Latest / Reality TV Cringe / 306: Is Robyn Brown About To Leave Kody? Raccoons Sound Off!

Transcript

306: Is Robyn Brown About To Leave Kody? Raccoons Sound Off! · Reality TV Cringe

• 0:04
  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Reality TV creen Wow. I am
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: one of your hosts, Delia Ahead here with my real
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: Ti at Home Girl and my daughter in law, the
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: beauteous Beatrice the green Head. We are here today to
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: take some of your calls presumably about the sister Why Yeah.
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: But before we get into it, we do have to
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: issue you a disclaimer. Please hi'd your wife and hide
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: your kids. This is an irreverent podcast which we say
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: stupid things. We tend to swear. We don't know if
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: what we're saying is accurate or true. We're just here
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: for the vibe. We're just here to have fun. We're
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: we and we're here to take your calls.
• 0:53
  Speaker 2: So if you're the same for you.
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: You might want to find yourself the dumpster. But if
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: you're ready to get down with some community commentary, then
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: welcome to this dumpster.
• 1:08
  Speaker 2: And if you like what we do over here and
• 1:09
  Speaker 2: think we're so pretty, you better go follow us on
• 1:12
  Speaker 2: Instagram at reality tv crnch and join us on Patreon, Patreon,
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: dot com, solash reality tv crnch. We have so much
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: fun in the vip dumpster. Everything that we record goes
• 1:22
  Speaker 2: in there ad free, and we also have a bunch
• 1:24
  Speaker 2: of bonus content, so it's lit.
• 1:27
  Speaker 1: If you are watching on YouTube, please not forget to
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: like and comment and share and subscribe because truly, every
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: single thing you do helps us to grow. Allegedly that's
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: a fairy tale, but we're clinging to it.
• 1:41
  Speaker 2: We're almost at six thousand subscribers.
• 1:44
  Speaker 1: Really, we are scaling mount six thousand subscribers. But also,
• 1:50
  Speaker 1: don't forget to hype your girls up because we notice
• 1:52
  Speaker 1: when you do it, and we do it makes me
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: feel really validated.
• 1:56
  Speaker 3: Me too.
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: It's just like we're doing something good in the world.
• 1:59
  Speaker 1: People need to laugh.
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: It makes me feel seen, like Boris on Couples Therapy,
• 2:04
  Speaker 2: which we react to on Patreon.
• 2:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, so thank you for all of that in advance. Okay, now,
• 2:11
  Speaker 1: if you want to call us, all you have to
• 2:13
  Speaker 1: do is go to speedpipe dot com, slash reality TV Cringe.
• 2:17
  Speaker 1: You have ninety seconds to pop off Queen or King
• 2:20
  Speaker 1: and it's free and let us know what you're thinking.
• 2:22
  Speaker 1: We love to hear from you, and we might even
• 2:24
  Speaker 1: play your massage. Wow. So, without any further ado, Beatrice,
• 2:30
  Speaker 1: let's get into the first call.
• 2:32
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:32
  Speaker 3: The Firson one we have is from Ashley, Hello raccoon friends.
• 2:37
  Speaker 3: My name is Ashley and I am reporting from a
• 2:39
  Speaker 3: dumpster outside of Detroit, Michigan. I just wanted to say
• 2:44
  Speaker 3: mostly my topic has to do with like the patriarchy
• 2:47
  Speaker 3: that is baked into the religion that they have. You know,
• 2:51
  Speaker 3: from the inception of the show, they talked about how
• 2:53
  Speaker 3: they didn't, you know, practice the same kind of polygamy
• 2:57
  Speaker 3: and it's not the same as a lot of these
• 3:01
  Speaker 3: other systems. And even with the divorces, Janelle was saying
• 3:04
  Speaker 3: how Cody kept bringing up, you know, patriarchy and this
• 3:09
  Speaker 3: and that, and how that was never a part of
• 3:11
  Speaker 3: their marriage before. But they're all liars and either they're
• 3:15
  Speaker 3: just deceiving themselves or they've been trying to deceive us
• 3:17
  Speaker 3: from the beginning because patriarchy is baked into this religion
• 3:22
  Speaker 3: and their thought process. And it was because of the
• 3:25
  Speaker 3: patriarchy and Cody being able to be a quote unquote
• 3:30
  Speaker 3: priesthood holder and a voice box for God within their
• 3:34
  Speaker 3: family's system that he was able to get I will say,
• 3:37
  Speaker 3: four beautiful wives in their prime and he pissed it
• 3:42
  Speaker 3: all up. But that's another thing also Cody talked about
• 3:47
  Speaker 3: and I know I'm going off of this, but Cody
• 3:49
  Speaker 3: talked about how he asked for release from Mary and
• 3:52
  Speaker 3: he was not allowed to have it, and a lot
• 3:53
  Speaker 3: of people have gone back and forth, but he didn't
• 3:56
  Speaker 3: say when he asked for it. Maybe he asked for
• 3:59
  Speaker 3: it before where Robin came in the family and that's
• 4:01
  Speaker 3: why the rings were melted.
• 4:06
  Speaker 1: That's it. Oh my god, she dropped a bomb on
• 4:09
  Speaker 1: that lass did part. Wow? Do we think that Cody
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: would have asked for a spiritual release from Mary after
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: Robin came into the family.
• 4:18
  Speaker 2: That would have been crazy, But he would have had
• 4:19
  Speaker 2: to get a divorce from her too at the same time,
• 4:22
  Speaker 2: which he could have legally done. But I guess I
• 4:26
  Speaker 2: don't know why they wouldn't grant him a release. I mean,
• 4:29
  Speaker 2: if we're to believe Cody Brown, like did he actually.
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: Ask for I don't believe him at all.
• 4:34
  Speaker 2: And like would they have granted him one if he
• 4:37
  Speaker 2: did ask? Like, I don't know. I mean, with how
• 4:39
  Speaker 2: patriarchal their religion actually is, I feel like they would
• 4:43
  Speaker 2: have given him the release, But.
• 4:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 4:44
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'm talking on my ass.
• 4:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, but doesn't Cody say that men aren't allowed
• 4:49
  Speaker 1: to ask for it. It's got to be the woman,
• 4:51
  Speaker 1: and like the woman has to kind of initiate, yeah,
• 4:53
  Speaker 1: the relationship, and also it's got to be the woman
• 4:55
  Speaker 1: to conclude it. Who knows, Do you know anybody in
• 4:57
  Speaker 1: the aub who can let us know how how the
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: rules work. At the end of the day, I don't
• 5:03
  Speaker 1: trust Cody. I don't believe much of what he has
• 5:06
  Speaker 1: to say. I do think it was very patriarchal, but
• 5:09
  Speaker 1: I think Cody, I do believe, at least in the beginning,
• 5:12
  Speaker 1: that Cody wasn't your typical patriarch of a family. Like
• 5:17
  Speaker 1: he was gone a lot, and you know, the wives
• 5:20
  Speaker 1: were taking care of the kids. But like he seemed
• 5:22
  Speaker 1: kind of like a fun dad. He did want all
• 5:24
  Speaker 1: of his wives around him. He seemed to be fair
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: in like spending his time with his wives. I don't know,
• 5:31
  Speaker 1: he just didn't seem like that stoic fatherly priest of
• 5:35
  Speaker 1: a family.
• 5:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean even in the earlier seasons, like
• 5:38
  Speaker 2: a lot of the wives could attest to that and
• 5:40
  Speaker 2: say said that they were independent, that they could have
• 5:44
  Speaker 2: their own decisions, make their own decisions, that they weren't
• 5:48
  Speaker 2: like obligated to follow Cody's rules or anything. Like they
• 5:52
  Speaker 2: were individual people, they had power, they had autonomy in
• 5:55
  Speaker 2: the family, so the wives would speak to that. Now
• 5:58
  Speaker 2: we could debate about that all day, every day day,
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: about whether or not that was true or whatever. But
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: I don't think Cody was like a patriarch or like
• 6:06
  Speaker 2: an oppressive patriarch from the beginning, but became one. He
• 6:10
  Speaker 2: definitely became one. And maybe like Robin kind of fanned
• 6:13
  Speaker 2: the flames for that, maybe, I mean, just to fuel
• 6:16
  Speaker 2: his ego and stuff and puff him up a little bit, right,
• 6:19
  Speaker 2: And maybe that's why he was getting fed up with
• 6:22
  Speaker 2: like having to manage everything. I don't fucking know.
• 6:24
  Speaker 1: You know, And like let's just face the fact of it,
• 6:26
  Speaker 1: Like this entire religion centers men. Yeah, And so even
• 6:30
  Speaker 1: if they thought they were independent in the beginning or
• 6:32
  Speaker 1: at any time, do they even know what independence is?
• 6:36
  Speaker 1: If you grew up and through this religion or like
• 6:39
  Speaker 1: a fundamentalist branch of this religion, like you really wouldn't
• 6:41
  Speaker 1: know what independence is because you've never experienced.
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: It well, And like a big tenet of this religion
• 6:47
  Speaker 2: is like only the men can get like gospel from
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: God or whatever, and like they're the only ones that
• 6:52
  Speaker 2: can be priests, and they're the only ones that could
• 6:54
  Speaker 2: be church leaders and stuff like that. So like, how
• 6:56
  Speaker 2: can you really feel like you have power that's like
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: the religion and the structure that you were grown up
• 7:03
  Speaker 2: you grew up in.
• 7:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe through playing girl games, which I
• 7:07
  Speaker 1: think Robin definitely knows how to do.
• 7:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely good call though, Ashley. Yeah, thank you, Ashley.
• 7:13
  Speaker 2: So the next one's a two parter and it's from Denise, Hi,
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: B and D.
• 7:17
  Speaker 4: It's a raccoon out here in California. My name's Denise.
• 7:22
  Speaker 4: I just had to let have some steam from this
• 7:24
  Speaker 4: episode because I just felt like I was having like
• 7:28
  Speaker 4: secondhand embarrassment for some reason. I like wanted to watch
• 7:31
  Speaker 4: the episode with like one eye closed, kind of like,
• 7:34
  Speaker 4: oh my god, these people are so like oh but yeah,
• 7:39
  Speaker 4: My biggest takeaway from that was or from the episode, sorry,
• 7:43
  Speaker 4: was Mary Girl, speak up, like take your power back,
• 7:49
  Speaker 4: Like we don't need you to like blow up and
• 7:51
  Speaker 4: like curse him or anything, but just speak your truth
• 7:54
  Speaker 4: and speak like you know, with power and you know,
• 7:59
  Speaker 4: tell the truth. And I don't know, I'm just like Okay,
• 8:03
  Speaker 4: Robin and Cody are obviously lying. I mean, I feel
• 8:06
  Speaker 4: like maybe Janelle did the backdoor deal whatever, maybe like
• 8:11
  Speaker 4: it kind of sounds like she's kind of one foot in,
• 8:13
  Speaker 4: one foot out kind of thing, you know, Like I
• 8:15
  Speaker 4: know she wants to get her money, so like, you know,
• 8:17
  Speaker 4: like I can respect that, like you know, but like
• 8:20
  Speaker 4: and you know, I just feel like too, like it's
• 8:23
  Speaker 4: just like they're trying to play this up so bad,
• 8:25
  Speaker 4: just like the same thing from what two seasons ago
• 8:28
  Speaker 4: where Cody was talking about getting back with Mary and
• 8:32
  Speaker 4: Christine denied it or something, you know.
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: What I mean.
• 8:35
  Speaker 4: But like it's just like what like I just I
• 8:39
  Speaker 4: just hate them.
• 8:40
  Speaker 3: I hate them.
• 8:41
  Speaker 4: That's all I can really say.
• 8:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's just address the things that she said
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: that I can recall, because I will forget some of
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: like personally with regard to Mary and her I'm not
• 8:52
  Speaker 1: sure when she called was so is this after their
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: meeting at the picnic table or was this after the
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: first tell all? Does this this is after the tell all?
• 8:59
  Speaker 1: So okay, so agreed, So during the tell all, I
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: really think it should have been Mary that was speaking
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: up for how she felt and what's been done to
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: her versus Jen. But I also think that it's going
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: to take time. After being a part of this repressive
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: family structure for thirty three years, it's going to take
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: some time for her to maybe incrementally be able to
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: say something with her full chest and to experience the
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: indignation fully. Like I think she's probably still in denial
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: to a certain extent, certainly as it concerns the other
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: OG wives that have left the family, like Christine and Janelle. Like,
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: I think she's still got baggage and sit around that.
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: And I also think she's probably still in some denial
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: around Cody and certainly Robin. So as she becomes more
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: aware of what's truly been done to her, like, maybe
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: she will form the ability to express that in a
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: way that I want to hear it right now, Like
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: I wish she would do more, but like I do
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: think she's probably doing the best that she can. That's
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: my charitable interpretation of what's going on with Mary.
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that doesn't negate the fact that it is
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: frustrating as the viewers to like watch this constantly, because
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: we've all been watching twenty seasons of this show of
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: Mary like constantly self sacrificing for not only Cody, but
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: for Robin and everybody else, and like not speaking her
• 10:22
  Speaker 2: full truth, not sitting in the full weight of that,
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: and like all of the feelings around it, and like
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: constantly going back to Cody. So like it's totally frustrating
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: to watch, but it is a process that she's she might.
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: Not even know the full truth. Maybe she might not
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: be conscious to like what has actually happened to her
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: because she's been indoctrinated into a culty religion and she's
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: been indoctrinated and integrated into this fucked up, problematic family.
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: And so she's still she only left a couple years ago, right,
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: so she's still in the process of like waking up, deconstructing. Really, yes,
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: and that's why maybe give her a little bit of
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: charity as it concerns her commentary about Janelle and doing
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: that to backdoor deal. You know how I feel about it. Yeah,
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: I totally feel that she did it.
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: I do agree with like the notion of her one
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: foot in, one foot out type of a thing. I
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: don't really think that she did a full on or
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: tried to do a full on backdoor deal. I do
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: think she was trying to secure her bag though, And
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: can we really blame her for that.
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: No, no, we cannot. But I also think she probably
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: signed an NDA, and if she did that, that's a thing,
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: that's kind of a bitch move.
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: So bagi.
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, I was watching, well, sorry, I was watching my
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: take on reality with my friend Jakes. We love we
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: love James very much, but he was talking about what
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: we were talking about around this whole NDA problem and
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: issue like why are we having cast members try to
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: bind other cast members regarding current storylines that the audience
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: is actually invested in? Like why are we allowing them
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: to do that? And if we do allow them to
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: do that, and if Janelle has actually signed this NDA,
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: well then you are fucking up the entire franchise. Nobody's
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: gonna want to watch a curated, sanitized version of these
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: absolutely diabolical villains. We want to see it all, we
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: want to know it all, and so production had better
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: get their.
• 12:13
  Speaker 3: Head out of their ass.
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: They won't. They don't give a shit about us.
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: They really don't, all.
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: Right, Part two of Denise's message.
• 12:22
  Speaker 4: Hey it's Denise again. I'm so sorry. I just had
• 12:25
  Speaker 4: more to add because I just feel like it's just
• 12:27
  Speaker 4: aggravating me so much that I just had more to
• 12:29
  Speaker 4: say about Mary not saying anything. I think it's like
• 12:34
  Speaker 4: ridiculous that she is like basically silencing herself to like
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: make it thing like, Oh, I'm nice and I'm trying
• 12:41
  Speaker 4: to be a good person and I don't want to
• 12:43
  Speaker 4: make myself look bad on TV. Whatever. If you tell
• 12:46
  Speaker 4: the truth and you have integrity, like I feel like
• 12:49
  Speaker 4: that's all that would matter to us. But also it's
• 12:53
  Speaker 4: like you didn't want to send an inn D because
• 12:55
  Speaker 4: you didn't want them to silence you. You're silencing yourself by
• 13:01
  Speaker 4: not wanting to you know, look like crazy or whatever.
• 13:05
  Speaker 4: But it's like, girl, just just sign the end day
• 13:08
  Speaker 4: then if you don't want to say nothing, Like that's
• 13:10
  Speaker 4: crazy to me. I was literally thinking about that in
• 13:12
  Speaker 4: the shower, like, oh my gosh, this episode got me
• 13:14
  Speaker 4: so messed up. I'm just like tired of Sister Wives now.
• 13:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know what it is, like I thought it
• 13:18
  Speaker 4: was gonna be like blown away. I don't know, but
• 13:21
  Speaker 4: I just feel so angry. Oh.
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: I mean she makes a good point of like you're
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: gonna talk about the NDA and not wanting to be silenced,
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: but then you're literally silencing yourself and not saying anything,
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: and then you're gonna go on TikTok and like post
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: passive aggressive videos about like how you're not gonna spill
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: the tea because other people are spilling the tea and
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: that's like beneath you and you know you've moved on
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: and you don't want to say anything, like I don't know.
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: I think she makes a good point with that.
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: I would agree, And I think what's pissing her often
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: certainly the rest of us, is just this lack of authenticity.
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: And she mentions Mary intentionally trying to appear nice or
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: trying to be the favorite ex wife is something that
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: we've also kind of said about her, like she wants
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: to appear that way because I think that she's concerned
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: about her image and probably her businesses Worthy Up and
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: Lularou and all of that, Like she can't look like
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: an absolute mean girl or a doormat, and she's been
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: a doormat for a really long time with Cody Brown.
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: And I think underneath, like the veneer of what we
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: see with Mary Brown, we do have somebody who's got
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: some personality issues. Like I do think she has a
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: tendency to be cruel and means certainly if we believe
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: some of the things that Christina said and what the
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: kids have said about Mary. Yeah, and there's not a
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: lot of talk about how she has changed, how she's
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: going to do better. I mean, she seems happy. I'm
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: happy for her. I just don't I don't know that
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: she has it within her to be direct and full
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: of integrity and transparent. I just don't know that she
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: knows how to do it. And part of that is
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: because maybe there's some issues with their personality. And the
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: other part of that is she's very concerned about her image,
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: and she should be, because they think she's a mean
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: person underneath at all.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, totally, and honestly, to your point, I don't think
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: any of these people can really be fully authentic or
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: fully honest because they've been on TV for fifteen something years,
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: so like you've they've become like a different version of themselves.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: Like we're not going to know the real versions of
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: who these people are, and like maybe we're not really
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: entitled to that because these are real people with like
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: real families and stuff, and they don't want to air
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: out all their dirty business and stuff like that, and
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: I get it, but it's just annoying when like you
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: have people like Mary who not only have the worthy
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: up business, but they constantly go on this like I'm
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: standing in my true.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: Self righteous sanctimonious.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's so, it's so self righteous and it's so annoying. Like,
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: if you want to stand in your full truth, then
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: say it. If you don't want to be silenced, then
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: say what they wanted to silence you for, and.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Stop using proxy people to tell us what you want
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: us to hear, Like, just say it with your own mouth.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: You're a big girl, you're in your fifties. You can
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: do it.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: And you're divorced to like, it doesn't matter.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: What does it cost you anyway?
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: And I guess I understand the point that you made
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: about like the businesses and stuff, but I'm just like,
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know. If you just set it all out
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: loud and you were authentic and you had integrity.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Like you have more business, oh my god, and you'd
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: have my respect as well.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Maybe people would pay for your stupid retreats.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Which currently don't have. Sorry, currently don't have that exactly.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: So thank you, Denise about your messages. We definitely co
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: sign a lot of them. Next one is an anonymous raccoon.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: I get scared.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Do you have to listen to it before?
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: No?
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: Are you sure?
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: I guess play it?
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: Okay, Yolo, Hey, B and D, it's Rachel again. I
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: called last week with my theory that Cody is primarily
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: doing this apology tour to get back in Robin's good graces,
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: and I agree with you, guys. It's probably not his
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: only aim in doing this, but I think it is
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: his primary aim. And the reason I think that is
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: because I've been binge watching a channel on YouTube hosted
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: by a couple that grew up with the Browns in
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: AUB and have since left. The female host is actually
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: the daughter of the current prophet of the AUB so
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: they have very deep insights into what's going on here,
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: and in their eyes, it's a foregone conclusion that Robin
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: is about to leave Cody, or that she at least
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: will leave Cody. They also seem to think that Cody
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: is aware of this, and that's why we're seeing him
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: kind of panic all the time about like is Robin,
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: can you love me? Can you be monogamous with me?
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Etc?
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: So in their eyes, she's most certainly going to leave him,
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: and then recycle herself back into the Aub to join
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: a family that can let her get into the celestial kingdom.
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: I guess this happens all the time within this faith.
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: So if that were to happen, Cody would lose instantly
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: at least fifty percent of his marital assets. Three of
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: the five kids are not biologically his, so there's a
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: good chance he would lose access to many of his
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: children as well. And also, the only possible upside from
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: like a material point of Robin leaving would be like
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: that makes great television. But according to this couple, the
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: AUB would never allow her to keep filming, so the
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: show would also lose a star and a great storyline,
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: so there'd be like nothing left.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: But if that were true, why would the AUB have
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: let them film for the first ten to thirteen seasons
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Because they were still part of the religion and active
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: in it, and presumably the AUB was okay with that.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Well, they weren't, like, they weren't happy about it, but
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: they did let them film.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And Christine talks about in her book how like
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: she was doing those principal voices things with the Aub,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: like twenty ten twenty eleven, twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, like
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: she was actively involved in it, So I don't I
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: don't know about that.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Oh my god. But could you see a world where
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: like Robin leaves to go join another family in the
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: aub just so she can get money. I mean, like,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: for real, though, who would want to marry me?
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: You actually can't really see that I want to marry her, don't.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: She doesn't strike me as somebody who's legitimately religious. I
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, that's because we see the dark sided
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: nature in the show. Like, I just don't see her
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: as somebody who's pursuing a divine cause or trying to
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: align herself with God. She seems like a diabolical, duplicitous
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: hag to me, who's willing to steal allegedly from women
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: and children and ruin lives and stuff so that she
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: can live in a poisonous, toxic house next to a
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: mine and have her bum ass kitchen at the expense
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: of everybody else. And so like, how is that reflective
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: of the Father in Heaven of the Mormon religion. I'm
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: just not seeing it. To me. If Robin leaves Cody,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: she's going to try and glom on like some sort
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: of an opportunistic parasite to another man. Now, maybe he
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: might be a Mormon, maybe he might be in the
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: au B, but it's going to be about the bag.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: It's going to be about the coins.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Well, and like if she did divorce him, don't you
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: have to take on half the debt too? Yes, like
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: when you divorce indeed, Like it's not like she would
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: get a ton of money. Maybe they have some money
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: liquid we don't know full coins and stuff.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: We just made a video for Patreon discussing the seven
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars home equity loan that Cody
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: and Robin took out against the New McMansion on December
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: thirty first, twenty twenty five, and we got the t
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: from Reality Squad Sarah Howes. Thank you for that. But
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: like we had a long conversation like how liquid are
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: they because we don't necessarily agree with Sarah in terms
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: of the money that they've had and what they've been
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: doing with it. But I don't think they've got a
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: lot of liquidity. I think they are entirely leveraged. They
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: have massive amounts of debt. I think they know that
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Sister Wives is winding down, which is probably the primary
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: reason Cody went on this apology tour because he's got
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: to make amends with his other cast members, or what
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: kind of show are they going to be able to fill?
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: You're not going to have anything even then, Like, even
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: with the fake amends, it's not like any of them
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: are ever going to interact again, except for on the
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: one on ones where they're reacting to what other people
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: are saying about them. But like the show is not
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: really going to be like all of them together. It's
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: just gonna be TLC traveling to Utah and traveling to
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: North Carolina and traveling the flag staff and just filming
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: separate bullshit fucking scenes.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I do think it's really interesting curious that there might
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: already be rumblings that Robin is currently on her way
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: out and that Cody knows that and that he's scrambling.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: It might have something to do with him wanting to
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: be like buff and strong and like make all of
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: these demonstrations of masculinity and also like I'll buy you
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: this house and we can have this seven hundred and
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars essential credit card leveraged against our house
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: that you can go buy all of your dolls and
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: your Decenzian village and Yourkhal's cardigans. I would give you
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: whatever you want if you'll just stay with me. But
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: like Robin, for all the things we could say about her,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think she is untent. I think she's got
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: some Capricorn money energy somewhere in her zodiac because she
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: can see what's happening. She knows this is all going
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: to go away. How could she not. I'll get a
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: couple of dumb raccoons in a dumpster. Bit wigs see
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: this in her not well, so he probably at the
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: very least does have a sense that she's thinking about it.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I just thinking out what am I going to do?
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I would because you're almost sixty, Cody Brown, and that
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: hair ain't haring anymore. And I'm thankful you went on
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: the Special Forces and you made a nice cool coin
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: that I then spent on at Sea dolls and their clothing.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: But like what comes after Sister Wives is gone?
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, with our three income sources leaving us all
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: the same time, like what are we going to do?
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, like Janelle Marrion and Christine leaving like they
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: have no money coming in besides the show, so and.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm not going to sit here or stand
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: here and tap on their financial grave because that is
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: unseemly and I'm a good person. But I'll just tell you,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: taking the temperature of the audience, people are just waiting
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: for the day, honey. They're waiting for the day. I'm
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: waiting that all of this I can't wait crumbles at
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: their feet and it's going to it's going to.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: How could it not? I mean, how can the wicked prosper?
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Will you take it out? A seven hundred and fifty
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars? These people are so bad with money. Anyway,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: if you're interested in our commentary, it's on our patreots,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: go and watch it. Yeah, thank you for the call, though, Rachel.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I do love to hear your opinion on us.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: So all right, next one we have is from another Rachel.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it's the same one or can't.
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: Sorry to go over my time as I always do,
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: but if you want to check out the YouTube channel,
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: I think it's called Notes to Sell four four four.
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: They have such interesting insights. I, as an outsider, would
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: assume like X Y and Z would happen given the situation,
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: but I would be wrong, Like the morays and values
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: of this culture are so different than mainstream that us
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: talking about it from the outside we will get the
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: wrong conclusion. It's such a hierarchical system. It's so patriarchal.
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: There's something called like the priesthood, and I guess that's
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: all that seems to matter. It's so incredibly interesting. I
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: think the take that I found the most surprising is
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: that Robin and Cody are actually not like vicious monster
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: people given the context. They're stereotypical polygamists. I guess there's
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: always a favorite wife. There's always a wife pretending to
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: be like extremely pious and close to God and calls
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: the shots using that facade. They're kind of I guess
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: the Brown family's kind of textbook from their take. And
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: not only that, they're actually kind of better than the average,
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: actual like private polygamist family because they had cameras on them.
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: So this is not like some freak accident that happened
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: in polygamy. This is par for the course, if not
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: a little bit better than what is standard. Wild Check
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: them out.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: You'll absolutely love it, just because the system of the
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: religion the aub LDS polygamy is flawed, and within that
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: flawed demonic system, Cody and Robin are not so bad.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Doesn't make Cody and Robin not so bad. I think
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: that they're still bad people. I think if you're I
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: don't care. Dude, if you came up in a toxic
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: cult and then turned around and were toxic to your
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: kids and disowned them and talked such trash about the
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: women who supported you and were vile to them, like
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: that makes you a bad person. And just because there
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: are worse people in a fucked up system like polygamy,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you're a good person for sure. And
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Robin is the worst, like not vicious. Really, I'm sorry,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm Rachel. I'm not arguing with you. Thank
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: you so much. Your commentary is illuminating and I love it.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: But I don't believe that, and I actually want to
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: believe Maddie, and I want to be leave the kids
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: that were there that are speaking out about how these
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: people actually were. Mary included, Christine included, and Janelle included,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Like these are not necessarily good people.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: I can understand, like in the context of this religious
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: structure and this cult that like maybe Codium Robin are
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: not as bad as some of the other like polygamist
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: families or like polygamists, Like.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not Warren Jeff's.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: That's right true exactly, but it's still objectively awful, and
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: it just goes to show that, like this system just
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: doesn't fucking work. It also makes me look at other
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: families like the Dargers or like that guy on My
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Five Wives who is super weird and shady in my opinion,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: that's another very bomist though, but like yeah, just makes
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: you look at their families differently too, because if this
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: is like the norm, like if this is a stereotype
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: for a reason, because there's always a favorite wife, there's
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: always this hierarchy, there's always like abuse, you know, like
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: whether it's financial or emotional or physical or whatever. Like
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: why are we platforming these families?
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Then?
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Like why are we giving them shows if they're just
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: objectively terrible?
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Indeed? I mean, but that's TLC's bread and butter, and
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: they're going to continue to do it, Like if we're
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: going to continue to watch and we are we are
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: week after week after week, and the universal weath, then
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: they're going to continue to platform these types of frankly
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: abusive people. In my opinion, and.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I think the only reason why any of us
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: watch is because we're just waiting and hoping for the
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: day that people get justice, that karma comes up, and
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: it comes up hard and it kicks them in the ass.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I think that's why we're all watching, even though it's boring,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: even though it's frustrating, even though it's annoying to watch
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: them lie constantly, we're just waiting.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: We're waiting for that you know what's coming, honey, And
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I think they know it too well.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I think they know it too. So thank you, Rachanie Rachel,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I really do appreciate your thoughts and opinions.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: All right, last one we have is from Raccoon Gertrude.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: Okay, Gertrude, this is Raccoon Gertrude. I'm calling from a
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: dumpster in New Jersey. The reason for my call is
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: I have a theory about Ron and Mary. I'm getting
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: homosexical vibes from both of them, and I'm wondering if
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: their whole thing about meeting each other at the right time,
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: and there's a reason is that they both are supporting
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: each other on their journey to coming out, not for
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: them to be dating.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: That's awesome, so like a lavender relationship. Yes, yeah, what I.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Could see it. Ethel and I talk about it all
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: the time that I think that we both think that
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Mary is like a repressed lesbian and I could totally
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: see it, you know, And this is such an inappropriate
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: thing to speculated about, but I am a lesbian, so
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I'm allowed to. I just I don't know, so I
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: get those vibes, and like, I know, people were totally
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: speculating her included that Ron was totally gay.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Me.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, she texted me the day she was watching it.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: She's like, get listen, I'm old, hoody and I've been
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: hanging out with my friends a lot of many of
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: which are homosexicals, and love the community, love my babies,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: make gibes, love make babies, and so like, I love
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: to see more homosexuals. Like that'sh just me, but yeah,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: it was giving me a little bit of the fancy,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: festive gay vibes with Ron and Mary. I don't I.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Could see it, like I see it.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: The work she would have to do, I think to
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: be comfortable enough to accept even a bisexical trait within
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: herself I think would be like massive for her to do.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: But if that is her natural inclination, like that is
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: what really she feels inside, then I would want that
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: for her.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: I mean the catfish was actually a.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Woman, so but she thought it was sad.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: I thought it was a man. That's what she told
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: us on the cameras. What if she didn't, what if
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: she knew it wasn't a man the entire time.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: No, Mary thought that was a handsome young business originally,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: and she was into it because I do think she's heterosexual.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: That doesn't mean ron is. But like also when you
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: think about the religious system she came out of, and
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: probably him, I mean he's living in Utah. He's probably
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Mormon too, probably you know, so he's come up in
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: a religion where it's not acceptable to be gay. We've
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: talked about this. Have they loosened the reins on their
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: hatred and bigotry towards homosexuals?
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Well, they're not as like hateful as like other like
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: religions in the sense of like pray the gay away,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Like they acknowledge that homosexuality exists, but you're not allowed
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: to act on it because it's sinful to act on it. Okay,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Like you can be gay. That's why those guys on
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: we reacted to it on Patreon. My husband's not gay.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so great.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: They were Mormons and all gay and they were completely
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: so fucking gay. Yeah, the gayest guys I've ever seen
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: in my life. And yeah, so like they acknowledge that
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: they have the attraction and.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: They really support themselves on their male camping trips talking
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: about how they can't be gay, gotta have boy time,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: yeah in the tent and stuff on.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: The back mountain.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Anyway, So like maybe you know, Ron's in his fifties,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Like maybe he's come up through this patriarchal, toxic religious
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: system that hates on the gays and so he doesn't
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: know how to embrace that side of him. But we
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: are speculating, like crazy people on the internet, like he
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: seems like a perfectly reasonable, lovely person. Mary seems a
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: little bit sprung and into it or whatever. So God bless, God.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Bless, and maybe he's just super metro and maybe he's
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: the straightest guy we know.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, so back to our YouTube channel, we censored that.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: We censored a little bit of that because she got
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: so inappropriate and rude. But I didn't rude. She was
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: rude to me anyway, any more calls?
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: That was it?
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Great call? I mean scandalous. Thought it scandalous, but like.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Let us know your thoughts.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: We kind of love it.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Do you think Mary's a closeted lesbian?
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Do you think ron don't opine about that? I don't
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: drop a comment about that, drop a comment about the
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: other stuff we've been talking about. Gosh darn all right
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: on that note, it has been fabulous. We're gonna be
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: back later this week, of course, are you kidding? With
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: our recap of sister wives? And we are also launching
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: into our recaps of them amish people. They're suddenly amish, honey.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: They have left the city streets with their beat faces
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: and their nails, and they're out to churn some butter
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: and make their own sanitary napkins. If I'm not here
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: for that, I'm not here for nothing. So excited, So
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: we're going to be back for that. Make sure to
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: come back. Don't forget to like, don't forget to subscribe
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: until next time. Please do not forget the way nothing
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: will love for.
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: You and peace.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Bye way