Latest / The Morning Stoic: The Untold Lives Behind Stoicism / Ep. 2: Follow That Man
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- 0:00Yesterday we left Zeno sitting at a bookseller's stall in Athens.
- 0:06A stranger in a city that wasn't his, with time on his hands and no plan for what
- 0:12came next.
- 0:13Today, he reaches out and picks up a scroll.
- 0:18The year is somewhere around 312 or 311 BCE.
- 0:23Athens answers to Macedonian power now, and its old democracy has lost most of its
- 0:28swagger.
- 0:29But the city is still where the Mediterranean comes to buy ideas.
- 0:34Philosophers teach in the gymnasia and under the colonnades.
- 0:38And in the market district, the booksellers keep their wares for anyone with a few
- 0:43coins and a curious mind.
- 0:46I imagine the stall the way a morning traveler might see it.
- 0:50Rolls of papyrus leaning in baskets and slotted into shelves,
- 0:55their ends curling.
- 0:57A fine film of dust over everything, because Athens is dry and the street is busy.
- 1:03The faint smell of reed pens and old glue.
- 1:07And a bookseller who has seen a thousand idle browsers and can tell,
- 1:11within a minute, which ones are going to buy.
- 1:14One detail matters here.
- 1:16In the ancient world, reading was often something you did out loud,
- 1:21or at least under your breath.
- 1:22A scroll was not a quiet private thing the way a paperback is on a train.
- 1:28So a man reading at a stall was, in a small way, performing.
- 1:33His murmuring drew in whoever was standing nearby.
- 1:37That's worth remembering, because what happens next begins with a man reading,
- 1:42and someone else overhearing.
- 1:44Our source is Diogenes Laërtius, who wrote his Lives of the philosophers centuries
- 1:51after Zeno.
- 1:52We're reading him in the translation by C.
- 1:54D.
- 1:54Yonge, from Project Gutenberg.
- 1:57Diogenes tells us Zeno was about thirty years old, and then he gives us this.
- 2:03Quote.
- 2:03"And as he took up the second book of Xenophon's Memorabilia and began to read it,
- 2:10he was delighted with it, and asked where such men as were described in that book
- 2:15lived; and as Crates happened very seasonably to pass at the moment,
- 2:20the bookseller pointed him out, and said, 'Follow that man.'"
- 2:25End quote.
- 2:26That's the whole scene.
- 2:28A scroll, a question, a man walking past, and four words.
- 2:35Let's look at what Zeno was holding.
- 2:37Xenophon's Memorabilia is a collection of memories of Socrates,
- 2:42written by a man who had known him.
- 2:45And it is not the Socrates you may have met in Plato, the one who soars into
- 2:49theories about forms and the soul.
- 2:53Xenophon's Socrates is practical.
- 2:56He is the man you might actually have bumped into on an Athenian street,
- 3:00and he talks about how to live.
- 3:03Diogenes only says Zeno took up the second book, and I can't tell you which page he
- 3:08opened.
- 3:10But that second book begins with Socrates teaching self mastery.
- 3:14How to stay in command of your appetites.
- 3:17How to bear hunger, and tiredness, and cold.
- 3:20It includes the parable of Heracles at the crossroads, a story Xenophon says
- 3:24Socrates took from the teacher Prodicus.
- 3:27Two women meet the young hero where the road divides.
- 3:31One offers the easy way, and the other offers a harder road with no decoration on
- 3:35it, and Heracles has to choose.
- 3:39The same book goes on to talk about duty to family, about brothers,
- 3:43and about how to find friends and keep them.
- 3:46Now notice what Zeno does not ask.
- 3:50He doesn't ask for more books.
- 3:53He doesn't ask for the theory behind it, or who wrote the best commentary.
- 3:58Diogenes says he asked where such men as were described in that book lived.
- 4:04Where do they live.
- 4:05Present tense.
- 4:07Socrates had been dead for nearly a century by then.
- 4:10He was executed in 399 BCE.
- 4:14So the question carries a little ache in it.
- 4:18Zeno has found a picture of a way of life that moves him, and he wants to know if
- 4:22anyone still lives it.
- 4:24Not whether it can be argued.
- 4:26Whether it can be found, walking about, in this very city.
- 4:31That's my reading of the moment, and I want to be clear it's my own.
- 4:35Diogenes gives us the question, not the feeling behind it.
- 4:39But I think the question tells us what kind of man Zeno was,
- 4:44even at thirty, with his whole fortune in doubt.
- 4:48And here I should be honest about the sources, because the ancient accounts don't
- 4:52agree on how Zeno came to philosophy.
- 4:55Diogenes reports another tradition, from a writer called Demetrius of Magnesia.
- 5:01In that version, Zeno's father was a merchant who often traveled to Athens,
- 5:05and he brought Socratic books home to Citium for his son to read while Zeno was
- 5:10still a boy.
- 5:12If that's true, Zeno didn't meet Socrates for the first time at a stall.
- 5:16He arrived in Athens already a reader.
- 5:19Diogenes also passes on a story from two other writers, Hecaton and Apollonius of
- 5:25Tyre.
- 5:26They say Zeno consulted the oracle and asked what he ought to do to live in the most
- 5:32excellent manner.
- 5:34The god answered that he ought to, quote, "become of the same complexion as the
- 5:39dead."
- 5:40End quote.
- 5:41And Zeno took that to mean he should immerse himself in the books of the ancients.
- 5:47So we have a sudden meeting at a stall, a boyhood among Socratic scrolls,
- 5:52and an oracle's riddle.
- 5:55Diogenes sets them down side by side, and I'm not going to pretend I can choose
- 6:00between them.
- 6:01Maybe they fit together.
- 6:03A man steeped in old books, told by a god to read the dead,
- 6:07finds that the dead are not enough.
- 6:10He wants to see one of them alive.
- 6:12Which brings us to the man walking past.
- 6:16Diogenes says Crates happened very seasonably to pass at that moment.
- 6:21Seasonably, in Yonge's word, as in the right time of year.
- 6:27It is the kind of luck that makes a story feel arranged, and I'll leave it to you
- 6:31whether it was luck.
- 6:33Crates came from Thebes, and he was a Cynic, a follower of the school that stripped
- 6:39life down to what is needed.
- 6:41His line of teaching runs back through Diogenes of Sinope, and through Antisthenes,
- 6:47to Socrates himself.
- 6:49And Crates had paid a price to belong to it.
- 6:52He came from a family with money, and he gave the money away.
- 6:56Then he took to the streets of Athens in a rough cloak, with a beggar's leather
- 7:00pouch and a staff.
- 7:02You might expect a grim figure.
- 7:05By every account, he was not.
- 7:08He was described as hunchbacked, and he was deliberately poor,
- 7:12and yet he was famous for his good cheer.
- 7:15The Athenians called him the Door Opener, because he was welcome in their houses.
- 7:21People let him in when there was a family quarrel, and he helped them make peace.
- 7:26A man with nothing to prove, and nothing to hide, and nothing to sell.
- 7:32I imagine the bookseller looking up from his shelves at the sound of Zeno's reading,
- 7:36and then glancing past him, to the street.
- 7:40And I imagine him seeing in the same moment the scroll in the stranger's hands,
- 7:44and the man in rags going by.
- 7:47That instant connection, between a dead Socrates in ink and a living Cynic in a
- 7:52coarse cloak, is the bookseller's own, and it's a remarkable one.
- 7:57He doesn't give a lecture.
- 7:59He doesn't say anything about schools of thought.
- 8:02He says, "Follow that man."
- 8:05And Diogenes tells us that from that time forth Zeno became a pupil of Crates.
- 8:11What happened once he caught up with him is a story all its own,
- 8:15and a memorable one.
- 8:16We'll get to that soon.
- 8:18For now, I want to stay with the shape of what we've seen.
- 8:22Stoicism, as the ancient accounts tell it, did not begin in a lecture room.
- 8:28It began when a man who had lost his cargo, and perhaps his plans,
- 8:33sat reading about how Socrates lived, and asked where he could see it done.
- 8:39The answer was not another scroll.
- 8:42It was a person walking down the street.
- 8:45I want to be honest about the cost, too.
- 8:48Crates's way of life was extreme, and it was not for everyone.
- 8:53Diogenes tells us that Zeno did not stay with Crates forever.
- 8:57In time, he left, and studied with other philosophers.
- 9:01But the first step had been taken in the market, on the strength of a living
- 9:06example.
- 9:08I find something steadying in that.
- 9:11Ideas matter, and ink matters.
- 9:16But Zeno could have bought the whole second book and kept it on a shelf.
- 9:21What changed his life was asking where the people were.
- 9:27Somewhere in that dusty stall, a scroll was set down half read,
- 9:33and a man stood up and went out into the light, behind a stranger in a rough cloak.
- 9:39That's the story for this morning.
- 9:42Tomorrow, we'll catch up with them.