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NFL Draft, Oregon, Clemson, Picking a National Champion and More · The Jake Wimberly Podcast

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We'll talk college football, little college basketball. Josh Pate, the late kick
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gonna be with us at five point fifteen, talking several things. Pat State
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will join us. We'll talk a lot of college football. So missive AGAs
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to win last night against Southern Miss. Did you see the Southern Miss player
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talking trash? How about that? So they just lose to a bunch of
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invaders. This is like their world series. Like that guy has he has
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got good guts. Since this is a family show, he's got good I
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like it. I like what he did there, right. Top ten transfer
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portal rankings courtesy of two four seven update at Ole Miss number one, and
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again these can change a little bit after spring practice when they open the window.
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We'll see how many you know, who was it? Somebody on this
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week, Chris Marler, somebody I can't remember, said that they felt like
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Alabama was going to hit the portal pretty hard after spring practice. We'll see.
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Alabama has the is ranked the tenth best portal class right now. South
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Carolina ninth, Ohio State eighth, Texas seventh, Louisville the Cardinals. They've
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worked the transfer portal well over the last several years. Six, Colorado at
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five, Florida State and Oregon four three, Texas Tech, Texas A and
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M, and then Ole mess is your top portal portal king, portal winner.
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Speaking of Oregon, you know Organ's gonna be really good this year.
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They were good last year. They lost six They lost by six points in
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two ballgames total points, lost by six points. And you can just say
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they got pinixed because that's what happened. Michael Penix Junior is what happened.
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Couldn't stop pinicks, couldn't get stops at the time. The Washington Huskies and
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get to win. They go to the College Football Plaoff versus the Orgon Ducks.
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The Ducks are going to be a tough, tough out for most everybody.
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And Oregon is expected to hire Missouri State wide receivers coach and co special
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teams coordinator Dante Ellington as an analyst. Sources tell two four seven. Ellington
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helped Missouri State rank fifth in the FCS in passing offense in twenty twenty three.
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So they continue to add staffers and guys that know how to move the
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ball. I saw this interesting stat on Reddit the Army men's basket ball team.
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We still got to get into this Dayton story or Dartmouth twenty twenty three
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twenty twenty four season has come to a close Army Basketball. They lost to
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I don't know who this is, holy Cross, maybe eighty four to sixty
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eight. But it says for the eighty sixth year in a row, Army.
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Eighty six years in a row, Army will not participate in the NCAA
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Men's Basketball Tournament. I had no idea that they had that big of a
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drought in the tournament, but I don't ever just look for Army in the
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tournament. Army, William and Mary and the Citadel are the only three Division
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one teams that have been eligible from nineteen thirty nine to present and still haven't
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qualified. How about that? So, out of all the teams that are
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Division one in men's basketball at least once since nineteen thirty nine, everybody has
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qualified for the tournament except Army, William and Mary and the Citadel. That
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was very very interesting, also interesting story out here. Josh pat put this
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out earlier today, Chris Lowe reporting that you remember there was some strong talk
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of Mike norvel leaven Florida State in taking the Alabama job. Well, if
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that would have happened, Florida State was prepared to target Lane, Kiffin says.
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In fact, in the wee hours on that Friday morning, The fear
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among Florida State officials was that Norvelle was close to trading his Florida State garnet
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for Alabama. Crimson. Sources told ESPN that Florida State was poised to move
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quickly if that happened, and Kiffin would have been the prime candidate. So
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do you think Lane Kiffin would have taken the Florida State job over Romss?
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I mean, it's we'll never know. What's your gut tell you probably.
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I think that he would have considered it. Now, all this fans,
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what what are you talking? No, it's Florida State. That's Florida State.
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And look what Mike Norvelle has been able to do there in just a
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short period of time. Obviously, Mike Norvell is still Atlorida State. Uh,
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speaking of changing teams, is Hugh Kellenberger running that bowl from the back
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end? Shadow? Shadow running this thing? You know, we had a
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nice run here of hospitality between Mike Leach rest in peace and Lane Kiffin.
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Zach Arnett was never whatever, and then Jeff Leby comes in and then we
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know the back and forth. It more so Kiffin than him. Now,
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Ole miss has hired Zach Arnett. Did you see this? Zach Arnett is
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going to stay in the state of Mississippi and head to Ole, miss And
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he is going to be an analyst. I believe it's what's going to happen.
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So does this bring a toxic element back to the egg Bowl? Now?
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That was dumb to begin with, the whole toxic No, it was
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very dumb, very dumb. So zach Arnett headed to Oxford. Also,
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some other news out here. Let's see NFL Combine numbers are in scouting Combine
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reached over five million viewers on the NFL network. Most watched Combine on NFL
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network alone since twenty eighteen. Coverage of the quarterback, wide receiver and running
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backs on field drills averaged three hundred and nine to nine thousand viewers. It's
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TV plus any kind of digital format streaming. Most watched Combine three days on
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NFL network. That was a record. Coverage of defensive linemen and linebackers on
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field drills up twenty three percent versus last year, and dB and tight end
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drills up seven percent versus last year. Would you like to know who the
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NFL network put on this beautiful infograph as the face of the combine. JJ
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McCarthy figured that was coming. This is inevitable. We have reached that point.
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Now he may go number one. I'm not saying it's right. He
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he may go number one. Do you realize that? No, let's not
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get too crazy. We've most mocks have got him up to three. I
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mean he's right there. He went from late first round coming out of the
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end of the year in college. He's up to three. And I don't
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think he's done that much. It's very interesting. Sixer one eight eight five,
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bell, crossbody. Yeah, you can just turn it. College Football Report.
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Nick Saban says the way Alabama players acted after losing the Michigan and the
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College football playoffs certainly contributed to his retirement. Is this true? Have you
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seen this? Yeah? I mean College Football Report has a massive following on
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X quote. I was really disappointed in the way the players acted after the
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game. You gotta win with class, you gotta lose with class, and
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then showing your ass and being frustrated and throwing helmets and doing stuff. He
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continued, I thought we could have a hell of a team next year,
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they want to know is two things. What assurances do I have that I'm
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going to play because they're thinking about transferring? And how much are you going
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to pay me? So I'm saying to myself, maybe this doesn't work anymore.
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There was a lot of speculation of this, but now talking about it,
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Alabama Dynasty is dead. Dead on arrival, DA tied fans. I
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hope you soaked it up. I hope that you have your DVDs, your
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YouTube links. I hope you have your shirts, your whatever it is.
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Because where you just walked out of you will never and I mean ever,
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walk back into Welcome to eight and four and nine and three. Alabama.
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You relish Yeah that last forty five seconds, you just relished that not you
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you love. Anytime these days you can say something negative about Alabama, specifically,
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when you can use the words you Alabama fans game, it pumps your
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nads. I love Tuscaloosa. I have nothing but respect for You. Don't
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like tuscal Lusa because you take you've since the beginning of time, you've taken
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shots at They're beloved barbecue hut No, I think that's overrated. Dreamland is
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one hundred percent overrated. I think it is. And I'm know barbecue savant,
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but I can tell you that is overrated. I love Alabama, Tuscaloosa.
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Look, Northport is just right north of Northport of Tuscaloosa, home of
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Deontay Wilder. I mean, I love the whole area over there. It's
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great place. I'm just telling you they're not going to be who they were.
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And Kaylin de Boor has got a he's got a lot to do.
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It's got a whole lot to do. Green Okra Lane, Kiffin, Hir
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and Arnett to be a defensive analyst at Ole miss while Missippi State pays the
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bulk of his salary via the buy out. This year is pretty funny no
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matter who you root for. It that is true, right because that is
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all going on is a fact Chief Shooting Bowl. If Arnett goes to Ole
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Miss, he deserves all the petty comments he received at the end of his
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tenure. Please don't insult the legacy of Jolie Dunn. Yeah. Yeah,
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And the whole Jolie Dune thing is you know, he coached it, both
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coached the state, coached at Ole Miss or first it was all missed in
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state. All right, let's see here more news on the Texans. The
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Texans and kicker Kami faibarn have agreed to an extension. They're bringing back a
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lot of people three years, fifteen point nine million dollars. Are the Texans
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a legitimate contender for the AFC next year? No, I'm not going to
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go that far. Not ready to do that yet. It was a really
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he that was a really good year. But did not expect that from the
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coach. Did not expect that from the quarterback. But I'm not ready to
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go. The full AFC Chiefs still exist. Although they're overrated every year,
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the Bills are still better than the Texans, I'd say by a little bit.
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Yeah, by an ad Speaking of Gym Live Future, Yeah, Jim,
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he can pull them out. He can pull them out there. He
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can pull him out of the bag. Magic Mike, Little Willie's kicks Dreamlands.
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But yeah, I'm not a I mean, Dreamland was just okay.
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And this is this is gonna sound terrible, but I really feel like you
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could go into the old Jitney Jungle or the old Sunflower, Like if you
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just out in Rule, Mississippi, just out around Lloyd Star and you know
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how they put the food out. They just put and they if they have
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ribs down at the Sunflower at Lloyd Star, they'll be about as good as
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Dreamland. I mean, it's okay, it's just way too much hype.
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You know what Dreamland is. It's Colorado football. It's Colorado football. Speaking
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of Colorado football, well, he that's not in this. Let's see top
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ten head coaches via the Athletic. Bruce Felman gives his top ten coaches be
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the Athletic. Let's look at this and let's see here. First, Monkey's
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riding dogs. Do you remember this? This is Auburn basketball on X.
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Let me make sure you're not sending me, says Alabama fans Terry and Stephanie.
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Terry and Stephanie East were the perfect couple. He was a human.
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Oh I can't do this. See, I can't do we can't do this,
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can we Nope, can't come down that road. Sorry, we're gonna
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have to put a stop on that one. Love you, Monkey's running dogs
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all right. Top ten college football coaches. Bruce Filman has Kirby Smart number
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one. I don't think anybody's going to disagree with that. He has Dabo
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Swiney at number two. I love Bruce Feldman, but I feel like he's
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starting to lose a little credibility with this. Is he number two? Oh?
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Lance Leopold Kansas number three. Now, if you look at lance Leopold,
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let's look at his resume. Look at lance Leopold, and look,
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he has done some big, big things. However, a lot of that
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was at Wisconsin Whitewater, and you look at what he did there. He
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was a quarterback at Wisconsin Whitewater, but also a head coach. He's got
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a record of one sixty three and sixty. He's three and two in bowl
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games, thirty four to one in the NCAA Division Three playoffs, six n
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c DOUBLEA and Division three championships, seven WIAC titles, and two MAC Eastern
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Division titles. When he was at Buffalo. All of that is well and
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good, but Kansas has been on Kansas's Let you know what, if you're
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putting Kansas in the you know what is the perception of Kansas football in the
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expectations. He's probably beaten that for sure. But Felman is gonna put this
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guy as the third best coach in college football. Can't do that. Another
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strike against Felman lost credibility. Kelen to Bore number four. I can go
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with that Ryan Day number five? Are we putting to boor over Ryan Day?
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I'm not Brian Kelly six. I would actually put Brian Kelly above everybody
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above him except just about Kirby Smart, Kyle Whittingham, Utah at eight to
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have no problem, Lincoln Riley at number nine, he's losing traction. But
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and then Mike Norvalle at number ten. But again, Felman doesn't tell you
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criteria like how do we arrive here? Because Swinny, there's no ways when
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he's the second best football coach over the last four years. Just look at
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the record, look at the I mean, it's just not the rilla named
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textare I agree Dreamland is a tourist trap. Another one is in and out
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Burger where's the beef. I still haven't had that. Have you had that?
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I still have not had an in and out Burger? And I think
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they're actually building another. There's nothing wrong with this chicken establishment in North Brandon.
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I saw it this morning. Is Magoose? Is that chicken? Yeah?
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Hughey Magoose. Yeah. They're building a Hughey Magoose out in North Brandon
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across from the Walmart. Flow would love their chicken. I mean, look,
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here's the thing about Flo Wood though, on the south end of twenty
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five. That's your and there's again nothing wrong with this. I love it.
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Mexican restaurant Haven on the north end it's Chicken Haven. So somewhere we
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got got a bridge and right in the middle is Hartfield, which is weird.
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Jake? I'm doing well today? How are you doing good? Doing?
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Really good as we march towards March Madness. It's gonna be fun.
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We're gonna get into some of that in the second segment. Of course,
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we'll do a lot of that over the next few weeks. With you looking
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at the tournament. I want to talk some college football though to start out
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with, and I kind of want to work off, you know, get
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your thoughts on some of these teams. You know, obviously, I know
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you still got a long way to go, like the rest of us,
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working on analytics and what these rosters are gonna look like. I saw somebody
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on this show, I can't remember who it was. I had on the
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other day felt like Alabama would probably dip into the portal after spring practice,
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you know, a considerable amount to try to fill some of these spots.
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So we'll still have that work to get into. But I want to start
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with Dabo Swinny and Clemson. And the reason I want to bring them up
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is because Bruce Feldman of The Athletic released his top ten college football coaches and
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I don't really know where he you know, what his criteria is. He
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still has Dabo Swinny as the second best coach in college football. I tend
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to disagree with that, you know. You know, if you want to
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say over the life of a of a career, you might can make that
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argument. But Clemson and Dabo Sweeney feel like they have a lot of work
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to do this year to really come, you know, and they'll be right
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there. We'll see they played Georgia Week one. This is not the same
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Clemson team we knew five years ago though. Yeah, Jake, I completely
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agree with you. And to the point of, you know, where does
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Dabo fall in the current hierarchy of college football head coaches. It does depend
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on a time frame that you're going to look at, right, I mean,
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is it are you going back here ten years because if so, yeah,
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he's got the two national championships and not many coaches can speak to that
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level of success. Or are you going to judge it more on what have
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you done in the last three or four years? Five years? And they
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made a couple of playoffs here within that time frame, but it's certainly fallen
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off in recent recent years. And if I look, I'm quickly pulling up
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my preseason expectations from last year because it lists quickly where I had Clemson at
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the end of each college football season, and I'm looking at kind of where
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I think they might be here this year. It is possible and even likely,
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Jakes, that from a power rating standpoint, this is going to be
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the worst Clemson team that we've seen since maybe twenty fourteen. So you're going
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back a decade the last time we've seen a Clemson team. You know,
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they're probably in that fifteen to twenty range of power ratings if I had to
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guess right now what it's going to look like this fall, and the last
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time they were in that range was twenty fourteen. They finished the year number
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twenty one for me, So they're certainly trending in the wrong direction. But
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I would also to say, Jake, Florida State is really the only team
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as I quickly look at the ACC composition for next year, and of course
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it changes with Stanford CALSMU coming in, you know, Florida State's the only
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team that I'm going to say definitively right now is maybe a higher power rated
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team than Clemson, and they do have to go to Florida State in the
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regular season. They do have Georgia in Atlanta to open the year, as
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you alluded to, so tough tough schedule. They're a tough couple of games,
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but Clemson's still going to be among the favorites in the ACC. That
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speaks probably more of the ACC than anything else. But yeah, certainly not
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the Clemson powerhouse that we've been used to seeing. Really from that twenty fifteen
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to twenty twenty ish time Brame Kelly Forard talking college football. We'll get some
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college basketball. Second segment, k Ford Ratings on xkford ratings dot com.
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When is the edition of the program? All right, not in the top
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ten, but I do want to stay in the ACC. Since you brought
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up Florida State and I want to move past Florida State and go to Miami
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because you know, there's a lot we do know and it's a kind of
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came through here and I've got my initial you know, uh, strength of
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schedule rankings for a lot of these teams Miami. When you look at Miami
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and you kind of depended on what we mean, you've talked about this off
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the year, how you calculate it. They've got arguably the best roster with
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Florida State in the in the ACC. They've got the quarterback with cam Ward
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coming in their schedule is very, very manageable, is it. The big
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thing for me is what about you know, their coaching staff, what about
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their head coach? I mean because when you look at at his resume,
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you're talking about a guy that's one game over five hundred in his career.
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Everything. When you look at him, it says, yes, they should
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compete for this championship this year. You look at the history of Mario Cristo
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Baal and Miami over the last several years. That's where what gets in the
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way? Where are you at way too early with Miami. I think Miami
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belongs in that top tier in the ACC as well, Jacob, because we
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mentioned Florida State, we just talked about Clemson. That next team for me,
26:52
the early look at the power ratings is gonna be Miami again the ACC.
26:57
I'm if I'm the athletic director at either at any of those three institutions
27:02
of the ACC, my expectation is that we are going to be in the
27:04
top three in the conference football standings year in and year out. There's really
27:10
not a lot of excuses to be made for those three programs with their recent
27:14
and historical success and the resources that they have now granted some have more than
27:18
others, but those three programs in particular are positions such that I would expect
27:23
if I'm an administrator at those universities, that we're going to be competing for
27:26
the ACC championship year in and year out. In football, You're right,
27:30
it has not gone to plan at Miami here in recent years. They've been
27:33
better in recent years. Twenty twenty three they were better than they were in
27:38
twenty twenty two, of course, a really down year where they finished number
27:41
seventy in my power rating, a shockingly bad year. But even going back
27:45
before that, you know, number thirty three, back in twenty twenty one,
27:48
number eighteen, and twenty twenty, but they haven't finished higher than number
27:52
eighteen of my power rating since twenty sixteen. I'm not suggesting that this Miami
27:56
team is going to come into the year in the top twenty, but they
27:57
could certainly have a team that rounds into form and maybe finds himself in that
28:02
fifteen to twenty rage come the end of the year. So it's possible that
28:06
we could be looking at the best Miami team if everything goes to plan,
28:10
Because maybe twenty sixteen, Bruce Feldman has Lance Leopold on his list at number
28:15
three. I tend to disagree with that. I mean, I know that
28:18
his resume is extremely stellar. You look at what he did, you know,
28:22
back prior to Kansas, when he was at Buffalo and then of course
28:25
at Wisconsin Whitewater. Unbelievable, you know, resume there. But when I
28:30
want to take this past Lance Leopold, though I've said this, I want
28:33
your thoughts on this. The Big Twelve as it sets, the new Big
28:36
Twelve could be, I think, the funnest league to watch because there's no
28:41
Texas, there's no Oklahoma. They're gonna be in the SEC. Yes,
28:44
Utah comes over Colorado, Arizona, Arizona State. But you know when you
28:47
kind of look at Utah Central Florida, now they're gonna have kJ Jefferson and
28:51
they worked at Transfer Portal pretty hard, TCU, Colorado, Texas Tech,
28:55
Baylor, Kansas State, Oklahoma State. This could be a wide open Big
28:59
Twelve championship run. Wide open is the exact phrase I would use to describe,
29:06
not agree more. I personally again a lot of work to be done
29:08
for the twenty twenty four preseason k Ford rating. I personally think that right
29:14
now I'm probably leaning towards Utah as maybe the best power rated team in the
29:18
new look Big twelve. Of course, they're making their transition from the PAC
29:21
twelve. Kansas State is up there Arizona. I know they lost Jetfish.
29:25
I know he's up at Washington now, but what he had started building there
29:29
in Tucson, Arizona's a team to watch. Don't count out Mike Gundy and
29:32
Oklahoma State. They always seem to be in the mix. I'm a big
29:33
Matt Campbell fan at Iowa State, and they seem to be a team that
29:37
over a cheese relative to the level at which they recruit. It's wide open.
29:42
I didn't even get the CCU. Who's in the National Championship Game just
29:45
two years ago. Kansas lfehold, as you mentioned, has done a complete
29:48
turnaround, the best two year stretch we've seen at Kansas since two thousand and
29:52
seven, two thousand and eight. It's a wide open conference. There's no
29:57
historical tradition blue blood of college football remaining. With the departures of Texas and
30:03
Oklahoma. Somebody or somebodies is going to take this new look conference by the
30:10
neck and say this is now ours. We now run the Big twelve,
30:14
and you could go one of maybe half a dozen ways with who that's going
30:17
to be. I am very excited to see what the Big twelve produces this
30:21
year, Jake, in terms of CFP, because I know that's always the
30:23
follow up is, well, Kelly, if they have all of these contenders,
30:26
what does that do for their CFP chances? We could be in a
30:30
scenario where, like we used to talk about the Pac twelve, they all
30:33
beat each other up in the regular season. They got some good teams but
30:36
didn't really get the opportunity in the playoff except for on a handful of occasions,
30:40
to have a team in the CFP. Well, now with the expanded
30:42
CFP, the Big twelve will be representative, of course, but it is
30:45
possible that you're going to see you know, four, five six teams from
30:51
either or the Big Ten the SEC. It's possible we get into years where
30:55
you've got one, maybe only two teams from the Big twelve, if there
30:59
is that much pay and they all knock each other up and beat each other
31:02
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Kelly Ford back with us another segment. Kelly, let's jump into the
32:30
SEC real quick. We will touch some college basketball here in just a bit
32:34
there. There is no way to know, but you know, everything has
32:37
changed in Alabama. So much has changed in Alabama. I mean from you
32:40
know, the new coach with Kelen de Borr also to Eli Gold. You
32:45
know this is off the field, but he will no longer be the play
32:49
by play voice to access for media. You know, Nick Saban spoke candidly
32:54
about, you know, the kind of the way the attitudes of players after
32:57
the champions are, the semi final loss to Michigan. What do we know?
33:00
How do we quantify? I mean, it feels like at eight and
33:02
four, nine and three teen, But again, Kelend de Boor may come
33:06
in there and blow the doors off the SEC. It could be like luster.
33:07
I just don't know that. We know there's certainly more uncertainty around Alabama
33:14
this year, Jake, for the points you just alluded to, and more
33:17
than there has been in more than fifteen years since before Nick Saban got there.
33:22
And Nick Saben, I mean it took him one year his first year
33:24
two thousand and seven had some growing pains. You're turning over a whole program
33:28
that has all this rich history, and he brought them back from pretty low
33:31
to the mountaintop again within the first couple of years. There's I don't think
33:37
we can expect the Boar to come in and have the same level of success
33:43
that Nick Saban did early on or for the extenented period of time, obviously,
33:45
but it's not like Nick Saban left this cupboard bear. This Alabama team
33:51
is still going to be immensely talented. And you know, if you're looking
33:53
at from a power rating standpoint, where they kind of slot in fringe top
33:59
five, certainly top ten at this point in terms of what we're thinking now,
34:02
Alabama fans will say, well, my gosh, between five and ten,
34:07
the sky is falling. It's the worst it's been. Well, maybe
34:09
that's a welcome back to reality in the post Nick Saban era, where you
34:15
can't just roll out of bed in August and say we have a top three
34:17
power rated team this year. They now are kind of playing on a more
34:22
equal playing field without Nick Saban there on the sideline and some of those other
34:25
things you mentioned. So yes, unknowns. For sure, it's gonna be
34:30
a challenge, it's gonna be different, But there is still a ton of
34:32
talent in Tuscaloosa. And you know you're going down their schedule here. They
34:37
get Georgia at home during the regular season, have to go to Tennessee Missouri,
34:42
that's gonna be a good team this year from a power rating standpoint,
34:45
at least that's a home game before then, of course, the annual game
34:47
with LSU that one's on the road. Have to go to Oklahoma this year,
34:52
and then get your rival Auburn at home in the Iron Bowl. It's
34:55
a very difficult schedule. It is certainly within the realm of possibility that Alabama
35:00
loses three regular season games, which is just crazy. But in the expanded
35:05
playoff era nine and three in the SEC, when your brand name is Alabama
35:08
Crimson Tide, that's maybe still enough, maybe even probably still enough to make
35:13
make a spot in the collegeball playoff. Here in twenty twenty four, let's
35:16
shift over talking little college basketball. We'll have you know, obviouslyment you know,
35:20
mid major tournaments this week, big tournaments next week. Who's hot,
35:23
who's not? What's your k Ford ratings say? Right now. Yeah,
35:28
we are in the midst of it, Jake. As you know, I
35:30
was at a quarter or a first round game yesterday for the Horizon Wing.
35:32
I'll be at a quarterfinal tomorrow before we shift to Indy for our semis and
35:37
chance to talk about mid major madness. It's a lot of fun. But
35:39
if we're looking nationally here, I still have Houston, Purdue, Arizona,
35:44
and yukon the four teams that Joe Lonardi's got on the number one seed line.
35:47
Those are the four teams for me that remain the top four teams in
35:52
my power ratings. And then after that you got a group of SEC teams
35:54
down there, Tennessee, Auburn, Alabama. I would not be surprised at
35:59
all if one, if not more of those teams makes their way to Phoenix
36:02
in the final four this year. Of course, it all depends on how
36:05
the bracket shakes out. But Gig, I'm if you ask me about this
36:08
last week or the week before, a team that's hot, a team that's
36:12
rising, a team that is not gonna have a super good speed but is
36:15
capable and has the high end of making the run. I'm still looking at
36:19
Gonzaga and those that haven't been paying attention to college basketball this year will say,
36:22
well, of course, Gonzaga. It's always Gonzaga. They were on
36:25
the bubble for quite some time. I think they have now solidified their position
36:29
in the field, but they are still going to be a low seed by
36:31
their standards. I mean we're talking nine ten seed range for Gonzaga this year.
36:37
Most likely they are a top fifteen power rated team for me, So
36:40
depending on where they fall. If they fall at the ten line, they
36:44
probably won't mind that too much. You get the seven in the first round,
36:45
you get the two in the second round, and that bracket kind of
36:49
opens up. If you end up on that eight to nine line, that
36:52
might be a bit more of a challenge because you've got to face a one
36:54
seed in the second round. But Gonzaga has got the high end talent they
36:58
can knock off a one seed. I think in this tournament. That's a
37:00
team I'm certainly looking at. If Bill Andova gets in the tournament, they
37:05
have the stealing level of play to make a run in the tournament. So
37:08
I'm giving you kind of some some big established brands in college basketball, but
37:12
these two teams are not having the seasons that they typically have for these programs.
37:16
Let's finish it over with the SEC. You know, Ole Miss looks
37:20
like they have worked their way at least today out of this thing. How
37:22
many SEC teams now do you feel might get in this thing? Six?
37:25
Seven? Are we at eight? I agree with you that Old Miss has
37:30
Probably they're probably in the position with it. They might need the AQ to
37:31
get into the NCAA tournament. Now, Mississippi State fans should be feeling good
37:36
though, I think they're going to be in. So if we just go
37:37
down quickly the SDC list here, I've got, you know, Tennessee,
37:42
Auburn, Alabama, South Carolina, Kentucky, Florida, those six, I'll
37:47
even say Missippi State. Those seven I think are certainly gonna hear their names
37:51
called on selection Sunday, and many of which are gonna have really good seeds.
37:53
Texas A and them. If it's gonna be eight, it's gonna be
37:57
Texas A and M. And they're a team that they're sticking aroun They're in
38:00
that mix, they're in the conversation. They probably need to win another I
38:07
don't know, a couple of games year down the stretch and in the the
38:09
SEC tournament. That feel good about it, but they certainly are still in
38:13
the mix for an at large bid come slash on Sunday, so I'll stay
38:15
seven with the potential. Free Kelly Ford good stuff is always make sure to
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follow him on exit k Ford Ratings, check them out k Forard Ratings dot
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com. Kelly, I appreciate you moving around. I know we'll have to
38:24
go next Wednesday. We'll be right in the thick of this getting ready for
38:28
the Southeastern Conference tournament and of course all the tournaments as we move towards selection
38:31
Sunday, so we'll touch all of that and more. I appreciate you so
38:34
much, my friend. Have a great weekend, absolutely, Jake, you
38:37
too appreciate it as always. Thanks Kelly Ford on your radio and of course
38:39
find him at Kford Ratings dot com and of course k Ford Ratings on x
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we'll have Josh Pate coming up hearing about twenty minutes and we'll talk college football
38:51
with Josh Pate of two four seven sports dot com. All right, let's
38:54
see here, just a few minutes left. Let's look one two. All
39:02
right, let me go back over to these notes forgot James Franklin's on this
39:07
list too, He's at seventh, and I think that's fair. I mean,
39:10
James Franklin. You know, James Franklin has done everything he needs to
39:15
do except beat the big boys. That's where James Franklin has has failed.
39:22
All Right, we'll get into some of this analyzing college football's optimal toughest scenarios
39:27
for debut Power five coaches, as there are some scenarios that are out there.
39:35
Also, Beaver, you know it's I think it could be down to
39:39
Nick Saban or Shadoor Sanders as the cover of the New Football Game. I
39:46
bet it's gonna be Shador. What do you think? Let me ask you
39:50
a dumb question, though, why would it be Shadoor and not Travis Hunter.
39:55
Is Travis Hunter the best football player in college football? I think you
39:58
can make that argument, like just pure player, got to play offense,
40:02
got to play defense. Why is his name not coming up for this?
40:07
He'll be in the NFL draft next year if healthy, he'll be a top
40:10
ten pick. But it looks like it could be Shador Sanders on the cover
40:14
of Kirk Herbstreet ponders who it will be, and he says, I think
40:17
shad Or Sanders is a massive name and a big following. Well, all
40:22
of that is true, Kurt. Also, Peyton Manning is pursuing Bill Belichick
40:27
for Omaha productions per Andrew marchand if Belichick is on board, the subject of
40:32
a potential goat cast Nick Saban and Belichick could happen. What do you think
40:37
about this? Would you listen to Sabin and Belichick? You're not interested at
40:43
all? Right? I mean I think everybody would would listen to the you
40:45
know, they would kill it for the first two or three, but then
40:50
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a little NFL You can always text at six zero one, eight, eight,
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five, three, seven, seven six. You know, this whole
42:45
trade talk with Russell Wilson and everything else going on. Jordan Donjie of CBS
42:52
sports dot Com puts out his top ten worst trades of all time in the
42:57
NFL. I want to go straight to see where he puts this Russell Wilson
43:07
deal. And I'm chalking through here, Jeff George to the Falcons. That
43:12
was it a one? Is it the worst? Actually the worst is too
43:16
hershel Walker to the Vikings. Now do you I haven't broken these things down
43:22
like to the nth degree? Is the in your opinion, the Russell Wilson
43:25
worse than herschel Walker. So if you remember the herschel Walker if you don't,
43:30
it was the largest trade in NFL history and probably the worst rundown of
43:36
the compensation thanks to Pro Football Hall of Fame herschel Walker from the Dallas Cowboys
43:40
to the Minnesota Vikings. Also, now this was the worst as far as
43:45
Vikings are concerned. The Cowboys got everything out of this walker to the Vikings.
43:50
Dallas also traded its third round choice in nineteen ninety, its tenth round
43:54
choice in nineteen ninety, and a third round choice in nineteen ninety one to
43:59
Minnesota. Minnesota traded linebacker Jesse Solomon, linebacker David Howard, cornerback Isaiah Holt
44:04
in defensive end Alex Stewart, along with its first round choice in nineteen ninety,
44:08
its second round choice in nineteen ninety, it's sixth round choice in nineteen
44:13
ninety, its first round choice in ninety one, it's second round choice in
44:16
ninety one, its first round choice in ninety two, second round choice in
44:21
ninety two, third round choice in ninety two to Dallas. Minnesota traded running
44:24
back Darren Nelson to Dallas, which traded Nelson to San Diego for the Chargers
44:29
fifth round choice in ninety which Dallas sent to Minnesota. So a lot going
44:34
on there, but ESPN made a documentary on this transaction, calling it the
44:38
Great Trade Robbery. It all be known as it will always be known as
44:44
just that. Unless the Seahawks win multiple Super Bowls off the Broncos picks.
44:49
That is unbelievable. I didn't really, I could not remember that. Ninety
44:52
ninety one and ninety two first and second round picks, first and second round
44:57
picks. Man, how did they do that? Was Minnesota's front office?
45:05
That dumb? I mean herschel Walker, Let's see, that was nineteen Let
45:09
me look at his How good was herschel Walker in eighty nine? I mean,
45:15
obviously we know about how good herschel Walker was, But in nineteen eighty
45:22
nine nine hundred and fifteen yards and seven touchdowns. Is that worth six picks
45:31
plus everything else that was there? I mean, herschel Walker for his career
45:36
was eighty two hundred and twenty five yards. I don't know that. That
45:40
whole thing is just wild wild. The number two pick or number two is
45:46
this Russell Wilson to the Broncos. The Broncos thought they found their quarterback of
45:51
the future in Wilson, and outbeit everybody interested, for the Super Bowl winning
45:58
veteran. In twenty twenty two, the Broncos set the Seahawks, sent the
46:01
Seahawks a twenty twenty two first round pick, twenty two second round twenty two
46:06
to fifth twenty third first, twenty third second plus tied him Noah fen defensive
46:13
lineman, Shelby Harris and Drew Locke quarterback in exchange for Wilson and a twenty
46:19
twenty two fourth round pick. Before we played a single snap, the Broncos
46:22
gave Wilson two hundred and forty five million multi year extent or two hundred forty
46:27
five million multi year extension that was supposed to carry him through twenty twenty eight.
46:32
That one may be worse just because of the money and everything else that's
46:37
tied end. So after knowing both of those, which one would you go?
46:40
I mean, I don't know that the Seahawks have really capitalized on this.
46:45
I'm still gonna go with Minnesota just because we saw what all that became
46:50
for the Cowboys. But that added little extension they gave him and all that
46:59
money that does put it up there. I'll still go with Minnesota. I
47:04
think it edges that out. Though. Number three. I won't bore you
47:08
with this because most people won't remember nineteen seventy five John Haddle to the Packers,
47:14
Rams to the Packers, Number four, Jeff George to the Falcons.
47:17
A lot of you may remember this the Colts traded with the Falcons to move
47:22
up to number one overall in the nineteen nine NFL Draft for quarterback Jeff George,
47:27
but after going fourteen and thirty five as a starter over four seasons,
47:30
he was traded to the team traded to the team the Colts traded with initially
47:35
to acquire George. The Falcons. Atlanta was in the market for a new
47:38
quarterback and sent Indianapolis a first round pick, a third round pick, a
47:43
conditional future first round pick, and a third round for George. The conditional
47:46
selection turned into Marvin Harrison, by the way asked for George. He went
47:51
seven to nine with Atlanta in nineteen ninety four, then nine at seven and
47:53
ninety five, a season which did include a playoff birth. However, the
47:59
next season six, George got into a very public argument with Falcons head coach
48:02
June Jones and was suspended for the rest of the season. Never played for
48:06
the Falcons again. Oh, Jeff George, let's also couple that with that?
48:13
Was what ninety? Yeah? Was it? So they traded for George,
48:19
They gave up all that to get a quarterback in ninety that failed,
48:22
and then two years later they traded Brett Favre away excellent early nineties dealings Falcons.
48:36
Yeah, Brett Farver's on this list at number seven, Brett Farr to
48:38
the Falcons. Farve was selected by the Falcons in the second round of nineteen
48:43
ninety one. We know that the NFL draft and attempted four passes for zero
48:46
yard, zero touchdowns, and two interceptions his rookie year. Rookie season.
48:52
Clearly some dysfunction with the Falcons, so the Pickers approached them and sent a
48:55
first round pick in exchange for far first round pick for a quarterback yet to
49:00
complete a pass to the correct team and fell a physical after the trade.
49:07
Seemed pretty ridiculous compensation, but it wasn't. Of course, we know the
49:10
rest of Farre's career. Was that just a roll of the dice, or
49:15
did a somebody or somebody see something that Atlanta didn't involve him with. We
49:20
can give him a first round pick and we're gonna win on this. You'd
49:22
have to think somebody saw something Louvier Didko was trying to be dumb like Minnesota
49:29
when he traded for the rights to do to draft a Ricky Williams Ouch.
49:32
There's no doubt about it. Yeah, we got three in a row unnamed
49:36
Texas Saints trade to draft Ricky Williams. Bust Porl, Mike Didka, worst
49:40
decision, and then space goes Ricky Williams to the Saints. I'm trying to
49:45
see is that. I don't Why has that one not on this list?
49:50
That one is not on the top ten it should be. Do you remember
49:52
what all the Saints gave for that? I can't remember? Every pick?
49:58
Was it? Every every pick for that year? My god? What happened
50:02
to didgah? So? He was rolling in the eighties, Walter Payton,
50:07
Jimmy McMahon, the fridge, the Super Bowl shuffle, all that comes to,
50:12
and then that whole deal for Ricky Williams that makes zero zero sense.
50:16
Number ten on this list, DeAndre Hopkins to the Cardinals. Number nine,
50:21
Trent Richardson to the Colts. That's your boy, ain't it? Trent Richardson.
50:27
Charles Haley to the Cowboys is on this list. Brett fav to the
50:30
Packers, Steve Largent to the Seahawks. We'll get into some more of these.
50:32
Deshaun Watson to the Browns. Yeah, that's not turning out so well.
50:36
Is it. It's not sure how much money did he get? Two
50:44
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It's the Late Kick Show with Josh Paid. Of course you can get on
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YouTube, CBS Sports, CBS Sports HQ. Josh. Welcome in Broyther.
52:22
How you doing. I'm good man. I'm trying to keep track of all
52:24
the staff moves over there and you're part of the country. It's a lot,
52:28
right. I mean, we've got, you know, a new coach
52:29
at Misissippi State, new assistants as well as Zach Arnett now moving over to
52:34
hang out with Lane Kiffin for a little bit, and let's start here in
52:36
the state of Mississippi. I hadn't talked with you in of it, but
52:38
obviously you know everybody loves your show here. I just want to tell you
52:40
that a lot of people reference your show. You do a fantastic job with
52:44
Lake Kick, and I know you're twenty four to seven into college football,
52:46
but having that chance to chalk it up with you personally, So your thoughts
52:50
on where Lane Kiffin is at the transfer portal madness? You know this is
52:54
and I've said this and we'll continue to say it. It's it's likely the
52:57
most anticipated all season in All Miss football here since probably Eli Manning's senior year,
53:01
So it's been a while. Are you on board with ole mess college
53:06
football playoff or bust all the hype around Omess? Yeah? Yeah, I
53:10
can't believe that's where we are in the conversation, but yeah, I think
53:15
I am on board with that, and I'm normally the one who is shouting
53:19
down egregious, hype trained type narratives this time of year. But I don't
53:23
think that's egregious at all, and I don't think anyone inside that athletic department
53:27
would disagree with you either. So if you think about it, this is
53:31
one of the case studies right now in roster building and talent acquisition because you,
53:36
of course got the tried and true conventional method of building through recruiting,
53:39
and I'm sure in Lane Kippin's perfect world that's what he'd love to do.
53:43
But this is not a perfect world, and there are opportunities afforded you right
53:47
now that they're taking full advantage of. Conversely, a program like Clemson is
53:52
not taking advantage of it at all. And you know, results speak for
53:57
themselves. But I think to me, by ten, the biggest that I've
54:01
got with Old Miss now is not the talent acquisition because everyone's paying attention to
54:07
that. It's not the preseason ranking because everyone's paying attention to that. But
54:10
man, they have upgraded their staff, and we keep track of this internally.
54:15
I mean, we've got our own proprietary method of grading coaching staff and
54:20
it is really really rock solid and tested over the years. And if you
54:24
account for the staff changes and then upgraded up updated grading from last year,
54:31
Ole Miss upgraded at all eleven spots on their coaching staff. They added two
54:37
hundred and seventy four games coached across their staff. The defensive support staff grade
54:43
we have on them, which means below the coordinator level, is upgraded.
54:45
So not only have they positioned themselves roster wise to hopefully hit a home run
54:52
this year, Lane Kiffen has put together a coaching staff that's equipped to do
54:54
that as well. So they're all in and everyone's expectations should be all in
54:58
on twenty twenty four, Josh Pate on your radio Wednesday edition of the program.
55:01
Make sure to give me a follow on exit Late Kick Josh. Check
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out his show The Late Kick with Josh Paigde. You can find that in
55:07
his bio as well. All Right, so let's shift over to Starkball.
55:10
A rebuild for sure. You know, you can almost say ground floor,
55:14
because this thing looked really bad, really poorus for Mississippi State this past year
55:19
with Jeff Levy coming in not as much accolades or as many accolades in the
55:22
transfer portal, but he's worked a transfer portal his staff as it's going to
55:27
be a different brand of football. What does that? You know, what
55:30
does that do for Missippi State and the win lost column? That's yet to
55:32
be determined. But your thoughts on where at least he is at in this
55:36
process without you know, coaching a down yet. Yeah, that was the
55:38
biggest unknown for me, just because of lack of experience. Sometimes people think
55:45
when you have a lack of experience, you got a guy as a head
55:47
coach for the first time, it's automatically a bad thing. Well, it's
55:50
not always automatically a bad thing. Herbie, Ryan Day, Lincoln Riley once
55:53
full a time, never had an ounce of head coaching experience, and they
55:58
went three for three on being immediate home runs at their respective outposts. So
56:04
it's Jeff Levy gonna be that, I don't know. I will tell you
56:07
my biggest area of concern with them is Levy is a top one percent pace
56:15
of play offensive coordinator as a play caller, I mean, and so despite
56:19
the fact that he's the head coach there him calling plays, he's a top
56:22
one percent pace of play guy. They run a ton of plays. When
56:27
you combine that with a defensive coordinator who is in his position for the first
56:31
time, historically that that spelled trouble. That's not a guarantee that it won't
56:37
work out, but historically those have been two things that I've paid attention to
56:40
from a from a hiring and pairing perspective, is if you got a new
56:45
coordinator, what is the pace of play on the offensive side, and you've
56:49
got inexperienced defensive coordinator, you've got top one percent pace of play. So
56:53
that's something to monitor. But by and large, I've asked around the industry
56:59
and I've got very little negative feedback about Levy and whether he's prepared for this
57:04
opportunity, Like no one questions that it's just the normal stuff you have to
57:07
deal with with being a head coach for the first time. And I also
57:10
would argue, whether you're at Mississippi State or whether you're at Notre Dame or
57:15
anywhere in between. I don't think it's ever been harder to be a new
57:20
head coach because I don't think there's ever been more on the plate of a
57:22
head coach than there is today. And a lot of it has nothing to
57:25
do with football, so there's that aspect as well. But I'm really excited
57:30
just to see how it turns out. No, I agree with you one
57:32
hundred percent. Let's shift over to Alabama, just ninety miles from Starkwell.
57:37
Of course, a lot of you know, there's always going to be media
57:39
coverage, always going to be you know, Alabama's gonna be front and center.
57:43
Nick Saban comes out, makes some candid remarks about, you know,
57:45
his players and what they know, the way they acted after the National Championship
57:49
game, and he's been pretty candid about getting out of college football than Those
57:51
reasons are far and wide. But with Kleen deer Boor and the exodus and
57:55
the transfer portal. Now, I would assume that they're going to work the
57:59
transfer portal, bring practice in that short window. But how do we even
58:02
quantify what this team could or could not be this coming year. Uh,
58:07
it's tough to not It's tough to say it without noving what they're going to
58:10
do post spring, like you said, But I'll tell you the way I
58:15
look at it, I have never seen Debor tracking him all the way back
58:20
to his Naia days. He has never been in a position where he didn't
58:22
maximize his quarterbacks potential. Always does it. So it's pretty much a guarantee
58:29
you're going to see improved play from Jalen Milroe. They've got a good quarterback
58:34
room. Look, there's a kid named Dylan Landergan over there that may end
58:37
up transferring. That's just a name to keep an eye on because they loved
58:40
what he looked like last year as a true freshman, even though you never
58:45
saw him play in any games. So I think you can tell I've been
58:49
paying attention to coaching moves a lot. Because they initially had Ryan Grubb and
58:53
Scott Huff as the OC and the offensive line coach respectively. When Debor first
58:59
got there, I graded that as a top three staff nationally, like they
59:04
killed it in hiring under the Boor when he first got there, But when
59:07
those two left, it knocked him down. Probably I graded him in the
59:10
ten to fifteen range nationally. Right now, it's still a lower tier one
59:15
staff in the SEC. But the biggest takeaway is the Boar's an offensive guy.
59:21
Yet it's the defensive support staff grade that upgraded for Alabama. They did
59:25
not have a very high level defensive staff last year, and Nick Saban being
59:30
the head coach hit a lot of that. I think Kevin Steel is the
59:34
defensive coordinator. There were some stuff that kind of went on in the summer
59:37
to where I don't think he was able to be his hands on as he
59:39
wanted to be so defensively, they were mixing and matching all year and it
59:45
got over shadow called the quarterback instability was the main event there at Alabama.
59:50
But it's a minor miracle that team was in the playoff last year. So
59:52
I think people expect drop off, and that's fair. When the best coach
59:58
of all time walks out the door, I think there'll be a contender as
1:00:00
early as this year. I don't think there is a ton of drop off,
1:00:04
and I think that also in due time, you'll find Caylin Debor adjusts
1:00:08
to recruiting in the SEC, probably a lot more seamlessly than some folks expect
1:00:14
them to. Let's get you on your way up with this question. I
1:00:15
appreciate your time as always way too early. If you're buying stock in a
1:00:20
team or two, we'll see the twelve team playoffs going to be fun.
1:00:22
I'm looking forward to it. We'll see you know who makes that thing?
1:00:25
Are you buying stock? I wouldn't hold you to this as like a pick,
1:00:29
but give me a couple teams. I mean, is it Texas?
1:00:30
Are you looking at Georgia? You looking at Ohio State? Are you looking
1:00:34
at Florida State? Maybe Oregon? It feels like a fairly wide open field
1:00:38
with about seven or eight teams. I don't know that there's this one dominant
1:00:42
team. You may disagree with you on that, and that's fine. But
1:00:44
if you're buying stock today, just you know, early stock, you're gonn
1:00:46
put in your pocket. Who you buying? Love Ohio State? Actually,
1:00:50
because there's a growing narrative out there. That's wrong that they can't win the
1:00:54
big one. Ryan Day can't do this and can't do that, and that's
1:00:59
all a misused term. There is a very big difference and cannot versus have
1:01:02
not. Once upon a time Kirby was labeled as the cannot guy. He
1:01:07
cannot get over, the cannot be saved, and well that was always wrong.
1:01:10
He just hadn't done it because it was hard to do. And then
1:01:13
all of a sudden he did it. And now he's won two titles and
1:01:15
everyone thinks he's the best in America, which he probably is. But the
1:01:19
point is there were fractions of inches between being labeled cannot versus already's done it.
1:01:23
Well, Ryan Day's right there. And I'll tell you another one that's
1:01:25
off the radar is Missouri because Eli Drinks lost some really really good coaches.
1:01:32
He lost Kevin Peoples, the defensive line coach, for example, went to
1:01:36
LSU. I am huge on Kevin Peeples not to mention this defensive coordinator leaving,
1:01:40
and he goes down and he gets Brian Early out of Houston, which
1:01:44
I got rated as Fordham half star defensive line coach, and he actually upgraded.
1:01:47
I think his defensive coaching staff overall, and it's the third biggest staff
1:01:52
improvement grade I've got in the SEC. So like Missouri will be thought of
1:01:55
as a one hit wonder from last year. And they still got Luther Burden
1:02:00
at white out, they still got Brady Cook at quarterback. Defensively, They're
1:02:02
not going to drop off twelve team playoff. I think Missouri has a half
1:02:06
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Late Kick Josh get the show The Late Kick with Josh Pate, and of
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You can text a sixer one eighty five three seven seven six. That is
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the couple of Malonial's text line. I do feel, you know, talking
1:03:45
about Josh, like, well, who you buying stock in right now?
1:03:49
He said, Ohio state for sure, and he referenced Missouri. I think
1:03:54
the SEC. And again the question is how many teams are gonna get the
1:04:00
playoff? How many teams is going to get in the playoff. I've got
1:04:03
the SEC with four teams in the playoff, Georgia, Texas, Ole,
1:04:10
miss and Tennessee, and look, Alabama's going to be right there. They'll
1:04:15
have a shot. They're going to be in some close ballgames if they can
1:04:19
close those games. Let me ask you this, does the brand matter?
1:04:24
Kelly Ford mention that if Bama is ten and two in the regular season,
1:04:32
it's going to be an Ole Miss is ten and two. They don't play
1:04:38
each other this year, and there's one spot left with the Bama brand went
1:04:45
out over Ole Miss. Now, I know you've got to get into what
1:04:47
they did in their schedules and all this stuff, But just for this,
1:04:49
is there something to do that will the Bama brand give them the nod?
1:04:56
Probably? So probably, So, you know, Missouri, I'm I'm so
1:05:03
torn on this. I mean, we saw what they did. I mean,
1:05:05
they beat Ohio State, a watered down Ohio State team in the Cotton
1:05:09
Bowl, won a ton of games. They got a lot of people back.
1:05:12
Josh was referencing their staff, and of course Luther Burton is back.
1:05:15
The quarterback is back. You're still gonna contend with LSU. I think Oklahoma's
1:05:23
going to be extremely competitive in the league. It's gonna be tough. I
1:05:28
mean, there's gonna be some teams right on the cusp. And I think,
1:05:30
you know, if you go and look at strength of schedule, for
1:05:32
instance, the numbers that I have, I mean, obviously Florida number one
1:05:35
strength to schedule, Georgia number two strength to schedule. They play Clemson out
1:05:42
the gate, they gotta go to Texas, they play Ole Miss, they
1:05:45
go to Alabama. That George's schedule. We don't talk about that enough.
1:05:49
George s good is pretty darn tough. I mean, George is playing a
1:05:54
man's schedule. I mean, they play Clemson in the open or they'll be
1:05:56
favored. That's a neutral site ball game. But oh, fifty to fifty
1:06:00
crowd. I mean it's Clemson's gonna travel. Georgia is gonna travel Tennessee Tech,
1:06:04
Kentucky. On the road of bye week, they go to Bama,
1:06:10
host Auburn, Mississippi State, go to Texas bye week, they get Floord
1:06:15
in the cocktail party at Ole Miss, Tennessee, UMass, and Georgia Tech.
1:06:18
I mean, that's there's some games out there that could get dicey for
1:06:23
Georgia. You know, you look at the easiest schedules, that Missouri with
1:06:28
the easiest schedule in the conference, Texas number two, easiest schedule, OLMST
1:06:31
number three, LSU number four, Tennessee five, the matters, I don't
1:06:39
know. I think it's gonna be splitting hairs with some of these teams.
1:06:42
I think there's gonna be an SEC team or two left out that could,
1:06:45
you know, crying in their milk, so to speak. Let's see here,
1:06:50
unnamed Texa're talking about the going back to the NFL and the dumbest trades
1:06:54
of all times. Saints dumbest trade, dumbest draft pick was Russell Elbitin,
1:07:00
punter in the first round, spent more years in prison than the NFL.
1:07:04
Brad. Hey, I know y'all are talking football trades. But the Bobby
1:07:09
and EA baseball deal for one million per year for so many years after retiring
1:07:12
as a trip, oh it is? That is a weird deal. There's
1:07:15
another baseball player that's getting money like that. I don't remember. Do you
1:07:17
remember who it is? It's Bobby Boania on top of Bobby Bodnia nothing,
1:07:25
you know, it never gets talked about. He's got a second contract that
1:07:28
is still paying him every year. Really, but the Orioles he gets another
1:07:32
half million. The Mets deal runs out in I think it was thirty four,
1:07:39
twenty thirty four, twenty thirty five. He's got another deal with the
1:07:44
Orioles that runs out twenty eight I think they said. But yeah, he
1:07:50
gets paid half a million on top of his million from the Mets. The
1:07:56
Mets deal always gets talked about, but the Orioles deal. So this man
1:08:00
is still making about one point six million a year and he hadn't played since
1:08:05
two thousand and one. I think two thousand and two got a heck of
1:08:11
an agent or had a heck of an agent. Whoever that guy is is
1:08:14
extremely smart and savvy. Unnamed text Have you guys heard anything about ole Miss
1:08:17
hiring Zacharnet as analys? Yes, that has happened. He is headed Oxford.
1:08:21
He will be in Oxford this year. I don't know the unnamed texta
1:08:27
or so I'm not going to do him that way. If that was Space
1:08:28
Ghost, I said, welcome to two days Ago, Jay Rock. The
1:08:31
ole miss soft schedule might keep them out, depends like what's their record.
1:08:39
I mean, if I think ole Miss has got a chance to be eleven
1:08:41
and one this year, that's what I have them pegged at right now.
1:08:44
I think ole Miss is I mean, you look at this, Furman,
1:08:46
Middle Tennessee State or Middle Tennessee, Wake Forest on the road, Georgia,
1:08:50
Southern Kentucky and South Carolina on the road. They really should be undefeated with
1:08:55
LSU. You know LSU coming up before the bye week they host Oklahoma,
1:09:00
go to Arkansas, Georgia at home off week, Florida, Missippi State depends
1:09:05
on where they're at. Let's see here, Louis Luvier, Georgia, Texas,
1:09:11
Ole miss In Tennessee and the Jets a go Saints, love your show.
1:09:15
Thank you Luvier. He's never gonna let me live that Jets thing,
1:09:16
Dow. But I still want to ask, can I get a mulligan?
1:09:20
Can I get a mulligan off that we just covered this too two days ago?
1:09:26
And the answer is no. Stop trying to make this a thing,
1:09:30
man. But it never happened. Like literally, it never happened. What
1:09:35
never happened? We never had a chance to see her and Rodgers manifest himself
1:09:40
as the starting quarterback for the Jets. It wouldn't have been a super Bowl.
1:09:45
We don't know that. No, we know this. Louvier knows this,
1:09:49
I know this, So many other people know this. Why don't you
1:09:54
know this. I need you to know this. And I haven't even thought
1:10:00
about who my value pick is gonna be. You know, I've got my
1:10:02
college football champion in my head. I haven't told you yet. That's another
1:10:06
thing. Well, if you're not gonna if you're not gonna give it,
1:10:10
then stop talking about I'm gonna give it for sure. I've got a champion
1:10:15
forty eight hours. That's another thing. What's happened in the last two days
1:10:17
here, I've been pumping that for forty eight straight hours. I've got a
1:10:21
champion. I've got a champion on him. I can tell you, well,
1:10:25
I'm thinking of the right time to tell it. It's now, is
1:10:28
it? Yes? Now, now is the right time. Let me think
1:10:30
about it. Let's see here, real un named texter and I gotta pick
1:10:33
my NFL champion because we'll make those bets at a Maristar later on. I
1:10:38
think Ken Griffy has a deal with the Reds like Benia that maybe who I'm
1:10:41
thinking about. Is it Ken Griffy? Does he have one of those?
1:10:44
He does? It runs out this year? He's been being paid. Let's
1:10:48
see, he left the Reds in two thousand and eight deferred payments from the
1:10:56
Reds paid him from two thousand and nine to twenty twenty four. Two thousand
1:11:01
and nine to two that's a heck of a contract and he didn't play a
1:11:04
bit of that. Dexter lou Ding made nine million dollars for four seasons he
1:11:11
did not play in the NBA. Crazy money that is, that is Some
1:11:15
of these are just crazy deals. I named Texas, says Texas. I
1:11:20
can't tell you if Texas is my pick or not. I like Texas.
1:11:25
There's a lot of teams that I like. Toddy Jake, please don't pick
1:11:29
ole Miss Chief shooting Bull. Well for the first time. Let's lump me
1:11:33
in with space ghosts because I didn't know about the Arnett thing. That's Chief
1:11:38
shooting bull. We'll put you in the time machine, Toddy says. I
1:11:42
will jinx ole Miss now, Toddy, I just picked Michigan last year.
1:11:47
Olebis probably doesn't want my ringing endorsement, though, JC Jake, I'm trying
1:11:56
to save you a lot of heartburn. Yeah, you continue to believe ole
1:12:00
Miss propaganda. They perpetually snatch defeat from the jaws of victory when there is
1:12:06
expectations. They are losers. It's what they do. Their entire university is
1:12:13
built upon. Wow, Jayz, you went way deep off into this thing,
1:12:21
one of the biggest losses of all time. You talking about Ole Miss
1:12:25
being in the South. Also, I haven't heard you talk about how bad
1:12:29
Florida is going to be in a while. So let me ask you this,
1:12:34
JC. You know I can't answer that. The first one. The
1:12:39
first one. Jac's coming with some heat today. See listening in the Creed
1:12:44
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1:14:20
Let me see here, r, etc. If you're lazy to my
1:14:26
up picking champions, you're picking Georgia. But Jake likes the chance at the
1:14:30
real money. So I'm going to guess he's picking Oregon. Hmm. They're
1:14:36
in the mix. There's a mix, There is a mix. Oregon's gonna
1:14:42
be good, Oregon is gonna be scary good. Do they check the box
1:14:47
though, That's what you gotta start asking, like, do they the teams
1:14:50
check the box? You know, last year a lot of people talked about
1:14:53
usc US, the usc there were so many boxes they didn't check. You
1:14:58
know, when you look at Oregon, they check a lot of boxes,
1:15:03
well, some of the boxes they check. Recruiting is one on the top
1:15:08
five teams in the country transfer Portal plus recruiting. Dan Lanning has done a
1:15:13
great job coaching. Dylan Gabriel is my number one quarterback in the Power five
1:15:19
offensive efficiency last year, second in the country, fifteenth Defensively. They're right
1:15:25
there on those They check all the boxes, honestly. But Georgia checks a
1:15:28
lot of boxes. Ohio State checks those boxes, Texas, Ohio State.
1:15:35
I mean there's a and again we just mentioned that Florida State is in a
1:15:39
lot of those boxes. If you were picking a champion today, who would
1:15:42
you pick. I'm not gonna hold you to it based on what we know
1:15:45
today. On March sixth, I my god, I really want to lean
1:15:58
into Oregon. And I feel like, after all this hubbub and humble blue
1:16:04
and nonsense that you're making me wait over there, I feel like you're gonna
1:16:12
go to Oregon too. They've never won a championship. There was the first
1:16:17
time for everything. I don't know. We'll see, We'll see, Bill.
1:16:25
I want to know what Beaver's national championship pick is is His Longhorns are
1:16:29
looking pretty good. You ready ride with Bebo. No, certainly not.
1:16:34
Bill, Get me off this Texas train, Bill, what is wrong with
1:16:44
Texas? I could see you saying that if they were coming off a bad
1:16:46
year, they just went to the playoff. They were just literally literally a
1:16:50
couple of plays from playing for the whole thing, a couple of plays ish,
1:16:59
they were like eleven plays from playing for the whole thing. They were
1:17:03
close, Jay Rock, Jake, we know you're staying in the Big ten,
1:17:10
going with the Buckeyes play. I don't know that I'm staying in the
1:17:13
Big ten. See. The bad thing about picking this Michigan pick last year
1:17:17
is I was unfalsely accused of being a Big ten homer. That is not
1:17:21
true. You said it. You said it right there. I was unfalsely
1:17:28
accused of falsely accused. Yep, accurate. I'm not a Big ten homer.
1:17:34
I just think the Big ten is much better than a lot of people
1:17:36
in the South. Give them credit for people in the South. Big ten,
1:17:44
that's what they do. And I get it because forever Big ten hasn't
1:17:47
won a national title until now. Now, Michigan is not going to be
1:17:50
in this picture this year. This is not even the same Michigan team.
1:17:55
There'll be a nice Michigan team. They have moved back to nice. They've
1:17:59
gone from champ into nice chief shooting ball. I think Jakesterer picks Ohio State.
1:18:05
They're in the thick of it. I'm telling you, I think if
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you played a round robin, you could go Oregon, Ohio State, Georgia,
1:18:15
Texas. Notre Dame is going to be right there. Believe it or
1:18:23
not. I don't know if they have it yet, depends on how Riley
1:18:28
Leonard plays at quarterback transferred from Duke. Notre Dame is going to be there.
1:18:33
They're going to be in the party. But can Notre Dame do what
1:18:38
Michigan failed to do but finally did. Can they actually play competitive ball when
1:18:44
they get there? R etc. Come to the dark side, gentlemen.
1:18:48
This year we put our duckats on the duck hats on the ducks. I
1:18:55
like the way he did that, So I think Rhett is redd is putting
1:18:59
all of his Ducats in the duck camp. He's going with the Greens,
1:19:03
He's going with the Ducks. It's not a bad pick. Artist says Ohio
1:19:10
State has the most talent. They have, Yes, they have the well,
1:19:15
see it's so thin you could, but Georgia has as much talent as
1:19:19
Ohio State Oregon. Their talent is as good as Ohio State. Texas is
1:19:26
right there. I mean, Nobody's what I'm saying. Nobody is head and
1:19:29
shoulders at the top better than the other. Like really, just head and
1:19:32
shoulders. Do you believe that? Now? I'm not saying there's a Cinderella,
1:19:40
but I'm saying there's a there's a group of teams. There's a group
1:19:43
of players at the poker table, and it ain't that many. They're all
1:19:45
pretty close. All I'm all I'm thinking about is Okay. I said,
1:19:53
I think you're gonna go Oregon. I feel like you're going to Texas.
1:19:56
Now, it's either gonna be Oregon or Texas. I'm not gonna come back
1:20:06
until you you make this big quote unquote big announcement that you keep teasing come
1:20:15
back. Because I'm tired of hearing about it. I won't run another minute
1:20:17
of this show. So if you see, Lord, yeah, how about
1:20:23
that? You're gonna make me punch this piece out on my website because I
1:20:26
wanted to put the piece out first and then that way be out there for
1:20:29
people to read. You're gonna make me do this in the next twenty four
1:20:32
hours. I can't sit here and hear this anymore. Let me see if
1:20:39
I can roll this thing out by tomorrow, because I gotta have you to
1:20:42
run the show, like I have no pilot. Well, actually, you
1:20:47
know, I'm told that I am nothing more than a board op. Really,
1:20:53
yeah, that's that's our manager's thought. So hey can't pay attention to
1:20:59
managers. They just manage. So I'm not that important. So if you
1:21:02
don't, you may not need me. Just bring in some random Jabron and
1:21:09
you don't have to make your You can keep saying I've got the national champion.
1:21:14
Did my brain, my luscious brain, but I'm not going to give
1:21:17
it to you peasants. All right, fine, I will do this tomorrow.
1:21:25
I've done it. I've beat you down. No, I won,
1:21:27
never mind, I win. Feel good about this, dad gum it all
1:21:30
right tomorrow it is Space Ghost, Go buck Eyes Bulldog forty four. The
1:21:38
Expos traded Randy Johnson for Mark Langston. Also, nobody has ever had an
1:21:44
agent that can top Jimbo Fishers. That is true, right, I mean,
1:21:47
there's no doubt about it. I forgot about that Randy Johnson trade.
1:21:50
Let's see RITC. My grudge favorite this year is Georgia because I would like
1:21:56
to see Matt Luke fill up one hand with ant rings before Kiffin smells the
1:22:00
playoff rt. Will Rodgers will be crushed if he picks Texas. Jake can't
1:22:06
handle that. What's he doing about Will Rogers will? Where real Rogers fits
1:22:14
into all this? J C j C is in a role today. Heah,
1:22:20
let's see real quick, mister d X bet the house on the forty
1:22:24
nine ers. Toddy Jake, your Michigan pick was like a blind squirrel finding
1:22:28
a nut. Oh, Toddy, you just wait, I guess until tomorrow.
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I'm gonna give you a stone cold lock that is better than that.
1:22:41
RAYP. Phillisparzar and Jake biggest Big ten Homer. We'll have him tomorrow.
1:22:44
By the way, Dog had Florence Beaver. Kudos on the extortion thanks to
1:22:47
Kelly Ford Josh Pat remember catching his King Bacon's delicacy. Lo how means goodbye?
1:22:50
Be a man of increase. I'll give you a championship pick tomorrow because
1:22:54
I want to show and I'm getting extorted. Good night,