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Furness Show 8-26: Stewart Mandel, Jamey Vinnick, John Lund · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star-Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KKR-FM Sports Headlines.
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  Speaker 2: Brought to you by Frostbrood Coors Light Chews Chilled. George
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  Speaker 2: Kirby dominant last night. Cal Raleigh homered again. M's beat
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  Speaker 2: the Phillies 4-1. They've taken the first two games of
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  Speaker 2: the series. Cal tied a team record with home runs
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  Speaker 2: and four straight at-bats going back-to-back Monday night's game. Kirby
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  Speaker 2: gave up one run on four hits, struck out nine
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  Speaker 2: in seven and two-thirds. M's now two-and-a-half back in the
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  Speaker 2: AL West. They look to complete the sweep of the
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  Speaker 2: Phillies later on today. Brian Wu takes the mound. Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: returned to practice in Renton yesterday in their trip to Tennessee.
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  Speaker 2: As expected, Bud Clark, Mason Richman placed on injury reserve
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  Speaker 2: into their seasons. Nicky Minori had his second practice in cleats.
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  Speaker 2: Separate from the team, but he was out there. Jadarian
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  Speaker 2: Price was a full go. No starters expected to play
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  Speaker 2: Friday in the final preseason game against Kansas City. NFL
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  Speaker 2: owners will vote later on today to sell the Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: for $ 9. 6 billion to a group led by Vinod Khosla.
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  Speaker 2: That's today in Atlanta. 24 of 32 owners are needed
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  Speaker 2: to prove. It's a rubber stamp, folks. It's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I'll spend a ton of time on
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  Speaker 2: it today because it's still the unknown.
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  Speaker 3: Who knows?
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  Speaker 2: I can tell you this. I don't think that that
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  Speaker 2: family is Tom Dundon.
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  Speaker 3: Blazer fans.
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  Speaker 2: The SEC has joined the Big Ten in prohibiting players
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  Speaker 2: who have been drafted by the NFL, NBA, or WNBA
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  Speaker 2: but on a roster of teams in those leagues. Big
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  Speaker 2: 12 mulling a similar ban. ACC also going to talk
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  Speaker 2: about that. We'll get into that. Stuart Mandel coming up
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  Speaker 2: in 20 minutes.
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  Speaker 3: Here we go.
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  Speaker 2: Ian Furness with you. Happy to be back with you. Yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: Mike Benton filling in. I was at an event for
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  Speaker 2: our show sponsors, Snoqualmie Casino and Hotel. They had their
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  Speaker 2: annual golf outing out at Newcastle. Had a great afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: Purple Sheet, me, sales guy Rory, and the big boss man, Marshall.
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  Speaker 2: Big boss man.
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  Speaker 1: Nice.
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  Speaker 2: Was out there. How'd you guys hit? We finished four
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  Speaker 2: under in a four-man scramble, so we just were just okay.
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  Speaker 2: Middle of the pack.
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  Speaker 4: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 2: Anybody that's ever played a four-man scramble or a scramble
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  Speaker 2: knows there's always a little sketchiness going on. There were
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  Speaker 2: seven teams that were 10 under or better on our side.
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  Speaker 2: We played Cold Creek. Now, it's a four-man scramble, but
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  Speaker 2: I want to keep something in mind. No string for
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  Speaker 2: putts and no mulligans. The winning score was like 15 under,
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  Speaker 2: I think.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Where the pins were yesterday, I'm not buying it. Not
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  Speaker 2: buying it at all. Not that we were in contention.
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  Speaker 2: We were just okay.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, really?
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, we had a great time. A really good time.
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  Speaker 2: Good to see our friends. Our friends at Snow Columbia Casino,
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  Speaker 2: huge supporters of the radio station and the show. So
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  Speaker 2: we really appreciate what they do for us. Big shout
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  Speaker 2: out to my friend Amanda and Julie and the entire
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  Speaker 2: marketing and promotions team out there. Those guys are great.
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  Speaker 2: Go see them. We had a great dinner afterwards, which
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  Speaker 2: allowed me To cruise into the old sportsbook or use
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  Speaker 2: my old app on premise. College football action in on
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  Speaker 2: this weekend. Let's go.
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  Speaker 3: Nice.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go. May have also put a little juice on
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  Speaker 2: our local baseball team last night. That paid off. Thank
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  Speaker 2: you very much. We can start there. We'll get into
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  Speaker 2: some college football. A lot of college football today. Len's
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  Speaker 2: going to join us at 2, and we'll check in
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  Speaker 2: with Jamie Vinnick at 1.20. But, Travis, I don't like
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  Speaker 2: to be the guy that said, I told you so. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'm lying.
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  Speaker 3: I do.
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  Speaker 4: I really do.
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  Speaker 2: The odd time I'm right.
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: You've been, you've filled in enough on this show to know,
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  Speaker 2: have I not said all along this team is still
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  Speaker 2: in it and why are we still freaked out? Like
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  Speaker 2: I've been, I've been pretty consistent with that. A hundred percent.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And it's, it, there's still five games under 500. There's
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  Speaker 2: still just kind of a blah team, but the problem
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  Speaker 2: is not the problem, but the good thing is in
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  Speaker 2: this year's American league, everybody not named Tampa Bay, the Yankees,
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  Speaker 2: And I guess to a certain extent, probably the White Sox,
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  Speaker 2: or I'm sorry, the Red Sox, everyone's just kind of so-so.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the White Sox are six games above.
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  Speaker 3: 500.
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  Speaker 2: Cleveland's, they're okay. They're above.
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  Speaker 5: 500.
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  Speaker 2: But if you just look at the winning percentage in
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  Speaker 2: this league, Like, everyone's just kind of bad. Pretty soggy.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: It's just soggy. I mean, it's, what is it? So
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  Speaker 2: Houston's 500. So there's one, two, three, four, five. There's
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  Speaker 2: only five teams in the American League that are above 500.
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  Speaker 2: And Cleveland's only one game above 500. So really, if
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  Speaker 2: you want to look at it, there's four teams that
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  Speaker 2: are very much clear of 500. Everyone else in this league,
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  Speaker 2: in the American League, is at 500 or below 500.
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  Speaker 2: we talked about this the other day. If the Mariners were,
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  Speaker 2: and all these teams were in the National League, they'd
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  Speaker 2: be eight and a half out of the wild card.
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  Speaker 6: Right?
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  Speaker 2: We would have given up probably. You would have given
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  Speaker 2: up a long, long time ago. There's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
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  Speaker 2: eight teams above 500 in the National League. A ninth, St.
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  Speaker 2: Louis is one game under, and they have No shot.
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  Speaker 2: They're 15 and a half out of a playoff spot,
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  Speaker 2: five out of the wildcard spot with a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: traffic in front. The American League is allowing Seattle to
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  Speaker 2: be in it. That's why we've got faith and we're
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  Speaker 2: back in it. Listen, if you lost faith, I have
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  Speaker 2: to question your fandom. I really do. I've got to
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  Speaker 2: question your fandom. Because this isn't like the NFL. The
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  Speaker 2: NFL is a really simple thing. You look– there's two
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  Speaker 2: columns in the NFL. Well, there's three, but the third
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  Speaker 2: one is the ties, and that rarely matters, okay?
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: There's two columns in the NFL. The left-hand column wins.
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  Speaker 2: The right-hand column losses. In the National Football League, it's
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  Speaker 2: really simple to look at it and say, that right-hand column,
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  Speaker 2: the one that says L, losses, you can't get above
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  Speaker 2: a certain point because historically, even in a weird– you're
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  Speaker 2: not getting in.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You're just not getting in.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: 10-7 is kind of the Mendoza line. Maybe you can
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  Speaker 2: get in as a wildcard team with seven losses. Maybe.
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  Speaker 2: Not every year. Seahawks had 10 wins two.
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  Speaker 4: Years ago, right?
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  Speaker 2: McDonald's first year. So your Mendoza line is probably more
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  Speaker 2: like 11-6. You probably need to be five games above
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  Speaker 2: 500 in the NFL. Baseball's not that way. There's so
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  Speaker 2: many more games. And it just doesn't matter. You can
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  Speaker 2: be blah, and it doesn't matter. You can screw around
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  Speaker 2: all year, and it doesn't matter this year. And with
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  Speaker 2: the increased wildcard situation, six teams, six out of 15
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  Speaker 2: make the playoffs, you've got a decent chance if you're
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  Speaker 2: just kind of hanging around. As long as you're not
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  Speaker 2: the Royals, the A's, or the Angels, you still have
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  Speaker 2: a fighting chance. Now, you have to do something and
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  Speaker 2: get warm at some point, and now they've done that.
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  Speaker 2: Now they've done exactly that. Has Cal really found it?
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  Speaker 2: Have four months changed in four or five days? I
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  Speaker 2: will question that. I wonder about that. He's on a heater.
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  Speaker 2: He's feeling it. Absolutely. Now, here's the good news. There's
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  Speaker 2: part of me that says, I want to see more.
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  Speaker 2: What do you want to see more? He's already set
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  Speaker 2: a record of home runs and consecutive at-bats. I get that.
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  Speaker 2: I want to see more over longer period of time
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  Speaker 2: than just a few days at home. Some consistency. But
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  Speaker 2: the good news is this. After today, they go to
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  Speaker 2: Toronto and checking my notes here, he has success in Toronto.
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  Speaker 2: Like a lot of success in that building and against
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  Speaker 2: that team. So it just shows you again where this
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  Speaker 2: team would have been if he would have been okay
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  Speaker 2: this year and not arguably the worst position player in
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  Speaker 2: the They'd probably be running away with this thing right now.
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  Speaker 2: But better late than never. He got it going on
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. Julio, same. Pitching, how about Kirby? It
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  Speaker 2: cannot be lost on us what Kirby did last night.
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  Speaker 2: It cannot be lost. He was fantastic. And on top
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  Speaker 2: of that, durable enough to get you deep into the ballgame. Now,
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  Speaker 2: they won't have Munoz today if they need him. That's
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  Speaker 2: the one thing.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they'd bring him back. He threw like 20-plus, almost
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  Speaker 2: 30 pitches, right? I can't imagine they'd have Munoz today.
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  Speaker 2: But they should be pretty good in shape in the bullpen.
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  Speaker 2: They got a day off tomorrow. They reset for the weekend.
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  Speaker 2: But lo and behold, three games out of a wild card,
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  Speaker 2: and maybe more importantly, and probably not maybe, I think
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  Speaker 2: it is more importantly, just two and a half out
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  Speaker 2: of first place. The Houston Astros hold that spot down
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  Speaker 2: a half game ahead of the Rangers. The Astros, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, are 500. Seattle's five games below 500. But
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  Speaker 2: they're two and a half back right now. So we've
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  Speaker 2: talked about it all the time. 82 and 80 probably
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  Speaker 2: gets you in this year. That'd be like the equivalent
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  Speaker 2: of seven and nine 2010 Seahawks getting in. But you're fine.
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  Speaker 2: You're getting in. That's all that matters. There's been conversations.
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  Speaker 2: There's been polls. There's been topics on the radio. Is
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  Speaker 2: it better to get in or is it better just
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  Speaker 2: to kind of screw around? And at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the day, if they don't get in, then they'll make
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  Speaker 2: massive changes. I don't know who asked me that the
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  Speaker 2: other day. It might have been Softie in a crosstalk,
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  Speaker 2: and I think he had a poll. Oh, I know.
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  Speaker 2: I did a little thing with Aaron Levine the other
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  Speaker 2: day on FOX 13. And I said, if you're rooting
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  Speaker 2: for this team not to get in based on the
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  Speaker 2: belief and hope and thought that they're going to make
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  Speaker 2: changes in the front office— And a managerial change, and
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  Speaker 2: that will appease you, and that will make all things right.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're delusional, first of all, because I don't
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  Speaker 2: think Jerry's going anywhere, or Justin. Maybe Dan, but we'll see.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't think that's going to happen. And two,
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  Speaker 2: does that really cure all your ills? But I don't
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  Speaker 2: think this is not organized. that seems to be hell-bent
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  Speaker 2: on making those types of changes even if they don't
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  Speaker 2: get in. So why wouldn't you just root for your
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  Speaker 2: team to get to the playoffs? It makes a lot
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  Speaker 2: more sense to me. If you're a fan, root for
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  Speaker 2: them to get to the damn playoffs. Why would you
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  Speaker 2: root for something else? So that's where they are. Two
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  Speaker 2: quality wins, though. They get Philadelphia, a team that won
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  Speaker 2: nine straight in here, and they beat them twice. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: hottest team in baseball. And you know how hot a
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  Speaker 2: team in baseball is right now since they left for
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  Speaker 2: the Cubs? I think they scored 30 straight runs or
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  Speaker 2: something like that. Yeah, so it's been a hell of
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  Speaker 2: a couple days for this baseball team. And we'll see
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  Speaker 2: what they do today. God, you completely sweep against the Phillies.
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  Speaker 2: And I think you've got to feel really, really good
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  Speaker 2: about yourself heading out on the road where the schedule
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  Speaker 2: is hard for a couple more series and then lightens up. Now,
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  Speaker 2: that's the other thing. I'm trying to be captain positive
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  Speaker 2: for the most part here. Let's be honest about the
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  Speaker 2: other side of it. The, hey, the schedule is really
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  Speaker 2: easy in the month of September. Well, all those teams
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  Speaker 2: are playing are all under 500. And I just mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: I just told you, our team here in Seattle is
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  Speaker 2: five games under 500. So you tell me what the
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  Speaker 2: difference is. It's like playing like is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: It's like versus like. They're the same teams. Maybe Seattle's
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  Speaker 2: got a better roster, got a better pitching staff than
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  Speaker 2: most of these teams. We believe that all year. But
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  Speaker 2: they've got to go out and prove it. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: not chalking up a, you know, what do they have,
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  Speaker 2: 25 games, a 20-5 month of September for these guys
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  Speaker 2: by any stretch of the imagination. But you've got to
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  Speaker 2: beat up on the A's and the Angels. You would
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  Speaker 2: think so. Houston just had problems with them, though. So,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's not a given by any stretch of
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  Speaker 2: the imagination. But the way they're playing right now, They
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  Speaker 2: finish things off today on the right note and go
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  Speaker 2: maybe win a series coming up next. You're going to
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  Speaker 2: have a lot different feeling about this baseball team. But
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  Speaker 2: I would just ask you, why the hell did you
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  Speaker 2: give up in the first place? We've been telling you
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  Speaker 2: all along, look at the numbers. Three out, four out,
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  Speaker 2: five out, two out, one and a half out. It
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  Speaker 2: doesn't matter. They've been in it. They've never been in
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  Speaker 2: the range of like a– you're out of it at
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  Speaker 2: about this time of year, eight or nine out. You
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  Speaker 2: get to double digits out. You're really kind of hooped
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  Speaker 2: at that point. They've never been in that situation. So
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  Speaker 2: why were you thinking they were out? 49451, your thoughts
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  Speaker 2: on the Tacoma Dutch text line. 49451. College football starts
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  Speaker 2: this weekend. They call it Week Zero. We call it
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  Speaker 2: the start of the greatest time of the year, the
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  Speaker 2: fall and football season. Bunch of really good college games. Also,
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  Speaker 2: what the hell's going on with the eligibility? Remember the
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  Speaker 2: guy that did the voice text.
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  Speaker 3: The other day?
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  Speaker 2: He didn't stop complaining. You know who else is complaining?
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  Speaker 2: The SEC and the Big Ten. They shut it down, fella.
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  Speaker 2: They shut it down. Text me back or give me
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  Speaker 2: another talk back, smart guy. We'll hear from Stuart Mandel next.
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  Speaker 1: Now back to Ian Furness on your home for the Huskies, Kraken,
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  Speaker 1: and the 12th man. Brought to you by Seattle's closest
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in. 12 o'clock hour, Ian Furness
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  Speaker 2: with you. And I told you guys at the start
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  Speaker 2: of the show, I want to get some college football
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  Speaker 2: in today. We'll have Jamie Vinnick from CougFan.com will join
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  Speaker 2: us in the 1 o'clock hour. So we'll get to that,
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  Speaker 2: but in the meantime... I was listening to the latest
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  Speaker 2: episode of The Audible this morning, driving in. It was actually,
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  Speaker 2: I think, done yesterday with our friend Stuart Mandel from
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  Speaker 2: The Athletic, who's back for another year with us here
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  Speaker 2: on KJR in Seattle, talking all things college football. You
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  Speaker 2: need to read his stuff at TheAthletic, TheAthletic.com. Mailbag comes
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  Speaker 2: out usually every Wednesday. Also, the Audible podcast with Bruce
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: Feldman and Ralph Russo is fantastic for you college football fans.
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  Speaker 2: And it is, Stuart, it's here. Week zero, but for
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: all intents and purposes, it's week one because there's some
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  Speaker 2: really interesting matchups. I want to get to the on-the-field
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  Speaker 2: stuff in a second, but I know that you know
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  Speaker 2: where I'm going to start. It's what the big chunk
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  Speaker 2: of your show was yesterday before you got to the brackets.
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  Speaker 2: And that is the world that we live in now
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  Speaker 2: in college football. NFL players coming back to play college football,
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  Speaker 2: then the SEC and the Big Ten maybe saying no.
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  Speaker 2: Can you kind of paint the picture? I don't even
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  Speaker 2: know where we're at. I haven't checked the emails and
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  Speaker 2: the sites lately. I don't know where we're at as
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  Speaker 2: we stand here on Wednesday morning, but where are we
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  Speaker 2: with this situation?
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  Speaker 6: So hard to sum these eligibility things up, but basically
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  Speaker 6: there's been a million lawsuits from 2022 recruits who completed
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  Speaker 6: their four years trying to get a fifth year, and
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  Speaker 6: they've been almost entirely successful. One of those cases, just one,
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  Speaker 6: involved a few guys who played at Ole Miss last
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  Speaker 6: year who were already in NFL training camps. One of
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  Speaker 6: them had already played and had two sacks in a
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  Speaker 6: preseason game. And they won an injunction, and the judge
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  Speaker 6: kind of made up this rule on the spot that
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  Speaker 6: if they get out of their contract and they repay
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  Speaker 6: the money, then they can play in college football, which
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  Speaker 6: has never been a rule. It just continues this pattern
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  Speaker 6: that no matter what the NCAA does, they get struck
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  Speaker 6: down in court. But in this case, it's such a,
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  Speaker 6: you know, it reminds me in some ways of the
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  Speaker 6: Brendan Sorsby situation where this is such a deeply held
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  Speaker 6: conviction around college football that once you're a pro, you're
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  Speaker 6: a pro. That the Big Ten and SEC took matters
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  Speaker 6: into their own hands and did so very quickly and
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  Speaker 6: came up with their own restriction on it and said,
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  Speaker 6: you know, nobody's going to be allowed to play in
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  Speaker 6: our conference this year who was already on a preseason
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  Speaker 6: roster or had a contract. And, you know, the obvious
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  Speaker 6: reaction would be, well, then aren't these guys just going
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  Speaker 6: to turn around and sue them? But the various legal
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  Speaker 6: scholars that I've talked to have always felt that conferences
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  Speaker 6: have a better chance of defending that, because even if
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  Speaker 6: somebody can't play in the SEC, there's plenty of other
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  Speaker 6: places where they can play, at least for now. So
• 15:58
  Speaker 6: and of course, the clock is ticking. There's really only.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: About a week left.
• 16:02
  Speaker 6: Before the teams in week one would have to lock
• 16:05
  Speaker 6: in their roster. So this probably, you never say never,
• 16:09
  Speaker 6: but probably rules out those guys who are going to
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: go play for their old coach, Lane Kiffin, at LSU.
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: So far, we haven't seen anything about other schools doing that.
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: Doesn't mean they couldn't still pick up a couple of
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: those players. The Big Ten and SEC rushed to do
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: it because roster cuts are coming in the NFL this weekend,
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: and a whole new flood of guys will suddenly be
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: available to go return to college football, right? So they
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: wanted to cut that off beforehand.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's over a thousand players will be cut on Sunday,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: cut down day to 53 from 90 to 53 in
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: the NFL. We're even familiar with it out here, Stuart. T.J.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Harden and Anthony Hankerson, running backs that were on the
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Seahawks roster in For consecutive weeks, Harden one week, Hankerson
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: the next, were the fourth-string running backs in Seattle. Both
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: requested the release to go back to school and get
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: the transfer portal. Those guys are both going to be
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: blank out of luck now, it sounds like. I think
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: for more of the reason, let's just take, like, I'm
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: not the biggest fan of the Big Ten as a
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Wazoo fan at all, but let's just go down the
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Big Ten route. Do I give them credit because the
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Big Ten stepped up and kind of said no, right?
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: And I think the SEC is, has the SEC officially
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: said no to these guys?
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the chronology was the SEC kind of put out
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: a tersely worded statement two nights ago, but stopped short
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: of actually doing anything about it. And then pretty quickly
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: on Tuesday, the Big Ten came out with their actual
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: rule that their ADs had passed. The SEC, what I
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: will say is theirs is not just football. Theirs applies
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: this as well to NBA and WNBA players. And that's
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: notable because Lane Kiffin was not the only LSU coach
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: recruiting former pros. And in fact- Will Wade, the basketball coach, frankly,
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: I think it's kind of like built half his roster
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: around that model. So the SEC basically stood up and said, no,
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: you're not going to do that.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: I'm shocked that Will Wade's involved, too.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: Actually, I'm not.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: That's as sarcastic as I can possibly be. Yeah, I
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: think it's interesting because you mentioned it, I think, in
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: your mailbag. All these different athletes, I would dare say
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: the WNBA would be at the top of the list
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: if you're a WNBA player. And that's like the hardest
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: league to get into. I mean, there's a limited number
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: of teams, small roster spots. There's a lot of college
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: stars that just don't make it in the WNBA. I mean,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Haley VanVleet is one that just comes to mind. She's
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: a local girl from just across the mountains over in Kashmir.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: And like, yeah, why would you say, well, listen, I'm
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: going to get cut by the WNBA or I got cut.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go right back and get a nice
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: little deal at USC or Don Staley at South Carolina.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: This reaches farther than just football and men's basketball is
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: what you're saying.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: I don't know all the ins and outs of WNBA contracts.
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: I would think once they play in an actual WNBA game,
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: that would be, that would be, you know, you couldn't
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: come back from that. But for instance, this guy, RJ Lewis,
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: who was a star for St. John's a couple of
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: years ago, I think he was, might've been the biggest
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: player of the year.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: He goes into the NBA. He played three preseason games
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: this past year. And then LSU, he committed to LSU
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: before he even had the injunction to go do it. Like,
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: He was granted that injunction, right? Because he only played
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: in the preseason. I mean, never say never. Would a
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: judge let somebody who's actually been in a regular season?
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: Because that hasn't happened yet. There have been G League players.
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: There have been international players. But there hasn't yet been
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: somebody who played in a regular season NBA or NFL
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: or WNBA game who was cleared to come back.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Also shows that those preseason games, we know that out
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: here in the NFL land, mean nothing, and they mean
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: even nothing now because they're not real NFL games according
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: to to these conferences in the NCAA. Stuart Mandel with us.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Let me wrap it up quickly with this because I
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: want to get stuff on the field. This is a
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: 2022 class thing. Are we, it feels blindly naive to think, well,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: it's just going to go away after this year. It's
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: a one and done. Like if you're the 2023, 2024,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: won't there be some guys in those leagues that maybe
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: want to challenge it too?
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, even though this is now, you know, you have
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: conferences standing up, but the fact of the matter is
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: this ironclad rule that existed for all this time that
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: once you, basically once you turn pro in football, if
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: you don't withdraw before that January whatever deadline, you're done.
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: You can never come back to college. And now that
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: that has cracked a little bit, I could absolutely see
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: the next challenge next year being not specific to this
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: five-year rule, just being hey, it's anti-truth, whatever they would
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: say in court, right? That we don't get to go
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: through the draft process and maybe many can't and decide
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: we want to come back the way basketball players can.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: I just think once you start seeing cracks in these rules,
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: then lawyers smell blood and they go after the next
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: version of it.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: It's just crazy. It is crazy to me. Stuart Mandel
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: joining us here from The Athletic. and also the Audible podcast.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: All right, it is week zero, which is still one
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: of the weirdest names I've ever heard. I mean, there's still,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: let's see, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: games involving FBS schools this weekend. So I guess with
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: the amount of schools, maybe that's why it's week zero.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: But there are games. There's actual tangible games this weekend.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Some thoughts on a couple of these. Let me start
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: with North Carolina TCU out here on the West Coast,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: 9 a.m. That game gets going. It's in Dublin, Ireland.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: There's so much in this game. There's Bill Belichick's second year.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: TCU's coming in after kicking their starting safety who replaced
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Seahawks safety Bud Clark. They kicked him off the team
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: for locker room altercation. Then they pulled credentials from the
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: one media outlet that covers them on a regular basis
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: out of Dallas. And North Carolina's got the Bill Belichick thing.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, it's all taking place in Ireland.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I got a lot to talk about. We got a
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: lot to talk about with this game before we get
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: to on the field.
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's all about Belichick, frankly. And I don't
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: know if people have been paying attention. As chaotic as
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: last year was, just this offseason, Steve Belichick, the defensive coordinator,
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: is on medical leave. No signs that he's coming back.
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: Mike Lombardi, the GM, who I think is the single
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: biggest reason they stink, is also on leave pending some investigation.
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: I don't know that it's ever been fully confirmed what
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: he's under investigation for. Um, it's, it's, it's just never ending.
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: That's so proper there. So, um, I'm very fascinated to
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: see what they look like. Obviously they played TCU to
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: open last season. It did not go very well. And
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: it was your first indication that maybe these guys aren't
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: very good. Um, they picked up Billy Edwards who started
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: at Maryland and one game for Wisconsin last year, 40
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: got hurt. That's their quarterback. Now they're a very young
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: and inexperienced team. Um, Never say never, but I fear
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: they might actually be worse than they were last year.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: So we will get a little taste of that on Saturday.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Somewhere Tom Brady's got a smile on his face. You
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: wrote this as a thing, which is really interesting. They're
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: an ACC team, so effectively a power four, unless probably
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: there's kind of the power two, then the next two,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: and then the next five or six. But they have
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: the second least experienced power four team in the country.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: So I don't know if it's their own decision or
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: it's just the way it is, It sounds like when
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I see something like that, that Belichick's not able to
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: get names in, transfers in, like probably they had hoped
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: at North Carolina in the stay and age of NIL
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: and Transfer Portal. If they're that young, that tells me
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: that they've got a lot of young, you know, freshman, sophomore,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: and just high school kids on the team.
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: I don't know if you remember this, and it's the
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: sea of everything that happened at UNC last year, but
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: as it started to get bad, Michael Lombardi– sent a
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: letter to the donors saying, hey, just want to explain
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: our strategy going forward. We're going to go heavily in
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: high school players. You know, be patient. It's going to
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: pay off. But we've decided basically Portal kids are too expensive,
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: so we're going to go heavily in high school. And
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: to which all of our reactions was, really? That's what
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: you're going to do in 2026 when all of your
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: competition is loading up on Portal guys? Not that they
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: didn't get... They did get... some guys out of the
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: portal um they're just not very experienced and i don't
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: know you know the only thing i would say is
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: in this day and age you don't really know like
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: well what's his budget how much money does he actually
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: have to spend on players you know i think unfortunately
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: sometimes these coaches get judged by certain expectations that their
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: hands are tied by how much money the school has
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: to spend on their roster i don't know what unc's
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: is my guess is it's Um, not at the worst
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: of the ACC, but not close to.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: The best of the ACC.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Stuart Mandel joining me. The storyline in NC State, Virginia
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: is an interesting one. So it's, if I'm not mistaken,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: so they're playing in Virginia at Charlottesville. Wasn't that game
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: supposed to be played somewhere else overseas, Brazil or Australia
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: or someplace? And is it actually a non-conference game for
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: these two ACC teams?
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: Um, The game was originally supposed to be in Brazil
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: as a non-conference game. The ACC is transitioning to nine
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: conference games, but this first year, some of them are
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: still playing eight. And that would have been the case
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: for them. Then, for whatever reason, the people in Brazil said,
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: I don't think we can host this game after all.
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: You guys should probably move it back. So it got
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: turned into an actual conference game, a Virginia home game
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: to be exact.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, so I see this record, so 0-0-0-0. So that is, damn,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: you got a conference game on, what is that, August 20,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: whatever the hell it is, August 28th and something, 29th?
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: That's why this is a particularly interesting Week Zero. I
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: look back, Week Zero kind of became a thing in
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: like 2016, 2017, and there's never been two P4 versus
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: P4 games. So, you know, these are games I'll definitely
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: be tuning into.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Virginia, high expectations with an older team, I would assume, right?
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, they've got a lot. I mean, I'm kind
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: of curious about them. They had a strong year last season.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: That's a hell of a game. That's a hell of
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: a matchup to start things off.
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and a lot of people think, actually, my podcast co-host,
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: Bruce Feldman, nobody is higher in NC State than him.
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: You know, Virginia is the oldest team. Like, we now
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: have two of my colleagues did some great work coming
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: through the data of which teams are bringing back the
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: most career snaps, the most career starts, and it's definitely Virginia.
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: And in this day and age, that really helps.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Stuart, it's never too early for coaching hot seat talk.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: So let's do that as we wrap things up. Lincoln
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Riley and USC playing host to San Jose State. They're
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: a massive favorite. Should Have a relatively easy win there,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: you would think, but who knows? It's week zero. And
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: then Florida State. So Florida State, USC, which coach is
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: facing more pressure this weekend? And this year, really, this year?
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, definitely Florida State, definitely Mike Norvell. It's
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: just been so bad the last couple years. And frankly,
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: it was a little bit surprising that they did bring
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: him back for this year. the buyout was so much
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: that it just wasn't, they just, I don't think they
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: wanted to spend that much money, but they can't have
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: another losing season. I don't even think like a seven
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: and five season would really satisfy those fans. And now
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: there's a case of the fans are so done with
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: him and the boosters that he really did have no money.
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: Like they don't have a budget anywhere near what you
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: would expect from a national championship kind of program. The
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: quarterback they got Ashton Daniels, never really did much at
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: Stanford and Auburn. So expectations are pretty low for them. Um,
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: Lincoln Riley expectations are very high and he himself has
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: set those expectations by saying, you know, the window's open.
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: We took us four years. We've built a team that
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: we think can contend. So, um, Is he on the
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: hot seat? It's never been really clear whether that's even
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: an option for them with his contract.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Just because of the buyout, right? The buyout is the
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: cost there, right? That's the problem?
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: Private schools, you don't know the full details, but it's
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: a lot. But hey, if they have another eight and
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: four kind of season after bringing in the number one
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: recruiting class in the country with a three-year starting quarterback,
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: Jane Maiava, I mean, something would have to give.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: It is, Stuart Mandel, before I wrap things up, I
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: think it's an important weekend for what we just talked about,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: some of those games. Let me just, the last game
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: of the night, 7 o'clock on Saturday night, Memphis goes
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: to UNLV. And two group of six teams that, actually,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: I love this, the fact that it's a 7 o'clock
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Pacific time game for us on the West Coast with
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: these two teams, because I think there's intrigue. Maybe you'll
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: shoot me down here, Stu, but I think there's intrigue.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: UNLV is a team that many people feel could compete
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: for a group of six playoff berth. Memphis, a team
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: that's a really interesting team in school and program. There
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: was a thought they'd end up in the Pac-12. That's
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: not the case. If you're UNLV specifically, you can't afford
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: to lose a game, especially early to another group of
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: six team if you think you have playoff aspirations. It's
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: a big game, I would think, for the running Rebs
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: in Allegiant Stadium.
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, probably their second biggest game. They have Cal coming
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: there in about a month. And I don't really know
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: what to make of Memphis. They're one of these teams
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: that's just, well, frankly, Washington State just went through this, right?
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: Coach leaves, everybody else leaves too. Um, so you don't
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: really know what to expect from them, but, uh, and UNLV, um,
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: with Dan Mullen and a bunch of that kind of,
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: they've become like the last chance you of college football,
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: but it's a names you would remember who kind of
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: wandered their way to the mountain West, um, including their
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: new quarterback, Jackson Arnold.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: I would describe they don't win. Um, Charles Hoff is
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: the new coach of Memphis and he's definitely, um, done
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: really well in his previous two stops, but it's, A
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: total rebuild.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: By the way, not everybody left at Wazoo. In fact,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Jimmy Rogers is finding that out at Iowa State right now.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're too thrilled with the fact that
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: he didn't have as many players follow him as Dan
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Campbell had follow him to Penn State.
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: Did you see my Iowa State prediction in the Big 12?
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: It's bad. It's bad, right?
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: 0-9.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: God, I love you, Stu.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: That's why we have you on every week, huh? Not
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: that I'm a petty individual. Not that I'm that... Well, yes,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I am. I'm a total petty individual. I was rooting against...
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: For at least one year, I was rooting against Dickert
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: last year. Definitely rooting against this guy who came and
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: won and done. It was just an absolute. Stu, I
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: think he's going to have a hard time in a
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: lot of ways, personality-wise, in today's day and age. He
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: didn't have it, and you've got to sell your programs.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: But you just mentioned with Mike Norvell, right? If boosters
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: and those that support the program financially aren't buying into
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: you or don't feel like you have a hard time
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: because you still have to raise money, I think that's
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: a part of college football now is being a salesman.
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: And a really weird thing that happened at Iowa State
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: was the AD, Jamie Pollard, you know, basically hired him
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: before Matt Campbell left, I think.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: And he said, like, they've been in touch for years
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: and it was always just kind of known that when
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: the opportunity came, he was going to go get them.
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: There was no coaching search. And whether they could have
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: gotten somebody better on the outside or not, in the program,
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: the expectation was they were going to promote Matt Campbell
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: as offensive coordinator. So when that didn't happen, you saw
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: the mass exodus. to Penn State. Penn State is kind
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: of Iowa State North this year.
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Crazy.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: All right, my friend. Great stuff. Tell folks about, obviously,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: I'll point people in the direction of The Athletic. Stuart's
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: got a mailbag up that went up this morning, I
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: do believe. You can go read that and all the
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: great college football coverage The Athletic has. But tell folks
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: about The Athletic. If they haven't subscribed, they need to.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: You guys, you three, do a terrific job every week
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: talking all things college football.
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you. The amount of preseason content on The
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: Athletic right now is insane.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: So definitely go and find that. The Audible, starting this week,
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: starting as we go into week one, will be every Sunday, Tuesday,
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: and Thursday during the season.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: And you can get that on YouTube or anywhere you
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: listen to podcasts.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: And I hear you're on social media now. I say
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: you in terms of the pod.
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, at Audible Show on Twitter and Instagram.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: I love it. That is so good. My friend, thank
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: you so much. Looking forward to another fun year of
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: college football. We'll talk soon.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Okay, thanks, Ian.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: That is Stuart Mandel from The Athletic and the Audible Podcast.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Check it out. We'll come back, wrap up our number one.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Coming up next.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Now back to Ian Furness on your home for the Huskies, Kraken,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: and the 12th man. Brought to you by Seattle's closest
• 33:10
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• 33:18
  Speaker 2: All right, a little breaking news. Multiple sources, multiple sources
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: reporting that NFL owners have voted unanimously to approve the
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: $ 9. 612 billion sale of the Seahawks from Paul Allen's estate.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: And that is now being transferred over to San Francisco
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: 49ers limited partner, now former San Francisco 49ers limited partner,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: the Nod Kosla. There was a meeting today in Atlanta.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: It's a record-breaking sale in a lot of different ways.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: It needed approval from 24 of 32, but that was expected,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: 24 of 32, and it ends up being an unanimous vote,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: 32 of 32, I guess 31 of 32. Maybe Jody voted.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Anyway, it's unanimous. They will all do that. The team,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: according to all the reports, won't officially change hands until
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: the actual financial transaction closes. That would be, they're hoping
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: it could happen before the opener, which is two weeks
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: from today, actually. Two weeks from today against the Patriots.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Rematch of the Super Bowl game on February 8th. So
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: this was a foregone conclusion. We expected this to happen.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: There wasn't really any hiccups along the way. Once the
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: league's finance committee looked at it, pretty much a done deal.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: This was not going to change. Nothing was going to
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: change in that regard. So I'm checking. We may have
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Greg on here in the one o'clock hour and just
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: talk about it a little bit, maybe at 145. So
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: to see, let him kind of do a little work
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: on it. But yeah, nothing out of the ordinary outside
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: of the fact that it's a done deal. And away
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: we go. The Mariners or the Seahawks have officially have
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: new owners. Feels a lot better, a lot smoother and
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: a lot more positive than say the other transaction that
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: took place with the Allen estate, which was the Portland trailblazers,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: which is just an absolute nightmare to this day.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Um, we were talking about it yesterday at the golf
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: course with some folks that are kind of more in
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: the know and the whole Tom Dundon thing, like it's,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: it's readily apparent. This guy wants to move the team.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Like he does not interested in signing a lease. Now
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: he may be forced to, um, I can't, Maybe the
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: NBA tries to force them to sell, but that's a
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: gong show down there. This one, there's an unknown. There's just,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, a family, the Coastal family, they've never owned
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: a sports franchise, at least as majority owners. There's no
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: track record. There's no precedent. There's just an unknown outside
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: of the fact that they take over an organization that
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: right now is not just the defending Super Bowl champions,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: but really one of the model franchises in the NFL
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: in terms of how they do business on a day-to-day basis.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: So it's a little bit different. The Blazers were in
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: a little bit more of a situation, so to speak,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: in the sense that they had a lease issue. The
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: lease issue then translates into a distrust in the community,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: which makes it harder to get corporate partners involved. and
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: ticket sales. None of those things exist up here at
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks. And again, you also have ownership that just
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: based on their portfolio is fully capable of going out
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: and purchasing a team. That wasn't the case with Tom Dundon.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: He doesn't have the financial wherewithal to really, I mean,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: he's the majority owner, but he doesn't have that money,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: that kind of money along the way. So Yeah, I'll
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: check with Greg. We may throw him on at 145
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: just to kind of tap in with that. All right,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: when we come back, we'll set the stage for the
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Mariners game today. They're playing in a little bit. Brian
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Wu takes the mound, and I'll tell you why that's
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: a good thing. It's not just because it's at home,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: but it is largely because he's at home. We'll get
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: into that a little bit with the Mariners. And their
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: situation today, they try to wrap up a sweep. How
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: about that? Against the Philadelphia Phillies, a team that had
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: won nine straight games before today. So we'll do that
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: all coming up on 93.3 KGRFM. Now, from the Star Runnels.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Sports Desk, your 93.3 KKRFM Sports Headlines.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: All right, headlines are brought to you by Frostbrook, Coors Light,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Choose Chill, George Kirby dominant, Cal Raleigh homered again. Mariners
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: beat the Phillies 4-1 last night. Cal tied a team
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: record with home runs and four straight at-bats. Going back
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: to Monday night's game, Kirby gave up just one run
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: on four hits, struck out nine and seven and two-thirds.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: The M's are now two and a half games back
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: in the AL West. They look to complete the sweep
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: of the Phillies in just a little bit here. as
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Brian Wu takes them out more on a moment. Breaking
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: news out of the NFL. Seahawks, after returning to practice
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: yesterday in Renton, found out just a short time ago
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: they do indeed have new owners, as the Coastal family
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: has been unanimously approved by the NFL owners to be
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: the new owners of the Seahawks. Meanwhile, Bud Clark and
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Mason Richman placed on inter-reserve yesterday, ending their seasons. Nicky
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Minori is practicing. So is Yudarian Price. Probably not expected
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: to see either one.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: In fact, not probably.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Those guys aren't playing on Friday. Final preseason game is
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: in Kansas City. against the Chiefs. NFL owners will vote
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: on the sale of Seahawks. I already told you about that.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Sorry about that. SEC has joined the Big Ten, prohibiting
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: players who have been drafted in the NFL, NBA, or
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: WNBA and been on a roster in those leagues from
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: playing in college. And now there's reports coming out that
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: the NCAA is just blank. It's going to say no. Well,
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: that doesn't usually work. You need the conference to step up,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: and they have at least the two ones that matter
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: the most right now, the Big Ten and the SEC.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Let's move into our number two of the radio show here.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: All brought to you by Snoqualmie Casino and Hotel. Greg Bell, Travis,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: we'll have Greg jump on with us at 145 or so.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: We'll check in with him on the Seahawks sale. There
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: was a little bit of a news conference afterwards and
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: some questions asked. It's odd. They've been approved. The Coastal
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: family has been approved as the owners. They don't take
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: over until the actual financial transaction takes place, and that
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: hasn't taken place yet.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: It's close.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: It should be taking place here really soon, so Once
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: that does happen, then then away we go it becomes
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: official but uh they did actually speak we've heard more
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: from the the new owners than we did from jody
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: in the last paul passed away in 2018 right in
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: the last eight years yeah um and more from them
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: just now than we heard from anybody in the allen
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: family in the last i don't know 25 years but
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: um not that that means anything they won two superbowls
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: but i know sometimes fans want to hear from the
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: owners We have to probably be equal here a little bit.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: A lot of us, softy, but I'm with him. I
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: agree with him. I complain a lot about the Mariners,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: and John Stanton's just kind of hiding, goes into hiding
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: when things aren't going well. I bet you you see
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Stanton here coming up pretty soon if things keep going well.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: I think he'll pop up somewhere on an interview along
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: the way. Mariners today, we'll get to them. We'll do
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: some college football at 120 today. Mariner and then Greg
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: at 145. John Lund coming up at two. John Lund
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: at two will be fun. One of the things is
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: the son of the new ownership is, who's going to
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: be heavily involved too. I think he's the one that's
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: going to have an office here, if I'm not mistaken.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Big 49ers fan. I know that's going to drive Seahawks
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: fans crazy. Like that's just going to drive people nuts.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: That's not great.
• 40:30
  Speaker 8: No.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Much smaller scale. Like much, much, much smaller scale. But
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: when I worked in minor league hockey, all right, when
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: I worked in minor league hockey a zillion years ago,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: my first job on air, Uh, in, in broadcasting was
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: doing some work on the Seattle Thunderbirds broadcast on the old,
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: on KBI.
• 40:55
  Speaker 8: Nice.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: And I was doing pre and post and intermissions with
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Rich Waltz was our play by play guy who we
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: found on the show does fill in for the Mariners.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: And then when Rich got a baseball job and left
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: and I, I, they gave me the play by play
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: job the next year. So I did that for a
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: few years. And then I had an offer that was
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: really cool to go to Tri-Cities of all things. Actually,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: most people go from Tri-Cities to Seattle. I went backwards, uh,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: but they were doing a lot over there. The team's
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: the main game in town. We're doing TV. So anyway,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: that's why I took the job. My point is this.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: I went over there. I was a Thunderbird fan. I
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: worked for the Thunderbirds. I was all Thunderbirds all the
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: way through. It didn't take long for me to change
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: my allegiance. I hated the Thunderbirds and was all in
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: on the Americans, right? Because I was working for the
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Tri-City Americans. That's who I worked for. I was passionate
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: about it. That was my team. This guy will be
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: a Seahawks fan. I don't have any doubt about that.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: It's your team now. You own it. I don't know
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: if everyone has different feelings. You can't predict how someone's
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: going to feel. But my concerns are not big about
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: him being a 49er fan or the family being 49ers,
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: minority owners, and now the majority owners of the Seahawks. But, well,
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: I can understand. You can chime in on that, 49451.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: You can chime in on the consternation you may have.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: I know this. We watched Hard Knocks last night. I
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: saw Schneider. I saw McDonald. I feel confident with them.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: It's all I really care about.
• 42:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Honestly, we've had absentee owners here for all of our teams,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: kind of for a while, at least two of our teams.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: The Seahawks, they're not absentee, they're just behind closed doors.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: The Mariners, Stanton's the only owner we ever hear from,
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: but there's multiple owners. But I would put them in
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: that same category, so I'm not too worried about that.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: But we'll get to that with Greg at 145 today.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Mariners finish up the six-game homestand. If they get a sweep,
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: they go 5-1 on the homestand. That would be remarkable
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: if they're able.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: To do that.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Everyone saw that coming. Who didn't, right? They beat the Phillies,
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: as we mentioned last night, 4-1, winning a series against
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: the Cubs, and they've won this series now against the Phillies,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: two really good baseball teams from the National League. A
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: sweep would be something special. M's are still, however, five
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: games under. 500, but they could get some help today.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: You never know. Yankees play the Astros later on tonight,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: so we'll have to see how that works. But, I mean,
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: if they get a win today and the Astros, I mean,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: they could be, what, game and a half out? Game
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: and a half. Be pretty cool. That would be pretty
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: damn cool if that could happen along the way. Then
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: after that, Toronto and Boston, a road trip that's six games,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: three in Toronto, three in Boston, and away we go.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: I will.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Brian Wu goes today. He's been really, really good lately.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: We've talked about his road struggles and his overall road numbers, 2-8,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: 5-9-6 ERA, etc. Not good. This will be his 11th
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: start at home. He is 7-0 with a 1-9-6 ERA
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: at T-Mobile Park this season. In his I'm just going
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: through his last three starts. He's given up 2-0-0 in
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: terms of earned runs. Now that came after the Dodgers game,
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: which was a debacle, gave up five earned runs in
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: that game, gave up five earned runs in Texas. But
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: if we just want to go home starts, he's been
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: elite this season. But I think more importantly, both of
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: his last two starts, he was on the road and
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: he was really good in each of the last three starts,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: one at home, two on the road. Detroit at home,
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Yankees on the road, Houston on the road. He's been good.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: This is why you believe that this team has a
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: chance all season is because of the pitching, right? That's
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: why we've kind of believed it. Well, now all of
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: a sudden, let's take a peek at what a certain
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: catcher is doing for Seattle in this series against, and
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: it's only two games, he's four for five with four
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: home runs, five RBIs. Not bad. Let's broaden it out.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Current homestand, 7 for 16. That's 438. Five home runs,
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: eight RBIs. Also has walked four times. This is on
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: the heels of a road trip for Cal Raleigh. And
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: this is where I mentioned in the first segment today.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: I do want to see a little bit more. I
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: want to see a longer sample size. Because the previous
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: road trip, 2 for 24, which is a 0-8-3.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Oof.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Batting average. He did have a home run, did have
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: an RBI, and did have nine walks, but he also
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: had 10 strikeouts. Has he turned it around? Today, another
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: strong game from.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: Cal, maybe.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Let's see what he does this weekend. We're a place
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: that I feel like he's had great success. Doesn't it
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: feel like that in Toronto? He's kind of a Blue
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Jays killer. So let's see what Cal Raleigh does in
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: that regard as well. You know, I keep feeling like
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Julio's turned it around. Then I look and see what
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: his numbers are. He's four for 22 on this homestand.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Doesn't it feel like it's better than that? Yeah. He's
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: a big homer. He's three for nine in this series,
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: but he's four for 22 on the homestand. He didn't
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: do much against the Cubs.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: They still need him to get going. They still need
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: that to happen. But Cal Raleigh is one of those
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: few players in baseball, there aren't many, that I don't
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: want to say single-handedly can carry a team, but single-handedly
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: can boost and almost carry an offense. And if you
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: have that great pitching, which they've had, Kirby's so good
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: last night, Gilbert the same the night before. The funny
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: thing with Gilbert is he started out like sketchy, loading
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: the bases, he was throwing a lot of high pitch
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: count early on. He corrected that and then they gave
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: him all kinds of run support. But when you throw
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: a Gilbert or a Wu out, especially at home, but
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: on the mound, and then you throw a, You drop in,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: just for giggles, a George Kirby performance last night. You're
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: giving yourself a chance to win every night, but you've
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: got to find a way to score runs. And Cal
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: being Cal all season long has not helped them at all.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's still hitting 169. He's hurt them. Yes,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: he has hurt them. But that 169 average has put
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: him above that Mendoza line of the worst player ever.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: So that's good. We were wondering what it would take
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: to get there. It's apparently a Apparently a homestand in
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: which you're 7 of 16 and hitting 438, that'll get
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: you right back in it. So hopefully Cal can keep
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: going along. Hopefully he can keep cranking it up. Toronto
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: and Boston are two tough teams, two tough matchups. The
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Blue Jays we kind of thought, like a lot of teams,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: were left for dead and somewhat are. I'm actually doing
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: a thing with a guy on Friday. I'm curious to
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: see what their thought is out there in Toronto. They
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: kind of thought they were out of it, They're three
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: games out of the wild card, which is exactly where
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Seattle is. In the mix. In the mix. Now, Seattle's
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: 7-3 in the last 10. Toronto's 2-8. A little bit
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: different tracking there. I would look, though, and think if
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: you're Toronto, you're thinking, all right, our season comes down
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: to probably this weekend. If we can take a series,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: and God, if we can beat Seattle 2-3, maybe even
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: take a sweep of Seattle... we're in incredible shape. It's
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: not just Seattle. I know we worry a lot about
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: our team here. It's not just Seattle. It's not just Seattle.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: Cleveland's won six in a row. Kind of feels like
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: they might be in that situation where Cleveland and Chicago
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: are going to, one of those two teams is going
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: to nail down that final wildcard spot. So it might
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: be about the division, but don't think for a second
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: that these guys in Toronto are thinking that their season's over.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: They probably were feeling that for a while. They probably
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: had fan base like ours that was saying, well, This
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: isn't the year. But the two teams that played in
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: the ALCS last year are still very much in the
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: playoff hunt. I think it's fun. This is what I like.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Everyone's doing the, hey, do you believe show? Are you
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: buying back in and all that? I know a lot
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: of you never bought out. I do know that. I
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: know that there is a tendency in this town. I
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: think it's because of a lot of different factors. I
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: hear often that this is a really unlikable team. I
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: don't know if I can speak to unlikable, if they're
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: an unlikable team. I don't even know what that really means.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: But I do think that there's many of you that
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: have been thinking, all right, we just need to get
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: a hot streak and this thing will be fine. Well,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: they're in the midst of that hot streak right now.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: They're in the midst of that hot streak right now,
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: and they're getting it going. All right. They get ready
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: to get things going down at T-Mobile. We'll do this.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: We'll switch over to some college football. Can't wait to
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: do a little college football conversation. We're going to do that.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Jamie Vinnick from kookfan.com, our good friend. He'll join us,
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: talk about the Apple Cup, talk about the Cougar quarterback battle,
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: who's going to face the Huskies in that first game
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: of the season, which is a week from Sunday, by
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: the way, on Fox TV. So we'll do all that.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: Jamie Vinnick coming up. Greg Bell at 145, right here
• 50:00
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• 50:04
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• 50:08
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• 50:19
  Speaker 2: Alright, welcome back in here on Wednesday afternoon. Our show
• 50:22
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• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Furness with you until 3 o'clock today. I've been meaning
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: to do this for a while. I'm kind of waiting
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: to see what the end result would be at the
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: battle for the quarterback position over in Pullman, but always
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: a good chance to catch up with Jamie Vinnick, kookfan.com.
• 50:38
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• 50:40
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• 50:42
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• 50:46
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• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Greg Witter, Barry Bolton, and of course, the great Jamie Vinnick,
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: who joins us right now on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: Hello, sir.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: How are you?
• 50:58
  Speaker 9: I'm good.
• 50:58
  Speaker 6: How about you?
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm still mad about the women's soccer team
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: losing to Idaho, just FYI for our social media folks
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: out there.
• 51:05
  Speaker 10: Fair enough, fair enough.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: Some guy, for those who don't know, Wazoo's women's soccer team,
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: like all the sports, kind of going through transition, new coach,
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: news conference, all those things. They went from being a
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: tournament Final Four team, the great Morgan Weaver and others,
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: one of the best programs on the West Coast, They've
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: suffered through some times lately. They lost their first match
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: of the year to Idaho. And I, I, I was like,
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: I was a little, I don't usually, you know, me, Jimmy,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: you see me. I don't get too worked up on
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Twitter that night. I'm like, God, what? Like kick me
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: in the, kick me in the, in the, in the
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: midsection one more time. Like, like our women's soccer team
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: now isn't good.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: What the hell?
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: And some guy points out to me after you and
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: I were kind of had a, an interaction. He said, well,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: just so you know, Idaho's got a, you know, a
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: couple of all big sky players. I'm like, who, who cares?
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: They're Idaho, man.
• 51:57
  Speaker 10: I think it was right after the Mariners had blown
• 51:58
  Speaker 10: that second game to the Yankees, too.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: Maybe I was on one that day. I don't know
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: what the hell the deal is. Before I get to football,
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: I do want to ask you something. Washington released its
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: non-conference basketball schedule yesterday. As expected, Cougs and Washington are
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: not playing in college hoops this.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Year.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: This is one of those, if you're a Wazoo fan,
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: you have probably a strong feeling one way or the other.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: Either you wanted the Apple Cup of Hoops to continue,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: or you didn't. It was one or the other, and
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: there's probably no in-between. I prefer, you know what, they
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: can pound sand, but what have you. But we're playing
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: them in an exhibition game. What the hell? Why are
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: we even bothering doing that? Let's just go find St.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Martins or Whitworth or somebody like that instead for an
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: exhibition game.
• 52:51
  Speaker 10: I think my guess would be they see it as
• 52:53
  Speaker 10: an opportunity that you know, that they can have some
• 52:56
  Speaker 10: of the Seattle Coug fans come out and see the
• 52:59
  Speaker 10: team play in an exhibition.
• 53:01
  Speaker 9: I honestly just kind of learned about that the other
• 53:04
  Speaker 9: day too.
• 53:05
  Speaker 10: So don't have anything concrete necessarily on why or what
• 53:09
  Speaker 10: was kind of the mindset behind that. I mean, I'll
• 53:11
  Speaker 10: also add that it's the day after Wazoo plays Boise
• 53:14
  Speaker 10: State in Pullman.
• 53:15
  Speaker 9: So there's going to be a lot of Coug fans
• 53:16
  Speaker 9: in Pullman that weekend.
• 53:19
  Speaker 10: But ultimately, I mean, the other thing too is they're
• 53:21
  Speaker 10: playing Seattle U at Climate Pledge.
• 53:24
  Speaker 9: So I don't, I don't know. I'm sure there's a
• 53:27
  Speaker 9: reason behind it.
• 53:27
  Speaker 10: I haven't had a chance to kind of, you know,
• 53:29
  Speaker 10: dive into it a little bit, but, and maybe it's
• 53:33
  Speaker 10: just this, oh, well, you know, an attempt just to
• 53:35
  Speaker 10: say that they played this year. Ultimately, I think it's
• 53:39
  Speaker 10: the whole thing's just, I think it's.
• 53:41
  Speaker 9: It's lame.
• 53:41
  Speaker 10: I think, you know, if, I'd get it if, you know,
• 53:44
  Speaker 10: you're trying to build this just monster non-conference schedule if
• 53:47
  Speaker 10: you're Washington and you want to make sure.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: That you're playing the best of the best.
• 53:51
  Speaker 10: But it's a weak non-con. They're not a team that
• 53:56
  Speaker 10: needs a resume or, you know, a strength of schedule. So, no,
• 54:00
  Speaker 10: I think basically what I have heard is that Washington
• 54:03
  Speaker 10: State wanted a home-and-home, which understandable, and that's where Washington bought.
• 54:08
  Speaker 10: And to that point, I say, okay, you know, maybe
• 54:10
  Speaker 10: they just said, We don't want to do a home-and-home.
• 54:13
  Speaker 9: If they're going to play, it's going to be in Seattle.
• 54:15
  Speaker 10: But ultimately, I just think when you come out and
• 54:19
  Speaker 10: you're not going to play Washington State, you're not going
• 54:21
  Speaker 10: to play Seattle, you're not going to play Gonzaga, and
• 54:23
  Speaker 10: then you go and your schedule comes out and you
• 54:26
  Speaker 10: are playing literally the worst team in college basketball last
• 54:29
  Speaker 10: year in Mississippi Valley State, I think you're opening yourself
• 54:33
  Speaker 10: up to some reactions about the schedule and just the
• 54:37
  Speaker 10: way it kind of shapes up.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's any doubt Danny Sprinkles is under
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: some pressure either, too, this year. And they're also not
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: playing Gonzaga, I should point out, which is also just ridiculous.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, just absolutely ridiculous. But that's fine. We move
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: on from hoops. Let's talk football. We've got a week
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: zero this week, Jamie. I want to get a quick
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: thought from you on this. There was no official Pac-12
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: media day for the new Pac-12. A handful of people,
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: including yourself, did vote, I think, on where you thought
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: teams were going to finish this season. Boise State, everyone
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: thinks is going to be good. San Diego State, people like.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: I know you're higher on Wazoo than some others are.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: But the group of five conferences, of the group of
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: five non-power conferences, of which one will get a berth
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: in the college football playoff. I mentioned this earlier. I
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: kind of think this weekend, UNLV Memphis is a sneaky,
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: important game in the world of college football this weekend.
• 55:32
  Speaker 9: Absolutely.
• 55:32
  Speaker 10: I mean, because I think when you look at In
• 55:35
  Speaker 10: all likelihood, the team that's going to come out of
• 55:37
  Speaker 10: the group of five will either be from the Pac-12
• 55:39
  Speaker 10: or the group of six now, either from the Pac-12,
• 55:42
  Speaker 10: from the American, or from the Mountain West. I mean,
• 55:45
  Speaker 10: no disrespect to the MAC or Conference USA or the
• 55:48
  Speaker 10: Sun Belt, but I think it's a longer shot for
• 55:52
  Speaker 10: anyone to come out of those leagues. But I think,
• 55:54
  Speaker 10: you know, when you look at on paper, right, I
• 55:57
  Speaker 10: think the popular pick is Boise State. That's the pick
• 56:00
  Speaker 10: that I think a lot of people are saying that's
• 56:02
  Speaker 10: going to be the team that comes out of the
• 56:03
  Speaker 10: group of six.
• 56:04
  Speaker 9: That's going to be the team that goes to the playoff.
• 56:06
  Speaker 9: And I think for good reason.
• 56:07
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 56:08
  Speaker 10: They've established it. You know, they're two years removed from
• 56:11
  Speaker 10: a playoff appearance. But I do think, you know, if
• 56:14
  Speaker 10: it's not Boise State, if, say, they falter and, you know,
• 56:16
  Speaker 10: they weren't nearly as good last year without Gentee. then yes,
• 56:20
  Speaker 10: UNLV and Memphis are two of those teams where you
• 56:22
  Speaker 10: would very much be looking at and saying, those are contenders,
• 56:25
  Speaker 10: those are threats, those are teams that, you know, realistically,
• 56:29
  Speaker 10: Boise State falters and no one else from the Pac-12
• 56:31
  Speaker 10: really kind of emerges.
• 56:33
  Speaker 9: That could be almost a semifinal to get into the playoff.
• 56:36
  Speaker 10: And maybe the winner of UNLV-Memphis at the end of
• 56:39
  Speaker 10: the year, you look back and that's who makes the
• 56:41
  Speaker 10: playoff based on who won that game.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: And I think, and you can't afford to lose a game.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: If you lose a game and you're a group of
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: six teams, It better be against a Power Four conference team.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: It better not be against another team that's there as well, i.e.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: what we've got with Memphis. All right. Jamie Vinnick joining us.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Let's get to it. Apple Cup is a week from Sunday.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: I'll probably check in with you at some point next week.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: But Washington State, I do like this because I think,
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: was it last year? Two years ago? When was it?
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: Was it last year we went through the whole song
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: and dance, who's the quarterback type of thing?
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Whatever that nonsense was. and said quarterback is not even
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: the starter at his new school at Old Dominion. Anyway,
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: this year they had a quarterback competition for Kirby Moore's
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: first year. Caden Pinnock from UC Davis comes out ahead
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: of Julian Duggar and Owen Eshelman.
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: You were there.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: You were watching stuff. I'm assuming you probably think that's
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: the right call.
• 57:38
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I think even going back to when
• 57:41
  Speaker 10: the quarterback room kind of took shape in the winter, right?
• 57:44
  Speaker 9: It felt like Pinnock had the upper hand.
• 57:46
  Speaker 10: You know, he was kind of the big transfer that
• 57:48
  Speaker 10: they brought in versus the two guys who were returning.
• 57:50
  Speaker 10: And even through the spring, I don't think anyone really
• 57:54
  Speaker 10: jumped out during the spring. I think if you had
• 57:56
  Speaker 10: to pick, it would have been Pinnock at that time.
• 57:58
  Speaker 10: But he didn't really separate the way that I think
• 58:00
  Speaker 10: a lot of people thought he would.
• 58:01
  Speaker 9: And that kind of carried into the first week or
• 58:04
  Speaker 9: so of fall camp.
• 58:06
  Speaker 10: And then something just kind of clicked in that second
• 58:08
  Speaker 10: week where all of a sudden he kind of just
• 58:10
  Speaker 10: started to take command and he was very uh very
• 58:14
  Speaker 10: accurate he was far more confident just in the way
• 58:16
  Speaker 10: he moved around the pocket and then you start to
• 58:18
  Speaker 10: notice okay he's the guy with the ones and you
• 58:21
  Speaker 10: know there's a few reps here and there with the
• 58:23
  Speaker 10: with the second unit but he was by and large
• 58:26
  Speaker 10: the number one quarterback throughout kind of the back half
• 58:28
  Speaker 10: of fall camp and then I think it just became
• 58:32
  Speaker 10: a point where Duggar and Esselman have talent, and I
• 58:35
  Speaker 10: do think Esselman will be.
• 58:36
  Speaker 9: A good quarterback.
• 58:36
  Speaker 10: I think he's just very young still. I think he's
• 58:38
  Speaker 10: got a lot of, you know, just– kind of common
• 58:42
  Speaker 10: flaws for a second-year quarterback. Duggar is an incredible athlete.
• 58:46
  Speaker 10: He can really run. And I do think that his
• 58:48
  Speaker 10: passing got a lot better from what we saw, even
• 58:51
  Speaker 10: in the spring, let alone last year. But there is
• 58:53
  Speaker 10: still some accuracy issues. And the biggest concern that I
• 58:56
  Speaker 10: have with him is just the pocket awareness, I think, lacks.
• 59:00
  Speaker 10: And there were times where if there's full contact with
• 59:03
  Speaker 10: the quarterback, he's getting his bell rung. And when the
• 59:05
  Speaker 10: pocket collapses, it's not an instant decision.
• 59:09
  Speaker 9: It takes a little bit of long.
• 59:11
  Speaker 10: Whereas Pinnock, I think, has, you know, maybe not quite
• 59:13
  Speaker 10: the top end speed that Duggar has, but plenty of escapability,
• 59:17
  Speaker 10: plenty of mobility. He is the one knock on him
• 59:19
  Speaker 10: as he's small. He is not a particularly big quarterback.
• 59:22
  Speaker 10: He's listed at six feet. I think that's probably adding an.
• 59:25
  Speaker 9: Inch or two.
• 59:26
  Speaker 10: But there really wasn't an issue of, oh, he's getting
• 59:29
  Speaker 10: passes batted down at the line by the defensive tackles.
• 59:32
  Speaker 10: So he finds ways, and he throws from some different
• 59:35
  Speaker 10: angles sometimes to give himself a better chance to complete passes.
• 59:38
  Speaker 9: He throws well on the run. I just think there's
• 59:40
  Speaker 9: a lot to like.
• 59:41
  Speaker 10: About him, and I think that he's the type of
• 59:43
  Speaker 10: guy that when you get him into a real game setting,
• 59:45
  Speaker 10: is probably going to be better than what he even
• 59:47
  Speaker 10: was in fall camp.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: Jamie, Vinny Cook fan joining. As you're describing him and
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: going through that process, I'm thinking to myself that this
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: is a guy in Kirby Moore that wants to win
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: kind of right now. He wants to win in this
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: first year in the Pac-12, and he may have just,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: if nothing else, he picked the guy that immediately is
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: better than the other two today. Maybe, as you mentioned,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: maybe Eshelman's a better guy in a couple years' time.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: Maybe Duggar develops into a passer. We saw what he
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: can do with his legs. It's sensational, and he did
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: make a couple throws, I think, in the bowl game, right?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: But Maybe this sounds, as you're describing it, like Kirby says, hey,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: college football today is not about redshirting Alex Brink and
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: then letting him take his lumps as a redshirt freshman
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: at Oregon State and games like that, and then all
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: of a sudden it pays off later. This is about
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: winning right now, and it sounds like he's the most
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: game-ready guy, Caden Pinnick is, than the other two.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I think if you say, all right, tomorrow,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 10: who's going to give you the best chance to win
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 10: the Apple Cup?
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 9: It is Pinnock.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 10: And I think that it's just a matter of, you know,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 10: you're not saying, OK, this is a long term play, right?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 9: You can't do that anymore because you give a.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 10: Guy the long term play and you let him marinate
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 10: or develop or.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 9: Whatever you want to call it.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 10: That all, that's all good and well until December and
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 10: that guy's in the portal. And I'm not saying that's
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 10: going to happen with Pinnick, but that's just a general
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 10: statement of, you know, it's, I think it's honestly a
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 10: good thing that they kind of just got rid of
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 10: the red shirt rule because.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 9: It kind of got to a point of what's the
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 9: point of registering a guy.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 10: You preserve his year of eligibility for him to play
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 10: somewhere else.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 9: I mean, if a guy is ready to play, he's
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 9: ready to play.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 10: And I think there just isn't, to your point, you know,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 10: the kind of letting Alex Frank take his lumps and
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 10: so on.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 9: It's if a guy can play, he can play.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 10: And I think this is, I think for Pinnock, it's,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 10: you know, he gives you the best chance to win
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 10: this season. And then you're, you know, obviously hopeful that
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 10: maybe he gives you the best chance to win next
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 10: season and the season after. And obviously that's, you know,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 10: a lot easier said than done just with having to
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 10: compete financially. But I think there wasn't, I don't, I
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 10: think especially now for Kirby Moore, you're not thinking about, okay,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 10: you know, is this the right decision for 2028 and nine?
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 10: You're thinking of, okay, this is the right decision for 2026.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 10: And you'll, you'll cross the next bridge when you come
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 10: to it.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's definitely what it sounds like. Is there a
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: number two, or is this going to be one of
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: those things where both of those guys may end up
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: seeing action? Maybe it's even situational with Duggar, like on
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: a short third down or something like that? How do
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: you think the pecking order works? I'm going to get
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: to somebody else in a second because I think it's
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: an interesting dynamic that we have in college football. Quarterbacks
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: like to move and transfer all the time. You're one
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: hit away from from being into the game and being
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: the number one.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, the way I see it right now
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  Speaker 10: is if something were to happen to Pinnock, I'm confident
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 10: that Duggar would be the guy they would go to.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 10: I think there's a level of college experience that he has.
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  Speaker 10: I think there's just a little bit more explosiveness with
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 10: the legs and with maybe some of the dynamic things
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 10: he can do outside the pocket. I think, you know,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 10: to Esselman's credit, again, he did some really good things,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 10: but kind of hit, you know, that redshirt freshman wall
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 10: over the last couple weeks of camp and, you know,
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  Speaker 10: just maybe looked, I don't want to say overwhelmed, but
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  Speaker 10: Kind of show that he still has some developing to do.
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  Speaker 10: And I think that, you know, Duggar, I think he
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 10: outperformed Eshelman in fall camp. So I think he earned
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 10: the backup role based on that. But also, I think
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 10: he would get that backup role just in the terms of, again,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 10: he's played college football.
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  Speaker 9: He's been in games.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 10: You know, results kind of aside, he's shown that he
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 10: can make plays at the college level. Now, the important
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 10: thing to note within all this is Duggar has missed
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 10: the last few days of practice with some kind of injury.
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  Speaker 9: I don't think it's serious.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 10: I mean, I asked Kirby Moore yesterday if there's anyone
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 10: who's going to be out to start the year outside
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 10: of Trey Lechner and Hudson Cederland. He said everyone else
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 10: should be good to go. But I do think that's
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 10: just something to kind of keep eyes on that, you know,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 10: if he's not ready to go, then suddenly you have
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 10: two scholarship quarterbacks available for week one. But to the point, too,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 10: I do wonder if there will be wildcat packages or
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 10: maybe something that they will do with him. They haven't
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 10: shown anything like that in practice, partly because he's obviously
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 10: been just competing to be the starting quarterback. but I
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 10: do wonder if they see a way that they can
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 10: get him on the field and utilize that speed and
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 10: that athleticism in some kind of trick package, gadget package.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 10: The big thing I'll say to that, too, is you've
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 10: got to remember who Kirby Moore played under.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 9: That was Chris Peterson, who always had some kind of.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 10: always seemed to pull something out, whether it was the
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 10: Apple cup or otherwise, some kind of trick play that,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 10: that seemed to work. So I think that'll be interesting to,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 10: to monitor that, you know, there's a little bit of
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 10: that gadget play that trickery just in his blood from
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 10: who he learned under.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: I forgot. I, I didn't forget that he played under him,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: but I just, yeah, the Chris Peter, cause we didn't
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: see as much of that maybe at, at Washington as
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: we did at, at Boise state with Chris Peterson, but
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: Kirby Moore played for him, as you mentioned. And that's,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: That's 100% what that guy is going to be all about.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: So it'll be fun to see. And I mentioned that
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: to you with the quarterbacks. You mentioned it kind of
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: hit on it. The transfer world we live in right now,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: oftentimes guys don't get the job and they're out. It's
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: almost too late for that now. I was thinking today
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: about this because I saw that Alabama and Kaelin DeBoer
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: did not name Austin Mack the starter. They went with
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: a freshman instead. Austin Mack was a big-time recruit here,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: transfers down there. That was thought to be a big
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: deal for Alabama. He's not the starter. They say, well,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: he's staying. He's not going anywhere. We'll see at the
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: end of the year what his situation is, but oftentimes
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: the quarterback guys want to leave. We saw that last
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: year with Jackson Potter, right? Just bailed out. I'm gone.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: I'm out of here. It sounds like those guys are
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: at least here for at least this year, if nothing else.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I think part of it is there's
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 10: just not– I mean, I guess you could theoretically just say, no,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 10: I'm not even going to play for the team this year.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 9: I'm just going to quit and work out on my
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 9: own and all that. But I think that is the
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 9: good thing.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 10: I mean, I don't know how much the NCAA does that's,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 10: you know, proper and correct anymore. But, you know, not
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 10: having the portal open in the fall– I think is
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 10: a positive. And I think if anyone, if Duggar or
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 10: Eshelman or anyone else just said, no, I'm going to
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 10: enter the portal in September. Oh, that's going to raise
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 10: red flags right away. Cause that means, you know, you're,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 10: you're kind of quitting on your team and, and you know, it's,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 10: I mean, especially with these guys, because again, you're one hit,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 10: two hits away from playing. You know, you get to December,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 10: you get to January, maybe it gets revisited, suddenly you're
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 10: in a different conversation. But I think also in the
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 10: minds of those two guys, it's, all right, let's see
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 10: what the quarterback room looks like in December.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 9: Is Pinnock still here?
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 10: Uh after the season and obviously the hope for washington
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 10: state is that he will be but that's just the
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 10: nature of the beast now is you know you if
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 10: you're say a sophomore back in the day and you
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 10: lose your quarterback battle to a freshman well you're probably
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 10: never going to play all of a sudden you might
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 10: just have to wait one year because that guy who's
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 10: ahead of you.
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  Speaker 3: Is gone Yeah, no doubt.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: Jamie Vinnick joining us, kookfan.com. Just a real quick thought
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: on the receiver group. There's a million of them. I
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: recognize like two names on there. One of them is
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: pretty good in Tony Freeman. But the guys that he's
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: going to be throwing to, how good?
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 10: I think that's going to be a great thing that
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 10: we'll kind of reveal in the season, right? I think,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 10: you know, guys look good in fall camp, but, you know,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 10: you can make an All-American team of guys who looked
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 10: good in fall camp that never kind of translated. I mean,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 10: Brandon Gnasher-Morley has had a monster fall camp. I mean,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 10: he was everywhere for Washington State in terms of using
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 10: his physicality, using his speed. But he's a guy in
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 10: his fourth year, so the question is, does that translate
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 10: to the field? If it does, that's a huge victory
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 10: for Washington State because that's a guy that they've kind
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 10: of brought up and developed. Obviously, past staffs have done that,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 10: but that's a guy that isn't necessarily even in their
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 10: starting rotation right now. I think you'll see the starters
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 10: as Freeman, Daniel Blood from Missouri, and Darius Clemens from
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 10: Oregon State. I think there's some varying skill sets in there,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 10: which is good. Freeman's the burner. Freeman's got the speed.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 10: He's the dynamic playmaker. Blood's kind of your... underneath Brandon Arconado,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 10: River Preycraft, Kyle Sweet. Hey, we need six yards.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 9: You know, he's underneath. He's open. Clemens, big, physical. I mean, 6'4,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 9: well over 200-plus pounds. He's the type of guy.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 10: That you put it up there, and he goes and
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 10: he out-muscles a DB, and he wins a battle down
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 10: the field.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 9: And then you've got some interesting guys even below that.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 10: You know, Tank Hawkins was at Florida last year, ridiculous speed.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 10: And he was a guy who had a really, really
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 10: quiet spring, came back, had a really nice fall. Jordan
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 10: Dees from West Georgia really struggled his first two weeks
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 10: of fall camp and then was really, really strong this
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 10: most recent week. So he's another guy, another big body receiver.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 10: I mentioned Ganesh Murthy. That's kind of the six I
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 10: think you'll see. I don't know how much further they're
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 10: going to go into the depth. They've got some other guys,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 10: but they're younger guys. or they're they're unproven guys i
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 10: think that's the six you'll see most often but i
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 10: i think ultimately freeman is kind of the game breaker
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 10: of that group.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: Well jamie great stuff as always buddy good stuff love
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: talking to you uh let's let's let's try to make
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: a an appointment next week to talk pre-apple cup if
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: we can uh as again they'll be heavy underdogs but
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: uh The late, great Jim Walton was a heavy underdog
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: a couple times, too, and I know what he did.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: So maybe in his memory, something special happened along the way.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: Let's talk next week. In the meantime, let's get people
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: over to kookfan.com. All you Wazoo fans, go subscribe right now, kookfan.com.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: Jamie's got you totally covered. All the coverage seems like
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: multiple stuff every day. You won't miss a thing as
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: far as Wazoo football and Kirby Moore's first year. Thank you,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: my friend.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 8: Awesome.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Thanks, Dean.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 9: Appreciate it.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: Jamie Vinnick joining us. We'll take a break. Come back.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell joins us next. Seahawks sale unanimously approved. What
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: does Greg think? What are the ramifications? Now that it's
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: a done deal, we'll find out next.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: Now back to Ian Furness on your home for the Huskies, Kraken,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: and the 12th man. Brought to you by Seattle's closest
• 1:10:04
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• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell is going to join us here in just
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: a second. You know who Greg Bell is. He's on
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: 10 to noon every day here on KJR. Also, of course,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: longtime Seahawk beat writer, Tacoma News Tribune. Before that, the
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: Associated Press. Covered this team forever. He finished at noon.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: That would be, what, an hour and 47 minutes ago.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: And I thought to myself, you know, I used to
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: do a two-hour show. That's not nearly enough time. So
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: he's back on with us.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: Hi, Greg.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: How are you?
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 8: I'm well, thank you.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: I mentioned this earlier. The breaking news came out about
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: an hour ago that the owners in Atlanta at a
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: meeting unanimously approved the ownership sale to the Coastal family.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: I'll just let you take it from there. What do
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: Seahawks fans need to know about this today, how significant
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: this is, if at all, and what the steps are
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: as we keep going? Well, this was a.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 8: Fait accompli, Ian, once they said, let's see, committees that
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 8: recommend sales finance committee and the ownership committee of sub
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 8: committee of team owners recommended last week that the sale
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 8: go through. It went through unanimously as expected. They're not
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 8: officially owners yet because now the banks and the lawyers
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 8: have to vet the $ 9. 6 billion. It's not like just
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 8: plunking down a $ 10 bill at the gas station.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: This, this takes a little.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 8: Bit of process and lawyers and banks before it becomes
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 8: officially official where they can actually operate the team, be
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 8: in the building and, The Seahawks think they can get
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 8: that done by or even the day of the opener.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 8: And there may be a press conference at Bloomfield around
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 8: September the 8th or 9th, maybe even day of the
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 8: NFL kickoff game to have a big celebration of them
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 8: as the new owners. And that will be after the
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 8: banks and lawyers have their say. Seahawks fans should know, one,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 8: that Vinod Kozla in his statements today said this, quote,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 8: it's pretty simple when the team is functioning as well
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 8: as it is today. How often do you get it
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 8: by a franchise that just won a Super Bowl? He's
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 8: right there.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: This is unprecedented.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 8: So we are incredibly lucky and humbled by this gift,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 8: I would say, from the Allen Trust. And of course,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 8: having been to Lumen Field and watching the 12s everywhere,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 8: I do want to thank them for their passion and fervor.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 8: So that says that football operations will stay as they are.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 8: And why shouldn't they? 17 years of John Schneider as
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 8: GM and the success that they've had and the only
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 8: Super Bowl championships, the only two In the team's history.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 8: The other thing, Ian, I wanted to point out from
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 8: Vanilla Kozla's statements to reporters, they were brief, and you
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 8: only took a couple questions in Atlanta. But he was
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 8: asked if the Kozla family may have any long-term plans
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 8: about Lumen Field. And he said, Vanilla Kozla said, quote, well, first,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 8: Lumen Field is iconic and very much a part of
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 8: the Seahawks brand. So that's all I would say for now. Obviously,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 8: we are not owners yet, and not of those banks
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 8: and lawyers. And we need to learn a lot more,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 8: but we will work with management and with the owners
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 8: and the community in Seattle to hopefully preserve this iconic brand.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: I read that, Ian, to mean he is potentially, they.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 8: Are going to renovate or add seating to Lumen Field.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: I think it would.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 8: Be not a stretch of the imagination to think that
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 8: they would look at closing the north end and the
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 8: Hawks Nest corners that, of course, are open on the
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 8: downtown side. You put permanent stands in there, and now
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 8: you've got the capacity up above 70,000. That would increase
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 8: the local in-house, locally produced revenue, and that's where the
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 8: teams get their deltas from everyone else. Jerry Jones' huge
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 8: success for the Cowboys is because his stadium is a
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 8: cash machine for him. Teams don't have to share their
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 8: stadium and local revenue. They share national licensing and media
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 8: rights revenue among 32 teams. So the delta is when
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 8: their local revenue increases. the Seahawks could increase local revenue
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 8: by adding to that north end and closing in the stadium.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: I read it in things.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 8: Like that rather than, oh, it sounds like they're going
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 8: to move to Bellevue or something.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: Right, right, right.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: I think that's, I mean, that's, I know there's been,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: you know, that gets brought up and, you know, building
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: your own building that also can be natural grass gets brought.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: The problem is, and listen, we know this from other,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: you know, leagues, i.e.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: The NBA, NHL.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: There's only so many places. This isn't Vegas, right? Like
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: you can't just, we're not spread out. There's only so
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: many places that there's real estate available and you could
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: actually build something that makes sense. And on top of
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: all that, I think what he said is true. There
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: is an iconic nature to Lumen. It's two Super Bowl
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: championship teams have played NFC championship title games in that building,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: memorable ones. Also the two that they lost and There's
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: a lot of history there for a stadium that's only
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: been open, what, 25, 26 years. Greg, the grass thing
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: is obviously always going to be a topic. I did
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: see a story the other day, because I know you
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: and I have talked about this, because I'm sure he'll
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: be asked about this. I did see a story the
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: other day that Lumen Field is the busiest NFL stadium
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: in terms of other sports being played, the dates, but
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: it's because of two things. The rain and the NWSL
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: and the Sounders and the MLS. I wonder if.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: I don't want to speak out of turn, but I
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: believe the rain will at some point end up playing
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: at the new Memorial Stadium on the Seattle Center campus.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: I think that's the plan. And if that happens, that
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: takes those dates away. Maybe the Sounders build their own stadium,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: because I think it almost has to have that happen
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: for those things for grass to take place.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: Probably.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 8: Now, again, part of the reason they don't have grass
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 8: is so they can have tractor pulls and concerts and
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 8: all the things they have, which increases the revenue and
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 8: increases the dates that stadium's in use. I think if
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 8: the new owners wanted to make a good first impression
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 8: on the players, they would make steps toward putting a
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 8: grass field in. My personal opinion, having talked to players.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 8: That costs money. Billionaires become billionaires by making money and
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 8: not giving out money when they don't have to spend it.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 8: And if the league is not going to require, through
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 8: a collective bargaining agreement or anything else, if they're not
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 8: going to require grass fields, then they're not going to
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 8: put it in because they don't have to. Why would
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 8: you spend money in grass and re-sodding and re-grassing when
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 8: you don't have to?
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: They didn't become a billionaire if I was just spending money.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 8: Now, the other thing to consider is when people talk
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 8: about a new stadium, one, you're right. Cleveland Field's not
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 8: that old, but by NFL standards, it's older, 24 years.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 8: But The things they would seek, the things any owner
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 8: would seek in any sports venue, Lumen Field already has.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: It's at the.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 8: Confluence of two regional major thoroughfares, I-90 and I-5. It
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 8: is right next to a mass transit light rail system
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  Speaker 8: with a station across the street, and it has public
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 8: transportation going right by. Now, yeah, the parking and the
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 8: tailgate experience is not all that great, but you're in
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 8: downtown Lumen. But the access, compared to what they would
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 8: try to seek on the east side, or in Renton,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 8: you can't buy or create. It doesn't exist in our region,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 8: that kind of transportation and accessibility.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: So I get it.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 8: Everyone wants a new, shiny new thing. I also get
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 8: the skepticism in this town of new owners coming in
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 8: about anything. We have a terrible history of that in
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 8: this town, most recently with the Sonics. So I get
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 8: some skepticism in that regard, but The takeaway for me
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 8: from Atlanta today is these people are smart enough to
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 8: not touch the football operations of a Super Bowl champion,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 8: realize how lucky they are to buy a Super Bowl
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 8: champion rather than a dysfunctional franchise or one that was
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 8: sold for a profit by somebody just to make a profit.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 8: And that Lumenfield renovation sound like that could be in
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 8: their plan.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: You know, one of the things that's going to happen
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: too is if you get, if you were able to
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: close off that North end, add, you know, however many
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: more seats, maybe some of those seats are of a,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: you know, of a higher rate, like a club level, whatever,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: whatever you do, those are all revenue streams. Maybe you
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: don't have a tractor pull anymore, uh, or a motocross anymore.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: Cause those are the ones that really destroyed. You can
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: have a, you can have a, a Kenny Chesney Taylor
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: Swift concert in the middle of the summer. You can
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: do that. That's, that's doable. It's, it's what you just said.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: When you put There's hundreds of tons of dirt on it.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: That's not going to fly. By the way, something just broke, too.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: Athletic is reporting no more Pro Bowl game. I know
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: you're going to be heartbroken about that. That's a heartbreak.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: That should have happened 20 years ago.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 8: You know, they should have gotten rid of the Pro
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 8: Bowl when they moved it out of Honolulu.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: I agree. God, I agree with that. Well, listen, I
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: know there'll be more stuff to come. I'll let you
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: tackle the issue tomorrow of I saw the one soundbite
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: from I don't know the wife's name, but I saw
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: the one quote from her about how her son is
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: a big 49ers fan. I'll let you tackle that with
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: your listeners tomorrow, alright? I'm going to guess it won't
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: be too hard to switch your allegiances now that you're
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: owning the other NFC West team, so.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think $ 9. 6 billion might change with Allegiance pretty quickly.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: Clint Kubiak was a 49ers fan two years ago. So
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: was Sam Darnold when they were both in San Francisco.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: I don't think they really care about them anymore, is
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: my guess.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: I could be wrong.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 4: The new offensive coordinator was an employee of the 49ers.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, thank you. Yeah, Brian Flory.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 9: I forgot.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Brian Flory. He was as well. All right, Greg Bell,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: 10 to noon. He'll be back with you tomorrow at
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: 10 o'clock. In the meantime, go check out the newsroom
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: for the latest on the Seahawks sale being approved by
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: the owners. Thank you, my friend.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 8: Thank you, my friend.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: That's Greg Bell joining us. When we come back, John
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: Lund will join us from the aforementioned Bay Area. He's
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: got to answer a lot of things today. He's got
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: a lot to answer today. Oh, Lund does. York massages.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: What's up? We'll find out next. Now, from the Star
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: Runnels Sports.
• 1:20:09
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• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: M's winning last night over the Phillies. 4-1 Cal Raleigh.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: Home runs and four straight at-bats. Through last night. That
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: hasn't continued today. We've got lots of news in the NFL.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: Let's start first with the Seahawks sale being official. The
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: Coastal family now are the owners. They have to finish
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: off the transaction, the financials of it, as Greg Bell
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: just pointed out a second ago. But, The owners unanimously
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: approved it.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: 32-0.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: In terms of that sale. Also in the NFL, Athletic
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: is reporting the Pro Bowl is no more. Crushing defeat.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 8: Oh, no.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: There's actually ramifications for that. I'll get to that in
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: a second. If it's truly that's going to be the case.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: SEC has joined the Big Ten in prohibiting players who
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: have been drafted by the NFL, NBA, or WNBA and
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: been on the roster of those teams in those leagues.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: NCAA says they're going to follow suit. We'll see how
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: much juice and legs that actually has. As it goes on.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: Ready to go? Is he there?
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: All right. Holy cow. He's a Bay Area media icon
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: who's known Ian for over 25 years. But don't let
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: their age change your opinion of them. John takes you
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: through the Bay Area and the NFC West and dukes
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: it out with Ian over the Niners and the Hawks.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: So let's unleash it. Now with John Lund, here's Ian.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: There he is. A day late, but I wasn't here
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: yesterday anyway. Tell the truth. You'd rather just talk to
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: me than Benton, right? Hold on.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 5: I'm getting directions to a trailer park right now, so
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 5: I'm supposed to go right, and that's the trailer park there?
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks. Appreciate it. Sorry, what? What did you say?
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: Trailer park.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: What are you talking about, trailer park?
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: What are you talking about?
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: You've got a substation to worry about, fella. Don't worry
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: about a trailer park anywhere.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 5: You don't like where the Niner's owner went, the trailer park?
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 5: You don't like the story of the trailer park?
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing. I heard that if you're going to
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: get a massage, it's better to do it in Bellevue
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: at a Hyatt hotel.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: That's all I've heard. Oh, that's good.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: And claim it's after being sore from golf. That's what
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: I heard. I could be wrong.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: Well done.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: And if I'm being honest, if I'm going to be honest,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: and I think you would tend to agree, if you're
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: going to indulge in such things, just from a, I
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: don't know, hygiene standpoint, whatever, wouldn't you go to the
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: three or four star hotel before you go to the
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: single wide? I could be wrong.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot to this.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 5: I mean, just, you know, I mean, I really don't
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: even know where to start. I mean, it's just, you know,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 5: he called, he called three times.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: Like at that point, aren't.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 7: You thinking maybe this isn't for me.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: Pulls up in the trailer park.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 5: Then the trailer park releases a statement that says, Hey,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 5: we're a fine upstanding family trailer park. We don't, you know,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 5: he just happened to park here. We don't select like that's.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: An oxymoron by the way. That's an oxymoron right there.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: What you just said, would you say that's a fine
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: upstanding family friendly trailer park?
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 5: The guy, the guy, the guy who runs the trailer
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 5: park released a statement and says, Hey, we.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: Don't solicit prostitution here. You just having a park here.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 5: Like this isn't like, We're a family trailer, but the
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 5: whole thing is.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: Just like, wow, just unbelievable.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: The only way this could have been better, and I
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: guess would have been better, is instead of York, if
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: it would have been Tom Dundon down in Portland. That
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: would have been fantastic.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that would have been better.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: That would have been fantastic. For our friends down in
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: our former, where you and I both worked and so forth,
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: that would have been great if it was him.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 4: And also.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: A guy that made his living on high interest rate
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: car loans to those with bad credit, wouldn't that have
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: fit the mold better if it was Dundon as opposed
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: to York?
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, for sure.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, God. That would have been on brand. That
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: would have been on brand. Massage, trailer park, high interest
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: rate loans. Probably knows everybody in the trailer park.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: $ 140.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah, $ 140.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: He's negotiating down.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 5: I will not pay more than $ 140.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: My net worth is $ 50 billion, but yeah, that's what
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: we're going to do. What is the reaction down there
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: of the 49ers owner getting busted for quote-unquote a massage?
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 5: You know, it's everything from, you know, rationalizing because you're
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 5: a fan boys will be.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 7: Boys to certain people. And you know, certain columnists are
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 7: in certain cities, you know?
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: And then we got, we got the angry columnist.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 5: Who's like, you should revoke your fandom. And yeah, like
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 5: I get it, man. I got, it runs the gamut.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 5: It's embarrassing, but you know what? The greatest punishment of all.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 5: And anybody who has kids and you do, and I
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 5: do sometimes when they just do something so stupid, you
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 5: really don't even have to say anything. It's like, like
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 5: I came on the air that next, cause it was
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: maybe a half hour before my show.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: And I just popped on and I go, what do
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: you want me to say? Like, it's dumb.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 7: Oh God, this guy's brilliant.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 5: Love just comes up with these thoughts that no one
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 5: would think of.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: Like, of course it's dumb. It's the most embarrassing moment
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: of his life. Like it's just all these different things.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: And it's like, what do you want me to say?
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 7: Like it's, it's, it's, Every piece of it.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: That would come out was more moronic.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 5: And stupid than the next. He's sitting– and by the way,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 5: then it came out that he was going through a
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 5: divorce with his wife. He's living back in Ohio in
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 5: his parents' old house. I don't know if his parents
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 5: are there. I mean could you imagine as a billionaire,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 5: grown-ass man, billionaire, coming home, and your parents are sitting
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 5: in a house, and because you just got divorced, you're
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 5: just staying in their downstairs basement, and they're like.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: What are you doing?
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 5: It comes back to, I don't know if you remember this,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 5: but on the tonight show, Hugh Grant, the actor got
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 5: busted for this exact thing at like the height of it,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 5: like the height of his career and his PR people
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 5: were brilliant. And they put them on the tonight show
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 5: with Jay Leno. And the first question that Leno says
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 5: to him is they go, people are cheering and he's
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 5: kind of like, you know, he's embarrassed.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: He sits down and he's waiting for it.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 5: And Jay Leno says, what the hell were you thinking?
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: And it breaks the ice and everybody starts laughing.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 7: And, you know, it's like, you know, it just, what
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 7: are you going to say?
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: Nothing. Not even anything you can say. No.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 5: That's kind of where he's sitting right now, where it's like,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 5: you know, like the owner's meetings are today. Yeah.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: And there's reports like, like Jed York is not at
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: the owner's meetings. You don't say like, what is he
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: going to do? Show up there. Yeah.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: Well, the only guy that, I mean, he could have
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: shown up there and Robert Kraft would have gone. Yeah,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: I get it. That's fine.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: Him and Robert Kraft would be off in their own
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: little meeting.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 9: Really?
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, guys you don't want to be associated with. You're right, though.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it's just the look.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what is the NFL going to do to them?
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 5: I mean, they might do something, but it's like, my God,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 5: the embarrassment of it all is all the punishment you need.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: Your son, George, an esteemed now member of the sports media,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: he never probably gave you those moments. I don't think
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: he ever gave you those moments.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: Not quite like this.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: No, the Furness kids had their moments, the older one,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: the girl especially. But that was my wife. My wife
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: always says, it's just because you're your father's daughter. You're
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: just him. And she looks at him like, Mom, no,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: don't ever say that to me.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: That is quite the shot. It's an insult to both
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: her and me, I think is what it is. But
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: my mom listens to the show.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: She's listening.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: She'll get a chuckle. Sometimes it is a look. I
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: might have done something dumb in high school once. along
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: with some other guys at O'Day High School, got in
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: a lot of trouble, and didn't know that the school
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: had already called her and told her what I did.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: Didn't know. It was during finals week. Came home, ambling in,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: thinking I'm okay. My whole ride home, I'm driving home going, okay,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: how am I going to skirt this? I think there's
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: a way. First of all, they'll never know that I've
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: basically been expelled from a Catholic school. And I walk
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: through the patio. My mom's in the kitchen. I'll never
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: forget this. She's sitting there. And she looks out at
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: me and the look she gave me. And I'm like,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: I'm dead.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: That's the worst.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: I don't think she said anything. I honest to God,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: I don't think she said anything. I went in to
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: get some lunch. Didn't say anything like it was. And
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm it's like, please say something. Just whatever.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: I don't care. Yell at me.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: Yell at me.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: Just yell at me.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, you hit it right on the head.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 5: Anybody who has had kids, the most damaging thing that
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 5: happens to a kid is when you know you screwed up.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 5: and your parents won't yell at you, and they just
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 5: kind of give you, you know, I'm disappointed.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: Or that look or whatever.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 4: Oh, I'm disappointed.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you want.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 5: Them to unload because then you can, like, have venom
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 5: back at them. But if they just take it all
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 5: off and they never unburden you, it's like, oh, that's painful.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: So bad. It's painful.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 4: It is brutal.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: Well, meanwhile, we've got our own issues. Apparently the Seahawks
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: ownership has gone through, unanimously approved today, the Coastal family.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: the matriarch of the family points to her son and says,
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: he's a big 49ers fan. I'm sure Seahawks fans are
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: going to handle that. They're going to handle that well,
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: aren't they?
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: God.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 5: How are owners not a little bit smarter than that?
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 5: You know what the deal is.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: You just bought the Seahawks. There's no mention.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 7: I saw that same thing, and I'm like, what is.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: Wrong with you?
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: You got a laugh out of it.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: I know you did.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: I know you got a laugh out of it.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 5: Of it yeah well i mean for somebody who clearly
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 5: is so smart because you made a bunch of money
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 5: common sense for a lot of a lot of very
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 5: smart people is out the window you a lot of
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 5: it like you and i we may not have the
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 5: book smarts but we got the street smarts those people
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 5: have the book smarts they got no streets like.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: What do you what do you what are you doing
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: what are you.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: Doing well here's the thing but those people that are
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: that that rich most of them have the ability to
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: go buy that second third or fourth house so we
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: don't have to move home with mom and dad Apparently,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: except for one guy. Except for.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 3: One guy.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: One guy doesn't... Hey, the Pro Bowl's gone. I don't
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: know if you know that. They just announced... You know
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: who's really going to hate... Well, he's done now. I'll
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: tell you what this would have been. This would have
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: been the worst... If this would have happened like 10
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: years ago, the worst possible news for Russell Wilson. Because
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: I think... He's got like 10 Pro Bowls and like
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: eight of them were as an alternate. And those numbers
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: aren't 100% accurate. I don't want to text it 494.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: But he was the king. of being the alternate for
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: a Pro Bowl because Aaron Rodgers isn't going. Everybody quits.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: No one's going. So Russ would always be up because
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: he would just want to be a Pro Bowler. Now,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl actually might mean something. If you're a
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: Pro Bowler and there's no game but you're still a
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: Pro Bowler, well, they're not going to have to replace you.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: So that actually is a bad thing for some guys
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: with contracts and bonuses and stuff.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: It's, it's that.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 5: And then, you know, when, when guys are talking about
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 5: Canton and I don't know, maybe you guys already think
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 5: that rushes in, maybe he already is in.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 7: But he didn't win the second super bowl, which is
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 7: kind of like, okay.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: You got one. And it used to be enough to
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: just get one. And now they go, oh, you got
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: to have two.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 7: And I don't know that you need to, but you know,
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 7: then it, you know, they.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 5: Go back and say that 10 time pro bowler, five
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 5: time all pro, like, you know, they, they make your
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 5: they make your argument for you. And, you know, I don't,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 5: like I said, he may already be in, in your
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 5: eyes or people in Seattle's eyes, but I don't know.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 5: I think the end of his career really damaged him.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 5: So yeah, those kinds of things do matter in that
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 5: regard too.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: If you ask people here about Russ in the, in the,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: in the hall of fame, you're not going to get
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: a very good answer. I'll just tell you that right now. It,
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: But no, I think most of us, like you have,
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: I know you talked to our buddy Mike Sando. He's
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: on that committee. He does a great job with it.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: And he's the guy that would have to present him.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: He's got a long list of guys before he gets
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: to Russ, you know, starting with Mike Holmgren. Marshawn's on
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: that list. Earl's on that list. I mean, when Bobby
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: finally retires, I mean, Bobby... Bobby's in. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: Bobby's the first ballot. Well, there's only two middle linebackers
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: that have more first-team All-Pros than him ever, so he
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: should be first ballot. Luke Geekley's in. I mean, it's
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: not even close.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: Patrick Willis got in. I mean, yeah, he's definitely in.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, but it's like, you know, what Mike
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: says and others, it's not about the Pro Bowl, it's
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: about the All-Pros. about the all-price. In fact, 18 seconds ago,
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: Mike just tweeted, that means there will no longer be
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: Pro Bowl alternates. Okay.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: NFL should do this retroactively from a record-keeping standpoint so
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: there's uniformity.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: Sandoz wants them to get rid of all the alternate
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: Pro Bowls. Oh, Russ would be done. Oh, God. You
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: know what? He'd resign from CBS right away and try
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: to come back. That's what he would do.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: I guarantee you. Oh, thanks for.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 7: Reminding me, by the way, I'm never watching CBS.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: Never, never, never turn it on.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 5: Like what they should do is they should, they should,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 5: they should put like all these types on a.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 3: Of Misfit Toys and put like Pat McAfee and.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 5: Russell Wilson and Stephen A. They should just put them
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 5: all on an island. And if people want to watch
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 5: that one channel, that's great. The rest of us can
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 5: keep our sanity. That would be the island of Misfit Toys.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 5: My God.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: Put Tony Romo on there. All those guys. Put them
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 3: all over there.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 7: If you want to watch that channel, go ahead.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: I forgot about Tony Romo's offseason. It's been a hell
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: of an offseason for a couple of guys. All that
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be like, Pixar could make that. You know,
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: you got Toy Story, might as well just do Land
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: of Misfit Sports Toys.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 3: That'd be great.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: I'd watch that.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 5: That would be, it would be one of those things
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 5: where it'd be so.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: Bad, it'd be good. Oh my God.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: What's going on in 49er Land? Is anybody practicing yet?
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, well, you know, it's crazy.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 5: I just came across this number before I came on
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 5: with you. So preseason injuries right now, the 49ers, they're leaving.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 5: They're leaving a week from today.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 3: I was talking to a guy just now that's going
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: with the team to Australia. I'm not going there. And
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: they're leaving seven days from today.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 5: They have 26 injuries right now. Guys not practicing 26.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 5: And I know Seahawks fans are bummed because of Bud Clark.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 5: That was a great pick in the second round. You know,
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 5: it just happens in the preseason, but they have 26 injuries.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 5: Preseason injuries, the Saints have 16. They're number two. Nick
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 5: Bosa still hasn't practiced. McCaffrey's barely practicing. Kittle, even though
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 5: they took him off the pup list, that's going to
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 5: be real questionable. The doctors still have to say, yeah,
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 5: you can play. I mean, you know, it's just year in,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 5: year out. It's just all these injuries. And their offense
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 5: is all 30-plus. You and I have talked about this,
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 5: 30-plus-year-old guys. And they're not even trying to practice them.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 5: Mike Evans is out every day, and Trent Williams hasn't practiced.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 5: Most of their offense is 30-plus years old. Most of
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 5: their defense is way too young. And they're just in
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 5: a real quandary. You kind of talk about it, talk
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 5: about it, talk about it, and all of a sudden
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 5: you think to yourself, because the Rams are coming in
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 5: like a day before the game, the Niners are going
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 5: to go in a week before, and the Niners are
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 5: leaving in one week, and they have just a boatload
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 5: of injuries, and the season hasn't even started.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: Watching that hard knock, I thought it was one of
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: the revealing things, because I think a lot of teams
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: do this, and you just kind of mentioned a couple
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: of guys they're probably doing this with. you know, when
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald at the joint practice goes up, Cooper Cupp's
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: all dressed, ready to go. Like, and Cooper Cupp's a
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: football player. Like, he wants to play, right? Like, he's like,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: you're not going today. You're just, you're not, you're not practicing.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 3: I've seen enough.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: You had a great training. And he has, he had
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: a great training camp. He's looked good. He's, he's, he's
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: been a full goal all camp. Hasn't been limited. He's
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: been great. Cooper Cupp looks, I'll say this, looks far
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: different than last year. Last year, this time, he kind
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: of looked like an old man and he looks really good.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: And Mike says, you're getting shut down. I would think like,
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: that probably would be Trent Williams, right? You don't need
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: to see anything. Big man, we know what you can do.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: We'll see you week one down against the Rams. But yeah,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: like some of the other guys. Now, if I was
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: wondering about such a thing, such as, I don't know,
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: fantasy football, would you trust Kittle or McCaffrey this year?
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: I trust McCaffrey just because the thing is he's okay.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 3: He's 30.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 5: There's no doubt. He keeps himself in freaky shape. And so,
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 5: you know, am I going to take him ahead of,
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 5: you know, a Gibbs?
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 3: Or a B John Robinson?
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 3: But right after that, I mean, he's just, he's in
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 3: such freaky shape.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 5: And the other thing is, is that the, the, the
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 5: scary part for a team or a good part for
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 5: a fantasy owner is, is that this is the youngest
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 5: depth chart they've had behind him. Kalen black kid who
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 5: everybody knows played at Indiana last year and another kid,
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 5: they've got two really young backs behind him. And Kyle
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 5: doesn't trust anybody anyway.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 7: And it's like this, you know, he just keeps going
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 7: back to it.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 3: And every single year Kyle says the same thing.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 3: We're going to get off his feet. We're not gonna
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 3: play him as much.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 5: And then, you know, the first time out, he has,
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 5: you know, 35 touches in the first game, they're playing
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 5: the Rams.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just, he can't help it.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 5: And so even though he's 30 and that that's a
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 5: magical number, obviously I would trust him. Kittle's 32 coming
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 5: off an Achilles. Like I said, Mike Evans is 32.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 5: They're hardly using him in practice. They've got a lot
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 5: of age, but if there was one guy that's going
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 5: to defy age.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 3: It's going to be McCaffrey.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize Bosa hasn't practiced at all yet.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 7: No.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's been off to the side. He was,
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 3: you know, doing stuff early.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 5: In camp, but he's not doing any 7-on-7, nothing 11-on-11.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 5: He's doing drills, and then he's off to the side.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 5: And they keep telling us, hey, don't worry, don't worry,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 5: don't worry, don't worry. And a couple years ago, he
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 5: signed a contract extension and came right off the street
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 5: and was great. But this team had 20 sacks last year,
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 5: worse than the league. They couldn't get after anybody. And
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 5: so even if they have Bosa, they need something on
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 5: the other side. There's going to double and triple Bosa.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 5: But yeah, he, look, he's a great athlete. He's been
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 5: in great shape, but too much. He's mimicking his brother, which,
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 5: you know, Joey's out of the league and he's just
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 5: 30 plus years old.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: It's not like Joey Bosa is old.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 5: It's just, they train so hard and go at it
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 5: so hard. I just think that their, their bodies are
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 5: kind of given out on them.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: You know, I was just thinking, we'll get to this
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: in the next couple weeks. So you're not going to Australia?
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: They're saying there's no chance we're sending your ass down there?
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: That's not happening?
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 5: No, because, I haven't done anything like Jed York, but
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 5: I don't know if I can get back in the country.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 3: I think they'll let me leave. Yeah, I don't think
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 3: they'll let me back. I think they'll let me leave
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 3: the country. I don't think they'll let me come back
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: in the country.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: I think it's one of the smarter moves in a
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: while by KMBR and... And the 49ers, probably.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: No, it was me. My wife was like, go. Yeah,
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 3: I don't think you can come back.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 7: But I'm like, yeah.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 3: I got stuff to do here. I got kids and stuff.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 3: I don't think I can remember.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: No, I agree with you. Well, I was just going
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: through that, just thinking to myself for a second with
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: that game. I think if you're a Seahawks fan, I
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: think here, I think you're rooting for the 49ers.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 3: You have to. You have to. The Rams are a
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 3: bigger threat.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 5: I know you don't want to say this out loud,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 5: but if I was from L.A., you'd be saying this. Yeah,
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 5: because the Niners' number, I think they're over-under is like 10,
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 5: and I don't even know if they'll reach that with
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 5: all the injuries and age.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: And like I said, they're just in a weird place.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 3: They have a lot of age on offense.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 5: It's been around forever, and they have a lot of
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 5: youth outside of their two linebackers, Greenlaw and Warner.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 3: And Bosa, the rest.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 5: Of their defense is just unproven young guys. And so,
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 5: you know, I don't know how many games they'll win.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 5: Maybe they'll win eight or nine.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: The division's so good.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 5: But, you know, the Rams are a bigger threat to
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 5: me by far.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: I got to, before I go, because I know you
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: love hearing from our listeners up here. whether it's on
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 2: your national– are you still doing the national show? Are
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: you going to call me this weekend?
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: Am I doing the show this weekend?
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 5: I'm doing seven days a week. I was talking the
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 5: other day. I've got to get a break.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 3: You do. People are sick of hearing me. They're like, oh,
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 3: my God.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: Well, it's a different audience.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: It's a national audience.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: I'll read you two texts.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: I'll read you two texts, okay, and I'll let you react.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: First one comes from a 206 area code.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 4: Come on.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: Russell Wilson is a no-date, no-doubt Hall of Famer WTF. Wait,
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: Eli Manning's on line one. Eli Manning's here. Hello, Eli.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: What do you have to say about that, Eli?
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 3: If he doesn't throw the pick, maybe we're having a conversation.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 3: But he did. I mean, I don't make the rules.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 7: It's just there's a lot of guys, you.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 3: Know, Eli Manning, Jim Plunkett.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 5: There's a number of guys who won two Super Bowls
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 5: that are sitting there going that are probably before Russell Wilson.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 3: And like you said, Mike Sandoz is the type of
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 3: guy that's making the rule.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 5: People got to understand how this works. You got to
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 5: have somebody passionately go up there and defend you. And
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 5: if the guy who's going to do that, a guy
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 5: as good as Mike Sandoz, and he's not passionate about
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 5: putting the guy in that he's got to be passionate about.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: He's probably not getting in. Well, Mike just tweeted out
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: that retroactively, if you were an alternate pro bowler, you
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: should have that taken away, make it an even playing
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: field for those moving forward. That's 100% at Russ. That's
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: Mike saying, I don't want to deal with Russ. That's
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: what he's saying. And I'll leave you with this one
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: you'll really enjoy. I'm going to read it, and then
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: I'm going to stand back, and I'll let you, because
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: I've got to check and make sure you didn't text
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: this in. This Russell Wilson show of hate is so pathetic.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: You sound like a bum, always hating on him. What
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: a joke.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 4: Hack.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: Find some new material. He brought us our first Super Bowl.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: Set tons of quarterback records. Get over it. Go ahead, John.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 3: He was talking about you. I know he was.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's why I'm letting you react.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, okay.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 8: No, look.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 5: It's you have, you have your Seahawk colored glasses on
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 5: and that's okay. By the very nature of the word fan,
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 5: it's fandom. You don't have to be rational. You don't
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 5: have to be smart. You don't have to understand how
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 5: it works. You're 100% wrong. And he, if he's getting in,
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 5: it's going to be a really, really long time.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 3: And by the way, if you.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 5: Ever personally attack my friend, Ian Furness, who I can,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 5: but you can't, I'll punch you right in the face.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 3: That's right. I'm threatening you. It's assault or whatever. No,
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. You think I'd probably kick my ass.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably. He called me a joke hack. I find
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: that as a compliment, actually.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 3: You've been called worse.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, way worse.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 3: You've been called worse today on this show. I mean,
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 3: come on. We've said that about each other. That's worse.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, 100%. I'll get called worse when I get
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: home tonight.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 5: Does he realize that he's talking to the former Washington
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 5: State broadcaster of the year?
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 3: They don't just give that award to hacks. Okay.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: No, they don't give that a word to hash. Also Utah.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: Also Utah. But when I went in Utah, I think
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: I was in Utah.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: You, you just left. I think that's why I wanted to.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 7: The competition is really not that good in Utah.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 3: Who's there locked. I mean, no, he was gone.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: So he was gone. That's why he was gone. He
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: was in Seattle. I think, uh, I don't know who
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: would have been, uh, Greg Rubel, the voice of BYU.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 3: Maybe.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 7: He probably wins it just every year, and they just
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 7: play for second place.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 3: Go Cougars!
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: Actually, you know what? I did look it up the
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: other day to see who else was on that list.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: Because the list in Washington I kind of like. There's
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: some guys on there that are like, okay, I'm cool.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: The one in Utah, yeah.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got to say that. Those are peers of yours.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 3: Later in your life, you're like, those guys are hacks.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: The ones in Utah, I'll send you the list of
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: the guys in Utah, and you'll get a chuckle out
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: of it and go, yeah, Ian, you are a hack.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 7: You took all that ammunition away from that guy. He's
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 7: pissed right now.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 3: When you call yourself a hack after they called you
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 3: a hack, they're.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 6: Like, ah.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: Somebody said, London's just mad because Russell was the Niners'
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: daddy for years. Okay.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 3: Over Kaepernick. That's tough. That's a tough one to make.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: Now you're going to bring that up, and I'm going
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: to have to deal with you making Kaepernick.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, whatever. Now there's going to be all sorts of stuff.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 5: Now it's going to get political, and I get to leave,
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 5: and you have to deal with it.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: That's what you just did. All right. Well, we'll talk
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: to you next. Somebody did say, I love laughing with
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: you in London every week. It makes my week.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 3: We do appreciate that. Let's not take it too serious. But, yeah,
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 3: we're getting close.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: We're getting close.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 7: No more preseason injuries.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 3: Let's go.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: I think it is. And I think you're right. We're
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: up here in Seattle. We're all Niners. for that first game.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 6: Come on.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 3: Not rooting for the Rams.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 7: No.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 3: Sean McVay.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: Hey, I'll tell you what's going to happen here. We're
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: going to do this.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: You know, Stafford's playing really well.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 3: They're taking Aaron Donald. God.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 3: Aaron. Go Niners. Look, you don't have a choice anymore.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 3: You have Niners owners. That's John Lund.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: We lost John Lund. Where did John go?
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 3: The Niners owners.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: I think we just lost Lund.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 3: You're owned by the Niners. Literally owned by the Niners now.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 3: You know what? Enjoy that.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: How about if you just combine both teams? How good
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: would that team be? That would be pretty good. We've
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: got to hate each other.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 2: It's a lot more fun.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 5: We're almost to the regular season where we really have
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 5: to hate each other.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: That'll happen.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 3: It'll be great.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: That'll happen even more next week. All right. I'll talk
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: to you then.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 3: See ya. Right on.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 4: See ya.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: That's John Lund. I'm exhausted. We'll check the rest of
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: your texts. This hack will.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 7: Next.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 3: This is the Ancient Mariner.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 5: After two incredible, miraculous wins, I'm healed.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: I'm 40 years old again. Well, I got news for you.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 2: I got news for you, fella. Today, you may be
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: old again. Today, you may be old again. We'll see.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 3: We'll see. Well done.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, what do we got going on here? Oh, I'll
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: read this one, 253. Ian, I don't know if you
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: know what the Mendoza line... When I say the Mendoza line,
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: I was talking not about the 200. I was talking
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: about the worst batting average ever. For a qualifying player
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: in Major League history. That's what I was talking about.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: We've talked about that enough times. I don't have to
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: keep going through that.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 3: Let's see.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: If you think this team will win the World Series
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: and you're more deluded, I think he meant delusional, but
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: more deluded than I've ever given you credit for.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 3: I'm deluded.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: I'm a deluded drink. That's what I.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 3: Am, deluded.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: But if I'm delusional, yeah, sure.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 3: Sure, sure, sure.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: God, Keith, I'm going to get back to that in
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: a second.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 3: Damn it.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: Keith had a good one early, but I got to
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: get to that.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 3: Let's see.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: I'm going to excuse all the Mariner conversation right now
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: just because of what's going on today. Yes, I will
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: say this. Me pumping up the tires of Brian Wu,
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: maybe not the best idea. You're saying it's your fault?
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: What's happening? Just be careful what you ask for.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 4: That's all.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's see. What do we got going on here? Ian,
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: thanks for the hardcore college football talk. Always gets me
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: hyped as we enter the football season. Yeah, if you
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: missed earlier, we had Stuart Mandel on. Weekly business begin
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: now every Wednesday. He does a great job. His podcast,
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: The Audible, is good, but obviously working on The Athletic.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: You'll see his stuff there.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 3: He's great.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: We love Stuart. Talked about all things college football as well.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: Let's see what else. Not that I'm an advocate for
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: the 206th. Not that I'm advocating for a new stadium,
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: but Seahawks ownership controls zero real estate around Lumen. It's
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: not about capacity. It's about adjacent controlled revenue streams, i.e.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 3: Businesses.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 2: I tend to disagree a little bit. I think that
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: the thought that you need to have control of the
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: quote-unquote entertainment disc around your stadium is really important to owners.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. Climate pledge does. And I think
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: they have one roof. I think they have a little
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: bit of a stake in Tom's watch bar, but not
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: enough to matter.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: Like on the bigger grand scheme of things, especially cause
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: you look at, you know, all the other things around there,
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: they don't control the Queen Anne beer hall. Uh, the
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: new gantry, I guess is there. I mean, other stuff.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: So I don't think that matters to them. For example,
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: I think with the Seahawks, it's revenue streams inside the stadium. Uh, Concessions,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: parking at, you know, if you park in their parking
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: lot or parking structure. But mostly it's suite sales, permanent signage,
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: those types of corporate partnerships. But if you can increase
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: capacity by $ 5, 000 or $ 10, 000 and you're paying good money
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: for it, it's pretty good.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: You're kind of liking that at that point, right?
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 3: I would think.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I don't know if that's the case. Man,
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: I love our listeners sometimes. This is a great one.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: If Tom Dundon had solicited a prostitute, would he have
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: put her name on the Stanley Cup? I think the
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: answer is yes. I think one of the kids would
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: have gotten nixed out. Or your third string goalie.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 3: You're out.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: Sorry. I know you had that shutout in the Stanley
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: Cup playoffs, but I mean, I got to put Cinnamon's
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: name on there for sure.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 3: Cinnamon.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: Whatever his name is. Where's Keith Miller? I forgot to
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: do this, Keith. I didn't see it until just now.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 2: If you guys talk to Lund today, can you ask
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: him to get me an IU autograph unless he's too
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: busy meeting Jed at a trailer park in Ohio? Oh,
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: that's good. That is good. That is so good.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 3: Along the way. I will.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: I will point out just on a quick little thing here.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 2: Most people, while they still agree that I'm a hack,
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: are laughing at Russell Wilson as a Hall of Famer.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: I think it'd be cool for us as a Hall
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: of Famer, to be honest with you. It'd be awesome.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, I want more Seahawks in there. His resume was...
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: flimsy at best. And then the last few years did,
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: he did nothing to help it. So I think it
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: would be hard, uh, really hard for that as well.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 3: I think we're good. We all good.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, somebody that I want to know the ultimate cage
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: or comedy collab, Ian and softy having London Petros all
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: on together, not enough oxygen in the room, like not
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: enough oxygen.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 3: In the room.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: That would be, that would go on for hours. Well,
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: and it would be four people talking over each other
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: because two people will be talking over each other here
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: in a minute. So they, Are you at Petros in
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: London at the same time?
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 3: No chance. No chance.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 2: Softy joins us next. Well, we want to welcome everyone
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 2: who's tuning in the last half hour or so, maybe
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: with us for a while. But our guy, Dave Softy Mahler,
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: joins me right now.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 4: Hello, sir. Hello.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 8: Hello.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: Hello, David.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 4: I think it's been since the first inning.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think you're probably right, judging
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: by the number of texts we got today.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 4: First of all, the guy has been marvelous at home
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 4: all year. Yes, he has. I mean, this is his
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 4: worst start in four months.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 4: Brian, we were talking about this.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 11: Every other start besides this one and the one on
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 11: May 1st against Kansas City, he's allowed two runs or less.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 4: Yep. And every other home start.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 4: So it's bound to happen.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 11: But I also do wonder a little bit when Brian
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 11: Wu woke up and saw that lineup they were throwing
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 11: out there today for him, if he just said, you
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 11: know what, there's only so much gas left in my
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 11: tank this year, I'm.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 4: Not going top speed today. Not for these guys.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 11: Patrick Wisdom, Weston Wilson, Brock Rodden, Johnny Pareda. I mean,
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 11: the bottom of that lineup looks like they literally forgot
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 11: they had to fill out a lineup and just went
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 11: and grabbed five guys from the stands.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they took a shuttle bus up from Tacoma or
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: something from the Cheney Stadium along the way.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 11: And hey, look, I mean, Weston Wilson and Wisdom and Parada,
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 11: they've all served their role, I think, on this team.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 4: But you're playing them all at one time?
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 11: And then you're going to leave Dom Kenzone out of
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 11: the lineup, who's got an 838 OPS versus lefties. Naylor's
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 11: hitting 291 against lefties.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: I thought it was a weird tap out in that
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: sense because you have a day off tomorrow. If you
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 2: don't have a day off tomorrow, then.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 4: Well, you're traveling to Toronto probably tonight, right?
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 4: To get to Toronto.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: And have a full day off.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 4: Have a full day off in Toronto tomorrow, right. I
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 4: don't know, man. They're smarter than us, I guess. It's
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 4: why we're here and they're over there.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: Are you devastated the Pro Bowl is no more?
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 4: Oh, I'm so excited, man.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 11: Although I'm a little bit irritated because how much content
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 11: have we come up with in the last 10 years
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 11: bitching about the Pro Bowl that.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 4: We no longer have access to?
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 11: It's like Petros and LeBron, right? I mean, all the
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 11: guy does is complain about LeBron on his show every
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 11: single freaking day for the last five, six, seven years,
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 11: and now he's gone.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 4: What's he supposed to do now?
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: Well, I did laugh when you asked him that like
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 2: two weeks ago, and he kind of sloughed it off,
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, no, that's your show.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 4: Huge part of his show. Yeah, what do you do?
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 4: Huge part of his show.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 3: What do you do?
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 11: Well, one day we'll be able to tell our kids
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 11: or grandkids or, in my case, my nephews and nieces,
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 11: they used to have an all-star game.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 4: The NFL, they called it the Pro Bowl.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: Called the Pro Bowl.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 4: And they used to play it in Hawaii. In a
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 4: stadium that's no longer there, by the way.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, Uncle Dave, what stadium is that? Oh,
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: it's the one that got torn down.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they used to play a football game in Hawaii
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 4: every year.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if you saw this. Sando is
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: pushing for all the guys that were alternate Pro Bowlers
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: to have that erased from the records so it's an
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: even playing field moving forward for all players.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 4: So that means Russell Wilson is now a five-time Pro Bowler.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 2: I'll let you say that.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 11: But that's what he's talking about. That's what you mean?
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: That's what he means, yes.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 4: How many times was he an alternate pro bowler, Russell Wilson?
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: That's a humilling question. He's got that at the tip
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: of his tongue, and I almost texted him asking. I
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: think it's over half of the times he made it.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 4: I'm going to look it up right now. Google AI.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 2: Do they say it? I mean, Mike's got– I think
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: what Mike is– Mike, if you're listening, I'm somewhat tongue-in-cheek here.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 4: Did he say that or are you making that up?
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 2: No, he had it on Twitter. He put it on Twitter.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 4: He was an alternate five times. Five times.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 11: So he would go from a 10-time Pro Bowl selection,
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 11: which sounds pretty impressive, right?
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 4: A 10-time Pro Bowl?
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: Really impressive, yeah.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 4: To five. Man, that's different, Jay.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 4: Father Huntley is a never-time Pro Bowler if that happens?
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of guys probably that are never-time Pro Bowlers, right? Yeah,
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of guys like that. So why does
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 2: he want that erased from the record? Because when you're
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 2: looking at four things like the Hall of Fame, right?
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: And you're looking at all these resumes, and as we
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: all know how hard it is to get in that
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: damn thing in Canton.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: He thinks it would be a lot better if it
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: was an even playing field. So right now, you could
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: go and say, well, Russ was a 10-time Pro Bowler. No,
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 2: he's five. And you're comparing him to quarterback B, who's
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 2: going to be eligible in seven or eight years. He's
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: a five-time Pro Bowler. But it's actually five times he
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 2: was named as an NFC Pro Bowler.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 11: Why don't the voters just look up how many times
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 11: they were initial... participants and how many times they were
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 11: all throws.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: Here's my theory, and again, Mike, this is tongue-in-cheek, sort of.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 4: Just look it up.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: No, this is tongue-in-cheek. I don't think Mike wants to
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 2: present Russ as a Hall of Famer.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 4: I got you.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 2: I think that's what it is, and I don't blame him.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 2: I think it would be a hard one.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 11: A five-time Pro Bowler, just on the surface, right? A
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 11: five-time Pro Bowler who never got an MVP vote doesn't
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 11: strike you as a Hall of Fame quarterback.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 2: And was never a first-team All-Pro.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 7: Correct.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 8: No.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 4: Did he ever lead the league in anything, passing-wise, like touchdowns, whatever?
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 2: Couches.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 4: Oh, God, that's a good one. Yeah.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 2: That's under that.
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 8: I don't know, man.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 11: I mean, I guess I understand what Mike is talking about,
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 11: that it just makes the voting process that much cleaner.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 2: Cleaner. I think it's just cleaner. Then you're not facing
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: the backlash of someone saying, well, God, he was here
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 2: at Pro Bowl 12 times. Yeah, but twice he was
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 2: actually at Pro Bowl. The other 10 times is like
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 2: he's the ninth guy they picked.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 11: He led the league in touchdowns one time in 2017.
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 11: That's it. Never made first-team All-Pro.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 4: Never got an MVP vote.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 3: Nope.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 4: And now he's only a five-time Hall of Famer. Yeah,
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 4: he's out. He's done.
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's any chance.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 11: Russell Wilson just lost the Hall of Fame.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 2: Devastating day. Thanks to Mike Sando. And, sir, because the
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 2: Pro Bowl exists no more.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 2: Next up, no more preseason, and you'll have a party.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 2: So you will celebrate that.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 4: Hey, how about just no more season? How about that?
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 4: How about we just play Madden?
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 2: We like the season, and we just don't like it.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 2: This thing on Friday is going to be a joke. Like,
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: worse than ever, I think, right? Kansas City-Seattle, the final
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 2: preseason game.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 4: Oh, I hadn't even thought of that. I'm like, what's
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 4: happening Friday?
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 7: No.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: Toronto and Seattle. Toronto, Seattle. That's obviously Friday. What do
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 2: you got going on today?
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 4: Let's see.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 11: Mike Florio will join us. Petros will join us at 4.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 11: We'll talk to Mike about this Pro Bowl thing, by
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 11: the way. I'm glad that you brought that up because
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 11: I didn't know that. He'll join us at 4 o'clock.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 11: And then Larry at 5.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 4: And then I believe we are here at UW.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 9: Where?
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 4: UW. Are you going to the Apple Cup next Sunday?
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 8: No.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 4: You son of a bitch.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 4: You Cougar fans, man. What happened to you people?
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 2: Well, I haven't gone since 2007. Unbelievable. I haven't gone
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 2: to your stadium since 2007.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 11: I cannot tell you how many Cougar buddies of mine
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 11: have no interest in going to this game next Sunday.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: Listen, I'd rather sit at home, and if things go south,
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: I've got a lot more ability to drown my sorrows
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 2: in having to get home.
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 11: Your team comes to town once a year, and you
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 11: can't even get off your ass to go watch them play.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 2: I'll watch him play on TV. It's on National Fox.
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 4: You know what? Kudos to you for owning it, man.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 2: And I'll listen to you, my favorite sideline reporter, or
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 2: whatever you're doing.
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right.
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: You doing play-by-play? What are you doing?
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 4: I'm doing the whole thing. Okay, good. I'm going to
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 4: do play-by-play and color from the sideline.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 2: I'll let Cam know he's out. Cam, you're out!
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 3: Alright, see ya.
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 2: For the mild-mannered and marginally objectionable Ian Furness, this is
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 2: Paddle Day saying so long, everyone.