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The Intel With Greg Cosell: Eagles Tight End Room Breakdown, NFC East Adds, Free Agent Tape Analysis · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome back to the Intel with Greg Cosell on
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  Speaker 1: Inside the Birds. I'm Jeff Mosher with Adam Kaplan and
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  Speaker 1: we got Greg Cosell. And this is part two of
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  Speaker 1: a NFL Free agency two part podcast that we're doing
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  Speaker 1: going through the free agent signings. We did the defense
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  Speaker 1: in the first one, and now we are going to
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  Speaker 1: do the offense. Not as many big name signings, but
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  Speaker 1: certainly some big name moves. And you know, Greg, the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles were pretty quiet on this front until the second
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  Speaker 1: day or night i should say, a free agency when
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  Speaker 1: they started to address the tight end group and they
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  Speaker 1: bring in Johnny munt which I think we'll get your
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  Speaker 1: thoughts on what that means for the scheme, and then
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  Speaker 1: they bring back Grant Calcaterra there as well. So when
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  Speaker 1: you look at those two tight ends, two very different
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  Speaker 1: tight ends, what does it signal to you?
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  Speaker 2: Well, Johnny Munz knows the system extremely well.
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  Speaker 3: He was with the Rams and he was with the Jaguars,
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  Speaker 3: and that's that that's the system and vikings right right.
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  Speaker 3: So he you know, you're bringing in a guy that
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  Speaker 3: knows the system backwards and forwards. He doesn't have to
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  Speaker 3: be taught how to play in the system. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: one could argue that we always look at the past
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  Speaker 3: game and everyone wants to talk about Jalen Hurts, he's
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  Speaker 3: the quarterback. Obviously people talk about quarterbacks. But this is
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  Speaker 3: this is really foundationally a run game system. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: I think with Johnny Munt, he's a he's a very
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  Speaker 3: very good inline blocker, and which we know Calcatara is not.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, I think that a player like that
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  Speaker 3: who understands everything about how it's taught, how it has
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  Speaker 3: to be executed, he can almost teach the other guys.
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  Speaker 3: You know, and he's a veteran. I don't know, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I was going our own personally, but I imagine he's one
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  Speaker 3: of those guys that's that's good at all that. Otherwise
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  Speaker 3: he really wouldn't be in the league very long because
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  Speaker 3: he's not a super talent. So I think he was
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  Speaker 3: brought in because you can line him up in line
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  Speaker 3: and he knows the system and they can run the
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  Speaker 3: ball and and that's why he was brought in.
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  Speaker 2: Simple as that.
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  Speaker 4: Pretty much his entire cur jeff It was in the
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  Speaker 4: West Coast offense. He was with Liam Cohen West Coast.
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  Speaker 4: He started his career with McVeigh and seventeen was there
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  Speaker 4: for a while and that's how he got it. You know,
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  Speaker 4: he got on the map. Honestly, he stood out as
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  Speaker 4: an undirected free agent and he was on off the
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  Speaker 4: roster of your own. But once he made it, he
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  Speaker 4: became one of those why tight ends. We've talked about
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  Speaker 4: this for years. Coaches love why. It's hard to find
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  Speaker 4: these guys.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, again, you never know if this is
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  Speaker 3: a true trend or you know what's going to happen
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  Speaker 3: in the league this year, but you know, teams have
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  Speaker 3: been playing more with multiple tight ends. I mean it's,
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  Speaker 3: you know, just the way the league seems to move now.
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  Speaker 3: So he's but that's why he's there. He knows the
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  Speaker 3: system and he's a very good in line blocker.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I believe that Saun Mannion was a like a
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  Speaker 1: practice squad quarterback for the Vikings at the same time
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  Speaker 1: overlapping when yeah, sure was there. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you guys all remember this, but you know how Eagles
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  Speaker 1: fans get crazy on things. There was a game against
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  Speaker 1: the Vikings where Hassan Reddick had to drop into coverage
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  Speaker 1: for the Eagles in the red zone and the ball
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  Speaker 1: got thrown to Johnny Munt and he caught it for
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  Speaker 1: a first down, and I think the Vikings went on
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  Speaker 1: to score. And I just remember the next day, why
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  Speaker 1: is Hassan Reddick dropping in the right? You know, john
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  Speaker 1: was a talking point.
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  Speaker 3: Was one of those guys when he did catch a pass,
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  Speaker 3: which is relatively infrequently, he went, oh my god, Johnny.
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  Speaker 5: Mount caught a pass.
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  Speaker 2: He's not there to catch passes.
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  Speaker 4: Right Well, speaking of passes, let's get to the quarterback group.
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  Speaker 4: I was expecting Milik Willis went to Miami, but we
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  Speaker 4: kind of all thought that was going to happen. Milike Willis,
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  Speaker 4: Greg you've watched his tape, Let's talk about what's it
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  Speaker 4: looked like and how do you think it fits in here?
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  Speaker 2: Willis is a very hard evaluation.
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  Speaker 3: Because, first of all, the most passes he's thrown in
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  Speaker 3: the game was his rookie season with Tennessee when he
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  Speaker 3: certainly wasn't ready to play, and that was twenty three passes.
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  Speaker 3: So the sample size of Malik Willis actually dropping back.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, in a sense, going through a progression
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  Speaker 3: and making a throw is extremely limited, extremely limited. Now,
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  Speaker 3: what Malik Willis brings to the table because he is
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  Speaker 3: a dynamic, dynamic runner and a great athlete. Is he
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  Speaker 3: brings all those other elements that for many are increasingly
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  Speaker 3: important at the quarterback position. And Jeff Hafley, it clearly
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  Speaker 3: knows him because he was just in Green Bay with him.
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  Speaker 3: So Jeff Hafley and I would assume that his point
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  Speaker 3: of view as a defensive coach is that a quarterback
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  Speaker 3: like Willis is very hard to defend because of the
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  Speaker 3: run game element, both by design and the scrambling element.
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  Speaker 3: But if you're trying to evaluate Willis and his ability
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  Speaker 3: to play what we would view as more traditional quarterback,
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  Speaker 3: dropping back, reading coverage, the sample size is too small
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  Speaker 3: to do anything but make a projection.
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  Speaker 5: You know what?
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  Speaker 4: And Greg what I'd add? You know how much they
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  Speaker 4: know this player? The head coach, the general manager, and
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  Speaker 4: John Robinson, yes, the guy who actually drafted and Robinson's
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  Speaker 4: now on the Miami Jeff as a senior executive. Jeff,
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  Speaker 4: So if anyone knows them, it's them. And I was
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  Speaker 4: talking to someone and pro personnel from a team for
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  Speaker 4: free agency. He goes, you know what, because he is job,
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  Speaker 4: he had a great the quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 5: He goes.
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  Speaker 4: You saw some really good things last year and Sean
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  Speaker 4: Mannion was his quarterbacks coach.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, like this guy, he's got a good arm.
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  Speaker 4: He's just a little small but gray Jeff actually as
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  Speaker 4: a center back to you, they guaranteed forty five million
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  Speaker 4: over two years. I know it's average per year is
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty eight million, which is a low and starter,
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  Speaker 4: but the way they structured it, he's gonna have to
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  Speaker 4: be really bad for him not to come back to
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  Speaker 4: the start in here two.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jeff, or you're on a rookie and you're you know,
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  Speaker 1: whose salary would be low and negates it if they
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  Speaker 1: happen to be terrible next year and have the number
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  Speaker 1: one pick for the following Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Keep in mind that Bobby Slow, it's THEOC there, right
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  Speaker 2: y yep.
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  Speaker 1: I was just about to bring that.
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  Speaker 3: Up and his background in San Francisco, which foundationally you
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  Speaker 3: have the outside zone run game, You've got a lot
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  Speaker 3: of boot action, that's a part of it. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you can even lean into more boot action because of Willis,
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  Speaker 3: So you know this could work now again in every
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  Speaker 3: game you're gonna have third downs where you do have
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  Speaker 3: to drop back, but then the defense also has to
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  Speaker 3: deal with the fact that Willis can run, so you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's the reality is is that the quarterbacks that can
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  Speaker 3: move and make plays with their legs, particularly on third down,
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  Speaker 3: they are really difficult to defend. I remember having a
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  Speaker 3: great conversation with Dean P's a number of years ago
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  Speaker 3: about these kinds of quarterbacks, and he said, you almost
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  Speaker 3: have to have two defenses on these kinds of downs.
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  Speaker 3: You have to have the first two seconds where you
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  Speaker 3: play your defense, and then everything after that where you
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  Speaker 3: almost have to have another defense because of the way
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  Speaker 3: the quarterbacks can move. So they're very, very difficult to defend.
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  Speaker 3: And as I said, with Jeff Hafley being a defensive coach,
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  Speaker 3: he probably knows how difficult that is.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yep. By the way, don't forget who their past
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  Speaker 1: game coordinator now is.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, right, that's right. Yea.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, contrary to you know what Eagles fans think,
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  Speaker 3: he is highly respected around the league.
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  Speaker 2: Highly respected.
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  Speaker 1: I believe it was Hathley who said he Patullo blew
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  Speaker 1: him away.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh no, he's highly respected around the league very much.
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  Speaker 1: So all right, big acquisition for the Chiefs, Greg. They
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  Speaker 1: finally get a running back they can play on, uh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a lot. Then that's Kenneth Walker. And then you know,
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  Speaker 1: we'll we'll also talk about New Orleans getting Travis etn
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  Speaker 1: But Kenneth Walker. Is that just the running game that
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  Speaker 1: the Chiefs have needed and not helps you.
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  Speaker 3: An interesting team because you know, because of Mahomes and
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  Speaker 3: obviously Mahomes is great, that's you know, you almost feel
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  Speaker 3: like you have to qualify that Mahomes is great, but
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  Speaker 3: they've not been a great offensive team the last three years.
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  Speaker 3: That's just the reality. So they've been unable to run
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  Speaker 3: the football. And Mahomes is now getting older, he's coming
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  Speaker 3: on al. I'm not saying that his career is over.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he could play for ten more years and
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  Speaker 3: be great. No one knows the answer to that, but
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  Speaker 3: they probably on a certain level feel like that they
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  Speaker 3: need to be able to run the ball with not
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  Speaker 3: only production, but with a little more volume. That they
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  Speaker 3: need to come out and run the ball, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And Walker. The thing about Walker is, I thought in
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  Speaker 3: the second half of this season he became a much
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  Speaker 3: better runner. He was always the way I described him,
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  Speaker 3: even watching his college tape and through his first couple
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  Speaker 3: of years with the Seahawks is he was more jazz
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  Speaker 3: musician improvisation than classical pianist playing the notes. He would
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  Speaker 3: always look for something, and I thought in the second
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  Speaker 3: half of this season he started to get hard yards.
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  Speaker 3: And he always has the ability to break it because
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  Speaker 3: he's explosive, but I thought that he started to get
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  Speaker 3: the hard yards, which keeps your offense on track. So
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  Speaker 3: he's a very good back because he can break it.
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  Speaker 3: He is a home run hitter, and I think he
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  Speaker 3: can carry two hundred and fifty two hundred seventy times.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's that kind of back.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The only question is, because this came up with Seattle,
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  Speaker 4: is he's not in on every third down. They had
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  Speaker 4: Holwane on there and Zach Charmona right right, so that
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  Speaker 4: would be look the contract you.
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  Speaker 3: Can't find Again, I don't want to say they're easy
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  Speaker 3: to find. It's not like you go to the store
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  Speaker 3: to find a third down back, but you can find
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  Speaker 3: a guy like for a couple of years they had
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  Speaker 3: McKinnon was a great.
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  Speaker 2: Third down back.
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  Speaker 3: I think they can find a guy that could play
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  Speaker 3: in those kinds of situations.
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  Speaker 4: I'm interested, though, because of the money that they're paying
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  Speaker 4: him Walker.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you would want him to play.
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  Speaker 2: And he may. He may. I don't think he's a
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  Speaker 2: terrible blocker.
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  Speaker 5: He's not good.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he's terror I think he gives effort.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, cool, Greg.
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  Speaker 1: The Saints are going to be an interesting team going
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  Speaker 1: into next year because they finished so strong. It appears
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  Speaker 1: that maybe they've they found their guy in Tyler Shuck.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that'd actually be bigger spenders. And there's still
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  Speaker 1: plenty of time left. But they do bring in Travis
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  Speaker 1: Etn Now they still have come. We'll have to see what.
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  Speaker 2: Happens kind of close to the end.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I love album Kamara, you know, and I
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  Speaker 3: think everybody does. I mean, he's had a great career.
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  Speaker 3: He's been a terrific player, just an all around player, runner, receiver, blocker,
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  Speaker 3: just really a good football player.
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  Speaker 4: So, Jeffrey, you should know that they they restructured. He
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  Speaker 4: had one year left, so to the cover of the cap,
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  Speaker 4: he just restructured the last year, which is over. The
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  Speaker 4: total cash is for ever eleven million. I know they
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  Speaker 4: do some strange things there with contracts. I'm sure they
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  Speaker 4: could trade them, but why would you do that when
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  Speaker 4: you just restructured.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think it's benefit to have both of
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  Speaker 1: those guys if you're trying to build up a little
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  Speaker 1: bit here, you know, a nice little committee.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it Actually it could be an interesting
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  Speaker 5: two back system.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, AHTN obviously is a home run hitter, or
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  Speaker 3: he can take it to the house. It'll be interesting
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  Speaker 3: to see what the balance of division of labor is
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  Speaker 3: with those two backs.
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  Speaker 5: Agree.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Kamara is at the point of career where
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  Speaker 3: he's probably not a two hundred and twenty carry, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you know, but he's so good in past pro He's
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  Speaker 3: a terrific receiver. I mean, I could see him carrying
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  Speaker 3: one hundred and forty hundred and fifty times in ATN
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  Speaker 3: carrying one hundred and ninety times, you know, that kind
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  Speaker 3: of thing. But ATN is explosive. But you're right about Chuck,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Shuck, you know, he's going to be their quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 5: Interesting.
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  Speaker 1: If they keep all of Alave and then maybe just
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  Speaker 1: add one more pass weapon, they certainly can compete there
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  Speaker 1: with the with the Panthers and the Bucks there and
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  Speaker 1: the NFC South all of a sudden looks pretty interesting
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  Speaker 1: to me after kind of years of being you know,
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  Speaker 1: very mid How about the Bills, Craig they get they
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  Speaker 1: trade for DJ Moore. This is probably their best overall
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver since since Defon Diggs was Yeah, do you
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  Speaker 1: expect that to have a big, big impact on their offense?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you would assume it would.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he is a professional receiver and for a
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  Speaker 3: number of years he was a number one receiver on Carolina.
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  Speaker 3: He may not be that big time number one, but
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  Speaker 3: for them he will be. And he's a good receiver.
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  Speaker 3: I mean he you know, they didn't have receivers and
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  Speaker 3: I really like Shakir, but he's not a number one,
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  Speaker 3: you know, So and we'll see. You know, one thing
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  Speaker 3: I'm really curious to see is, you know, Joe Brady
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  Speaker 3: has a lot of experience, and you wonder, I mean
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  Speaker 3: I wonder. I don't know the answer to this. You
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  Speaker 3: don't know when you have a defensive head coach and
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  Speaker 3: Sean McDermott, what the relationship is between Sean McDermott and
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  Speaker 3: Joe Brady. You know, Joe Brady now being the head coach,
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  Speaker 3: do we start to see an expansion of offensive concepts.
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  Speaker 3: Don't forget he was with Sean Payton, you know, for
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  Speaker 3: two years before he got the LSU job.
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  Speaker 2: You know, so.
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  Speaker 3: He's been with really good people. So now that he's
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  Speaker 3: in charge, do we do it? You know, they've been
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  Speaker 3: really big on Oh we're going to be you know,
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  Speaker 3: have a great ratio of run to pass. They've been
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  Speaker 3: about fifty percent the last couple of years. Does that
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  Speaker 3: go out the window now that they become much more
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  Speaker 3: of a passing team? I mean, obviously they've got a
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  Speaker 3: pretty good quarterback. So do they become more of a
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  Speaker 3: passing team now that they have more I'm not saying
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  Speaker 3: they don't, you know, they give up on James Cook.
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  Speaker 3: It's not as if he's not a factor at all,
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  Speaker 3: but it seemed like they they were one of the
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  Speaker 3: strongest run first teams in the league the last couple
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  Speaker 3: of years. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, sort of felt like a caged animal with I mean, now,
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned Sean Payton, but he's also talked about the
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  Speaker 1: influence of Joe Morehead when he was at Penn State,
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  Speaker 1: and Morehead was a guy I mean, Penncey had his
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  Speaker 1: best offense in like decades under I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean, keep in mind, you know, again, the Broncos with
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  Speaker 3: Sean Payton this past year did not have that kind
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  Speaker 3: of running back like James Cook. But but bo Nicks
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  Speaker 3: had the most drop backs of any quarterback in the
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  Speaker 3: league this year. So I'm not saying that Josh Allen's
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  Speaker 3: gonna have the most dropbacks of any quarterback in the league.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying I wonder if they're there, their ratio
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  Speaker 3: is going to change a little bit now that that
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  Speaker 3: Joe Brady is in charge.
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  Speaker 4: Right Well, if you looked at We've talked this before
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  Speaker 4: about the Bills receivers, as someone I respect told me
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  Speaker 4: he goes through that they've got a bunch of number
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  Speaker 4: threees and I love that line because they don't have
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  Speaker 4: a starting receiver. Now they have a starting receiver Jeff
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  Speaker 4: so at least.
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  Speaker 5: That could go on.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, now Morris numbers were down less seas,
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  Speaker 4: but he's playing with the young he had been playing
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  Speaker 4: with a young quarterback. I'll be interested to see what
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  Speaker 4: the past target group looks like. Is it totally is
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  Speaker 4: very very heavy to him. Probably they traded for him,
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  Speaker 4: but they've got tight ends who could play.
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  Speaker 5: Yep, Shakira is a nice see. Kaku is a.
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  Speaker 3: Good player who was stuck in his system that well,
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  Speaker 3: they didn't throw it a lot. I mean, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: saying Shakira is great. You know, he's obviously not at
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  Speaker 3: number one, but I think he's close to being a
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  Speaker 3: two if you have a good one, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: now we don't know exactly what more is right at
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  Speaker 3: this point in his career.
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  Speaker 5: For them, he's a big upgrade.
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  Speaker 3: But we don't know what he is if you're just
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  Speaker 3: doing him as an abstraction in a vacuum. But for
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  Speaker 3: the Bills, he's a big upgrade. That's the bottom mine.
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  Speaker 4: They didn't have anybody right, I mean, they got Josh
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  Speaker 4: Palmer was hurt almost the entire season. They have enough
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  Speaker 4: now to compete with the passing game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Greg stay going back to the division with the Giants.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we know that John Harbaugh for eighteen years
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  Speaker 1: in Baltimore was basically you know, a lot of tight ends,
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  Speaker 1: especially over the last few years, a lot of twelve personnel. Now,
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: they bring Isaiah Likely in from Baltimore. They have Theo Johnson.
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  Speaker 1: They re signed Chris man Hurtz I believe, so they've
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  Speaker 1: got some tight ends there. But they also have Milik
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  Speaker 1: Neighbors coming back. They lose wan Dale Robinson to the Titans.
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  Speaker 1: Does this start to look like a ravens Ish offense
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  Speaker 1: in New York with multiple tight ends.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: They also just signed Patrick Riccard, so it's right. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you know, again, I'm not gonna make a value judgment here.
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  Speaker 2: This is what they believe.
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  Speaker 3: But I doubt they signed Patrick Riccard to play three
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  Speaker 3: snaps a game. So you know, I think you're going
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  Speaker 3: to see a base offense. I mean, you know that.
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  Speaker 3: That's look. I mean, I know, I know Matt Naggi's
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  Speaker 3: the OC, but it seems like you know that again,
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  Speaker 3: we're not there.
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  Speaker 2: But if you bring in Patrick Riccard, aren't you.
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  Speaker 3: Gonna play a lot of twenty you know you're gonna
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  Speaker 3: be on the field, you know, twenty snaps a game
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  Speaker 3: or fifteen or twenty snaps the game.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, if you bring him in, I mean, why are
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: you signing him?
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  Speaker 3: So you know, I would assume that you're going to
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  Speaker 3: see a lot of base personnel until they get to
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  Speaker 3: you know, those pure pass and third down situations.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're card. I'd have to look at Maggie's career.
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  Speaker 4: I don't remember that him having much work with the
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  Speaker 4: fullback obviously Roman did, but Roman's not calling the place.
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  Speaker 4: So it's it's gonna be a change here. But the
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  Speaker 4: Jeff the Giants, they brought back Jermaine a Luminor. We
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  Speaker 4: just talked about kind of who they brought in their
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  Speaker 4: offensive line. To me is what's held them up. It's
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: Andrew Thomas and his injury history. It's they're okay, Lumros
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  Speaker 4: back at right tackle, right guards is up and then
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  Speaker 4: Neighbors coming back from the acel.
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  Speaker 5: You got to see how he moves back from that injury.
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  Speaker 4: But they've got the makings if they could get the
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  Speaker 4: offensive line to just to take the next level.
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  Speaker 5: Yep, and Scattabow is back.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's a big it's a bad injury, but
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: he'll he'll be ready to go for training camp well
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  Speaker 4: before that.
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  Speaker 5: There's something here with this offense here. It's gonna be fascinating.
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  Speaker 3: Because, yeah, who they to be a tackle and now
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: he's basically competing at a guard spot. So you know,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, you have to assume they're gonna play
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  Speaker 3: a lot at a base personnel.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that Naggy and Chicago didn't do that,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean, I think he's gonna have to go
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  Speaker 1: back just based on the personnel and what you do best.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna have to go back to his pre Chicago,
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  Speaker 1: his early Andy Reid days of using the two tight ends,
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  Speaker 1: the full back, and I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean they got they got like Theo Johnson I think
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  Speaker 3: is a pretty good player.
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  Speaker 2: And now they have like Lean Johnson. They have Man Hurts,
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: who's a good blocker.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's why he's in the league, and that's
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  Speaker 3: why he's been in the league for what ten years already?
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: At him, I mean the guy Yead he's played forever
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: because he fills a row. You know, in some ways,
• 17:43
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  Speaker 4: Hey, staying in the receiver position, I just want to
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  Speaker 4: talk about Romeo Dobbs with I love this signing. I
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  Speaker 4: know they're excited about it. What are your thoughts with
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: Dobbs and the poll?
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  Speaker 3: They obviously needed receivers and you you know, there's there's
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: totally different philosophies with young quarterbacks. Some teams believe that, hey,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: you got to really surround him with players. Other teams believe, hey,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: let's get a great defense because then he doesn't have
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: to score a lot of points. I mean, there's different philosophies.
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  Speaker 3: You know, there's no right or wrong. I'm of the
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  Speaker 3: philosophy again, just my pointless point of view that you
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  Speaker 3: Like That's why what I think doesn't matter for Tennessee.
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  Speaker 3: But if I was Tennessee, I would take care of
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: my I love it for but that's just me. But anyway, Uh,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: you know, I think that the Patriots needed receivers. They
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: lost Diggs, who you know, had a very good year
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: for them. Say what you want, he had a very
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: good season. He's a professional receiver.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: Dobbs is a good receiver. They needed a wide receiver.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: You know, it's that's a good move. And I think
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Keishaun Booty is a good player. You know, he was
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: an interesting guy because he had all kinds of troubles
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: and college after his freshman year, personal things, character issues.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, the status of all that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I know that that Mike Rabel is a pretty intense,
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  Speaker 3: you know, tough head coach that you know, I'm sure
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: if conversations there need to be had, Rabel's gonna have him.
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  Speaker 3: He's not He's not a standoffish guy. You know, he's
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: gonna have So, you know, I think it's a really
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: good signing. I've always liked do Obs. I liked him
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: for coming out of college.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if they don't wind
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: up trading for AJ or do much more if it
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: is Kyle Williams ready to take a bigger step in
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: year two, because it feels like they lack that true X.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Dobbs is not an X.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: He's a movie not he can but not like you know,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: not your class right now. I know they really like
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Kyle Williams, but he's not an EX. But I know
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: they really like him, So maybe he takes a big
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: jump from his rookie year to a second year.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, along the same lines of uh, you know,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: needing an ex.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: Greg.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: So last year when the Steelers traded for Metcalf, I
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: think we all talked about, well, how are you gonna
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: make it work with Metcalf and George Pickens because they
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: who's not the ex? Is the question? And then of
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: course they trade picks of Dallas. And now the Steelers
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: trade for Pittman after the Colts resigned Alec Pearce, and
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: you've got Metcalf and Pittman, and I find myself asking
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: the same questions. Unless I'm I'm off based on this,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: don't these both kind.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Of your I don't think Pittman is an ex No, okay, uh,
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: well that's put this way. I don't think that's his
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: best spy. So I think Metcalf will be the X,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: and I think Pittman will be kind of the movement Z.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: He's a big guy though, right, Pittman's a pretty yah.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Well, they've got two big guys at Metcalf and Pittman.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: They've got a basketball team there. Yeah, you know, but
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: I but Pittman, Pittman is is not going to be now,
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: depending on given formations, can he be sure? But I
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: don't think in terms of foundationally, I think Metcalf will
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: be the X and Pittman.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Will be the Z, and then he'll be a movement guy.
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: One more thing on the Steels receivers.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: Their thought process is they're going to give Rowan Wilson
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: a better shot to.
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: Be the three.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: The former staff did not like him, but they just
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: were down on him. But the feeling here is Adam Henry.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: If you might remember the receivers coach used to be
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: with the Giants and the Rag he was with the Bills.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Is he now with Pittsburgh.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he actually coached OBJ and j L.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, Adam he's he's a good coach.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a good coach.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: So their hope because they feel like Robin Wilson could separate.
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: He just never really got it.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: He got hurt, and Tomlin and others got down on
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: him because he just didn't get a chance.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Well, Wilson has I remember doing Wilson coming out of Michigan. He's,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: he's he's got some juice to him. I mean, he
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: would fit well if he could be the number three
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: there and and really win that job at him. You know,
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: he's got some juice.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Right right, all right, very interesting stuff. Oh, I guess
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: we should also. I mean Wandelle Robinson's fit in Tennessee
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: and I guess he becomes sort of their volume middle
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: of the field receiver.
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, Wandelle Robinson had the most targets in
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: the slot from any receiver in the league last year.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: That's who he is now again, Now you get into
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: you know, and this is where the league's going. You
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: get into teams now with so much pre snap movement.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's a slot He's obviously not gonna line
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: up static on the outside, but with pre snap movement,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: with things like that, he can release as from the
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: outside off movement, but he's not gonna line up as
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: a static outside receiver. But they really like their two rookies.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Iomano played X last year quite a bit, almost as
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: much as any receiver in the league. He lined up
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: as the boundary X. And they really like DK who's
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: kind of a movement guy. So you know, you know,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: they they feel like I'm sure that they have, you know,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: some pieces in place, and you know, the old line
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: it got a little bit better for them as the
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: season progressed. That's why to me, you know, and they've
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: addressed defense big time in free agency, so to me,
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: you know, I would take Jeremiah Love, but you know,
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: I doubt, I doubt they're gonna call me and ask
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: my opinion on that.
• 24:58
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