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Mac & Bone Hour 3: Panther Fan Optimism · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, oh, oh, it's Mac and Bo on your radio, baby.
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  Speaker 2: This is my friend, Matt.
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  Speaker 3: Posh, come on, Posh.
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  Speaker 2: This is my friend, T-Bone.
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  Speaker 3: Let's have some fun.
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  Speaker 4: I can't go to work without listening to Mac and Bone.
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  Speaker 3: Do it live.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I wasn't here, but, you know, obviously having
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  Speaker 5: Caleb in the building is a huge thing with where
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  Speaker 5: we are and where we're going. And then, of course,
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  Speaker 5: we're able to acquire a lot of draft picks from
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  Speaker 5: that as well. So I think we've got a solid foundation.
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  Speaker 5: I think they're probably looking at it. They've got that
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  Speaker 5: Carolina has a good foundation as well. So it's one
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  Speaker 5: of those things both teams feels pretty good about the
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  Speaker 5: outcome and where we're headed.
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  Speaker 3: That is Ben Johnson.
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  Speaker 1: He was asked to weigh in, Bone, on the Panthers-Bears trade,
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  Speaker 1: the infamous Bryce Young trade. And that was a nice
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  Speaker 1: PC answer from Ben Johnson there.
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  Speaker 3: And he's right.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't there at the time or whatever. And I
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  Speaker 1: have to be honest. I saw we got a few
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  Speaker 1: texts about it this week. Maybe we'll talk about it
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. I don't really care. I just want
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  Speaker 1: the Panthers to defend their title. I just want the
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  Speaker 1: Panthers to improve. Yeah, I'd love to beat them because
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  Speaker 1: of all the trash their fans talk, Bone. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of it is about that trade. But I just want
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  Speaker 1: Bryce Young to be our franchise guy. I mean, if
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  Speaker 1: you look at the ledger, Bone, and if Caleb Williams
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  Speaker 1: keeps improving, I'm not sure it's ever going to look
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  Speaker 1: like the Panthers won that trade.
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  Speaker 3: But can we.
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  Speaker 1: Keep improving on a team that's improved three wins each
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  Speaker 1: of the last two years? Can we repeat as division champs?
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  Speaker 1: Can we maybe win a playoff game? I'm kind of
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  Speaker 1: more focused on that stuff than trying to say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: did we win the– you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Trying to dwell on what is and not what could
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  Speaker 3: have been, right? Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We could spend all day thinking, well, they could have
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  Speaker 2: had this, could have had that. We probably do that sometimes,
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  Speaker 2: but to me it's about where they are now. You
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  Speaker 2: can't put that milk back in the bottle, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, you cannot, sir. You cannot do that. No toothpaste
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  Speaker 1: in the bottle. You can't put something back, right?
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  Speaker 3: Whatever. We smell what you're cooking there, Bo.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on.
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  Speaker 1: Don't be a gotcha guy. We smell what you're cooking.
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  Speaker 1: Gotcha guy. Just promise me you do the finger guns, Bo,
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  Speaker 1: when you say gotcha guy.
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 3: Promise me.
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  Speaker 2: When you get your Harris Teeter sub on Friday, will
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  Speaker 2: you go, gotcha, and give the finger bang?
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  Speaker 3: Finger guns? The bang bang finger? Yeah, keep that at
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  Speaker 3: finger guns, sir. That's what I mean, yeah. Keep that
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  Speaker 3: at finger guns. The finger move there.
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  Speaker 2: The dueling.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was. Oh, God. How about them Panthers, baby? No,
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  Speaker 3: I meant the guns. Whoa, buddy. How about them Panthers?
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  Speaker 3: All right. What a game coming up.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm just going to move along. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to forget that ever occurred. Let's talk about this conversation.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get word on Brooks and Pat Jones and what
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  Speaker 1: are they listed at on the injury list.
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  Speaker 3: Do they practice?
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  Speaker 1: We'll get that word later today, and that'll be a
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  Speaker 1: big conversation. But right now, I want to have a
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  Speaker 1: heart-to-heart with Panther fans. And I want to hear from
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  Speaker 1: people that aren't the regular, like, sky is falling, Bryce
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  Speaker 1: sucks people. I mean, y'all can text in if you
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  Speaker 1: want to. But, like, I want to hear from, like,
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  Speaker 1: just regular Joe Panther people, Joe fan Panther people. The
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  Speaker 1: text line bone often gets dominated by people that are
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  Speaker 1: quantity guys. Over and over again, I'm going to tell
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  Speaker 1: you how much the Panthers are going to suck and
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  Speaker 1: Bryce is going to suck. I just want to hear
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  Speaker 1: from the average Panther fan out there. How much confidence
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  Speaker 1: do you have going into this season? Because it feels like–
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  Speaker 1: and what do you think when you hear– Some of
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  Speaker 1: the negative, you see it on Twitter, some of the
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  Speaker 1: negativity in our fan base. When you hear us read
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  Speaker 1: off some of these negative texts from your fellow Panther fans,
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  Speaker 1: do y'all feel like it's over the top? What is
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  Speaker 1: the appropriate level of confidence for this team? I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to sugarcoat it here. I want to present the
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  Speaker 1: good and the bad side of this. The good side is, Bone,
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  Speaker 1: that we have improved by three wins each year under
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  Speaker 1: Dave Kanellis. that we won the division last year, that
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  Speaker 1: we put on a real good showing in the playoff game.
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  Speaker 1: Matter of fact, lost to the same team the Bears did,
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  Speaker 1: and it was down to the wire in both those
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  Speaker 1: games against the Rams. Had a harder schedule, much harder schedule,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, and strength of schedule than the Bears
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  Speaker 1: did last year. I'll point that out. Had a pretty
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  Speaker 1: damn good offseason. We can bring in guys like Devin
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  Speaker 1: Lloyd and Jalen Phillips. But the downside is, Bone, the injuries, Skorton,
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  Speaker 1: both tackles, and then the way that the preseason went
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  Speaker 1: for the offense, right? One touchdown in five preseason drives,
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  Speaker 1: and then the horrendous Houston practice for the offense. what
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  Speaker 1: do you think bone is the appropriate level of confidence?
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  Speaker 1: And does it, does it strike you as, does it
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  Speaker 1: strike you as over the top negativity from, from some pants?
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  Speaker 2: I do, especially for a team that you mentioned has
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  Speaker 2: gone plus three, the last two years. What about the
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  Speaker 2: defensive improvement back? Where were they two years ago? Without hyperbole,
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  Speaker 2: they were, numbers-wise, the worst defense of all time. Last
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  Speaker 2: year total defense, what were they, 16th, I believe it was?
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  Speaker 2: They were right there in the middle. They added more
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  Speaker 2: to the defense. Derrick Brown is another year removed from
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  Speaker 2: the injury that took him out for the year. So
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  Speaker 2: I think, realistically, this team can go back-to-back in the South,
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  Speaker 2: and we're hoping that the offense shows signs, and I
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  Speaker 2: think they will. But to me, it's about this defense
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  Speaker 2: going from– Worst ever two years ago to, I think, realistically, Mac,
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  Speaker 2: in the top 10, top 12 discussion. And that in
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  Speaker 2: itself right there is reason for optimism and negativity. I
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  Speaker 2: think some people in their mind still think the defense
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  Speaker 2: is what it was two years ago because the D.C.
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  Speaker 3: Is the same. But I don't view that. I don't
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  Speaker 3: view it that way at all.
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  Speaker 1: Are you watching the games if you didn't think last
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: year's defense was way different than the year before? I
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  Speaker 1: just don't get it. And this dude says, we all
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  Speaker 1: can't be cheerleader homers like you, Mac. We'll lock in
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  Speaker 1: our final win prediction yesterday, but when I'm considering nine
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  Speaker 1: wins as my pick, and we won eight last year,
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  Speaker 1: I don't view that as some unreasonable cheerleader homer. We
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  Speaker 1: play in the NFC South. which is a bad division.
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  Speaker 1: If we were playing, you know, in the NFC West,
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be on here yapping.
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  Speaker 3: The same way.
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  Speaker 1: And I think you said the key thing about my,
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  Speaker 1: my vibes with the Panthers is we are on the
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  Speaker 1: come up. We have been getting better. Like I think
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  Speaker 1: some fans bone are holding us to some standard. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't really know what the standard is because what
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  Speaker 1: we have been bone is since the Rivera era, right,
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  Speaker 1: and since the last time we were in the playoffs
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  Speaker 1: to last year, has been an absolute train wreck, Bone,
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  Speaker 1: that was as dysfunctionally run as the Jets and the Browns.
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  Speaker 3: Like, let's just call it what it was.
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  Speaker 1: We had become, with the way Tep meddled and the
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  Speaker 1: way he had not kind of learned his lessons and
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  Speaker 1: the people that he had hired, like Fitterer and Rule
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  Speaker 1: and Reich, we had become, Bone, one of those armpit,
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  Speaker 1: franchises in the NFL, the way we were run. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't, so I don't understand some of y'all, the
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  Speaker 1: vibes I get from some texters, and maybe it's just
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  Speaker 1: people that just like being negative and like gaslighting us
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  Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff. But like the vibe
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  Speaker 1: I get from some of y'all is we are still
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  Speaker 1: like that. And I just want to acknowledge, we got
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  Speaker 1: Dan and Dave in charge. It feels like we've got
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  Speaker 1: Tepper kind of letting them do their thing. It feels
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  Speaker 1: like we're much better run and it feels like we've
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  Speaker 1: seen results on the field. Are we where we want
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  Speaker 1: to be? Eight wins and needing help to win the division?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: But I just don't understand the season starting and the
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  Speaker 1: sky is falling stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I don't get that.
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  Speaker 2: I think people also get consumed by what they think
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  Speaker 2: the schedule might be. And it's all we have to
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  Speaker 2: go on is based off last year. But, Matt, the schedule,
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  Speaker 2: I look at it for... I try to look at
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  Speaker 2: it kind of in the four-game stretches, especially to start
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  Speaker 2: the year, with injuries, with team regression, with teams that
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  Speaker 2: get better. Like, I can't see, yeah, that stretch there
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  Speaker 2: after the bye week, it looks really hard. But again,
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  Speaker 2: we have no idea who might be active for the
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  Speaker 2: other team, who might be out. I look at it
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  Speaker 2: as the first four games and go from there. I
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  Speaker 2: think some people look at the totality of the entire
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  Speaker 2: season and the strength of schedule differently. Like, it's going
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  Speaker 2: to remain the same all year when it never actually does.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes it gets tougher. Sometimes it doesn't. I've said this
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  Speaker 2: example all offseason. Last year, we looked at Seattle and thought, oh,
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  Speaker 2: Seattle comes in. We didn't realize how good Seattle was
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  Speaker 2: going to be. And then last year, we thought New
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  Speaker 2: Orleans would be a team that the Panthers beat.
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  Speaker 3: Lost to them twice.
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  Speaker 2: So we never know what's going to happen here last year.
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  Speaker 2: Like we do, but we really don't. I think everybody's
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  Speaker 2: listening to this.
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  Speaker 1: No, we don't know what the hell we're talking about,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm just talking about how you feel about this
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  Speaker 1: team as a Panther fan. Like I go into this
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  Speaker 1: season excited, but yes, concerned about some of the, some
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  Speaker 1: of the injuries concerned about some of the stuff I've
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  Speaker 1: seen from the offense. But I also don't come in
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  Speaker 1: here like gloom and doom. Like I'm a damn Browns fan.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, um, I could also say you don't
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  Speaker 1: come in here like a jet fan. Yeah, and that's
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  Speaker 1: who I used to feel like, one of those fan bases.
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  Speaker 1: Let's read some of these texts here. 704, I'll just
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: kind of pick them randomly, all right? 704, we play
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  Speaker 1: 17 of these games, be negative at the end of
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: the season. That's a point Fitty brought up yesterday. We
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  Speaker 1: claim to love football. We claim to, we can't wait
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  Speaker 1: for the season to start. Why would you be so
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  Speaker 1: negative and defeatist? before the season even starts, unless you're
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  Speaker 1: a fan of one of those hideous dregs. yeah um
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  Speaker 1: let's see here panther pickle says i'm one of those
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  Speaker 1: negative posters okay let's see here i'm one of those
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  Speaker 1: negative posters.
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  Speaker 3: Hold on. I can't even make sense of what he's
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  Speaker 3: saying here.
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  Speaker 1: One of those negative posters are stay behind haters from
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  Speaker 1: Rule who cut Cam to Tepper and Reich and a
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  Speaker 1: mistake trade up for Bright.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Mac, thanks for reading that one out loud.
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  Speaker 1: I can't follow that. I'm just trying to pick them
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  Speaker 1: randomly and read them. I know I sound like I'm
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  Speaker 1: hooked on phonics, but that don't make much sense to me.
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  Speaker 1: Does that make a lot of sense to you?
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  Speaker 3: I got it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to put this into Google AI and see
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  Speaker 2: if they can spit out what this means. By the way,
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: Panther Pickle fronted off a fight with Flounder yesterday. I
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  Speaker 2: think he's worn out.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I can't just pick these out randomly. I
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: guess they need to be proofread ahead of time. I'm
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  Speaker 1: putting this into Panther Pickle translator mode here. Let's see here.
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  Speaker 1: Anthony says, I don't think it's Anthony that argues on Twitter.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's our Anthony. My genuine optimism for
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: this season is eight wins, but probably in the six range.
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  Speaker 1: The defense is going to be much better. I have
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: little faith in the offense for a few reasons, and
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  Speaker 1: then he goes on. But if the defense is much better,
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: and the offense last year, Bone, ranked what, like 29, 28,
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  Speaker 1: 27th in the league, something like that, and our defense
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  Speaker 1: gets much better, maybe we're not from eight wins down
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  Speaker 1: to six wins.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: That's my whole point, is if the offense makes a
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  Speaker 1: little jump, the defense makes a jump, why can't we
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  Speaker 1: win nine games in still a stinky division like the
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  Speaker 1: NFC South? That's my whole point. I'm not on here
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  Speaker 1: claiming anything big. AI cleaned up their pickles tags.
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  Speaker 3: You ready for this?
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  Speaker 2: Your skepticism is 100% warranted. When you trace the timeline,
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: it is an absolute masterclass at organizational dysfunction. You don't
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  Speaker 2: have to apologize or be a negative when the receipts
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  Speaker 2: look like this.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 1: Pickle loves that response. What if we had this for
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: MFG back in the day? We needed this whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: But what does all that old crap... I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to argue with pickle and AI here.
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  Speaker 1: What, what does all that old crap have to do
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  Speaker 1: with the current regime?
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  Speaker 3: Nothing.
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  Speaker 1: So I guess as I was struggling hooked on phonics
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  Speaker 1: style to read that text, like what does any of that?
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  Speaker 3: I get it, bro. We lived it. You're not the
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  Speaker 3: only one pickled. I lived it, bro. We all lived
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  Speaker 3: the horrendous, pathetic early Tepper years. We did.
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  Speaker 1: But like, have you not noticed things have gotten better
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  Speaker 1: around here? I can't with people. I can't with the
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: woe is me crowd. I just can't, man.
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  Speaker 2: Panther Pickle fought flounder yesterday for being a Giants fan
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  Speaker 2: and how radio should be positive. Today, the first thing
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: he says is, I'm one of the negative posters. So
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: you're wanting, I'm pickled out right now. I'm completely pickled out. Three, three,
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: six says it's called a happiness hedge. The bad years
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: crushed the blind optimism. We have to see it to
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  Speaker 2: believe it, but they have improved each of the last
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  Speaker 2: two seasons.
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  Speaker 3: They're headed in the right direction.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, this texter says, uh, seven Oh four says Mac, um, uh,
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  Speaker 1: whoopty doo. Win one more game, win the NFC South.
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  Speaker 1: We still have a so-so quarterback who is not going
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  Speaker 1: to take us to the promised land.
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  Speaker 3: See, that's another thing too.
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  Speaker 1: Are people trying to hit the fast forward button and
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: like click your heels together and a Lombardi appears? Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Because that's not how this rebuild is being done. This
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: is a rebuild that's being done in a fairly methodical way.
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: Where Dan Morgan-Bone attacks the needs. A couple off-seasons ago,
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: it was offensive line, defensive line this off-season. He will
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: go defense this off-season in front seven. It's a methodical build.
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  Speaker 6: It's almost like a baseball rebuild, where it's going to
• 13:49
  Speaker 6: take three to five years for them to get the roster, Mac,
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  Speaker 6: where it needs to be to put this organization in
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  Speaker 6: a position to have sustained success for the long term.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Something that they've never had.
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  Speaker 6: And I can get that frustration.
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  Speaker 3: I can get that. But what's the frustration, though? Just
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  Speaker 3: because it's.
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  Speaker 6: Been 30 years and you've never had back-to-back winning years,
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  Speaker 6: here's where they lose me, Mac.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm about to come to the defense of you.
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  Speaker 6: Because this dude called you a coward and said that
• 14:17
  Speaker 6: all you're doing is just trying to protect Bryce. Do
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  Speaker 6: they really think that if we go through this season
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  Speaker 6: and it becomes clear that That they have a quarterback issue.
• 14:29
  Speaker 6: That you won't voice your concern and you would not voice, hey,
• 14:34
  Speaker 6: we've got to go upgrade this position. Because I feel like, Mac,
• 14:37
  Speaker 6: if it becomes very clear... then you'll say that.
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  Speaker 3: Why thank you, Fitty. Why thank you. Like, here's the
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: thing too.
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  Speaker 6: How are you rooting against your quarterback entering the season?
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  Speaker 1: Some guy earlier talked about the glazing of Bryce Young
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: on this show. I say regularly, I think Bryce Young
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  Speaker 1: is about the 20th best quarterback in the league and
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: he's got to get better. And I say regularly that
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: Bryce Young does not deserve a contract extension yet, that
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: the team is right to say, prove it to me.
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  Speaker 1: take another step. Show me you've got another jump in
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  Speaker 1: your game. You've jumped each of the last two years,
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: make another jump. I don't understand how that's glazing. And I, listen,
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: I speak teenage bro because I got Mac Jr.
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: At the house.
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  Speaker 1: So I've heard this term, Bone, for years now. I
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: don't feel like it's glazing to say what I say
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: about Bryce Young. But what I do, what I do
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  Speaker 1: think happens is we get things like Bryce Young sucks,
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Bryce Young's horrible.
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  Speaker 3: That's disingenuous. That's not true.
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  Speaker 1: We wouldn't have had those six game winning drives last year. Bone,
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: we would we would have gotten blown out by the
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Rams if he was horrible. We would not have been
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs if he was horrible. So I just
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: I feel like what I'm saying is accurate and measured.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: And I feel like the people that are exaggerating and not.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: telling the true story are the people that act like
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: he's horrible.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: I think some people's opinions sometimes get conflicted because they'll
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: tell you they don't like bryce but then they'll get
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: mad at ownership if it's called a rebuild again which
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: when you get another quarterback in here if you drafted one,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: which some people think the next draft class, writers, that
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: that would be where they have to go, then they
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: would get mad and say, we've been rebuilding for so
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: many years, but yet they don't like the quarterback now
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: that helped get them to the playoffs. Either way, it
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: just feels like there are some people, Mac, that no
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: matter what it is, that their path is going to
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: be of that negative side.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: That's just the way it's.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Going to be. Yeah, and listen, I've said this a bunch.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: There very well could be a time, maybe it's next offseason,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: maybe it's not, where... Dan Morgan and Dave Kanellis look
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: at each other in the office and say, this roster
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: is pretty damn good.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: The quarterback spot's got to be better.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: We've talked about that a bunch that day could happen
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: where they got to make a big move there at
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: that spot. But I don't think it needs to happen
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: right now. I think we've got to see, does the
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: team make another jump and does Bryce make another.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: Jump and then evaluate it in the off season? I
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: think that's fair, man. But this thing is headed in
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: a positive trajectory.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: It might not be rocket ship style to the moon
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: might not be, you know, um, uh, Apollo. Happening as
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: fast as you want it to. But as long as
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: we're seeing progress, I don't feel the need to be
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: a miserable lout of a fan.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: No.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: When Mac goes loud, people have fought for less. Wars
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: have been fought for less. They call people loud. When
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: we come back here on the Mac and Bone Show,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: random crap college football edition.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Lane gives in to the SEC.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: A Georgia Southern player is going after Clemson, and plenty
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: of bros are shooting their shot with the viral Ole
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Miss fan. We'll talk about that and more. Sports Radio
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: 92.7 WFNZ. Random crap, random crap. Mac and Bone talk
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: random crap. Random crap. Random crap. Mac and Bone talk
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: random crap. Random, random crap. Random crap. Random crap.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: What the deuce? Oh, crap.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, crap.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: We stink like a baby's blowout infested diaper.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: They talk about crap that is random. It's the Queen
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: City's favorite born in tandem.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Mac and Bone. Random crap. Mac and Bone.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: All right, y'all, let's do it. It's the Random Crap
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: segment with a twist here, Bone. It is the college
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: football edition of Random Crap. There is so much stuff
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: going on, some of it headline-worthy, and some of it
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: is just kind of, you know, the fun, random world
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: of college football stories. So let's start with the biggest headline.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Late last night, Pete Thamel reported this on ESPN, that
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: after all.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: The hubbub, Bone.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: LSU will not put Harris and Wright on the roster.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: They are the two players bone that played for Lane
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Kiffin at Ole Miss that had been in NFL training
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: camps that Lane was trying to sign that created all
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: of this mess. They're not even putting them on the
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: final roster. They have actually rostered two players bone who
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: were holders from last year and And I guess they
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: were basically hanging chads. They were hanging in the balance.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Whereas if they add the two NFL guys, they lose
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: their roster spot. One of many things I didn't like
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: about the move is that kids get kicked off the team.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: They're not going to do it after all.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: And I have a feeling, Bone, that might have something
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: to do with the SEC's lawsuit against LSU and the
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: amended filing yesterday. and the fact that in that amended
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: filing in the federal court yesterday, it said that Thursday
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: is a scheduled meeting to vote on whether or not
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: to expel LSU from the SEC.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Am I wrong, Mac, to think that we need to
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: investigate the two players that got added to LSU? Gabriel
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Relaford and quarterback Aiden Anding. Are we sure that's not
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Daquan Wright and Zayden Harris? Is that the next move here?
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: He added two players that are just aliases for his guys?
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: That right there would be a chess move from Mike
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Giffen that I would probably respect it if he did that.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: It's those two players in Chad Powers-like disguise.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: The threat of getting kicked out of the conference, which
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: was going to be voted on Thursday, seemed to wound.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Large here, Mac.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Does that still... Is that still on the table? Ross
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Dellinger had a piece up last night about can LSU
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: get kicked out and UNC and Virginia and Clemson, the
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: teams that would replace them, but we were trying to
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: figure out was that pre-news.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Of this or is that still on the table?
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: I would think this would stop the SEC wanting to
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: kick LSU out. I would think everybody would be chill
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: now because this is what it was all about. It
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: was all about the persistence of LSU and their administration,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: not just Lane, still wanting to do this despite every
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: other member protesting and having an issue with it. Power conference,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: not wanting teams to do this.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: I would think this would chill it out.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I compare it to, I guess I don't know for sure,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: but I would compare it to the Texas Tech situation.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Remember the way they bowed up, filed a lawsuit, or
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: the Big 12 filed a lawsuit against Texas Tech over
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: the Sorsby thing, and once Texas Tech and Sorsby, once
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: they backed off with that?
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Everything's cool again. Everything's chill again, baby. You know? I
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: feel like they'll be singing Kumbaya in no time.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Why would the SEC want out Wayne Mulkey and Will Wade?
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: They should want to be part of a family with them,
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: not kick them out. Do you think they want to
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: kick out 51-10?
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: They at least want to wait until the end of
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: the season and see if they finally win a title
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: thanks to Lane Kiffin.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: So anyway, my.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Guess would be it ends between the SEC and Lane.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: And if it does, by the way, Lane and LSU blinked.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Like Sankey won. You know what I mean?
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Lane bent the knee, you know?
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Or at least LSU's administration told Lane, sorry, we can't
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: do this.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Boy, this just was a master ruse by Lane the
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: whole time, right? I mean, that could also be.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Part of this. You don't think he really wanted to
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: add those players?
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: I think he did, but along the way, he might
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: have said, I'm going to take this as far as
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: it can go, no matter how ridiculous this is.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Because he loves the attention, loves the publicity. He just
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: loves it. He loves being the bad dude. He loves it.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden, magically, mysteriously, the locker room
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: speech gets leaked out where all of a sudden Lane
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: plays a hero to the players. And when does that
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: come in favor? Portal time, recruiting time. Oh, I want
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: to play for this guy because he's got his players back. Yeah,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: us against the world, baby. Yeah, he loves that stuff.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: He does.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: It's also possible— Not trying to be a gotcha guy there, Lane,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: but come on. Gotcha, gotcha guy. It's also possible— Boom, boom!
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: It's also possible, Bone, that his bosses watched the game
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: and said, Lane— You don't need those damn players.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Like, seriously, did it look like they needed those two guys, Bone?
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: No.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Trades Green looks pretty good at tight end, and those
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: guys up front on the D-line look pretty good. All right,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: let's continue with random crap. How about the— let' s stay in
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the SEC, Bone. Georgia fans are furious at the Georgia
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: football program because they went after the game on Saturday, Bone,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: their blowout win over Tennessee State, and they went online—
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: to the georgia official website and tried to watch the
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: highlights package which includes all the highlights of 60 something
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: points and all the behind the scenes stuff like in
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: the locker room like stuff like that and they found
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: a message saying that you now have to pay a
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: subscription of 20 in order to access the game highlights
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: after each game and that that money will go towards
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: nil for the georgia players it's you know these schools
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: are all looking for ways now they have this added
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: expense you know paying players they're looking for ways to
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: create extra revenue you see all the sponsorship patches on
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: jerseys and sponsorships on the field but the fans are
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: not happy about this at all bonesy.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Uh i know it said nil that's where the money
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: goes and oh by the way twenty dollars to watch
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: tennessee state highlight 21 by 60 that's That's a level
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: of desperation for football that is not often seen.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: I heard it's going back to.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Traffic and speeding fines.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: That's actually where they need money to pay off all these.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: They have 243 speeding tickets to pay off. They figured
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: out this is the way to do it.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I feel like that Georgia fans would be more, you
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, with.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: I feel like they would like that idea better. That's hilarious.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: So anyway.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: That's what Steve Spurrier, this is why we miss a
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: guy like Spurrier. He'd say, well, they got to go
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: pay them traffic fines.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: I'm out.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Can't do it on your own when you got 150
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: of them. That is amazing. Bone, are you familiar with
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Sarah Smith? Sarah Smith. Was she the.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: She's the ESPN personality based out of Chicago, right? That
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: is incorrect. Sarah Spain. That is incorrect. Sarah Smith, no.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Very generic name, though. Go ahead.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Sarah Smith is the lovely blonde Ole Miss fan who
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: was shown on a crowd shot on Sunday night and
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: went viral. These are the things that wouldn't happen in
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: the old Brent Musburger horndog days. It's it's it's so
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: easy now to find these random attractive female fans. So
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: a bunch of people found out who she is and
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: started shooting their shots in the form of DMs. And
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: she did a hilarious video where she showed everybody all
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: these different DMs she was getting. She was being promised
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: like a new car. She was being like asked if
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: she wants to go on a tropical vacation. It is amazing, Bone,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: how thirsty and bold dudes get with social media over
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: a fan they see on the TV.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: I have one right here, Matt. Can I read it
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: off to you right there? Sup, girl? That was from
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Flounder Pagnano. Ha, ha, ha. You think Flounder's already followed
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: her on Instagram?
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Flounder may have. I'm not even joking, Finny. Flounder may
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: have known who that was before they showed her on TV.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Also, there's two South Carolina.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: We had a TV anchor that got hired here, and
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: I said, oh, Flounder's going to follow her on Instagram.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: He followed her. before she got hired in charlotte he
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: said no i've.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Been following her for years he's got a talent he's
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: got an intuition you know what i mean fitty like
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: he's got an instinct for the ig game.
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: Are you saying you don't follow broadcasters from around the
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: country because i support the industry i've got some broadcasters
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: in texas that i follow in tennessee that i follow
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: Very familiar with their work.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: You are a committed man right now. You can't say
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: those things anymore. Yeah, you better settle down there. I
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: was talking about Will Kunkel. Settle down over there, big fella.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: He's talking about male. Will Kunkel is his only male follow.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Let's not get it twisted.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, there were two South Carolina co-eds, Bone, that went
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: viral on a video that was like they were playing.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: I.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Forget.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: What is a song that South Carolina plays... Sandstorm? Was
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: it Sandstorm?
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: I think it was Sandstorm. Yeah, I think Sandstorm's playing.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: And the bros are tarps off, which is the trend.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: That has to be a Sandstorm. Which is the trend
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: of the young bros, shirts off, all in unison, waving
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: their shirt in the air. That would be not the
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Space Odyssey theme. That would be the Sandstorm. It was Sandstorm, definitely.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: And it was South Carolina, a couple of co-eds asking,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: it's no fair. Why can't we participate in this fun event? Oh,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: so I'm sure guys are have found their identities on
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: social media as well. We've got to play the audio.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Do we know the name of the Georgia Southern player
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: who's calling out Clemson?
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was it. I had it right here, Mac.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: It is. Let me double check here. It is.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, man, my internet here over here. Gosh, dang it.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: All right, let's do it. Let's play the clip. And
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: then we'll identify them. This is a press conference at
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Georgia Southern. They're playing Clemson this weekend. This is a
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: real thing, Bone, that a Georgia Southern player answered about Clemson.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: Game against LSU. Did you think that Clemson is vulnerable
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: right now? Like this is a team that, hey, like
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: we can beat these guys. If we go out and execute,
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: this is a game they would. you know, that we
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: can win.
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: Oh, for sure. I don't like jumping the gun, but
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: once I've seen some of the things I've seen, I was,
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: you know, smiling, pretty happy about our odds going into
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: this game this week. And just, yeah, really happy and
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: pumped up for being ready to execute and go handle
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: our business.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Aaron Sears.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, defensive back Aaron Sears. He's smiling and pretty happy
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: about our odds. Georgia Southern player talking about Clemson.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Oh, my gracious. Is he just a gotcha guy, though, maybe?
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: This is where we landed back in college. We're only
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: in week two, by the way. Georgia Southern does have
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: a huge win. They beat the Gators in 2013. They
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: attempted no passes in the game.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: That's where the Florida players blocked each other infamously in
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: that game.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: If Clemson loses to Georgia Southern, hide Chapel Fowler.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I think Dabo's already tied him up in a broom closet.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: He wants to keep him there until all 12 games
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: are played, and then he'll pull him out of the
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: broom closet. Clemson is going to beat the Brakes. of
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Georgia Southern. I don't know how to break this to
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Aaron Sears. I am sorry to have to break this
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: to you. There goes that idea.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Or did I just Matt curse Clemson? Oh, no.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: All right, Mac. We come back here on the radio program.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: We talk about the Panthers' slow start historically. How bad
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: are they out of the gate, or how bad have
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: they been? Why is this happening? Can they change that
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: starting on Sunday? Panther Talk, Sports Radio.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: 92.7 WFNZ.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. Mack and Bone with you. I
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: thought Willie P was coming on here, to be honest
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: with you. I just realized that pesky segment, Bone, about
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: how bad the Panthers have been in season openers.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: That pesky segment is just sitting there. You know about
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: all that?
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Someone needs to rescue our fescue and the pandas in
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: week one. A little plug there for you, Matt. I
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: like it. I like it, baby.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that whole segment we did at 8 o'clock about, hey,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I think some of y'all are just way too negative.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: This ain't going to help matters, Bone. Because this is,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I feel like, a reason of week one consternation. I
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: do want to mention this, too. I made a comment
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: that Clemson will blow out Georgia Southern and this guy
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Aaron Sears. People will make a mockery out of him.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: The text line, by the way, a bunch of y'all
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: saying Georgia Southern can win this game. Husker Mike, by
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: the way, nice of him to volunteer this information. Georgia
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Southern beat them, too. He said that was the game
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: that got Scott Frost fired. I remember that. 45-42, the 2022.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: Is that... Is this... What are they, a 20-point favor,
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: you said? 20 and a half.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Is there drama in this one? I have to think
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Clemson comes out and plays with their hair on fire.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Their head coach back, a former.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Coach at a major program, Clay Helton's the head coach
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: at Georgia Southern.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know that. Didn't know that.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: All right, let's– Way to go, Mac. Anyway, we'll talk–
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Mac just got dabble fired, didn't he? I may still–
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: You're a gotcha guy, aren't you, Mac? I still may
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: guarantee it, all right, for Clemson. I still may guarantee it.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: But I'm just pointing out, many of you seem to
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: be on the Georgia Southern side of things. Jack just
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: took Georgia Southern into points after I said that.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: It's the Mac opposite play. I mean, you can live
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: in a mansion for playing the opposite picks of me.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Which brings us to what to expect from this offense
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: on Sunday, Bone. The Carolina Panthers, let's just start this off.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: They are historically the worst team in Week 1 games
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: in the history of of the National Football League. 36%
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: win percentage. So maybe, Bone, that is part of why
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: people are negative. They feel like we're losing because we
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: usually lose on week one.
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  Speaker 2: Not only do we lose, the last three have been
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: just BTA situations.
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  Speaker 1: Big time, big time. Now that we've lost four in
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: a row, it's been since 2021. that we won an opener.
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  Speaker 1: Like you said, Bone, they have been significant margins of
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  Speaker 1: victory in.
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  Speaker 3: The last three.
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  Speaker 1: And in the last three, the three openers Bryce played in,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: we scored exactly 10 points. What did they get called yesterday?
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  Speaker 1: Week one NFL Clemson is what I believe they got
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  Speaker 1: called yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: The 16-point loss, 37-point loss, 14-point loss. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Jacksonville, New Orleans, Atlanta, and then Cleveland was a close
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  Speaker 2: loss in 2022.
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  Speaker 1: A Baker-Mayfield game, right? That's the one where they kept
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: batting the ball back in his grill.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: We have been— and by the way, look at those opponents.
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  Speaker 1: Jacksonville was a 13-win team last year, but the Falcons,
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  Speaker 1: the Saints— It's not exactly like we dialing up the
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: cream of the crop in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: And that Atlanta game was when Jesse Bates picked off
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Bryce twice in his first game, right?
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  Speaker 3: It was. It was. So allow me now to worry, Bo.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to take it to beboppy and levels here,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: but allow me to talk about this offense. And then
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: this is where I think this is where people get,
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  Speaker 1: I think, get worried about week one is the way
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  Speaker 1: the preseason went.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And the joint practice and the tackle injuries combined with
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: this recent history. I mean, you know, Dave Canales and
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: company have been here for two years. They average 10
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  Speaker 1: points a game. They've scored 10 points game in those
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  Speaker 1: two games. How much do you worry about that as
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: part of your analysis of this game, Bo, this week?
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  Speaker 2: It certainly is a concern because they didn't look right.
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  Speaker 2: to start the year in the games and moments that
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: didn't count. So until, Matt, they show me when it's
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: live that they're ready to go when the season starts,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: the history says it's not been good. So, yes, I
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: do think it very much is a concern. Also, Matt, Bryce,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: 4.4 yards per attempt last year against Jacksonville. 5.4 against
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: New Orleans. So not only has it been 10 points,
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  Speaker 2: it hasn't even really been very much of anything that's
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: down the field. That is something that not only do
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: we have to see it to start the season or
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: within the season, can we maybe start out by looking
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: a little more explosive and not so playing it close?
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: Look at these stats. Or trying to play it close
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  Speaker 3: and not turn it over?
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  Speaker 1: Well, the thing is, though, you don't want to turn
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: it over because that's been his biggest issue. Listen to
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: these stats, Bone, from Bryce in his three openers.
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  Speaker 3: And again, I.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Realize right now all I'm doing is feeding the trolls.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: All I'm doing is giving y'all y'all going to eat
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: that up and just vomit it all over me in
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: the form of a text.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: I understand that right now. That was a hearty, hearty,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: hearty chew there.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to go from... That's what you're going to
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: do of all this stuff. But I'm being real about
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: it as a Panther fan. We can have real conversations.
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  Speaker 1: We just shouldn't act like we're going to go 0-17. Bryce,
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  Speaker 1: 10 points each game.
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  Speaker 6: 0-3.
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  Speaker 3: 49% completions.
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  Speaker 1: 461 pass yards in three games, two passing touchdowns and
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: six interceptions, including two interceptions in each game. So protect
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: the football and the Bears feast off turnovers. Protect the
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: dang football, Bryce.
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  Speaker 2: The last two specifically is passer rating against Jacksonville, 49.
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  Speaker 2: And that blowout to New Orleans was 32.8. So just
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  Speaker 2: in those two alone, the last one, rookie year, first start,
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: but the last two, when he's had more experience, have
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: been just absolute woeful.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: He's just, listen, this team has been slow starters, and
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: he has been a slow starter. Like the games that,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: the good stretches, Bone, of Bryce that I reference are
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: the last 10 games of 2024 and the last eight
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: games of last season.
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  Speaker 2: Right? Yes.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of season that gets played. And this
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: is where, you know, the Bryce skepticism comes in again.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: I get Bryce skepticism. I get wanting to be more
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: consistent and to start quicker. I don't get when y'all
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: act like he's the worst quarterback in the history of
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: the NFL that I don't get, but I do get
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: the skepticism. He needs to start better. And it's not
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: just him. It's past protection. It's the offense in general. Um,
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  Speaker 1: And Dave Canales has struggled, Bone, to get this offense
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  Speaker 1: ready to play in week one. And I feel, here's
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: the thing, I feel like you've got to score some
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: points to beat the Bears. Our defense has improved, but
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're completely shutting Chicago's offense down.
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  Speaker 2: You know? Like, what's the minimum you think, Matt, the
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: defense can hold the Bears to? Because that may be
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: important in this game.
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  Speaker 3: What is.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: The minimum, even if the Panthers play well, you would
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: think the Bears can crack the 20-point mark, right?
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: 20-24.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: And that's on a low end, I think. It's not
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: about the Panthers' defense being bad. It's about Ben Johnson's offense.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: And also, Ben Johnson has a lot of time to
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: prepare for this game as well. So who knows what
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: he may have in store for this game. If it's
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: week one here, he'll be more than ready in this game.
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  Speaker 1: Plus, he's all told us the goal is to score
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: the most points in NFL history. I'm sure this could
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: be that easy.
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  Speaker 3: Hopefully not in a game.
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at the Bears' results last year. Against the Ravens,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: they scored 16. That was their season. Well, the Lions,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: they scored 16. Playoff game against the Rams, 17. And
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: then there was a 19 in there against the Vikings.
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  Speaker 1: So it looks like, I don't know, only four times
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  Speaker 1: under 20 points. I think if you hold them to 20,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: 23 points, I think you give yourself a chance to
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: win because their defense is so extremely flawed, especially if
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: you don't give them turnovers. But is our offense up
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: to the challenge? We did not look like a well-oiled
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: machine in the preseason.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: If they get to the high 20s or low 30s,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: that's going to be hard, I think, for the Panthers
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: to win. slow-starting offense to have that many points. So
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: can the defense hold them to that number you're talking about?
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: By the way, Mac, a 9-8-0 number says, why does
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Mac chew like his mother-in-law?
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Hey! Like your mother-in-law, sir. Don't you dare. That's what
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: he said. He's saying, why does Mac chew like his mother-in-law,
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: not yours?
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: His?
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm saying.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: Not you.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: Don't get me in trouble. I can get myself in
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: trouble with my mother-in-law and my wife-in-law. It was the
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: 9-8-0's mother-in-law that chews like you.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: There you go. If that's the case, sir, well played.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: And we will keep your identity protected.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: We will keep you strictly as a 9-8-0 man. 704 number.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: This is the funniest hour in Mac and Bone history.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: First segment.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Mac gets... so emotional. I think he's going to.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Cry because we as Panther fans are skeptical. By the
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: end of the hour, Mac telling us why our offense
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: is going to be garbage on Sunday. I'm not telling
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: you why it's going to be garbage on Sunday. I'm
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: just telling you, we've got to buck the trends. We've
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: got to somehow find a way to be better than
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: we have been recently.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Would you like to leave on a positive note, Matt,
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: this hour? Yeah, what you got? We have a tweet
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: from Jumpin' Joe Person. Oh, whoa.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Ten minutes ago, Panthers are one of five teams to
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: projected win total increased by a game over the past
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: six months by a bet online. The sportsbook now is
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: all four NFC South teams over under at seven and
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: a half.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: There you go, baby. How about that? Rawr, rawr, rawr.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Why not us? Add some optimism.
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: Why not us?
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: So the betters. How the Falcons still have seven and
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: a half, by the way?
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: The betters, that's crazy. Seriously, take that under and put
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: your kids through school. The betters were betting on the
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Panthers this offseason more than they weren't.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: How about that? So there you go. Take that, baby.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: Finger guns right at you. Gotcha. Gotcha, guy.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: By the way, we never told the story, Bone, about,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: and I got to do it real quick because it's
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Willie P's world and we're all living in it. And
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: he will come on and let us know that we
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: relate to him. So we got to go quick. How
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: about Charlotte Ledger showing us a photo of a Bojangles
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: late night ad where XL was on a horse in
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: a Bojangles commercial. You called it. It definitely has to
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: be him at the drive-thru on the horse, right?
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I got my biscuits in the front, my horse
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: in the back. I cannot wait to see it. Now,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: I also, Bone, hope before this thing airs that he
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: actually produces on the field. That'll make it a little
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: better to watch. Next hour, the man, the myth, the legend,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Jeff Collins joins us at 925. But before that, Willie
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: P in Willie's World Talks, Panthers, FC, and more. Willie
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: P next on Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.