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The OG and The New Guy · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with her radio. Hey Bob, Hey,
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Speaker 1: how you doing? Man? Good? Nice to meet you, well,
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Speaker 1: nice to meet Where are you? Nice to meet you too.
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Speaker 1: Where are you right now? I'm in California right now
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Speaker 1: seeing some family. Oh very nice? Is this where you're
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Speaker 1: from originally? Or yeah? Originally from my Anaheim? So southern
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Speaker 1: California boy, and uh then just been living in Texas.
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Speaker 1: But come on, everybody else tries to move to California,
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Speaker 1: you move away, look at you exactly. I'm in Austin,
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Speaker 1: um right now, keeping it weird in Austin. Ye've been
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Speaker 1: isn't that the isn't that what they say? Oh, I've
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Speaker 1: been a ton. Yeah. I used to go to south
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Speaker 1: By Southwest all the time. I loved it. Yeah, is
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Speaker 1: fun a cl all those wild events. So Zach, you
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Speaker 1: need to know they're calling this o G and the
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Speaker 1: new Guy? Did you know that? I like it? First
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Speaker 1: and foremost? Did you even ever even hear of my
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Speaker 1: season of the Bachelor? So my name is Bob Guinny.
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Speaker 1: I was Bachelor's season four trist Wren's reject who was
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Speaker 1: given its own season of the show disastrous season. By
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Speaker 1: the way, did you happen to see that one. No,
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Speaker 1: I haven't watched I haven't watched much of any uh
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Speaker 1: of any of the previous Bachelor's seasons, to be honest,
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Speaker 1: but you know I did my research on you a
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Speaker 1: little bit. I did you're the Bachelor before Jesse? Yes? Yes,
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Speaker 1: And Jesse is a good friend of mine. I paved
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Speaker 1: the road for that, man, I will tell you. Suggest
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Speaker 1: and I have a lot of mutual friends, and um,
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Speaker 1: oddly enough, I mean I really like him, but we've
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Speaker 1: never actually hung out in person like we've met. I
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Speaker 1: think we met a few times, like very briefly, and um,
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Speaker 1: but I think he's doing a great job as a
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Speaker 1: host of the show. I'm glad you guys are friends.
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Speaker 1: It's it makes it easier, right to navigate that whole thing. Well,
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you know, you walked so he
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Speaker 1: could run, so honestly, like he has so tell you, buddy,
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Speaker 1: Uh No, it was. It was great having Jesse's support.
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Speaker 1: I mean I got to know him a little bit
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Speaker 1: on the Bachelorette, you know, here and there when we're traveling.
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Speaker 1: But then we really had the chance obviously this season
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Speaker 1: because we're together a lot and you know, he always had,
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Speaker 1: you know, pieces of advice and just always was someone
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Speaker 1: to talk to constantly, and and you know, he would
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Speaker 1: give me full feedback and bounce ideas and we do
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Speaker 1: that back and forth quite a bit. But him and
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Speaker 1: I are pretty similar, like with the sports background. So
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Speaker 1: half the time I was just talking about football. Talk
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Speaker 1: to your sports background. I didn't know that I played
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Speaker 1: college football, UM which cal Pauly, Yeah, I know it. Well. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so I played there for five years. It was an
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Speaker 1: offensive lineman, so never really got to touch the ball
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Speaker 1: or do any cool things in the end zone. But
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Speaker 1: still love football to death. And him and I just
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Speaker 1: really talked about that a lot. Oh that's great. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I played college football too. I played Michigan eight UM.
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Speaker 1: Much like Jesse. I was a quarterback. Unlike Jesse, I
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Speaker 1: didn't play. But it's nice, uh that one of us
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Speaker 1: of the three, or I guess two of us are
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Speaker 1: the three. Actually we're players. Now I feel really bad
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Speaker 1: about myself. Let's move on. Let's not talk about sports anymore,
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Speaker 1: all right, So let's talk about first and foremost. Um.
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Speaker 1: You brought it up about Um that you know you
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Speaker 1: had met him when you were on the Bachelotte. So
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Speaker 1: you were on the season the first season, I believe
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Speaker 1: where we had two bachelorettes, right, we had Rachel and Gabby.
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Speaker 1: It was a second season, like I said, you were
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Speaker 1: on the second season where we had two bachelorets with
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Speaker 1: Rachel and Gaby. So I mean the first thing that
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Speaker 1: goes once you're an old bachelor, your memory is the
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Speaker 1: first thing that you lose. Um, So, how was that experience?
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Speaker 1: And like, I mean you you chose to be in
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Speaker 1: the Rachel camp. Correct? Correct? Correct? I mean that would
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Speaker 1: be an awkward experience. I would think that that's it
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Speaker 1: just seems weird to me. Well, it definitely was, uh,
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Speaker 1: since it was still a first experience altogether, you know,
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Speaker 1: the first time ever being in this world, and and
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Speaker 1: it was you know, unique, but it was all I knew.
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Speaker 1: So I didn't know what it would look like with
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Speaker 1: just one bachelor it really but um, at first it
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Speaker 1: was a little interesting. Didn't know how to um, like
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Speaker 1: I said, approached something like this. But for my case,
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Speaker 1: it was real apparent very early that Rachel and I
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Speaker 1: did have a connection to where it was like, okay,
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Speaker 1: it almost doesn't matter, um that there's this two person dynamic,
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Speaker 1: but for many it did cause issues. So I could imagine. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean that I couldn't even I got out of
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Speaker 1: the limit with Trista, so it was all eyes on,
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Speaker 1: you know, one person, and at least you knew this
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Speaker 1: is the person I'm gonna you know, be trying to
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Speaker 1: figure out how to get to know her and everything else.
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Speaker 1: I mean you had a little different dynamic going on. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: well with with Rachel. I mean it was a few
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Speaker 1: days in to the event, but like not the event,
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Speaker 1: the experience, but you talking about walking out of the
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Speaker 1: lima and just being like shocked and you know, nervous
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Speaker 1: with all the cameras and you're at the mansion and
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Speaker 1: then you have two very beautiful women right in front
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Speaker 1: of you that is terrified and you're like, okay, here's
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Speaker 1: my one shot. You know, at least remember my name.
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Speaker 1: And I couldn't even remember my own name. I actually
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Speaker 1: forgot it and uh totally you know, shop the bet
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Speaker 1: on that one. But I do that often. So but
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Speaker 1: it's my age more so, so let me ask you this, like,
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Speaker 1: when you get out of the lima, do you do anything,
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Speaker 1: because I know people do stuff, right they get out
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Speaker 1: of the car. They try to do something to make
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Speaker 1: themselves memorable. Did you do anything that made you memorable
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Speaker 1: in that moment? Not at all, Not at all. Actually,
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Speaker 1: you know, leading up to it, I was, you know,
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Speaker 1: trying to think of something creative or something fun, like
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Speaker 1: for something wild, because that's you know, what people typically do,
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Speaker 1: and I I'm someone that just like I think I
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Speaker 1: got in my own head. I was so nervous. Um Like,
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Speaker 1: I saw the cameras and I just like freaked out
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Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, I think the
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Speaker 1: best way for me, you know, to give this a
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Speaker 1: fair shot is just be myself and meet the women
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Speaker 1: you know, as they are as I am, and not
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Speaker 1: do any kind of you know, gimmicks or anything like that.
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Speaker 1: And you know, through conversation hopefully that we'll have, you'll
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Speaker 1: get to know me. But I mean I still went
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Speaker 1: up there. I couldn't tell you what I actually said.
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Speaker 1: It was all a blur. And uh, I mean it
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Speaker 1: kept me around at least night one, right, So yeah,
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Speaker 1: well they kept a lot longer than that actually right now, Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: quite quite some time after. But for you, remember what
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Speaker 1: your limo entrance was when you were on the Bachelor. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know, I was. I was basic, man, I mean
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Speaker 1: it was it was actually what I did inside the
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Speaker 1: mansion that sort of went next level. But we you know,
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Speaker 1: this was so early on when I was on the
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Speaker 1: show that no one really had a gimmick. In fact,
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Speaker 1: I was just telling the producers here tonight that the
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Speaker 1: guy that got out of the car with something special,
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Speaker 1: which was actually quite nice. Um, he had gone to Tiffany's.
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Speaker 1: He had gotten this you know bracelet and you know,
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Speaker 1: engraved with Trista's name on it, and we all looked
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Speaker 1: at him like he was just the devil. I mean
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Speaker 1: I remember thinking this guy, like, where's his head, man,
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Speaker 1: what's he doing? And um, it was it was almost
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Speaker 1: I think, probably jealousy more than anything that he had
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Speaker 1: thought of something that we didn't. But it was one
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Speaker 1: of those things where you know, and he almost he
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Speaker 1: kind of became the villain of the season, frankly, um,
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Speaker 1: because none of us had anything else going in the
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Speaker 1: front door. You know, we were all just like, Hi,
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Speaker 1: I'm Bob, nice to meet you. Um. Now, granted, once
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Speaker 1: we got inside, uh, you know, there's there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of stories about that one. I mean, I I was
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Speaker 1: you know, bringing up my my study of martial arts. Uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, which I which I did extensively. Uh. I
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Speaker 1: was doing TIBO at the time with Billy Blanks. Uh.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's a big deal as an infomercial. It
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Speaker 1: was probably outdated, but it was at the time. It
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Speaker 1: was a spectacular exercise regimen um and I just thought
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Speaker 1: it really made me somebody special. But it was funny.
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Speaker 1: We I mean, we were just a bunch of dudes
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Speaker 1: hanging out. And I think that was what made our
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Speaker 1: show special at the time, was the guys got along
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Speaker 1: so great and we weren't caddy with one another. It
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Speaker 1: was a very different environment at that time. How was
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Speaker 1: it with you, Like, what what was your dynamic with
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Speaker 1: the guys Once you're all in the house, everyone's sort
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Speaker 1: of hanging out. I mean, did you guys get along
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Speaker 1: or was it immediately something you know, a little friction
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Speaker 1: going on or anything like that. I mean, I'd say
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Speaker 1: for the most part, Uh, everyone got along. I think
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Speaker 1: everyone recognizes that it's such a crazy experience going on
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Speaker 1: and you're trying to just take it in and you
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Speaker 1: almost look four friends in this. Yeah, I think you
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Speaker 1: have the only one that's freaking out right now. Actually,
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Speaker 1: very early on, UM established a bunch of friends. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, one in particular was was Nate, and Nate
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Speaker 1: was you know on that past season. And there was
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Speaker 1: a moment that night when we were taking you know,
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Speaker 1: the photo you do right before the road ceremony with
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Speaker 1: everyone and in the lead, uh, Nate and I as
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Speaker 1: well maybe another twenty other guys didn't have the opportunity
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Speaker 1: to speak with either of Gabby and Rachel just because
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Speaker 1: the night just took so long. Wait, so on the
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Speaker 1: first night you didn't speak to either lady, Nope. So dude,
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Speaker 1: you just got you got your rose based on the
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Speaker 1: fact that you are just jacked in a good looking dude.
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Speaker 1: Let's be honest. I think rose. You got the pity rose.
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Speaker 1: It was a pity rose. And I'm standing outside with
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Speaker 1: Nate and we just look at each other and we're like, wow,
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Speaker 1: we really just quarantined to just meet a bunch of dudes.
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Speaker 1: We're going home. It's been a really fun you know,
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Speaker 1: four hours. Yeah, it's been great night. Oh my god,
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Speaker 1: did you get a rose as well? He did? Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: he did, and did a lot of the other guys
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Speaker 1: that we all got pity roses. But um, everyone you know,
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Speaker 1: you know, still in contact still, which is really cool. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's been some time since then, and got my core
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Speaker 1: group of buddies. Um, but everyone's really cool with each other.
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Speaker 1: All right, So let's let's let's skip a little level here,
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Speaker 1: so you go through the whole experience. Next thing, you know,
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Speaker 1: they reached out there like all right, Zach, you're gonna
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Speaker 1: be the bachelor, right, so now you have this whole
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Speaker 1: thing that you've been through, the whole rigamarole um, you know.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of emotions involved
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Speaker 1: in that that comes to either like we're gonna have
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Speaker 1: you be the new guy. Is it excitement that you're
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Speaker 1: hit with? Is it fear? Is it are you fired up?
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Speaker 1: Are you piste off? I mean, where what are your
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Speaker 1: emotional you know, feelings on this whole thing. I was
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Speaker 1: feeling a lot of different things. At first. It was,
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Speaker 1: to be honest, confusion. It was like really like, okay,
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Speaker 1: I'm honored. But also before you even get there, were
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Speaker 1: you confused about the night you didn't get a rose?
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Speaker 1: Like where was that whole what was your whole emotional
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Speaker 1: thing that set you up for this so with what
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Speaker 1: had happened on The Bachelor that season of going home
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Speaker 1: after that, like I needed time to just be away,
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Speaker 1: like family, process what happened in like and kind of
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Speaker 1: just recover from that whole experience of traveling the world
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Speaker 1: and and you know dating someone with other suitors and
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Speaker 1: then it you know, not being us like taking that
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Speaker 1: in and then you know, being asked weeks maybe a
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Speaker 1: little under a month um if I'd be interested in
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Speaker 1: considering being the Bachelor. I mean it was like, okay,
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Speaker 1: I'm getting over what, you know, being on TV, like
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Speaker 1: I like and and you know, having a broken heart,
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Speaker 1: Like how can I just hop right back in? Was
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Speaker 1: my initial thought. But it was also you know flattery.
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Speaker 1: I was like, wow, like that's that's really cool that
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Speaker 1: they're considering me for this, like what once in a
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Speaker 1: lifetime opportunity. So you know, after separate conversations, I was like,
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Speaker 1: I would be kicking myself if I didn't, you know,
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Speaker 1: take this shot, because I know I'm ready for it,
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Speaker 1: but like this is this is totally different now, Like
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Speaker 1: I'm not yeah, does that going on that experience now
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Speaker 1: when you look back at where Rachel and Gabby where
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Speaker 1: like you know, if we cut to the end of
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Speaker 1: this whole thing, it's got to give you a different
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Speaker 1: feeling as far as how that whole process goes, right,
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Speaker 1: I mean, you you get it now. It's kind of
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Speaker 1: a difficult thing to go through right on either side
12:15
Speaker 1: of it was tough on your end, I'm sure, but
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Speaker 1: now that you're the bachelor guy and you're doing the same, Like,
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Speaker 1: my biggest fear was, oh my god, I'm gonna hurt
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Speaker 1: people who don't deserve to be hurt, you know, I mean,
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Speaker 1: and it almost makes you feel weird saying it because
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Speaker 1: you're like, are they going to be hurt? Should they
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Speaker 1: even give a shit about me? But you're, you know,
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Speaker 1: you're in that mindset of I don't want to hurt people,
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Speaker 1: you know. That was that was a big thing for
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Speaker 1: me because I know what it feels like on that end,
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Speaker 1: and I think that it helps, you know, having that
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Speaker 1: that time there to where, you know, being in the
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Speaker 1: bachelor role. If the whole dynamic is different, like if
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Speaker 1: you feel a lot of pressure constantly and I'm you know,
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Speaker 1: tack that on with not a lot of you know, rest,
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Speaker 1: and you know you're you're going a million miles and
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Speaker 1: you know other other people's feelings are at stake like that. Like,
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Speaker 1: like you said, it's kind of weird to assume, but
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Speaker 1: sometimes you have to because you have to make your
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Speaker 1: decisions off of everything around you. You know, first and
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Speaker 1: most important it is like what your heart's telling you.
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Speaker 1: But second is like, how can you go about this?
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Speaker 1: You know the right way if there is a right way? Um,
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Speaker 1: and it's stressful, like and you can always second guess
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Speaker 1: and and always question. But like that was the biggest
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Speaker 1: part for me. It was like, it's a totally new dynamic.
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Speaker 1: How long have you been done filming so far? I
13:41
Speaker 1: mean we wrapped up just over two months ago. All right,
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Speaker 1: so you're and now you're watching the season unfold I am,
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Speaker 1: I am. Yeah, you're watching it by yourself in your
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Speaker 1: room home alone at night, or you got like a
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Speaker 1: posse of people. I recommend you deal with friends, buddy,
13:58
Speaker 1: because it sucks if you do it by yourself. No. No, Well,
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Speaker 1: the first episode, you know, we had a cool premier party,
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Speaker 1: had family and friends come, friends from the show, um,
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Speaker 1: and producers and that was really cool experience. Uh. For
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Speaker 1: future episodes, UM, very low key, I'm gonna says by
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Speaker 1: episode five. It's a pretty lonely experience. At least that
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Speaker 1: was my experience. Yeah. Yeah, And I think, like, I'm
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Speaker 1: not someone who likes to watch myself on TV anymore,
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Speaker 1: Like where I hear my own voice and I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I sound like I see it. And then I'm like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: I'm watching myself romantically. We're watching me do something good
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Speaker 1: at something bad, this and that, and I just feel
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Speaker 1: like I ever relive it, and I'm like, I'd rather
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Speaker 1: not you know, deal with um you know the comments
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Speaker 1: like I like to just watch it, Okay, cool, I
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Speaker 1: remember it, that's exactly how it went, or you know,
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Speaker 1: and then move on to the next one. I'm not
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Speaker 1: a big watch party guy. Watched with a bunch of people. No,
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Speaker 1: it's difficult, I know. I mean I can only imagine
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Speaker 1: what it's like. I mean, dude, to to date myself
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Speaker 1: and this is horrible. But when I was the bachelor, um,
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Speaker 1: there wasn't even social media, right, so I didn't have
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Speaker 1: to deal with it. There were chat rooms which seemed
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Speaker 1: off putting and you know, um a lot of gossip mags,
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Speaker 1: but there there there wasn't like on the on the
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Speaker 1: button moment by moment dissection of everything I did right,
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Speaker 1: And you know, I'd watch the show and I'd be like, God,
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Speaker 1: I really that's how I kiss. This is crazy, you
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Speaker 1: know that? Do I always talk like this and I
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Speaker 1: always hemming and hawing. I mean, I would dissect myself.
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Speaker 1: No one could critique me more than me on my
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Speaker 1: own worst critic um. And even though I know you're
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Speaker 1: from the West Coast, you seem kind of like a
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Speaker 1: Midwest guy to me in a weird way, which I
15:43
Speaker 1: take that as a I mean that I should say,
15:45
Speaker 1: is a very big compliment. Right. They don't say they
15:48
Speaker 1: say Midwestern values, right, they don't say West Coast values,
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Speaker 1: they say Midwestern values. So you're getting a compliment from
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Speaker 1: me right now. And I hope you can take it
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Speaker 1: as such. But I think that it's got to be
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Speaker 1: tough because you're watching yourself. You're like, how did I
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Speaker 1: end up here? And right? And then the whole thing
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Speaker 1: is it's unfolding. I mean, I'm sure you hear the noise, right.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of people saying things way better about
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Speaker 1: you than you could ever deserve, and a lot of
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Speaker 1: people saying just garbage about you that you also don't deserve.
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Speaker 1: And it's hard, right because you hear the good stuff
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Speaker 1: and that kind of goes in one year and not
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Speaker 1: the other, and the bad stuff will stick with you
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Speaker 1: for months. How have you been dealing with that? The
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Speaker 1: social media stuff is just tragic? Like how do you?
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Speaker 1: I don't mean that specific to you, I mean that
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Speaker 1: just in general. I get it all the time too.
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Speaker 1: I don't even know how I deal with it, But
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Speaker 1: how do you deal with it? Because it's got to
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Speaker 1: be magnified for you. Yeah, that's a good question because
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Speaker 1: I think it's constantly evolving on how to tackle that,
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Speaker 1: because like just over a year ago, you know, I
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Speaker 1: was working, you know, my my tech job in Austin,
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Speaker 1: going about life, you know, not someone that's even big
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Speaker 1: onto social media or understands it, let alone, Like I
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Speaker 1: don't even know how to properly like post photos at
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Speaker 1: the time. And now I'm in the world where, like
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Speaker 1: every ones on social media, everything you do is critiqued.
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Speaker 1: Now my love life is being critiquedum and everyone has
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Speaker 1: an opinion, and everyone fair like absolutely has an opinion,
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Speaker 1: and like seeing the the tough or hurtful comments, initially
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Speaker 1: we're really like, oh my god, like how could someone
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Speaker 1: like say that they don't know me this and it
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Speaker 1: did bother me early on? Um, and I don't know,
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Speaker 1: it took just maybe time or you know, just through
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Speaker 1: you know, confidence, or or just like seeking advice from
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Speaker 1: from family and friends was like okay, you know you're
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Speaker 1: never gonna appease everyone. Um. Also everything in a sense
17:42
Speaker 1: with like short media and this is like with a
17:44
Speaker 1: lot of things in general are pretty short lived. Um.
17:47
Speaker 1: And you know, yeah, the next thing right away, right,
17:50
Speaker 1: I mean instantly, if I get in my own head
17:53
Speaker 1: about it, then it's just like I'm gonna be you know,
17:56
Speaker 1: bummed out. And I'm not a guy that's ever bumped out.
17:59
Speaker 1: Like I'm very positive. But then when I'm like, oh,
18:01
Speaker 1: these people are trying to hurt me, I'm like they've
18:03
Speaker 1: probably got something else going on in their life to
18:05
Speaker 1: where they feel they need hurt. So that's how I
18:09
Speaker 1: rationalize and justify it. But and you're a better man
18:11
Speaker 1: than me. I still grind myself over the coals for
18:14
Speaker 1: half the things that are said about me. But you know,
18:16
Speaker 1: interestingly enough, someone gave me a great piece of advice
18:18
Speaker 1: once and they're like consider the source, right, So, like
18:21
Speaker 1: you're living your life and then you have these other
18:23
Speaker 1: people who are commenting on you living your life. Right,
18:27
Speaker 1: It's like, how often are you online commenting on someone
18:30
Speaker 1: else living their lives? Probably never? Right? So who are
18:34
Speaker 1: these people? And you know, hey, thank you for you know,
18:36
Speaker 1: paying attention, but let's be kind, right, We're still human beings.
18:39
Speaker 1: We start. You know, this is still us putting it
18:41
Speaker 1: out there, and clearly you're someone who's you know, going
18:43
Speaker 1: through an emotional experience. I mean, what you've done is genuine.
18:47
Speaker 1: People are I'm gonna I mean, I will tell you this,
18:49
Speaker 1: twenty years after I was the Bachelor, You're gonna still
18:51
Speaker 1: ask you the question is it real? You know? Is
18:54
Speaker 1: it all scripted? And you know I always say, I'm like, well,
18:56
Speaker 1: the moments are scripted, but the emotions are real, you know,
19:00
Speaker 1: So you're still feeling that stuff. So I'm sorry. You
19:03
Speaker 1: gotta deal with it. I mean, I didn't have to
19:04
Speaker 1: deal with it. I don't have to do it at
19:05
Speaker 1: the magnitude that you all do. I mean on the
19:07
Speaker 1: show today. I mean still, you know, twenty years later,
19:09
Speaker 1: I think I have like a hundred ten thousand followers.
19:12
Speaker 1: There's something that's pretty paltry. But um, I've probably have
19:15
Speaker 1: worked really hard for those hundred and ten. I think
19:17
Speaker 1: my mom's probably got like seventy ghost accounts. But the
19:20
Speaker 1: point is no, The point is, you know, it's like
19:25
Speaker 1: you go through this experience and it's tough, man, and
19:27
Speaker 1: there You're never gonna please everybody. So I mean, at
19:30
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you know, what are you
19:31
Speaker 1: gonna do? But okay, let's talk about your season now.
19:33
Speaker 1: So you come on as a bachelor. From what I understand, UM,
19:38
Speaker 1: I may have missed a few finer points of this,
19:40
Speaker 1: but it sounds to me like on the opening night,
19:44
Speaker 1: one young lady um walks up and licks your earhole. Basically,
19:50
Speaker 1: this gives you like tongue jacks your earbox, is what
19:53
Speaker 1: I've been told. Yeah, any words exchanged and he like, hey,
19:58
Speaker 1: how are you? Or she just walks up and it's
20:00
Speaker 1: boom shaka ka right in the ear drum I from
20:05
Speaker 1: because I think I would have married her. I'm totally kidding,
20:09
Speaker 1: totally kidding. Well, we're watching it and then try and
20:13
Speaker 1: remember that exact moment that I was, what I was feeling,
20:15
Speaker 1: and like, like, first off, that takes you know, Cohona's
20:20
Speaker 1: to do that um, could you imagine a poor dad.
20:23
Speaker 1: He's just like, oh, look, I'm gorgeous. Little girl. Here
20:26
Speaker 1: she comes, like a moment and then just tongue tongue dart.
20:31
Speaker 1: His buddies at home are like, really, Jim, this is
20:33
Speaker 1: what we're doing. This is what little Debbie's doing the night. Honestly,
20:39
Speaker 1: my my facial reaction, I think gives it away of
20:41
Speaker 1: just like I trying to hide, like it like with
20:44
Speaker 1: a laugh, Like I put my head back and opened
20:47
Speaker 1: my mouth like I'm laughing thinking it's funny, but it's
20:49
Speaker 1: actually like like disgusting. Like I'm like, why, why you
20:54
Speaker 1: can't You're like, I don't know, Okay, I mean I'm
20:57
Speaker 1: sure it piques your curiosity for a hot second, but
21:00
Speaker 1: it I mean, I don't know you at all, but
21:03
Speaker 1: from what I can tell from our initial interview, you
21:05
Speaker 1: strike me as one of those guys. I mean, I
21:07
Speaker 1: can tell you. When I was on the show, all
21:08
Speaker 1: I could think of, Oh my god, I don't want
21:09
Speaker 1: to embarrass my family, Like I don't want my mom
21:12
Speaker 1: and dad to have to go to the grocery store
21:14
Speaker 1: and be ashamed of me. Right, So if the girl
21:17
Speaker 1: walks up, she's you know, making out with your ear
21:20
Speaker 1: drum and you're like, oh, yeah, this is first impression
21:22
Speaker 1: rose all the way. I mean, your parents would be
21:24
Speaker 1: so disappointed, right, So I get it. I mean, but
21:28
Speaker 1: you said her home, you fast tractor to the limo.
21:30
Speaker 1: From what I gather, no that that was not a
21:34
Speaker 1: fast track to the limo. No, I I did not
21:35
Speaker 1: give her a rose that night. But there were, Um,
21:38
Speaker 1: there was another instance of there was one instance of
21:42
Speaker 1: I'm a fast track to the limo, but someone else
21:44
Speaker 1: not for ear looking well, tell me about it. What
21:46
Speaker 1: was the fast track? Uh? So, you know, a night
21:50
Speaker 1: one and um, you know, had the opportunity to to
21:53
Speaker 1: speak with one of the women in the house and
21:55
Speaker 1: we had a conversation and um, you know I went
21:58
Speaker 1: pretty well. Um, and she decides to pull me again
22:04
Speaker 1: for another conversation. I think that there were some feelings
22:08
Speaker 1: of jealousy because she saw that, um, I had kissed
22:12
Speaker 1: other women and she wasn't one of them, and so
22:15
Speaker 1: she wanted to pull me to get her kiss. And
22:19
Speaker 1: she pulls me aside and we're doing like these like
22:22
Speaker 1: dances or something, and she pulls me in like for
22:27
Speaker 1: a hug. I'm going in for a hug and she
22:29
Speaker 1: goes in and pulls me in and making a kiss happen. Um,
22:33
Speaker 1: and that did kind of rub me the wrong way. Um,
22:37
Speaker 1: like you can't force anything, Like, you can't force it
22:39
Speaker 1: if it's not there, and you know, you know had
22:43
Speaker 1: that you know, tough decision and talking with her saying like, hey,
22:46
Speaker 1: we can't force that, like what like if it's not here,
22:49
Speaker 1: it's not here, And I don't want to waste your
22:51
Speaker 1: time in the moment you did like you kind of
22:53
Speaker 1: like you sort of pulled back and like this is
22:54
Speaker 1: not happening. Well, so for it happens. And I'm like
22:58
Speaker 1: processing like like did that kiss just happen like that?
23:02
Speaker 1: Like is that how it really went? And I remember
23:05
Speaker 1: talking to Jesse about it actually funny enough because he asked,
23:07
Speaker 1: He's like, dude, like what you know what was with
23:11
Speaker 1: that that kiss? It didn't look like you really wanted
23:14
Speaker 1: to And I was like, you know what I I
23:16
Speaker 1: you know, I I respect you know, her pulling me
23:18
Speaker 1: again because you know that that takes guts And then
23:21
Speaker 1: most people don't, you know, some people will only get
23:24
Speaker 1: you know, one time, and some don't get any time.
23:26
Speaker 1: On on night one and he's like, what do you
23:28
Speaker 1: want to do? And I was like, what I think.
23:31
Speaker 1: I think it's best to send her home, like I
23:32
Speaker 1: don't want, you know, to lie to her or hold
23:34
Speaker 1: her here if there isn't a connection, And there clearly
23:36
Speaker 1: wasn't that spark when? So that was that was interesting.
23:41
Speaker 1: You never know what you're gonna you're gonna get on
23:43
Speaker 1: night one, like anything like Gritty all that stuff. Gritty
23:49
Speaker 1: is a good That's a tough dance. I mean, if
23:50
Speaker 1: they perfected, I believe they should get fast jacked the
23:53
Speaker 1: night too. That's just me. But I'm not a great dancer,
23:56
Speaker 1: and so I value things and others that I don't possess,
24:00
Speaker 1: you know, right, I can't judge it Like who I
24:02
Speaker 1: gritty on TV? And it looks absolutely terrible, So I
24:05
Speaker 1: can't someone pulls it off in an evening gown. Moving
24:09
Speaker 1: on next round. Did you ever watch the show previously
24:22
Speaker 1: being on it? Did you know the whole drill? I'd
24:27
Speaker 1: probably watched about a handful of episodes before, but my
24:31
Speaker 1: my mom and my two younger sisters are die hard
24:33
Speaker 1: fans of the show, so you know, growing up, you know,
24:37
Speaker 1: I walked downstairs see them watching the show and of
24:39
Speaker 1: course it would just have my attention drawn in uh
24:42
Speaker 1: to watch it, but you know, not consecutively by any means.
24:46
Speaker 1: But you know, I had a rough idea of what
24:49
Speaker 1: to expect. Um. But you know, my sisters obviously were like, uh,
24:54
Speaker 1: you know, given me as many planners as they could
24:58
Speaker 1: well were some of the psy anything's sticking out right
25:01
Speaker 1: now that you listen to or any of that you
25:03
Speaker 1: didn't and you wish you would have because obviously they
25:05
Speaker 1: know how this thing goes. Yeah. So actually, funny enough,
25:10
Speaker 1: my sister she told me right before. I don't remember
25:14
Speaker 1: if it was before batchelor Red or Bachelor, but um,
25:17
Speaker 1: she said, don't cry. And I'm an emotional guy, like
25:24
Speaker 1: by nature, I'm someone who wears my heart of my sleep.
25:26
Speaker 1: It's encouraged in my house, like show your emotion like
25:29
Speaker 1: good or bad. Um, you know, not worth holding in.
25:33
Speaker 1: And she said don't cry, and I was like, okay,
25:36
Speaker 1: I won't. Yeah, and that's quick to a sizzle real
25:39
Speaker 1: if you cry, man, we all know that, I know.
25:42
Speaker 1: And just you know, as Jesse said, this is the
25:45
Speaker 1: most emotional season for the Bachelor so far, So I'll
25:48
Speaker 1: just leave it at that. She didn't listen to her body.
25:51
Speaker 1: It's impossible. It's impossible, you know. I gotta be honest.
25:55
Speaker 1: For Ben Higgins. It was also impossible that dude cries
25:57
Speaker 1: more than anybody ever saying, but he isn't a emotional
26:00
Speaker 1: and lovely man, and I think that you'll probably have
26:02
Speaker 1: that same kind of staying power. I didn't cry. I
26:05
Speaker 1: didn't cry, and you didn't know who the hell I was,
26:06
Speaker 1: So there you go. I probably once in my lfe
26:13
Speaker 1: no I cry a ton Are you kidding me? I
26:15
Speaker 1: am the most emotional disaster um back then, though it
26:19
Speaker 1: didn't fit the mold. You gotta remember what I did
26:21
Speaker 1: the show. They it was a very you know, we
26:24
Speaker 1: didn't film stuff that didn't fit the mold of what
26:26
Speaker 1: we were trying to present. So I could have been
26:28
Speaker 1: falling like a baby and they'd be like, all right,
26:30
Speaker 1: just give him some time, let's dry him off, get
26:32
Speaker 1: him back in there and make him look stoic, you know.
26:35
Speaker 1: So it was. It wasn't as emotionally raw. Reality television
26:39
Speaker 1: wasn't as real back then, let's just put it that way.
26:42
Speaker 1: I didn't feel that way anyway. Yeah, it didn't feel
26:44
Speaker 1: that way. So one thing that I dealt with from
26:48
Speaker 1: being the bachelor. Um, that I think is probably something
26:52
Speaker 1: that is universal, regardless of social media or not. I'll
26:55
Speaker 1: never forget it. First time I walk into my hometown supermarket,
26:58
Speaker 1: I'm with my mom. I was just telling this story
27:00
Speaker 1: earlier that you know, my mom would go to the
27:02
Speaker 1: still twenty years later, she'll go to the chicken section,
27:04
Speaker 1: and people like, according to my mom, anyway, aren't you
27:07
Speaker 1: bachelor Bob's mom? And my mom was like, I am
27:11
Speaker 1: it just Oh, everyone drives me crazy bringing it up. Yeah,
27:13
Speaker 1: I can be in the same supermarket. No one speaks
27:15
Speaker 1: to me. So the hardest adjustment though, was seeing your
27:19
Speaker 1: personal life all over the tabloids, right like all of
27:21
Speaker 1: our US weekly, People, Magazine, Star, National choir whatever it is, um,
27:27
Speaker 1: social media. I'm sure how has that been for you? Like,
27:29
Speaker 1: how has that adjustment been for you to all of
27:31
Speaker 1: a sudden go from being, you know, a guy that's
27:34
Speaker 1: working hard. You know, I mean you you know, you're
27:35
Speaker 1: an athlete. So the mindset of you know, keep your
27:38
Speaker 1: head down, work hard, and good things will happen. Right.
27:40
Speaker 1: We all have heard those from our coaches over the years,
27:42
Speaker 1: and um, now all of a sudden you know, you're
27:46
Speaker 1: entire personal life and every decision you make is being
27:48
Speaker 1: dissected by body relationship experts and you know all this
27:53
Speaker 1: kind of crap. I mean, how has that been for
27:55
Speaker 1: you as a as a an individual and how are
27:57
Speaker 1: you handling it? Yeah, it's a good question. It is interesting,
28:03
Speaker 1: you know with life now outside of the show. Um,
28:07
Speaker 1: you know, similar to you know, your story with with
28:09
Speaker 1: you your mom at the grocery store, like you know,
28:12
Speaker 1: going to most places, um, you know, being recognized as
28:15
Speaker 1: a weird feeling because I'm kind of a private person
28:19
Speaker 1: by nature, and I like, I think it's it's really
28:23
Speaker 1: cool when people like come support or or whant I
28:26
Speaker 1: get a photo with me? But it's just still such
28:29
Speaker 1: a crazy concept that people want to do that in
28:32
Speaker 1: the first place, or people want to write an article
28:35
Speaker 1: about what clothes I wore on my last Instagram post
28:38
Speaker 1: or like well, like it's it goes back to the
28:41
Speaker 1: opinions thing. It's like, Okay, everyone's going to have an opinion.
28:44
Speaker 1: I get that, and and it's up to me like
28:46
Speaker 1: if I want to read those comments or not. But
28:48
Speaker 1: like for me, I I I welcome you know everyone
28:52
Speaker 1: with with open arms. You know, when I meet people
28:54
Speaker 1: out and about and you know, whether it's at the
28:56
Speaker 1: gym or at the grocery store or this and that,
28:58
Speaker 1: and just I don't know, just take the time to
29:02
Speaker 1: say high or get to know them, um, because it is.
29:05
Speaker 1: It is a cool opportunity because I know, like when I, um,
29:09
Speaker 1: you know, growing up, would like run into someone that
29:11
Speaker 1: I have seen it on TV and I would like
29:13
Speaker 1: love to meet them and get a picture with them,
29:14
Speaker 1: and you know, it would be the biggest gut punch
29:16
Speaker 1: it They said, no, oh sure, yeah. You always love
29:19
Speaker 1: it if there's someone who you hope that you think
29:22
Speaker 1: they are right, Like you meet Tom Hanks, you wanted
29:25
Speaker 1: to be the greatest guy you've ever met in your
29:26
Speaker 1: life because he seems like he is. You know it.
29:29
Speaker 1: He's such a bomb if he wasn't, you know. But
29:31
Speaker 1: there's a lot of pressure on those guys too. I
29:33
Speaker 1: met Bill Murray in the airport today and Bill Murray
29:35
Speaker 1: was amazing. I mean, he was so nice. Oh yeah, yeah,
29:39
Speaker 1: and it was really cool and I was thankful because
29:42
Speaker 1: you know, he had no clue who the hell I was,
29:44
Speaker 1: nor should he, but I definitely knew who he was
29:46
Speaker 1: and it was nice that he gave me thirty seconds
29:49
Speaker 1: of his time, you know, and that's all it takes.
29:52
Speaker 1: It's not that hard to be kind to people. It's
29:54
Speaker 1: pretty easy, really, You're never that busy in fact that
29:56
Speaker 1: it's just being kind, you know, like just expect that.
30:00
Speaker 1: You know, not everyone has that out you know, outlook
30:03
Speaker 1: on life. But as long as you keep that yourself,
30:05
Speaker 1: you'll be good. That's yeah. So have you ever heard
30:08
Speaker 1: of the term like grease in the wheel, like getting
30:11
Speaker 1: ready for something? You so, first night of the Bachelor,
30:14
Speaker 1: you're getting ready to you know, all the limbos of
30:15
Speaker 1: pull up? What did you do to grease the wheel?
30:17
Speaker 1: What did you do to like get yourself ready? Anything specific? Um,
30:22
Speaker 1: there's a lot of pacing. Yeah. Any any beverage choices
30:26
Speaker 1: that maybe helped you get to the right place? Quite
30:29
Speaker 1: a few? Um? I had, I had a few, uh
30:34
Speaker 1: a few beverages. Um, any of that are you know
30:38
Speaker 1: Mexican in in in uh origin, perhaps like tequila or
30:41
Speaker 1: anything like that. Absolutely, maybe maybe two or three if
30:45
Speaker 1: we're honest. And then you know, you gotta have some
30:48
Speaker 1: you know, artificial caffeine in there somewhere because it's a
30:52
Speaker 1: late it is late, and a lot of blasting of
30:56
Speaker 1: just like the most ridiculous music you can and just
30:59
Speaker 1: like get the nerves out some way, you know, and
31:04
Speaker 1: back to its Tequia. It's always tequila money. That's the
31:08
Speaker 1: only way to Yeah. I like it. I like the
31:12
Speaker 1: way you got there, though you took a long road,
31:13
Speaker 1: and I appreciate it. So Okay. One of the things
31:16
Speaker 1: that we had back in the day when I did
31:18
Speaker 1: this show was a deliberation room, right, so they had
31:22
Speaker 1: all the women that were there on that night of
31:25
Speaker 1: the contail party or whatever we call it. They had
31:28
Speaker 1: all of their photos on like a wall, like a
31:31
Speaker 1: viewing wall, and I would go in and I would deliberate.
31:34
Speaker 1: Now we just look at these photos as if to
31:37
Speaker 1: ponder who I was going to give a roast to,
31:39
Speaker 1: because they were all right there on the cusp. And
31:43
Speaker 1: I remember looking at all these and I would take time.
31:45
Speaker 1: I'd look at each one. Some of them, I grabbed
31:48
Speaker 1: the frame and I'd stare at it for a minute.
31:49
Speaker 1: I put it back. Do they still do that or
31:52
Speaker 1: they skipped that part of it, because it was it
31:54
Speaker 1: was really interesting time for at the time Chris Harrison
31:58
Speaker 1: and I had to walk in there and just have
31:59
Speaker 1: me stare a blank wall. Yeah, something just like that,
32:04
Speaker 1: because obviously a night one like there's no way you
32:07
Speaker 1: can remember everyone's names with the faith, and like you
32:12
Speaker 1: have so many conversations and you're trying to you know,
32:15
Speaker 1: calm your own nerves and you need to go and
32:18
Speaker 1: just breathe in another room and just you know, figure
32:22
Speaker 1: it out. For lack of better terms, h yeah. So yeah,
32:27
Speaker 1: there would be several times without like throughout the night
32:30
Speaker 1: going to a room and looking at the little you know,
32:33
Speaker 1: cards with the name, and you know, sometimes it would
32:36
Speaker 1: just be the easiest, like like you just follow your
32:40
Speaker 1: gut on that and you're like, yep, something well seconds
32:44
Speaker 1: with this person. Yep, I don't know what it is.
32:46
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but yes, And then there's some
32:49
Speaker 1: that you know, you have to deliverate a little bit
32:50
Speaker 1: more on and and and figure out. But that was
32:53
Speaker 1: something new that I didn't know how like you do it,
32:56
Speaker 1: because I was fully prepared to come in and be like,
32:59
Speaker 1: all right, I'm remembering all the names. We're doing it.
33:03
Speaker 1: That's a little false because there's no shot I would
33:05
Speaker 1: ever be able to actually come on. I'm a competitive guy,
33:09
Speaker 1: so I gotta tell you, um, on my first night's
33:12
Speaker 1: rose ceremony, I had I believe it was twenty eight
33:15
Speaker 1: or thirty ladies there. And I had found out that
33:17
Speaker 1: Alex Michelle, out of the fifteen women that he got
33:20
Speaker 1: to keep on the first night, he had remembered twelve names.
33:24
Speaker 1: So my goal was to remember all fifteen. So I
33:26
Speaker 1: created a song in my head, and I got through it.
33:28
Speaker 1: I got through all fifteen. However, what a lot of
33:30
Speaker 1: people don't know a little a little sidebar is I
33:33
Speaker 1: was nervous, right, So I was holding the rose. Uh,
33:37
Speaker 1: let me see if I can hold. I was holding
33:38
Speaker 1: the rose like this, right, So I have a rose,
33:40
Speaker 1: and I was like Debbie, right, and then the next
33:42
Speaker 1: one Jenny or you know. I'm just using random names,
33:46
Speaker 1: of course, to protect the innocent. And I and I
33:48
Speaker 1: remember the next one. I go to say the name
33:51
Speaker 1: and the rose the top of the rose falls off
33:54
Speaker 1: and no one knows what to do, and I think,
33:55
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is a real show. So I
33:57
Speaker 1: can't It's reality television. I can't waiver. So I hole
34:01
Speaker 1: hold and I'm like Rhonda, and Ronda comes up on Granda,
34:04
Speaker 1: will you accept the stem? And she takes that. I
34:06
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be great television, and they make you
34:08
Speaker 1: reshoot it, and I was so bummed. Point is, though
34:10
Speaker 1: I got all fifteen. Do you remember how remember how
34:12
Speaker 1: many of the ladies on the first night you remembered
34:14
Speaker 1: all their names? Uh? They just say this. They didn't
34:21
Speaker 1: let me test that theory. If I'm not mistaken, let
34:27
Speaker 1: me try and reenact this and tell me this is
34:29
Speaker 1: that rate. You'd get through like five names and you'd
34:31
Speaker 1: be like, I'm sorry, ladies, I I need a moment,
34:36
Speaker 1: and you'd step outside, maybe like they'd like Debbie, Rhonda, Jenny, Brenda, Camille.
34:42
Speaker 1: Is that not how they did well? Not not as
34:46
Speaker 1: dramatic as that. It would be. You know, I'll go
34:49
Speaker 1: I'll use your names. It would be like okay, yeah, Ronda,
34:52
Speaker 1: what do you accept the strokes? Yes, okay, And then
34:55
Speaker 1: it would be a pause and then I would like
34:57
Speaker 1: look to to one of the um like directors and
35:02
Speaker 1: I would just give a nod and he'd nod back,
35:05
Speaker 1: and then I'd be like and then just mysteriously, oh,
35:08
Speaker 1: there was no explanation, because when I was on the
35:13
Speaker 1: batchel of the rat, they didn't do any explanation. We
35:16
Speaker 1: were like, why are the girls keep going back to
35:18
Speaker 1: the back room like what's going on? Like are they
35:21
Speaker 1: are they panicking or they freaking out? And then I
35:23
Speaker 1: later learned that's what it was for. It took away
35:25
Speaker 1: the drama factor. I brought some drama to that franchise.
35:28
Speaker 1: Back then, I'd be like, ladies, I just can't. But
35:31
Speaker 1: then I'd like, but no, I can because I got
35:33
Speaker 1: all fifteen right here in my bean. I got through it.
35:36
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. All right, So one last question, No,
35:39
Speaker 1: thank you, buddy. It was the one thing I had
35:40
Speaker 1: going for me. I got. I had a musical memory. So, UM,
35:44
Speaker 1: all right, let's ask you this. So now that you're engaged, UM,
35:48
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Well, I'm sorry. What was your name? I
35:51
Speaker 1: think they all right, Well, you know what, I'm sorry.
35:54
Speaker 1: I'm getting some bad intel. So at the end of
35:57
Speaker 1: the day, we're so happy about the marriage coming up,
36:00
Speaker 1: and we're excited to be invited to the nuptials. Um,
36:04
Speaker 1: now I'm excited for you man. You seem like a
36:06
Speaker 1: very nice guy, and I think that at the end
36:08
Speaker 1: of the day, you got to remember, I have this,
36:10
Speaker 1: I have this idea of the way the show works,
36:12
Speaker 1: especially when I was on it. I used to say,
36:14
Speaker 1: you know, you could have You can have a monkey
36:16
Speaker 1: up here handing out flowers and everyone's gonna cry because
36:18
Speaker 1: it's a social science experiment. It's nothing to do with
36:20
Speaker 1: the guy. So I think about that all the time.
36:22
Speaker 1: I'm always like, you know, and people like, oh, no,
36:24
Speaker 1: that's humble pie pop. I'm like, no, it's really sincere.
36:27
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with the guy. But I
36:28
Speaker 1: think in your case it kind of does, because you
36:31
Speaker 1: seem like that guy. Man, you're a very nice guy,
36:33
Speaker 1: and I have a feeling that you probably have a
36:36
Speaker 1: lot of ladies vying for your attention and you were
36:39
Speaker 1: raised right, and man, I'm just excited for you. I
36:42
Speaker 1: hope it all works out the way you wanted to
36:43
Speaker 1: and um, and you find some happiness at the end
36:46
Speaker 1: of this thing, because it's a tough road to hope.
36:49
Speaker 1: People don't get it right. They all think, oh, what
36:51
Speaker 1: a crimeer river. You know, he handed out flowers of
36:53
Speaker 1: thirty girls and made out with him, big deal. But
36:56
Speaker 1: it is tough. You go through a lot to get there.
36:58
Speaker 1: So I hope you guys find happiness, and I wish
37:00
Speaker 1: you the best and thanks for being part of our show.
37:02
Speaker 1: I mean it's o g to the new guy. Man,
37:04
Speaker 1: this is a big transition. I was twenty years ago
37:07
Speaker 1: and it's still on the air. This is bananas. Wow. Wow.
37:11
Speaker 1: Well we'll first stop. Thank you. I appreciate that the
37:13
Speaker 1: kind of words, and um, you know, yeah, like what
37:16
Speaker 1: you're saying, it is wild and not a lot of
37:18
Speaker 1: people understand it. You know, Fortunately you do. You're someone
37:21
Speaker 1: that does. And it's it's crazy to know you. You
37:24
Speaker 1: know that there are people that do support um, you
37:27
Speaker 1: know through all the crazy social media and whatnot. But um,
37:31
Speaker 1: I appreciate being on this podcast and the new guy.
37:34
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. Hey, we just named it tonight, Bunny.
37:38
Speaker 1: We're excited. We're excited. Well, I wish you the best.
37:40
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, at the end of the day,
37:42
Speaker 1: you gotta remember, I mean, you know, just get through
37:44
Speaker 1: it with your confidence intact. Don't let anybody beat you up.
37:48
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's it's not easy, right, It's
37:50
Speaker 1: you're an easy target, dude. I mean, you know you're
37:52
Speaker 1: out there, you're a nice person, putting your heart on
37:55
Speaker 1: the line. Like you say, you wear your emotions on
37:56
Speaker 1: your sleeve. So you're gonna get some grief for it.
37:58
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, Man, your happiness
38:01
Speaker 1: twenty years from now. Take it from me, as it
38:03
Speaker 1: matters of most. So it's gonna be a great experience.
38:05
Speaker 1: You said yes to a fun moment. Live it up,
38:08
Speaker 1: enjoy it, and thanks for being a part of the show. Man.
38:10
Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. Thank you, Bob. I appreciate it.
38:13
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for you. Man. Thank you. Tell your mom,
38:15
Speaker 1: I said, Hi, Oh, she knows you.