don't know, um, but uh yeah that's cool. I
- 27:32just want to thank Elan to you and your team for for you know,
- 27:37working together on behalf of all of our customers and for all the customers calling
- 27:41in. Just want to thank you for doing so. We're really pumped up
- 27:47about working with with you to you know, make our customers lives better,
- 27:52and uh, we're really thankful for your partnership. Likewise, um, it's
- 28:00to be working with a great company like Ford and so yeah, it's a
- 28:06look looking forward to doing paths more in the future. So well, yeah,
- 28:10and let's do this again. It's been I've learned a lot and uh
- 28:15yeah it's a great platform. All right, cool, sounds good. Thank
- 28:18you, Okay, thank you. Bye.