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The Rabbi’s Responsibility: Leading Fragile Hearts | Rabbi Daniel Glatstein | ITVOG Ep. 14 · In the Valley of Giants

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I think part of the, the weakness of this generation is
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the, the weakness of, of leadership in the sense of, I
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think a lot of leaders are looking behind their shoulder to
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see what the people want them to say because they're afraid of
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ruffling fat, you know, anyone's feather fat, they're afraid of
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rubbing someone the wrong way. Basically, people are afraid to
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speak the truth in this generation, you know?
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Thank you so much for coming in. Excited to speak to you today.
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So one of the things I wanted to ask you about is you are very
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involved with education as well as abroad, Hashem.
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And the way that has worked previously up until very
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recently is that you can teach a few Tomidam, you can teach a
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few, you read them, but you cannot teach people that are on
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the other side of the world. And that is something we have
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access to now. And I'm assuming that because of
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that, you're also fielding a little bit of questions from
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perhaps different parts of the world as well.
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So as someone who does that and is having your own Keela, So
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what what are some challenges do you think are really important
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at the clients for all? Now that is right to speak
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about, right for people to know about.
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And and as being in someone in your position who is the Rev of
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a Shoal and manages families and people of all ages, what are you
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seeing down the line? What's everyone dealing with?
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What are people dealing with? OK, that's a loaded question.
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What are the challenges that people are dealing with in 2025,
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soon to be 2026? There are a myriad of challenges
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people are dealing with. One we alluded to in what we
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were speaking about before that we live in the a world of
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information. There's more information
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available today than there ever was.
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There's no question that we have more information than our
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parents, our grandparents, our great grandparents, not only in
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the secular world, but in Tyra, when a Yomtiff comes, we know
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more about Yomtiff than our grandparents did.
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There's no question, you know, wherever our grandparents came
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from. So maybe they knew the they knew
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Kitzer Shulkanara, and maybe they knew the Gomorrah and they
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knew the background, or maybe they knew some Svarum.
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But in today's world, the the full gamut of information from
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all backgrounds of the Jewish people, whether it's Kabbalah,
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Svardik, Hasidic, different countries, is now at everybody's
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fingertips. And everybody is bombarded with
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Shurim and messages of what Yom Tif's all about and what this
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mitzvah is all about and what this man is all about.
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So we have a lot of information that we know, but on the other
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hand, I don't think that the information that we know is as
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close to our hearts as it was to our grandparents and our great
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grandparents. What do you mean there's less of
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a Rochem? Is that what you're?
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Implying I think it less of a Rochem, in other words.
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So I think we live in the generation of artificial
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intelligence. Why is that?
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A maybe because we're so bombarded by the information.
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So our our knowledge of it is very superficial.
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I also think it's because of our immersion in Gashmius.
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OK, that sort of I think dulls are spiritual senses.
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Like because of hedonistically because we're.
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Just, I don't know if it's because we're, I wouldn't say
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necessarily that we're ballet taiva, but you know, I'll just
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give you a simple example. You know, when I was a kid,
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Shabbos meal is gefilte fish and chicken and potato cogol.
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Now it's gefilte fish and how many dips people have, and not
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just regular khala. You have to have this kind of
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khala, that kind of khala, just the abundance of bracha that we
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live with. And obviously in America it's to
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a greater extreme, but I'm sure in arts Israel, more than it was
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30 years ago or 20 years ago or even 10 years ago.
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Sure. The the more a person partakes
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of gashmias, the more their spiritual senses are dulled.
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Bishami, you shouldn't believe it.
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It's almost like ma ya sahabenshala yekta.
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So you know, we want Hashem to continue it.
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We hope Hashem always continues to shower us with bracha, but it
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does to a certain extent jade our spiritual, the acuity of our
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spiritual senses. So that's one area that we that
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we deal with. Another area is but.
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Before you go on to that, what's the response to that so
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precious? So if that's an issue, so then
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what's the response? Maybe it's deeper conversations
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with our children and when we're younger to appreciate the the
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the guidelines that we do have. I think, I think the, the way I
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don't know, I don't know if that it's, it's precious, but I think
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it's inculcating something called not increasing our our
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physical intake, which means that every year they're, they
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come up with more ways to satisfy your physical palate.
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You know, there are more flavors of each kind of food.
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There are more kinds of each kind of food where a person
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creates a certain guideline. You could call it precious, but
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you know, I'm not, I'm not advocating fasting or
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abstaining. It's more like, OK, I don't, I
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don't need, I don't need more. I don't need that.
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I don't need the newest in terms of physical intake.
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But practically, what does that look like?
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Like what? So what would we call that on to
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do? So you want them to not have the
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third Shalom on Shabbos and not go to the Kidders Club like.
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I'm I don't know. People who know me know that I I
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compare the Kidders club to Adam Harishine, the head of Adam
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Harishine Kidders show. You mean during the avening?
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That's I'm not no, no, Van, no, I'm the third.
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Yeah, I would say, you know, you let you enjoy your chill hunt,
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right? You don't need to have VIP chill
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hunt where do that. Why don't bring that into your
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life. Don't bring in the new flavour,
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but is a. Mammon who are Mashman, Right?
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The Balmor. The what the Balmor is is a
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Mammon who are Mashman, right? It's called by the Misha Brewer,
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I think. Or maybe he's in charts.
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Yeah, I'm not. Familiar.
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Yeah, but onic but onic Chavez is a mammon who are mashman you
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you fan themselves on Chavez and you know protects bionic you.
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You could enjoy, but not to not to hide in physical intake.
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So in other words, the Gras also says that the the the main
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Yeatsahara comes from eating on Shabbos and Yomtiff.
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The villain says in in his Paris Jean Michele that the the main
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power of the eatsahara comes from the rationale.
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You know, it's covered Shabbos, it's covered Yomtiff.
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So you know, it was just Hanukkah, right.
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So when I was a kid, they had, I mean it, it's a silly topic, but
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they had Jelly doughnuts and they had custard doughnuts.
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Now every year they invent. I went to the store, they were
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putting liver in their doughnuts.
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What's wrong with this? What's what's wrong?
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If you want to eat liver, eat liver.
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If you want to eat a doughnut, eat doughnut.
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But now they're coming up with different, they're inventing
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Taiva. You know, the Ramban says
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something very frightening. And, and our Rosh Hashiba used
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to say this a lot. You know, we live in a in a
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generation where there's such moral cloudiness even in the way
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people identify themselves. Zahar Nikiva, where did it?
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Where did it come from? So the, you know, there's a
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Ramban. The Ramban says in the past, the
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matter of voice, hara hara of ES hatsumaya.
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The Ramban says that when people increase their Taiba then they
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experience a need to try to intake Taiva they never had
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before. So then psychologically, a
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person will then develop a need to do something that's connected
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their nature. What do you mean by that?
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It's pretty self understood. In other words, the way that
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Taiva works, the way that desire works, is that once you
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experience it, you want something more.
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And if that more doesn't exist, then you'll desire things that
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are against normal human nature. OK, so, so it's dangerous.
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It's dangerous. You know, you could have your
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doughnut, but now you're going to start, you know, this year.
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What's the new flavor? Why does there have to be a new
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flavor? Did you enjoy it last year?
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So enjoy it this year. And that, that itself is
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precious, that itself keeping it in check.
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You mean being on guard, You know, you have a certain kind of
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car. So now, oh, now they have a
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newer version with a, with a, a newer accessory.
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Don't get it, don't get it. They have whatever it is in
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life. It's not to keep things at the
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current level. Is is a form of precious which
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is realistic in times that we live in.
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And how would you do that with kids?
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How would you do that with kids? They want the new toy, they want
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the new face comic book, even the, the, the, the from stuff
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that they have. Some of it is great.
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How are we, how are we passing that message on?
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Because you don't need to start with adults and we can start
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with children. So how would we start with
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children? If we're going to work
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backwards, right? We're going to get this Chr out
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of us. How do we do that?
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Look, when the child reaches a, a, a, a certain age, they're
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going to want something appropriate for that age.
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Yeah. So there's a way to determine
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what's appropriate and what's next level.
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And there's nothing wrong with telling a kid.
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OK, you know, you got something for your birthday present at 10.
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Now you're 11 years old, I want you to get something
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appropriate. Yeah, but did you see what they
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have now? OK, so let's break it down.
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But you know, they had something really good last year and I
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think you're old enough to get in.
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You really appreciate it and I'm going to, you know, it has to be
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a balanced decision. It's very interesting.
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Rashi says that on last week that when you when Yehuda came
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down to Mitzrayim before everybody else.
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So Rashi says that they send Yehuda the higher rest of the
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fund of Goshna. So Rashi brings down the Derek
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Hazel that Yehuda was sent to establish a yeshiva.
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But the Mehrus brings 2 opinions.
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The Mehrus brings an opinion that he was sent to build a
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house. You need Yehuda, you need the
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Ghadar to build a house. You get get an architect, get a
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construction worker. Why Yehuda, the Ghadar has to be
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sent to build a house? No, because look, when they were
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living in in arts Israel, so they could live a certain way,
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maybe a more modest lifestyle. They're not the brothers or the
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family of the king. So in terms of determining how
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do we employ the values of the, of ice from Hebraim to Mitzrayim
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in new circumstance. So we need a God, al Hadar to be
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able to make that balanced decision.
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Our values of discipline, of modesty, of, of not living
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luxuriously, but that has to be balanced with the fact.
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But now we're coming down, we're representing Yosef, the king of
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the world. We need a Yehuda to make that
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call. So no, he's not sent down to
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make you shave. He's sent down to determine like
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what the what the blinds are going to look like on the
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windows and what the trimmings are going to look like on in the
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dining room. So it needs a lot of balance to
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determine, you know, what's excessive, what's appropriate,
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what's no, that's not right. You're treating the kid that
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way. You know the kid needs a certain
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present for whatever occasion it is.
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So am I you Hooda in my house? Is that the implication?
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What am I Hooda in my house? Is that the implication?
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You're, yes, you are you Hooda in your house.
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And maybe these are things that parents should discuss with
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their rabbonium. In other words, how do they
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guide their family? You know, what kind of things do
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they buy? What kind of lifestyle do they
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live? What's appropriate in accordance
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with their means and accordance with their neighborhood in
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accordance with their family circumstance.
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You made an implication before that you feel that it's a bigger
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problem in America versus Eritrea versus the last 30 years
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here. What did you mean by that?
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I'm just my. My.
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Observation is that in the American lifestyle is a higher
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level of. Decadence.
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Gosh, me. Yes, yeah.
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You know, in America you have to have a car.
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You know, you have to have a certain kind of, you have to
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live in a house. Who doesn't live in a house in
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America? You know, in Israel these are
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not Givens, right? You know what a yumptif meal
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looks like in America is, you know, 5 notches above.
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I think what a I'm imagining what it looks like in arts
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Israel. So it's a bigger challenge in in
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America. OK, all right.
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What was the second I I interrupted you.
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So that was that was issue #1 what's another issue that you
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think is really hush of that people should be aware of?
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Many people today are emotionally very fragile.
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More than another times today, a kid could say, you know, I'm
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traumatized. I'm traumatized.
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You know, you go, you go in the store and you hear a kid tell
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his mother, you don't know what happened today.
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The teacher looked at me, Roy, I'm traumatized now.
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It could be it's just like they they just throw out that word
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out trauma, trauma. But people are saying they feel
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that they have had trauma in their lives.
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And yet I knew my grandfather, who was a Holocaust survivor,
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and I, I read in his writings that he describes what the
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Warsaw Ghetto looked like, how there were rivers of blood
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flowing through the streets of Warsaw with skeletons and bodies
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lying around in a Dome. And he was, he lived a very
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happy life where he gave of himself to counsel others.
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And it's like it's, it's ironic. It's difficult to understand how
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people who saw what the last generation saw and didn't
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necessarily seem to have been so traumatized.
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And yet people in this generation, they experience a
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little bit of difficulty and they feel that they they're,
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they have to deal with trauma in their life.
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So the main reason for that is people today are not emotionally
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as strong as they once were. I don't, I can't explain it.
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Maybe it has to do with the physical intake.
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In other words, you know they're they, haven't I?
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Think it's probably a cryos. I mean, no one takes a cryos for
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anything anymore. So you don't actually have to be
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anything or do anything. Everything's just done for you.
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So you have. No, you know, we'll have though.
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It's like someone who wants to go to a gymnasium and he wants
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to build his muscles or something.
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OK, You go and you push and your muscles get bigger.
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So yeah, the children I feel, especially in this store, they
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just have no a cryos. I mean, growing up, I had
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responsibilities. Yeah, the door that I see coming
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up, they they don't even take out the trash.
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They have zero responsibility. So there's no resiliency.
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Something didn't go my way. I'm upset.
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ABBA, fix it. Talk to you.
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Fix it, Mommy, fix it. That's that's the I'll give you
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another example. A couple years ago, there was a
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boy that I needed to take his phone away.
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Was not good for him, especially him.
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So I took it away. So he said, but Rebbe, how am I
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going to get to the to the bus station now it's impossible for
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me to get to the bus station. I'm going to have to borrow
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another phone to call my father. Like what am I going to do?
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I'm completely stuck you I'm stranded.
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So when I was here in I came up with something brand new at the
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time it was called MapQuest. You went on the computer and you
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waited like 3 minutes because there's a dial up connection.
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Yeah. And I told you more or less had
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to get somewhere. And guess what?
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When it didn't work, I guessed I spoke to someone figured it out.
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I would have had a dictionary on me when I was doing my nerves.
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So often I need to do something. Why?
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Because it's not backing me up. I got to do something.
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I got to take care of myself. Maybe the reason why people are
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so delicate is because they have everything at their fingertips
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at all times, especially have you know, they have they have
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video games, they have phones, which it's just like constant
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entertainment and and and and whenever you want it any second.
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Maybe that's it. That may be a contributing
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factor, yeah. But I think the the response to
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that is very similar to what you were saying before.
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I think kids need kids need #1 limitations that you can't give
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them everything that they want all the time, right?
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So that that Gashmius the decadence that you're talking
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about. I'm asking, but I think maybe
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it's important also for our kids to to take a cries, you know, if
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a kitchen have chores, I think that's a double push it.
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And I don't think that it's a double push it to everyone.
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That's number one. But number 2 is the teacher
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looked at you the wrong way. OK, so why don't you go speak to
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the teacher very respectfully. No, I'm traumatized.
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OK, well, you have to work through that trauma.
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So you should speak to the teacher and Devark, is that
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right? The child is asking you because
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the child wants you to call the teacher.
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Child wants you to tell off the teacher, right?
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I think that that that that might be helpful.
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OK, I think there's, you know, there's an important point in
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what you're saying, but but still the emotional makeup of a
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person today is. No, but this is this could be
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why, like you, you said your it was your your grandfather was an
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Holocaust survivor. OK.
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So I knew Holocaust survivors growing up and then there was a
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tremendous amount of stuff that they had to share.
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Our children have no idea what that is.
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They never knew Holocaust survivors.
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You know, we're Klishlishi, we're not Mavashal.
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They're Klichamishi's clear Raviz.
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They're not even Yatzel. Let us go.
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They, they, they, they have, they don't know what it's like
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to to to, to, to experience hardship, you know, but so, so
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that's what I'm saying. They need, they need access to
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that. You know, I also don't know how
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much, how much do we talk about the Holocaust with our children
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or pogroms. I'm not saying that we need to
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scare them like, you know, oddly die.
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I don't think that's very smart. That might be really
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traumatizing to just do that, but just say that, you know,
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cholesterol has been around for a long time and, you know,
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things, things are difficult. There are ups and downs, Of
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course. Brock, who gives us a crisis
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instead of just living in a fairy tale and that everything's
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going to be. You know, you can't hide it
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because a couple years ago we had October 7th and if a kid
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never heard about the Holocaust and all of a sudden they're
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suddenly they're, they're, they're told about this event
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that happened on, on October 7th.
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They have no context to view it. And they think, well, you know,
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life is Disneyland. Right.
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Were you shocked by some Costera?
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Were you shocked when that happened?
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I was saddened. I was not shocked.
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Shocked. I was not sure, but I feel that
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that the people that the next door, they were, they were
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shocked. But how could such a thing
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happen? OK, I, you know, we could, we
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could try to uncover the the cause of why people are more
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emotionally fragile, but they are the amount of anxiety that
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people have, the amount of emotional distress that people
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have is rampant. As as.
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Maybe it always was, and maybe just because life was more
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difficult, they didn't have the opportunity to dwell on it and
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to deal with it. But because our lives are in
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general easier and better, many people are suffering from
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emotional distress, and it's important to be aware of that.
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You know that. The same way, you know, people's
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heart goes out to people who are in the hospital and they have a
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physical ailment. People need to be aware that the
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the Harusa sitting next to them who looks like he's learning
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well, right? Or.
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Anyone in their life could could be suffering and you know it.
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It heightens the the importance of giving people Khazuk.
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Right. Of giving people a kind word and
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you know, the tell me them here ultimately, one day they want to
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have the opportunity to share what they're learning with
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others. And a big part of that is to to
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try to help build people up because people need it tonight.
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As a as a Rev, how do you how do you manage that when you're
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trying to you want to give physical with all you know,
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sometimes there could be a lot of sensitivities and
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negativities. What would be an ace that you'd
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give to leaders growing up? What can we look for?
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What should we be looking for? Looking for and what?
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And and how to properly lead an AM, how to properly lead a
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Kahila like knowing those sensitivities, anxiety,
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etcetera, what can we really be giving families and especially
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children? It's a very, it's a very good
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question because on the one hand you need to be aware of this,
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but it's not necessarily the role of the Rava Rasha Shiva to
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be able to help people in this area because most Rab on him are
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not formally trained as a psychologist or social worker.
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And I think a lot of Rob on him get themselves into messes,
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creeping into people's personal issues when they are more
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correctly should be referring them to somebody who's
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specialized in this area. I'm just saying that there needs
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to be an awareness. People, you know, in general,
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people should have an awareness about this in terms of
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leadership. I think part of the, the
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weakness of this generation is the, the weakness of, of
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leadership in the sense of, I think a lot of leaders are
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looking behind their shoulder to see what the people want them to
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say because they're afraid of ruffling fat, you know, anyone's
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feather fat, they're afraid of rubbing someone the wrong way.
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Basically, people are afraid to speak the truth in this
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generation, you know, so I mean, as somebody, somebody came to
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me, they're working on a Tefila project and they're show, they
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come to me in the shore. They're showing me on their
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phone of, you know, all the things that they're working on
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to help people dive in properly. And why is it that people have a
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hard time, you know, concentrating on their Tefila?
22:52
And I told the guy, what in the world are you doing?
22:54
Bring your phone into the shore? What?
22:57
That's the first problem, the 1st No, no, we can't say, you
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know, I, I've, I've gone to Robin and I, I've asked, you
23:03
know, would you, could you please consider making a rule
23:06
that you can't bring a phone into the show?
23:08
I can't do it that people don't like it.
23:10
So then, so why do you have the job to make money?
23:13
So go buy a nursing home if you want to make money.
23:15
Do you want to be rough and you're afraid to say that, you
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know, a phone does not belong in the show?
23:23
It's such a basic thing. I mean, people, I, I see people
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on in shul, I don't know, they're watching Netflix.
23:30
I see people, they're doing banking.
23:32
I see people watching the Knick game.
23:35
Wow. Not just in that.
23:38
That's not just in America. What would somebody would
23:44
somebody come into a shul with a big screen?
23:47
No. No, no, like with the on a
23:49
wheelbarrow, bring in a big screen television and while he's
23:53
saying bro Shama, sit back with a bag of popcorn and watch, you
23:57
know, somebody throw. So then why is it different?
23:59
Because it's on a little thing that then it's better.
24:03
So whose whose responsibility is it to educate the people?
24:08
Us, us. If you're afraid to say it, if
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you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
24:14
You're in the wrong profession. OK.
24:17
And why? And we're just not saying it
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because? I don't know, I can't why I
24:22
people are afraid. People are afraid, you know, the
24:26
there this is this is a historic issue.
24:31
There's a historic problem. In other words, you know, you
24:35
have a lot of shules. So who's who's running the show?
24:39
People paying the rub or the rub.
24:44
So if you want to go into this job, you have to have a
24:48
backbone, you know, Loiso groom with naish.
24:54
So you say no, no, no. But people are emotionally, they
24:58
can't, you know, you have to explain in a straightforward
25:03
way. What what?
25:06
There's a God. There's something called prayer.
25:10
There's something called the Bass Hakanesus.
25:13
I'm saying you have, you have people who are learning in Kaila
25:15
and that there's they're sitting next to their phone and they're
25:17
back and forth between the safer and the phone the whole day.
25:20
So, yeah, it requires, I don't know what it requires, some
25:26
level of courageous leadership to, you know, call, you know,
25:30
call spade a spade. And if Sam doesn't listen, then
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what? Kuzam why wouldn't the majority
25:38
of people listen? I feel like the majority of
25:42
people wouldn't really listen. Would not listen.
25:45
Up to to cold Turkey. I don't think they wouldn't.
25:49
I'd like to be wrong. The last thing, I'd love to be
25:52
wrong, but do you think that every call you go to, every
25:55
issue, if you go to and every show I go to, you say no phones,
25:57
they'll say sure of I'll put it away.
25:59
If I say I'm not, I'm not. I'm not saying you, I'm saying
26:02
I'm saying we're talking about upcoming leaders.
26:05
A person gets a job in a show first day, we're going to throw
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away the phones. Is that going to work?
26:12
No, we're not going to throw it away.
26:15
When you leave the premises, you take your phone, you take your
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phone with you. Do you believe in doing it in
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stages or do you think it has to be Mila Shamelai?
26:24
In stages, What does that mean in stages?
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Year one we only bring it in for 10 minutes a day.
26:31
Year 2, you know, we bring it in for 9 minutes.
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I don't know what it looks like. For me personally, I like the
26:37
Mila Shamelai approach in general.
26:39
Meaning if something's treated, it's blank and that's it, yeah.
26:42
I, I, I don't, I don't know that you have to take out a sword and
26:45
say Mila Shamilai and start, you know.
26:49
It worked well with Mila Shamilai.
26:50
It worked well. But I don't know, on issues like
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this, I've gone into shules that I remember being there 40 years
27:05
ago and with all the programs and all the initiatives, you
27:09
know, the same Hebraman, they're still doing the same thing.
27:14
They're still in the rabbit. They're still, you know, look, I
27:23
understand a lot of rubble are in a position where you know,
27:26
they're they don't, they can't do it.
27:29
They can't do it because the people are going to say, you
27:33
know, you're out of here. But maybe something has to be
27:37
thought about the, the, the make up of the way certain
27:44
institutions are run. You know, for example, I'm, I,
27:47
I'm aware of three Shoals besides my own, which I also
27:51
it's my, it's my own place. OK, three Shoals in the greater
27:55
New York area where, you know, there's no talking and, and the
28:00
Shoal is, let's say proper decorum and covadat fila and all
28:05
thing. All three have one thing in
28:07
common. It's the rabbi shul.
28:09
Yeah. So then now why is that?
28:12
Is it, is it just, well, if it's rabbi shul, then people have to
28:15
listen. No, there's a psychology to it.
28:18
The psychology is that if you know, this is the rule.
28:22
So if you're going to come into the the shul, you know what the
28:26
house rules are. You know, to me it almost seems
28:31
like when, when the rabbi or the, OR the Rasha Shiva, when
28:35
it's his place, the psychology of people are we're not going to
28:40
challenge it. You know why?
28:42
Because there's no point. There's no point.
28:46
It's not our place. It's, it's like you're not going
28:48
to go into someone else's house. Imagine if the rule was you have
28:51
to take off your shoes. You're not going to go in and
28:53
like test the waters like, you know, wear my shoes.
28:57
Let's see if, you know, power struggle.
28:59
We empower struggle. He's the authority.
29:02
You're not the authority. There can't be a power struggle.
29:05
So psychologically you're you're going in there.
29:09
I think the same way with Shules.
29:11
People understand there's no power struggle because you're
29:13
not a Bardea. There's no discussion.
29:17
There's no discussion and and therefore if there's no
29:19
discussion, there's no confrontation, There's no
29:23
there's no conflict. I always, I, I like to consider
29:29
myself a student of history. The Hida in his firm writes
29:33
about when he went to Amsterdam and he was offered the job in
29:36
Amsterdam. Hida talks about the pre Kadash,
29:39
that the pre Kadash was offered to be the rub in Amsterdam and
29:42
he turned it out. He turned it down.
29:44
Why? Because you know that they offer
29:47
the job to the pre Kadash and then maybe they offered him more
29:49
money. And then the board met with the
29:50
pre Kadash and the board told the pre Kadash what they wanted.
29:54
And the pre Kadash walked and the Fida writes Ashrae khelkae,
29:59
Ashrae khelkae of because he saw that they didn't actually want
30:05
rabbi. They wanted someone who they
30:08
could say they have the pre Kadash as the rabbi and he's
30:11
going to sit there up front looking good.
30:13
And they're going to put his name on top of the stationary.
30:16
And after simhas, they're going to bring in their father-in-law,
30:18
their family, their friends say, hey, look who I have up there.
30:21
We have the pre Kadash, but the but they don't want him up there
30:25
to tell them how to live or what to do.
30:27
So he walked. What's the pert?
30:28
What's the point? What's the point?
30:32
If I'm not mistaken, in, in in Canada, there was once a very
30:38
wealthy person who gave the Rabbani a lot of money to be
30:42
financially independent. And it turns out many of them
30:46
invested with him and they lost their money, except for one
30:48
particular one. But there was, there was
30:52
initiative to, so to speak, restructure, to restructure the
30:56
way institutions work. You know, I think the way shuls
31:02
operate where it's run by the people is dangerous.
31:09
How could that by definition is not leadership?
31:12
How could leadership be, you know, we'll, we pay your salary
31:19
and we tell you what to do. So now what?
31:22
And but we want you to lead us. No, we want you to to lead us.
31:26
If we're pleased with what you're saying, So can that is
31:31
that valuable? Is that is that is that going to
31:35
create meaningful growth in people?
31:39
She's suggesting a totally new model of myridosterous, totally
31:42
model of Schultz going forward. You think that'd be optimal?
31:45
Yeah, absolutely. And yeshiva salsa.
31:49
Oh, how are you going to do that?
31:50
So that's, you know, it happened to me in the Shiva.
31:52
I learned in the Hub's time network of yeshivas.
31:54
So their operating principle is the rush yeshiva is the board.
31:59
There is no board that cannot be a board.
32:00
If there's a board, they close down, they should.
32:03
So I mean, you can understand that.
32:06
I mean, yeah, I don't have a board.
32:07
Yeah. Yeah.
32:09
The problem though is then the problem is the money.
32:13
Yep, that's the big problem. But that's the catch 22 but.
32:16
We have a big viewer up there. You have a big boss.
32:18
You have a big viewer, big boss as a global mechanic.
32:21
What a global mechanic? I need to know because it's very
32:24
different. It's very, if you're not
32:25
teaching 5 people, you're not teaching 10 people, you're not
32:28
teaching just Americans. So is a, is a global vision
32:31
global mechanic? What should we know?
32:37
You have very unique experiences.
32:46
Don't forget about the people close to you.
32:48
You know, at the end of the day, you have your home base.
32:55
You know, it's like almost. Did he make the party first for
33:00
the people in Shushan or the people outside of Shushan?
33:02
According to the Mando, We made the people for Shushan first,
33:05
you know, because that's his home turf.
33:07
But there's another opinion note.
33:09
You know, he first made it to the outside because he he felt
33:11
he could always galvanized the people near him.
33:14
I think you always have to ensure that you know, you have
33:17
your your people that are close to you, that have your back.
33:22
You know, you have to don't forget about them.
33:25
You have to like put your focus on them.
33:29
First of all, the impact you're going to have on on live
33:32
audience I think is more is deeper and more compelling than
33:36
whatever ripple effect you have from people who listen to you
33:39
electronically. And you always need, you always
33:43
need home base. Because of the the the
33:47
difficulty of more focus being required of you is that.
33:50
Is that what you mean? Because at the end of the day,
33:54
you got to go home and you know, you're with them, you're with
33:57
them on Shabbos, you're with them on Yum taevim and you know,
34:03
they're giving you loyalty that they're allowing you to.
34:08
Most of our bottoms, they have to be in there.
34:09
So every single shop is day in and day out.
34:12
So if they're sticking with you, even though you're not there day
34:14
in, day out, you have to, you know, what I would say is
34:19
loyalty, being loyal to the people who are loyal to you.
34:22
I think loyalty is a mida today that's also very flimsy.
34:27
Very. I think loyalty used to be a
34:31
greater value and you know, people should have loyalty to
34:35
their rabbanim. For sure.
34:38
And the rabbanim should have loyalty to the people who stick
34:41
with him. Why do you say that as a
34:43
mechanic? What?
34:44
What is that a mechanic? Yeah, meaning a global mechanic.
34:46
Why do you say that? Dafta as a as a global mechanic,
34:49
they should remember loyalty in in their home base.
34:54
It's like Kakar Satayev, you know they're.
34:56
No, I'm saying like what is that like?
34:57
Like what do you mean? Because because you'll have a
34:59
whole bunch of Tamidim in Brazil that want you to come for a
35:02
Yamptiv, but your loyalty is with your kids.
35:05
Is that what that means or just? Like yes, to be there for them,
35:11
you know? Even when other people are
35:14
requesting your attention. Look, that's, that's the, that's
35:17
the challenge of my life to balance, you know, different
35:20
opportunities with my responsibilities on Homefront,
35:23
you know, so. Right, 100% and as someone
35:27
that's giving so much to the M for people that also giving a
35:30
lot over, what would you tell them in regards to their their
35:33
families? Like, because it's hard to
35:35
juggle everything, right? And so kids need our attention.
35:39
So maybe there's a few things that you want to tell people
35:41
that are up and coming to pay attention to in regards to
35:44
Demersh Baha. Yeah, look.
35:48
This question I get a lot by the way, I'm really curious to how
35:50
you answer it. Yeah.
35:52
I'm always asking myself that that question, you know, am I
35:56
spending enough time with my kids?
35:57
Am I giving them enough time? I have, I have kids who are
36:00
teenagers who are almost, you know, older and, and I say, you
36:04
know what? I, I have to take up time and,
36:06
you know, go learn with them and yeshiva or learn with them on
36:08
the phone. And I think going back to
36:11
something you said earlier is Arayas, you know, if somebody
36:14
has the opportunity to teach beyond their daladamas.
36:21
So one thing, you know, I always brought my kids with me.
36:24
They usually help me out with different things and I think
36:27
that they really enjoy that so. Wow, that's, that's a very
36:31
beautiful thing. Is there something that you feel
36:36
everyone, so not just Mahankham, not just the, not just kids, not
36:40
just adults going forward with all this new, as you said
36:44
earlier, the AI generation, things are changing really
36:47
rapidly. And with all the pluses and
36:49
negatives that we have, what's, what are we looking forward to?
36:53
What should what should Kleinfeld be focusing on as we
36:55
take the next step, hopefully right before the Ecwis of the
36:58
Mashika. What's what's, what's the yellow
37:00
brick road, for lack of a better term?
37:02
Yeah. What's der Hamelich?
37:09
I think to teach our kids that even though day-to-day sometimes
37:16
things look very difficult in the last 70 years, think about
37:21
it, Kaiso was decimated 70 years ago, but since then they're
37:26
bunched. Some gave us Artsu Saral Taira's
37:29
flourishing, like it never flourished in history.
37:34
And I think it's an expression. Rib Schwab.
37:36
You quoted rib Schwab before. He has an amazing teaching and I
37:40
always like to say it over. We say I have a rabba, I have
37:43
tano Hashem alaikeno, that rabba doesn't mean with a great love,
37:47
but rabba means an ever increasing love, that Hashem's
37:50
love for US is ever increasing. And as much as Hashem loved our
37:54
grandparents, he loved our parents more and he loves us
37:58
more. And you could tell your children
38:01
Hashem will love you even more. And I always like to say when I
38:05
was growing up, yeah, you know how we know this?
38:07
Because when I was growing up, they didn't have art school
38:09
gemaras. And if you had a Bakiya's test
38:13
and you weren't paying attention, you had to open up a
38:15
sensino. And what was more difficult
38:18
though, Aramaic or the ancient English, right?
38:22
And then all of a sudden they came out with art scroll.
38:24
So now, so now as I'm growing up, Hashem loves me even more.
38:28
But my kids have art scroll taisus and they have misifta and
38:33
they have shurim that they can listen to on any topic.
38:36
So the explosion of Tara is is an expression of Hashem's love
38:39
for Claudius Rao and and the great things are in store for us
38:45
in the future. So basically, hold on tight and
38:49
brace yourself. But there's the sashem.
38:52
Vivanshem will will show us great things coming attractions
38:57
for the Jewish people. Great.
38:58
Sashem, I have one final question and I think we need a
39:01
part raising children and anom that are deep thinkers.
39:10
How do you do that? So we spoke before about Schnuck
39:14
capricious. I think it's helpful, right?
39:16
But how do we get our kids to be thoughtful?
39:18
How do we get our adult Tommy them to not just follow halacha,
39:23
but to live tower in a very real way?
39:25
It's very nice that, you know, cut Shin Balpet, but how do we
39:29
make the tower more the Hova salivas?
39:31
How do we get the Hova Salivas down, not just the Hova saliva?
39:34
You ready? Ready.
39:36
You have to learn how to salvavas and you have to learn
39:39
Masila Susharam and the person has to learn Musser regularly
39:46
because that takes all the data and brings it to the lab.
39:51
Every Worldwick told me once, he says if you're a buckler and
39:53
you're not learning Musser every day, you're stupid.
39:56
If you're on a break, you're not learning Musser every day.
39:58
That's just suicide. So it's definitely hoshev.
40:01
But what if our kids are, you know, 456 years old?
40:04
I can't sit down and learn with them.
40:06
Hovis all the Volvos. You know, so how do we do that?
40:09
And, or, and and maybe maybe, you know, we'll have all about
40:12
them and they're very busy and they don't have time to close.
40:13
They'll love us be in. So how do we how do we teach it
40:17
to them? In perhaps a beginner's way?
40:19
Yeah. The the teacher, the Rebbe, the
40:24
rob has the model at you know and rush us and and teachings
40:29
and personal behavior. And Hashem should give us all
40:34
sia de de shmaya to in showing our children the right path and
40:40
developing the right Derek for ourselves, for our families, for
40:44
our kahilais. And we should all be Zakha to
40:47
see good things for Kali Sobhakarov on.
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Me. Thank you very much.