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Best of Chuck & Buck 2-24 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 7: You we've got a long guy or the action never stopped?
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  Speaker 7: Are you writing this down? No?
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  Speaker 2: Something complete? This is chucking buck in the morning. What's
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  Speaker 2: why you? People are beyond you too. Let's go, let's
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  Speaker 2: get the game off. Well, the new intro sped up
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  Speaker 2: the music because it kind of matching my like attitude.
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  Speaker 2: Now I feel friendly, feel feeling sped up, feel frenzied. Okay, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's hard enough to get gas in the morning. It's
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  Speaker 2: a doubly difficult when you go to one gas station
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  Speaker 2: and they're not open for business.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's happened to me before.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you got to go to a second one,
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  Speaker 2: and you weren't really counting on that, and you're already
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  Speaker 2: running a little bit late to begin with, and you
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  Speaker 2: didn't really want to get gas anyway, and then you
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  Speaker 2: have to go to two different gas stations to end
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  Speaker 2: up with a half a tank of gas because everybody
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  Speaker 2: is there that also got denied from the So now
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  Speaker 2: you're sharing a pump with somebody else and it's going
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  Speaker 2: at the you know, it's clicking so slowly that you're
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  Speaker 2: just like enough, I think an eighth is fine. I'll
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  Speaker 2: get to work as long as I can get there. Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 4: I had to actually stop getting gas in the mornings
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  Speaker 4: because I had too many, Like there would be the
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  Speaker 4: credit card machine doesn't work, so then you're going to
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  Speaker 4: the other pump and then you're annoyed just on a
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  Speaker 4: simple one or you know, sometimes none of the machines
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  Speaker 4: are working, and I was like, I don't have the
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  Speaker 4: bandwidth for this in the morning. So as much as
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  Speaker 4: after the show, all I want to do, YEA, go
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  Speaker 4: straight home.
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  Speaker 8: I make myself if I need guess that's what I
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  Speaker 8: gotta do.
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  Speaker 2: It's the solution, it's the smart way to go. And
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  Speaker 2: I think of that every time. But I'm not nearly
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  Speaker 2: as hungry as I am. Yeah on the on the morning,
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  Speaker 2: as I am on the way home, and I'm just
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  Speaker 2: like I'll get it in the morning. I mean how
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  Speaker 2: much more time does it really take? And invariably you're
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  Speaker 2: always running like two minutes behind, and then that makes
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  Speaker 2: you ten minutes behind. It does, and then if you
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  Speaker 2: got to go to the other gas station, that makes
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  Speaker 2: you fifteen minutes behind. And if you've got to share
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  Speaker 2: a pump with you know, Julie, Yeah, then you're seventeen
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  Speaker 2: minutes behind.
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  Speaker 4: So here there was a cop that had pulled someone
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  Speaker 4: over there, so you couldn't just you turn normally.
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  Speaker 2: Do I go all the way down?
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  Speaker 8: Because I was like, I don't want to you turn
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  Speaker 8: right here.
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  Speaker 2: Man, if you got if you're gonna get us for
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  Speaker 2: that boy, even though you'd already pulled someone over, So
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he was gonna like let that person
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  Speaker 2: go to be like, hold on, we've got a bigger problem. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I don't really follow the news anymore, but I gotta
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  Speaker 2: believe that there's a lot more to concern yourself with
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  Speaker 2: than a person you turning at five thirty in the morning.
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  Speaker 8: I think you can like rob a store and they
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  Speaker 8: don't care anymore.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe hope, So maybe you know what. Speaking of which,
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  Speaker 2: I was at the airport and it's the closest i've
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  Speaker 2: ever come to robbing something. Oh, we have those. When
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  Speaker 2: we were at the airport coming back, we were given
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  Speaker 2: these little like gift cards instead of just per diem cash. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: that's what you know. And we had to work our
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  Speaker 2: way towards that because our system for receipts here at
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  Speaker 2: work is awful. Like it doesn't it really doesn't even work. Frankly,
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  Speaker 2: they just they just get frust They just make you
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  Speaker 2: get frustrated with the system and quit and then eat
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  Speaker 2: the money. That's how they do it, okay. And so
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  Speaker 2: we we have settled on a better system, not a
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  Speaker 2: great system, but we have these gift cards. But the
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  Speaker 2: gift card didn't take, and and yet it did take
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  Speaker 2: like it said on there, like fish and funds, and
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  Speaker 2: yet the purchase went through. Oh so I had my
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  Speaker 2: hands full. I walk away and then I get halfway
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  Speaker 2: down there and I'm like, well, wait a minute, because
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  Speaker 2: I was on camera. Yeah, and I'm like, did I
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  Speaker 2: just steal something or not? So I went back and
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  Speaker 2: then well, we can look it up for you if
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  Speaker 2: you like, and you can call your bank. And I said, well,
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  Speaker 2: that's way too much trouble that I want to go through.
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  Speaker 2: I would rather just pay for it twice, so I
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  Speaker 2: can either put it back or I can pay for
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  Speaker 2: it twice. Oh no, no, no, no, sir, you don't
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  Speaker 2: need to do that. We appreciate your honesty. Okay, okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see. So, yeah, I tried, came close
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  Speaker 2: to committing a crime. Yeah, and an American airport, honest
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  Speaker 2: about it. Yes, but they still have my face on camera,
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  Speaker 2: so I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Again, I don't think that they're coming after you in
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  Speaker 4: that situation in an American airport as you. Yeah, they
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  Speaker 4: might get they might well, it depends. I think there's
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  Speaker 4: other things happening.
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  Speaker 2: You would say, just like the U turn situation. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: maybe I can clear up this whole U turn situation
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  Speaker 2: for you.
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  Speaker 8: I think that's from a movie, but I don't know
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  Speaker 8: what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Pam or Pam. Oh yeah, yeah, it's from step Brothers.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, I do know that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good morning, Welcome in. It is Chuck Powllin Ashley
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  Speaker 2: Ryan with you. Yes, solving all of the world's biggest
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  Speaker 2: problems here, feel good about it. At Sports Radio ninety
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  Speaker 2: three point three KJRFM, Bucky Jacobson is not here. He
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  Speaker 2: is on vacation with the family for the next week.
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  Speaker 2: And so it's Ashley and I through a Friday for
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  Speaker 2: you right here on your favorite radio station and the
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  Speaker 2: Galaxy Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. We got
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  Speaker 2: a lot to do today. We got several very interesting
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  Speaker 2: human beings joining us for interviews. And of course we
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  Speaker 2: will dice it up. I mean, it's not an all
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  Speaker 2: football show anymore. It's not an all baseball show anymore
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  Speaker 2: like it kind of was last week. We will dice
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  Speaker 2: it all up here today, give you a nice variety.
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  Speaker 2: We might even have a Weezer play a song for
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  Speaker 2: you who knows Wow, you know, you know, a comedy
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  Speaker 2: sketch by you know, rich Little.
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  Speaker 8: I'll get them on the horn.
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  Speaker 2: You never know, you never. It's a variety four hours,
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  Speaker 2: is what I'm saying. We might even get that red
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  Speaker 2: Panda on the show today to ride her unicycle and
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  Speaker 2: balance plates on her face.
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  Speaker 8: Great radio.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I found you know a magician.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we could actually tell everybody we have Red Panda
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  Speaker 4: because we don't have cameras.
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  Speaker 8: To prove it.
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  Speaker 2: We have the power to do that.
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  Speaker 4: But come Monday, maybe we might have cameras, so then
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  Speaker 4: we couldn't have red Panda.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't have her. That's why I used to
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  Speaker 2: do a bit because I was a radio magician. Nobody
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  Speaker 2: could tell if I was really making the other members
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  Speaker 2: of the show disappear or not.
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  Speaker 8: I like it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to take my word for it, all right.
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  Speaker 2: So let's get started, though. We've got the Combine coming
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  Speaker 2: up on Thursday. And as Adam Schefter said just this
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  Speaker 2: morning and interview, like, nobody really uses the NFL Combine
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  Speaker 2: for as much as they once did for draft purposes.
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  Speaker 2: The NFL Combine itself is sort of used for, you know,
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  Speaker 2: kind of meeting and conducting business. He even said this
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  Speaker 2: morning that some teams don't even go anymore to the
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  Speaker 2: NFL Combine. What the Combine really is set up for
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  Speaker 2: is it will set off an alarm. Occasionally during the
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  Speaker 2: course of the four days of the workouts, you will
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  Speaker 2: think you've got to read on a player, and then
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, that player ends up running a
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  Speaker 2: four two, five forty and you're like, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 2: wait a minute, I did not know he was that fast.
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  Speaker 2: And it forces you to go back and look at
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  Speaker 2: the tape a little differently now that I know he's
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  Speaker 2: got that kind of speed. How now does that translate
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  Speaker 2: when I watch his game on film? But the film,
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  Speaker 2: the tape, whatever you want to call it, is still
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  Speaker 2: going to the day you're scouting, is still going to
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  Speaker 2: carry the day. The only thing the combine is really
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  Speaker 2: set up for is to possibly identify a player that
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  Speaker 2: maybe you need to reevaluate, right, maybe he's more athletic
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  Speaker 2: than you thought, or maybe he's far less athletic.
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  Speaker 8: Maybe his arms are little reptile arms and you had
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  Speaker 8: no idea.
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  Speaker 2: Stuff like that. It just makes you evaluate them differently.
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  Speaker 2: And if you like him enough, you're still going to
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  Speaker 2: take reptile arm guy because you love his game and
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't seem to hinder him on a football field,
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  Speaker 2: but it does kind of cause you. I've won every
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  Speaker 2: few players to reevaluate and maybe look at the film
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  Speaker 2: a little differently, And then I think, really, why the
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  Speaker 2: NFL combine is still around and it hasn't just been
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  Speaker 2: flushed quite frankly, is that for me? It's a tremendous
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  Speaker 2: cheat sheet. It's an opportunity for those that do love
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  Speaker 2: the draft, and you can't watch every college football game
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  Speaker 2: that you get to sit there and you get to
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  Speaker 2: identify the players and allow Daniel Jeremiah and Charles Davis
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  Speaker 2: and Rich Eisen and their cast of thousands that the
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  Speaker 2: NFL Network uses to give you information that you wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: have had otherwise. It's a cheat code for Draftmas, frankly,
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  Speaker 2: and that's why it's sort of essential in the entire
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  Speaker 2: Draftmas holiday process. But long way of saying that, really,
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  Speaker 2: what John Schneider is doing in Indianapolis is not necessarily
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  Speaker 2: carrying a stopwatch around trying to find out if that
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  Speaker 2: guard from Idaho State actually runs a sub five point forty.
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  Speaker 2: He's there to conduct business. He is there to meet
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  Speaker 2: with other general managers. He is there actually working the
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  Speaker 2: phones with agents. He's trying to re sign as part
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  Speaker 2: of his week, guys that he wants to keep for
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  Speaker 2: next year. And the name that certainly comes to mind
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  Speaker 2: is ken Walker. And we've discussed him quite a bit,
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  Speaker 2: and I think we probably are going to discuss him
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  Speaker 2: quite a bit more before we actually know what ken
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  Speaker 2: Walker is thinking. And I mean, here's sort of my
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  Speaker 2: baseline with how I've operated with the ken Walker free
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  Speaker 2: agency process to date. To me, I think that his
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  Speaker 2: excellent performance, you know, helps you win a super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: We'll take that, but it also sort of belies the
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  Speaker 2: player that you had under your system for the last
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  Speaker 2: four years. I mean, he hadn't had three games that great,
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  Speaker 2: that consistently in his well maybe going back all the
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  Speaker 2: way to his rookie season when he finished so strong,
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  Speaker 2: but maybe not at all. That might have been his
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  Speaker 2: three best games that he's ever played, and they just
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  Speaker 2: so happened to be in the playoffs, and it crowns
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  Speaker 2: with a Super Bowl Most Valuable Player award, and so
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  Speaker 2: his value skyrockets. But the Ken Walker camp might argue, well,
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  Speaker 2: that's because you didn't have another running back getting in
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  Speaker 2: the way of him getting the football, and running backs
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  Speaker 2: need petition, they want to be fed, and you kept
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  Speaker 2: using him as a one to A to a one
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  Speaker 2: B running back all season long and for parts of
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  Speaker 2: last season. And so now the NFL got a look
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  Speaker 2: at what this guy can do when he has just
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  Speaker 2: fed the rock, and look what he did. And so
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  Speaker 2: that's the argument on that side. The argument on the
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks side is, well, we gave him four years and
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  Speaker 2: we kind of wanted him to become that running back,
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  Speaker 2: and he just kept trying to find the big play.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there was a game earlier this year that
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  Speaker 2: I circled. It was the most frustrated I've ever been
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  Speaker 2: with ken Walker, And believe me, since his rookie season,
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  Speaker 2: I was expecting huge things. I think I've had ken
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  Speaker 2: Walker three of his four years in existence on my
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  Speaker 2: fantasy Yeah, are you just you circle him? Because I
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  Speaker 2: expected big things out of him and we just haven't
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  Speaker 2: gotten that during the regular season, And clearly there was
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  Speaker 2: some frustration from the Seahawks. Otherwise, he doesn't share carries
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  Speaker 2: backfield with a guy that has been described as a
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  Speaker 2: bruiser that will give you tough yards. You know why
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  Speaker 2: you have a guy that you're sharing carries with that
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  Speaker 2: is considered a bruiser who gets you tough yards because
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  Speaker 2: there's a belief that you can't get tough yards and
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  Speaker 2: we know that he can. I mean he's strong. Ken
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  Speaker 2: Walker is strong. It's one of the more underreported things
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  Speaker 2: about him. But was he getting you the tough yards?
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  Speaker 2: Was he taking three yards when two was available? Sharbon
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  Speaker 2: Ay gives you that. And I think there were some
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  Speaker 2: frustrations for four years with this guy not running the
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  Speaker 2: play like it was designed. I mean, we know that
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  Speaker 2: Pete Carroll sat him down at one point. And we
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  Speaker 2: know that Mike McDonald I wouldn't say benched him this
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  Speaker 2: past couple of seasons, but there were times where it's
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  Speaker 2: like keep Sharbonay in the game, you know, in the
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  Speaker 2: last couple of years under Mike McDonald. So certainly there's
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  Speaker 2: been some frustrations. And yet they drafted him. They knew
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  Speaker 2: his potential all all and everybody got to see us
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  Speaker 2: potential and there had to be a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: an element of maybe we should have been doing this
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  Speaker 2: all along. Maybe we should have been giving him all
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  Speaker 2: of the carries and Charbonay only plays when he needs
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  Speaker 2: a breather. Well, and look, Mike Holmgren and Hugh Millen
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  Speaker 2: Monday Morning Quarterback after the Super Bowl both said to
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  Speaker 2: the question why was Ken Walker so successful the last
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  Speaker 2: three weeks because Charbonne's not there, both of them, And
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  Speaker 2: these are the two smartest football players that we come
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  Speaker 2: in football, people that we come in contact with around
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  Speaker 2: easier parts that KJR and so I think there's a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of blame the Seahawks have to wear a
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  Speaker 2: little bit for this, but there's also a little bit
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  Speaker 2: that goes to Ken Walker as well. And so now
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  Speaker 2: here he is at free agency, are you going to
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  Speaker 2: break your back to sign him? Because you're going to
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  Speaker 2: have to spend a lot more than you thought. I
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  Speaker 2: went to spoke track the moment the season was over
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  Speaker 2: to see what his free agency value was, and they
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  Speaker 2: were saying eight million dollars a year. I mean, there
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  Speaker 2: is no way that he's only going to do. I
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  Speaker 2: don't take a contract of eight million dollars a year.
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  Speaker 2: They've since bumped it because I'm looking at the page
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  Speaker 2: right now to nine million dollars a year. There is
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  Speaker 2: no way he's going to accept nine million dollars per year.
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  Speaker 2: Javonte Williams for the Dallas Cowboys just got a three
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  Speaker 2: or twenty four million dollar deal. So unfortunately for running backs,
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  Speaker 2: that kind of is the market for guys that aren't
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  Speaker 2: proven stars. But you also are what the market is
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  Speaker 2: willing to pay you. And there's no doubt that this
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  Speaker 2: is a hot name right now. That just showed the
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  Speaker 2: world that if you make me number one, not one A,
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  Speaker 2: you make me number one, look what I can do
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  Speaker 2: in the biggest moments on the biggest stage. So I
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  Speaker 2: think that that salary will be far superior to nine
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  Speaker 2: million dollars, and it's just how much higher do the
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks want to go. I think I think, despite what
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  Speaker 2: I've said in the past, like I think, you do
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  Speaker 2: go a little more than what you're comfortable of doing,
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  Speaker 2: because right now, there's really not a great free agent
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  Speaker 2: market for running backs, and it's not a great draft
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  Speaker 2: this year for running backs. And so you know that
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  Speaker 2: he works, and you just saw him recently work really well,
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  Speaker 2: and you know that he gets along in the clubhouse
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  Speaker 2: because he's just so easy going that everybody likes ken Walker,
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  Speaker 2: or so it does appear, but there's also from frustrations.
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  Speaker 2: You know, in the Red Solo Cup speech, there was
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  Speaker 2: a reason that John Schneider just kind of turned and
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  Speaker 2: like ken Walker everybody he made it a point to
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  Speaker 2: bring up ken Walker, and he made a point to
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  Speaker 2: make eye contact with ken Walker to make sure that
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  Speaker 2: ken Walker heard some love. But it was kind of awkward.
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  Speaker 7: Why.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why it was awkward, But there I'm
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  Speaker 2: having a hard time reading just how much they would
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  Speaker 2: want to sign him. But you obviously are gonna need
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  Speaker 2: a couple running backs if he walks out of Seattle.
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  Speaker 2: Who might that be? I mean, Travis atn is a
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  Speaker 2: free agent, but he's probably gonna get more than what
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  Speaker 2: the market suggests he's going to get, and that to
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  Speaker 2: me is a slight downgrade from what you have. Pretty
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  Speaker 2: good player, but I don't think he has the explosion
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  Speaker 2: that ken Walker has. Other than that, I mean, you're
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  Speaker 2: looking at Rashad White and ric o'dowdell and Isaiah Pacheco.
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  Speaker 2: I mean you just getting down to Pacheco and I
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  Speaker 2: have no interest at all and what's on the free
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  Speaker 2: agent market draft wise, Yeah, you can get somebody, and
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about a couple of guys later on
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  Speaker 2: in the show when we do a Pajama Party preview,
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  Speaker 2: but certainly that you know, unless you get Brece Hall,
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  Speaker 2: there's really not another ken Walker that is available on
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  Speaker 2: the free agent market. I think at ten is in
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  Speaker 2: the conversation with ken Walker. But that's just what robbing
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  Speaker 2: Peter to pay Paul. That is, let's not pay the
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  Speaker 2: salary for ken Walker, but we will for Travis Eten.
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  Speaker 2: That doesn't quite make sense to me. So this is
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  Speaker 2: gonna be fascinating. I think maybe you do make yourself
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: a little bit uncomfortable if you're the Seahawks willing to
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: go to that four year, forty four million dollars deal
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: for Walker because I think that's at least what it's
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: going to take. But my guess is actually that it's
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: going to go even higher than that. I think it's
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: going to go to like twelve forty eight or twelve
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: fifty or some excuse me, four or forty eight or
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: four fifty or something like that.
• 17:36
  Speaker 7: And I do.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Believe that that the rest of the league's going to
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: price the Seahawks out of this, because the Seahawks aren't
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: as desperate as some other teams to win, obviously, and
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: so I don't think this is going to end up
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: working out. But I do believe that the Seahawks, just
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: to put a finishing point on it, do need to
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: go to the point of discomfort to keep him because
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure I love the options to replace him
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: out there.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, And I would think it is interesting to
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: hear Spotrek say eight or nine million dollars. I would
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: think the Seahawks would probably go up to twelve and
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: that would make them very uncomfortable. A lot of people
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: have asked, well, what about franchise tagging him? That's a
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: fourteen million dollar price tag for day and a half. Yeah,
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: there's and that's just at that point, which is baffling
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: to me. If spow Track's saying eight to nine million
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: dollars in the franchise tag is fourteen and a half
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: million dollars, that just seems like it's outrageous for any
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: of these running backs. So I think, but I think
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised at a twelve million dollars a
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: year contract.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: I think they could push it up to eleven, maybe twelve.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: I think James Cook ended up getting around twelve last
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: year when he held out. And also keep this in mind,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: one other point on this, he's twenty five years old.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: No general manager slash executive in the National Football League
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: loves young free agents more than John Schneider.
• 18:57
  Speaker 8: It's true.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: I mean he took have you seen Devin Bush is
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: still only twenty eight years old? Remember when we got
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Devin Bush and they were like, well, how long has
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: that guy been in the league? Four years? How old
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: is he twenty two or something like that. It was great,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: he's still only twenty eight years old. In the National
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Football League, John loves young free agents that he loved
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: four years ago at the draft loves them, Yes he does.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: And here he has somebody that he actually drafted. And
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: he is the youngest free agent on the market at
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: his position by a considerable margin. And so I mean
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: if he was if ken Walker was playing for the
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Broncos last year and became a free agent, John to
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: be all over this guy. So just because he got
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: a little bit of a history with him, a little
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: bit of experience with him, and it all wasn't always
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: skittles and rainbows with ken Walker. Recognize what you've got.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: He's not a disruptive influence whatsoever. And I don't think
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: pushing it from nine million to twelve million a year
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: considering you have seventy three million dollars with a cap
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: space h is something that I would rule out. I
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: would try to get. I would make myself a little
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: financially uncomfortable. I'd go a little bit over what I
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: had originally intended to pay or offer ken Walker to
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: try to keep him, because I am just not in
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: love with the other options out. I agree, All right,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: let's find out what's on tap for the rest of
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: the show. What's on to what's on tep? All right,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: NFL combine wee. Greg Bell is actually going to make
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: his way. I think he's already made his way.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: He I talked texted with him last night. They had
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: four more hours to go in their eleven hour sleigh ride.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: As he called it, Oh my gosh, why did you
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: do that?
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Greg?
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: And he said he would be talking to us from
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: somewhere in Indiana this morning.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: You know what, you had an opportunity trapped in a
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: hotel room in Boston watching two feet of snow grow
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: with your wife. It could have been I mean, that's
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: like a romantic movie, I know.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Instead, they walked like a half mile to a rental
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: car place and then drove through the snow basically, I
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: think until they got to Ohio.
• 20:59
  Speaker 8: I think it's the whole way.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you could have had some romantic You could have
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: had the notebook there with your what and instead you
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: turned it into planes, trains, and automobile and that.
• 21:08
  Speaker 8: He did reference that planes, trains and jeep.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts, by the way, is going to be franchise
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: tagged by the Atlanta Falcons. No word as to whether
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: or not he hates that idea, but Pitt's had a
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: pretty decent year. May have salvaged what was looking like
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: a bust of a career this past season. It's got
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: a new offensive minded head coach there in Atlanta. They
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: want to keep him, so he's going to get franchise tag.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Same thing might happen to George Pickens coming off a
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: career year with the Dallas Cowboys, but he's not going
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: to like it at all, and his agent has made
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: that very clear. So of course the Dallas Cowboys are
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: going to try to drive a hard bargain. Stay in
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: the headlines with George Pickens, have him hold out and
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: what have you. It's just amo cracking. We're going to
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: be at the Stars tomorrow. We got a cracking ticket
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Tuesday today, So be listening for your opportunity to win
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: a pair of cracking tickets every hour at two, six, two, eight, six,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: ninety five, ninety five. B the tenth caller, of course,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: coming off the gold medal win for the US in Canada,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I think there's a little bit of hockey fever going
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: on here in America, here in Seattle, and we're going
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: to try to satiate that. Ellie Tolvenan's going to join
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: us today at seven thirty and we'll have our normal
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: eight thirty conversation with the great Everett fits you the
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: sounders off to a one and oh start play again
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: this weekend. We'll dive into that later on this week.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: And Mariner spring training continued yesterday with a loss to
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Dodgers by a final score of three
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: to nothing. But there were some interesting things that happened
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: in that game that I cannot wait to discuss with
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: you right here on Chuck and Buck. And speaking of
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Mariners spring training, we were just there last week providing
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: our award winning coverage. Just try to top it. I
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: feel bad for the pop. We'll try to top it,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Ellen Kin fools fools erin. Well, we're going to replay
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: some of the interviews so we did last week, at
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: least chunks of them, one per day throughout the course
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: of the week. And if you did not hear our
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: conversation with Andres Munnos, I'm still blown away by how
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: much I enjoyed actually having him on the air and
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: finally getting a chance to interview our closer. So we're
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: gonna replace some of that for you. Next it is chugging'
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Buck here on a Tuesday Sports Radio ninety three point
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: three KJRFM. This is a segment we do and have
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: done for ten years here on the radio show Wednesdays
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: at seven forty five. But Bucky, you know, this is
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: my opportunity to get really, you know, a little nut
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: so here and Bucky has a little hard time when
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: I get just kind of nuts. Well, this just kind
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: of lets me off the rails. So I got to
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: deal with his judgment all the time. So while he's
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: away this week, I'm gonna do a reckless of breakfast
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: every single day this week, and we'll bounce it around
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: the show, not just have it to obviously Wednesdays. And
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: for the second day in a row, I'm going to
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: use the same topic because and I wasn't gonna do this.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: I was gonna do something baseball related today because I
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: don't know if anybody can figure out the NBA tanking issue.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: And yet this story happened yesterday and so now I
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: have to talk about it. Yusuf Nurkic, who is a
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: big man for the Utah Jazz, it was announced yesterday
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: it's going to undergo nose surgery and sit out the
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: rest of the season.
• 24:29
  Speaker 8: The rest of the season, this is.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Already a team that was under the microscope for blowing
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: games not playing their starters.
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: So did their no surgery blowing games.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: And then they've had They acquired Jaron Jackson Junior from
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Memphis at the trading deadline, and he's had an injury
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: and a surgery procedure that will cost him the rest
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: of the year. And now yesterday, apparently Nurkic's knows his
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: recent sickness has been just so debilitating he can't possibly
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: play basketball again with a stuffed up nose.
• 25:06
  Speaker 8: Wow, it's too difficult.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: So he's having a surgical procedure and he can't possibly
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: pay basketball again. Now maybe I mean, I'm no doctor.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Maybe this is very serious and I'm making light of it.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: The point of it is, it reads again like the
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Utah Jazz are trying to find creative ways in order
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: to lose games so they can improve their standing for
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: the lottery, which I don't trust anyway. So again, the
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: NBA is going to go a long way this offseason
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: in trying to fix their tanking issue or try to
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: decentivize tanking in the most creative way possible. So I
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: present to you this here on Reckless at Breakfast. My
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: brother who while he was in college, got a job
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: and he was is this place called Hit and Run
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: and he would deliver groceries. So you just pulled up
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: and then you would order your groceries and he would
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: run into the store and he'd gather all the groceries
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: and he'd bring him back out to you. Okay, that's
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: the way it worked. I mean, it seems like pretty
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: reasonable system. We have a very similar thing today, but
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: at the time it was revolutionary. Yes, and so this
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: is the job he had, and he ran across a
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: lot of really unusual characters, both those in the employ
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: of Hit and Run and then the customers that he
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: ran into, many of them regulars because it was in
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: a bit of a CD part of town. So he
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: ended up making a board game about his Hit and
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Run experience that he played with the family. Very creative project.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure it was worth the time and effort
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: that went into it, but we ended up playing the
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Hit and Run board game numerous times. And a little wrinkle,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: the little creative aspect that he made was as you
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: were playing, and there was comedy throughout it. The cards
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: were all comedic. As you were playing, you didn't know
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: what the objective was because underneath the board would be
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: a slip of paper, and then you would play the game,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: and then as soon as the game was finished, you'd
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: take out the piece of paper and you'd read it
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: and it would say whoever finished furthest from the finish
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: line as your winner. So, in other words, you didn't
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: know you could be you. You could be the first
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: of the finish line, or you could have the most
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: hit and run dollars, or you could be you could
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: end up in hit and run jail, and you could
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: still win, and you could still win. You never knew
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: what the objective was because underneath the board it was predetermined.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: You know who who ended up winning the game. Okay,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: So it seems ridiculous, and yet it would be an
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: improvement over what they're doing. And the point that I'm
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: trying to make is in the NBA, if at the
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: beginning of if you had the lottery at the beginning
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: of the year and not at the end of the year,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: and you put the envelopes and they were stacked like
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: they were twenty four seven cameras, so nobody knows they
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: were tamed. Maybe at the NBA headquarters they're in glass
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: cases that are locked and that they're on twenty four
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: to seven camera surveillance, and they just sit there all
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: year long. And then at the end of the year,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: the number one pick goes to who and you open
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: it up the team with the eighth worst record in
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: the NBA, and the second pick goes to the team
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: with the twelfth worst record in the NBA. Yes, we're
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: still going to give the top draft picks to the
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: teams that don't make the playoffs, but you absolutely can't
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: do anything to improve your lottery chances by losing on
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: purpose this way, because it's just gonna be random, dumb
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: luck for whoever misses the playoffs as to whether or
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: not you're gonna end up with the number one pick
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: or the number two pick or the number ten pick.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: So it behooves you to make the playoffs and avoid
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: this process entirely because you're not gonna have an advantage.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: We're not gonna weigh it in your favor. It's just
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: gonna be dumb luck. At the beginning of the year,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: it was in an envelope, secretly on full display, and
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: yet Captain's secret the entire year, unbeknownst to anyone else
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: in the world that the team with the fourth worst
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: record in the NBA was going to end up with
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: the number one pick.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it wouldn't be team specific, just your position
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: is where you'd fall.
• 29:19
  Speaker 8: I think that's a good idea. Yeah, And also I
• 29:21
  Speaker 8: would like to give Utah credit though, for their creativity.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: It's like, you know, if everybody in school comes in
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: with the excuse, oh, I didn't do my homework because
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: or my dog ate my homework. But then another kid's like, well,
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: let me tell you what happened to my homework and
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: they go on an elaborate story.
• 29:35
  Speaker 8: I'm like, you know what.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: Everybody else fails, but kid, you came in ready to
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: do business and I like it.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. My dog has a deviated septimy. Yeah, and that's
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: why he ate my homework.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and he tried to he was trying to fix
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: his nose on his own.
• 29:52
  Speaker 8: It wouldn't work.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll say, Danny Ainge will bite. I mean he
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: was a player. He would bite, scratch, whatever it took
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: to win. He's the same way as an executive. So
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: you can tell him don't tank and he'll be like why.
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: He'll be like, I'm want to find I'm not tanking.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sir, Yeah, I'll find a creative way to lose games.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: I'll put my best players on the il with mysterious injuries.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: You can't do anything about that. Yeah, all right, Coming
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: up next headlines plus Greg Bell Sports Radio ninety three
• 30:20
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• 30:38
  Speaker 2: this Tuesday, Good morning to you. My name is Chuck Howell,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Ashley Ryan here as well Nobucky Jacobson. All week long.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: He is vacationing, and so he will miss our conversation
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: with Ellie Tolbnan, which is coming up later on this
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: hour as he's coming off an Olympic appearance and getting
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: ready for the Dallas Stars tomorrow night in Texas, and
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: we'll get your ready for that as well. Greg Bell's
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: also joining us here in a matter of moments as
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: we get our second hour started here on this second
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: day of the week. But first we start with your headlines.
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• 31:26
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• 31:30
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• 31:33
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• 31:49
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• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Looks like Kyle Pitts is going to be tagged by
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons. We are still in the franchise tag window.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: The Dallas Cowboys are threatening to do the same with
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: George Pickens, coming off a career year, his first year
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: with the Star on his helmet. Pickens doesn't seem to
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: like that idea. Meanwhile, Kyle Pitts hasn't been nearly as vocal,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: but he probably doesn't like it either. Kracking will be
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• 32:36
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• 32:39
  Speaker 2: ready for the NHL season to resume tomorrow night. Let's
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: see Mariner's spring training it, of course continues the there
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: two and two on the Young spring training schedule. The
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Dodgers shut him out yesterday by a final score of
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: three to nothing. But the real story was that Logan
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Gilbert took the mound for the first time and an
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: exhibition game. He went two innings, allowed one hit, walked
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: to struck out two, and bragged about his dad's strength
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: after the game. And so Mariner shut out by the Dodgers.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: But really hard to read into anything spring training in
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: a spring training game, and so they'll play again today.
• 33:19
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  Speaker 2: All Right, so yesterday we talked to Greg while he
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: was in Boston bracing for a snowstorm and was trapped
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: inside a snow globe to use his words, and today
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: he decided to get out of that situation. Uh, why
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: don't you update us on what you've done in the
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: last twenty four hours?
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: Is anyone chair? Good morning, Good morning.
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: Last Caroline just told me I'd be in Boston until Thursday,
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: so I said, well, instead of just sitting in the
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: hotel room for three days, my wife and I had
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: just trudged out in the Lizard and rented a car.
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: We had our pick of the entire lot of Boston
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: Logan Airport rental cars, nobody running them on And.
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: I'm a commisio driving any Indianapolis get the tour of
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: the Midwest, about sixteen hour drive all told.
• 34:44
  Speaker 7: That time I get there.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Wow, Oh my gosh, How did you talk her into that?
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Because I would have thought a hotel room in the
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: middle of a snowstorm would have been very cozy.
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: Well, she's a big fan of John Candy and Steve Martin.
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: So she really like explaining strains and automobiles since she
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: wanted to re enact that. We were actually walking down
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: the street in Boston with's anyone who's been in Boston
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: on a Monday afternoon who knows you can't do that.
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: There's goodlock and car pumpkin horns.
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: And we were pulling.
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: Our bags and walking straight down at North Station of Boston,
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: right down the middle of the street. I mean, Daniel
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: Hall was to our right. It was just a really
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: odd scene. It got like twenty inches of snow chuck
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: in about twelve hours.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: It just dumped.
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: And the whole town shut down. And my wife said,
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: you know, I love you.
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: It would be cool for maybe a night or two,
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: but three or four nights, I'm not sure I want
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: to just sit at a hotel. Well, I'm really supposed
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: to be at work. You're supposed to be in Indiana.
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: Why don't we go see my mom and brother and
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: go to Alira, Ohio, where she grew up. I said, okay,
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: because that's on the way to Endianapolis shirt and we
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: throve through.
• 35:58
  Speaker 7: It was a it was like driving on the side
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: of Mount Baker for the first hour or so. Wow.
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: After that it was okay, Wow, you.
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: Think you went to Syracuse, New York who the end
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: of the day have really good burritos on a Monday
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: night in Syracuse, New York. And we also tried to
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: get Cocola divond prosecco in Syracuse, and we failed to
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: find a place that has open on a Monday night.
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: Since we wanted to be able to tell the story
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: here on.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: The show this morning, Well, you too are brave. You
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: are adventurers. I'm glad you're safe. That's all that really matters.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: How far away then are you from Indianapolis at this point?
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: How about three hours.
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: I'll get there right before John Snyder talks to the
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: indian Convention Center. I'll probably roll into my sweat pants
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: and snow here and say, hey.
• 36:49
  Speaker 7: What's up. Yeah, I'm kind of a little post but wow,
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: my wife's hardy, she's a good stock. So it's a
• 36:59
  Speaker 7: little adventure. But yeah, that snow was no joke.
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: My daughter's got three or four days off of school
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: and the Coast Guard Academy in Connecticut. When the military
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: starts canceling stuff, it's it's usually a decent deal.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Oh man, No, John Candy, Steve Martin got nothing on YouTube.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: If Wendy ends up having to sell shower rings to
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: finish the trip out where let us know.
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: Because we were dreaming about accordy into the back of
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: a rental van.
• 37:28
  Speaker 7: Last night and we didn't.
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: We get next to get tabs and experience that actually
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: wasn't so bad that it was an adventure.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Wow, I'm yeah, we might if you end up late,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: that's me. The only story you're gonna have to write
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: is how you almost got to Indianapolis.
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: That's right, I'll get there.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell is with us, our Seahawks insider, doing everything
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: he can, going through a snowstorm to deliver you the
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: latest Sea Hawk information and news. All right, So when
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: you get to Indianapolis, what's the story? What's the topic?
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: What is it that you can't wait to ask? John
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Schneider there in your sweatpants.
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: Well, what I want to ask him in one he'll answer,
• 38:13
  Speaker 7: are two different things.
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: What I probably will ask him is the status of
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: Kenneth Balker negotiations.
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: Because that to me is gonna say what the rest
• 38:20
  Speaker 7: of their spring is like. If they and he's not
• 38:23
  Speaker 7: going to.
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: Answer very much detail. He'll say they love to have
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: Ken back. They're talking to his agents. It's an ongoing process.
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: He's earned the rights for this opportunity, blah blah blah.
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: But it will ship what they do the rest of
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: the spring, right, I mean, Chuck, If they don't have
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: a if their Super Bowl MVP running back goes into
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: free agency to has bidder.
• 38:44
  Speaker 7: They don't have a lead running back. Zach Charbaonday is
• 38:47
  Speaker 7: going to.
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: Be out of Beast into probably September, October pest at
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: the beginning.
• 38:51
  Speaker 7: Of the season, touring ACL in January, that Division flow.
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: Game against San Francisco. That's typically an eight to twelve
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: month injurre in for a running back that has to
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: touch sharply. You can't bring them back seventy five percent
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: like Dave Lucas did with the surgery a couple of
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: years ago. He's got to be one hundred plus percent.
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: So you're talking about going from the Super Bowl MVP
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: running back in the offense that was among the most
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: of the league running ball and plans on being it
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: again this year with their new offensive corner Brian Floury.
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: Straight out of the end, Kubiac mold.
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: You're going from that to nothing if what Walker walks
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: out the door.
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: So to me, that's the story of the combine because
• 39:33
  Speaker 7: if they don't recy Walker, they only have four picks.
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: One of them better be a running back.
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: And even if they do recy Walker, one of them
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: probably should be a running back. To Strawberty's conjacked ends after.
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: The coming season.
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: It's the most important position on the team yet because
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: of the finances that we've talked about Chuck Near that
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: leads unwillingness to spend a lot of guaranteed money as
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: the second contract at that position for how much they get.
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: Heard the Seahawks need him, they need more running backs.
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: They're at a place that will have more running backs
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: this week at the Combine. But they got the best
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: one in the sport right now, the Super Bowl MVP.
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: If they have a chance to offer before March ninth.
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: But it's crazy to see me Begins.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: And nobody in the league likes young free agents more
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: than John Schneider. I mean, he loves getting that guy
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: that he liked four years ago in the draft process.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: That is still twenty five years old, and he thinks
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: he can still get the best football out of him. Well,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: here you have a guy that fits that mold, that's
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: been in your system. It's your own guy. So where
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: would the hang up be? Where would the frustrations lie?
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: What would keep the Seahawks from making Ken Walker a
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: long term Seahawk.
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: Well, you're right, because he's still only twenty five years old, Chuck.
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: But if you look at him through kettle Walker's perspective,
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: they could have done this long time ago. They could
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: have done before this season. They could have done it
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: during this season. They could have done it when they
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: did Abe Lucas and during the season, and Naugay could
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: have done it when they did Charles Cross during the playoffs,
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: and they didn't. So if you're the new agent, David
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: Cancer is this new agent, he just hired him for
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: the se title game. If you're talking to your client,
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: the first question would be why we don't know them? Anay,
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: we should be shopping and getting the most money we
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: can give you because you don't know when your next injury.
• 41:28
  Speaker 7: Could be at running back and you got to get all.
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: You can't when you castro of any position, but especially
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: running back.
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: But because of the.
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: Seahawks having the opportunity for the last year plus and
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: we had we know the reasons why I didn't offer him,
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: and I asked, yeah.
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: I asked Walker at the Super Bowl a couple of
• 41:44
  Speaker 7: weeks ago, have they even come to you about an
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: extension and a new deal? And he said, not that
• 41:49
  Speaker 7: I know of that. Those are the same words forbade
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: him and he gave me in August when I ask
• 41:53
  Speaker 7: him the same question.
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: So if they haven't even come to him yet, and
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: now they're going to come to him February twenty fifth
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: or March second, or even Martie the night before the
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: free agency negotiating period starts, if you're.
• 42:06
  Speaker 7: Him and his agent, what would stop them for saying, ha, Hi,
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: you had your chance. I'm gonna go shot down and
• 42:11
  Speaker 7: see what else people play offer me, and then if
• 42:14
  Speaker 7: I don't like the dealer, I'll give you a chance
• 42:16
  Speaker 7: to match. After that. Sure, but the price goes up,
• 42:20
  Speaker 7: of course for.
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: The Seahawks and doing What would keep the Seahawks from
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: signing him is if that price with multiple bidders got.
• 42:26
  Speaker 7: So high that scaded.
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: You know what, Let's roll with a new Kenneth Parker
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: like they did after Chris Carson, like they did after
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: Marshawn Lenz, like they did.
• 42:35
  Speaker 7: After Thomas Rols.
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: You go draft you next guy and pay him a
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: rookie deal without a ton of guaranteed money, so you can.
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: Go spend that guaranteed money in capspace somewhere else.
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: That's obviously what's in the back of Schneyder's mind, or
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: else he would have offered.
• 42:50
  Speaker 7: For probably signed Mark.
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: What they didn't plan on was for Charbon Day to
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: get hurt and be out in the next season, and
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: for Walker to blow up like he did on a
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: world stage.
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: And be the NBPA the Super Bowl.
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: They when they tad Walker's market during the season and
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: before the season what it might take to bring him back,
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: they didn't.
• 43:09
  Speaker 7: Count on him being at a parade.
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: In Disneyland with Mickey Mouse the day after the Super Bowl.
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: That changed the money on them. So now did that
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: money change the point where it's too it's physics. It's
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: not about whether they can, because they've got the cap space.
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: They could do it if they want to. It's about
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: whether they will because of the position.
• 43:28
  Speaker 7: To Walker play.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Well, if they don't greg spend the money, even if
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: it's more than they were intending on Walker, what do
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: they spend their cap space on their own guys extensions
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: for guys that aren't quite free agents yet JSN And
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: whether Spoon or or is this gonna be a frenzy
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: that the Seahawks will be involved in it here in
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks when when the free agency process begins, yes, yes,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: and no?
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: Okay, you know you know John Snad enough to know
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: he's not gonna get in the being more if anybody
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: going to the first day of Fridge in frenzy and
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: all that, I mean, Draymond Jones is about as much
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: as he's gonna splash and that splashed back in his face.
• 44:08
  Speaker 7: And blew up, and then we.
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: Got a season out of him before they got rid
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: of Raymond Jones.
• 44:13
  Speaker 7: With a ton of guaranteed money, they are.
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: Gonna get a new jsnvel done that could be close
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: to two hundred million dollars.
• 44:20
  Speaker 7: To me, I think Devin Witherspoon is that it has.
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: Been consistently the best, most impactful player for the last
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: three years three Pro Bowls.
• 44:29
  Speaker 7: They typically get those guys done before their rookie season.
• 44:33
  Speaker 7: At the rookie contract ends the year of their final deal,
• 44:36
  Speaker 7: and now all of.
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: A sudden, that's where Wintherspoon will be this time next summer.
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: I would expect that would be more into the summer
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: right around and start a training camp. Nobody's talking about
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: Kobe Bryant, but Mike McDonald loves him, loves how smart
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: he is, loves how solidified, how he just solidified to
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: back into the defense, how well Knee.
• 44:55
  Speaker 7: And Jalyn Love work together. I'd be very surprised if
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: Kobe brand is starting for that team with a new.
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: Contract next year, which means you gotta re sign him
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: before free agency begins to March ninth. He's talked a
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: couple times about Rasis and how that's probably the most
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: maybe the easiest, their most exponditious tending free agent to
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: get done by the nature of his position and worth
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: to the team.
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: And then they still deeper on the offensive and defensive lines.
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: Anthony Bradford has been something of a week's spot of times,
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: and now he's coming to the end of his rookie
• 45:28
  Speaker 6: deal in a year, so they don't have enough defensive
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: line death, especially now that their big studs.
• 45:33
  Speaker 7: Are getting into their thirties. Jaron Reed'll be airing the
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: twelfth season if he wants to come back in christ
• 45:38
  Speaker 7: to say he does. Leutterd Williams will turn thirty three.
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: DeMarcus Lawrence in the second year of a three yeard
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: will turns thirty four.
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: They will draft and or sign.
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: A free agent defensive lineman to be the future beyond
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: twenty six to twenty seven.
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: And then I mentioned they got four picks.
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: I can really be shocked if they walk out of
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: it into the draft at the beginning of.
• 46:01
  Speaker 7: May with just four picks.
• 46:02
  Speaker 6: He's got the number thirty two and number sixty four
• 46:05
  Speaker 6: to number ninety six picks all at the bottom of
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: the first three rounds are being Super Bowl champ Those
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: are historically spots that you trade down into the next
• 46:14
  Speaker 6: round to get entice a team that wants to come.
• 46:17
  Speaker 7: Up and grab a guy that they're afraid someone else
• 46:19
  Speaker 7: will take. He can easily get a pick or.
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: Two extra out of that thirty second pick at the
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: end of the first round because he doesn't.
• 46:26
  Speaker 7: Have first round talent at thirty two on his board.
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: There's a lot of John Schneider patterns that are setting
• 46:33
  Speaker 6: up here, yep.
• 46:34
  Speaker 7: Take care of your own guys. Trade down, get more picks.
• 46:39
  Speaker 6: Reload with depth in draft picks on the offense and
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: the defensive lines in draft.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Run well, be safe. I'll let you focus on driving
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: here the rest of the way. I will just tell you,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: if you do smoke a cigarette, make sure you throw
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: it completely outside of the car. You don't want a
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: John Camp India and have it land in the back seat.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, that caused a lot of trouble, Greg, So
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: you know, be careful, be careful out there.
• 47:09
  Speaker 7: It's a different movie, but Orange Whips for everyone.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Orange Orange Whip O. Thanks, Greg be saying all right Tuesday,
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell, our Seahawks insider and Windy Bell. They're making
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: their way across the American heartland to get to Indianapolis
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: on time to cover the combine. I don't know how
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: fascinating a movie that would make a couple leaves a
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: romantic reunion in Boston to go to the NFL Combine
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: in Indianapolis. But boy, you add a snowstorm and race
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: against the clock. It's a little bit of smoking the
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: Bandit what we got going on here, except with weather.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just looking at all the videos
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: that Greg posted yesterday and then when he was like, yeah,
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: we're walking, and then yesterday I get I checked in.
• 48:00
  Speaker 8: I said, how's it going.
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: Well, we got a jeep, now we're driving, and we
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: got eleven hours, and I.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Just well, And then I will also just say this, like,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: if you do end up in a hotel together because
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: you can't get there in time, in this particular case,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: if one of you wakes up with your hand between
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: two pillows, just go with it.
• 48:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah, embrace it.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: It's romance, That's right. That's a different situation. Yeah, and
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: than the movies. Yeah, all right, well, yes, he's got
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: a lot to do. He's gonna try to get to
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Indianapolis on time to talk to John Schneider. It's very interesting, man,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: you become Super Bowl champs and suddenly people start paying
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: attention to you. You know, it's weird. Yeah, I mean
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks sort of snuck up on everyone outside of
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: Seattle this year, outside of the Division. I think the
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: forty nine ers and Rams, it didn't take them very
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: long into the season to respect the team that they
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: were playing. I think the sea Hawks, I think the
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: division opponents knew, but in terms of those whose that
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: write articles nationally. Yeah, once you get to the Super Bowl,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: they're like, oh wait, this team's actually pretty good.
• 49:07
  Speaker 8: Oh wait yeah, yeah happen.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: So the NFL network NFL dot com came up with
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: it's one hundred and one top free agents for this offseason,
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: and the Seahawks are all over it. I mean, Ken
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Walker's all We up to number ten. Yeah, I saw
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: that boy, Mafe's eleven, and Rashid Shahit is twelve. So
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: they're saying the Seahawks have three of the top twelve
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: free agents. And then you don't have to go too
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: much further down the list to find more Seahawks, which
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: they clustered in a strange way on the list Kobe
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Bryant thirty eight, Riek Wolland thirty ninth. So yeah, suddenly
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: you know this does happen. It's not just because the
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: NFL kind of was asleep at the wheel when it
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: came to evaluating the Seahawks. This does happen. Happens every year.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: Even NFL teams do it. It's not just writers and
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: talk show hosts. Even NFL teams. Oh wow, that guy
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl. I'm gonna pay him a little
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: bit more. Yeah, and so that's kind of what John
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: and Mike are up against a little bit here with
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: free agency. I think they are going to fight to
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: try to keep their guys. And the more I think
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: about it, I mean, I do think they're gonna part
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Walker and the Seahawks. But the more I think about it,
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: I think Walker and Bryant are the priorities. If I
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: can only keep two of the six or seven free
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: agents that we could leave, I think I'm gonna make
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: those two the priorities. Okay, go ahead and keep Walker.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Pay a little extra, make yourself uncomfortable. And I'd kind
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: of like to see Kobe Bryant. I mean, you're not
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: gonna be able to keep Bryant, Wooland and Job, But
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: of the three, I think i'd like Bryant, I think
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: more than any of them. And not because he's the
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: most talented. He's just the best football player of the group.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: All right. Coming up next on the program, we will
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: be joined by Olympian Kracking Ellie Sports Radio ninety three
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: point three kh A r F m oh, Well, good
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: morning to you. It is he Cracking Ticket Tuesday. Be
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: listening for your chance at a pair of cracking tickets
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: all hour long, every hour throughout the course of the
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: broadcast day. And finally we get back to cracking hockey
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: tomorrow night in Dallas. They'll be taking on the Stars.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: Of course, coming off of the Olympic experience. That's the
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: reason for the delay in the season. Three weeks off
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: for every team in the National Hockey League. Some teams
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: had a couple players in the Olympic process, some had several.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: The krackings certainly were affected by that. But now they
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: get ready to return to the ice resume the season
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: on Wednesday, and I think everybody is pumped about that.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is an opportunity, certainly for the National
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: Hockey League. I know it's not convenient to disrupt the
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: season and to put it on hold for three weeks,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: and they forced the players into playing a lot more
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: games in a shorter period of time in order to
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: create this opportunity for the NHL players, the best in
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: the world, to participate in the Olympics. But then I
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: think you've figured out why it was worth it, because
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: the buzz for hockey is certainly an electrifying one. As
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: we get ready to resume play on Wednesday. Ashley and
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: I just discussed it yesterday. I don't know, we've been
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: more excited to watch a Cracking game than we are
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: for tomorrow night as they get ready to take on
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: the Dallas Stars. And joining us now on the program
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: is Ellie Tolvenen, who won a bronze medal at the
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: Olympics for his team Team Finland, his country Finland uh,
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: and now gets ready to start and resume the season
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: with the Crack and Tomorrow Night. Ellie joins us here
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: on Chuck and Buck. Good morning, sir, Good morning, Hey
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: doing I'm great. How are you doing? That's the most
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: important thing. How are you feeling?
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: I'm doing great, I'm doing great.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. What was the Olympics experience like for you this year?
• 53:24
  Speaker 9: No?
• 53:25
  Speaker 7: It was cool, really cool.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: You know you dream off playing the Olympics your whole
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: whole childhood, and you know, I was being able to go.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: There and you know, get a bronze medal and what
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: could have been better?
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: And uh, you know, yeah, it's a sort of feeling,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: you know, be able to three percent Finland.
• 53:41
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: Of course the gold medal game was between the US
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: and Canada, and so obviously we were a little more
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: focused on that. I think you can understand, uh, Ellie, Uh,
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: but give us an idea of what the rivalry is
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: like between Finland and Sweden who met up in the
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: in the bronze mild. Do you have a huge rivalry
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: with that country, that team.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's pretty much the same as US Canada. Okay,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: you know all the battles that we've had and uh,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: you know it's uh, yeah, it's one hundred percent the
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: same as US Canada. We hate each other and you
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: know it show us on the ice to uh you
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: always want to be beat Sweden and you know it
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: was pretty sick to be able to speak Sweden and Olympics.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: What is definitively better about Finland than Sweden?
• 54:32
  Speaker 7: Everything?
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: Everything, everything, even the food, even the chocolate, even the pastries,
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: everything that.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Everything, hockey, people, food, everything, everything you can imagine.
• 54:48
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: The women are prettier, the men are more handsome. Is
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: that what you're telling me? Ellie Tolvin and joining us
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: right here on chucking back? Did you watch the gold
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: medal game at all? Where is that? As somebody that
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: didn't get there? You didn't want any part of it.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: I saw the overtime. Actually, we were just on a
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: plane back to the US when the game was on, so
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: we were able to catch the overtime on the plane,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: so didn't see the whole game, but I saw the
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: saw the game any goal.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, your bronze medal game was a blowout. That
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: was tight. I mean, man, what a what a game
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: it ended up being, and uh, for it to end
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: that way in overtime certainly a rush. How how much
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: do you think that the NHL uh is going to
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: benefit from the hype and the three weeks of build
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: up that the Olympics gave us, because I can tell
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: here in Seattle and throughout America that people are pretty
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: jacked to get to watch their local hockey team play
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: their next game.
• 55:50
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: I think it's it's gonna benefit a lot.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: You know, it's been twelve years since Best on Best
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: hockey in the Olympics, and I think it showed too.
• 55:58
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: You know, all these games, Uh, how good, how physical,
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: how how high temple the games were. So I think
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: it was a big thing for hockey. You know, get
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: the NHL players the Olympics and play for their countries
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: and you know it's uh, you always have the little
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: extra step and extra energy when you play for your country,
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: and I think you showed them how good the hockey was,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: and especially I I've only heard good things about that
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: final game and how how creative the hockey gaming was.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: Uh crack. And winger Ellie Tolbnan is with us right
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: here on Chucking Buck in the mornings here today. Uh So,
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: a lot of your teammates are well rested. I mean
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: they've been off for three weeks. Are you tired from
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: the Olympic experience as you get ready to rejoin your
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: team there in Dallas. Well, yeah, there's a little bit
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: of chaid luck for sure right now.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: But you know, I think it was one of those
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: experiences that you don't really get tired because you know
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: it's it's an once in a life of situation you
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: can play in the Olympics. So actually feeling pretty pretty
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: good right now. And now you know, just to get
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: over to jad Lock and I think.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: We will be going to go. If any of your
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: teammates that weren't in the Olympics complain about being tired,
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: what will you do to them?
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: We'll see me and Copper will figure something out as
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: they if they go to say they're tired.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, three weeks. What do you think they did for
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: three weeks?
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Probably had some fun, Yeah, I got I got some
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: clips them playing golf and you know into and that's
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: cool too. But I'll take the Olympics every day.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: There you go, there you go. Ellie Tolvenan is with us,
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: all right. So the team had a pretty good is
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: off to a pretty good start this season. More than
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: a start. I mean, you're over halfway through the regular season.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: You're in playoff position right now. So as you get
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: ready to play again tomorrow night, what's it going to take,
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: Ellie to get there? To be in the playoffs at
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: the end of the year. What do the Kraken need
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: to do?
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: You know, just play like we did before the break.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: You know, I think everybody was bought in the system.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: Everybody's playing their their asses off, so I think just
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: to keep the same thing going.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: You know, we've been We've been doing pretty good job
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: this year playing as a ford line forward line team,
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: and I think that's where we have to keep keep
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: building and doing the doing the rest of the twenty
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: five games, so we.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: Have left, How do you explain the wild inconsistencies this year,
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: you guys will go on a hot streak and then
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: you'll go on a cold streak and then you get
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: hot again. Why has that occurred? And why will you
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: play more consistently the rest of the way. Yeah, I
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: I think there's been parts parts of the season. Like
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: you said, it's been inconsistent. But I feel like we
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: always played well pretty well, so you know, the results
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: it hasn't been there. I think the our game has
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: been actually pretty good through throughout the whole year, but
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: just the results haven't been probably the best, you know,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: right before the Christmas, But I feel like right right
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: now and since the Christmas, I feel like as a team,
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: I felt like we took big steps forward and you know,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: everybody's feeling more comfortable, you know with everything.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: Are the Americans a little arrogant as you rejoined them
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: now on the team?
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen much of many been ears yet. I
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: think he's the He's probably the biggest guy who's gonna
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: say something. Right, We'll see, We'll see what he's gonna say.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got something in store for him if he
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: gets a little too carried away. Yes, are there any
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: more any of them Swedes on the Dallas Stars that
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: you still have a bone to pick with.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think there's any swedes at at least
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: you don't have to deal with them anymore.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, that inferior a lot. Yeah exactly. All right. Well, Ellie, hey,
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: thanks for joining us, man, we appreciate it. Have a
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: great rest of the season and and hopefully we got
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: a playoff year here with the Kraken perfect. Thanks for
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: having me, all right, Ellie Tolvin and joining us right
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: here on Chuck and Buck in the morning. So, yes,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: he's on the by the way team Tentacle, the Two Tentacles.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: He's on my fantasy team. I like him, and I
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: do too, like to see a few more goals out
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: of you, because you might have to carry my team.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 8: His name is Ellie Gold.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get that done, Bud.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 8: I like that, he said, as I do too. The
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 8: hockey players don't. They're usually very prim and proper.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: I like that, he admitted. They hate he hates.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 8: Sweet Everything is better in Finland. That was my favorite.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 8: What's better?
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: What is definitively better about Finland than Sweet Everything?
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: And I have not heard good things about Finnish food
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: and yet everything everything. Yeah, I loved it. Men are
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: more handsome.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 8: Yep, women are prettier, food is better.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: Count Well, we appreciate him coming on with us. Yes,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: And I think people are jacked. I think that, Uh,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: you know, you watch if you got up and watched
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: that game on Sunday and you realized, you know, moments
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: afterwards that Okay, NHL resumes after three weeks off on Wednesday.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: Certainly there was a little bit of fire in my
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: gut for this game tomorrow, more so than their normally
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: would be.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I was trying to figure out how many
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: games were left. When he said twenty five, I was like,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: oh gosh, is that it is.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 8: It's gonna fly by.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: For sure. But the NHL strategy worked out. I don't
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: know if baseball, I don't know if I'm a big
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: fan of baseball being in the Olympics again, but I
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: think that's I mean, that's going to happen. I don't know.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: Maybe the nby the basketball thing has run its course.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I mean, I just.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 8: Can't get because we're so good. It's like you don't
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 8: have the excitement.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and also the rival and also not everybody wants
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: to do it, and then I understand why they don't
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: want to do it, because if they don't win, then
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: their losers, and if they do win, it was expected.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: I think the basketball players are really put in a
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: tough position by the American sports fan, But it makes
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: so much sense for hockey to do it and man
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: introduce patriotism into this sport and just watch it go
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: to a whole new level. That Four Nations thing was
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: not supposed to get as ugly as it got. It
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: was not supposed to get as vicious and violent as
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: it got. And don't make any mistake about it, the
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: success of the four Nations and the and the the
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: you know, the ill feelings that were created between Canada
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: and the US at the end of that match, has
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: spilled over into making this Olympic thing. I mean, if
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: it didn't end up being US Canada in the gold
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: medal game, I don't think it was just US and
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: Canadians that were going to be disappointed with that. I
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: think everybody in the globe wanted to see this rematch again.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: And yes, Sweden and Finland have their own rivalry, but
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: but I think everybody was kind of looking forward to
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: it if you weren't from Finland and Sweden. Yeah, I
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: think you were kind of looking forward to US Canada
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: to decide it, and then we got treated to an
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: outstanding game. All right, So tomorrow night, five o'clock right
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  Speaker 2: here at Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ R
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• 1:03:11
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• 1:03:14
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  Speaker 2: Coming up next, we started this yesterday. What I learned
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  Speaker 2: a minute, ever fits you, We'll be joining us right
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  Speaker 2: here on chucking back in the mornings. Do you want
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  Speaker 2: to let you know, by the way, I don't know
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• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: fans out there. Not sure. Maybe I'll give her a
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: try though maybe you shouldn't judge a cover, you know,
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  Speaker 2: but I know it happened. I know there are a
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  Speaker 2: lot of other Taylor Dane fans out there. So yeah,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: if you want to tell it to my art.
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  Speaker 8: Or tell me I'm the only one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, have love lead you back. She's your Girl, Thursday,
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  Speaker 8: That's this Thursday.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, two days from now.
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  Speaker 8: That would be really fun.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: So going out there and check out Taylor Dane.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 8: And I bet she still has that great voice. I
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 8: bet nothing has changed.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: Well, I think some things have changed.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 7: Well.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: I think she's still got big hair, and I think
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: she's still got a great voice.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 8: Yeah, there's other things that time just takes away from.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Mm well, and also that surgeon can add to you.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, all of those things.
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  Speaker 2: So it might be a little bit of that going on.
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  Speaker 8: But I saw Eddie money when he was however old,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 8: he was it and it was well worth it.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: What what is your favorite Tailor Dane song?
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  Speaker 9: Is it?
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  Speaker 2: Tell it to my heart and not the slower.
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  Speaker 8: I feel the night explode.
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  Speaker 2: When we're together, emotions overload in the heat of.
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  Speaker 8: Pleasure me, I'm yours.
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  Speaker 2: And not the slower. Love will lead you back someday.
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  Speaker 2: I just know it.
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  Speaker 4: It's a great one and love does always lead you back.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: But something about the beat and tell it.
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  Speaker 8: To my heart. It tells me I'm the only one.
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  Speaker 2: She got a lot of hits.
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  Speaker 4: She's great, a really fun show it Where is it
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: out again?
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  Speaker 2: Chuck Resort Casino, the Orca Ballroom. I mean she got
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: a little overshadowed by Madonnald. Let's face it. Back in
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: the day, it was.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 8: Hard to beat the material girl at the time.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: And like Paul Abdul, but she cranked out a lot
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: of hits. I know somebody that probably had a Taylor
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: Dane poster in his room in Detroit, Michigan. Everett fits
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: you right next to a Stevie Iiserman post. There was
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: Taylor Dane telling Everett fits you love will lead you back.
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  Speaker 2: He joins us. Now the voice of your Seattle crack
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  Speaker 2: and good morning, sir.
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  Speaker 9: I love that song. A million guesses would have never
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  Speaker 9: I could never have told you, so.
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  Speaker 7: I have no idea, no idea.
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  Speaker 9: I heard I heard the ad to play a couple
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 9: of weeks ago, and I was like, oh, to the Dan,
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  Speaker 9: it's okay. You never would have guessed it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, That's one of my favorite parts about music,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: because I didn't like grow up like a music fan.
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  Speaker 2: So I kind of had to learn it all as
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: an adult. I had to, you know, I started like
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: thirty and then gave myself like a crash. Course. I
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: was the time you just listen to it in the background,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: and then I really got into it. But one of
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: my favorite parts about having that experience is there will
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: be an artist and you're like, I didn't know they
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: sang that. They sing that too. Yeah, that's a Taylor
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: Dane experience. So if you go see her in the show,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: you'll be like, I didn't know she's saying, well, I've
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: heard of that song. You'll have about twelve of those
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: before this.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 8: Show, and then you'll be.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: All right, all right, Well, let's talk some hockey. How
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: pumped are you to resume the season tomorrow, mister fits you.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 9: I'm excited. I'm very excited. I think the team is excited.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 9: I think that I was talking to Evince Done before
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 9: we left the other day, and you know, I asked
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 9: him about the break and then I said do we
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 9: like the break or did we want to keep on going?
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 9: And he goes, obviously, you know, if you're going to
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 9: give me an education, I'm not going to say no,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 9: but we were playing pretty well before the break, and
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 9: sometimes it can be hard to get that momentum back. So,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 9: you know, I think this team is excited. I know
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 9: I'm excited. I know our fan base is excited to
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 9: get going again. But I do think that with the
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 9: crack and the big thing is going to be can
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 9: they resume and continue that forward motion that they had.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 9: I mean, they won six of eight going into the break.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 9: They're five points out of first right now, there are
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 9: three points out of going golfing, So it is it's
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 9: it's a very tight race right now for Seattle.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, and we're not gonna know how people are
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: going to react to this, but you drop three games
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: and not everybody got as I mean, there were a
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: lot of teams that had a lot of players in
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: the Olympic process. Yeah, So I mean, is it safe
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: to say that whoever does manage it well, who comes
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: out strong starting tomorrow. I mean, in this tight, clustered
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: race is probably gonna either it's gonna make or break
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: their playoff season. Is just how they didn't manage or
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: how they do bounce back from having not played for
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: three weeks.
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  Speaker 9: I think I think that's good. That's it. That that
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 9: is absolutely bang on. And if you're Seattle, I think
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 9: I'll go further and even say that you've got a
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 9: bit of an advantage on other teams because the krack
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 9: Nd only sent four players over to the Olympics. You
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 9: know Coppocco and Ellie Tolan and who joined the team
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 9: here in Dallas. They won bronze for Finland, Philip Grubauer
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 9: for Germany and then Oscar Fisker Motard for Denmark. The
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 9: Kracket only had four guys over there, whereas Dallas they
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 9: had six or seven guys going over to the Olympics.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 9: They're gonna be out a few of those guys. Jay
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 9: Ottinger played for Team USA. He's not gonna play tomorrow.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 9: Miko Rantman, who you know is one they're leading goal scorers,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 9: he got hurt over in the Itelligals. He's not gonna
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 9: play for a couple of games. Won't pay Hints who
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 9: played for Team Finland with Ellie Tolvenan and Coppocacko. He
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 9: got sick. He probably won't play tomorrow for Dallas. And
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 9: then you go up and down the division. You know,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 9: Kevin Fialla breaks his leg basically for the Kings. He's
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 9: out for the year. Mikyle Grandlin for the Ducks, one
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 9: of their leading scorers and one of their leaders, he's
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 9: out for some happy time as well. So I mean,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 9: if you're Seattle, obviously you're never gonna root for anyone
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 9: to get injured. But the Kraken are in a pretty
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 9: good position to take advantage of a couple of teams
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 9: that lost some pretty big players over the Olympic break,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 9: So you're right. I mean, it's gonna be whoever manages it.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 9: And I think another big thing that a lot of
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 9: folks aren't taking into account is I mean, if you're
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 9: Team Canada, let's say you're Conor McDavid for Edmonson, you're
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 9: Nathan McKinnon for the Colorado Avalanche. That's a wild emotional
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 9: swing going from losing arguably the biggest game of your
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 9: life to now having to come back and be thrown
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 9: into the thick of a playoff race. So there's gonna
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 9: be a lot of guys around the league who either
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 9: won or they lost, and now they're gonna have to
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 9: refocus those emotions and oh, we've got games to play.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 9: Oh we've got a playoff race to jump back into.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 9: So I do think that Seattle may be able to
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 9: capitalize and catch it teams off guard that way.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: We had e Eli on an hour ago, your guy
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: Tolan was on the radio show. I guess I should
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: have just assumed this, but he talked about how Finland
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: and Sweden hate each other. Uh so, how how are
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: Adam Larson and then Coppo Cockgo and Ellie Tolvenan gonna
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: interact when they see each other again?
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 9: Hey, they're they're teammates. So it's, uh, it's all love here,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 9: But no, it's people love to talk about USA versus Canada,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 9: but that that Finland Sweden rivalry that's about as heated
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 9: as you did again, And it's funny. I was talking
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 9: to a friend of mine and in hockey the other
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 9: day and I asked him that question. You know, I said,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 9: over here in North America, we care about the Stanley Cup.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 9: You know, I think if you don't line up twenty Canadians, Minnesotans,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 9: people from Massachusetts, Michigan, folks from hockey hotbeds, and you
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 9: said you can only pick one gold medal or a
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 9: Stanley Cup, what would you pick? And I think he
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 9: was like, eighty ninety percent are going to pick the
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 9: Stanley Cup because that's that's what we've been training for
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 9: over in Europe. I mean, it's it's World Championships, it's
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 9: the Olympics, it's the World Juniors, it's all that international
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 9: play that folks have been watching their entire lives. You know.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 9: A couple of years ago, I think it was a
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 9: lot Via they won a bronze medal in the World Championships,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 9: which are played in May. That was their first ever
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 9: international hockey medal ever, and the city shut down for
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 9: a week. I mean, the bars ran dry because Lotvia
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 9: was celebrating their bronze medal. That that is how serious
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 9: they take it over there. So we talk about USA
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 9: and Canada and you know Washington, Oregon, Austin Yankees, right,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 9: but over there that Finland Sweden rivalry that is about
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 9: as nasty as you're gonna find, you know, from from
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 9: an international competition standpoint.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he said that Sweden doesn't do one thing better
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: than Finland, not one. Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
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  Speaker 9: My my favorite thing about the Olympics. They have those
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 9: videos where I think it was it was Finland, you know,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 9: they they talked to the team and they said, say
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 9: one thing nice about about Sweden, and all the guys
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 9: can't do it. Got nothing. One of my teammates, you know,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 9: plays for them, but it's nothing. They can't I can't
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 9: do it. They got nothing.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: That's great. Evert Fitzi the voice of the Krack and
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: joins us every week at this time. They resume action
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: tomorrow in Dallas against the Stars. Who's gonna win, Who's
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: gonna be the goaltender tomorrow?
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 9: It would not surprise me. I think if Joey Decord
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 9: would go because it's a back to back, so you're
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 9: gonna see both Decord and Grubauer play. You know. I
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 9: think with Grubauer going over to the Olympics, he didn't
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 9: get the vacation and the time off. So I do
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 9: think that they're going to try to see if they
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 9: can get him a day or two off here and
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 9: there between now and you know, middle of middle of March,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 9: Grubauer joined the team. What's today Tuesday? Join the team Saturday.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 9: I believe he came back and joined Seattle for practice Saturday.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 9: I'm then it flew with the team yesterday here, so
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 9: he did get a couple of days after the exit,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 9: but I think it'll be Joey tomorrow and then we'll
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 9: back to our regularly scheduled programming.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: All right. We got to get your take though, on
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: the US Canadian game, the gold medal going to the
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: US and and then on the back side of it,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: how that might impact the rest of the NHL season
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: in terms of eyeballs on the product.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 9: You know what, this sounds very corny, This sounds very
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 9: very cheesy. But as I'm watching that that game the
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 9: other night, and as I'm watching Connor Hellibuck make forty
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 9: one saves and Jack Hughes score that goal, and you
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 9: know the rivalry that is USA Canada, my first thought was,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 9: this is my generations. This will be my kids generations miracle.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 9: That is our miracle on ice when when we beat
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 9: the Canadians. Hockey in the US is continuing to grow.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 9: That game did so much for the game of hockey
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 9: on the whole. I read an article the other day
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 9: that said, for the first time ever, you ate under eight,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 9: hockey participation in the US has reached one hundred thousand.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 9: So you've got over one hundred thousand kids under the
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 9: age of eight now being enrolled in Hockey programs, Learn
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 9: to Skate programs, Official USA Hockey program. So that's going
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 9: to be huge. But I think going down the rest
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 9: of the season with a league that is as tight
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 9: as it is with a Kraken five points out of first,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 9: three points out of missing the playoffs, right, it's a
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 9: very tight race. I think more teams in the NHL
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 9: are in that race than out of that race. They
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 9: are going to be so many more fans. These buildings.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 9: The next twenty six games are going to be packed
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 9: because of what they saw over in Italy. The track
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 9: can have games against Colorado, Edmonton, the Panthers, and the
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 9: Kachuck Brothers. Ottawa comes in here again as well. So
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 9: for Seattle, I mean, the fan base is already one
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 9: of the strongest bases that I've seen in our league,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 9: and now you can just travel around the league, You're
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 9: going to start seeing a lot more people being interested
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 9: in hockey because of that tournament.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: Ever fits you whe us here on Chuck and Buck,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: good to hear you. Did you miss Al?
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 9: I did I miss Al? Actually myself Al and Mike
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 9: went to the Silver Tips and the Birds game on
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 9: Saturday nine Nothing when for the for the Tips over
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 9: the tea birds. You talk about a rivalry, that game
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 9: was That game was over before it even started. So
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 9: I saw Al on Saturday, and then we went to
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 9: dinner last night and my wife called me and she goes,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 9: I know you just saw him the other day, but
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 9: did you miss him? You missed him? Didn't you like it?
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 7: Did?
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 9: I really missed him? Our lovely romantic steak dinner. We
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 9: always always find one steak dinner per road trip. We'll
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 9: share a bourbon, we'll share a bottle of wine and
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 9: rehash all the hockey stuff. But I missed him. Happy
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 9: to have him back.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: There A man, that man Ashley and I want to
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: come on and Al Everett, Yeah, how did we romantic dinner?
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah that sounds great.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 9: Hey, listen you, I will say this, I know you
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 9: love Calgary. Next season is the last year for the
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 9: Saddle film. They're going to tear it down move into
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 9: a new building up next year. So we got to
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 9: get the Chuck and Bucks show on the road for
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 9: a day. When the crack you go to Calgary, we
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 9: gotta do a listitor trip and then Al and I
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 9: will take you and Ashley and Buy and the listener
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 9: will take you guys to Hives Steakhouse and we'll have
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 9: we'll have a great time.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna wan up you here because you might
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: see me this year. I don't know if I can
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: put a group thing together or a listener thing together,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: but I'm trying to get there desperately. You can go
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: test it out, so you might see me this year.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: Is there any games against Calgary left? Do we have
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: any games.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 7: Against Calgary at home?
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 9: Unfortunately?
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 7: Oh, we'll have to.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 8: Watch it in Calgary when they're here playing here.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: I'll come there just for the steak dinner. Yeah, and
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: the conversation with you.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 9: And I'm in Edmonton. You have a game in uh, Vancouver.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 9: We've got Minnesota Winnipeg back to back, and then we
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 9: have that long road tip at the end of the month. Columbus, Nashville, Florida, Tampa, Buffalo.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah you do. Yeah, maybe it's Vancouver. Maybe
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: March fourteenth, all surprise you.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 9: Let's do it.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure we can find a steakhouse
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: in Vancouver.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 8: I think they probably have several great steakhouse.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 9: The Great Steakhouse to Vancouver and then we'll go to
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 9: the Roxy.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 8: You should make sure you wear USA gear when you go.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: I will, and I'll rub it in their faces. Well,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: and I'll rub it in Al's face too, all right, man, Well,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: we can't wait to see you guys. Hear you, guys
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: back together tomorrow. It's been too long, So cracking hockey
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: tomorrow night with the Everett and Al Show. Thanks man,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: we appreciate you.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 9: Hey, Chucky Ashy, thanks for the time, guys.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: Speculator ever fits you?
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 7: All right?
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: Joe coming up next. He said something in that conversation
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: that I want to discuss about the Olympics and how
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: we do treat it versus our favorite professional teams. I
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: want to get into that next. Sports Radio ninety three
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: point three k A r F.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: M A right nine o'clock hour and Ashley with you.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: No Bucky Jacobson here today or throughout the week? Did
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: you smell the thing to smell? Yeah, like like middle
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: of like two segments ago. I'm like, what does that smell?
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 8: Did you discover what it was?
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: No? I still haven't discovered what it was bad, but
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: I think it was food. But it smelled like post food, like.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: Post food, post post food, like it was food that
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: is no longer edible.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: Once food, but the rest.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 8: And then you ate it. Yeah, body did its job.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but not south backup. I didn't want to like
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: just blurt it out there, but yeah, smell like puke.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 8: It's not great.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: You didn't smell that.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 8: No, I did not.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: I smelled that. And I'm like, I'm I'm sitting here
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: like in the middle of the segment. Where is that coming?
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 8: You smelled it in there? Yeah, Oh, that's got to
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 8: be a strong smell.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: I'm like, did I step in something? I'm checking my
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: shoes in the middle of the ever it fits you.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 8: Interview barf in the garbage.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: Maybe I walked through something. I don't know. Yeah, but
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: it turns out somebody was making some sort of food,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: and I can't imagine that it was all that delicious.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 8: That is not a good endorsement. No food, you do new.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: Uh. You don't see many store fronts promoting the aroma
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: of regurgitation.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 8: No, they're not, like, Hey, come on, in all the vomit,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 8: you can handle it.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: You don't see Glade make that air freshener.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 8: Thank goodness. I'd probably have to buy it just to
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 8: see what it smelled like.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: Once I still kind of smell it though, really you
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: don't smell it? Yeah, did you smell?
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 8: Could you tell? I was really trying to give it
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 8: a good.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, it's good. It was wolf like, must make
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: me choke.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 8: No, I cannot smell it at all.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, maybe it's just in my head. I'm not
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: sure anyone. The air is clear now. It is Chuck.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: It is but Chuck and Ash. Bucky is not here,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: and it's a good thing he's not here because he's
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: going to disagree with what myself and Cal Raleigh are
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: saying about the new challenge system in Major League Baseball.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: So I am on the side with Cal, and my
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: opinion came first Cal. But during our spring training coverage,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: we did ask Cal about how they're going to handle
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: it going forward, and I believe he started in discussing it,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: talking about what it's going to be like from a
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: hitters standpoint. Here's Cal Raleigh and his belief on how
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: the new challenge system, the ball strike challenge system in
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: baseball that will be the talk of the sport for
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: a portion of the beginning of the year. Here's him
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: talking about what he expects.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 10: My first initial thoughts coming off with last year, you know, no,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 10: like making the obvious ones, like all right, that's definitely
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 10: strike challenge it. And then the thing you also just
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 10: gotta be smart, like you can't be taking risks and
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 10: the first inning with nobody on base and uh, you
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 10: know a one o counts that's completely different than seventh
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 10: inning bases loaded, you know, three two count That's what
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 10: I'm saying. Yeah, it's completely different. So I think it's
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 10: all just context. It's game awareness, game situation, understanding that
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 10: trying to save them towards the end.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 10: I've heard other teams talk about, oh, you need it's
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 10: more valuable if you use it early on. You don't
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 10: want to be left with them. It's just that's the
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 10: analytics part of it. And I just don't know if
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 10: I agree with that, but you know, we'll see how
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 10: it plays out. You know, I trust our guys. You know,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 10: I trust our guys in the box, and you know,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 10: to me, it's just like, if it's egregious, challenge it,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 10: if it's borderline and it's not that important part of
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 10: the game, then you know it is.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: What it is.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 10: You gotta you gotta take one for the team. You
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 10: gotta be a good, good team player. So that's kind
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 10: of how I'm gonna approach it.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it off from the picture catcher standpoint, though.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I mean, you know, I don't know.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: Some I've heard are you gonna get angry if WU
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: challenges and is wrong when you didn't want to challenge.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 10: I don't know.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 7: So I've heard.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 10: I've heard different things. People are like, you know, we
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 10: don't let our pictures challenge. Other people are like, you know,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 10: you know, if you want a challenge, you can. To me,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 10: it's just about emotion and ego. You can't let emotion.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 10: You can't let ego get in the way just because
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 10: you want to strike out or just because you thought
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 10: it was a strike. But in reality, you know you're
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 10: challenging and it's the fourth inning. It's not an important moment.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 10: You just it's an ego because you want to strike out.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 10: It's just like it's just an understanding situation and being
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 10: very very certain to me, especially early on in the game,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 10: So you know, I won't say anything to get it right.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: Cal Rawley, that was from last week talking about the
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: challenge system. I'm with him on this. Bucky doesn't feel
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: this way. Really, I do believe you're going to have
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: to set parameters now. Maybe because it's brand new, we'll
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: work up to setting those parameters. Maybe we won't have
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: parameters at the beginning.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 8: You'll have to see what happens, see what about.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: Get the information, and then react accordingly. But Cal's opinion
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: on it is and they were talking about it yesterday
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: during the Dodgers broadcast of the spring training game, and
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: Cal's opinion of it is that we need to save
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: them like for later in the game or certainly for
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: situational baseball. And that's where I'm at. I mean, I
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: don't want to speak for a bucket, but we've had
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: several different conversations. My impression of it is that he's
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: more of anybody can challenge, but you better be right
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: sort of thing. I don't feel that way. I feel
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: at first. First it has to start with situationally yesterday, Well,
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: we'll get to you yesterday. At a moment, I don't
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: want anybody challenging with the bases empty, two outs down,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: oh one. I don't care if the umpire screwed it
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: up or not. I don't want anybody challenging because odds
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: are later in the game, We're going to have a
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: situation where it's second and third, two outs ahead, you know,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: three to two count or two to two count, and
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: we are going to need it at that moment. And
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: so I think it's situational at least parameters have to
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: be set situationally when you're at the plate. Just talking
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: about at the plate at first, I actually think Ashley
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: and this is truly. I know I'm not taking them
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: out of context for this where Bucky and I disagree.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: I think by the as it evolves, there are only
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: going to be a certain number of players are going
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: to be even allowed to challenge. Now, there will be
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: situations where that was a ball, it walked in a
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: run and kept the rally going. Yes, than anybody and
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: use it. But I do believe it will be defined
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: as to win and where and who is going to
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: be allowed to challenge. Because if I burned two calls
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: early because Andrew Kissner is sure those are balls and strikes,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: and then I'm in the seventh inning and I got
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: bases loaded and they blew a call with col at
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: the plate and I can't challenge it. I mean, to me,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: that's malpractice of a brand new system. So I do
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: believe I'm with cal on this. I think there's going
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: to be strategy involved with this usage of this. It's
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: not just as easy as that's a wrong call and
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: I want it challenged. Right, that can't happen, And I
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: don't think that that can happen even early in the season.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: I don't need information to know that. That's not how
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: we are going to use our too precious challenges this year.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 4: Right, you can let people have some fun, you know,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 4: like they were just or Jerry was joking that, you know,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: Ran Rosearina can't challenge because he's been doing it and
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 4: he's getting him wrong. Early on, Oh, test it out,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 4: see how they do. But once that's once the season starts,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 4: and unless it's I think the only situation early in
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 4: the game that you should be using it is if
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 4: in the first or second inning you've got the bases
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: loaded and you know getting a walk is going to
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 4: bring in a run because you'd want that run and
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: then and then at that point that's worth the risk.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 4: If you get it wrong, you get it wrong, but
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 4: at least you were using it in the situation that
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 4: was going to be advantageous to you.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 8: I mean or if you.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: Get a strike and you struck out but the calls
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: wrong in the bases, yeah, I'm.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 4: Saying, and then you get and so now you get
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: the walk, you get the run, yes, or.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: Either way, like even if if you can just stay
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: at the plate with the bases.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 8: Looks oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 4: And so I just think it's it makes me nervous
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 4: to think the idea that like, well we can anyone
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 4: can challenge it at any given time, because as much
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 4: as I realize, you know, if they're not like timeouts,
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 4: you're not going to take them with you to the
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 4: next game.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 8: So then that since they are.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 4: But you don't need to burn them early if you
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 4: use it. If you go through a whole game and
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 4: you never used one, okay, then you never never used one.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 4: That's okay, that's not poor clock management. You know, that's
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 4: not poor game management. You should make sure though, that
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: you always have at least one when you're went into
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 4: the eighth and ninth inning of a game, especially a
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 4: close game.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I mean, just to clarify, for Bucky's
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: point of view, he's not saying anybody should be able
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: to challenge at anytime. That's not what he has said. Okay,
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: but I do believe he's not like Cal told us,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: like it needs to be saved for your big run producers.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you're the let's just take it away
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: from the Mariners. If you're the Yankees and you've got
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: your nine hole hitter using a challenge in the second
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: inning with a runner at first, what do you not
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: realize ninety nine is on our team. Yeah, and we
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: might need that for him later on in the game.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, there is a theory that you just use
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: them when it's right, when it's right to use them.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's the way that it should be
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: done or will be done when by the time this
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: thing's done evolving, I think there will be specific times
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: to use it. Yes and no. And I don't know
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: how you're going to keep it because it's a really
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: quick reaction touch of the head. That's why Jerry said
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: Randy Rose Arena doesn't get the challenge, because they're probably
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: going to have to tell people you don't even get
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: the right to challenge because you're not good at it
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: or you're not as good enough hitter. And so let's
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: get to what happened yesterday. Andrew Kissner's catching yesterday. Our
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: backup catcher might not even be our backup catcher. We'll see,
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: it's going to be a battle between him and guarb
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: it looks like and he challenged three calls in the
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: first three innings, two behind the plate and one while
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: he was at the plate. Andrew Kissner right catch it. Well,
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: he was right on the two where he was behind
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: the plate. So my thinking was, all right, this is
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: his He's only going to play like three or four innings.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: It's spring training, and so he needs to practice. So
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: my guess is they probably allowed him the opportunity to
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: practice that see, and he was two for two. He
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: was two for two, and he's probably going to be
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: pretty good at it. Like I've said all off season,
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: he is more of a classic backup catcher type if
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: they end up going with him versus Scarver, and so yeah,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: I think he needs the practice, so I'm not going
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: to look too much into it. But then in the
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: third inning he was at the plate and he challenged.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: He challenged again, and this time he was wrong. And
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: here's my reaction right now to that. I don't need
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: any more evidence. Andrew Kissner never gets the challenge. Ever,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: there is an exception if it produces a run, or
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: if there's two outs in the bases loaded and you
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: struck out and you challenge it and it gives you
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: another chance at the plate to try to drive it.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: There are certainly exceptions, But Andrew Kissner in the third
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: inning with nobody on base, never ever, ever gets to
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: challenge a ball or strike call for the potential of
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: burning one that could be more effective later in the
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: game and a better situation with a better hitter. That's
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: not why you're here, Bud. You are here to back
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: up cal Raley. You are here to receive. And so
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: he's just not a good enough hitter to do that.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: And if, oh my gosh, if he challenges one and
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: is wrong and he burns one, oh you're paying a fine.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah at that point. So look, I know that there
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: will be a process that Dan and Jerry and Justin
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: with Cal's involvement, they're gonna work through. But I really
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: think that by the end of this first season, cal
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: Raley will be the only person that will challenge balls
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: and strikes calls when they's behind the plate. I don't
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: think they're gonna get the pictures. Yeah, I think George
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: is too emotional, and if Kissner's good at it, then
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: he will be the only one.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 8: And Bryce said he's not good at it.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, by the end of the year, I think it
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: will be the catcher's sole responsibility on this team. Yeah,
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: not everybody's gonna have the same philosophy, but on this team,
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: it'll be the catcher's sole responsibility to challenge, while on
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: defense all balls and strikes calls. I think the right
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: of the pitcher will be totally ripped from their grasp.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: And then from a hitting standpoint, Yes, early on, you're
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: gonna get people the benefit of the doubt, you're gonna
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: test the waters, you're gonna dip your toe in, all
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: of that sort of thing. But by the end of
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: the year, when it really counts, I think they will
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: have to developed a strategy of win and who. I
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: think that's very important. Who's going to be able to challenge.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: I don't think Bucky feels that way, and I think
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: that's the baseball player in him. What if I'm not
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: one of those guys?
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 8: What my challenges should be just as good as everybody.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: Else, Right, my challenge should be just as valuable, should
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: have been just as valuable as Edgar's or whatever the
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: case may be. I don't believe that. I don't think
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: this is just a you know, everybody's fair and equal
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: because they're not so to me it And so for
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: Cal to say that it's nice to have Cal on
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: my side in an argument against Bucky, because he never
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: wants to disagree with Cal, but with KL on my side,
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: he's he's already saying it. We haven't even played a
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: major league game with the system in place, and here's
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: cal Rawley already saying, No, we can't just challenge when
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: we want it when they're wrong. We have to challenge
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: when it might benefit us the most. And so that's
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: what I think will be developed by year's end. Uh
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: and Kyle's gonna benefit greatly because I want him to
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: have one hundred percent of the calls when they're on defense.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: And then at the plate, I want a challenge kept
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: in the back pocket in every game for situation, plus
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: the person standing at the plate taking that into account.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: And that could certainly be him, that could be Julio,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: that could be I mean, that could be Donovan in
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: the situation. But I'll tell you it's it's it's not
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: going to be you know, Rob Refschneider against a right
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: hander in the third, that's when it's not going to
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: be that. So we'll see how it unfolds. I'm fascinated
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: by it. But certainly what I saw from Kisner I'm
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: hoping is practice yesterday. And I've already seen enough information
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: to say Andrew Kisner does not get the challenge for
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: the rest of the year when he's a hitter. Yeah,
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: I just want it to be known. If he does
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: it again, he's cut.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 8: That's fair. And if they get what two challenges. But
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 8: if you get it right.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: You keep getting, Yeah, you get when once you get
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: too wrong, you're done. Got it? Yeah, And there were
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: a lot there were a lot of challenges in that
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: game yesterday. So I do believe that there is an
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: element of people are practicing it.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 9: Yes.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 4: Right now, right now is the time to overuse it
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 4: and find out, Okay, what really you can should and
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 4: shouldn't be challenging.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: And everybody should have the right to do that now.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: Kisner burning three in the first three innings a little
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: interesting enough. You're really practicing hard, yea, Andrew at this,
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: But I I just am of the opinion that by
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: the end of the season there will be a completely
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: different strategy of how to use them. Then there will
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: be right now, because everybody that we asked about, I mean,
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: Jerry said, everybody but Randy and then Dan Wilson. We'll
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: have to see as the season goes But it kind
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: of feels like they're going to give people the benefit
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: of the doubt at the beginning of the year as
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: to how to use them. I think that will be
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: ripped from their clutches at some point during the season,
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: and my guess is sooner than later. Yeah, because I'm
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: with cal I think all the decisions have to be
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: based on situation, and I do believe most of the
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: challenges need to be based on situation plus hitter.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 4: Well, and as the season goes on and your games
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 4: become more and more important, right, You're trying to buy
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 4: for your playoff positioning and things like that. The last
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 4: thing you want is to have burned challenges early that
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 4: can make a difference in a game, that makes a
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 4: difference in your standings, that can send you to the playoffs.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 8: Mm hm no, no, thank you.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well, everybody's going to treat it differently and
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: that's the fascinating aspect of this. How teams are going
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: to approach this. But you can tell, you can tell
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: just based off of our conversations, and we asked nearly
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: everybody about it that we interviewed because it's such a
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: fascinating aspect of this twenty twenty six season and beyond.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: Almost everybody was kind of in a we'll see kind
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: of mode. But I do believe that sooner than later
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: they'll have a better grasp of how exactly we want
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: to utilize our challenges. It's gonna be fascinating, all right.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: Coming up next, the NFL combines underway this week, and yeah,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: the Pajama Party starts on Thursday, but let's face it,
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: the next two days, where all the executives are there,
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: we could have some NFL stories to pass along in
• 1:38:31
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• 1:38:35
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