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RHOBH: Teddi Mellencamp Spills! · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: I started have an idea when I was watching the
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  Speaker 1: show back and I saw that so many things weren't
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  Speaker 1: in there, and I was like, this is not great
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  Speaker 1: for me. This is and I started feeling like a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of nervous energy. But they I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: had had my meeting to go back, so I was like, Okay, I.
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  Speaker 2: Guess I am good. And then I found out on
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  Speaker 2: daily mail that I.
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  Speaker 3: Was like, oh, what wait, no one called you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I was on the treadmill or the bike or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: and a friend of mine sent it to me and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, no, come on, I think we started
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  Speaker 1: filming in two weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Or whatever it was.
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  Speaker 1: And then I called my reps and I'm like, what
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  Speaker 1: the hell what is this And they're like, oh, we
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  Speaker 1: were going to call you today. We knew you were,
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  Speaker 1: you know, on vacation with your family this weekend, and
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  Speaker 1: we didn't want to say anything, but we didn't think
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  Speaker 1: it would be leaked this early.
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  Speaker 3: Stay tuned.
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  Speaker 4: We'll get into my conversation right after these quick ads.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos King,
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  Speaker 4: sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten
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  Speaker 3: Well, he loon range drops.
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  Speaker 4: Today, I have a very special guest. She is someone
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  Speaker 4: who I really did like on the Real House Spots
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  Speaker 4: of Belly Hills.
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  Speaker 3: Some of you guys did, but we're gonna get into
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  Speaker 3: that too.
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  Speaker 4: But I liked her and I'm gonna explain to you
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  Speaker 4: guys why. Also, she is the host of the number
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  Speaker 4: one podcast in TV and film, along with our good
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  Speaker 4: friend Tamer Judge.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, bitches, I'm talking.
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  Speaker 4: About my girl, the Blonde Bombshell Teddy Mela Caap.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I need to do all my intros.
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  Speaker 2: That was amazing. Thank you so much for having me.
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  Speaker 2: We love you, Twatz, love you.
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  Speaker 3: I love you, ladies. I love the Twats.
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  Speaker 4: I told you guys before when I was a special
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  Speaker 4: guest in your podcast.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a twatter myself. When I learned that.
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  Speaker 4: Tamer and Teddy we're going to do a podcast together,
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  Speaker 4: I was like, this is so weird. I think it's
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  Speaker 4: a dumb idea. How good is this going to be?
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  Speaker 4: And then I listened to the first episode and I said, woh,
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  Speaker 4: because when I'm wrong, I will admit that I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 4: I said, wait, this is actually good. I immediately subscribe
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  Speaker 4: to it. And every single episode Teddy is so good
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  Speaker 4: and so juicy. And you guys have the top podcast
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  Speaker 4: in TV film and in terms of housewives, you guys
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  Speaker 4: have surpassed Bethany.
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  Speaker 3: Frankel, have a debro Giselle and Robin. You guys are
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  Speaker 3: truly the top.
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  Speaker 2: Why didn't Giselle and Rabin? I was like, hold on, I.
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  Speaker 1: Saw that they got they tagged us and said, we
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  Speaker 1: don't know what they're talking about, the you know them saying.
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  Speaker 2: They were the first, you know number one?
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  Speaker 1: I was like, why Potomik is my favorite of any
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  Speaker 1: housewife franchise. I am obsessed with Potomac and I love them, And.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, why are they coming for us? The
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  Speaker 2: more the merrier.
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  Speaker 4: Now that's how I feel about my position as a
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  Speaker 4: late night host and somebody who had a career in
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  Speaker 4: producing reality TV and now I've transitioned from the camera.
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  Speaker 4: But there's people who hate on me and I feel
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  Speaker 4: like you like there's room for all of us to win.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm with you, Teddy girl. Did you feel shade
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  Speaker 4: from just Zella and Robbin like it was fun shade?
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  Speaker 4: Or do you think no shade to those ladies? They
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  Speaker 4: truly don't know their numbers.
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  Speaker 1: Even if you don't know, like if they weren't an
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  Speaker 1: iHeart podcast and they can't see our actual numbers, you
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  Speaker 1: can go to where it says TV and film, top episodes,
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  Speaker 1: top shows.
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  Speaker 2: You can and you can learn it.
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  Speaker 1: That being said, they could have just been, you know,
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  Speaker 1: being playful. I've noticed that a lot of people are
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  Speaker 1: trying to be playful to kind of shade the pod.
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  Speaker 2: But then people keep talking about it.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm like, great for us, that's money in our pockets.
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  Speaker 1: Keep it coming, keep talking about like it's on watch
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  Speaker 1: What Happens Live every week.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, great.
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  Speaker 4: One thing I've learned doing this podcast is, Teddy, we
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  Speaker 4: are the starter of conversations and we're the ones who
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  Speaker 4: actually have an influence on people watching the current programs
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  Speaker 4: on reality TV.
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  Speaker 3: And I'll give you an example.
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  Speaker 4: I interview Marlow Hampton on my podcast and it broke
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  Speaker 4: the internet.
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  Speaker 3: She trended, Charade trended, Candy trended.
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  Speaker 4: It was all over the blogs so much so her
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  Speaker 4: interview dropped on a Wednesday. Atlanta Housewives came on that Sunday.
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  Speaker 4: That Sunday after my podcast interview Teddy was the highs
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  Speaker 4: rated episode of the season so far, is the only
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  Speaker 4: episode that did over a million same day. And that's
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  Speaker 4: because of reality with the King podcast and my interview
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  Speaker 4: with Marlow.
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  Speaker 1: It's because everybody is on social media, everybody is listening
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  Speaker 1: to podcasts now, everybody's streaming different things.
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  Speaker 2: So the fact that just getting more.
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  Speaker 1: Information out there and disagree with it, agree with it
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  Speaker 1: whatever you want. I'm not saying that, and I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: you're not saying either that everything we say or comes
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  Speaker 1: out of our mouth is one hundred percent you have
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  Speaker 1: to agree with. But it's going to open the conversation.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the point exactly. So let's open this conversation.
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  Speaker 1: I have a question for.
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  Speaker 3: You, Teddy. Where were you on January sixth?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I couldn't help.
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  Speaker 1: Myself, like I'm one of those people that I'm chill
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  Speaker 1: until I'm not chill anymore like you. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not really chill. Ever, I'm very type baying controlling it.
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  Speaker 1: But I allowed it when she was on the podcast
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  Speaker 1: with me and Tamor because I was thinking, maybe she's
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  Speaker 1: joking when she kept saying how jealous she was and
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  Speaker 1: all of these things. But where it really started to
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  Speaker 1: piss me off was not necessarily what she was saying
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  Speaker 1: about me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm used to it.
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  Speaker 1: But when she couldn't support her friend Tamra's podcast on
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  Speaker 1: Entertainment Tonight, that's when I was like, take me out
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  Speaker 1: of the equation. You're supposedly best friends. The interviewer Bryce
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  Speaker 1: Sander brings up to Teason a pod and instead of
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  Speaker 1: being like Tarmra compared yours, this is, you know whatever,
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  Speaker 1: She's like, I don't like Teddy, I don't And I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: we don't want to talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: We don't want that brought up in the press. This
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  Speaker 2: isn't about Tamra, And I'm like, but it actually is.
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  Speaker 1: And anytime any of my friends can be brought up
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  Speaker 1: and put in the forefront, I want to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: lift them up in the same.
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  Speaker 2: Way, like yes, get it.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: And we're talking about Vicky Gobleson and is it true
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  Speaker 4: that Vicky Goblesant tried to get you fire off on
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  Speaker 4: your own podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, she called my boss at iHeart after doing my
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  Speaker 1: podcast and with Tamra and said, you know, I really
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  Speaker 1: think the podcast would be better if it was with
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  Speaker 1: me and Tamra and goes on and on and on,
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  Speaker 1: and my boss is like, well, one, we had our
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  Speaker 1: deal with Teddy to start. Teddy brought Tamar on and
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  Speaker 1: we're not replacing her and you could say all you want, but.
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  Speaker 2: It's not happening. And was very straightforward with her.
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  Speaker 1: But then here's the part that even more bananas, as
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  Speaker 1: after all this happens and she says everything on watch
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  Speaker 1: what Happens Live on Bryce Sander.
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  Speaker 2: She had her reps email iHeart for.
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  Speaker 1: A podcast, and they're like, you're absolutely not getting a podcast,
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  Speaker 1: like you're you know, been dogging out our number one podcast.
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  Speaker 2: We're not, you know, like you can come into ours.
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  Speaker 2: I'm happy to have.
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  Speaker 1: You have a conversation with Teddy on the podcast or
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  Speaker 1: fill in for tamor from time to time, but we're
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  Speaker 1: absolutely not doing a separate thing.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: So she tried to get you fire off your own
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  Speaker 4: podcast where you have a deal first and you actually
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  Speaker 4: brought Tamra on and then she tried to get a
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  Speaker 4: deal at the very company that produces your podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Listen.
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  Speaker 4: I think Vicky is great television. She's one of my
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  Speaker 4: top ten greatest housewives of all time? Is Vicky the
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  Speaker 4: jealous type? Like we know that Tama's coming back on
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  Speaker 4: OC congratulations? Do you think Vicky is jealous of Tamara
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  Speaker 4: and any woman.
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  Speaker 3: Who succeeds more than she does.
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  Speaker 2: I think she.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm one of those people who when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to my friendships, I love when they're all friends.
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  Speaker 1: But I think that anybody that comes between her and
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  Speaker 1: somebody she doesn't. Maybe she has insecurities about her relationships.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think she necessarily doesn't want Tamra to succeed,
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  Speaker 2: but she's just fueled.
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  Speaker 1: By her own I don't know insecurity that it's not her,
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  Speaker 1: whereas I can separate the two things. Of course, there
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  Speaker 1: are things I'm insecure about. Of course, there are things
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  Speaker 1: that I feel bad about, but that doesn't take away
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  Speaker 1: from how much I want my friends to succeed, or
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  Speaker 1: how much I'm excited for Tama, or when I got
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  Speaker 1: the podcast, how I connected Kyle and Tarma and they
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  Speaker 1: got along perfectly because they.
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  Speaker 2: Both love and care about me.
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  Speaker 1: There's no reason to have to block a friendship unless
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  Speaker 1: you're feeling insecure about your own.
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  Speaker 4: Whose ego is Bigger Big and Goba sins or at
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  Speaker 4: Leasa Vanda Pop's.
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  Speaker 1: I would say completely different because Vicky does.
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  Speaker 2: It straightforward, she does it right to your face.
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  Speaker 1: She does it like she's intense about it, and Lisa
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  Speaker 1: vander Pump does it through the side kind of being
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  Speaker 1: a victim, so then you feel bad and then.
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  Speaker 2: People attack you for it.
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  Speaker 1: Vicky, there's no like I do appreciate that.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like I'm not getting it. She's saying it
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  Speaker 2: to me.
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  Speaker 4: Let's talk about your time on the show, and let's
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  Speaker 4: have a real deep and depth conversation about it. So
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  Speaker 4: when you came on The Real Housewives of Belly Hills,
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  Speaker 4: obviously you were a breath of fresh air. A first
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  Speaker 4: season housewife. It takes a minute to get used to
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  Speaker 4: it because from my experience producing housewives, it's hard for
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  Speaker 4: a first season housewife to understand what's going on because
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  Speaker 4: what the audience doesn't realize is, yes, it's a reality show,
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  Speaker 4: but it's also like this game of Survivor and Big
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  Speaker 4: Brother in the sense of you're trying to survive on
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  Speaker 4: the island, and in this case is the island of
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  Speaker 4: nine to two one zero. Secondly, Big Brother in the
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  Speaker 4: sense of you have to build an alliance with someone
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  Speaker 4: in order to stay strong with these friendships you're trying
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  Speaker 4: to cultivate, so it's hard for you to be present
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  Speaker 4: because you're trying to figure out at the newbie, what's real,
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  Speaker 4: what's fake, what's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Was that your experience your first season?
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  Speaker 1: I would say I went into my first season. Erica
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  Speaker 1: was accurate when she said, whatever it was, you're like
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  Speaker 1: a fawn, and don't try to be a fawn in
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  Speaker 1: the wood or whatever it was that she said, like
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  Speaker 1: a deer, like stuck in the headlights. Essentially, that's what
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  Speaker 1: she said, and that was pretty much me the first season.
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  Speaker 1: I was so in my head, not necessarily about trying
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  Speaker 1: to form an alliance, but because I didn't know anyone
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  Speaker 1: going into it.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't regardless of what people have.
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  Speaker 1: Said, I definitely didn't have the most money. I was
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  Speaker 1: thirty five years old, I had nothing in common with
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the women on the show, and all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden, I'm being told dress up do this
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  Speaker 1: show up.
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  Speaker 2: No, you can't wear that, but you know, like all of.
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  Speaker 1: These things, and I'm trying to recalculate who I was
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  Speaker 1: but still be me. So that's I think a lot
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  Speaker 1: of my emotions the first season was just.
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  Speaker 2: I was uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 1: If I came back now would be a completely different
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  Speaker 1: situation because I'm comfortable in my own skin. I'm comfortable
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  Speaker 1: talking in a public forum. But I mean at that
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  Speaker 1: point in time, I had ridden.
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  Speaker 2: Horses for a living.
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  Speaker 1: I was very you know, I'd known the same people
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  Speaker 1: my entire life, and then you throw me in front
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  Speaker 1: of you know, a full crew and start.
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  Speaker 2: Knowing that we're going to have to create drum and
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  Speaker 2: I did know how to handle it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And the Fema Erica said, was you think you're
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  Speaker 4: a fond a month sharks, Teddy, raise up or get
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  Speaker 4: the fuck out?
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  Speaker 3: Come on girl.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's and that really was.
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  Speaker 1: And then as I stayed on the show and I
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  Speaker 1: saw it happening with other women that were the same
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  Speaker 1: way that I was, I could see myself starting to
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  Speaker 1: harden too. It like, come on, and you know what
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  Speaker 1: you signed up for, but in my you know, you
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  Speaker 1: just it's the progression of.
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  Speaker 2: Being on the show.
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  Speaker 1: Your first season, you're completely at shock, like on what's happening?
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  Speaker 1: And then as you go you start to know more.
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  Speaker 1: And then in my case, I made some big mistakes.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think you were cast on the show because
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  Speaker 4: John Meller Camp's your father?
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  Speaker 1: I think partially for sure, But I think that I
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  Speaker 1: also I think my dad's really private. So the idea
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  Speaker 1: of getting to know a portion of him was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: an idea, And of course they would have hoped that
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  Speaker 1: he was going to be on the show. But I
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  Speaker 1: also knew during my audition I was going to get it.
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  Speaker 1: I was good like that day. I may have not
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  Speaker 1: been good after that, but I put on a good
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  Speaker 1: show for my audition, and then I got scared. They
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  Speaker 1: used a little tiny chunk of my audition tape in
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  Speaker 1: the first season, and it's when I'm with my kids.
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  Speaker 2: I'm in shorty shorts.
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  Speaker 1: Platform shooting like I look ridiculous, and like they're jumping
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  Speaker 1: on the trampoline and I was like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: I forgot I did that during the audition because I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to stand out or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I mean. It's so embarrassing.
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  Speaker 3: Branch And the thing.
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  Speaker 4: Is this a lot of people Teddy hate you. They
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  Speaker 4: consider you to be the most boring housewife in the
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  Speaker 4: history of the franchise of All Cities. You trend it
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  Speaker 4: almost every week with a lot of negative commentary. One
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  Speaker 4: thing I've learned producing reality TV is sometimes social media
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  Speaker 4: can do a.
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  Speaker 3: Toll on your mental health.
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  Speaker 4: When you were going through being called the most boring
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  Speaker 4: housewife in the history, even celebrities would say that about you,
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  Speaker 4: did that do a toll on your mental health and competence?
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  Speaker 1: I would say the part that did the toll for
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  Speaker 1: me was my relationship with production. They felt like almost
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  Speaker 1: like family to me, and I really did anything I
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  Speaker 1: was ever asked, and I moved story, and like I'm
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  Speaker 1: a do go type, so like if you if you
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  Speaker 1: show up to work.
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  Speaker 2: I was never a day late. I did exactly what
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  Speaker 2: I knew that I needed to do.
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  Speaker 1: And then I felt like, and this is not blaming editing,
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  Speaker 1: but I felt like they only showed one portion of
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  Speaker 1: me and that was moving story, which no matter if
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  Speaker 1: that was Denise or vander Pump or whomever it was,
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  Speaker 1: then you didn't see like you wouldn't even have known
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  Speaker 1: that I was.
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  Speaker 2: Pregnant my last season if I didn't have a bump.
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  Speaker 2: They don't show.
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  Speaker 1: Really any other part, and so that I mean, it
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  Speaker 1: was more just like guys, I did so much like
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  Speaker 1: I always was the one, you know, even in Provence,
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  Speaker 1: I was the one that would just make it happen.
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  Speaker 2: And I know that the other women saw that, Like,
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  Speaker 2: That's why everybody was so bumped when I was when
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  Speaker 2: I left, because.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, no shit, Who're gonna have to do this
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  Speaker 1: ourselves now.
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  Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing that I did for my mental.
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  Speaker 1: Health, which I was spiraling kind of getting the hate,
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  Speaker 1: was when I openly said that I was fired.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't supposed to do that.
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  Speaker 1: I was not allowed to say that I was fired,
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  Speaker 1: and I did, and that took a lot of light
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  Speaker 1: because I didn't want to be like, oh, I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to spend more time with my family and make up
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  Speaker 1: something like all the other house I've decided to step
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  Speaker 1: away to.
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  Speaker 4: Focus on my business. You got in trouble for being
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  Speaker 4: honest about being fired.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you're not supposed to.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to get in trouble now,
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  Speaker 1: but ideally you all have noticed all of the housewives
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  Speaker 1: prior to my making that type of announcement. All did
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  Speaker 1: a very vague announcement, like it was both of our
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  Speaker 1: decisions to mutually move on. It's like those BS divorce posts,
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  Speaker 1: like we're moving on.
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  Speaker 2: As best friends, but you know, come on, But I
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  Speaker 2: just couldn't. I was getting like so much in social media.
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  Speaker 2: It was like my publics like, you can't do it.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: You have to just say, And then I was like, no,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: I have to say I got fired.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: And then thankfully Andy went on.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Radio Andy or whatever it was and was like, it
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: was actually very rushing that a housewife actually took ownership
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: over the fact that she did get fired.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: Was this the network of the production company wanting you
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: to say otherwise?
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Nobody actually had the conversation with me, but they had conversations.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: So it's with my representatives. But I can't really say who.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: But it's it's a given. So now you're starting to
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: see it, like you see Noela and Jen. Noela posted
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: that she was fired. Jen did the standard you know,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: it's not you, it's me.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: The dance yeah and after you because Tamra is like you,
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: She's so honest.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: She was even like I was fired, yeah, but.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: I think wasn't tam just emotive and then decided to.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, right, you're right, So that's the difference.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: Wow, you know what, Teddy, I never knew that because
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: when I was producing Other Cities and I knew when
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: we're getting fired, I never knew that was the case.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: But you're right.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: Every single Housewife, especially have released a statement that was like,
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: the show is moving in a different direction, but I'm
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: honored to whatever, and it's like, girl, you got fired.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: But that's the reason why I've always liked you, because
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: you were somebody on the show.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: And this is me speaking as a producer.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: I always noticed that if it wasn't for you, things
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: would not be happening. And I feel like Kyle is
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: now being the one that has to get story moving
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: by calling people out and blurting things out. If it
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: wasn't for you, Teddy saying to Denise Richards that look,
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say it. Brandy Lambrielle said, you guys
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: had sex. You were always the one that brought things out,
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: the same thing with exposing Lisa banda pump, because I
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: feel like the other women were too scared to do
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: it because of the backlash from the LVP stands. But
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: you always stood your ground, and I've always appreciated that.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: Knowing that you were the one doing that, did you
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: feel like, well, shit, I'm the one that's making things happen.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: My job is cemented.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Well, I thought my job was cemented because I had
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: already one. I was pregnant my last season, and I
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: still did all the things. But I started having an
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: idea when I was watching the show back and I
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: saw that so many things weren't in there, and I
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: was like, this is not great for me. This is
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: and I started feeling like a little bit of nervous energy.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: But they I mean, I'd had my meeting to go back,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: so I was like.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, I guess I am good. And then I found
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: out on daily mail that I was like.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Oh what wait, no one called you.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Well, I was on the treadmill or the bike or whatever,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: and a friend of mine sent it to me and
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I was like, no, come on, I think we started
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: filming in two weeks.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Or whatever it was.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: And then I called my reps and I'm like, what
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: the hell what is this And they're like, oh, we
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: were going to call you today. We knew you were,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: you know, on vacation with your family. This weekend, and
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: we didn't want to say anything, but we didn't think
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: it would be leaked this early, and I was like, wow, great,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I loved finding it out this way.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Hold up, Teddy, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Now I'm getting a little pissed off.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: Wait a second, because from my experience as a creator
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: of reality TV and somebody who's produced a lot of shows,
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: typically when a cast member gets the boot, the first
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: person you call is that cast member. You don't call
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: the reps, the attorneys. You damn should only fucking daily mail.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: No one gave you a courtesy phone call.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: No, but you have to also remember my main producer,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: who honestly I love so much, wasn't there anymore either,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: so we all it happened at the same time for
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: both of us. So I don't know, but I still
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, I love Evolution, I love Bravo. I for
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: years I didn't even want to talk about Housewives because
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: I had so much I don't know, like remorse about
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: some of the things that I.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Did or for a job. And then I realized, no,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: I've got to make lemons and eliminated. People want to
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: hear it. I'm a good shit talker.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I am a know it all, Like, these are skills
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: that I have and I'm going to use it, and
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: that's why I do the podcast. And then you know,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: we see what I could do do. I wish I
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: would have done certain things differently do. I wish when
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I was in that room with Lisa vander Pump confronting her,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: we would have got John Blizzard on the phone at
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: that moment. Yes, rookie mistakes, but ultimately it is what
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry to hear that.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: Just so you guys know, when I had to fire people,
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: I would call them myself because I'm the owner of
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: the production company and I care so much about my
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: cast that I would volunteer and say it's best if
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: it comes from me, because at the end of the day,
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: no one likes.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: To get fired.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: I don't care if you're a housewife, a reality star,
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: a PA.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: An, executive producer. No one likes to be fired.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: So to me, it's always nice to hear that from
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: somebody who represents the company.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: But again, all good. I'm just saying that's my opinion.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I think it actually was my reps telling them wait,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: she's on vacation with her family. Wait till Monday, and
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: then some I don't know how it was leaked, but
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: it was leaked.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: So I don't know it was necessary.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I still have a good relationship with the production, so
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was them not wanting to tell me.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I think it was my reps trying to protect me
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: because there was a lot going on at that time.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: Does it bother you or do you have an opinion?
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: I should say the fact that you were not asked
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: back because of whatever reason. But you have someone like
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Dart who was still on the show and she brings
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: nothing to it. Are you surprised that Derie has lasted
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: as long as she's had without having a storyline since
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: her second season.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I'm not surprised because I think that she shows a
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: certain level of lifestyle that a lot of people that
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: watch Beverly Hills want to see that I was incapable
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: of bringing.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: I'm still incapable of bringing. Even though I have more
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: money now and I dressed differently.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: People always like you changed you dressed it really Yeah,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I can afford it now. When I first started, I
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: had no money and you get paid shit your first
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: season on housewives, and my business was small like I
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: had a you know, enough that I could go out
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: to dinner on my own and not like have to
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: use my husband's credit card. But by no means was
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I personally well, I was borring my friend's clothes my
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: first season, So she is able to bring it in
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: that aspect where one, I don't have style like that too,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I don't have interest.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to spend hours and hours in glam.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I will get glammed, but like right now today, I
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: threw on a dress it's comfy and put dry.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Shampoo in my hair. That's my level of capability.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: So Derese on the show because she brings fashion.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: I think she brings fashion, she brings lifestyle.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: She's over the top, and I think that even though
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: maybe this season or the last whatever it is, I
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: didn't really watch last season until I started getting paid
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: to watch and it took a little break.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: But she had three really bad years, so like maybe
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: she's getting a little reprieve.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: What do you mean by that?
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Like three years were like I mean they were hard
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: years as the fans coming for her.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad you said that because I said that.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: People think I'm hard.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: On to read and I'm going to tell you why
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: as somebody who obviously worked with her. Derey's first two seasons,
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: she was super iconic, one of the best housewives I've
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: seen in a very long time. I loved de read
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: so much, and I don't do this to a lot
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: of housewives, especially the new ones. I posted Derey on
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: my feed, not the story, but my feed and said
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: my caption was she is everything. Because Derey came in
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: and she was a force to be reckoned with. She
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: was in Lisa Renna's face, she was in like in
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Erica's face on the boat. She made Erica Jane cry.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: She was everything her first two seasons. And what I
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: have said Teddy and I would love to get your
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: advice on it as someone who was her coworker and
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: you're still her friend. I said that social media ruined
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: to read because I feel like she's so afraid to
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: be herself, because she's afraid of the comments on social media.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: So what she does is distracts the audience by her
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: elaborate wardrobe. She looks pretty on the outside, but the
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: inside is an abandoned house.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I think this is something that I really wish that
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I could address because when I am watching the show.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: I don't watch the show to see women getting along
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: and all I watch reality television to escape from my life,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: you know, Like that's it's like why I watch Murder Mysteries.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I don't watch Murder Mysteries because you know, I'm trying
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: to get ideas on how to kill people. I watch
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Murder Mysteries because it's an escape and then you zone
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: out for whatever reason.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I have a sickness, I fall asleep to Murder Mysteries.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: But like, I think that people.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Are so brutal on Twitter online that it really does
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: start to take a toll on you. And I think
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: where it kind of made a shift for her is
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: remember when we were at dinner at Kyle's old house
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: and I think I forget the exact line, but d
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: called Camille a cunt and then people just kind of
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: like that was the last time I really saw to
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: like lose it, lose it, and then people just kind
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: of went after her, and like she wasn't even being
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: serious there. She just wanted the dinner to end, and
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: she was like a you know, like she wasn't actually
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: calling her that, and then I just think she just,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: you know, it is what it is and she's like,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: after you get burnt, after you do the dirty work
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: for so many years, you take a step back. But
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I can say this, and I know I truly liked
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Dad and PK's seeing this episode where they talk about
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: PK's DUI, I thought it was the most authentic I've
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: seen them as a couple. I thought it was a
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: real conversation you would have with your husband. You felt
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: the heartbreak, you felt all of it. And I appreciated
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: that because I don't know that I've seen that with them.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: I appreciated that happening, and I even text her I said, listen,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: that was a I know it was really hard, but
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: that was a really good scene because it felt real.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: We'll be right back after some quick asss.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: Let's get back into my conversation with Teddy memaicap.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the other women on Beverly Hills.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, so what other continuous storylines are you seeing throughout
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: season to season?
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: Kyle Richards to me is my personal favorite housewife. Kyle
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: this season is making me annoy but it's fine, it's TV,
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: But I still love her.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: I think Kyle is great.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Kyle is consistent about her her stores, her fashions, her
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: desires to do that, her desires still be in the
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: acting realm Erica Jane consistent with this music career up
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: until this lawsuit that happened. But you're seeing this evolution
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: of Erica Jane that Sorry, guys, I'm enjoying it. Lisa
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: Rena is there to be a villain and she owns
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: it and she wears her crown like no other. And
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: now Garcel has now understood the assignment and she is fantastic.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: I know, where was this Garcel? Where was this Garcel?
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: When I was on?
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: People think that I am like hating on Garcell because
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I say, like, where was she his first season? You
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: have to remember her first season she was crying at
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: the table because she felt like the girls weren't empowering
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: each other. I'm like, you're not real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: This isn't what it's about. Like, and now she has
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: the really great confessionals, she's able.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: To throw it.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: You know, like I wish that I would have witnessed
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: that Garcel.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: No, because Garcia tell us this again, just like I
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: gave you the credit of being a first season housewife
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: who's trying to get her group going. Garcel obviously was
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: on the set of Coming to America. She came in
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: through Lisa and Denise, and I think she was just
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: trying to get her groove. I think Garcel has now
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: understood because she said this publicly. I haven't famous since
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: I was a teenager. This housewife shit is a different
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: type of thing that I have never experienced. And I
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: think by Garcel being a woman color in Hollywood of
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: a particular age, this is her second win in life,
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: and I think now she's owning it and she's able
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: to be great. But the reason why I think the
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: other women are great. Like I said, Lisa, Renna never
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: has a storyline, but I'm fine with it because she
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: is a villain and I want to read to make
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: a choice. Either you're going to not have a storyline
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: because you're a villain, or give us something else to
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: sink our teeth into, which is why a lot of people,
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: which I disagree, but a lot of people out that
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: Dereit orchestrated this robbery to get a storyline. And I
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: know personally that you actually were there that morning that
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: you got the phone call.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I've never seen somebody so just struck like.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I've never seen her like that.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: She's always I mean, she's the housewife that no matter
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: how bad anybody was fighting, you couldn't you couldn't get
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: a tear out of her eye. And when we went
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: over there, and for the record, it wasn't the day
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: that they filmed. Everyone's like toy they edited you out.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: I'm like, now, I was there a different morning. I
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: wasn't there with cameras. I was there right when it
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: first happened, along with.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Erica, Renna Kyle, and it was heartbreaking to witness.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: And I think that aftermath is sometimes hard to watch
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: because then you're just seeing so much of it in
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: the confessionals. You know, people get over it, even though
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: you personally won't be over it.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: It was a traumatic thing that happened in your life.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: But if you're talking about something over and over and
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: over again, it's going to come in authentic. Yeah.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: No, I believe she was robbed.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: And my prayers and heart goes out to the read
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: PK and their family. You brought up Camille and obviously
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: recalling her a c next Tuesday, Camille is someone who has.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: A hard on for you.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: She thinks you're super boring, super uninteresting. She told you
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: to your face.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: To shut it down.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: Shut it down, Teddy, Why does Camille hate you so much?
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: The interesting thing about Camille is my first season, Camille
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: was all up on like she was sitting trying to
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: sit next to me on the plane, next me at dinner,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: like she was all about me. And then I think
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: what ended up happening was I formed authentic relationships with
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: the other women and she couldn't take it.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and we saw that because her last reunion where
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: she you know, listened, she was going total toe with everybody.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: One of the scenes that year was you guys were
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: at a dinner scene.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: With Lisa, Rena's mom. Lois made you Rest in Peace,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: where for the first time, the.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: Subject of politics came up on a House live show
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: in regards to Bret Kavanaugh being nominated as Supreme Court justice,
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: and Camille obviously said things where she you know, not
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: only words her mouth, but she supported Brett Kavanaugh, which
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: is her American right. There was rumors that at the
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: reunion she said something along the lines of I'm not
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: going to apologize for being white. Do you think that
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: was part of the reason why she wasn't asked back.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I think that was part of the reason, But I
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: also think it was because she was too She would
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: because she was so dramatic inscene about something and then
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: with backtrack off camera.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: You can't make a show like that, Like if I'm.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: An ask whole, I'm going to be an asshole consistently,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Like I'm not going to run up and see you
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: at the mall and give you a huge hug and
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: be like you look so beautiful, Like I'm going to
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: be like hey and keep it moving like we're not
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: getting along. I'm not gonna go kiss your ass off
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: camera and then so it feels weird, I'm going to
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: keep it consistent to what I'm actually feeling.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: And that was not who she was.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Like even to this day, she sent me a DM
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know a little while ago, just like, Hey,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to let you know that the reason
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: all of this happened between me and you was because
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Chris Cullen pushed me so that we would.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Have a story.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, you can't say that you either, do
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: like I'm never yes, do I know that I moved
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: story along, but it was all my choice. Nobody pushed
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: me to do anything. I just you know, stuff I
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: ultimately did and believed in, but nobody made me do it.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: I made the choice to do it.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: It's the cheapest trick in the book to blame the
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: producer for something you said. And I always tell people like,
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: why do you think these women have no mind.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: Of their own? That they're these empty.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: You know, shells of themselves in terms of like, oh,
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: I'm a puppet, So what did you say, Oh, I'm
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: gonna do it because you took like these all realities
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: have a mind on their own. If you're a producer
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: who may suggest like, oh, bring this though, or talk
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: about that, do you know how many times you're shut
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: down like I don't know, I don't want to bring
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: up something to happen on camera, or I don't know,
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: I don't want to do that. No one forces a
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: reality start to say things. And I always tell people
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: what we do as producers. If you say things in
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: another scene on camera, then we would like for you
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: to bring up around the women and not just hide
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: behind your confessionals because you're too scared to be confronted.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: So Yeah, that's that's Unfortunately, something they would they.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Would say to me, which made a lot of sense, was.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Teddy, if if you're feeling something, you have a choice
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: as a housewife to either say it to their face
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: or say it behind their back, Like that's that's what
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: you signed up for. What is it that you want
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: to do? And I always chose two people's faces.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: But that's why you.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Also would see me be so uncomfortable sometimes because in
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: real life sometimes you just.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Talk shit about people and there's no repercussions for it.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: But all of a sudden you are having like your
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: moral compass is there, and I'm like, all right, I'm
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: gonna have to say something to this person right now
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: that probably naturally I would want to say, not because
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: nobody's because somebody's making me do it, It's because I don't.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Want the alternative.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be the person that talks badly
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: in a confessional and then is kiss.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: As to your face.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: So that's why you would see me sometimes just having
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: to pull it out of myself.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: So let's get into this current season of the Real
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: House Spots of Beverly Hills. What is your grade for
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: this season thus far?
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: And I'll give you my grade.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it is a B minus.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: You're my sister from another mister.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I think there are great scenes, excellent scenes, there are
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: moments that are great.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: But what I'm missing from this.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Is true, authentic friendships throughout. I think why some of
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: the shows are so great, like you know where Jersey.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Can be so great.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Why OC did not work this year is because none
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: of them were friends and you can feel it. And
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: I feel like this cast is so disjointed that yes,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: there are great moments and there's drama, and but there's
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: not like.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: It feels like everybody's trying to be on their own show.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Like this isn't the blah blah show, this is the
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Real Housewives. You're all a team. Let's go, let's figure
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: it out. But you don't feel that like Diana is.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Like phoning it in. She doesn't want to be there.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: You're like, you know, it's hard.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Yes, I concur I give it a B minus.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: There's great moments, but overall, I also think that this
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: jointedness comes from the fact that these stories aren't making sense.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: So the examples I would give is this Garcel is
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: showing God and showing God and I appreciate it. My
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: feeling is these women don't like Garcel in real life.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: I just don't think they like her, and I don't
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: think gars like these women. I think Garcel have a
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: friendship of convenience, and I think the other women not
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: saying they don't like as a person, I want to say,
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: I just don't think they are interested in investing a
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: real friendship with her.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: I kind of disagree with you. I think that everybody
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: when Garcel first came on, was very welcoming to Garcel,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: and she was in a situation with Denise where I
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: think when they first came on, they really thought it
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: was like an acting set, Like Denise would ask like
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: where craft services was, and I'm like.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: We don't have a crass service.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Stick some almonds in your purse and like desperado, like
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: you'll be eating like this. There's no break, like we
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: need a break, there's no breaks, like you know, they're
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: used to being on acting sets.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: There's nothing like that. So I think they all.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Saw this certain side of Garcel that seemed very you know,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: kind and like not wanting to be involved in it.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: And I think that's still what you see inn scene
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: with Garcel for the most part, and it's a lot
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: done in her confessionals. That is, I think she's an
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: excellent healthwife. And do I think her confessionals are great?
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: But do I think that she's exactly the same person
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: in the scene with the women as she is in
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: her confessionals?
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Know?
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: And do I think that they know that?
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: And that's the problem. You know what you're.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Gonna get when it comes to Renna. She's going to
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: say it to your face. She's going to say in
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: her confessionals, love for or hate her?
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: I agree with you somewhat, but I disagree with you
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: in other ways. I think Garcel has now been more
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: in your face this season. I think she has done
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: a formidable job at checking Kyle. Kyle, I'm not talking
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: to you. Why are you in this Kyle Midra business,
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: or Diana you're being a mean woman. Fuck this, or Erica,
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: don't talk to my son like this. So I think
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: she's definitely much more comfortable. I think last season she
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: was definitely hiding behind her confessionals, but I think this
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: season she's coming up more in your face, which is
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: why when Erica Jane told her son to shut the
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: fuck up and you, being a mom of children, what
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: did you think about that?
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: I think, and I got hell for this, but I'm.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Going to be straightforward.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: I think there's no excuse for that type of behavior.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Absolutely no excuse. I am not making an excuse for it.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: If she would have said that to my kids, I
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: would have lost it. I would have been probably way
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: more aggressive than she was in that moment, because your
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: mama bear comes out and you just want to protect
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: your kids.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: When people brought race into that and saying that these
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: women are gaslighting Garsel, you being on the show, you
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: having a closer relationship with these women than any of
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: us have, because obviously we're viewers, including myself.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: I'm a viewer.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: I never met any of these women, so I only
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: can judge based on what I'm seeing. I do feel
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: like these women gas like Garcila at times. Is that
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: something that you also see knowing the relationship and knowing
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: these women.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I think every single one of these women at one
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: point or another, if you're not super close to somebody,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: you're baiting each other to create the drama so you
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: don't have to in hopes that the viewers will not.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Notice that it's you doing it.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: And I would say that goes across the board for
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: every single show that.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: You watch on All Housewives, when people bring race into
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: these discussions, I.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Personally wouldn't be able to comment on something that I
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: don't one hundred percent know about, but I can. I
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: don't ever want to minimize how somebody else may feel during.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: It one one hundred percent.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: And that's the reason why I love talking to you,
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: because listen, you and I are friends.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Meet you and Tam are friends.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: And I had Megan McCain on my podcast, and one
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: thing that I appreciated about my conversation with Megan was
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: the fact that she was so honest about like, look,
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: I am a privileged white woman, and when people bring
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: race into the conversations, I had to sit back and
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: listen because I don't know that world. I don't know
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: what it's like to be a black woman through the
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: lens of whatever situation we're in. And that was a
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: beautiful conversation that she and I had, and it actually
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: made people way more aware of Megan's sensibility about race,
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: and that was so beautiful about her and that's the
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: reason why I just wanted to bring it up with
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: you because one thing I know is the fact that
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: these are your real friends, and I also know that
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: forty two minutes of an episode, they're not going to
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: tell the whole story in terms of a scene or
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: a relationship or friendship. A lot of people did bring
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: that up, and it also was something that we talked
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: about on a podcast where people were saying, well, you know,
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: Lisa Rena last season allegedly made a comment that you know,
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: this show should not bring a race because it's not
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: our show, just like some people say, don't bring politics
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: into Housewives because we want to, like you said earlier,
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: escape and see people fight and be messy. Do you
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: think there's a time and a place for those type
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: of conversations although we're on a reality show.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: I think if it comes down to we can talk
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: about Crystal with the eating disorder, because that's I can
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: openly talk about that in a way that I understand
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: a little bit more. Do I think that that was
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: a very uneducated thing for some of those women to
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: say to Crystal, considering she has an eating disorder and
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: is talking about.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: That on the show.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Do I think that.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: It's a learning opportunity to figure out as watching. Yes,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: do I think that somebody should be canceled because they
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: made such a mistake. No, I think we have to
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: be able to learn from our mistakes.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: So if we're talking the eating.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Disorder and we're talking about Erica saying the laxatives common,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: she probably had no idea.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: That laxatives were tied to eating disorders.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: But I think that as housewives we have to remember
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: people are going to make mistakes, especially people from all
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: different walks of life. I do think that we have
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: to learn from each other, and we have to learn
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: when to be quiet. And the problem is, on housewives,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: you're not paid to be quiet. You're paid to make
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: mistakes and you're paid to step in it, and you're
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: paid to create drama. And now, because people can so
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: quickly not be given the opportunity to learn from their.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Mistakes, it's scary for some people. Does that make.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: Sense, No, it does, And listen, I will say this
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: to you. One of the most special scenes last season
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: was when Garcel was at the table with the women
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: and she had an emotional moment and she says something
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: along the lines of, you know, you guys don't know
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: what it's like being the only black woman in a
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: room full of white women. It's just it makes people uncomfortable.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: Again I'm paraphrasing. I will say this to you. As
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: a black person who grew up being the first black
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: man to produce a Housewives franchise, I related to that
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: story because there is this sort of uncomfortableness that you
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: have when you're sometimes the only one in a room,
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: and as you continue to excel in your career, you're oftentimes,
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: as a black person.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: Going to be the only one in the room.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: And the one thing that we try to do is
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: make sure that we're there because we're meant to be there,
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: but we're not there because we're fitting some quota. And
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: I just think ourself at that moment was navigating through that.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: And that's why I think this season she's much more
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: comfortable because she now just understands her place in Housewives,
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: and I think she's now able to just be more
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: present and seen. So thank you for allowing us to
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: have that conversation, because this isn't about, like you said,
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: canceling anybody. For us, it's more so about having real
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: conversations about what's happening in the real world. And I
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: tell people all the time I watched a view to
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: give my politics and to get worly news and events.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: I watch Housewives to see a bunch.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: Of women have a caddy moment, fashion be friends, drink
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: it up, and you know, that's what I personally want
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: to see.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: But I think that you know.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: When last year, when that happened at dinner, I think
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: they everybody was able to use that.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: As a learning opportunity.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: I think you even hear Kathy though, like you know,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: she's kind of said something, and then they all talked
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: about it, and I felt like that was a very
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: good conversation. I think it's also difficult when you do
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: know how somebody's feeling, but then you also know and
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: you and you your heart, you don't want to cause
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: a problem with them because you don't want to cause
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: a problem with anybody regardless.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: But then it does come on.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: The show, and then you have people on social media
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: saying it's because of this.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Like, I think that's what's hard. I mean, you if
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: you're on a show to one million percent that happening
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: last season, I think.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: That was teachable moment. I think that was huge. I
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: appreciated hearing that from Garcell. But if on next week's episode,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Garcel and Crystal getting a fighter who knows what happens.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: That's where it's hard for me.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's it's it's it's separate.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, as long as it's separate, I think we
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: should one million percent be talking about how somebody feels,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: especially in a group of friends of people who aren't
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: the only person in the room.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: I have to say a lot of people will always say, listen,
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: your podcast is so funny because we see a side
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: of you and hear a side of you that we
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: did not get a chance to see on Bibley Hill's Housewives.
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: This teddy that we get to see now would have
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: been nice to see on the show if you were
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: given the chance to show that side of you. Because
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: I get that sometimes they listen, don't have forty two
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: minutes to show eight women, So I get that the
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: odds may not have been your favor, But what what
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: can fans expect from you? Is there a chance for
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: us to see you back on reality TV?
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: You know I would be.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Game for I'm open and I enjoy entertaining. I enjoy
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: I enjoy talking, I enjoy getting involved in all of it.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: I do know that I would do it differently, and
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: for that aspect, I hope there. I hope there's something
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: that fits where you can kind of show all aspects.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, I told you even when I had Monique
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: on my pod, how much I enjoyed watching her being
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: able to see all of her sides, regardless if it's
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: a fight with her husband or her friend or whatever.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: I really enjoyicing the full circle, which sometimes because there's
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: you know, in Housewives, just about the friend group drama
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: that you don't see everything else. That's what I want
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: to be a part of, a portion of seeing the
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: full life, because listen, it's real that not every day
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: you're gonna wake up and be in the world's best
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: relationship with your husband, or you're gonna get frustrated with
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: your kids, or no matter what it is, those things
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: are going to happen. But then you're also going to
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: have some great days and you're gonna feel excellent, and
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be thriving and you're gonna like.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: So I would love.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: To be able to show the good, the bad, and
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: the ugly in some capacity because I love watching reality
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: television and I think there's more to show.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: And I also think there's more to show in regards
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: to a woman.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Who started, I mean I started on reality TV, like
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: really just trying to figure it.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Out, one step from one foot in front of the other.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: And now I have a business of twenty thousand clients
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: and like.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: My life has transformed because of a reality television show
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: and I will never forget that.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Where can we follow you? Support you?
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: You can follow me at Teddy Mellencamp and if you
• 48:47
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• 48:49
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• 48:50
  Speaker 2: You can listen wherever you hear podcasts.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: And if you're wanting to make any sort of lifestyle change,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: people always tease me about that being held accountable, but
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: it's about being accountable to changing your life to fill
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: your best which we're not all going to have great days.
• 49:03
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