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‘Tech Tuesday’ with Rich DeMuro | Gen Z Turning to 'Dumb Phones' · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI a
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  Speaker 2: KFI Bill Handle here on a Tuesday morning, August fourth,
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  Speaker 2: some of the stories we are following. The President said
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  Speaker 2: that today was going to be some kind of a
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  Speaker 2: deal announced and Iran's coming to the table. Don't know
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  Speaker 2: about that, and he said, if not, then a major
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  Speaker 2: attack more than World War two is going to hit Iran.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see. And today's day, according to the President.
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  Speaker 2: Now Rich on Tech with Rich Dumurrow. We do this
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  Speaker 2: every Tuesday. His website is rich on Tech dot tv.
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  Speaker 2: He is a host here on KFI eleven am to
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  Speaker 2: two pm. His instagram is at rich on Tech, and
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  Speaker 2: he's on KTLA every day as the tech guy Rich.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, Good morning to you. Bill. Okay, oh, this
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  Speaker 1: one I want to go.
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  Speaker 2: It's in the middle of our topics. But I really
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  Speaker 2: enjoy this topic because I happen to be a football fan.
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  Speaker 2: So the best NFL Sunday ticket deals and football season
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  Speaker 2: is just about here. Several ways to save on NFL
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  Speaker 2: Sunday tickets this year, and I'm assuming one of those
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  Speaker 2: ways is to become a big fan of professional pickleball.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Yes, that will get you right into the best
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  Speaker 3: discount that you can get. No. I kind of did
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  Speaker 3: this research, you know, for myself because my kid is
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  Speaker 3: a big NFL football fan. We're going to subscribe to
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  Speaker 3: Sunday Ticket and it can cost as much as four
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  Speaker 3: hundred and eighty dollars if you're paying it all up
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  Speaker 3: front or you don't have one of these discounts. So
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  Speaker 3: let me go through the ways that you can get
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  Speaker 3: this now, just to preface this, for many many years,
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  Speaker 3: Sunday Ticket was a direct TV thing. In recent years
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  Speaker 3: it has moved to YouTube TV. They are kind of like,
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  Speaker 3: I guess Google kind of owns the rights to it.
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  Speaker 3: You don't need a YouTube TV subscription to get it,
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  Speaker 3: although that is an easy way to integrate it into
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  Speaker 3: your YouTube TV. You can just watch it through the
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  Speaker 3: regular YouTube app. They have this thing called Primetime channels,
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  Speaker 3: and so that's that's the way to watch it if
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  Speaker 3: you don't have YouTube TV anyway, without further ado, the
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  Speaker 3: best deal is Verizon and they are giving it away
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  Speaker 3: for free, but there's a bunch of catches with that.
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  Speaker 3: You basically have to either upgrade your wireless plan, upgrade
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  Speaker 3: your home internet plan, or you need to buy a
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  Speaker 3: new phone through them, and they will give you.
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  Speaker 1: That Sunday ticket for free.
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  Speaker 3: If you're an existing customer of Verizon, this is probably
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  Speaker 3: the second best offer. You can get this Sunday ticket
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  Speaker 3: for two hundred and thirty four dollars. All you have
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  Speaker 3: to do is log into your Verizon account. I've got
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  Speaker 3: the link on my website, rich on tech dot tv
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  Speaker 3: that'll bring you right to the page you sign up.
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  Speaker 3: You basically pay through them, and then you can watch
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  Speaker 3: it as you usually would. If you're a student, this
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  Speaker 3: is a pretty good deal. College students can get Sunday
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  Speaker 3: ticket for one hundred and nineteen dollars. But what you
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  Speaker 3: have to do is verify your status through a company
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  Speaker 3: called sheer Id, basically bill. A lot of these companies
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  Speaker 3: now instead of doing their own student discount kind of
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  Speaker 3: verification programs, they just outsource it. So if you're a student,
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  Speaker 3: you can verify yourself one time through a service like
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  Speaker 3: sheer Id, and then you can take advantage of all
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  Speaker 3: the different discounts that companies offer with your student ID.
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  Speaker 3: So that's one hundred and nineteen dollars. If you're military veterans, teachers,
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  Speaker 3: first responders, you can get Sunday ticket for one hundred
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  Speaker 3: and ninety eight dollars. Again, you do have to verify
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  Speaker 3: your eligibility. They're using a service called id dot me.
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  Speaker 3: You might have heard of this if you're a teacher, military,
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  Speaker 3: it's very common, but you can get that for one
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  Speaker 3: hundred ninety eight. The other way to get it is
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  Speaker 3: through YouTube, and basically, if you're a new customer, they
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  Speaker 3: give you a sweetheart deal of two hundred and forty dollars.
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  Speaker 3: Returning subscribers definitely pay a little bit more. If you
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  Speaker 3: have YouTube TV, it's a little bit cheaper, but of
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  Speaker 3: course many people will be paying that full four hundred
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  Speaker 3: and eighty dollars if they don't qualify for any of
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  Speaker 3: the discounts.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I find it stunning that to watch NFL football on
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  Speaker 2: TV you can pay four hundred dollars for the season
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  Speaker 2: or two hundred dollars. I mean, it just seems astronomical.
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  Speaker 2: And most of the games, well not most of them.
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  Speaker 2: You can see a lot of games for free on
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  Speaker 2: the networks. But again, if your team is playing you know,
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  Speaker 2: away game and someplace else that's not covered, I guess
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  Speaker 2: you want to see it. But I find that just
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  Speaker 2: insanely expensive. And I'm an NFL fan. And then do
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  Speaker 2: they do what Baseball does because I don't pay attention
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  Speaker 2: to the Sunday ticket sales?
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  Speaker 1: Do they?
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  Speaker 2: As the season progresses, you pay less and less, So
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  Speaker 2: the last half of the season you pay X dollars
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  Speaker 2: the last three games. Like baseball, if you watch seventh inning,
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  Speaker 2: seventh eighth and ninth inning of the last game of
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  Speaker 2: the season, you get a pretty good deal.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll give it, They'll they'll pay you to watch that. No,
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  Speaker 3: they YouTube t NFL Sunday ticket definitely does that towards
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  Speaker 3: the end of the season because you know, they make
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  Speaker 3: money no matter what, so they want to get you
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  Speaker 3: on board at the beginning, but they're happy to take
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  Speaker 3: you on board at the end too. You'll just pay less.
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  Speaker 3: Of course you're getting less games included. But like you said,
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  Speaker 3: even if you purchase this NFL Sunday ticket, you don't
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  Speaker 3: get to watch every game. There are still blackouts. Basically,
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  Speaker 3: if your local team is playing on a local station
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  Speaker 3: and it's being aired in your market, you have to
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  Speaker 3: find that channel. And that can mean if you don't
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  Speaker 3: have a you know, cable TV or satellite or one
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  Speaker 3: of these streaming packages, you may not have access to
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  Speaker 3: that channel. So there it gets very complicated for NFL
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  Speaker 3: because it is still probably the biggest ticket in towns
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  Speaker 3: sports wise, and so they know that and they will
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  Speaker 3: try to get money out of folks best they can.
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  Speaker 3: So whereas if you look at something like the MLS,
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  Speaker 3: Apple TV bought them and now they give it to
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  Speaker 3: you for free. I believe it's included in like some
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  Speaker 3: sort of Apple membership, but it's a lot easier, and
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  Speaker 3: it's every game, by the way, not just some games.
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  Speaker 3: So maybe that'll happen with NFL one day. All right, Rich,
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  Speaker 3: you rode in a solar powered car. Now, they've been
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  Speaker 3: around for a long time, but just really experimental university
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  Speaker 3: teams kind of the kind of cars.
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  Speaker 1: Is this one different than that? Yes?
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  Speaker 3: And it's funny you say that, because that's really the
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  Speaker 3: image I had in my head of the solar cars,
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  Speaker 3: all these university teams that compete to build these gliders
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  Speaker 3: that are powered by the sun. This is this is
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  Speaker 3: very different. This is a real vehicle, even though it
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  Speaker 3: is three wheeleds, so it's it's actually technically considered like
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  Speaker 3: a I think they call it like some sort of
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  Speaker 3: motorcycle situation. But it's at Terra. That's the company. They're
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  Speaker 3: based in San Diego. They've been promising this car for
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  Speaker 3: a very long time. And I'll be honest, Bill, I
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  Speaker 3: kept kind of putting them off because you know, I said, look,
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  Speaker 3: this thing seems very prototype, and so can you get
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  Speaker 3: me like in this thing? And they said, we'll drive
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  Speaker 3: it up to LA and I said, okay, now you're talking.
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  Speaker 3: Now I know this thing actually does work. So they
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  Speaker 3: brought it up here. It looks like a fish. It's
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  Speaker 3: very aerodynamic. It's got solar panels plastered all over the
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  Speaker 3: roof and the front and the back, and those solar
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  Speaker 3: panels can generate enough electricity for up to forty miles
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  Speaker 3: of driving without plugging it in. The total range is
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  Speaker 3: about four hundred miles. Now, this thing is lightweight, it's aerodynamic,
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  Speaker 3: but I will tell you the ride was pretty rough
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  Speaker 3: because it is very prototype. But it's got all the
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  Speaker 3: modern conveniences like you know, tablet in the middle that
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  Speaker 3: shows you how much energy you're creating. Also bluetooth air conditioning,
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  Speaker 3: the doors pop open with a knock. It's a pretty
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  Speaker 3: cool looking car. Forty thousand bucks that's what they're targeting.
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  Speaker 3: But again it's like, when are we actually going to
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  Speaker 3: see this thing in driveways?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so a couple of questions about that. One. I'm
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  Speaker 1: assuming it's a one person car. Is that correct?
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  Speaker 3: Two people?
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  Speaker 2: Ooh?
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  Speaker 1: Two people?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So you're driving around with a solar
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  Speaker 2: powered car. What do you do during solar eclipses?
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  Speaker 1: Well, or how about it? Or how about at night?
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  Speaker 3: Well, okay, I mean number one solar eclipses, Like, that's
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  Speaker 3: only a couple of times a year, so I think
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  Speaker 3: it'll be okay. But yes, the nighttime, Yes, you charge
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  Speaker 3: this thing up. You do have to plug it. You
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  Speaker 3: do have to charge it in this are sorry, you
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  Speaker 3: do have to park it in the sun. So I mean,
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  Speaker 3: this is the thing. You don't really want to have
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  Speaker 3: this thing in a parking garage during the day. You
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  Speaker 3: don't want to have it in your garage at night.
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  Speaker 3: But there is a battery in this vehicle as well,
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  Speaker 3: which can give you a total range of about four
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  Speaker 3: hundred miles, and you can plug it into Tesla chargers.
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  Speaker 3: You can plug it in at home do an overnight charge.
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  Speaker 3: So again, this is a very quirky vehicle for someone
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  Speaker 3: who wants either something super cutting edge, wants to literally say, hey,
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  Speaker 3: look I only drive based on the sun, and you
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  Speaker 3: know everything else is free. So it's definitely a niche
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  Speaker 3: kind of audience.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we think. I'm sure they're not going to sell
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  Speaker 1: very much in Seattle, for.
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  Speaker 3: Example, or probably not unless they figure out a rain
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  Speaker 3: powered car.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's kind of interesting, and you're right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's forty thousand dollars, so it really is more
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  Speaker 2: of a toy than anything else.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, are you going to use it to go
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  Speaker 1: to work? Maybe? Maybe? Yeah, people use use you know,
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  Speaker 1: they use e bikes, so why not? Okay, Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: that's what I think it's for.
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  Speaker 3: Like someone who is really quirky, kind of like wants
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  Speaker 3: something cutting edge, like the people who bought the first evs,
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  Speaker 3: like that EV one from GM. You know, they're very expensive,
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  Speaker 3: they only one a couple miles. But someone like that
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  Speaker 3: that just wants to be different.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, do you see solar powered cars as a wave
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  Speaker 2: of the future that they really are going to be
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  Speaker 2: solar powered cars? And I'm assuming because efficiency, because of technology,
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  Speaker 2: I can see it, can you.
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  Speaker 3: I could see it helping the electric car, you know,
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  Speaker 3: what I mean, Like where in southern California, especially you're
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  Speaker 3: parking your car in the sun all day. It can
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  Speaker 3: help cool down the car, it can help recharge, you know,
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  Speaker 3: trickle charge the car. I think that it's a good
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  Speaker 3: add on, and we've seen other companies do this, like
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  Speaker 3: Prius had some sort of solar panel on the top
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  Speaker 3: of their cars that I think helped with like air
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  Speaker 3: conditioning or cooling the car when it was parked, so
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  Speaker 3: I could see that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I still think a regular battery is going to be
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  Speaker 3: best for most people that are driving just because they
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  Speaker 3: want that range. But I think that hey, if it
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  Speaker 3: becomes cheap enough to add it to an existing EV,
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  Speaker 3: why not. I mean, it's kind of a cool option
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  Speaker 3: and a half.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I can see it just helping out adding
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  Speaker 2: to your range on an EV where it powers the
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  Speaker 2: powers the battery even more. All right, Rich, we are
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  Speaker 2: none until next week, or at least until Saturday eleven
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  Speaker 2: to two right here on KFI. Rich on Tech dot
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  Speaker 2: tv is a website. Tons of information this morning on
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  Speaker 2: KTLA and Instagram at rich On Tech. All right, Rich,
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  Speaker 2: have a good one. Enjoy the sun bill. Okay, all right,
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  Speaker 2: A story of ICE. When ICE isn't using people as
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  Speaker 2: target practice, what they are doing is collecting DNA, and
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  Speaker 2: the DNA collection by ICE has skyrocketed in the second
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  Speaker 2: term of the Trump administrations. Hundreds of thousands of people
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  Speaker 2: never convicted of a crime are now in the FBI
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  Speaker 2: Criminal Data Database, and I mean for ever. So there
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  Speaker 2: is a sweeping expansion of DNA collection for people held
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  Speaker 2: for civil immigration violations, federal campaign backed by the threat
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  Speaker 2: of prosecution at What it does is funnel the genetic
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  Speaker 2: profiles of nearly everyone in ICE into the FBI database,
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  Speaker 2: which was built only for criminal investigation the Department of
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  Speaker 2: Homeland Security. It has become the largest single source of
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  Speaker 2: new genetic profiles in that criminal data base, ICE alone
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  Speaker 2: adding what over nine hundred and twenty thousand profiles last year.
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  Speaker 2: Now Here is where it gets a little sketchy. The
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  Speaker 2: vast majority of people in ICE in custody have no
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  Speaker 2: criminal conviction at all and residing in the US, living
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  Speaker 2: in the US undocumented, being illegal here.
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  Speaker 1: Is typically a civil, not a criminal offense.
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  Speaker 2: So the database is collected in the criminal database of
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  Speaker 2: the FBI for what appears to be well, what is
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  Speaker 2: a civil infraction and that is a no no. And
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  Speaker 2: by the way, that stays for decades forever. And what
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  Speaker 2: law enforcement does, what this does codis fbis combined DNA
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  Speaker 2: index system is so the FBI can compare actually, police
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  Speaker 2: forces all over the country can compare this DNA against
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  Speaker 2: unsolved crimes. Crime seeing DNA collected for years decades from
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  Speaker 2: now and the physical sample holding a person's entire genome.
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  Speaker 2: Everything the DNA stays in a federal laboratory and definitely
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  Speaker 2: in stays on that database. Oh, the expansion of this
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  Speaker 2: DNA collection has extended to families held in in immigration detention,
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  Speaker 2: including kids. Now that is problematic. A kid is picked up,
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  Speaker 2: detained with his or her family and is subject to
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  Speaker 2: a DNA test and that is collected, and civil libertarians
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  Speaker 2: have gone a little crazy. So when DHS was asked
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  Speaker 2: about this, it defended DNA collection as a border security
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  Speaker 2: and identification measure, said that the Border Patrol takes samples
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  Speaker 2: from people arrested on federal charges and from detained non
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  Speaker 2: citizens illegal aliens who are subject to fingerprinting and not exempt.
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  Speaker 2: And asked about the children who were submitted to this
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  Speaker 2: FBI database, DHS said, it's really about using it to
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  Speaker 2: verify family relations. All we're using it for is to
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  Speaker 2: make sure those kids belong to those parents, and that
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  Speaker 2: basically is.
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  Speaker 1: A complete CROC.
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  Speaker 2: New report suggests that, of course, there is a different
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  Speaker 2: phase entered in twenty twenty five that the quote DNA
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  Speaker 2: detaineex index of codis people who have never been arrested,
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  Speaker 2: not even accused of any crime. That is now three
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  Speaker 2: million profiles by December of twenty twenty five, growing by
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  Speaker 2: about a million alone a year alone, a million per year.
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  Speaker 2: That's twenty seven hundred people a day, every day, every year.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: When asked about it, the FBI said, now, we don't
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  Speaker 2: disclose which agency submitted the DNA profile, because you will
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  Speaker 2: the DNA is collected. Like let's say you go to
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  Speaker 2: a police station, you're arrested. They're going to take a
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  Speaker 2: DNA swab, They're going to take a cheek swab, is
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  Speaker 2: what they normally do, and that is goes that the
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  Speaker 2: information then goes into the coda's file. I mean, this
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  Speaker 2: is really really scary stuff. In two thousand and five,
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  Speaker 2: Congress authorized federal agencies to collect people DNA from people
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  Speaker 2: arrested who a charge, who are convicted or detained, and
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  Speaker 2: that includes kids. Under federal authority, most people were allowed
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  Speaker 2: an exemption.
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  Speaker 1: The law is there.
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  Speaker 2: We can grab anybody detained, entire families who are detained.
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  Speaker 2: We can grab DNA from everybody. And obviously there are
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  Speaker 2: a few people that are upset about this because, well
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  Speaker 2: it's very expansive, and some people are arguing, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: we have some civil rights here. You know, think now,
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  Speaker 2: ICE training materials. Let's say you're going to become an
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  Speaker 2: ICE agent. Well, the training materials instruct officers to warn
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  Speaker 2: people that refusing to provide a sample is a federal crime.
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  Speaker 2: If you say no, thank you, that's a federal crime,
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  Speaker 2: and then that case is referred to the Department of
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  Speaker 2: Justice for prosecution.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that fun? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: You think ICE has a few problems, just a few,
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  Speaker 2: All right, let us talk about what we used to have.
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  Speaker 2: And I know it's a little bit dated. It puts
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  Speaker 2: us a little bit older than most kids out there,
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  Speaker 2: or certainly gen Z's, and that is they are embracing.
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  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I'm embracing flip phones. Flip
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  Speaker 2: phones were the first the first mobile phones, the cell phones. Actually,
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  Speaker 2: I think they were around before even sell technology was there,
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  Speaker 2: and Motorola had the first won the razor, and it
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  Speaker 2: was you'd just flip it open, and I loved it.
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  Speaker 2: It held nicely, it became a speaker. I loved them.
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  Speaker 2: And they of course gone gone, gone the way of
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  Speaker 2: the Dodo bird. Well, and because phones took on an
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  Speaker 2: entire new look with that small book if you will,
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  Speaker 2: that the rectangular, tiny, thin phone. Well, guess what, they're
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  Speaker 2: coming back. They are coming back. So you talk about
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  Speaker 2: the generation that grew up with smartphones and social media
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  Speaker 2: and constant notification, they're going back to flip phones. Also,
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  Speaker 2: final records, also film cameras, paper planners, handwritten journals. And
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  Speaker 2: I still talk about a Rolodex. And I'll say something
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  Speaker 2: to Lindsey. I go, all right, let me check my rolodex.
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  Speaker 2: And she looks at me and goes, what planet are
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  Speaker 2: you on? Are you one and eighty years old? First
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  Speaker 2: of all the answers, yes. Second of all, I like tactile.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I like books, That's why I like the newspaper.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I like flip phones because you could feel,
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  Speaker 2: you could touch, and there's just a better connection. And
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  Speaker 2: so these old school habits are coming to gen Z.
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  Speaker 2: Well some reasons smartphone fatigue, Yeah, resolutions that we do,
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  Speaker 2: attention health, the reclaiming focus aligned perfectly with flip phones.
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  Speaker 1: You've got.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, just let you know how popular
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: they are among eighteen to twenty four year olds.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Brick phone sales okay.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Flip phones one hundred and forty eight percent from twenty
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: to twenty one to twenty twenty four.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Boy, that is high.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Smartphone use drop twelve percent in Canada, dumb phone flip
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: phones rows five percent in Canada in the last two
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: years three years, yep, two point eight million units sold
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: just in twenty twenty three. And the bottom line is
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: we want more simplicity, uninterrupted conversation. And this is not
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: a ticktalk passing trend. So what is the industry response.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Telecom tech companies are now marketing these minimalist phones, strip
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: down apps, detox data plans to protect the intention, protect
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: your attention and your information. And I mean the technology
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: is still there, that's just that's just not as good
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: or not as robust. Vinyl records one point two billion
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: dollars in twenty twenty four, out selling CDs, film and
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: instant cameras.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Kodak doubles production.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Since twenty twenty two, Board games journaling, Fountain Pen sales
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: booming pretty impressive. All right, Flip phones, I like them that.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I love my flip phone, that Motorola phone. It was
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: so much fun. It was new technology. Kind of get
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: bored with phones. And it wasn't twelve hundred dollars or
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: eighteen hundred dollars. They actually were affordable.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Okay, they're sleek and the styles would hold up today easy.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, they're kind of neat.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: I love them. I have mine somewhere. I keep a
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: lot of my old phones.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: You can, I don't. I don't think how many people do.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: But of course you would you hoarder you.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Neil them or I use them as little computers.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Not too many people do that, Neil, probably not.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: No, Neil is kind of an outlier, and Neil is
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: a savant when it comes to that sort of stuff.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: He really is. Okay, we're done until tomorrow, five am.
• 21:58
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• 22:03
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• 22:07
  Speaker 2: here forever and sleep here.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: And they don't have a shower here, So I mean,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: what does that tell you? All Right?
• 22:15
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