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SPECIAL Jay Ratliff Aviation Report · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: I'm KRZ Deep Talk Station. Have you ever been in
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  Speaker 1: the cockpit before it? Yes, I heard me, The avah
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  Speaker 1: extpert Jay Ratliff has many times and we get the
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  Speaker 1: blessings of Jay Ratlift and his aviation report every Thursday
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  Speaker 1: at a thirty here and the thinty five KRC Morning Show.
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  Speaker 1: And in those times of need, he's willing to join
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  Speaker 1: us on short notice, which he was kind enough to
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  Speaker 1: do this morning to talk about two things. First off,
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  Speaker 1: LaGuardia Airport and second off the whole problem we have
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  Speaker 1: with TSA. Welcome back, Jay Ratliffe, thank you so much
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  Speaker 1: for joining us late in the game.
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  Speaker 2: Well, anytime you need me, you know that if I'm available, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm here.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's a good qualification because you are in high demand.
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  Speaker 1: When it hits the fan, and of course let's start
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  Speaker 1: with the Guardi Airport where it definitely has hit the fan.
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  Speaker 1: We had an Air Canada flight run into a fire
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  Speaker 1: truck and it looks like the airplane lost the battle.
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  Speaker 1: Jay Ratliffe, what's going on here? What have we learned?
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  Speaker 1: I understand that two pilots are dead and looking at
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  Speaker 1: the damage, that comes as no shock to me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was an arriving Air Canada flight. It was
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  Speaker 2: a regional jet, one of the Bombardier CRG nine hundreds.
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  Speaker 2: It was landing just before midnight last night at LaGuardia
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  Speaker 2: and as they were landing and slowing coming up towards
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  Speaker 2: the end of the runway, they stowed some considerable speed
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  Speaker 2: and the aircraft collided with fuel truck. Now, anytime you're
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  Speaker 2: at an airport, any ground vehicle has to request permission
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  Speaker 2: from air traffic control to cross a runway. This fire
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  Speaker 2: truck did just that. They requested permission across the runway,
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  Speaker 2: they were given permission to do so. Moments after that
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  Speaker 2: permission was granted, air traffic control comes back and says stop, stop, stop,
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  Speaker 2: trying to get the fire truck to stop. Sadly, they
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  Speaker 2: did not do so in time, so we don't know
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  Speaker 2: what happened other than in fact, we had seventy two
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  Speaker 2: passengers on board the aircraft for crew member. We had
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  Speaker 2: the two pilots that were killed. Forty one I believe
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  Speaker 2: were taken to the hospital. Thirty two release nine are
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  Speaker 2: listed in serious condition. The two individuals were being told
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  Speaker 2: in the fire truck injured but non life threatening injuries.
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  Speaker 2: There so the NTSB's arrived, they're going to find out
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  Speaker 2: exactly what happened. Everybody involves going to be drug tested,
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  Speaker 2: looked at the training to look at the maintenance of
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  Speaker 2: the aircraft, to make sure the brakes were, you know,
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  Speaker 2: doing what they were supposed to be doing. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: we'll see if it was a simple matter of a
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  Speaker 2: human mistake or if there was mechanical situations or anything
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  Speaker 2: else that might have impacted this. And you know, we'll
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  Speaker 2: get a briefing in like seven days and then thirty days,
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  Speaker 2: and then the final report will be eight to twelve
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  Speaker 2: months out. But you know, Brian, you just we've talked
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  Speaker 2: about these runway incursions over the last several months. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and they seem to be growing in number. And here's
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  Speaker 2: the situation where, you know, the aircraft was at a
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  Speaker 2: point on the runway where they had no options. You're
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  Speaker 2: nearing the end of the runway. You passed the point
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  Speaker 2: of no return where you can't power up and go around.
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  Speaker 2: According to the passengers that were interviewed, they those that
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  Speaker 2: fly a lot said it was obvious they were trying
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  Speaker 2: to stop much faster than usual, and the airplane was
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  Speaker 2: swerving a bit before impact, and sadly the crew saw
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  Speaker 2: the fire truck. Obviously they're doing what they can, but
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  Speaker 2: they have limited mobility as far as that aircraft. It's
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  Speaker 2: simply not designed to you know, be a zero turn
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  Speaker 2: raider on that, so it takes time to stop. And
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  Speaker 2: sadly they had they had few options. And yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: the whole well, the whole front's ripped off of the aircraft.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, the airplane is designed with high strength
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  Speaker 2: in essence aluminum, if you will, and it collides with
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  Speaker 2: a steel truck. I mean, you know who's going to
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  Speaker 2: win the battle there? And uh, you know, on that
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  Speaker 2: front comes off. The aircraft itself just tips up and
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  Speaker 2: you see that the picture that's there. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: you just you hope that we can find out what happens.
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  Speaker 2: So as always we say this that we can honor
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  Speaker 2: the lives of those that were lost by trying to
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  Speaker 2: learn what happened and then do whatever we can humanly
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  Speaker 2: speaking to prevent it from happening again. And of course
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  Speaker 2: they've closed the airport which only has two runways, until
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  Speaker 2: I believe two o'clock this afternoon to make sure that
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  Speaker 2: the investigation can go forward and that they can remove
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  Speaker 2: everything that needs to be removed before they can resume
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  Speaker 2: flight activity. And yeah, we'll wait to see what the
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  Speaker 2: answer is that the NTSB gives us. They will do
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  Speaker 2: a thorough job as they always do, and we'll find
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  Speaker 2: out what happened.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, we certainly will. And I guess that the interesting
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  Speaker 1: thing is when people say what they want about it.
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  Speaker 1: But I find it unusual to observe that people are
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  Speaker 1: using the airplane and the damage that was done to
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  Speaker 1: the airplane and running into a fire truck at some
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  Speaker 1: low rate of speed. He didn't say what speed. I've
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  Speaker 1: heard around twenty five or so miles an hour ja eight.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm hearing the same.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's proof that the airplane could not have flown
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  Speaker 1: into the trade center and brought it down, because look
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  Speaker 1: how flimsy the airplane is against the truck.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, something at a much higher speed.
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  Speaker 1: Fuel thing that came in my mind, a really high
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  Speaker 1: rated feed and a lot of airplane fuel in that anyway,
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  Speaker 1: And the other interesting component of this I read that
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  Speaker 1: a female flight attendant was ejected through the front of
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  Speaker 1: that aircraft while she was still in her seat during
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  Speaker 1: the crash, and she survived. Holy cow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if if that's accurate. And when you look at
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  Speaker 2: the when you look at the fact that the whole
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  Speaker 2: front of the airplane is missing, you know, you have
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  Speaker 2: a flight attendant that's positioned at the emergency door in
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  Speaker 2: that seat that the jump seat there right at the
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  Speaker 2: front of the airplane. So if everything behind her disappears,
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  Speaker 2: it's very possible she could be thrown out of that
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  Speaker 2: open area. So you know, hopefully, you know, her recovery
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  Speaker 2: will be uh will be okay from there, But we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna hear story after story after story from this,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, you've already got people that are pointing
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  Speaker 2: the fingers and this is is predictable as it is
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  Speaker 2: ridiculous and infuriating that they're immediately trying to make get political.
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  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, they probably didn't have enough air traffic controllers in
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  Speaker 2: the tower, which means it's obviously President Trump's fault. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm very quick to blow the whistle and say time out. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: no no. We've had an air traffic control or shortage
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  Speaker 2: for decades, go back over several administrations. And if you're
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  Speaker 2: going to cast blame, if there is blame on any
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  Speaker 2: shortage of any air traffic controllers. It's not a Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump issue. It's an issue that has taken well, I
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  Speaker 2: would say, yeah, he was president for four years and
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  Speaker 2: it was an issue then, so but we had other
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  Speaker 2: challenges back then. But we've you know, we've had presidents
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  Speaker 2: for the last twenty years that have identified, yeah, we
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  Speaker 2: need to do something, and then they don't do anything
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  Speaker 2: about it. President Trump has said it is an issue,
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  Speaker 2: We're going to get it resolved, and he's tried to
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  Speaker 2: move things forward to make that happen. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: just the part of the politicians that look for events
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  Speaker 2: to use for political fodder, especially when there's a loss
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  Speaker 2: of life annoys me beyond my ability to express it.
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  Speaker 1: Or a persistent problem across different administrations of different political
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  Speaker 1: stripes that continues to exist after decades. Jay Ratt left. There,
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  Speaker 1: You have it. Our elected officials rarely serve our best interest.
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  Speaker 1: Pause will bring Jay back and talk about the TSA shortage,
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  Speaker 1: of course, a political reality. They're not getting paid, so
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  Speaker 1: they're not going to show up to work. Not shocking anyone,
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  Speaker 1: but causing a lot of headaches from the American public
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  Speaker 1: and probably devastating for the airlines profits. I want to
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  Speaker 1: get into comment on that as well more with Jay
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  Speaker 1: it's not Thursday, it's a Monday edition of I Heard
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  Speaker 1: Me the Aviation Expert, Jay Ratloft talk. And today we're
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  Speaker 1: going to move over on this topic to talk about
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  Speaker 1: the TSA. Of course, with the government not funding TSA,
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  Speaker 1: agents are not being paid starting salary fifty grand, and
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  Speaker 1: I can certainly understand maybe a lot of them living
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  Speaker 1: paycheck to paycheck, so you miss one and you've gotten
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  Speaker 1: ready to miss the second one to pursue your options,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of them are doing that. And Sehn
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  Speaker 1: Duffy just announced yesterday that he expects it to get
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  Speaker 1: a lot worse if the government doesn't open back up.
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  Speaker 1: And so Donald Trump suggested putting ICE agents into place
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  Speaker 1: to certain TSA agents. Is that a logical reaction, Jay Ratliff,
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  Speaker 1: or a logical response to that? Will the ICE agents
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  Speaker 1: be able to effectively do the TSA agent's job.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll be able to assist in a manner that
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  Speaker 2: will allow the screening process to resume a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more of a normal flow. And it was great to
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  Speaker 2: see because we do have highly trained government employees that
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  Speaker 2: can come in and assist, and because of the fact
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  Speaker 2: of the duties that are involved, the technology that's there,
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  Speaker 2: there'll be some things they can do, some things they can't.
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  Speaker 2: But the idea of having extra hands and all hands
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  Speaker 2: on deck is certainly going to help, especially some of
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  Speaker 2: these airports that we're seeing some of these incredibly long lines. Now, logistically,
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  Speaker 2: it's a great move by the President, and politically I
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  Speaker 2: think it's a great move. Yet a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: Democrats that we're seeing the long lines and rejoicing in
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  Speaker 2: the fact that there were pain at the airport by
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  Speaker 2: these passengers, thinking this is going to help us using
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  Speaker 2: passengers as political you know pieces again, and President Trump says, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: you won't, because what I'm going to do is deploy
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  Speaker 2: ice so that we're going to alleviate that so those
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  Speaker 2: lines will be reduced considerably and we'll get closer to
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  Speaker 2: a normal operation again, thwarting their efforts to try to
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  Speaker 2: use the problems at the airport as you know political
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  Speaker 2: gain type of thing which happens far, far, far far
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  Speaker 2: too often. But I like it. It's a good move.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a permanent move, but you know, hopefully we
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  Speaker 2: can get everything back so that we can get these
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  Speaker 2: these men and women paid, because look, there the front
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  Speaker 2: line of defense for our aviation network. We've got to
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  Speaker 2: make sure that they are paid and well treated. And
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  Speaker 2: the idea that there's no urgency seemingly attached to what's
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  Speaker 2: going on. They seem like the forgotten step children. And
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  Speaker 2: that's I don't blame them, absolutely don't.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and I weren't the TSAG is put in place
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  Speaker 1: because of nine to eleven.
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  Speaker 2: Jay, Well, they were put in place because we needed
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  Speaker 2: to make the country feel better because nine to eleven
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  Speaker 2: was not a situation where it was a breakdown in
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  Speaker 2: security at all. But the thought was if we had
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  Speaker 2: this uniformed government, you know, presence, it would make things
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  Speaker 2: more effective. I totally disagreed with it, and I could
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  Speaker 2: not believe President Trump created a separate, you know, a
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  Speaker 2: government group here of fifty thousand plus that we're going
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  Speaker 2: to be you know, adding more government jobs. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: the thought was, just like we put the National Guard
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  Speaker 2: at the airport when flights resumed after those four days
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  Speaker 2: of inactivity. For what I mean, it was nothing more
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  Speaker 2: than the presence of the military to make us feel better,
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  Speaker 2: even though again the attacks had nothing to do with
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  Speaker 2: the breakdown in security. So there was actually talk early
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  Speaker 2: on when President Trump took over, do we even need
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  Speaker 2: the TSA anymore? Can we go back to a private
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  Speaker 2: security firms across the country? Uh? I think that genie
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  Speaker 2: is out of the bottom and go back. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because we still see the inconsistencies with the TSA that
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  Speaker 2: we had when when we had private organizations as well.
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  Speaker 1: That's good point. And I just have to observe that
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  Speaker 1: we're in the middle of a shooting war with one
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  Speaker 1: of the world's largest sponsors of terrorism and not having
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  Speaker 1: a TSA presence ere a reduced one. I think may
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  Speaker 1: come back to haunt the Democrats. God forbid the the
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  Speaker 1: air airports are attacked in some way by someone for
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  Speaker 1: one of a TSA agent. Don't know if that's actually
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  Speaker 1: going to happen. I pray it doesn't, but it seems
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  Speaker 1: to be a challenge there now, how about it?
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  Speaker 2: You're right, yeah, yeah, little time will be spent or
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  Speaker 2: wasted if something like that happens to immediately shift blame,
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  Speaker 2: which is what you have to do when you're guilty
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  Speaker 2: of doing nothing for it forever. And your whole job
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  Speaker 2: is how can I stay in af US? In what
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  Speaker 2: crisis can I use to help me stay here? It's
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  Speaker 2: just I get so irritated on both sides in the
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  Speaker 2: aisle within activity of things getting done, you know, just
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  Speaker 2: like you know, thirty nine trillion, congratulations the national depth
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  Speaker 2: After five months we went from thirty eight to thirty nine.
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  Speaker 2: Thirty three months later, we'll be at forty.
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  Speaker 1: Wait at a one thousand billion dollars in five months.
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  Speaker 1: That's great, real quick here, how much training do the
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  Speaker 1: TSA agents go through. It's not like going through police
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  Speaker 1: academy where you got like six months and that kind
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  Speaker 1: of thing. At least I'm guessing. But insofar as ICE agents,
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  Speaker 1: I think they can sit and monitor, like for example,
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  Speaker 1: the do not enter door that does not take a
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  Speaker 1: college degree or even a high school degree. You can
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  Speaker 1: sit it a chair and say no, you're not allowed
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  Speaker 1: to come through here. So an ICE agent could certainly
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  Speaker 1: handle that. But TSA training, I mean, what what what
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  Speaker 1: risk do we run putting an ICE person where a
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  Speaker 1: TSA person would be.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you could also put somebody at the point where
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  Speaker 2: they're well greeting and bringing people in and because that
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  Speaker 2: is a less technical position as you mentioned, guarding the
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  Speaker 2: exit ramps as well as far as the positioning at
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  Speaker 2: the security checkpoint. And it's been a while since I've
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  Speaker 2: seen the start to finish time of a TSA agent,
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  Speaker 2: but there's enough that we could bring them into some
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  Speaker 2: of the areas that require less training. They're more of
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  Speaker 2: an assist type situation. And again, these individuals have been
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  Speaker 2: trained in law enforcement, where the TSA officers we call them,
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  Speaker 2: have not. Because even though the TSA employees look like
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  Speaker 2: police officers, they're not. They have no law enforcement power whatsoever.
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  Speaker 2: We gave them the uniforms because the morale was low,
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  Speaker 2: and we decided to give them uniforms at one thousand
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  Speaker 2: dollars a pop, many many years ago to give them
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  Speaker 2: a better look, more law enforcement, hopefully better respect less
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  Speaker 2: issues and that would help the morale. It didn't. So
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  Speaker 2: then they said give them more money, that will help
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  Speaker 2: them morale. It didn't. You know, we we've tried everything
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  Speaker 2: we can. But back to your question forgive me is
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, the ICE agents are better prepared in many
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  Speaker 2: regards to be in a position, especially when things become
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  Speaker 2: even though they're not there for law enforcement, they're only
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  Speaker 2: acting the TSA role because that always defers back to
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  Speaker 2: the airport police when you've got a situation at the airport.
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  Speaker 2: But I am totally okay with having these men and
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  Speaker 2: women train there, and I love the fact that they're
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  Speaker 2: going to help alleviate some of these issues, which again
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  Speaker 2: some of the Democrats were actually celebrating these yeah image
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  Speaker 2: reports of how bad things were and whose fault it was.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, their constituents suffering for one of funding great Jay Ratley,
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  Speaker 1: well they.
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  Speaker 2: Well they continue to get paid, working and well being president.
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  Speaker 2: Well sometimes yeah, having the title of.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I get we all get where you're going,
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  Speaker 1: Jay Ratlick, God bless you. Look forward to eight thirty
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  Speaker 1: on Thursday. We'll bring it back and