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Episode 58 King and Queen of the Ring! · Podcast Championship Wrestling

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  The moment an idea becomes an obsession signifies the beginning of a champion's journey,
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  an opportunity to take the throne, defend what's already yours and deliver a massive
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  spectacle, an absolutely incredible scene in front of the world show time to night
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  in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. It's no longer about how far you've come,
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  but how high you will said. This is what it's all about,
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  the moment, the emotion. Remember this. Every journey starts with a spark
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  of an idea, and what we make of our obsessions becomes our destiny.
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  This is w W King and Queen of the Ring and now live from the
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  Jetta Superdome in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia presents the King and Queen of the
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  Ring. You are looking live in the Jetta Supernome in the Kingdom of Saudi
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  Arabia. We are sold out tonight with three championship matches and we were also
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  crowned. Take King and Queen of the Rag. Hey, this is WWE
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  and NCW alumni the Bloomeni and you're listening to pc W. The question is,
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  oh you when I talk to I will give you a show like you
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  have never ever seen the pot of life because I can't. What do you
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  guys want to talk about me? I think from the colored red in a
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  world with a black and white either a world. Yeah, let's you alf
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  if you don't excuse the chapel. What's a bigger bad? You got a
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  bigger bad? What I said? WHOA right here, ladies and gentlemen,
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  boys and girls, chill and involve asies. Welcome to another episode of PCW
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  podcast Championship Wrestling. I am your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dry
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  Chicken, And what we do here is we bring you the news. We
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  bring you the reviews of the of these pay per views for w W,
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  and this time we went all the way to Jetta where it was hot as
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  ship, I bet. And we're just gonna give you the uh, the
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  review of the pay per view, how how we think it went, where
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  it's gonna go. And you know what, it's gonna be a little different
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  tonight. It's just gonna be a two man booth. Uh. I think
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  Doyle is still in France. I still think he is. He's inn Leon
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  France still and it looks like we may have left Carlos and Jetta. This
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  is this is becoming a problem. But you know what, who's here with
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  me? Let me bring him in, Dre. Welcome back, bud Yo
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  Yo would do PCW crew? Yeah, man, two man crews to night.
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  This is the first episode ever we're doing just two guys. Uh.
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  You know what though, but WW commentary has been two guys for many,
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  many years, and uh, you know what, if you have the right
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  to guys, it works. Uh you know Taz and Michael Cole, Jerry
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  the King Lawler and and good old j R. You know, there's just
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  I'm sure there's tons of other two man commentary groups that do well. But
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  uh, it looks like, yeah, we may have left Doyle is still
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  in France, and then we we left Carlos and Jetta. This is becoming
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  a problem because next pay per view is clashed at the Castle and I don't
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  know where that's being held exactly. But and classes in Scotland. Oh yeah,
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  yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it ain't that far for Doyld
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  And you know, if he's still in France, you know he can just
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  hop on a quick mud skip up the way. Yeah yeah, dude,
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  I was you know what this as predictable. As this pay per view was,
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  it wasn't all that bad. I was kind of shocked by some of
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  the decisions they made, and we'll talk about that then. I mean,
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  this is right off of backlash in France, which which I think I think
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  that was a pretty good pay per view. I mean, I really enjoy
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  any I still call them pay per views. Look at me being the old
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  guy that I am pls. I enjoy these pls that are outside the country.
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  It's so cool to see how WW takes to crowds in like France and
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  and well we know how they've taken Jedda, but France was a very interesting
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  one, and and Puerto Rico last year, and they've been to Australia before,
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  you know so, and Clash of the Castles coming up. I think
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  they advertised that they're going to be coming back for Crown Jewel. I think
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  it's in November. Yeah, yeah, me a Crown Jewel is probably the
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  next Saudi one. And I mean they're probably used to getting these somewhat used
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  to getting these shows now, Like they know they're getting two a year and
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  they're gonna be two big shows every year, so they they they're not as
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  bad as you know us over here in the States that just take this ship
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  for granted. But they also it's not as special for them as say France
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  or Australia, who get this once every couple of years, you know,
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  once in a blue moon. So you know, they're a lively crowd,
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  but they're just I would say they're probably of the equivalent of like a really
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  good US crowd, like a good Chicago or good New York crowd. At
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  this point, for Saudis, I lose you there, embarrassing. I was
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  muted. Oh my god, I'm not even gonna edit that out. I'm
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  gonna leave that in there. That that that five seconds of silence. Yeah,
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  just that awkward silence to my whole spiel about the Saudi crowd. Now
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  I'm an asshole, and you're like, man, he didn't give a shit
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  about my opinion at all on the Sadi crowd, Like, yeah, they're
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  just a good American crowded dude, fucking no, I this is like their
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  WrestleMania and they're so lucky to get it twice in a year, and uh
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  yeah they're gonna be They're gonna getting it one more time in November for crown
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  jewel. Uh. But you know what they you know, King of the
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  Ring isn't something we get every year. I was telling Andrew and she was
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  watching and she's like, well, what was last ye who won last year?
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  And like the year before that? And I was like, you know,
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  it's hard to remember because there we went over at I'm not gonna go
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  over him again, but we went through all the past winners last episode,
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  and it's just it's just this this gimmick match that has come and gone,
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  and it seems like maybe this would be like the perfect place for it every
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  year, if you want to do it in Saudi Like. Uh. I
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  like the idea that they incorporated a title match for the winner, because I
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  mean, come on, shouldn't you deserve You've gone that far right in a
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  tournament? You think it deserves something better than a crown, because yeah,
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  I mean it needs to mean something, right, It can't just be like
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  That's the problem that the King of the Ring had for so many years was
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  that it was put on people and it didn't amount to anything. It's like,
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  okay, you got this thing now it's just a little wrinkled you can
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  add to your gimmick. But it ultimately didn't change who you were, Like,
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  you didn't become champion, you didn't get pushed up the car, you
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  weren't the next guy in line, and you none of that. You were
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  just I'm the King. Okay, who do you do? You still suck?
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  We still don't care? Doesn't mean anything, And it didn't really do
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  anything even when they added the Queen of the Ring, like it made a
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  nice thing for Zelena Vega, you know, gave her an actual gimmick to
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  her character for a while, but it didn't translate to any success for her
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  or any type of elevation of her status. So at least with this,
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  and given who wound up winning, and the fact that they're getting title shots
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  and not just you know, title shots on like a random episode of Raw
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  or random episode of SmackDown, but title shots at SummerSlam, you know this
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  they're trying. It's a genuine effort to elevate the King of the Ring to
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  being the next thing like who knows. Obviously it's just forward projecting, but
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  years from now, King of the Ring could be like the you know,
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  but an equivalent to the Royal Rumble almost in a sense, you know,
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  word gets the WrestleMania match. King of the Wing winner gets the Summer Slam
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  match, especially now that, as we know, they're trying to turn Summer
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  Slam into the WrestleMania of the Summer, instance by making it a two date
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  event. So I think about that plan in place. Yeah, that's pretty
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  smart, dude, Like I didn't even think about that, like having you
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  know, definitely having the winner you know, fight somebody at SummerSlam, but
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  like making that the are you know, the royal rumblet? Dude, You're
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  onto something, dude, You're really onto something there, because I think that's
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  exactly what they're doing, because they have the time to make this, you
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  know, like add more prestige to the King. They ain't making it important
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  again, they have time before that Summer Slam to day deal goes into effect.
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  You know, like, man, who whoever these champions are right now?
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  They know what's waiting for them at summerslams who the champion is now,
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  Priest knows who's waiting for Hi his Summer Slam. You know, Bailey knows
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  who's waiting for her, regardless of what happens between now and then, or
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  if a title should change between now and then, that's that's I've been waiting
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  for them, just like with the World Rumble. Yeah yeah, like,
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  that's that's short. And we've seen that before between The Rumble and WrestleMania where
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  that title changes hands. So like that by the end of the night Rumble
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  of the Rumble, you're like, oh, we're totally gonna see so and
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  so versus so and so, like not necessarily exactly, it's still got another
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  pay per view or two between exactly. The perfect example of that is two
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  thousand and one, Stone Cold Steve Auston won the World Rumble, but at
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  the Royal Rumble Kurrent Angle was champion. Next pay per view, No Way
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  Out, kurd Angle dropped lost the title to The Rock, setting up Rock
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  versus Stone Cold as something at WrestleMania that year. Yep, brilliant. Uh
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  well, let's get in this paper on this pla here. But before uh,
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  I like we get into our first match, dude, I want to
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  say how this was a four hour If you go on to Peacock, it's
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  ay, four hour, thirty one minute and five second pl Now. I
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  feel so bad for the people who couldn't fast forward because if you're looking specifically
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  four matches, I will give you, like the timestam. So like,
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  if if you're looking for the tag team match that they didn't like that was
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  the Kickoff Show match, you're gonna want to fast forward one hour and twenty
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  three minutes into the pl E because it's just Kickoff Show. And then and
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  then if you want to actually kick off the pl E, you're gonna wanna
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  fast forward one hour and fifty minutes into it before you get to like the
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  actual pl E before the warning sign comes up, and then the actual promo,
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  which, by the way, you just gave me two hours a fucking
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  kickoff showing promos and you have the balls to give me another video package or
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  what I'm sitting here for. Yeah, dude, come on, I mean
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  yeah, I can I get your frustration. I can say I was grateful.
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  Then I saw the replay. I did not watch it live, so
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  yeah, I hit the replay button to watch it, and I see,
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  like, okay, kickoff, So I'm like, okay, okay, they
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  look I'm just thinking, all right, they lumped the Kickoff Show into the
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  klu YadA YadA. I'm thinking it's gonna be like, okay an hour,
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  so let me fast forward through the first hour. Yeah, I hit the
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  hour market. I'm play like this motherfucker still going, Yeah, like what
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  the hell is it? Like? Wait? And I knew that the the
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  women's tag title match was part of the kickoff show, so I'm like,
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  did I miss it? I tried to rewind back a little bit, like
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  no, no, it wasn't there. This shit kept going. So then
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  I fast forward trying to find the women's tag title match. Ye yep,
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  because I'm thinking, Okay, that's the end of the Kickoff Show. I
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  figure like that'll be the last thing for the Kickoff show. Did not jump
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  into the pl and yeah, it was like damn there an hour and a
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  half before I got to that shit. I'm like, the fuck was this
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  on Saturday? Yeah? Yeah? Like was this the live show? Like
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  when they said it started at what one pm or something Saturday? Like,
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  is this what started at one pm? Yeah, That's what I was wondering.
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  I didn't get to see it live, so I don't know, to
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  be honest, And if that was the case, I would have been pissed,
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  dude, because if I would have ran home. You know, this
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  is like during this PL it was a nice day. People were its Memorial
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  Day weekend. And then, by the way, this is the problem that
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  WW has scheduling pls around holidays that we're spending with our families. So I'm
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  not gonna be there watching this shit live. I'm spending with my family,
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  so I'm gonna have to come home and watch this. I gotta avoid social
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  media, I gotta avoid you know everything. Uh, but you know this
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  is this is the same feeling I get, like when I go to the
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  fucking movies and I get a half hour of theoretrical trailers, not even trailers,
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  just ads, And then you have the balls for have Nicole Kidman tell
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  me to buy a fucking ticket for AMC theaters. When I'm sitting in AMC
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  theaters, you know, it's like showtimes at seven o'clock. You're rushing to
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  get to the theater at seven o'clock just to sit through twenty thirty minutes of
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  fucking as in trailers before the actual movie starts. Yeah, Like, you
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  know, it's like, we're here, dude, you don't need to sell
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  me on these matches. I'm here, We're already here, I'm already watching.
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  The people who are buying the ticket are like we're here. The only
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  thing I can think of the reasoning for this is this is what's going on.
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  They want you to see the arena getting filled. I understand the the
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  kickoff table. It's it's very similar to what we do on this show.
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  Just you know, we're doing in a podcast worm But they go on and
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  on and on and they loop back to matches. I mean they were doing
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  they were talking about certain matches and like, okay, they're done talking about
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  them all. Now we're gonna start right. No, now it's like we're
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  gonna loop back and talk about him again, or we're gonna talk to this
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  wrestler about this match. Like no, like I'm tired of I'm tired of
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  these now. The kickoff show used to be a half hour. Used to
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  be a half hour back in the day. Back in my day, it
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  used to be a half hour. We used to have like some fhlocity or
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  main events, some fucking match, right, and then the pay per view
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  would kick off and then that was it. And then they started incorporating the
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  kickoff show like what they have now where it's the panel that was like an
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  hour and then I was like, okay, that's pushing it. But now
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  yeah, sons of bitches. Now you're dragging it out to like two hours.
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  Yeah, but this is well, we know why they extended the kickoff
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  showing on stuff. This is just more of WWE's quest to become sports adjacent.
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  I know, like every or think you have has a pregame show and
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  it's usually about an hour. Whether it's the NBA or the NFL, they
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  all got their pregame shows talking about this, that and the third and everything
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  going on with it before each pl E and before the big stuff you know
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  like the Super Bowls or your playoff games or championship games. With this,
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  that and the third, they have longer shows. And obviously, you know,
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  King of the Ring, if they're trying to elevate this pl to being
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  you know, one of substance and not just your run of the mill show,
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  then they're going to give it a longer you know, a longer lead
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  and a longer pre show. That being said, they need to find a
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  better way to fill in the time than just talking about the pl Like,
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  if they wanted to do it, what they could do is they could take
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  a page out of say like the NFL's book or something like that and use
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  the fact that it's a pl E. Use the fact that you're have a
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  larger than normal audience. Then say for your typical Raw or SmackDown and this,
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  and rather than just talking about just the p l E and just that,
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  use that to talk about your entire product. Talk about the p l
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  E. Talk about other things that are happening on Raw or SmackDown that may
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  not be there aren't being featured on, you know, the p l E
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  tonight. Use it to talk about what's going on in NXT. Get more
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  people's attention on that, just like you know, you like your NFL you
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  know pregame show when they talk about week seven, they talk about the whole
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  week. Now, CBS isn't just talking about the games that they're broadcasting.
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  You know, if the Dallas and phil and the Eagles are playing on Fox,
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  they're still going to talk about it on c CBS. They're not gonna
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  be like, well, we're not broadcast in their game, so we're not
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  going to talk about it. No, they talk about the entire NFL.
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  They talk about the entire league. So wwe can use your ple pre shows
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  talk about the entire wwe talk about what's happening on the on the pl itself,
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  talk about Raw and other storylines, talk about SmackDown, talk about an
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  XT, talk about all of it. It's another way to bring more attention
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  to your product, get people who may not be following a particular thing like
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  NXT or something to get their attention, to draw their attention to it and
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  say like, hey, wow, we got your attention. Hey this thing
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  popping off over here. Oh man, I agree, talk about that like
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  I would like to leave it on. I don't even turn it on,
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  and I used to turn it on and leave it on in the background,
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  but I don't want to because it's just basically video packages are the same shit
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  running all day. Like you're right, dude. If there was, like
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  they were just like, hey, look this is what's going on NXT,
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  or this is an upcoming superstar, Like check this out from last week on
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  NXT. Check this out last week on Raw. On wrestlers who aren't on
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  the pay per view, like put eyes on other superstars. Like WW has
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  like one of the largest fucking rosters I think than any other wrestling company,
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  you know what I mean, Like you have so many people signed to your
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  roster, but we never see them and like, there's plenty of people on
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  there I can't name off the back of my hand. Because of this reason,
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  there are people who signed with the company who are on the on the
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  main roster that we never see wrestle. There's an NXT wrestler called Odyssey Jones.
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  I don't know if he rings a bell for you. Yes he was.
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  He was several years ago. He came out from NXT, was drafted
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  to the main roster, had I think one match, maybe never seen again.
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  Still with the company, by the way, I think recently he got
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  drafted back down to NXT, but still with the company. Like it's get
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  reminded that Apollo Cruise is still with w W and Cri Calexander, Like yeah,
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  it's like some of these guys don't have injuries. And another thing is
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  like, okay, you can't put like more matches during kickoff show, Like
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  I understand, like these are the folk main focused title matches. Then put
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  these non title matches, you know, you know, the smaller non title
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  matches, you know this put them on the kickoff show. You think that
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  people sitting in the arena don't want to sit there and stare at nothing for
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  two hours because obviously there's people filling in as soon as the show the kickoff
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  panel starts, and I'm just like, damn, like two hours. Like
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  I understand, like us get into our seats getting food, because this is
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  like us at Rustumena getting too our seats getting food. It was like maybe
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  forty five minutes maybe at the most. But I ain't need no two fucking
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  hours yet. Ready. But see that's what I was gonna say, Like,
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  I don't know if you necessarily need to fill in the pre show with
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  matches per se. I mean, it would be nice for Little record,
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  you know, to get checks or something, but the pre show itself just
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  for the I'm talking about for the viewing audience. Yeah, I'm in there
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  watching the pl at home. I don't need to see a bunch of pre
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  show matches that I'm not. I'm not hard pressed for that. You know,
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  you can make the coverage or make the pre show more interesting and more
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  worth watching, like I said, by highlighting more than just the pl itself,
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  more than just talking about the same, especially if you're getting in this
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  mood now where that Triple Ah is in where he wants to reduce the number
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  of matches on ples in order to give those matches more time to cook.
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  Well, if we only gonna get you know, five to six, maybe
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  seven at the most matches on a ple, you're gonna have a hard time
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  filling out two hours or an hour and a half of content talking about just
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  seven matches like it ain't that easy. So you need to come up with
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  more stuff to fill in the show, to fill out that time. And
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  yeah, maybe a pre show match, that's one way, but also talking
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  about more than just talking about the rest of your product, the rest of
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  what's going on, bringing in guest voices. You know, y'all partner it
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  up with UFC. Now, if y'all y'all want to do it, if
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  tk O wants to, you know, do some cross promo, talk about
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  hey, this is also happening over here in UFC, if you know,
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  as long as the UFC is gonna be like, hey, this is also
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  what's going on over in WWE, or you bring a UFC guy in and
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  get their thoughts or do something. But you need to come up with more
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  ways to fill in the time. Definitely, for sure, I don't necessarily
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  know that more matches on it are the are necessarily required because we weren't worried
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  about that at WrestleMania. I doubt people are really worried about that at other
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  PL shows either, because they're probably again filing in, getting their seats,
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  getting their food and long ass lines, tailgating or whatever, this, that,
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  and the third waiting just for the actual show itself. You don't necessarily
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  need more matches, but you do need something for the home audience that's watching.
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  Yeah, I agree. Yeah, let's actually let's get into this.
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  It's your call if you want to start off with the tag match or you
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  want to start off with the U the very first match. We can start
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  off with the tag match, but let's take a quick break before we do
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  that. Absolutely, absolutely all right, dip out of here. No.
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  For today's top story, The boy r D man kind I'm gonna w w
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  webs invaded New York. Please be able to look up. His intentions are
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  unknown. I mean, I say he never goes anywhere without his Chef boyrd
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  overstuffed beat Ravioli, and his call is unmistakable. Beat me. Let's nest.
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  The hearty goodness of Chef BOYRD definitely beats the knap. It's the perfect
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  Ravioli. We're all mankind already and we are back. We are ready to
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  kick off this pl e and dig in here. We're gonna talk about the
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  kick off show match. I'm gonna give the reins over to dre yep So
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  kickoff match was the Women's Tag Team Championship match featuring Tag Team champions Bianca Belaer
• 27:15
  and Jay Cargill defending against team of Indy Hartwell and Candace lay So. This
• 27:23
  match, obviously, you know, being a kickoff match, not really much
• 27:29
  you can expect in the way of surprises or anything of that nature. But
• 27:32
  it was nevertheless still a good match. They had decent back and forth action.
• 27:40
  Kandas and Indy did good by focusing on Bionca's injury and her leg,
• 27:47
  targeting that for most of the match. Jay did her part by you know,
• 27:51
  coming in and getting you know the quote unquote heroes comeback rolling doing that.
• 27:56
  And she still obviously still learned, but you can see that she's getting
• 28:00
  better and she's getting more comfortable. Yeah, every time she's in the ring,
• 28:04
  you're not seeing her looking lost or looking you know, like she's confused
• 28:10
  at any point. She's being brought along. I think, as I said
• 28:14
  last time, we saw her in a major match. She's being brought along
• 28:18
  gradually and they're not putting too much on her at one time. And this
• 28:26
  match, she's in there working with you know, three veterans or three experienced
• 28:30
  people, and indeed Canvas and obviously with Bianca, you know, guiding her
• 28:34
  along the way. And it was a good match. The best thing I
• 28:37
  can say about it was a good match that I didn't see any major mistakes
• 28:41
  or botches. I was a little surprised that they won with just that move
• 28:47
  of that we saw from the previous match together where j car Gill holds their
• 28:53
  opponent up, Bianca hits the DDT and then kicks her off with her legs
• 29:00
  into a fallaway slam, which again, nice ass combo. I was surprised
• 29:06
  that that's all it took to beat them. We didn't get any kod or
• 29:10
  any jaded in this match, which I don't know if that says I don't
• 29:18
  know if that speaks good for Candae in Indie. The fact that they weren't
• 29:22
  necessarily worthy of their finishers. Yeah, but nevertheless, you know it's a
• 29:27
  it's a pre pl kickoff match, so you know, it served its purpose.
• 29:33
  It was good it was entertaining and the crowd was into it. They
• 29:36
  loved it. Jade again continues to show progress. Every time she's in the
• 29:41
  ring. She's getting better and better. So it served its purpose. It
• 29:45
  did what it It did what it was supposed to do. What were your
• 29:47
  thoughts on it? No, you're right, you're right. Man totally served
• 29:49
  his purpose. A good kickoff showed the you know, just for the record,
• 29:55
  I mean being in Jedda to have a kickoff showed. Even just to
• 29:56
  have more women on the roster in general a big deal. So like them
• 30:02
  getting in the kickoff show, like for women being able to put on a
• 30:06
  match because a couple of years ago that wasn't possible, Like you know,
• 30:11
  the first Matt Women's was Natalia and Lacy Evans, and so like this,
• 30:17
  this is this is good for them. I think, uh, you know
• 30:19
  what, what like you're right to what better people to work with? And
• 30:23
  you know some you know, not like older veterans, but veterans in the
• 30:27
  company h Cannice and India or good wrestlers to put them in there, they
• 30:33
  got to make them look strong. And you figure, if they're building these
• 30:38
  two up to be a strong tag team, they have to start basically knocking
• 30:44
  out all the teams. They have to start just you know, smashing and
• 30:48
  crashing all the other tag teams out there. And this is where it begins.
• 30:52
  This is this is the start of a long rain, a long good
• 30:57
  rain. So they have to crush teams like Cannie and India. I know,
• 31:02
  people were like, really, this is the first tag match we're getting,
• 31:06
  Like, yeah, this is where it starts. They're gonna start from
• 31:10
  the bottom and they're gonna work their way up until we get to a point
• 31:14
  where we see an actual threat. Like you know, I right now,
• 31:19
  I don't see anybody on the roster right now as a tag team that I
• 31:23
  think is a threat. Not yet, but they're working. This was a
• 31:30
  pretty clean match. I didn't see any botches. I think Jay did pretty
• 31:33
  well. The crowd loved it when she got tagged in for the hot tag
• 31:37
  because you know, they haven't seen her over there. In Jedta the you
• 31:42
  will notice that the women will have very unique outfits, very different than what
• 31:49
  everybody's used to because they have to dress differently, basically cover from head to
• 31:55
  toe. They're allowed to show their hands. But I mean it was it's
• 32:00
  kind of crazy. But uh, you know, everybody's wearing a one piece
• 32:04
  suit. Almost before when they first did this, they would wear like extra
• 32:08
  extra, extra extra large shirts T shirts and wrestling those it looked hilarious.
• 32:15
  Uh I'm glad we're past that. We're now into the like the onesies,
• 32:20
  they kind of decorate them their own way, you know, put a little
• 32:23
  something on them, like, uh, Jade and Bianca looked like two sticks
• 32:29
  of gum and there these pink outfits would look will look like a little bit
• 32:34
  of tinfoil stuck to them. But uh no, I mean everybody's got a
• 32:38
  unique outfit of some kind. All the women do. They make it work.
• 32:44
  I'm just happy to see uh more women on on this card in you
• 32:50
  know, in this where they're at because you know, like I said,
• 32:53
  a couple of years ago, that wasn't that wasn't possible. So but yeah,
• 32:58
  good good match to kick off the show. It sucks that you have
• 33:01
  to wait an hour and twenty three minutes for this and then wait another hour
• 33:09
  and fifty minutes until it actually starts. So and dude, the finisher very
• 33:16
  weird. I think it's just them trying to find one that works for them.
• 33:22
  It is very odd, like Jade grabs like cannas by like the hips
• 33:27
  and cans wraps her legs around her and Kansas is facing down, and then
• 33:31
  Bianca looks like she's getting ready to give her like a d D. Yeah,
• 33:35
  she gives her like a DDT and then with the momentum of her coming
• 33:38
  back up, sorry, Bianca catapults her with her foot and Jay kind of
• 33:44
  does like a German suplex. Yeah, it was unique. It's a dope
• 33:47
  move. Yeah, I've never seen something done like that before. Yeah,
• 33:51
  I was just like, it just kind of surprised me that that was the
• 33:54
  move that won the match, because when they fought Oscar and Kyrie, we
• 34:00
  saw that same move, but it was just a move that was done in
• 34:02
  the match. They still had to beat them with their own individual finishers.
• 34:07
  So it just kind of surprised me that Indy and and Candice Lay I guess,
• 34:12
  weren't worthy of their finishers or weren't, you know, maybe taken enough
• 34:16
  challengers to warrant them have to be used their finishers. Like all they needed
• 34:20
  was just this move and that was it. Yeah, I just show that
• 34:22
  they can put them away quickly. I mean, do they really need to
• 34:25
  like be kicking out of people's finishers right now, like and plus well,
• 34:31
  I know, not kicking out of them, but I mean we never even
• 34:34
  got to their finishers. Yeah, you're right, it didn't even need their
• 34:37
  finishers to put away candas in Indy. That's the thing, hey, that
• 34:39
  that's them just being booked strong right now, you know, like listen,
• 34:43
  like, we're just gonna put you away before you even like, you know,
• 34:46
  think about those two K games. Man, when you're wrestling some of
• 34:50
  your friends, it's like, Yo, I'm gonna put your ass away before
• 34:52
  you even get that sinister move, Like I won't even let you get a
• 34:54
  finisher. I'm gonna pin you before it happens. And then we've done that.
• 34:59
  We've all on that, And I think that's what J. D.
• 35:00
  Bioncar is Like, Hey, listen, like we're good, We're gonna put
• 35:05
  your way, and I bet as the teams progress, we won't see that
• 35:08
  because it's gonna get harder and harder and harder. But yeah, this is
• 35:13
  just the bottom of the barrel, man, Like, But isn't that also
• 35:16
  kind of wild that a champion that champions are starting at the bottom. Isn't
• 35:22
  it usually the wrestlers that are at the bottom, it is to work their
• 35:25
  way up to challenge the champion. It is. But I and I'm saying
• 35:30
  that, I'm not that's how they're booking it. But if that's how they're
• 35:34
  booking these women's champions, like they're the ones defending against all the tag teams
• 35:38
  starting from the bottom all the way up to the top, I'm gonna say
• 35:44
  that's kind of weird booking. I think that's an odd way to try to
• 35:47
  build up your tag team division by having your champions basically run through all of
• 35:53
  them. Because if they run through all of them, then who's left to
• 35:55
  challenge them? Yeah? No, No, you're absolutely man, who do
• 35:59
  you determined that is the top? How do you determine what team is the
• 36:04
  top? Like? If if that's the plan that they start from the bottom
• 36:07
  and work their way up, then how do you figure how do you figure
• 36:09
  out what that progression looks like? Like who's the next team after Candace and
• 36:15
  Indy? You know exactly? And is it? What is it? Uh?
• 36:22
  Ivy Nylon And I mean I say, uh, that's Alba Fire and
• 36:31
  and uh Maxine Dupre, Maxine Dupre. Yeah, if if are they considered
• 36:38
  to be higher up than Kandice and Andy personally? I wouldn't think so,
• 36:44
  so, I mean, I don't know that it's It's an interesting idea if
• 36:49
  that's what they're going for, but I don't know that that is the case.
• 36:52
  I think just right now, because it was a kickoff show, they
• 36:54
  didn't bother with putting, you know, a major team against them, even
• 37:00
  that was part of the pre show and not the PLI itself. We'll see
• 37:04
  how it goes from here as far as you know, how they booked their
• 37:07
  challengers because challengers. But uh, I don't know. I don't know that
• 37:13
  this match did anything for the women's tag division itself. I don't know that
• 37:16
  this match was even meant to do anything for the women's tag division anything that
• 37:21
  makes or breaks it. I mean, you have your top champions, at
• 37:25
  your big name stars at the top as champions. What they need to do
• 37:30
  is focus on everyone else in the division and building them up to be credible
• 37:37
  contenders against the champs. That's what they failed to do with when they had
• 37:43
  Ronda Rousey and Shannon Basler as the champions and we were like, okay,
• 37:47
  look we got a strong team that could be dominant. Let's see how they
• 37:52
  do that, and they dropped the ball with that. Well, now you
• 37:54
  got Bianca and Jay, two of the biggest stars in your women's division,
• 37:59
  holding the tag titles. You got to build up the rest of your tag
• 38:04
  team division to be worthy of challenging them, not using them to build up
• 38:09
  your tag division by crushing everybody else, and then the whole division just looks
• 38:14
  like trash. You're absolutely right, So hopefully whoever challenges them next is a
• 38:22
  worthy opponent. So let's move on to the first match. Well, it's
• 38:30
  technically the first match, yep. So this match it kicked off the pole
• 38:42
  with our what was it was the women's world title match, correct Sir Becky
• 38:46
  Lynch defending against Liv Morgan and apparently Live and Becky were doing their tribute to
• 38:57
  Britney Spears with their outfits, as some people have observed with Becky Lynch paying
• 39:05
  homage to uh Britney Spears and a v M a performance that she did I
• 39:12
  don't know what year, maybe two thousands, thousand one or so. Yeah,
• 39:15
  and it's called Liv Morgan paying homage to one of Brittany's music videos.
• 39:22
  Yeah, oops, I did it again. Video perhaps, I think so.
• 39:25
  Yeah, yeah, what an awesome outfit Live had. Oh yeah,
• 39:32
  they were there. They were dope outfits on both both fens actually especially and
• 39:37
  really I mean Liz moore Lives outfit was dope, but you know, it
• 39:40
  was just pretty much just a full body tight suit. I think I give
• 39:45
  more a little bit more credit to Becky Lynch and her outfit and the fact
• 39:47
  that she's kind of integrating a bit of a pantsuit into actual wrestling gear.
• 39:52
  Yeah, you know what we saw from Chris Stratus used to do years ago
• 39:59
  when she had that face where she had like the little cufflings as wristbands and
• 40:02
  all that stuff, and was kind of integrating that into her wrestling gear and
• 40:06
  making it like almost like business wrestling gear type thing. That was actually a
• 40:10
  dope looking her. But either way, both it's nice that the women are
• 40:15
  showing finding different ways to be creative with the limitations that are put on their
• 40:20
  wrestling gear for Saudi Arabia, the fact that they do have to be fully
• 40:23
  covered, and yet they're still finding ways to be creative with it and come
• 40:27
  up with unique looks and stand out with their gear and make it still something
• 40:30
  special. So credit to them on both to both of them for that,
• 40:36
  but getting into the match itself. Match yourself was good was another good match.
• 40:40
  It was a strong match to kick off the show again, back and
• 40:44
  forth, action not stop throughout it, and the finish was I don't know
• 40:52
  how much I liked the finish we saw. Basically what we saw was Dominic
• 40:58
  Mysterio come out to the ring stand at ring side to you know, a
• 41:04
  rock, his saboos from the crowd, and then at one point, while
• 41:08
  the referee is uh I think it was down or distracted checking on Live Morgan,
• 41:15
  Dominic throws a chair into the ring in Becky's direction, trying to signal
• 41:21
  for Becky Lynch to use the chair to help secure the wind and then he
• 41:25
  hops upon the apron to distract the referee. I'll go if he thought that
• 41:31
  Becky Lynch, the baby face, was gonna use the chair on Live Morgan,
• 41:36
  Why he thought that, I don't fucking know, but obviously his plan
• 41:40
  failed and uh live wind up but ddteing Becky Lynch onto the chair, yeah,
• 41:51
  and then throwing the chair to the outside, not fully all the way
• 41:54
  to the outside, but then hitting oblivion to pin Becky Lynch and become our
• 42:00
  new women's world champion. The part of that that just doesn't make any sense
• 42:05
  to me is one, why would now, I'm would throw something to a
• 42:10
  baby face thinking that a babyface is suddenly gonna use a foreign object to cheat
• 42:15
  to win when that just defies traditional wrestling logic. Two, why are you
• 42:25
  trying to distract the referee? And okay, if you jump up there to
• 42:30
  distract the referee and then you clearly see that your plan to give Becky Lynch
• 42:36
  the advantage with the chair has backfired because she just caught the DDT with the
• 42:39
  chair. Why are you staying up there on the apron and still distracting the
• 42:43
  referee? That should be that, if you're trying to help Becky Lynch,
• 42:46
  what should have happened was, oh shit, I feel all right, I'm
• 42:50
  out. Referee, turn around, turn around, turn around. She cheating,
• 42:52
  she's cheating, and then let the referee se Live Morgan cheat and then
• 42:55
  she gets dis qualified and she loses. If you were actually trying to help
• 42:59
  Becky, you would think that would be the case. So that just poses
• 43:04
  the question of was he really trying to help Becky Lynch or is he secretly
• 43:07
  in cahoots with Live Morgan. I'm assuming we'll find out the answer to that
• 43:15
  at some point, but yeah, I don't know. It just seemed like
• 43:17
  a little bit of sloppy booking on the finish, which kind of takes away
• 43:22
  from an otherwise great match. But the finish again was a bit sloppy in
• 43:28
  my opinion. What were your thoughts? Well, I mean, dude,
• 43:31
  I enjoyed this match. It's a good opening match if you didn't see the
• 43:35
  kickoff match. So you know, again, more women on this card,
• 43:40
  which isn't something we got a lot of. Actually, if there was more
• 43:45
  women on this card than there was men, which that's crazy because I wouldn't
• 43:52
  have thought that a couple of years ago. I mean, Bianca, Jay
• 43:55
  Kennis, Indy, Live Becky Nya liar Liar Valky that's that's eight? Uh
• 44:06
  yes, Sammy Chad six seven? Yeah, one more woman? Cool?
• 44:16
  Uh? I I like the outfits. I dig Live Morgan's outfhait probably my
• 44:22
  favorite one of the evening. I thought that was pretty cool. I didn't
• 44:24
  catch the Britney Spears second outfit for for Becky, believe it or not,
• 44:29
  I didn't catch that. I didn't realize that yeah. Yeah, and then
• 44:36
  uh because I was like, why does Becky look like she's like about to
• 44:39
  lead an orchestra? Like like I was just like really, like are you
• 44:45
  going through seth rollins clothing? Like what that's your outfit? Okay? But
• 44:51
  yeah, I was surprised she was able to make it work wrestling because sometimes
• 44:53
  I always think that like a lot of these women forget about that, Like,
• 44:58
  yeah, outfit's cool and ship, but you still got fucking wrestling in
• 45:00
  this outfit. It's weird because we were kind of we were talking about how
• 45:07
  there wasn't any judgment day on the card at all. So the fact that
• 45:10
  they this is a big deal because they flew Dom all the way out here
• 45:14
  for this. You know, I was so confused. I was so confused
• 45:21
  the way this is going, Like is this like like was Dom trying to
• 45:27
  help Becky? Because I think I was even more confused, Like following Monday,
• 45:34
  like you know, they had a cage match Live and Becky they had
• 45:38
  a cage match and Dom interfered again and Lived walked out and again confusing the
• 45:45
  way it went down because I'm watching it right now, Dom like slides the
• 45:50
  chair to Becky and you know, basically like, you know, it looks
• 45:53
  like he's trying to talk to Becky about something but then distracts the ref Yeah,
• 45:58
  and then Live comes in and ddts are on it, and and you
• 46:01
  know, throws the steel chair, piss poorly throws the steel chair out,
• 46:06
  doesn't even go all the way out. Dom has to grab his steel chair
• 46:09
  and then yeah, she does they live in and one two three. I
• 46:13
  like not clean. I kind of would have liked to have seen Live beat
• 46:17
  Becky clean. I mean, we've seen Naya Jacks beat Becky Clean on off
• 46:22
  raw recently. Uh. You know, to me, a clean win means
• 46:28
  so much like you know, we talk about, uh, we're gonna talk
• 46:30
  about later Gunther and Ran Jorton, you want to talk about a clean win.
• 46:34
  I enjoy clean wins because it means more to me as the champion,
• 46:38
  like especially when it's acquiring the title, when you're actually winning the title.
• 46:45
  Yeah, and then Dom looks that's a that's an excellent point that you're bringing
• 46:51
  up about clean wins because, especially in the case of Live Morgan, because
• 46:57
  they're doing the same thing to her now they to her last time when she
• 47:00
  won the SmackDown Women's Championship. Remember that she she cashed in on Ronda Rowsei
• 47:07
  at Money in the Bank. Plague won the title. Great moment, feel
• 47:10
  good, everybody's happy for live loving it. Then she gets her first title
• 47:15
  defense against Ronda Rousey. I think it was as Summer Slam, but or
• 47:20
  maybe I've been with the pay per view before Summer Slam. But either way,
• 47:22
  she gets that title defense against Ronda Rousey and then what happens. She
• 47:27
  wins, but it's in controversy because she had tapped out to Ronda Rousei arm
• 47:31
  bar so she didn't get a clean win. And throughout her whole title run,
• 47:37
  that was that that wund up tainting her whole title one because she struggled
• 47:40
  to be seen as a legitimate champion because she wasn't winning on her own she
• 47:45
  had she didn't have clean victories. She didn't have wins that established her as
• 47:51
  a legitimate champion, and that hurt her as a champion to be seen again
• 47:58
  with credibility and what they doing with her. Now, Oh, she beat
• 48:01
  Beculyunch, but it was it was with a steel chair and outside of the
• 48:05
  fairs. Okay, we're going run it back in a steel cage. Okay,
• 48:08
  here's dom again. Oh he crackspaculyunch with the steel cage, and Live
• 48:13
  Morgan takes the opportunity to slide out the cage. And you could say that
• 48:16
  it maybe works a little bit in her favor given that she's supposed to be
• 48:20
  a heel at this point in time, but it's still if they're not clean
• 48:24
  queen, they're not clean wins, so they're still not helping her be established
• 48:30
  as a legitimate champion. So I mean, yeah, they're they're kind of
• 48:37
  doing the same thing all over again to her. At some point, Live
• 48:40
  needs to beat somebody and beat them clean to show that she can actually win
• 48:46
  a match without somebody's help or without somebody without some sort of controversy, that
• 48:52
  she can just flat out beat somebody. Until then, yes, it's gonna
• 49:00
  have the same problem as before. So, I mean, so it's we're
• 49:05
  still early in her title run now, so it's still TBD how this is
• 49:07
  gonna go. But is she just gonna be essentially a placeholder until Riar Ripley
• 49:13
  comes back, or how's this gonna go? Yeah, that's to be determined.
• 49:19
  Yeah, Yeah, I'm excited to see where this is going. I'm
• 49:21
  a little confused, but uh, you know, especially given what we did
• 49:25
  not see on Raw to close out the show, depending on I don't know
• 49:32
  if you saw it or not. I did not see it. I had
• 49:35
  to see it online afterwards. But after she won the cage match on Raw
• 49:39
  with Becky Lynch, which just comparing the two matches real quick, I don't
• 49:45
  know. The cage match was good, Yeah, but it's it was clear
• 49:49
  that they suffered from a lack of time, like the match should have probably
• 49:54
  had been, you know, at least five to ten minutes longer, to
• 49:59
  give them real time to actually cook in a cage match made event. You
• 50:02
  could tell that you could tell they were really rushing towards the end. They
• 50:07
  kind of rushed towards that finish, as evidenced by the fact that it happened,
• 50:10
  and then we immediately went off the air and did not see what happened
• 50:15
  afterwards, Yea uploaded online which was live Morgan planting a big fat kiss on
• 50:22
  Dominic mysterio afterwards and up in the ramp area. Yeah. Now, dom
• 50:28
  didn't exactly embrace that kiss, and he didn't look like he was all that
• 50:31
  receptor to it. He just kind of had to oh shit, look to
• 50:35
  his face, and he definitely responded. I think on social media afterwards,
• 50:38
  we were just the comb of the frog meme that just said, oh fuck
• 50:42
  yeah, so you got deal with mommy now Andy, it's got probably deal
• 50:45
  his real wife. Well, I mean, the wife is part of best
• 50:50
  part of the biz. I mean, granted, I am surprised that they
• 50:52
  did pull a move like that on with him, given that he's married,
• 50:55
  but I'm assuming that. I'm assuming that, you know, clear, my
• 51:00
  wife is like, hey babe, I gotta do this thing on Monday.
• 51:02
  You know, I'm not embraced it because, oddly enough, the whole time
• 51:07
  that him and watch oddly enough, but the whole time with him and Rhea
• 51:10
  being a thing, they've never once kissed, not one respect to the fact
• 51:15
  that, you know, he was married and she had a you know,
• 51:20
  she was engaged, and you know what, nobody ever questioned it either,
• 51:23
  nobody ever questioned, nobody cared. They made it work. But this was
• 51:29
  this was definitely shocking though. It was definitely just like oh ship, and
• 51:32
  I think it was more shocking just the way Dom handles it, like like,
• 51:37
  you know, but no man would probably ever react if live did that?
• 51:43
  You know, so I am. I'm sure dumb. Good for you,
• 51:47
  domb Yeah, good for you. Man. Aspect of that, of
• 51:52
  this whole thing is you know where does that go? Yeah? Yeah,
• 51:58
  that's and to that effect, if that's gonna be the most interesting part of
• 52:04
  Liv Morgan's title run is her possible relationship not relationship with Domins Stereo Dominic Mysterio
• 52:13
  again, what does that say for her as a champion? Yeah, just
• 52:20
  more questions to be asked. But again, we'll see how they play this
• 52:23
  out. We'll see how this goes. I'm still a fan of Liv Morgan.
• 52:25
  I'm still rooting for her. I want to see her, you know,
• 52:30
  legitimized as a champion. I want to see her as a strong,
• 52:32
  credible champion despite her diminutive size. But it's got to happen in the ring.
• 52:38
  It can't just happen just by being featured on TV and being in a
• 52:45
  prominent position on the air. It's gotta happen in the ring. M Yeah,
• 52:53
  I agree, man, I'm ready for the next match. Hey,
• 52:58
  So, following the Women's World Championship match, we got he I believe the
• 53:02
  triple threat match for the Intercontinental Championship. So Sammy's Ain champion defending against Chad
• 53:10
  Gable and Bronson Red which in this match was you know, obviously samu's Ain
• 53:19
  came out to the heroes welcome of welcomes, given that you know, he
• 53:22
  is a Muslim in a Muslim country. He is essentially their hometown guy,
• 53:27
  even if he's not actually from Saudi Arabia. He every time he comes out
• 53:30
  here, he gets a massive pop that rivals the top stars in the company,
• 53:37
  and this was no difference. So he comes out, he brings all
• 53:39
  the energy to the crowd, They give him all the energy. He's clearly
• 53:44
  over as over it can be here in Saudi Arabia, so you know,
• 53:49
  basically home field advantage for him. So you know, the match itself was
• 53:55
  a good match. It really it was you know, Chad Gable doing inhuman
• 54:02
  feats of strength that we've always seen from him, like when he did them
• 54:09
  both Bronson Reid and Sammy's Ay, that was crazy. That was absolutely crazy
• 54:16
  spot probably the spot of the match itself. Then we saw another spot where
• 54:24
  was it was it Chad and it was Sammy's Ain had an ankle lock on
• 54:29
  Bronson Reid and then Chad Gable went up and through the ankle lock on sammys
• 54:35
  Ain. Yeah, so that was it was good in the mess that they
• 54:39
  found they had a bunch of creative spots involving three all three of them at
• 54:45
  the same time, you know, which was which was again showing that these
• 54:49
  guys were thinking about what they're doing in the mess. They were thinking of
• 54:51
  ways to be creative and not just be a typical run of the mill triple
• 54:55
  threat match where you see, you know, basically one person lays on the
• 54:59
  outside for a couple of minutes while two people go at it. Then that
• 55:01
  person gets back in and somebody else goes and lays on the outside while the
• 55:05
  other two go at it, which I mean, we did get that in
• 55:07
  the match too, but not as much as you would see in some other
• 55:12
  matches. So these guys really worked to let all three people have their moments
• 55:17
  in the match. But ultimately sammy'se Ain of course, retained the title after
• 55:29
  Chad Gable tried to get Otis to lay out Sammy's Ain, which failed because
• 55:35
  Samysein dropped out the way causing Chad causing Otis to lay out Chad instead,
• 55:38
  leaving samy'se Ain opened the hit of halluva kick on Bronson Red and then get
• 55:43
  the pinfall. So and I really thought this was going to play out different
• 55:50
  subst not the match itself, but the fallout from the match was going to
• 55:52
  play out different. But we'll talk about that after we get your thoughts on
• 55:57
  this match itself. Yeah, it is another I enjoyed a triple threat match.
• 56:01
  I always enjoy triple threat matches. If you have the right combination of
• 56:07
  guys, you can make it a really good match. Bronston reed being being
• 56:10
  the big meat in this match, you know, and and the big heel
• 56:16
  that nobody wants to see when the one got the one he'll nobody wants to
• 56:21
  see when on this then you got Sammy the big face, you know,
• 56:23
  the big baby face, super baby face, especially here, like the love
• 56:29
  for Sammy's a you know, has not gone away, like it's just been
• 56:34
  on the back burner for a little bit. Uh So, you know,
• 56:38
  ed Chad like he was getting over with the fans so well as a face,
• 56:44
  and then just as he was about to peak, he goes hell,
• 56:47
  And I've been loving heel, Chad. I I love what's happening with the
• 56:52
  demise of the Alpha Academy. It's not the whole Alpha Academy turning heel.
• 56:59
  He's trying, but they're like not turning heel. It's it's one of these
• 57:02
  situations where, uh, he's going to leave them and most likely find his
• 57:08
  own. You know, new kin new New New Boys, and I think
• 57:14
  they're gonna be the Creed Brothers. And I think, you know, Maxine
• 57:19
  Dupree is gonna get dropped too. Uh. And I god, damn if
• 57:22
  I would love Kurt Angle came back. It was a general manager, was
• 57:25
  a manager in that stable. But you know that's wishful thinking, right,
• 57:30
  can't can't have everything, can't have my cake and eat it too. But
• 57:35
  this match had a lot of great like just physical feasts like I just saw
• 57:42
  like Sammy's you know, I'm watching this now. I just saw Sammy's a
• 57:45
  and do a fucking power bomb to to Bronston read off the top rope.
• 57:52
  I thought that was coolest ship. Uh. You know, seeing a big
• 57:55
  guy like Bronston Reid do like a backflip off the top rope, That's that's
• 58:00
  not something you see every day. That's a big man. You know,
• 58:05
  you were talking about the double ankle lock. I enjoyed the uh the reverse
• 58:10
  on reverse triple German Suplex from Gable I thought was great. Just a lot
• 58:17
  of anytime you see Chad in the ring, especially as of late he's gonna
• 58:22
  be he just does something that just blows your mind, Like I'm just like,
• 58:25
  dude, that was so cool. Like I love his his German Suplex,
• 58:32
  his rolling German Suplex because he does it slow and I always think that's
• 58:37
  just a really cool way to do that move. Sometimes it's not always about
• 58:40
  speed. If it slow down a move just to show how badass it is
• 58:45
  and you can make it work. I mean Chad Gable did not just that,
• 58:51
  just the fact that you're slowing it down. It's actually more difficult to
• 58:54
  do that. That's your strength, Oh yeah, because it's not like the
• 59:00
  person jumping and they help you get the move over. You know, you
• 59:02
  just have to carry their momentum through the move. Now, when you're doing
• 59:07
  that, you're basically just grute forcing a person like that. That's what makes
• 59:10
  that is that rolling German. I think he was a caster or something like
• 59:15
  that, But that's what makes that move so impressive is the fact that really
• 59:19
  the all the momentum he has is through the role. After that, it's
• 59:22
  pretty much all strength. It's all him getting that person over like that.
• 59:29
  Yeah, and that's rout fucking strength. Sammy has uh Chad in ankle lock
• 59:36
  and and Bronson Reid is you know, bouncing off the ropes and he's coming
• 59:39
  at him and he gets him into a blue thunderbomb. I was like,
• 59:45
  holy shit, like sit down thunderbomb, Like, uh, that's impressive for
• 59:51
  a guy that size. And Sammy's not a big guy either. He's he's
• 59:54
  bigger than Chad is, but he's definitely the middleman in this. Uh.
• 1:00:00
  I'm glad, I'm I'm glad he retained. I don't they're blurring the lines
• 1:00:06
  of credibility with some of that stuff too. I know, Sammy saying is
• 1:00:10
  not a power guy. I know. It's like Bronz hit the thunderbomb on
• 1:00:15
  Bronson Reed, Like seeing him struggle to do it, Okay, that's believable.
• 1:00:19
  See he actually pulled off is like really, yeah, he shouldn't really
• 1:00:23
  be doing that. Yeah yeah, samsay, Yeah, Bronson Rene has both
• 1:00:30
  of them on his shoulders and he does the smoke drop. I'm like,
• 1:00:32
  yeah, I believe that, right, Yeah, that's very believable. Uh
• 1:00:38
  damn. I wanted to see Otis and Bronson man slapping man meat, you
• 1:00:45
  know, two big fucking dudes. He's like tanks of a guy's Yeah,
• 1:00:50
  otis not turning kind of, It's another confusing part. I don't think Otis
• 1:00:58
  is gonna turn I think I like Otis better as a face anyway. I
• 1:01:01
  think he's just gonna fall by the wayside along with the rest of Alpha Academy.
• 1:01:05
  Unfortunately agreed. I agree with you on that, and him not turning
• 1:01:12
  wasn't isn't my disappointment because I'm not I figured he wasn't gonna turn here,
• 1:01:17
  the fact that he actually wound up collaborate, collaborating Chad Gable to take him
• 1:01:22
  out of the match, it's pretty much exactly what I expected. And I
• 1:01:27
  do agree with you that should he without Alpha Academy, he probably will fall
• 1:01:32
  by the wayside, because yes, he's a big guy in the ring,
• 1:01:36
  and yeah he can go. But if we've seen anything in the last couple
• 1:01:42
  of months is among these big meaty men, there's a difference between the ones
• 1:01:46
  who can actually really go and perform and stand on their own in the ring
• 1:01:52
  versus the ones who maybe not so much like Bronson Reed can fucking go in
• 1:01:58
  the ring. We see him do shit all the time, tons of boos
• 1:02:01
  that defy his size, even Ivar. You know, ever since his tag
• 1:02:09
  partner Eric has gone down injured, we've seen Ivar absolutely shine as an individual
• 1:02:16
  in the ring, something that we probably would have never gotten had his partner
• 1:02:22
  not gotten injured. But he's shown that he's a big guy who can move
• 1:02:25
  in their ring like a Cruisewight. He can stand on his own as an
• 1:02:30
  individual. You know, he really didn't need the Viking Raiders at all.
• 1:02:35
  He had more than enough on his own. Yeah, I don't know if
• 1:02:38
  Otis has that on his own. If Otis can stand on his own as
• 1:02:45
  that help he almost it almost would seem like freaking Ivar should have been the
• 1:02:52
  solo person and Otis should have been the other Viking Raider with Eric, the
• 1:02:58
  third Viking that we have. I've spoken about it almost like that would have
• 1:03:01
  should should have been the pairing that happened because but yeah, I mean CVD.
• 1:03:07
  But my disappointment with the fallout from this match was on Monday, where
• 1:03:17
  where well, one, let me say, just the whole thing of of
• 1:03:23
  Chad Gable being like the abusive leader and all stuff. Excuse me, this,
• 1:03:30
  the whole thing from the jump has been real cringe to me, just
• 1:03:34
  real uncomfortable and awkward to watch. And I don't know if that's just a
• 1:03:38
  credit to how well they're performing in their roles, the fact that it's making
• 1:03:43
  me uncomfortable watching it, or the fact that it's just really bad storytelling.
• 1:03:47
  Like I get the story that they're telling, I just don't like watching it
• 1:03:52
  seeing him talk down to them like this, like, oh, this is
• 1:03:55
  cringe. This is making me uncomfortable. I don't like this. You know,
• 1:04:00
  I kind of imagine it being potentially triggering to some people who have been
• 1:04:02
  in maybe such abusive relationships before, you know, that could be I could
• 1:04:06
  see it being triggered to them. And the fact that they're continuing to drag
• 1:04:12
  it out. I don't like the fact that it's okay, if it's gonna
• 1:04:15
  be cringing and uncomfortable, I can put up with that, but get past
• 1:04:20
  it, move on from it pretty quickly. But we don't need to linger
• 1:04:26
  on this, Like this isn't the thing that needs to be a part of
• 1:04:29
  long form storytelling, like, let's move this along and get to the next
• 1:04:32
  chapter. Like we all know eventually, either they're gonna turn on Chad Gable
• 1:04:36
  or Chad Gable is gonna dump them for newer people. Whenever ride, y'all
• 1:04:44
  gonna go. Just go that route and let's get to the next chapter,
• 1:04:46
  because right now nothing's happening of especially, you're just rehashing the same cringe,
• 1:04:54
  the same awkward, the same uncomfortable shit every damn week. It's let's move
• 1:05:00
  on with this. That being said, apparently the word I've coming out lately
• 1:05:10
  is that Chad gables contract is set to expire, and he apparently has not
• 1:05:16
  signed a new deal yet, So that could be maybe the reason why this
• 1:05:21
  shit isn't going any fucking where, and why they're just spinning their tires on
• 1:05:27
  this and not developing anything and just kind of and it's somewhat in a place
• 1:05:33
  of limbo, like, hey, maybe if you sign this deal, we
• 1:05:38
  get this next chapter for you, but until we have you under contract,
• 1:05:42
  we're not moving forward with this storyline. So yeah, that's kind of the
• 1:05:48
  the unspoken part about this, the kind of the the big question mark in
• 1:05:54
  this whole situation. So, and I don't see why Chad Gable wouldn't sign
• 1:05:59
  with he wouldn't resign with WWE, because as great as he is, as
• 1:06:03
  good as the performer that he is, I don't know that his prospects outside
• 1:06:08
  the WWE are better than what he currently has going like. I don't see
• 1:06:14
  him going to aw and being better off there than where he is now,
• 1:06:17
  or on the NDCN or TNA or anywhere else. He may not be a
• 1:06:23
  champion right now, but he is in a featured storyline. He is in
• 1:06:26
  a featured role right now, with a storyline that potentially has quite the upside
• 1:06:30
  to it depending on how they go with it. You know, him potentially
• 1:06:35
  dropping Alpha Academy and picking up you know, the Creed Brothers and potentially maybe
• 1:06:44
  even Ivy Nile. That's TBD because right now she's clearly a solid babyface siding
• 1:06:49
  with Maxine Duprix somewhat seemingly so. But I'm all for you know, him
• 1:06:58
  picking them up and that being the new the new fashion that he decides to
• 1:07:01
  go with. I'm all for a team Gable. I don't need Kurt Angle
• 1:07:05
  coming back and being their manager. I think Chad Gable's good enough on his
• 1:07:08
  own, but Team Gable, I'm here for that. I'm absolutely here for
• 1:07:13
  that. Hey, real quick, let's talk about how uh the crowd was
• 1:07:17
  able to incorporate you suck in his fucking theme music somehow? Yeah, how
• 1:07:24
  fuck County, we found a way. Yep, it's right there, it's
• 1:07:30
  there. That's just fucking embrace it. Don't need to try to hide it.
• 1:07:35
  No need to try to run away from it, no need to try
• 1:07:38
  to let me be something different. If that's where Aaron meet the people,
• 1:07:43
  where they're at, if the people are already there as you basically being this
• 1:07:46
  generation's Curt Angle, just roll with it, yep, roll with it.
• 1:07:51
  You don't have to be a complete carbon copy of Kurt Angle. I'm not
• 1:07:54
  saying you gotta come out here and start chugging milk and shit or start saying
• 1:07:58
  you know it's true as damn dree, or take the angle stam as your
• 1:08:00
  finisher. You ain't gotta do all that, but you can take some elements
• 1:08:04
  that worked and roll with it. And one element that worked that Kurt Angle
• 1:08:10
  did for a little while was Team Angle. You can do that and make
• 1:08:15
  that shit work. You can do that with the Creed brothers and that can
• 1:08:18
  work, and that can be your ticket to the next level. Just roll
• 1:08:23
  with it. I agree, all right, speaking rolling with it, Let's
• 1:08:28
  roll into this next match. Yep, yep. Next match after this was
• 1:08:33
  the Queen of the Ring final match seeing Lyra Valkyria versus Naya Jacks. Anybody
• 1:08:45
  who thought that Lyra Valkyria was going to win this match was fooling themselves.
• 1:08:53
  Yes, Nia Jackson one, Nia Jackson's our new Queen of the Ring,
• 1:08:58
  as to the surprise of which should be nobody. But that was a finish
• 1:09:03
  The match yourself was good. I'm not saying it was a throwaway match of
• 1:09:06
  that the match was trashed by any means, because it wasn't. But it
• 1:09:10
  was a pretty dominant win by Nya Jacks. Ayra Valkyrie. She gave it
• 1:09:15
  her best, She tried everything she could, but she really just couldn't do
• 1:09:18
  anything against the overwhelming power of Naya Jax, who won the match with white
• 1:09:24
  quite possibly the most devastating annihilator I've seen her due to anybody at all.
• 1:09:29
  While geez dude, I thought I thought the X sign was gonna go off
• 1:09:33
  and She's gonna be put on the injury Drosster. I'm pretty sure that was
• 1:09:40
  a batch, but it was a damn good looking botch because Jesus Christ crust.
• 1:09:45
  If Nya truly has gotten better since she's gotten back, like with not
• 1:09:50
  hurting people and making herself look definitely a lot more dominant than I'm all for
• 1:09:55
  it. If she does this finisher correctly, she doesn't have to hurt anybody,
• 1:09:59
  you know, if she doesn't catch herself before she slams all that weight
• 1:10:02
  down. But uh, yeah, dude, Like I I this could have
• 1:10:06
  been a match. I could have seen this finish on the raw. I
• 1:10:10
  mean, it's kind of disappointed, like this was the build up. This
• 1:10:13
  is where we ended up getting at the end of the day for the Women's
• 1:10:16
  Queen the Ring. I didn't think, you know, at the beginning of
• 1:10:19
  this quarter Nya was gonna be the one. Uh I guess. I mean
• 1:10:27
  they've kept Nyah pretty strong and protected as of late, Like she's not the
• 1:10:30
  main events scene, but she's still not getting you know, crushed, she's
• 1:10:35
  not getting smashed, she's not gonna feed it all the time, she's not
• 1:10:39
  being made as a joke, you know. Uh, she's just has been
• 1:10:45
  put in front of her She's just running through him aggressively. You know,
• 1:10:49
  I enjoyed Valkyrie's entrance. She had this cool like it reminded me a little
• 1:10:55
  bit of Hunger Games. Her hair and the wings. I don't know if
• 1:10:58
  that's what she was going for, but it looked cool as fuck, these
• 1:11:01
  big black wings, some definitely cool cosplay looking outfit. And Nia was just
• 1:11:08
  in this black and purple outfit sent the issue for night. That's how she
• 1:11:13
  shows up all the time. Yeah, exactly. Saudi's like, ain't no
• 1:11:16
  big deal for her, right Yeah, But don't get me wrong, I'm
• 1:11:21
  actually I'm happy for Naya Jack's winning the Queen of the Ring. We've said
• 1:11:26
  she's definitely improved her game since making her come back last year. Like,
• 1:11:32
  She's definitely she's a much better performer. She's safer any Like, none of
• 1:11:39
  the issues that people had brought up about her in the past, none of
• 1:11:44
  those have shown up this time. I think this Annihilator was probably the first
• 1:11:47
  real noticeable botch that we've seen from her. It was just a product of
• 1:11:51
  her just not getting a full, a good grip on the ropes that she
• 1:11:56
  was coming off. Could have just been you know, heat sweat, out
• 1:11:59
  there. You know, they're fucking desert wrestling. You know, the ropes
• 1:12:01
  might have been slippery, and yeah, fortunately Lyra didn't appear to be injured.
• 1:12:06
  And it also kind of worked out in her favor because it made the
• 1:12:10
  move look absolutely devastating. Yeah, this is a it was a batch that
• 1:12:15
  worked in her favor, But make no question about it. It was an
• 1:12:18
  absolute It was a batch. But I don't think it was a batch of
• 1:12:23
  of her intention. It wasn't intentional on her end. It was just,
• 1:12:28
  you know, a mistake, and that happens in wrestling. Men do it
• 1:12:30
  all the time and people don't say shit about it. So you know,
• 1:12:33
  I'm not gonna jump on Nia Jacks about it for this time. Like I
• 1:12:38
  said, in this instance, it worked in her favor, and I'm glad
• 1:12:41
  that she is our new queen of the ring. It's a reward for her
• 1:12:45
  for all the work that she has put in in her time away and since
• 1:12:49
  coming back, and she has been basically the most dominant women that woman on
• 1:12:57
  the roster that's not champion, right, And you can see that, and
• 1:13:00
  you can see she genuinely appreciated it like she almost had almost had like a
• 1:13:04
  babyface moment when she won and Triple Ah came out there and you know,
• 1:13:09
  gave her hugg and you saw she was genuinely emotional about it, and I
• 1:13:13
  was, you know, happy for him, Like I'm happy that for her.
• 1:13:16
  I'm glad you got this. You deserve this. Like if she wasn't
• 1:13:19
  a hill, if she would have been in the States, I could almost
• 1:13:23
  see the crowd giving her a you deserve it chant for that. Yeah,
• 1:13:27
  Like she almost like, I think that's a moment that almost warranted it if
• 1:13:30
  it wasn't for the fact that she's incredibly a heel. And then as a
• 1:13:34
  testament to how good she's improved herself. She immediately soon as the mike was
• 1:13:40
  back in the head and she snapped right back into hell mode and completely shook
• 1:13:44
  her well, shook off all the emotions, got right back in the character,
• 1:13:45
  was like, yeah, I'm your queen, shut up, Kayla.
• 1:13:48
  I deserve it, and then immediately pointed at no, but she did that
• 1:13:55
  SmackDown. Yeah, immediately, uh was right back in the hell mode when
• 1:13:59
  she got the man a hand again. Testimates of her improvement, her getting
• 1:14:03
  as her massive improvement over her previous line. I'm happy for yeah, dude.
• 1:14:12
  Uh, especially with triple as there giving her the crown, and the
• 1:14:16
  crowns look so much better this year than they ever have. Uh yeah,
• 1:14:23
  I agree, dude. It's hard work paid off. I watched that that
• 1:14:28
  squash. I watched it like the resigns, was like, good God,
• 1:14:32
  how does she live? Like, you're right, dude. They played in
• 1:14:34
  her favor, totally played in her favorite because when I saw that out loud,
• 1:14:40
  I even said, I was like, oh my god. But uh,
• 1:14:45
  that's cool. I mean, and you know, I was really happy
• 1:14:48
  to see tripleation there and she took the knee and got crowned, and you
• 1:14:54
  know, she can use this for the next year to elevate her her heel
• 1:14:59
  statu I mean, however she wants to do it. She wants to totally
• 1:15:02
  embrace being the queen. Or you know, there's some people who don't,
• 1:15:06
  who win, win and never wear the crown, like Stone Cold never wore
• 1:15:12
  the crown, I think when he won King the Ring. Some people just
• 1:15:15
  don't they don't have to. But though she gets to embrace it for the
• 1:15:19
  next year, I think that's the one that's the one downside to the stipulation
• 1:15:25
  that they put on the King and Queen of the Ring, right fact that
• 1:15:29
  the fact that they have a title shot, because she's gonna have a title
• 1:15:31
  shot of Summer Slam. If she loses that title shot, ye, then
• 1:15:35
  being Queen of the Ring don't mean shit no more. Yep, you're right,
• 1:15:39
  I see I forgot because we normally don't have that stipulation. M hmm.
• 1:15:44
  Yeah, Like they're not out here calling, you know, Cody Rose,
• 1:15:47
  the Royal Rumble winner, no more. Like he's champion now and had
• 1:15:51
  he had, had he lost the Roman, we wouldn't be out here tomorrow,
• 1:15:54
  twenty twenty four, Royal Rumble Winner, Cody Rose. He be like,
• 1:15:57
  nah, she gets to talk ship up till Summer Slam. That's it.
• 1:16:02
  The crown is irrelevant. That is funny. Yeah, I totally forgot
• 1:16:08
  about that. Yeah, like it's not yeah, it's up till Summer Slam
• 1:16:12
  and then that's not going to mean much, but it's cool. Like now
• 1:16:15
  you got you know, some wrestlers like to take these things and put them
• 1:16:18
  on their wall and stuff. Now you got a crown. Yeah, she's
• 1:16:23
  definitely got something for it to add to a trophy collection. Absolutely, absolutely,
• 1:16:27
  dude. Yeah, that's all I got for that match pretty much.
• 1:16:32
  So following this one, we got the King of the Ring final with going
• 1:16:38
  to facing Randy Orton. This was probably, I want to say, it
• 1:16:45
  would be my match of the night had it not been for the damn finish.
• 1:16:50
  Everything up till that match of the night. These two were absolutely one.
• 1:16:58
  We've never seen these two wrestle each other before, so you know,
• 1:17:01
  seeing two people of this caliber Russell for the first time is always a good
• 1:17:04
  is always a big deal and always good to see, so, you know,
• 1:17:10
  and they absolutely brought it to each other, like they were going back
• 1:17:14
  and forth and hitting each other with everything, which is kind of the thing,
• 1:17:19
  you know, for somebody like Gunter, as big of a deal as
• 1:17:23
  he is on the roster and as dominant as he's been on the roster,
• 1:17:27
  we tend to forget that there are still people that he has yet to face,
• 1:17:31
  and that's a pretty awesome thing that somebody of this magnitude still has first
• 1:17:39
  times to be to still take place in his career, things that can still
• 1:17:45
  be major matches without involving a title, just because it's him versus somebody for
• 1:17:51
  the first time and seeing, you know, how's this person gonna deal with
• 1:17:56
  Gunter for the first time, not how Gunster's gonna deal with the person,
• 1:18:00
  because you know, the question of this match wasn't How's Gunster gonna deal with
• 1:18:04
  the viper Randy Orton? It's like, no, how's Randy Orton gonna fucking
• 1:18:08
  deal with Gunter? Yea react the first time Gunter put them paws on his
• 1:18:14
  chest? You know, how's Randy Orton gonna react the first time Gunster hit
• 1:18:18
  him with a combol, you know, saying, chest slap, power bomb,
• 1:18:23
  ship like that, How's he gonna How's he gonna do against somebody that
• 1:18:26
  he hits with everything he got and the motherfucker just keeps coming back because that's
• 1:18:30
  what Gunster does. Gunter be taking everything from people, and then we'll come
• 1:18:34
  back right at you and slap the living fuck out your chest, power bomb
• 1:18:39
  you and pen you like, how's Randy gonna deal with him? That's the
• 1:18:44
  question in this match. And Randy did as good as he could. Yeah,
• 1:18:50
  he did. Actually he did great. I Mean you could argue that
• 1:18:54
  this match could have gone either way, and you know, were it not
• 1:18:57
  for Randy Orton being injured or you know, having that that spolely, you
• 1:19:02
  know, knee or leg or whatever, you know, quote unquote injuries dealing
• 1:19:08
  with. You know, he might' you know, done better against Gunter or
• 1:19:11
  probably even won, but ultimately Gunter scored the win with a clever roll up.
• 1:19:18
  All though Randy Orton's shoulder was very clearly off the mat, So I
• 1:19:25
  don't know if that was intentional to set up a rematch, or an intentional
• 1:19:29
  so that Randy didn't look weak, or just a flat out botch. I
• 1:19:33
  don't know, but it kind of took away from the finish, especially in
• 1:19:39
  the fact that it was so playtant, so obvious, and everybody saw it
• 1:19:43
  so much so that Triple Ah had to address it in the press conference after
• 1:19:47
  the pl like It's like everybody was just like, so Triple Ah just gonna
• 1:19:53
  talk about that shoulder being off the matt. Huh, what you gotta say?
• 1:19:56
  May He's like, yeah, we saw it, but the referees decision
• 1:20:00
  in his final, Yeah, that's what I was like, you look dead
• 1:20:02
  at this man's shoulder being off the fucking match and still counted the three that
• 1:20:08
  decisions final, which is clearly knock and they said they're gonna they I think
• 1:20:11
  these pret much said that there's gonna be a they're gonna run it back at
• 1:20:15
  some point. Yeah, well they kind of. Yeah they better Yeah,
• 1:20:20
  dude, they fucking better run it back. I mean, I mean the
• 1:20:26
  same thing with like aj Styles and Cody rs. Like I hope eventually they've
• 1:20:29
  run that back to like these these matches where we're getting these guys who haven't
• 1:20:32
  touched hands before, you know, and and and we're getting these guys are
• 1:20:36
  in their forties. It's like, come on, like, really, these
• 1:20:41
  guys haven't crossed pass before. Okay, let's get it done. And I
• 1:20:44
  don't want to one off. I would like a little bit more so if
• 1:20:47
  there's more meat to this chew on, then let's let's do it. Sorry
• 1:20:55
  to cut you off. I didn't know if you have anything else to say
• 1:20:56
  about this match. Yeah, yeah, you know what though, like I
• 1:21:01
  I love the fact that we can still get first time matches like this with
• 1:21:08
  two guys who've been on the Orton since two thousand and two. But Guther
• 1:21:12
  has been on the roster for so long, and it's like, damn,
• 1:21:15
  how are you like able to avoid Orton for so long? And it's because
• 1:21:18
  like Orton just wasn't gunning for the inter Continental title, and that this is
• 1:21:24
  simply what it was like. Keeping him even Gunda grounded to the inter Continental
• 1:21:30
  title kept him kind of his wheelhouse, kind of limited, like people who
• 1:21:33
  would come to him, people opponents had to come to him. He didn't
• 1:21:38
  have to go to the opponent because he was the champ. So that's definitely
• 1:21:43
  limited to the people he could wrestle on the roster. But like now he's
• 1:21:48
  he's now he's wrestling guys like Brandy Orton, And now this guy's got a
• 1:21:53
  title shot, you know, right where we want him, right where we've
• 1:21:57
  always wanted. We wanted him heading towards that that title, you know,
• 1:22:01
  the heavyweight title. He one of the greatest Intercontinental champions of one of you
• 1:22:09
  can say now of all time because he's one of the longest reigning and and
• 1:22:14
  uh, you know, now he's King General, king of the ring.
• 1:22:20
  You know, he's the King General. I I yeah, that don't sound
• 1:22:26
  right to be I don't know. I know they try to say that on
• 1:22:28
  the pavement and like he's going for a ring general to King General. That's
• 1:22:31
  not how it works. You don't have two titles like that. Yeah,
• 1:22:35
  you don't call somebody the admiral captain. Yeah, Michael Cole said it after
• 1:22:41
  the pen but yeah, it can't stick because, like you said, the
• 1:22:44
  King, the King, think no, he can't. He can't be the
• 1:22:49
  king and also sell car insurance. Like now, maybe they want to call
• 1:22:55
  him the Ring King, but I can understand if they don't want to do
• 1:22:58
  that because ring King you to be the name of an old boxing video game
• 1:23:01
  back in the day. I think it was maybe uh uh Namco Band,
• 1:23:05
  I don't I don't know who it was, but it was an old Nintendo
• 1:23:08
  boxing game way back in the day. Look it up. I used to
• 1:23:11
  play it on Nintendo. So if they don't want to call it Ring King
• 1:23:14
  because maybe some nerd in the freaking production teams, like actually somebody owns the
• 1:23:18
  copyrights to those names. But still ring King is what they should actually be
• 1:23:24
  calling him instead of the Ring General. That would be the logical progression.
• 1:23:28
  The Ring General. Yeah, dude, the slaps, the slaps or I
• 1:23:34
  don't know if you've taken slaps like that, it's been a while, but
• 1:23:39
  damn dude, he was beat the ship chest end back. Oran's body showed
• 1:23:45
  it, and that's the thing with Gunther matches. If you're going up against
• 1:23:47
  Gunther, expect there to be some fucking bruises. Expect there to be handprints
• 1:23:51
  all over you by the time that matches through, because that's how that's how
• 1:23:56
  Cluro goes man like, that's Gunther leaves damn image, he leaves damage.
• 1:24:01
  And that that's another one of the reasons why people love watching Gunther fucking wrestle.
• 1:24:05
  It's just because like, damn, like you know, or it's not
• 1:24:10
  a small guy. I thinking Gunther about the same size and you know,
• 1:24:15
  Guzer laying those fucking hands on him, and Jesus Christ. Uh dude,
• 1:24:21
  I was so dig in this match. I was so digging it. And
• 1:24:28
  then like I flipped the page. Here, I have a I have that.
• 1:24:31
  Uh. You know he was working on the knee. Guda was working
• 1:24:35
  on that knee that whole match, an injured knee that that Randy had taped
• 1:24:39
  up. You know, Uh, he's able to you know, get out
• 1:24:44
  of an r KO, kick out an r KO and you know, a
• 1:24:53
  roll up. And the way the roll up went was that is was it
• 1:24:59
  meant to be? Is it meant to look like that? On purpose?
• 1:25:01
  I would think so concerning how veteran these guys are. Like, I don't
• 1:25:06
  think this was a mistake. I think this was on purpose, but like
• 1:25:09
  why, like is it to further the story, because it's not a legit,
• 1:25:13
  clean wind like Orton, like, you know, you never really pinned
• 1:25:16
  me, so we don't really know who's the better wrestler here. I'm like,
• 1:25:20
  yeah, you're the King of the Ring winner, but you know,
• 1:25:26
  I don't know. I could see this being revisited at some point. These
• 1:25:30
  guys are both on different rosters, so we got to remember that because the
• 1:25:33
  King of the Ring had guys from SmackDown compete and we got one for me.
• 1:25:39
  So this is a good way to I think, kind of protect Orton
• 1:25:44
  in a way, like you know, little shenanigans here at the end.
• 1:25:47
  So down the road when maybe Gunther's like, I don't know, world champion,
• 1:25:54
  Orton's maybe looking for that fifteen time world champion or sixteen time you know,
• 1:26:00
  maybe we run it back again. It's a little different this time,
• 1:26:03
  and I'm all for it. Yeah, oh yeah, there there there's room.
• 1:26:09
  There's definitely space to revisit this at a later date. I mean outside
• 1:26:13
  of them apparently running it back which I could see that being a thing maybe
• 1:26:17
  at uh Clash at the Castle. Yeah, maybe maybe I can see that
• 1:26:24
  possibly being a thing that if depending on how much of a deal they make
• 1:26:29
  of this or how much of a big deal Randy Orton makes of it,
• 1:26:32
  yeah, because I could see them maybe running it back at Clash. But
• 1:26:40
  for the time being, you know, he's the next man up, and
• 1:26:45
  he's poised to face either Drew or Damian Priest at Summer Slam. Man,
• 1:26:49
  I'm just gonna go ahead and say it now. My money's on whoever,
• 1:26:54
  whichever one he is facing at the end of Summer Slam, guns is gonna
• 1:26:58
  be our new world champion. I'm just gonna go ahead and say it now.
• 1:27:01
  I know I put money on that. That sounds like a good fucking
• 1:27:04
  deal, man, Yeah, because honestly, I don't see if he ends
• 1:27:11
  up facing Damian Priest. I don't see Damian Priest defeating Gunter at all.
• 1:27:15
  Yeah. And if it's Drew, We've already seen Guntzer defeat Drew, and
• 1:27:23
  I definitely don't see Drew defeating Gunter, even if it's a which would be
• 1:27:30
  kind of weird because as it stands right now, from what we saw in
• 1:27:34
  Raw. It's kind of a three way between those three right now contending for
• 1:27:40
  the title, with Guntzer already having a title shot guaranteed to him at Summer
• 1:27:44
  Slam. He's a heel. Damian Priest still leader of Judgment Day at this
• 1:27:48
  point in time, I'm still a heel, and Drew McIntire maybe the closest
• 1:27:56
  one to being a bit of a tweeter because you know his so social media
• 1:28:00
  shenanigans are kind of getting him over a little bit with the fans, but
• 1:28:02
  he's still very much acting like a troll in the heel on television, and
• 1:28:09
  they're still hitting him with to see him punk chance every chance they get,
• 1:28:12
  and any time he takes a shot and see him punky, he instantly gets
• 1:28:15
  booed. So he's also a heel. So we're in a real unique position
• 1:28:20
  right now on Raw where we've got three heels all vying for the world title.
• 1:28:28
  Right now, there's no babyface in sight other than maybe Jay Usso,
• 1:28:33
  who's pretty much been beaten by all three of these guys. He's kind of
• 1:28:40
  the odd he's the top baby face on Raw right now, but he's also
• 1:28:43
  very much on the outside looking in in this title picture. Yeah, so
• 1:28:47
  it's kind of a it's a unique, it's a it's a different situation that
• 1:28:51
  we're in right now, one of the only things that we've ever really been
• 1:28:54
  in before. But I'm I'm enjoying it though. I'm in here out all
• 1:29:00
  for it, bro all for it. So yeah, I mean, like
• 1:29:05
  I said, great match all the way up till we get the fucking Shenanigans
• 1:29:10
  at the end. Uh And and by the way, thus far after this
• 1:29:15
  match, tables still standing, could have been broken, were tempted to be
• 1:29:24
  broken, but still standing. And we'll return back to that later. Yep.
• 1:29:30
  So before we hit the main event, yeah, Triple H had a
• 1:29:36
  moment with Caleb Braxton because he had an announcement to make. That announcement announcement
• 1:29:44
  was that Drew McIntire has been cleared medically clear to return to the ring and
• 1:29:49
  as such is going to be facing the World Heavyweight Champion Damian Priest at Clash
• 1:29:59
  of the Capsule. So we already know one match for our next pol in
• 1:30:06
  three months and three weeks, Clash of the Castle. I will say this,
• 1:30:16
  this is the first world title match we've had in a long time.
• 1:30:25
  Where it is truly and genuinely unknown who's gonna win. Think about it,
• 1:30:36
  You could make an argument for either one of these two winning the match.
• 1:30:42
  There really is no predictability. There's nothing to be predicted here. For the
• 1:30:48
  longest time, when Roman was champion, we knew he was gonna win every
• 1:30:54
  match. There wasn't nothing to be said. When the World Heavyweight title came
• 1:30:58
  into the picture and they put it on Seth Rollins, we knew pretty much
• 1:31:00
  that Seth was going to win pretty much all of them. They really weren't
• 1:31:04
  putting anybody in front of him anyway that was a legitimate challenger. I mean,
• 1:31:08
  like, nobody thought fucking shin Skate knocking Moor was gonna feed Seth Rollins
• 1:31:12
  for the title. The only question were really haven't was like, is Damionkin
• 1:31:16
  to cash in now? Finally so like and the only times that were it
• 1:31:21
  was ever really in doubt. While Roma was champion, you know, people
• 1:31:26
  tried to argue, well, maybe Drew might beat him a clash last year,
• 1:31:30
  Know the fuck he wasn't. Even though people tried to think that he
• 1:31:32
  would try to make an argument Drew might do it. No, it's in
• 1:31:36
  his hometown and it No, it ain't happening. No, sorry, it
• 1:31:41
  wasn't happening. You know, we had the argument for Cody last year.
• 1:31:45
  That's probably the last time where a title match genuinely had an unpredictable outcome.
• 1:31:50
  I mean that outcome, but really had a genuine air of unpredictability going into
• 1:31:56
  it, where it really could have gone either way. You could have made
• 1:32:00
  a strong argument for Cody or Roman either way in that match last year.
• 1:32:06
  Obviously, Roman won, and we have found out since then that, you
• 1:32:12
  know, the working plan going into WrestleMania last year was actually for Cody to
• 1:32:16
  win, but Roman managed to convince them I guess, presumably at the last
• 1:32:24
  minute, that he should remain champion and that they should you know, stretch
• 1:32:30
  this out another year, you know, hindsight being twenty twenty. They were
• 1:32:35
  right. Roman was right, and it worked out. But and so this
• 1:32:41
  year, you know, it seemed pretty obvious to us that Cody was going
• 1:32:45
  to win. It's almost the inverse of last year, where it was pretty
• 1:32:48
  obvious Cody was going to win it this year, had to win it this
• 1:32:50
  year, and people were trying to make the argument that no, no,
• 1:32:54
  Roman, like we were saying like, no fuck out of here in a
• 1:32:56
  way, hell Roman does this shit two years in a row. Yeah,
• 1:32:58
  and we pre all pretty much knew that Drew was gonna defeat Seth at this
• 1:33:03
  year's WrestleMania. You know that. I don't think there was maybe some minor
• 1:33:09
  arguments that Seth could retain, but it seemed pretty obvious that Drew was gonna
• 1:33:12
  win. Now, we didn't see Damian Priese cash again, that's the way
• 1:33:15
  the surprise came in. But this match here, Drew McIntire versus Damien Priest
• 1:33:20
  for the world title, who's gonna win? Neither one of them seems like
• 1:33:28
  the obvious choice. I know, I know, right, and I think
• 1:33:32
  that's refreshing. I actually like that. I like the fact that we have
• 1:33:36
  a world title match that we can all go into with no idea whatsoever who's
• 1:33:43
  going to win. It's gonna make those two those you know, near falls,
• 1:33:48
  much more interesting. It's gonna make that final act of this match much
• 1:33:53
  more interesting because we're all genuinely, we all should genuinely be on the edge
• 1:33:58
  of our seats of seeing who's going to actually win. I like this.
• 1:34:04
  I really liked that. Hopefully they build this up properly because the match itself
• 1:34:09
  has a unique thing that we have not had in a long time, and
• 1:34:14
  that's genuine, genuine curiosity as to who's gonna win? What do you thought?
• 1:34:20
  No, I totally agree, I don't as much as I like,
• 1:34:29
  and I'm happy for Damian Priest as as our world champion, I just don't
• 1:34:33
  think his run is going to be very long. I think that we're gonna
• 1:34:39
  see it on Drew McIntyre real soon. And it's really it's actually kind of
• 1:34:45
  hard to say because it's like then Uther's like right around the corner. Right
• 1:34:47
  as much as I want to see the title back on Drew, Guther's right
• 1:34:53
  around the corner, nipping at his heels, but like, I don't.
• 1:34:57
  I feel like Drew's title run has been made kind of like you know,
• 1:35:00
  the past, you know, like a joke. Basically, it's like are
• 1:35:03
  we how much longer are we gonna start taking? Are we taking Drew?
• 1:35:08
  As a joke? Like when are we gonna held Drew? This is the
• 1:35:11
  best he's been ever. Dude has a heel like when are we gonna get
• 1:35:15
  him as a proper champion and a proper run, like as a heel champion
• 1:35:21
  and I don't. I don't want it to be shortened by Goother, But
• 1:35:25
  at the same time, like I want Goother to be champion, So it's
• 1:35:29
  kind of a sucks. It's like Cat's twenty twenty. Sometimes you know,
• 1:35:34
  you want somebody to be a champion so bad, but then there's another guy
• 1:35:38
  you want to be championed, but this guy deserves it more at this moment.
• 1:35:41
  But you know, uh, and then and then we get you know,
• 1:35:49
  you know, rolling into this this title match with Cody and and Logan
• 1:35:56
  Paul, I didn't I didn't enjoy the life changes to this match, not
• 1:36:01
  at all, dude. Like I think we talked about this last episode when
• 1:36:05
  we found out the last minute changes tonights, we kind of are like,
• 1:36:10
  we kind of know who's gonna be the champion here before we dive into that.
• 1:36:16
  For wrapping up on the whole Drew Damien thing, you bringing that up
• 1:36:20
  though, the fact of you know, people wanting to see Drew Giddle legitimate
• 1:36:27
  how to run, I think that kind of adds. That's what helps.
• 1:36:30
  That's why this match is so unpredictable, because sure, if it wasn't for
• 1:36:34
  the fact that Gunter's you know, waiting in the background, that Gunter's right
• 1:36:40
  around the corner. You would probably say that that Drew McIntyre is the obviously
• 1:36:44
  gonna win because like people were saying last year, it's a title match,
• 1:36:48
  it's in it's in his hometown, it's it's in uh Glasgow, Scotland.
• 1:36:55
  You know, just like people tried to argue that he was going to defeat
• 1:36:59
  Roman Rains last year, you could make an even stronger argument from the defeat
• 1:37:02
  Damien Priest this year, except for the fact that Gunter's waiting right around the
• 1:37:09
  corner. Because you put the title on Drew just to have him drop it
• 1:37:15
  to Gunter a month and a half later, Yeah, that doesn't seem it
• 1:37:19
  would almost seems it seems like if if that's if the plan is for Gunter
• 1:37:24
  to probably become champion at Summer Slam, just keep it on Damian Priest.
• 1:37:28
  Let Damien Priest drop it to him, so that way you don't, you
• 1:37:30
  know, give Drew another short, shitty title reign. Right, I mean,
• 1:37:34
  like thinkright, like Gunter is the one guy who you know Drew could
• 1:37:40
  beat him. Drew tried several times to beat Gunter, So think of the
• 1:37:44
  fear that he'll have knowing if he wins that title. And then like as
• 1:37:49
  he's celebrating, Kuntu's music just hits and he's just standing at the top of
• 1:37:53
  that ring, just looking down with his hands behind, just waiting for him
• 1:37:57
  yet to deal with and I beat you, yeah, and he knows.
• 1:38:02
  He's like, I've beaten you before, I've beaten you several times. You've
• 1:38:06
  never been able to beat me so good. There's gonna be so confident going
• 1:38:12
  in, But you know, like that, That's what I'm saying, because
• 1:38:15
  like we don't know where this is gonna go. I mean, that's why
• 1:38:18
  I was kind of comparing it a little bit to the logan Paul Cody,
• 1:38:21
  because we kind of know where that one was going. And that's what it
• 1:38:26
  doesn't make It doesn't make it exciting for me when I know what's going to
• 1:38:29
  happen. When I know that Roman Reigns was gonna when I found out that
• 1:38:32
  we're gonna keep the title on him for one year, Okay, so that
• 1:38:36
  means every match he's in this, every title match, he's gonna walk out
• 1:38:41
  his champions. Still, I'm not interested no more. You spoiled it.
• 1:38:44
  You spoiled it, man. That's like, that's like if we were watching
• 1:38:47
  Infinity War and then you know, right at the end, they tell you,
• 1:38:53
  hey, endgame comes out next year, but everybody who got snapped is
• 1:38:56
  coming back. Everybody, everybody who got snapped his back, and it's like
• 1:39:02
  fucking spoilers, man, Like I know, and then now I gotta go
• 1:39:06
  the whole year and watch all this shit in between Marvel films and act like
• 1:39:11
  these people are dead, like they're gone forever, they're never coming back.
• 1:39:15
  But then guess what spoilers? But yeah, I think what you're right about
• 1:39:19
  that, And that's what it was for the longest time with Roman. That's
• 1:39:23
  why for a lot of them his run, the interest wasn't in the match
• 1:39:27
  itself. It was the blood line storyline. It's like, yep, okay,
• 1:39:30
  we know Roman's gonna win, but what's this next chapter in the blood
• 1:39:32
  line storyline? Like is Sammy gonna turn? Is Jimmy gonna turn, It's
• 1:39:36
  Jay gonna turn? Or is this gonna happen? What's gonna happen? Like
• 1:39:40
  That's where the interest was for us. For a good chunk of Roman's title
• 1:39:45
  run was the bloodline storyline, not the match itself, because yeah, we
• 1:39:48
  knew Roma was gonna fucking win. Yep, you're absolutely right about that.
• 1:39:53
  And now, should Drew McIntyre win at Clash at the Castle, I would
• 1:40:00
  say, right now, we are kind of going with the theory that Gunch's
• 1:40:08
  almost certainly gonna win at SummerSlam. But if it's against Drew, I'm not
• 1:40:14
  gonna say that it's one hundred percent that Dunter wins. I would say it's
• 1:40:18
  probably. I think it's still a very strong chance that he wins at SummerSlam,
• 1:40:25
  but I would say it's maybe. Like I would say, good,
• 1:40:29
  like Gunter versus Damian Priest, I would say it's like ninety ten in terms
• 1:40:33
  of his odds to win, like ninety nine percent he wins, ten percent
• 1:40:38
  he loses. If it's him versus Drew, I'd say that drops down to
• 1:40:43
  maybe seventy five, twenty five or seventy thirty. Yeah, maybe seventy percent
• 1:40:47
  chance he wins, thirty percent chance he loses. I think Drew has a
• 1:40:50
  better chance, even though I still would think that Gunter is probably going to
• 1:40:56
  win, just for the simple fact that, yeah, I don't think that
• 1:40:59
  they would want to have give drew another short run like that and maybe as
• 1:41:06
  much of a buzz saw that Gulzer has been essentially running through everything with little
• 1:41:12
  to no challenge, Maybe they want to go. Maybe they want to add
• 1:41:16
  a wrinkle to his character and the fact that he went. He won the
• 1:41:19
  Indo Continental Championship virtually and with little to no difficulty, dominated that as champion
• 1:41:27
  for six hundred and sixty six days, ran through the King of the Ring
• 1:41:30
  with you know, minimal difficulty, holds that, but then finding challenges for
• 1:41:35
  the world title and oh the first time we see him challenge for something and
• 1:41:40
  fail. Yeah, maybe that's something that they try. I doubt it,
• 1:41:44
  but it's a possibility. Yeah, I agree, man, uh My fucking
• 1:41:54
  time will tell. I'm excited the next couple of weeks to be honest to
• 1:41:59
  see this is going to go between now in summer. Sign It's gonna be
• 1:42:01
  very interesting. So I would keep your eyes on good things to come for
• 1:42:08
  this man. Yeah. That that that's the best part about this. I
• 1:42:12
  will say, like the world title, the World Heavyweight Championship right now is
• 1:42:15
  in the most interesting position that it's been in in a long time, well
• 1:42:19
  probably since it's since its inception. It's probably the most interesting that it's it's
• 1:42:25
  been. But now we can move on to the main event, the Saudi
• 1:42:30
  Money Match YEP for the undisputed WWE Championship, Cody Rhodes defending against Logan Paul.
• 1:42:42
  I kind of skimmed through the match before we hopped on to uh record,
• 1:42:48
  kind of got it gist of it. Basically the match. It didn't
• 1:42:54
  It didn't suck, but it wasn't special. Cody won obvious to anybody would
• 1:42:59
  have a brain, No body, no chance in hell Logan was gonna win.
• 1:43:01
  Logan typical fashion, doesn't look bad in the ring. He did,
• 1:43:08
  he does his high flying spots, he looks good, he looks clean,
• 1:43:12
  and Cody won. I mean, I don't, I don't really know what
• 1:43:16
  much there is to say about it. It was kind of a paint by
• 1:43:19
  numbers match. Honestly, they really didn't do anything like special or I don't
• 1:43:27
  I don't even know that this match really had like a big photo moment like
• 1:43:30
  what happened when Coke when Logan challenged Roman Reigns, where we had that or
• 1:43:35
  at least had that photo moment of Logan Paul like high up in the air,
• 1:43:40
  and shit with Roman down there getting ready up and cut his fucking lights
• 1:43:43
  out. Like at least that match as predictable it was. We got a
• 1:43:45
  cool photo out of it. I don't know if we even got that out
• 1:43:49
  of this match. I don't know if there was a moment in this match
• 1:43:51
  that that they're gonna like, you know, plaster on pictures all over the
• 1:43:55
  place to showcase like this was just like, like I said, it was
• 1:44:00
  the Saudi Money match. Sadi's were like, we want Logan Paul again.
• 1:44:03
  He had a great match last year. Okay, cool, y'all can have
• 1:44:06
  him. We want him in a title match, all right, sure,
• 1:44:09
  fuck it. He ain't winning, but okay, that's what y'all want,
• 1:44:12
  all right, that's pretty much it. I mean, I'm kind of surprised
• 1:44:16
  that it took three freaking crossroads for him to win it, Like, Logan
• 1:44:20
  Paul doesn't strike me as the person who needs three crossroads to be put down
• 1:44:25
  for a three count. No, that would fuck that would fucking AJ Styles
• 1:44:30
  just last month only needed one. Dude, You're right, you're right.
• 1:44:36
  Aj Styles just lost with one crossroads, but Logan Paul needed three. That
• 1:44:42
  math don't math anyway, what'd you think of this ship show? Oh?
• 1:44:48
  Man? You know what, though, if you skim the match, you
• 1:44:51
  really didn't miss too much. Man. It's it's like, like I said,
• 1:44:56
  we knew who was gonna win. The fact that they change the stipulations
• 1:45:01
  made it so less interesting for me. Now that both titles aren't online,
• 1:45:06
  I'm not interested as much, man, Like, it's just the logan pall
• 1:45:11
  match and I kind of know who's gonna come out as the winner on this
• 1:45:14
  already. You know what was different about this pay per view that people I
• 1:45:20
  don't know if you notice, but there's no prime logo in the middle.
• 1:45:25
  And we were told that we were getting prime logos in the middle. Well
• 1:45:30
  over in Saudi here, Yeah, not over there apparently where it's categorized in
• 1:45:40
  the caffeine drink section there. It's just they don't allow it, and they
• 1:45:44
  don't allow sponsorships and ship now I know, I know where are the sponsors,
• 1:45:49
  damn it. Yeah. And I know people were saying, oh,
• 1:45:53
  well, he still had an energy Prime drink in his hands. Yes,
• 1:45:57
  but if you look at what kind of age you drink, it was it
• 1:46:00
  was like a non caffeinated sugar free drink and it didn't fall under the category,
• 1:46:05
  and Saudi allowed it, and I was like, crazy world we live
• 1:46:10
  in. It's like you can have you can't have coke on the show,
• 1:46:14
  but you can have diet caffeine free coke or like or like you know what
• 1:46:19
  I mean, like whatever. It was really nice if this is one of
• 1:46:25
  the pluses I get. You know, I don't have to see the fucking
• 1:46:28
  Prime logo in the middle of the ring. So sure, that's twice a
• 1:46:31
  year. I'll get that twice a year. Yeah, I guess with as
• 1:46:36
  much money as they're being paid. Yeah, it's like, you know,
• 1:46:41
  we don't need sponsors, Like we pay you enough. You don't need sponsors.
• 1:46:45
  You don't need you don't need Snickers, you don't need America Shield,
• 1:46:49
  you don't need Uh, there's so many there's there's so many Subway slim Gym.
• 1:46:58
  There's just whatever. We go back to the day when we just had
• 1:47:01
  Stacker two in slim Gym. Oh, Now everything's a fucking gimmick match or
• 1:47:08
  everything has to have logos all over the side. I have to see this
• 1:47:14
  match was brought to you by slim Gym, and it's I'll plaster all over
• 1:47:16
  the fucking place. But this is how it's gonna be now now then forever,
• 1:47:21
  if not worse, until we have two mascots. Is wrestling in the
• 1:47:26
  fucking ring. That's what's gonna come down to, especially now that now that
• 1:47:31
  on the side of the ring and the around the ring and all that stuff
• 1:47:34
  is now video screens as opposed to drapes that it used to be back in
• 1:47:39
  the day. Ye they can slap a sponsorship anywhere they want, yup,
• 1:47:43
  anywhere an right there on the screen in the middle of the match, yep.
• 1:47:46
  Somebody's willing to pay the money for it. Ww'll let them do it,
• 1:47:49
  yep. And they're like, hey, I want you to put this
• 1:47:53
  on the Titan Tron during the match for thirty seconds and nobody else can watch
• 1:47:56
  it. They're like, okay, here's one hundred dollars, here's one hundred
• 1:48:00
  thousand. Do it, and they'll absolutely do it. Like, Hey,
• 1:48:03
  our movies coming out such and such, we want, uh, we want
• 1:48:06
  to pay for y'all to put it on the side on the screens during this
• 1:48:11
  match. Okay. Cool. You'll be watching the match and you'll be constantly
• 1:48:14
  reminded throughout that whole match, such as such as coming out in theaters yep,
• 1:48:18
  or this replay was brought to you by or you know that. And
• 1:48:25
  let's the other fucking annoying thing they do. Oh when they do they give
• 1:48:28
  us ads and during the match, and it's like, yeah, dude,
• 1:48:31
  like I know, I know it's being sponsored by you know whoever this is
• 1:48:39
  because it's plastered all over the fucking ring. You don't even show me a
• 1:48:43
  mountain dew COLDE Black I Pitch Black. We're watching the Pitch Black match right
• 1:48:46
  now, right this, Oh boy, that table that let's talk about that
• 1:48:53
  table. Those tables did not want to break. Saudi makes something different about
• 1:48:57
  their tables. Uh, there's the sturdiest I've ever seen them. But they
• 1:49:01
  finally finally broke when uh, Logan Paul put Cody through it. But here's
• 1:49:09
  what I don't understand. Okay, the ending, So Logan Paul puts Cody
• 1:49:15
  through the table that eventually broke on the outside of the ring, throws them,
• 1:49:19
  you know that man should have been out for a while for that spot,
• 1:49:23
  but then immediately picks him up, gets them back in for the ten
• 1:49:26
  count, so it's less than ten seconds, throws them in. There goes
• 1:49:30
  and does a five star frog splash, right, does a good five star
• 1:49:34
  frog splash too, very good. But Cody Rose doesn't fucking sell it.
• 1:49:43
  Doesn't sell it, man, he gets right the fuck out. I can
• 1:49:46
  see why Logan Paul wanted to use the brass knuckles on his ass, because
• 1:49:49
  then we had Shenanikins with another set of brass knuckles, which, by the
• 1:49:53
  way, that's another dumb thing. Ame. Roll up, Michael Cool,
• 1:49:56
  hold on my brass knuckles. Then you know, I definitely don't have them,
• 1:50:00
  Like really, dude, really, it's like, you know, take
• 1:50:06
  these cigarettes away, then I'll never smoke again. Yeah, you've had cigarettes
• 1:50:13
  on you the whole time. Yeah, come on, man, Yeah,
• 1:50:17
  three crossroads put Logan Paul away. Is it because he's champion? Yeah?
• 1:50:24
  Is it because he's the United States Champion? Yeah? I think the I
• 1:50:29
  think the st he's paid for it. But what we want to see a
• 1:50:32
  three crossroad finders, not just one ye crossroads. Yeah, they paid for
• 1:50:40
  they paid by the crossroad. They want to be like a bigger deal than
• 1:50:43
  what it was. Could have just been one crossroad and done, but nope,
• 1:50:47
  oh god yeah yeah yeah dude, Yeah, I mean it was a
• 1:50:53
  roller coaster of uh P l E. I was alright with it. It's
• 1:50:59
  just there was certain finishes between this one and the Man the guys King the
• 1:51:02
  Ring. I just you know, just the finishes I wasn't happy with.
• 1:51:09
  But eh, Saudi pl E. We'll forget about this. It's not canon.
• 1:51:16
  It's not canon. So uh yeah, Dre, what anything else you
• 1:51:20
  want to talk about with this PL far as this pl nah, I mean
• 1:51:26
  it's a Saudi pl E. We know these things are essentially throwaways. The
• 1:51:30
  only thing that made this of any significance is the fact that they announced that
• 1:51:33
  the King and Queen of the Rings are getting title matches that Summer Slam,
• 1:51:38
  so that'll probably be a thing going forward. My hope is that if this
• 1:51:45
  is the case going forward, I hope that the King and Queen of the
• 1:51:48
  Ring PL does not become a permanent Saudi pl E. I like the aspect
• 1:51:55
  of King and Queen of the Ring as a PL being something of significance,
• 1:52:00
  of potentially being you know, a royal Rumble esque type PL that has,
• 1:52:06
  you know, that level of significance to it. It'll probably never match the
• 1:52:10
  level of prestige of the World Rumble just because you know, the Royal Rumble
• 1:52:14
  is the Royal fucking Rumble. It's a staple of the WWE, even though
• 1:52:17
  King of the Ring itself is that as well. It's just it's had too
• 1:52:23
  many down years to be on the same level of the Rumble. So I
• 1:52:29
  appreciate them trying to build it back up. I hope it does become something
• 1:52:31
  of significance again in the future. I just hope it doesn't become a permanent
• 1:52:36
  Saudi pl E because that means that it will essentially become meaningless outside of the
• 1:52:45
  King and Queen of the Ring itself, because that's pretty much what all the
• 1:52:48
  Saudi pl E's are. They're essentially just throwaways. Yep. So I don't
• 1:52:54
  want. I don't want. I don't know how they find that balance of
• 1:52:58
  throwaway Saudi pl e but also have this one thing in it that actually matters.
• 1:53:04
  I don't know that you can. I don't know that you can balance
• 1:53:08
  that out, honestly. So that's that's That's the one thing I will say,
• 1:53:14
  just my final thoughts on this po going forward. I hope that hope
• 1:53:16
  that it continues. I hope that it is something of significance, and I
• 1:53:20
  hope that this is the last time that it happens in Saudi Arabia. Yeah,
• 1:53:25
  I mean, I'm kind of I don't know, I'm kind of hoping
• 1:53:30
  that we get to King Ring again and only in Saudi because I just here's
• 1:53:34
  the thing. He's like, we're so jam packed already. I don't know
• 1:53:40
  where else to pencil King the Ring in because it is just we have so
• 1:53:45
  much, dude, so much to the point where now we're getting Summer Slammed
• 1:53:48
  two nights in a row, which I'm not again, I'm not a fan
• 1:53:56
  of why not. You know, they just keep extending it. They just
• 1:54:01
  keep extending everything. What's next to two hour Roar Rumble, two hour Survivors
• 1:54:05
  Series and then you know three hours smack Down three hour NXT like how much
• 1:54:11
  wrestling can But they're not really extending everything. That is one more night for
• 1:54:18
  this show, I know. But that's why, I mean, like,
• 1:54:20
  where does it end? Because I did hear talks about them trying to make
• 1:54:26
  smack Down three hours, and I was like, I'm not for that.
• 1:54:30
  But you know, I guess out of the past week or so, out
• 1:54:34
  of the news. We did discuss it last episode, but the biggest one
• 1:54:38
  was. I was not on board about PL's going back to Sundays, all
• 1:54:42
  right, Yeah, yeah, that that. I think we're all in agreement
• 1:54:46
  of being against SmackDown going to three hours. I haven't heard anything about that.
• 1:54:53
  I'd be surprised if they did that, but I would if just to
• 1:54:58
  play Devil, if I would have played Devils at Advocate a little bit.
• 1:55:00
  If SmackDown were to go to three hours on you, presumably this would happen
• 1:55:05
  after the move to USA. USA has a network probably has more space to
• 1:55:13
  fit a three hour smack Down in. But this would also coincide with Raw
• 1:55:18
  going to Netflix. Raw itself would also change, and I doubt that Raw
• 1:55:26
  would remain a three hour show on Netflix because presumably there won't be commercials on
• 1:55:33
  Netflix. It'll be just it'll be a more streamlined, straightforward show. So
• 1:55:39
  it may be who knows how wrong how long Raw would be on Netflix.
• 1:55:45
  If it's the same amount of content, then we were looking at like an
• 1:55:48
  hour and a half long show. But I'm pretty sure that that's not gonna
• 1:55:53
  I'm pretty sure Netflix wants a longer show than just an hour and a half.
• 1:55:57
  Like they didn't. I don't think they paid what they paid for Raw
• 1:56:00
  just to get an hour and a half of content each week's whatever WW decides
• 1:56:04
  to do, it's gonna be a two hours. So our total, you
• 1:56:12
  know, amount of content still really isn't gonna change. It's just gonna shift
• 1:56:16
  more or less. And I mean we kind of are in a position right
• 1:56:26
  now where you could argue that SmackDown might be, you know, the bigger
• 1:56:30
  of the two, like right now for Raw is the flagship show. But
• 1:56:36
  next year, well you know after then this year, that will probably change,
• 1:56:43
  you know, right the face of the company on SmackDown, Cody Rhodes.
• 1:56:47
  Your top women in the company as of right now are on SmackDown.
• 1:56:54
  Bianca Belle there and Bailey Jade, car Gill is well, I mean Rhea
• 1:57:00
  is out injured, Becky Lynch is on hiatus, which I mean we could
• 1:57:08
  talk about that when we finish up our po e talk, which I mean,
• 1:57:12
  I mean, we're pretty much done with the pl so we might as
• 1:57:14
  want to move on into the other things. So yeah, oh man,
• 1:57:19
  I lost internet, poor dre if I just talking to himself for a while
• 1:57:26
  having one man podcast. Uh, sorry about that, yep, yep,
• 1:57:32
  So I don't know what the last thing y'all heard was because I was certainly
• 1:57:36
  rambling on. But we're just gonna pick up with the piece of news that
• 1:57:43
  has come out this week that, uh, basically, Becky Lynch is done
• 1:57:47
  with WWE for potentially an extended period of time. As we know she as
• 1:57:55
  we all know, she lost her match against Live Morgan has passed Monday on
• 1:57:59
  Raw and as the match endedge she just sat in the ring and kind of
• 1:58:03
  had a moment to herself, has cried a little bit, had a little
• 1:58:06
  bit of emotion, and then walked out to the cheers of the fans and
• 1:58:12
  that's it. We know her contract is set to expire. Her contract expires
• 1:58:17
  basically tomorrow or Thursday or this weekend. Her contract expires and she has not
• 1:58:25
  signed it a new one. She's made that clear she's not going to sign
• 1:58:30
  a new one anytime soon. So we're looking at probably not seeing the Becky
• 1:58:35
  Lynch for the rest of the year. At least, she's gonna take some
• 1:58:40
  time off go home be with the family. Perfectly fitting right now given that
• 1:58:46
  her husband, Seth Rollins is also out recovering from injuries, so it works
• 1:58:51
  out perfect for them. So just to say to Becky, you know,
• 1:58:59
  thank you for all that you've done entertaining us for all these years. You
• 1:59:03
  more than deserved this time away. You've more than earned this break, and
• 1:59:11
  we look forward to the day that you return and whatever capacity that will be,
• 1:59:16
  be it with WWE or you know, not completely ruling out with another
• 1:59:24
  company, because you can almost guarantee when she does decide that she wants to
• 1:59:28
  come back, there's going to be a bidding war. Don't think that she's
• 1:59:32
  just gonna come back and be like, Okay, triple h I'm ready to
• 1:59:35
  come back. Let's talk about a new deal. You can almost be certain
• 1:59:40
  that she will. When she decides to come back, she's gonna renswer as
• 1:59:44
  a free agent, and she's gonna hear all offers. She's gonna make WWE
• 1:59:49
  earn, earn her earn her presence with their company. They're gonna have to
• 1:59:57
  open up the piggy banks to get her back. Mm hmm. It is
• 2:00:00
  not is not a foregone conclusion that she returns to w W, because you
• 2:00:04
  know, Tony Kahan is not gonna just sit highly by and be like,
• 2:00:08
  oh, well, I know she's a w W person. Though he can
• 2:00:11
  be like al backs write you number on the check. Yeah, I don't.
• 2:00:18
  I don't see her jumping ship, I you know, going to aw
• 2:00:23
  or anything, because you know her and Seth I think are very loyal.
• 2:00:26
  I think their money is not for money either, because they're I think they're
• 2:00:29
  very well set off money wise. I mean, they're two of the biggest
• 2:00:32
  stars in the company. I would assume that financially they're very well set off.
• 2:00:38
  I just think it's time for both of them. They've been the workhorses
• 2:00:42
  of the company for a while. I think, especially Seth since the world
• 2:00:45
  title came back. I think it's just time to go home, spend some
• 2:00:49
  time with the kids, time to be family. The thing is is where
• 2:00:55
  Seth and Becky are ones that will miss even more the longer they're on.
• 2:01:00
  So they're not losing any credibility or anything when they leave. It's not like
• 2:01:05
  when they come back, you know, we're not gonna feel much. For
• 2:01:10
  example, I don't know Dre how excited you were when Seamus came back.
• 2:01:14
  I don't know if you were popping and marking out and did you run to
• 2:01:19
  your room to get your shamous shirt? Did you did? We would just
• 2:01:24
  stand up on the couch like Doyle and just yell fella. I would assume
• 2:01:30
  that's how Doyle celebrated. Nothing against Shamous at all. You know, I
• 2:01:34
  like him, I like the guy, But no, his return the kind
• 2:01:39
  that I'm I'm marked for, right, and they barely They kind of made
• 2:01:43
  it seem like a big deal, but they kind of didn't really make it
• 2:01:45
  seem like a big deal. But either way, No, he's not that
• 2:01:47
  I would mark out for. Told. Yeah, but in these two return
• 2:01:53
  presumably because we and let me make this clear, I don't think for a
• 2:01:58
  second that Becky Lynch is going to sign with another company. I would be
• 2:02:02
  absolutely shocked if a new story came out like Becky Lynch, or I say
• 2:02:10
  that will be Becky Lynch would be Rebecca Quinn signs with AEW like. I
• 2:02:15
  would be stunned if that happens. So, yeah, I agree with you.
• 2:02:18
  She's probably going to return at the same time, though, she would
• 2:02:23
  be foolish if she did not parlay Aw's desire to sign her into a larger
• 2:02:30
  contract from So that's what I mean when I say she's gonna hear all offers.
• 2:02:34
  She if she's smart, she's going to come back as a free agent
• 2:02:40
  and play that to her advantage in order to score the contract that she wants,
• 2:02:45
  or to score a contract from WWE that's on the Mercedes Monette level,
• 2:02:49
  if not bigger. She absolutely has that. She has that card to play.
• 2:02:55
  She has that power. And if ww wants to play stupid or you
• 2:03:00
  know, take her for granted and just assume. But her husband's here.
• 2:03:02
  You know, she's a lifer, she's loyal, She's not going anywhere.
• 2:03:05
  We're gonna low ball her because you know, we're WWE, We're family,
• 2:03:11
  and Tony's like, I give you twenty million dollars a year. Girl,
• 2:03:15
  shit, I think she wouldn't be like he we found but uh we ain't
• 2:03:20
  twenty million dollars fam Yeah right, you know what I'm saying. So that's
• 2:03:26
  all I mean in that regards. But you know, yeah, I absolutely
• 2:03:29
  expect her to return and when she does, Yeah, it's going to be
• 2:03:32
  a massive pop. It's going to be a huge thing. Well I mark
• 2:03:36
  out for it. Probably not, because in my mind, I kind of
• 2:03:41
  I kind of have an idea in my head of when I see her coming
• 2:03:45
  back, as I think most other people probably have an idea in the head
• 2:03:47
  where they think they'll probably see them coming back, probably both of them,
• 2:03:50
  honestly, I think I think with her being out for the rest of the
• 2:03:55
  year and seth Rollin's recovering from injury, I think not only he take the
• 2:04:01
  time out to recover from his injury. I wouldn't be surprised if he just
• 2:04:04
  took the rest of the year off as well, to just be at home
• 2:04:08
  with his wife and let him raise their kid. I don't think we're gonna
• 2:04:11
  see either one of them for the rest of the year. Honestly, I'd
• 2:04:14
  be completely content if if I and this is all within like, because I
• 2:04:19
  want you to heal, because I want you to spend time with your family,
• 2:04:24
  because I don't want you taking bumps, I would be completely fine.
• 2:04:29
  If I didn't see them until the Rumble, I'd be completely fine. That'd
• 2:04:34
  be a great way to come back. You're not doing a Shamus return like
• 2:04:40
  we sell recently. You're not doing nine months of returning from injury like Sony
• 2:04:45
  de Ville and just appear off the side of the TV screen. You're not
• 2:04:48
  making those You want to make a big pop, then come back at the
• 2:04:54
  Rumble, whether it's Number one or number thirty. I don't give a fuck.
• 2:04:58
  I think that burn it down at the rumble? Are you kidding me?
• 2:05:04
  After this guy's been missing for half of the year, all summer,
• 2:05:08
  he's been gone, all fall, he's been gone. Christmas is past.
• 2:05:13
  We don't get seth freaking rollins, but January comes the Royal rumble. Same
• 2:05:19
  me with Becky, Like, you know, just hearing the wood crowd would
• 2:05:28
  fucking pop and that's what we need. You know, less is more,
• 2:05:31
  And I think if there's anybody who's put in the time that deserves the time
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  off, is it that? So? Yeah? Is that? What else?
• 2:05:45
  Do you? You got anything else you want to bring to the table?
• 2:05:46
  If we wrap this pitch up, I think it does deserve talking about.
• 2:05:53
  You know, we don't. It's not too often that we bring up
• 2:05:55
  n XT on this show, but this past week's NXT is one that was
• 2:06:00
  worth talking about. Not because Sexy Red was there, because I mean again,
• 2:06:08
  I'm not gonna completely dunk on Sexy Red. I mean her music is
• 2:06:11
  not my cup of tea. I'm forty two years old, I'm grown.
• 2:06:13
  I ain't this new shit. It ain't me. It ain't my cup tea.
• 2:06:16
  A little bit I have her from Mercy, ain't that good of a
• 2:06:18
  rapper period, But she's for the young people, and you know from WWE,
• 2:06:26
  from their marketing and perspective, it works for them. She resonates with
• 2:06:30
  the young people. Young people like her, so yeah, it's for them,
• 2:06:34
  yeah, you know, and it's smart to bring someone of her caliber
• 2:06:38
  on NXT, which is the young I will say it's the young people's brand,
• 2:06:42
  but it's when they're it's where their younger stars are at. It's where
• 2:06:45
  their next generation is that. So you bring in, you know, a
• 2:06:49
  celebrity that connects with your next generation of fans to see your next generation of
• 2:06:55
  stars. So in that sense, in that regard, it makes sense for
• 2:06:59
  it to at for them, have done that, you know, connect that,
• 2:07:01
  make that connection with your younger audience. Let them see you younger next
• 2:07:05
  general again, like I said, your next generation of stars. Let them
• 2:07:09
  start to form that connection with them, start to follow with them, follow
• 2:07:13
  them, and then you know they can begin that journey with those stars from
• 2:07:16
  NXT eventually up to the main roster or so on and so forth. So
• 2:07:20
  in that regard, I get it. It makes sense. You know.
• 2:07:24
  It definitely had the Internet talking our videos were definitely viewed by plenty of people,
• 2:07:28
  so you know, it worked. It just ain't for me because I'm
• 2:07:30
  fucking old. But the thing that, but the things that happen on NXT
• 2:07:36
  that we're worth talking about, in my opinion, is one. At the
• 2:07:42
  next pl E NXT battleground happening in Vegas at the UFC Little Venue in Vegas,
• 2:07:49
  we're gonna have rock Sane Perez defending the NXT Women's Championship against Jordan Grace
• 2:08:00
  from TNA TNA Knockouts Champion coming into w W E D for lack of a
• 2:08:05
  better term, forbidden door being broke being opened up by w W in a
• 2:08:13
  way that we have not seen before. It's one thing that when they bring
• 2:08:18
  in you know, outside people in for the rumble, we know those people
• 2:08:22
  aren't gonna win it. You know, they come in for a moment,
• 2:08:24
  you know, have there a few moments in the ring, and then that's
• 2:08:26
  it. It's another thing to bring somebody in the challenge for one of your
• 2:08:31
  titles. Yep. Now, admittedly, what are the odds of Jordan Grace
• 2:08:35
  winning Probably slimmed to none. Yeah, but still this is the beginning of
• 2:08:43
  something we're probably good chance we may see more crossover happened, or more collaborations
• 2:08:48
  happened between WWE and TNA, and I think this will be far more potentially
• 2:08:56
  could potentially be far more beneficial than the type of collaboration that we've seen happen
• 2:09:03
  between AW and New Japan, which you know, those have been nice,
• 2:09:09
  those have been cool, But I don't know that. I don't know that
• 2:09:15
  either companies really benefiting that much from it. I mean, maybe new some
• 2:09:20
  New Japan stars are getting some exposure here in the States and being you know,
• 2:09:26
  seen by American eyes that they wouldn't normally see. But I don't I
• 2:09:31
  don't know this because I mean, I ad mintally don't follow that enough to
• 2:09:35
  say, but I don't know if that has brought more eyes to New Japan's
• 2:09:39
  product. Maybe it has, maybe it has. Again, I don't know,
• 2:09:43
  but and admittedly I don't know if this thing, with this new found
• 2:09:48
  collaboration between w W and TNA is it could potentially draw more eyes to TNA
• 2:09:52
  product. Who knows. But at the very least, I think it will
• 2:09:58
  potentially make some certain certain stars in TNA. It'll help raise their profile if
• 2:10:05
  nothing else, Even if it may not necessarily raise the profile of the entire
• 2:10:09
  product, but that's still TBD. But nevertheless, I'm here for this and
• 2:10:16
  this is dope and I like seeing this from WWE, this across promotional collaboration
• 2:10:22
  like this, and I hope to see it more often. Yeah, I
• 2:10:26
  agree. I I've this is something I've been wanting to see for years,
• 2:10:31
  and uh, we're seeing more and more of it. I hope maybe eventually
• 2:10:35
  they send a WWE superstar over there. Maybe it would get eyes on Impact
• 2:10:41
  Wrestling. H I love that idea and having another champion on our show.
• 2:10:48
  Like, guess what, I'm going to tune in because I'm fucking interested.
• 2:10:52
  I'm intrigued, and this is you know, I'm somebody who used to watch
• 2:10:56
  NXC all the time, and I you know, I just stopped because it
• 2:11:01
  was just I'm sorry, when Shawn Michaels took over, it just wasn't the
• 2:11:05
  same as when Triple A chat it and it's just it is what it is.
• 2:11:11
  But this, this has been trigued and I want to tune in as
• 2:11:16
  her sexy red no idea? Who that was? No idea? That's how
• 2:11:20
  you know what we're you know, she's twenty six. We're like, you
• 2:11:24
  know, a lot older, so of course we don't fucking know who that
• 2:11:28
  is. Of course, kids, we of course we don't fucking know.
• 2:11:31
  She has songs like Looking for the Hoes, Poundtown hood Rats, Hellcats and
• 2:11:41
  SRTs and a song called Ski. So I've never heard of any of these
• 2:11:50
  songs. Definitely not been in my playlist for the gym. They're not for
• 2:11:56
  us, exactly, they're not for us, but hey, if it brings
• 2:12:00
  more eyes to the product, I'm all fucking for it, because they have
• 2:12:03
  these people have a fan base that they're bringing with She has over four million
• 2:12:07
  followers, you know. I you know, I'm not sometimes give a shit
• 2:12:11
  less about social media followers. But if for that company, that's good for
• 2:12:16
  them, bringing bringing more eyes over, you know, even if it's just
• 2:12:20
  for her, like oh, I just want to watch her wrestle, still
• 2:12:24
  getting eyes on the product, Still getting somebody to watch it on peacock,
• 2:12:28
  or still getting somebody to tin in on you know, NXT when she's on.
• 2:12:33
  Get those numbers up, so cool, cool man, exactly, And
• 2:12:41
  that's what it's for you. It's for the young people. Like I said,
• 2:12:46
  I don't know what clearly. I mean, she got a pop when
• 2:12:48
  she came out, so obviously the crowd that was in attendance knew who she
• 2:12:52
  was, you know. They It ain't like she came out and they treated
• 2:12:54
  her like a nobody was like, oh hey, whoever this person is.
• 2:12:58
  No, they were into her, you know. So she like like you
• 2:13:03
  said, she has a following and you know she's bringing her following to the
• 2:13:07
  wwe ww's bringing their following to her. It's a it's a win win for
• 2:13:11
  them, and ain't got to be for everybody. Everything ain't meant to be
• 2:13:16
  for everybody. Yeah, you know, but for what they for what they
• 2:13:24
  They got what they needed from each other, I will say. And like
• 2:13:26
  I said, it's smart on their end in the sense that they did it
• 2:13:30
  with NXT. If they try to bring her on raw or SmackDown, I
• 2:13:35
  don't think it would have worked as well. But NXT, your younger stars,
• 2:13:41
  your next generation there, it works out perfectly. Now. The other
• 2:13:48
  thing that happened on uh NXT is for a while now, they've been having
• 2:13:54
  this storyline going between Trick Williams being accused of attacking certain stars on the roster
• 2:14:05
  where he he's as the NXC Champions, says stood accused of having attacked that
• 2:14:11
  starts their names escaping me off the top of my head. That's why I'm
• 2:14:13
  you know, beating around it. But at the end of this week's episode,
• 2:14:18
  we found out who the attacker was, as that person who had been
• 2:14:22
  attacking those stars came out and attacked Trick Williams himself, laid Trick Williams out,
• 2:14:28
  and that person was all Ego Ethan Page formerly of ae W Okay?
• 2:14:39
  Is he a okay? So I'm kind of in the dark hair? Is
• 2:14:43
  he a AEW product? Like? Was he like something that was created?
• 2:14:50
  Like somebody who was created? Jade was created in AW. I don't know
• 2:14:54
  that he was created by AW. I think he's wrestled in other promotions outside
• 2:14:58
  of A before then. But he's been seen as one of those underutilized stars
• 2:15:05
  in AW. He's seen by many from what I've gathered from you know,
• 2:15:09
  talk I've seen online. He's one of those guys that has a whole lot
• 2:15:13
  going for him. He has a lot of talent, a lot of charisma.
• 2:15:15
  Can absolutely go in the ring, this, that and the third,
• 2:15:18
  and just AW just hasn't used him, hasn't utilized him that well, right,
• 2:15:24
  So apparently his contract expired and he's now shown up in NXT completely to
• 2:15:33
  everybody's surprise. And that was the main thing about it is, like I
• 2:15:35
  said, I watched this past episode, this week's episode of NXT. When
• 2:15:39
  he came out, there was a reaction. It wasn't one of those things
• 2:15:43
  where they came out and he's hit the guy and you know, he started
• 2:15:46
  attacking it, uh Trick Williams and everybody was just like like, no,
• 2:15:52
  there was a reaction, Like you saw people even like looking at the crowd,
• 2:15:56
  you can see people like mouths, you know, alls dropped, eyes
• 2:16:01
  open, people you know, point like oh shit, oh shit, Like
• 2:16:05
  there was a reaction like even it was kind of funny, like even the
• 2:16:09
  NXT announcers said that, you know when they uh, when the guy revealed
• 2:16:16
  himself, like I'm the one who's been talking to me, Like you've heard
• 2:16:18
  the announcer say, that's ethan Page. Wasn't he an a? Like they
• 2:16:22
  almost said a nice like it's worth it's actually worth watching and hearing them say
• 2:16:28
  like like wasn't he an a? The booker t cuts off, whoa whoa,
• 2:16:31
  whoa, whoa WHOA like like saying, don't say that company, but
• 2:16:35
  he said two of the three letters. Yeah, he absolutely said two of
• 2:16:39
  the three letters, Like, wasn't he an AE like? So they alluded
• 2:16:41
  to it without actually saying it, And that's pretty clever on their end.
• 2:16:46
  Maybe acknowledging the other company without really acknowledging the other company. Maybe he spent
• 2:16:52
  Maybe he was in adult entertainment. No no, no, no, no,
• 2:16:56
  no aout. They knew exactly what they were doing. They knew exactly
• 2:17:03
  Like I said, it was really clean, like alluding to aw without exclusively
• 2:17:09
  saying like it was. It was smart in a sense that one, even
• 2:17:18
  if you don't know exactly who ethan Page is, just mentioning the number two
• 2:17:22
  company or alluding to them kind of gives credibility to that person, because this
• 2:17:28
  isn't some guy who just you know, came up from the ND's out of
• 2:17:31
  nowhere, or some guy y'all just snatched up from some unknown company, like,
• 2:17:35
  No, this is a guy that we've gotten from that company and he's
• 2:17:41
  now here. Just that alone gives, like I said, gives magnitude,
• 2:17:46
  gives weight to this person if you, even if you don't already know who
• 2:17:50
  he is, but judging by that crowds reaction, they knew who the fuck
• 2:17:54
  he was. That's funny. We'll see what they do from here. But
• 2:18:00
  for that, for that moment itself, it worked and it definitely got people
• 2:18:03
  talking. And like I said, the Internet, the IWC was lit up
• 2:18:07
  at Like I said, Ethan Page debuting at NXT and Jordan Gracy, Jordan
• 2:18:13
  Grace showing up to challenge Rock sand Perez for the NXT Womens Championships. So
• 2:18:20
  NXT was cooking this week. It was a good show. And I mean
• 2:18:24
  even everything else that happened outside of that, they still you know, and
• 2:18:26
  there's still random I mean not random, but they're still standard slate of just
• 2:18:31
  good matches and this, that and the third continuing on. So I don't
• 2:18:37
  know what all is happening at Battleground, but just what I've seen this week
• 2:18:41
  alone is enough for me to say that, Yeah, I'm gonna probably tune
• 2:18:45
  into that POE when it happens, and then I'm pretty sure that's what a
• 2:18:48
  what WWE wants. Again, like you said, like it may not be
• 2:18:54
  the thing for you, you know, you might not be filling the current
• 2:18:56
  product under Shawn Michael's reign as you were on the Triple H, which I
• 2:19:01
  mean, I kind of it. I won't say I get it because I
• 2:19:05
  didn't watch n XT when Triple H was in charge. But I think what
• 2:19:07
  Seaun Michaels is doing down there is good. I actually think he's doing really
• 2:19:11
  good work down there. He's they've had I don't watch it consistently week in
• 2:19:15
  and week out, but every now and then something happens that pops up on
• 2:19:18
  my radar that does draw my attention to the product. And when I do
• 2:19:22
  tune in and see what's going on down there, it's been good. It's
• 2:19:26
  been good stuff. Like last year when Carmelo Hayes and il You're Dragon off,
• 2:19:33
  We're having their rivalry, they had their triple, their trilogy of matches.
• 2:19:37
  Those were great matches, excellent stuff. Even Obafemi, when he popped
• 2:19:43
  up on my radar recently, is becoming the NXC North American Champion. He's
• 2:19:48
  somebody. I think I said it on this show. He's somebody to keep
• 2:19:52
  your eye on. He gonna be something differently just from what I've seen a
• 2:19:56
  little bit of him. He's got the it factor. He's definitely somebody to
• 2:20:00
  watch somebody keep again keep tabs on this crossover collaboration between uh TNA and NXT
• 2:20:09
  and definitely got people talking. Definitely something to keep your eyes on. You
• 2:20:13
  know, Jordan Grace made a big splash at the Rumble this year, so
• 2:20:16
  she's not coming in as just a complete unknown to the WWE audience and she
• 2:20:24
  if it wasn't for the fact that she is in TNA, you'd probably say
• 2:20:26
  that she's overwhelmingly stands more than likely going to win against someone like Roxane Press.
• 2:20:33
  But obviously she's coming from the outside company, so chances are she's probably
• 2:20:37
  not. But what if she does the thing? What if fact an what
• 2:20:43
  if she does? What if WWE is that bold to have Jordan Grace win
• 2:20:50
  the NXT Women's Championship and take it back to TNA. What if this is?
• 2:20:56
  What if this is just the start of some extended collaboration or some extended
• 2:21:03
  storytelling, crossover storytelling between NXT and TNA. Maybe what if this isn't just
• 2:21:07
  a one off thing? This could this could make for something really captivating,
• 2:21:15
  depending on how big or how bold they're willing to be with it. Yeah,
• 2:21:18
  maybe maybe this is just a one off, like Hey, bring your
• 2:21:20
  person in. They'll wrestle a match. YadA YadA. We'll send somebody down
• 2:21:24
  y'all's way and let them, you know, for NXT, down y'all way
• 2:21:26
  and let them have a match. Maybe that's all there is to it,
• 2:21:31
  but maybe there's more that's to be determined, But that enough is plenty to
• 2:21:39
  get me interested and get me watching because I want to see where this goes.
• 2:21:45
  That's all I have to say about this week's NXT. Cool man,
• 2:21:50
  Uh, do you have anything you want to plug before we go? Nothing
• 2:21:56
  else that I really want to plug or anything. Like I said, it
• 2:21:58
  says always you can always find me in a find me in the discord now
• 2:22:03
  lost star, and like I said, share my thoughts and everything week to
• 2:22:09
  week. Nothing else other than that. I just want to give a wrestling
• 2:22:15
  piece to one of my closest friends, my brother Thomas. He was one
• 2:22:18
  of my one of my fraternity brothers, also one of my closest friends,
• 2:22:24
  and he and I bonded years ago over our mutual love of wrestling. He
• 2:22:28
  was a big wrestling fan just like I was, especially back in the Attitude
• 2:22:33
  era of days like so that was our that was our thing, that we
• 2:22:37
  used to always talk about all the time, and especially in the frat house,
• 2:22:39
  Like we used to settle arguments with like wrestling matches, not like real
• 2:22:45
  life physical wrestling matches, but like this was back in the day where like
• 2:22:48
  smack Down was on the PlayStation. So we were having an argument or something
• 2:22:52
  that we couldn't decide on. He'd be the one to just chime in and
• 2:22:54
  be like, bring that shit to smack Down there, And sure enough,
• 2:22:58
  I turn on the PlayStation. We don't putting on SmackDown, grabby sticks,
• 2:23:03
  and we're gonna have a match, and you know, whoever wins, that's
• 2:23:07
  gonna be how we settled this debate. And you could tell about how serious
• 2:23:09
  the debate was or the issue was by what wrestlers we picked. Because if
• 2:23:13
  he grabbed Stone Cold Steve Wahston and I grabbed the Rock, oh, you
• 2:23:16
  know it was real. You know we used debating buy some serious shit.
• 2:23:20
  Man. Yeah. Over the years, we always stayed in touch and you
• 2:23:26
  know, talked about wrestling, kept up on the thing. Even after I
• 2:23:30
  fell off with the product. He was still pop up every now and then,
• 2:23:33
  hit me up and we talked about you know, what was happening and
• 2:23:35
  even if I wasn't following it, you know, I still hear what he
• 2:23:39
  had to say, you know, loosely shine in with some thoughts like if
• 2:23:41
  if I was somewhat if he knew if it was something that else was actually
• 2:23:45
  legitimately interested in, like he wasn't talking to me about. Hey man,
• 2:23:48
  you know the next is challenging Johnson. I don't give a funk about that.
• 2:23:52
  But when you know, when The Rock was challenging John Cena, Oh
• 2:23:54
  yeah, we talked about that because he knew The Rock was my guy.
• 2:23:58
  Yeah, so you know, he knew the things I wasn't like, even
• 2:24:01
  non resting stuff like when Kobe Bryant passed away a few years ago. You
• 2:24:07
  know, soon as that news broke, he was the first one that called
• 2:24:09
  me about it because he knew I was a huge Lakers fan. You know,
• 2:24:13
  he knew that Kobe was my guy. He immediately called me about that.
• 2:24:18
  And as we uh got back, as I got back into wrestling,
• 2:24:22
  I always wanted I wanted to get him on the show at one point about
• 2:24:26
  it, but unfortunately that's sadly never gonna happen. But you know, we
• 2:24:31
  used to talk about everything that was happening with the current product as I got
• 2:24:35
  back into it. He was The last debate that he and I had was
• 2:24:39
  over who had the better entrance theme between Jimmy and Jay Huso some reason.
• 2:24:46
  He was he he felt like Jimmy usso had a better interest thing than Jay
• 2:24:48
  us and I was like tripping. He was like God, He was like,
• 2:24:52
  no, Jay just has the crowd, He just has all the hype.
• 2:24:56
  But the actual song, which one is better? He said Jimmy had
• 2:24:58
  the better song. But that was the last debate that we had. Yeah,
• 2:25:03
  Like I said, my brother, Thomas, I'm miss you. May
• 2:25:07
  rest in peace. Yeah. Man, if anybody wants to find me,
• 2:25:15
  you find me on Twitter a semi dry chicken, you can. I'll send
• 2:25:20
  a I have the link with our podcast. Every time I drop an episode,
• 2:25:24
  it takes you right to our website where if you want to drop a
• 2:25:28
  question in, you want to read on the show for us, a topic
• 2:25:30
  you want us to talk about, if you want to be a guest on
• 2:25:33
  the show, it'll take it to the store. Even it'll take it to
• 2:25:35
  our discord, takes it all the social media network say it's fucking everything,
• 2:25:41
  So uh yeah, we'll come back next time for the preview of the Clash
• 2:25:50
  the Castle. Hopefully we find Doyle and Carlos so already then. Well that
• 2:26:00
  said, let's dip the hell out of here later, y'all later, Bye
• 2:26:05
  bye, bitch. Tonight in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, it's no longer
• 2:26:16
  about how far you've come, but how high you Listen? This is King
• 2:26:22
  and Queen of the Ring. Valkyria versus Jacks for the Queen of the Ring.
• 2:26:31
  Now question good enough, every Desire's the Queen of the Rank. Triple
• 2:26:45
  threat match for the Intercontinal Championship with the plan. Becky Lynch defends the Women's
• 2:27:07
  World Championship against liv Morgan. What does this damn fool doing here? Day
• 2:27:15
  they tail the chair. Let Morgan's the champion. Borton versus good third for
• 2:27:26
  take of the Ring, got their take of the rag. Ody Rhodes defends
• 2:27:46
  his undisputed w w E Championship against Logan Paul, you are the world's dumbest
• 2:28:43
  sign up A bit back that day in and day out, for almost six
• 2:28:48
  years, I improved everybody in the world that I am the best on this
• 2:28:52
  microphone and in that break and give it a commentary, nobody can touch me
• 2:28:58
  you Clevy wal my god, it's because the street perfect and we watched the
• 2:29:07
  sum your talk about your songs, talk about John three sixteen. Homstead three
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