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- 0:04Speaker 1: My philosophy on life.
- 0:06Speaker 2: You should just be yourself and make the best of
- 0:08Speaker 2: everything and smile.
- 0:11Speaker 3: What did I do all the time I met Helene
- 0:15Speaker 3: in the nineteen seventies. She was always smiling, always smiling.
- 0:21Speaker 3: Her laughter was unique. It was just this, like a
- 0:25Speaker 3: little songbird of laughter. I can still hear Helene's voice,
- 0:32Speaker 3: I can still feel her presence. And that's why I
- 0:37Speaker 3: made a promise to her parents that I would not
- 0:41Speaker 3: rest until we found out who, why, how, and get
- 0:47Speaker 3: the answers for them. And I made a promise to
- 0:51Speaker 3: her because it shattered all of us.
- 1:24Speaker 4: On a cold color other morning, a woman drives through
- 1:28Speaker 4: Daniels Park.
- 1:30Speaker 5: She was a forcer parent and she had several kids
- 1:33Speaker 5: in the car. Daniels Park was wide open planes back then,
- 1:37Speaker 5: so it's not a common to just be staring out
- 1:40Speaker 5: the window as you're driving down, looking at the mountains,
- 1:42Speaker 5: looking out sometimes wildlife. And she looked out and appeared
- 1:47Speaker 5: to be a female body in the fields. She kept
- 1:50Speaker 5: driving and she saw a road worker pulled over and
- 1:53Speaker 5: told him what she saw, and he decided to, you know,
- 1:56Speaker 5: get out of there and call the law enforcement.
- 1:59Speaker 6: Douglas County officers did arrive the investigators found a younger female,
- 2:05Speaker 6: probably at that point late teens early twenties, lying on
- 2:11Speaker 6: her back.
- 2:12Speaker 4: Douglas County Deputies called in the Colorado Bureau of Investigation
- 2:17Speaker 4: to help process the disturbing scene.
- 2:22Speaker 6: She was nude from the waist down, but wearing socks.
- 2:27Speaker 6: Those are strong indicators that this is in a sex
- 2:31Speaker 6: assault murder. It appeared that she had some kind of
- 2:37Speaker 6: gag around her face and mouth, and it looked like
- 2:40Speaker 6: her hands were bound behind her back. When they rolled
- 2:45Speaker 6: her body over, it was clear that she had been
- 2:48Speaker 6: stabbed numerous times.
- 2:52Speaker 5: It was dark and wet where she had been bleeding
- 2:56Speaker 5: into the ground, so they knew that this is probably
- 2:58Speaker 5: where she was killed. Since there was so much loved there.
- 3:01Speaker 6: You can't get a scene that has more tragedy in it.
- 3:06Speaker 2: No one knew who this individual was.
- 3:08Speaker 6: Law enforcement was really at that point just starting from scratch,
- 3:12Speaker 6: Who is this in the field, how did she get here, and.
- 3:16Speaker 2: What happened to her?
- 3:19Speaker 4: Investigators scoured the area looking for evidence.
- 3:25Speaker 6: Although crime scenes outside are very complicated and difficult, they
- 3:29Speaker 6: can also be law enforcement's friends, and in this case,
- 3:32Speaker 6: investigators at the time were able to have good tire
- 3:35Speaker 6: impressions and shoe impressions of the suspect. Because it was
- 3:40Speaker 6: frozen into the ground.
- 3:44Speaker 5: You could see that there are two sets of footprints
- 3:45Speaker 5: going in and only one set coming out, and they
- 3:49Speaker 5: looked like they were like a boot, like a cowboy boot.
- 3:54Speaker 5: So we now know that the crime scene occurred here
- 3:58Speaker 5: because this person is walking, not being carried in, and
- 4:01Speaker 5: just dropped.
- 4:03Speaker 4: Hoping to identify the victim. Douglas County Deputies reach out
- 4:07Speaker 4: to police in neighboring towns to see if anyone is
- 4:11Speaker 4: looking for a missing woman. They don't have to wait
- 4:15Speaker 4: long for an answer. Police in nearby Englewood say a
- 4:20Speaker 4: twenty one year old woman was reported missing the night before.
- 4:25Speaker 6: The Inglewood Police department had taken a missing person's report
- 4:29Speaker 6: on January sixteenth, person that they took a report on
- 4:33Speaker 6: bis Helene Presenski.
- 4:41Speaker 1: Philosophy on life?
- 4:42Speaker 2: Your philosophy on life?
- 4:43Speaker 7: Yeah, I have one.
- 4:44Speaker 5: You should just.
- 4:47Speaker 2: Be yourself and make the best of everything.
- 4:50Speaker 1: Smile, smile, Yeah, what did I do all the time?
- 4:55Speaker 8: I first met Helene freshman year in high school. We
- 5:00Speaker 8: study hall and I met her there there was a
- 5:04Speaker 8: group of girls that all had the same schedule and
- 5:07Speaker 8: we all made a quick close connection.
- 5:12Speaker 4: Helene went to high school in Hamilton, Massachusetts, a small
- 5:16Speaker 4: town north of Boston.
- 5:19Speaker 8: She very much wanted to be part of the school
- 5:23Speaker 8: and part of different organizations. Very much into drama, very
- 5:28Speaker 8: much into the school spirit. She was into poetry, she
- 5:33Speaker 8: was into singing. She had a beautiful voice.
- 5:36Speaker 5: What certain things do you do well?
- 5:39Speaker 3: I'm involved with a harmony, a musical group at the regional.
- 5:45Speaker 9: They were a show choir before show choirs were the
- 5:50Speaker 9: thing that they are right now. And Helene was a
- 5:54Speaker 9: natural because she had this way of smiling when she sang,
- 6:03Speaker 9: and she brought her personality to the songs. She was
- 6:09Speaker 9: the youngest of three children, and her mom and dad,
- 6:13Speaker 9: especially her dad, always called her baby.
- 6:18Speaker 3: She was in cheerleading, she was the editor of the
- 6:21Speaker 3: school newspaper. She was on the honor roll, she was
- 6:25Speaker 3: in the homecoming court. She just did it all.
- 6:29Speaker 4: Helene graduated high school and then left home for Wheaton
- 6:33Speaker 4: College in Massachusetts, where she studied journalism. As a college senior.
- 6:38Speaker 4: In nineteen seventy nine, she picked up and moved again,
- 6:42Speaker 4: this time to Colorado, where she interned at a radio station.
- 6:47Speaker 10: You couldn't ask for much more out of an intern.
- 6:50Speaker 10: She was spot on everything that she did. I'd be
- 6:53Speaker 10: in the anchor booth getting ready to do a newscast
- 6:57Speaker 10: and the bulletin would come across, and she'd always rabbit
- 7:00Speaker 10: and slip it to me. She was really not like
- 7:03Speaker 10: an intern. She was more like a regular professional journalist.
- 7:08Speaker 1: I was so impressed with her from day one because
- 7:12Speaker 1: at the end of each shift she would call me
- 7:15Speaker 1: on the two way and say, how can I do
- 7:17Speaker 1: this better? She was a hard worker. She wanted to
- 7:21Speaker 1: do her job right and worked very hard to accomplish that.
- 7:33Speaker 10: It was a cold day and it looked like it
- 7:35Speaker 10: was going to snow. Eleen came in the news booth
- 7:38Speaker 10: and said, it's starting to snow outside, and I'm a
- 7:41Speaker 10: little concerned about my bus ride home. And she said,
- 7:45Speaker 10: could I leave a little bit early if I need to?
- 7:47Speaker 10: I said, if you'll wait fifteen minutes, I'll give you
- 7:50Speaker 10: a ride home. I said, I'd feel a lot better
- 7:52Speaker 10: if you let me take you home. She thought about
- 7:55Speaker 10: it for a minute and she said, now I think
- 7:57Speaker 10: I'll just ride the bus left. I left the station
- 8:02Speaker 10: that night to go home, which was about six fifteen.
- 8:07Speaker 10: The phone rang about eight thirty or nine o'clock, and
- 8:11Speaker 10: it was Helene's aunt and she said, Helene has not
- 8:15Speaker 10: come home yet. Do you know if she went at
- 8:18Speaker 10: someplace that I'm not aware of? And I said no.
- 8:21Speaker 10: She left the station right around six o'clock, said she
- 8:25Speaker 10: was going to catch the bus and go straight home.
- 8:31Speaker 6: She knew something was wrong, and she called the Inglewood
- 8:34Speaker 6: Police Department and reported Helen missing. The Inglewood Police Department,
- 8:38Speaker 6: you know, searched the area of the bus stop that
- 8:41Speaker 6: she was dropped off at, as well as where she
- 8:45Speaker 6: would have been picked up at, and then kind of
- 8:47Speaker 6: the route between those two the general area a you know,
- 8:52Speaker 6: contacted businesses.
- 8:53Speaker 2: In the area.
- 8:54Speaker 6: Did they see anyone that looked like, you know, a
- 8:57Speaker 6: twenty one year old young lady, you know, walking They
- 9:00Speaker 6: knew the route that she walked, did anyone see her?
- 9:06Speaker 4: The police aren't the only ones looking for Helene. Who worried,
- 9:09Speaker 4: radio station colleagues begin a search of their own.
- 9:15Speaker 10: We decided we'd go down near her aunt and uncle's
- 9:17Speaker 10: house and we drive through the alleys. We knew the
- 9:21Speaker 10: street that she walked from the bus to the house,
- 9:24Speaker 10: so we drove that street several times. We did that
- 9:28Speaker 10: for hours.
- 9:29Speaker 1: We just kept hoping there's some other explanation. We just
- 9:33Speaker 1: kept hoping for some miracle that she would be okay.
- 9:43Speaker 1: I was at the Sheriff's office talking to a couple
- 9:46Speaker 1: of investigators see if they had any idea, anything else
- 9:49Speaker 1: we could do. My best friend was a captain, and
- 9:52Speaker 1: he said, we just had a call from Douglas County
- 9:55Speaker 1: that they found a body of a young female and
- 9:59Speaker 1: they want you to go out and see if you
- 10:00Speaker 1: can identify it. I just knew this had to be her.
- 10:04Speaker 1: This was the only reported missing young female. I'm just
- 10:08Speaker 1: sick of my stomach. I didn't want to go to
- 10:11Speaker 1: the scene and identify the body, but didn't have any choice.
- 10:16Speaker 1: We drove down to the location. I had to get
- 10:18Speaker 1: out and walk out into the snowy field. But as
- 10:22Speaker 1: soon as I got to the body, I know it
- 10:23Speaker 1: was her. I instantly knew it was her. It was
- 10:28Speaker 1: the worst thing I ever had to do, and it's
- 10:32Speaker 1: never left my mind.
- 10:36Speaker 3: On the seventeenth of January, I turned the news on.
- 10:41Speaker 3: There was breaking news and they said Helen Prazinski found
- 10:47Speaker 3: murdered in Denver, Colorado, and I thought, well, it's not Helene.
- 10:52Speaker 3: Because they said it's Helen. But you know, I knew
- 10:57Speaker 3: deep down that it most likely was her because how
- 10:59Speaker 3: many Pep people have the last name Prazinski. So I
- 11:02Speaker 3: had called my parents and asked them, and they told
- 11:06Speaker 3: me that it was true. And then the journey began
- 11:12Speaker 3: of just the shock and horror and wanting to find
- 11:14Speaker 3: out what happened.
- 11:18Speaker 5: It's awful for anybody the community that she lived in.
- 11:22Speaker 5: You know, they're all in fear. Now, why here? Why
- 11:25Speaker 5: did that happen? Could that happen to my kid? Could
- 11:29Speaker 5: that happen to me?
- 11:39Speaker 4: Twenty one year old Helene Prazinski has just been murdered.
- 11:43Speaker 4: Her body was found discarded on the frozen plains of
- 11:47Speaker 4: Douglas County, Colorado.
- 11:50Speaker 5: We have a deceased body. Now we need to try
- 11:53Speaker 5: understand what happened. They take her back to do an autopsy.
- 12:03Speaker 5: All her clothing, everything could have evidence on it, whether
- 12:07Speaker 5: it's fingerprints, whether it's hair.
- 12:09Speaker 6: The corner identified that she had been stabbed nine times
- 12:12Speaker 6: in the back.
- 12:14Speaker 5: Cause of death was from loss of blood, and both
- 12:17Speaker 5: of her lungs had collapsed.
- 12:19Speaker 6: The pathologists were able to confirm that she was sexually assaulted.
- 12:25Speaker 5: They were able to find some fluid, some dry fluid
- 12:29Speaker 5: could possibly be solilah or could be semen. So they
- 12:32Speaker 5: took samples of it and they preserved it. And in
- 12:36Speaker 5: nineteen eighty nobody really knew what DNA was. But for
- 12:40Speaker 5: whatever reason, the people working on this case just did
- 12:43Speaker 5: a phenomenal job of preserving all of her evidence.
- 12:48Speaker 6: The way that she was murdered does give an indication
- 12:52Speaker 6: that this is a crime of passion, and so that
- 12:56Speaker 6: sometimes leads to an individual who might know her.
- 13:00Speaker 3: We were told at the brutality of the murder, it
- 13:03Speaker 3: was with such rage that there was an opportunity for
- 13:08Speaker 3: it to be someone that she knew.
- 13:10Speaker 1: It seemed personal, but she's brand new to town. She
- 13:14Speaker 1: didn't have friends outside of the radio station.
- 13:17Speaker 4: Detectives questioned Helene's co workers at khow.
- 13:23Speaker 10: I was contacted by several investigators after the day that
- 13:27Speaker 10: Helene was found, and they wanted all the information I
- 13:30Speaker 10: could give them about people that worked for many people
- 13:33Speaker 10: in the radio station, anybody she had come in contact with,
- 13:37Speaker 10: or if there was anybody I thought that might want
- 13:39Speaker 10: to harm her.
- 13:41Speaker 6: Her aunt and uncle, they were the only people that
- 13:44Speaker 6: she had. She had no one else in her sphere
- 13:47Speaker 6: of interest other than what she had developed for a
- 13:50Speaker 6: very short period of time of two weeks at her internship.
- 13:55Speaker 5: Unfortunately, nobody panned out.
- 14:00Speaker 4: Helene's radio station colleagues used khow's hairwaves to help police
- 14:06Speaker 4: catch her killer.
- 14:09Speaker 10: We put out a ten thousand dollars reward for any information.
- 14:13Speaker 10: We ran stories on the air asking people to come forward.
- 14:17Speaker 5: A lady contacted law enforcement she saw a vehicle parked
- 14:22Speaker 5: on the side of the road in the location that
- 14:24Speaker 5: Helene's body was found. She saw a male suspect that
- 14:28Speaker 5: was appeared to be kneeling down by the rear of
- 14:31Speaker 5: the vehicle and looked toward her and the hazards won.
- 14:36Speaker 6: Investigators used hypnosis and a crime scene sketch artist to
- 14:43Speaker 6: develop a composite of a suspect that she thought she
- 14:48Speaker 6: had seen.
- 14:51Speaker 5: They have a composite of this white male with thick hair,
- 14:56Speaker 5: kind of part of the side with the mustache, but
- 14:59Speaker 5: it was aired and nothing ever came of it.
- 15:05Speaker 4: Back at her hometown, Eleen's friends and family are shocked
- 15:10Speaker 4: and heartbroken that the young woman they all love is
- 15:13Speaker 4: gone forever.
- 15:16Speaker 3: Going to her wake and her funeral was surreal, absolutely surreal,
- 15:26Speaker 3: but it was.
- 15:26Speaker 8: Very hard to get through. I remember sitting there surrounded
- 15:31Speaker 8: by my friends. We all held hands, we all cried
- 15:34Speaker 8: a lot.
- 15:37Speaker 9: There was a casket there with roses draped over the casket.
- 15:45Speaker 3: What could we say to her parents? When I looked
- 15:48Speaker 3: at them, all the light had gone out of them
- 15:52Speaker 3: and their eyes were just hollow, and it was just
- 15:57Speaker 3: really hard. They were never the same.
- 16:13Speaker 4: Investigators run down a trickle of leads, but more than
- 16:17Speaker 4: a year after the murder, the case goes cold.
- 16:21Speaker 5: There just wasn't any more leads for detectives to go
- 16:24Speaker 5: off of. In the eighties, DNA wasn't something that you
- 16:28Speaker 5: can go test to figure out who it was. There
- 16:30Speaker 5: were no fingerprints, so the case became a cold case.
- 16:35Speaker 1: I gave up all hope that they would ever find
- 16:38Speaker 1: the god. I thought they would never find him.
- 16:43Speaker 4: The years passed without any news on Heleen's case until
- 16:48Speaker 4: nineteen eighty four, when the investigation gets a jumpstart.
- 16:53Speaker 5: Did you kill a group?
- 16:56Speaker 2: Is that gil and there's a great thing around her neck?
- 16:59Speaker 10: Ye?
- 17:01Speaker 2: You remember her for sure?
- 17:02Speaker 5: Yeah, there's no doubt in your mind.
- 17:05Speaker 2: No doubt.
- 17:13Speaker 4: Four years after a twenty one year old Helene Prazinski
- 17:16Speaker 4: was brutally murdered investigators get a hot lead. Two men
- 17:22Speaker 4: who claim they've killed hundreds of women say that Helene
- 17:27Speaker 4: is one of their victims.
- 17:36Speaker 8: Okay, the time is eleven twenty am.
- 17:38Speaker 2: Or back in a interview with hot as school.
- 17:41Speaker 1: Do you remember if you were sitting at the bus
- 17:43Speaker 1: stop waiting for somebody to get off or I wouldn't.
- 17:46Speaker 7: Just pull up on the bus stop wait for somebody
- 17:48Speaker 7: get off.
- 17:48Speaker 1: Of the bus and asked me what that was this
- 17:50Speaker 1: girl right at the bus stop?
- 17:51Speaker 10: Or was she?
- 17:52Speaker 5: I say she was waiting for the bullets. I was
- 17:55Speaker 5: daring to show a coal out there too? Is it
- 17:58Speaker 5: snow an outside? Somebody comes in the hof was a riot?
- 18:00Speaker 5: And who take the richet and wait nothing?
- 18:04Speaker 6: Henry Lee Lucas and Ottis Toole were known as serial
- 18:09Speaker 6: killers in the United States and had confessed to a
- 18:14Speaker 6: number of murders across the United States. They had been
- 18:19Speaker 6: in Colorado had claimed to have murdered Helene Prazinski.
- 18:24Speaker 10: She was found in a field, which.
- 18:28Speaker 7: May open the fields four round.
- 18:32Speaker 6: It was a huge deal for the investigators at the
- 18:34Speaker 6: time because it went cold and all of a sudden,
- 18:36Speaker 6: here these two individuals, who for all intensive purposes were
- 18:41Speaker 6: really capable of committing this type of crime.
- 18:45Speaker 1: Do you remember having to stopped the car because she
- 18:47Speaker 1: was causing the trouble?
- 18:48Speaker 8: Well, Henry.
- 18:53Speaker 6: During the interview with these two individuals, investigators were getting
- 18:58Speaker 6: a lot of information that I was common in the
- 19:03Speaker 6: Helene crime scene, that she was abducted, that she's taken
- 19:08Speaker 6: to a field, that she was sexually assaulted, that she
- 19:12Speaker 6: was stabbed, and then one of them said that they
- 19:18Speaker 6: had shot her in the head. That caused the investigators
- 19:23Speaker 6: to pause it because we know that that didn't occur.
- 19:29Speaker 11: Everything you told us today about that girl that would
- 19:31Speaker 11: showed you the picture of that's true.
- 19:33Speaker 7: Yeah, you can't just make that if out of your mind.
- 19:37Speaker 5: You don't think I'm the smart do you have to
- 19:39Speaker 5: make upon These guys didn't kill Eleen, They had nothing
- 19:44Speaker 5: to do with the murder of Eleen, and they weren't
- 19:46Speaker 5: telling the truth.
- 19:48Speaker 6: These two individuals were able to draw information out of
- 19:50Speaker 6: the cops and then parlay that into a confession, and
- 19:55Speaker 6: they were doing that pretty readily.
- 19:57Speaker 2: In this case.
- 19:58Speaker 6: They were just trying to be the most notorious killers
- 20:03Speaker 6: in America, and so they were confessing to a lot
- 20:07Speaker 6: of stuff.
- 20:09Speaker 1: Do you remember stabbing her at all.
- 20:11Speaker 9: See if my mind is getting calls all again, traffic gases.
- 20:15Speaker 2: Well, we don't want you to get out.
- 20:17Speaker 1: We don't want you to guess, we want you to think.
- 20:23Speaker 5: So we were back to square one again.
- 20:30Speaker 10: I continued to follow everything that took place, and I
- 20:35Speaker 10: checked back frequently with people that I knew in Denver
- 20:39Speaker 10: to see if anything had ever been discovered and if
- 20:42Speaker 10: they were on any trails or had any new input.
- 20:46Speaker 10: And every time I checked back, it was nothing.
- 20:48Speaker 2: Nothing.
- 20:51Speaker 3: Some people were frustrated, thinking, you know, we'll never know,
- 20:54Speaker 3: but it certainly never left our minds, and we were
- 20:57Speaker 3: always talking with one another about what else could we do.
- 21:02Speaker 9: Over the years, we stayed in touch with Helene's family.
- 21:07Speaker 8: It was difficult because it was way before cell phones
- 21:10Speaker 8: and social media, but I stayed connected with her sister.
- 21:14Speaker 8: I stayed connected with her parents. I used to go
- 21:17Speaker 8: and visit them. But you know, you look around the
- 21:20Speaker 8: room and who's missing Helene, And that never should have been.
- 21:26Speaker 3: We were all building families. Now we're married, we're having children,
- 21:29Speaker 3: we're building careers. But just never left us, not for
- 21:33Speaker 3: a moment then, outside of my marriage, outside of being
- 21:37Speaker 3: a mom, outside of my career. You know, people say, well,
- 21:40Speaker 3: what's your hobby? And mine wasn't golf. Mine was solving
- 21:43Speaker 3: Helene's case for her family because we didn't think that
- 21:47Speaker 3: her parents or her family should carry that burden that
- 21:49Speaker 3: we were going to start to just at least drive
- 21:51Speaker 3: it with the detectives, in the sense that we would
- 21:54Speaker 3: be calling the detectives, where are you on this case?
- 21:58Speaker 3: Have there been any advancements? I made a promise to
- 22:03Speaker 3: her parents that I would not rest until we found
- 22:07Speaker 3: out who, why, how, and get the answers for them.
- 22:14Speaker 9: And when Kimberly makes a promise, there's no breaking that promise.
- 22:26Speaker 3: Out of the pain rose the commitment and drive to
- 22:31Speaker 3: be like a bulldog and not rest until this was sold.
- 22:36Speaker 3: Because it went cold fairly quickly, because there really weren't
- 22:40Speaker 3: any suspects.
- 22:42Speaker 4: Years stretch into decades and there are no leads. It
- 22:47Speaker 4: seems that Helene Prazinski's killer has gotten away with murder.
- 22:58Speaker 3: On the twenty six annivers three of Helene's death, I
- 23:03Speaker 3: flew out to Colorado with the original Harmony group and
- 23:06Speaker 3: our music director, CC Hunt with the goal of retracing
- 23:09Speaker 3: Helene's steps, and we hauled every single media outlet and
- 23:13Speaker 3: told him what we were doing.
- 23:14Speaker 8: Four high school friends walk the path their friend, Helene
- 23:17Speaker 8: Prasninski took twenty six years ago.
- 23:20Speaker 9: Every TV station followed us. We started at the news
- 23:25Speaker 9: and every and every channel.
- 23:27Speaker 3: We thought, well, maybe this will trigger a memory of
- 23:31Speaker 3: somebody's or maybe the killer will get curious as to
- 23:37Speaker 3: what's all this attention. All of a sudden, I remember
- 23:39Speaker 3: that now we're just looking for people that must know something,
- 23:46Speaker 3: a mother, an old.
- 23:47Speaker 9: Girlfriend, a fellow inmate.
- 23:49Speaker 3: At some point, all.
- 23:55Speaker 4: That media attention yields nothing new, So kimberly try us
- 24:00Speaker 4: another approach, building a website dedicated to Helene's case.
- 24:06Speaker 3: I secured a friend of mine who is a software developer,
- 24:12Speaker 3: and we built traps on the website to say, if
- 24:15Speaker 3: anyone goes to the website, we want to collect their
- 24:19Speaker 3: IP address, and we want to know how long they
- 24:22Speaker 3: sit on each page of the website. And then they
- 24:25Speaker 3: would generate a report and send the Colorado Your of
- 24:29Speaker 3: Investigation a report of who went to that website and
- 24:32Speaker 3: hope that the killer would go to the website and
- 24:35Speaker 3: we could find him that way. Because the DNA through
- 24:38Speaker 3: the code of system, there were no hits and so
- 24:41Speaker 3: we were trying to find other ways to trap him.
- 24:45Speaker 6: How cool would it be to have a friend like
- 24:47Speaker 6: that to stay with you even after you're dead for
- 24:52Speaker 6: all these years. So here you have someone who is
- 24:55Speaker 6: doing a tremendous amount of work. Anything new that happened
- 24:59Speaker 6: in forensics science, anything new that happened to investigations.
- 25:02Speaker 2: She was on top of it. She was searching it.
- 25:04Speaker 6: She was trying to find an answer to whoever killed
- 25:08Speaker 6: her friend Helene.
- 25:11Speaker 4: Despite her friend's best efforts, Helene's case stays ice cold
- 25:16Speaker 4: for nine more long years. It would take a new
- 25:21Speaker 4: sheriff and a new unit for the investigation to finally
- 25:26Speaker 4: heat up.
- 25:33Speaker 6: So when I became elected sheriff, one of the first
- 25:37Speaker 6: things I did is I created a cold case unit
- 25:39Speaker 6: with a full time detective. And that unit, their only
- 25:46Speaker 6: job really was to start from scratch. And I brought
- 25:49Speaker 6: in Lieutenant Tommy Burrella, and I said, listen, I need
- 25:52Speaker 6: you to solve those cases. I need you to make
- 25:54Speaker 6: some moves on us.
- 25:55Speaker 5: He established a cold case review team that's made of
- 25:59Speaker 5: five civilians. Two of them were lawyers, one of them
- 26:03Speaker 5: is a doctor, and the other two are people there
- 26:05Speaker 5: and had an interest in this He really wanted us
- 26:08Speaker 5: to put a lot of energy and work into getting
- 26:12Speaker 5: these cold cases solved, and he said, you know, I
- 26:15Speaker 5: would like to see two solved in the next two years.
- 26:20Speaker 3: So we heard of the cold case focus in Douglas County.
- 26:26Speaker 3: We were very excited, and we knew that Helene's case
- 26:29Speaker 3: was one of them that was being worked on with
- 26:31Speaker 3: this new team, and so that gave us renewed hope.
- 26:42Speaker 4: That hope centers of the DNA sample investigators collected off
- 26:47Speaker 4: Helene's buddy forty years earlier in nineteen eighty that DNA
- 26:52Speaker 4: wasn't useful, But decades later, investigators have new tools that
- 26:58Speaker 4: might help identify a lead skiller.
- 27:01Speaker 7: The hardest thing about this case was who it happened to,
- 27:05Speaker 7: because this was obviously a very talented young woman. When
- 27:09Speaker 7: you knew what happened to the victim in this case,
- 27:12Speaker 7: it just made you that much more committed to work
- 27:16Speaker 7: hard to try to figure out who would do such
- 27:19Speaker 7: a horrible thing.
- 27:21Speaker 6: We had learned that there was an opportunity to use
- 27:24Speaker 6: investigative genetic genealogists, and we contracted with United Data Connect
- 27:31Speaker 6: to make that happen.
- 27:33Speaker 7: Genetic genealogy is using a DNA technique that then allows
- 27:39Speaker 7: you to apply genealogy techniques, liking it to getting you
- 27:45Speaker 7: in the ballpark, and now you use genealogy techniques to
- 27:49Speaker 7: find your seat.
- 27:50Speaker 6: We gave them DNA of our suspect to create from
- 27:56Speaker 6: that genetic data a family treat.
- 28:00Speaker 4: Detectives build the branches of that tree using commercial genealogy
- 28:05Speaker 4: sites like ancestry dot com or twenty three and meters.
- 28:10Speaker 4: They simply run DNA from the crime scene through those sites,
- 28:15Speaker 4: looking for anyone with even partial DNA matches. Based on
- 28:19Speaker 4: the Centa Morgans.
- 28:22Speaker 7: Santa Morgan's is a unit for measuring DNA. You and
- 28:25Speaker 7: I may not be related at all, so there'd be
- 28:28Speaker 7: no centamorgans. If you and I were siblings, it would
- 28:32Speaker 7: be a very high number.
- 28:34Speaker 4: Investigators work on the DNA simple and the genealogy sites
- 28:39Speaker 4: for weeks, and they finally get a promising lead.
- 28:45Speaker 7: We had gotten to the point with our genealogy work
- 28:49Speaker 7: and the number of Cenamorgans that we had. We found
- 28:54Speaker 7: who we thought was the mother of the person that
- 28:57Speaker 7: did this horrible act in Douglas County.
- 29:05Speaker 3: We got very very frustrating how long before the technology
- 29:11Speaker 3: would catch up to be able to find this guy,
- 29:13Speaker 3: and that was always the thing we'd say to each other,
- 29:16Speaker 3: they've got his DNA.
- 29:22Speaker 4: Using forensic genealogy, detectives find a match with a woman
- 29:27Speaker 4: they believe as their suspects mother.
- 29:30Speaker 7: She was the mother of multiple kids. But the women
- 29:34Speaker 7: could be thrown out right away. They didn't commit this
- 29:37Speaker 7: crime because it was a male sample.
- 29:40Speaker 2: It was a semen.
- 29:42Speaker 7: Sample, but by all accounts and all records, she didn't
- 29:46Speaker 7: have any boys. So we thought, well, this is a problem.
- 29:51Speaker 5: Everything was relooked at again, and the phone call started
- 29:54Speaker 5: being made the possible family members in this possible family tree,
- 29:58Speaker 5: asking people if they would voluntary give samples of their DNA.
- 30:04Speaker 5: And as we're testing these people and getting their DNA,
- 30:07Speaker 5: these sent the Morgans. The numbers are increasing, and as
- 30:11Speaker 5: the numbers increase, that means we're getting closer and closer
- 30:14Speaker 5: to our suspect.
- 30:16Speaker 4: When detectives question the woman's relatives, they get one step
- 30:20Speaker 4: closer to the truth. They discovered she'd given up two
- 30:24Speaker 4: sons for adoption.
- 30:27Speaker 7: My genealogist and this detective Doug deeper, and what they
- 30:31Speaker 7: came up with was the very old newspaper article about
- 30:35Speaker 7: a reunion between this woman and her son, and in
- 30:40Speaker 7: that article they mentioned another son. Now we knew she
- 30:48Speaker 7: had two boys. We were able to eliminate one of
- 30:51Speaker 7: the sons very quickly because his DNA was already in
- 30:57Speaker 7: the Codis DNA system and there was no match. The
- 31:02Speaker 7: younger brother that we focused on. His name was Curtis
- 31:06Speaker 7: Allen White. Mister White had committed a rape before nineteen eighty.
- 31:14Speaker 7: He had gone to prison for that rape. In fact,
- 31:17Speaker 7: he used to knive this long before DNA, so there
- 31:22Speaker 7: was no DNA database.
- 31:23Speaker 2: For him to go into.
- 31:25Speaker 7: He served a very short sentence for such a violent crime,
- 31:29Speaker 7: and then he parolled to Colorado.
- 31:32Speaker 5: He was out here during the time that Helene came
- 31:36Speaker 5: here in nineteen seventy nine and was out here during
- 31:39Speaker 5: the time that Helen would have been murdered.
- 31:40Speaker 2: So now we're feeling like, okay, this could be our guy.
- 31:46Speaker 5: We check his fingerprints and they come back to a
- 31:49Speaker 5: guy named James Curtis Clinton down in Florida. So detectives
- 31:55Speaker 5: follow up on that and James Curtis Clinton is arrested
- 31:58Speaker 5: in nineteen ninety eight for domestic violence and once they
- 32:03Speaker 5: send the booking photo to us when it was compared
- 32:06Speaker 5: to the composite drawing that was given to us by
- 32:08Speaker 5: a lady under hypnosis in nineteen eighty were almost identical.
- 32:15Speaker 5: Now we know that Curtis aln White and James Curtis
- 32:19Speaker 5: Clinton are the same person.
- 32:24Speaker 7: He was living in a very small town, a rural
- 32:28Speaker 7: area in Florida.
- 32:30Speaker 2: He was a truck driver.
- 32:32Speaker 7: And now the focus was how do we get his
- 32:34Speaker 7: DNA that shows that his DNA matches the DNA that
- 32:39Speaker 7: was found on the clothing of the victim.
- 32:48Speaker 4: Detectives fly from Colorado to Florida and tailed James Clinton
- 32:52Speaker 4: for six days looking for any chance to secretly obtain
- 32:58Speaker 4: his DNA.
- 33:00Speaker 7: When you're out looking for someone's DNA, you have to
- 33:02Speaker 7: be careful. What you do is use undercover officers to
- 33:07Speaker 7: surveil the individual, and you're looking for a band in DNA.
- 33:13Speaker 5: They're following Dames Curtis Clinton with no luck. He wakes
- 33:17Speaker 5: up very on in the morning. His work truck is
- 33:19Speaker 5: at his house. He gets in it and goes right
- 33:21Speaker 5: to work. He finishes his day about three or four
- 33:24Speaker 5: in the afternoon and drives his truck home and then
- 33:27Speaker 5: spends the rest of the night in the house, and
- 33:29Speaker 5: this went on every day, so there were really no opportunities.
- 33:33Speaker 4: The detectives finally catch a break when Clinton heads to
- 33:37Speaker 4: a local bar.
- 33:40Speaker 5: When he leaves, the waitress takes the mugs off the
- 33:43Speaker 5: bar and puts them underneath. Doesn't wash him yet, just
- 33:45Speaker 5: puts them underneath to wash him at a later time.
- 33:48Speaker 5: And the detective is watching it, and the owner comes
- 33:51Speaker 5: in and meets us out back and hands us these mugs.
- 33:54Speaker 7: And within days those detectives got back a positive result.
- 34:00Speaker 7: The DNA that was found on the bear mugs matched
- 34:03Speaker 7: the DNA that he had left forty years earlier on
- 34:08Speaker 7: this poor victim's clothing, and we had our.
- 34:12Speaker 5: Man, James Curtis Clanton is our murderer. Now there's a
- 34:17Speaker 5: murderer on the loose, So we sent four detectives down
- 34:22Speaker 5: to conduct twenty four hours of bounce on him, because
- 34:25Speaker 5: anything he does at this from this moment on, we
- 34:27Speaker 5: would be responsible for.
- 34:35Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, it is.
- 34:38Speaker 12: One pm.
- 34:41Speaker 11: Thanks your who's going down to dry away.
- 34:48Speaker 5: We met him on his property. We come up with
- 34:57Speaker 5: the roofs about a large insurance fraud. We use that approach.
- 35:02Speaker 12: So I really appreciate your willingness to help us out
- 35:05Speaker 12: with this. Your name came up initially as a suspect
- 35:08Speaker 12: and our major securities fraud case out of Colorado, doctor
- 35:12Speaker 12: pull by a million dollar days.
- 35:14Speaker 5: We want to talk to him and try and get
- 35:17Speaker 5: a confession. But I had never interviewed a murder suspect.
- 35:21Speaker 5: Detectives in the cold case unit weren't comfortable interviewing the
- 35:25Speaker 5: suspects for the same reasons, So we were wondering how
- 35:30Speaker 5: we want to approach this, who should approach it, what
- 35:33Speaker 5: sec should the interviewers be this We're playing with very
- 35:36Speaker 5: high stakes right now, and we want justice for Helena,
- 35:40Speaker 5: and just arresting a person is injustice. Having that person,
- 35:43Speaker 5: you know, being held accountable is justice.
- 35:56Speaker 4: Detectives are finally closing in on the men they believe
- 35:59Speaker 4: murdered Leen Brazinski, James Curtis Clinton.
- 36:05Speaker 2: We want to have an interview with him.
- 36:07Speaker 6: We wanted to make sure that we could get as
- 36:09Speaker 6: much information as we had, even though we had scientific
- 36:12Speaker 6: proof that he was the person.
- 36:20Speaker 12: So would you mind voluntarily coming down to the Sheriff's
- 36:24Speaker 12: office here in Union County with us just to talk
- 36:26Speaker 12: in a video recorded interviewer for a few minutes and
- 36:29Speaker 12: I sincerely appreciate it.
- 36:31Speaker 4: Clinton agrees to go back to police headquarters for an interview.
- 36:36Speaker 12: So I apologize for the cramped conditions here. You're not
- 36:39Speaker 12: locked in here or anything like that. Is there a
- 36:48Speaker 12: need to call in for dispatch?
- 36:52Speaker 11: What do you mean I'm going to be able to
- 36:54Speaker 11: go to work on how?
- 36:56Speaker 2: I how I was going to have to see if if.
- 36:58Speaker 11: He had any additional question, I'm going to go to
- 37:00Speaker 11: work tomorrow.
- 37:02Speaker 2: Well, well, then we just have a few more questions.
- 37:06Speaker 12: I want to try to make this an expedient for
- 37:08Speaker 12: responsible grongly.
- 37:10Speaker 11: Not go to work tomorrow.
- 37:12Speaker 2: I didn't say that.
- 37:13Speaker 12: That's where said, We're just I just want to make
- 37:15Speaker 12: sure that we're come a little more basis so that
- 37:16Speaker 12: we don't have to reach out to you again.
- 37:20Speaker 5: In corporate trend, those slides the picture forward and says.
- 37:24Speaker 1: Could probably tell by now and there's more of this
- 37:27Speaker 1: in this financial case, right.
- 37:29Speaker 2: So we talked about how I don't really care about
- 37:35Speaker 2: stolen cars nineteen eighty Colorado. What you care about a
- 37:40Speaker 2: young woman Colorado.
- 37:42Speaker 5: In nineteen eighty And I want to I want to
- 37:45Speaker 5: show you a picture of Ritsy.
- 37:47Speaker 7: If you recognize it. We go chet turning.
- 38:02Speaker 5: Now you see him look at it, and his demeanor changed.
- 38:07Speaker 4: Investigators are now certain they are face to face with
- 38:12Speaker 4: Helene's killer.
- 38:14Speaker 12: We actually have do have a want for your arrest
- 38:17Speaker 12: for first gree murder and kiss for what first great
- 38:20Speaker 12: murder and kidnapping.
- 38:21Speaker 2: That's when we fort a strong guy.
- 38:22Speaker 5: I basually have your DNA and her honor. When the
- 38:28Speaker 5: sergeant said your seaman was found on her and in her,
- 38:32Speaker 5: he kind of paused and just said, Oh, I think
- 38:36Speaker 5: that was a very pivotal moment in mister Clinton's hearts.
- 38:40Speaker 11: At this point, you are after arrest.
- 38:42Speaker 2: We're going to turn you over to the custody of
- 38:44Speaker 2: the Union County ourselves.
- 38:45Speaker 12: Just woint where you will be old without bond, anny.
- 38:47Speaker 4: Extradition, beliefs. Arrest James Clinton on the spot, don't getting
- 38:55Speaker 4: on Alene. Police bring Clinton to Colorado the face murder charges.
- 39:03Speaker 4: During the flight, he opens up about that night in
- 39:06Speaker 4: nineteen eighty Do.
- 39:07Speaker 13: You remember what you were wearing? You have been wearing
- 39:11Speaker 13: cowboy with shears wear? What what made Helene the right target?
- 39:20Speaker 11: Faith?
- 39:23Speaker 5: He said he saw Helene stand up to get off
- 39:25Speaker 5: the bus. He made a U turn and as she's
- 39:28Speaker 5: crossing the street. He shows in a knife. She says,
- 39:31Speaker 5: I see it. He walks over, puts his arm around
- 39:33Speaker 5: her and says, come with me, and ties her hands
- 39:36Speaker 5: behind her back with the strap from her purse.
- 39:41Speaker 11: She didn't tell me about herself. She asked me what
- 39:43Speaker 11: I was doing. I told her that I was getting
- 39:48Speaker 11: nabbing her for money, and she said, well, my parents
- 39:50Speaker 11: don't have any money, and you know, stuff like that.
- 39:57Speaker 11: I didn't tell her what I'd been doing in jail.
- 40:00Speaker 2: Which.
- 40:04Speaker 5: We just talked about in six hours on a plane.
- 40:06Speaker 5: I mean, anything and everything, and there was nothing that
- 40:08Speaker 5: was off limits. And you know, one thing that we
- 40:10Speaker 5: asked several times was did you commit any other crimes?
- 40:15Speaker 5: And did you commit any other sex assaults or rapes
- 40:18Speaker 5: or murders or anything. And he was adamant that he didn't.
- 40:22Speaker 5: He was angry, and he said that women have always
- 40:25Speaker 5: been the cause of his pain in his life, so
- 40:28Speaker 5: that he had his mind that he was going to
- 40:30Speaker 5: crab a girl and he was going to kidnap her,
- 40:32Speaker 5: and raper that was his plan.
- 40:38Speaker 6: It was one of those kinds of feelings where it
- 40:40Speaker 6: hits you in the chest.
- 40:42Speaker 2: You're like, we've got this guy.
- 40:44Speaker 1: Well, she was kidnapped and murdered in Douglas County nearly
- 40:47Speaker 1: four decades ago.
- 40:48Speaker 2: And I just got off the phone with Helene's sister.
- 40:53Speaker 6: It was kind of one of those bittersweet moments because
- 40:57Speaker 6: this has been a long time.
- 41:00Speaker 1: He just amazed, just amazed and glad. I'm glad that
- 41:04Speaker 1: they caught him.
- 41:07Speaker 3: That was a phone call I won't forget. Finally hearing
- 41:11Speaker 3: that they got the guy was such a shock. It
- 41:14Speaker 3: was just like this, this huge jault of happiness.
- 41:21Speaker 10: I was just totally elated that had finally happened after
- 41:24Speaker 10: forty years.
- 41:26Speaker 9: It was a relief, But there's never closure on something
- 41:32Speaker 9: that's so heinous like this.
- 41:39Speaker 4: More than forty years after Helene's murder, her killer finally
- 41:43Speaker 4: faces justice. James Clinton pleads guilty in a Colorado courtroom.
- 41:51Speaker 8: So I'm glad that the people that loved Helene didn't
- 41:54Speaker 8: have to sit through a trial.
- 41:57Speaker 4: Sixty three year old Clinton is sentenced to life in prison.
- 42:02Speaker 4: He will be eligible for parole after twenty years.
- 42:08Speaker 3: We went out for the sentencing of dis murderer and
- 42:13Speaker 3: we got in a big group for a group photo afterwards,
- 42:16Speaker 3: and it was mind boggling how many people played a
- 42:19Speaker 3: significant role in.
- 42:21Speaker 8: All of us.
- 42:23Speaker 3: We will forever be grateful for everything that they did.
- 42:29Speaker 3: The big void is now closed, and now we can
- 42:35Speaker 3: really start with the healing. You can't heal when that
- 42:38Speaker 3: wound remains open, and we'll never heal completely. But now
- 42:41Speaker 3: we can soften the edges around the broken pieces of
- 42:46Speaker 3: our hearts and be with Helene in a different way. Now,
- 42:52Speaker 3: you know, not being buried in her murder, but being
- 42:54Speaker 3: buried back into the joy and the spirit of her life.