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AEW Hot Topics | Grand Slam Mexico · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And nine Ignition.
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  Speaker 2: Five four three two one zero engine running.
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  Speaker 3: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
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  Speaker 3: Ignition with the aw fan Hubb Community podcast team. We're
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  Speaker 3: gonna be talking about some aw hot topics and of
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  Speaker 3: course Grand Slam Mexico. And this show is gonna be
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  Speaker 3: a little bit different because I honestly believe that everything
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  Speaker 3: that we're gonna talk about tonight comes full circle. I
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  Speaker 3: think everything relates to everything else. It should be a
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  Speaker 3: very interesting show. And I do want to also say
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  Speaker 3: that if you're in the chat, please say hello and participate,
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  Speaker 3: share your opinions. We will see them, we will put
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  Speaker 3: them up on the screen. I want to thank everybody
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  Speaker 3: that has also recently joined us on x We got
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  Speaker 3: a lot of new subscribers there and we appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: And let's get on with the show.
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  Speaker 4: This is Kelson, good evening, aw fan Hub community. This
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  Speaker 4: is Valve from Montreal. So if you want to, if you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's all fore of course aw patub subreddit.
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  Speaker 3: The chat box is right at the top of the
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  Speaker 3: subreddit and on the Everything Pro Wrestling Hub discord right now.
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  Speaker 3: It's named the live chat is named Grand Slam Mexico Live.
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  Speaker 3: Very easy to find.
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  Speaker 7: Chela. Howdy folks, this is Chris, and after you join
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  Speaker 7: us for the live chat, you should come and join
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  Speaker 7: in on the fun with our buddies Conrad and Derek
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  Speaker 7: at the EPW show on YouTube for their Dynamite review
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  Speaker 7: Grand Slam Mexico tomorrow night. It is a two and
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  Speaker 7: a half hour show, and I don't think anyone will
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  Speaker 7: be shocked if we get a pretty decent overrun. So
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  Speaker 7: it'll be a little bit later start time for their review,
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  Speaker 7: but they are always good, probably about ten minutes after
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  Speaker 7: the show typically, so it's joined them. It's a lot
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  Speaker 7: of fun. They're really great about, you know, following the
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  Speaker 7: chat and following out like fans and comments and all
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  Speaker 7: that stuff. It's a great show. Hopefully I know I'll
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  Speaker 7: be there. Hopefully I'll see y'all there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's go ahead and talk about Grand Slam Mexico.
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  Speaker 3: Now we're going to be talking about some individual stuff
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  Speaker 3: in this almost said pay per view. It really is
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  Speaker 3: kind of a pay per view. It does have that
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  Speaker 3: feel to it, doesn't it. Don't you get that impression
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  Speaker 3: that this is almost a pay per view?
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  Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, definitely gives that that feeling. You know, AW
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  Speaker 7: does a decent amount of these. They're almost like many
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  Speaker 7: pay per views, but on free TV because Tony Kahn
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  Speaker 7: likes to spoil us.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I kind of admit something I've often
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  Speaker 3: like thought, and it's not like a prevalent thought, but
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, man, Tony com puts these banger shows on
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  Speaker 3: free TV. He's got to really do something special on
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  Speaker 3: these pay per views to make it not seem it's
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  Speaker 3: like another TV show, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 7: You know I do, And a lot of times he does,
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  Speaker 7: like these mini pay per views are so good and
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  Speaker 7: then the pay per views are somehow even better. Like
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  Speaker 7: I'll admit it, I'm a big fan. I like everything
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  Speaker 7: that he, well, mostly everything at AW is doing right now.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Flyboy rex Over in the chat says, sios unite
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  Speaker 3: absolutely just in a broad general term, what do you guys,
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  Speaker 3: think of this Grand Slam Mexico card is a Do
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  Speaker 3: you see this as a overall positive or is there
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  Speaker 3: things on here that you're you know, scratching your head about.
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  Speaker 3: I personally think this is a really, really really interesting card.
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  Speaker 3: What about you, guys?
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  Speaker 6: It is?
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  Speaker 3: It is?
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  Speaker 4: I'm excited for Speedball versus Kyle that sure tomorrow night
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  Speaker 4: it's gonna be a banger bang or bang or banger.
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  Speaker 6: Gonna be fun.
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  Speaker 3: Anybody else with any opinions on Grand Slam Mexico's card
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  Speaker 3: before we actually get into the meat, but the discussion.
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  Speaker 1: I think everything makes sense and everything excuse me, everything
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  Speaker 1: makes sense, and I think this is something, especially for
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  Speaker 1: a life crowd in Mexico to look forward to. I
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  Speaker 1: expect it to be very loud shout out to Detroit
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  Speaker 1: from last week, but I think Mexico City might take it.
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  Speaker 1: As far as the crowd involvement.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I am really looking forward to this show.
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  Speaker 3: Chris Chris let mkay speak.
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  Speaker 2: He's been trying to stay It's all right. I have
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  Speaker 2: a habit of and our people too. I think it's great.
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  Speaker 2: The only thing I'm not looking forward to really is
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  Speaker 2: the eight man tag. But other than that. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's stacked. Tony has built a pretty good card. Speaking
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  Speaker 2: of meat, I'm interested in the Mark Davis versus Will
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  Speaker 2: Ospray match. A big, big old boy going against Will.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: It should be a good match, all.
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  Speaker 7: Right, Chris, What were you to say by Yeah, I
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  Speaker 7: was just gonna say I'm really excited for this card,
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  Speaker 7: especially Fletcher versus s Feedball. That Trios match is really
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  Speaker 7: interesting just because Mistico, Jericho and Darby Allen is the
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  Speaker 7: weirdest team on paper. But I feel like it's gonna
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  Speaker 7: somehow work.
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  Speaker 3: Well. It could have been more weird if you replace
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  Speaker 3: Jericho with Dalton Castle.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely would have been more buoyant.
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  Speaker 3: But look, let's get into the meat of the show
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  Speaker 3: because I have a theory. I do have a theory,
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  Speaker 3: and I want to see if you think that I'm correct.
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  Speaker 3: The Demand were the Trios champions champions until the Good,
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  Speaker 3: Bad and the Ugly you know came out and said, hey,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we're a team now. So the Demand just
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  Speaker 3: got the championship from the conglomeration. Do you think my theory.
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  Speaker 8: Is that the Demand won the championship over the conglomerations
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  Speaker 8: just so they could have this trios match at Arena Mexico,
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  Speaker 8: because who's more popular in Arena Mexico.
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  Speaker 3: In aw than Bandido, Brody King and Hangman and and Paige.
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  Speaker 3: You remember what happened the last time Grand Slam Mexico
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  Speaker 3: last year, Brody King and Hangman and the Page knocked
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  Speaker 3: it out of the park, you remember. So I'm thinking
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  Speaker 3: that the Demand won this championship simply so they could
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  Speaker 3: go on to Grand Slam Mexico and immediately lose it
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  Speaker 3: to the good, the Bad, and the ugly. What do
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  Speaker 3: you guys think of my theory? Not that at all.
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  Speaker 7: I'm just saying I love Fantido, Broby King, Hangman Page, like,
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  Speaker 7: those guys are awesome. I like the trio, but Man
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  Speaker 7: to Demand are my favorite trio in aw right now,
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  Speaker 7: and I don't want to see them be transitional Prios
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  Speaker 7: champions like I've wanted them to win those titles for
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  Speaker 7: a while and have a nice long reign with many
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  Speaker 7: defenses and help bring that prestige back up that hasn't
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  Speaker 7: really been there until the conglomeration. They definitely help bring
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  Speaker 7: raise the level of the trios titles, and I think
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  Speaker 7: the Demand can do that, So I really hope they win.
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  Speaker 2: I'd like to see the Demand cheat to win or
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  Speaker 2: something and then have this matchup, have a rematch it
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  Speaker 2: all in. I think that would be spectacular and then
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  Speaker 2: let the good the bad deadly have it.
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  Speaker 1: I agree. I don't want I don't want the Demand
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  Speaker 1: to lose it just yet. Me myself, I'm not a big,
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  Speaker 1: big man wrestling kind of guy, but the like I guess,
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  Speaker 1: uh to Leona and Bishop Kahn. I mean, they they're
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  Speaker 1: kind of rocking with it right now, and with Ricochet
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  Speaker 1: Air as their mouthpiece, I think it's perfect. I'm having
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  Speaker 1: a lot of fun with them. But I don't put
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  Speaker 1: this theory past anything. I think this, I think it
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  Speaker 1: makes sense. Although Adam Page has only had really two
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  Speaker 1: on screen moments in the past couple of weeks and
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  Speaker 1: so I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Know, it's been a while since he's wrestled.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know if it's very earned at
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  Speaker 1: this point. All we know is that he wants to
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  Speaker 1: go for every title other than the AW World Heavyweight Championship.
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  Speaker 1: Makes sense for him, But I don't know, maybe maybe
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  Speaker 1: too early.
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  Speaker 3: Matt, do you have an opinion.
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  Speaker 9: I would like to see the Demand keep the belts
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  Speaker 9: for a while. I mean, who doesn't love Hangman? But
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  Speaker 9: I I just like the Demand being Trio's champions. I
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  Speaker 9: think that they're very, very good. It seemed to me
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  Speaker 9: that it took a while for them to find their
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  Speaker 9: place together at first, at least for me, I was
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  Speaker 9: wondering what they were doing together. Seemed a little bit
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  Speaker 9: of a mismatch when they brought Ricochet in, because if
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  Speaker 9: you remember, the Demand was hanging out with Swerve, so
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  Speaker 9: it seemed like they were.
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  Speaker 1: Lost for a while.
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  Speaker 9: And I would just like to see them as Trio's champions.
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  Speaker 9: I don't want to see them become transitional champions anytime soon.
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  Speaker 9: And like someone else said, we can revisit this maybe
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  Speaker 9: at all. In that's it's my take on it.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, I do want to say something here.
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  Speaker 3: What I during Dynamite, I wasn't What did the Good,
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  Speaker 3: the Bad, and the Ugly come out was a dynamite collision.
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  Speaker 1: When they introduced.
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  Speaker 9: Themselves Dynamite at the there.
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  Speaker 3: Well, when we were taking this as a joke, Wolf
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  Speaker 3: sent me the Good, Bad and the Ugly graphic with
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  Speaker 3: like a animated render of the three wrestlers, and I
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  Speaker 3: took it and I did a little bit of photoshop.
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  Speaker 3: Took me about fifteen minutes that I came up with
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  Speaker 3: this graphic that you're seeing on the screen right now.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, if you're listening to this on audio, you
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  Speaker 3: can't see it. But it was interesting because it got
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  Speaker 3: a whole lot of likes and was real popular on
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  Speaker 3: social media, except for one thing. People were saying, why
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  Speaker 3: is Adam Page the ugly?
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  Speaker 9: I was wondering that too.
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  Speaker 3: There's an explanation here in the Spaghetti Westerns. And I'm
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  Speaker 3: old enough to have been alive when these movies were
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  Speaker 3: actually being released. In the Italian version of this, which
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  Speaker 3: is this is the Spaghetti Westerns means it's an Italian Western.
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  Speaker 3: Sergeio Leone is a Italian director, you know, for Italian movies. Anyway.
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  Speaker 3: The actual Italian title is The Good, the Ugly, and
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  Speaker 3: the Bad. So the actuality in this graphic, Bad Dido
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  Speaker 3: is the good, Brody King is in fact the ugly,
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  Speaker 3: and Adam Page is the bad. He's kind of set
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  Speaker 3: that straight because there are a lot of people. There
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  Speaker 3: were a lot of people that were like, how could
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  Speaker 3: you possibly you know? They're being you know, funny about it.
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  Speaker 3: They were comical It wasn't like people were actually upset,
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  Speaker 3: you know, but how could you say that the heckman
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  Speaker 3: of pages, you know, the ugly he's so beautiful.
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  Speaker 7: And I'm like, okay, you know, I thought you might
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  Speaker 7: have been going for irony, like you know, when a
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  Speaker 7: six foot five, three hundred pound guy is called tiny.
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  Speaker 3: Now, no, it is the truth. Gattivo is based the
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  Speaker 3: bad the translation.
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  Speaker 1: For something to add about the titles, And I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you guys feel the same way, but I
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  Speaker 1: feel like the trios titles are kind of a stepping
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  Speaker 1: stone title. So I personally did not like the conglomeration
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  Speaker 1: as Trios Trios champions. I think having two young guys
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  Speaker 1: currently in in in to Leona and Bishop Khan, having
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  Speaker 1: two younger guys as Trios champions, I think just that's
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  Speaker 1: what the championship should be. I don't think any of
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  Speaker 1: these three Bendido, Brodie, King and Hangman need these titles
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  Speaker 1: to to, you know, really do anything for themselves.
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  Speaker 3: Well, no, I agree with you what you said a
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  Speaker 3: stepping stone title. Did you mean kind of like a
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  Speaker 3: mid card title?
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  Speaker 1: Mid card but also it gives a chance to some
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  Speaker 1: younger talent to kind of you know, take some gold
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  Speaker 1: and run with it however they can, and see see
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  Speaker 1: what they can do with it. As someone that may
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  Speaker 1: be a little newer.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, when I came up with
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  Speaker 3: my theory about this match in particular, I mean I
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  Speaker 3: was just going for a fan service. I mean, if
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  Speaker 3: you have the good de bat and the ugly I
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  Speaker 3: love calling these that group that. Uh, if you have
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  Speaker 3: them win at Arena Mexico, the crowd is going to
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  Speaker 3: go insane. They're going to lose their minds. I mean
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  Speaker 3: we know that, and that's probably what they're going for here.
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  Speaker 3: If they do, in fact win the titles and become
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  Speaker 3: Trios champions, well man.
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  Speaker 7: The heat the command would especially if they cheat to
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  Speaker 7: win it. Ah, some booze would rain down. You may
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  Speaker 7: see some trash thrown.
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  Speaker 3: Like.
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  Speaker 7: The heat they would get would be unreal. And I'm
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  Speaker 7: just waiting for the inevitable. Brodie Kings, Toto Leona stare down,
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  Speaker 7: you know, meet in the middle, bounce off each other,
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  Speaker 7: host battle greatness.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I do want to say one more thing
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  Speaker 3: about this graphic that I found funny. Some people were
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  Speaker 3: actually saying to me, why does Brody King have a gun?
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  Speaker 3: But I'm like, okay, well, the original poster basically had
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  Speaker 3: a gun, you know, so they all had guns, I think.
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  Speaker 3: But anyway, I found it interesting because there's that little
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  Speaker 3: in the bottom right hand corner to Brody king grat
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  Speaker 3: there's a gun, right but not a single person said
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  Speaker 3: anything about the gigantic hole in the middle of his abdomen.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, it's like nobody brought up the big gunshot hole,
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  Speaker 3: you know, in the middle of his abdomen. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was clever nobody noticed it, so I
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  Speaker 3: thought I pointed out AW fans, the least observant fans
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  Speaker 3: on the planet. But remember I said that what we
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  Speaker 3: were going to talk about was going to come full circle,
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  Speaker 3: and it really does, because the next thing I want
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  Speaker 3: to talk about is this AWS ten Championship belts. There
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  Speaker 3: have been six title. Six of those belts have changed
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  Speaker 3: hands in the last thirty days, and when you think
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  Speaker 3: about it, I'm not sure if it's within thirty days,
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  Speaker 3: but it'd be pretty close. If Keny Omega loses the
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  Speaker 3: will Osbury, you know, on the thirtieth at all, in
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  Speaker 3: that's another title change. So when you look at the good,
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  Speaker 3: the bad, and the Ugly possibly winning the trios titles
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  Speaker 3: at Grand Slam Mexico. It kind of fits right into
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  Speaker 3: what AAW has been doing. Do you like the fact
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  Speaker 3: that AAW I use the term hot potatoes? It probably
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  Speaker 3: wasn't really good term to use, But do you like
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  Speaker 3: the fact that AW is hot potatoing their titles so much?
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  Speaker 3: Because when you look at it, they are changing hands
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  Speaker 3: really fast?
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  Speaker 7: Well, I think the only ones that have really been
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  Speaker 7: hot potato is really the world title and the TBS
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  Speaker 7: to an extent.
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  Speaker 3: But on that and Chris Chris, it's a fact that
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  Speaker 3: six of the title of the ten, six of the
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  Speaker 3: ten belts had changed hands in the last thirty days.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, I understand that, but hot potato kind of means
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  Speaker 7: like they change from one person to the next to
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  Speaker 7: the next within that thirty days. But that's only true
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  Speaker 7: with the AW and the TBS. With the International Tickets
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  Speaker 7: had a solid run with the belt before dropping it
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  Speaker 7: to Fletcher. The Conglomeration had a solid run with the trios.
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  Speaker 7: Heexla had a very good run with the women's title.
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  Speaker 7: Davis had a solid run with the national title, the
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  Speaker 7: TBF title I've always said it, and the TNT I
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  Speaker 7: like it more as a kind of TV type title,
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  Speaker 7: so I don't mind when those change hands, you know,
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  Speaker 7: relative with a relatively short rain, because hopefully we're getting
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  Speaker 7: four or five six defenses before that title thing. The
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  Speaker 7: only one I really haven't liked it with is the
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  Speaker 7: AW World title. Like if Omega versus Off Pray was
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  Speaker 7: always the plan, Omega should have won it at the
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  Speaker 7: previous pay per view where he faced MJF and we
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  Speaker 7: could have just I like Darby's brain, but we could
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  Speaker 7: have gone without.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, then that's fair enough. Let's hear from other people.
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  Speaker 3: Do you guys think that this trend WORAW is changing
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  Speaker 3: titles rather quickly, should continue or do you want to
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  Speaker 3: see some longer title reigns.
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  Speaker 1: I like the switching. I think as long as as
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  Speaker 1: long as it's not so obvious that they're doing it
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  Speaker 1: for all in, you know, if they continue to do this,
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  Speaker 1: I like it. I don't particularly like super long reigns.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys are fans of Luca Underground,
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  Speaker 1: but I had a lot of fun with that show,
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  Speaker 1: and that's because they weren't very afraid to switch up titles.
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  Speaker 1: I think giving that identity to aw would be really funk.
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  Speaker 3: You were about to say something I have.
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  Speaker 2: The only one I have a problem with really is
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  Speaker 2: the TBS taking it off of Willow because of health reasons,
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  Speaker 2: but then a month later, you know, and then she
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  Speaker 2: did get it and then gets taken off Sheida. That
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  Speaker 2: was kind of weird to me. But that's really the
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  Speaker 2: only one that stands out out to me. I understand
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  Speaker 2: the need because of an MJF injury to put it
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  Speaker 2: on Kenny Omega where they did. I can't Mark Davis.
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  Speaker 2: I had to disagree with Chris. He said Mark Davis
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  Speaker 2: had a good run with it. I don't remember him
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  Speaker 2: having that many good matches and that will have a
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  Speaker 2: run with it. But no, I don't like the habitating
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  Speaker 2: on myself.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not a big fan of long title reigns. I've
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  Speaker 3: said that before on this on this podcast. But I'm
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  Speaker 3: I'm a little bit I'm not concerned, but wondering why
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  Speaker 3: we're doing such quick especially like with the world title.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you went from MGF to Darby Allen, to MGF,
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: to Kenny Omega and now probably to to will Osprey.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: I'm interested to see what when we put up the
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: prediction polls about ten days before we're all in to
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: see what the aw fan hub community he thinks of
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: that particular match, because I want to see how many
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: people actually give Kenny Omega a shot at retaining. But anyway,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm not I'm not adverse to titles changing,
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: especially like the TBS title and the TNT channel title,
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: which are open challenge TV titles. Basically, I don't have
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: a problem with those changing, but I do kind of
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: have a problem with, uh, you know, the World Championships
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: on both the women's and the women's sides changing hands.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: We haven't heard from val or Net on this topic yet.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: I'd like to hear what they have to say.
• 21:35
  Speaker 9: Sorry, I don't mind the titles changing hands. It gives
• 21:41
  Speaker 9: everybody a chance to compete and it makes it a
• 21:47
  Speaker 9: little more exciting. I do wish they had them a
• 21:52
  Speaker 9: little while longer, especially on the women's side.
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 21:57
  Speaker 9: So I don't know. I'm can fuse from what they're
• 22:01
  Speaker 9: doing and how it's going, I have I have yet
• 22:04
  Speaker 9: to form a really good opinion on it. I think
• 22:08
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: I really do think that if this trend of the titles,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: you know, changing hands fairly quickly continues for the rest
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: of the year. I think people will stand up and notice,
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: you know, and maybe some people may even complain that
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: it diminishes the titles. I don't think so, but you know,
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: you kind of do have to listen to what the
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: what the fans say, and you know, as far as
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: that goes, Val, did you have an opinion?
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm kind of I kind of agree with net
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: a little bit. I don't like longer rings, just like Kelson.
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: I don't like being chap someone being championed for over
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: a year or so, like MJF was. But I agree
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: with Chris on.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: The aw World Champion. Kenny should have won at Dynesty
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: in my opinion and skip the Darby ring that that's
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: my opinion, but it's very very difficult for me to
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: have an opinion on it based on what I'm seeing.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: It needs for me to make sense, and for now
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: it doesn't.
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: So I'll wait and see.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you brought up a good point with
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: MGF and is what was it four hundred and Yeah,
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: I want to say four hundred and six. I probably
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: got a run. But anyway, that kind of tole rain
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: is different to me, because MGF is just a polarizing character.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: He when he defended it was an event, you know
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: what I mean, whereas somebody like Jade Cargill was just
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: doing squash matches that lasted, you know, three minutes, four minutes,
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: you know, kind of thing when she was TVs champion
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: and that just did not make that didn't make any
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: sense to me. That was that was stale. It was stale.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: That was That was a term that a lot of
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: people on social media used about j Cargill's run. It
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: was stale, not j car Gills's fault, by the way.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: That's the way it was booked. But you never heard
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: that being said about.
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: M j and when she used to be champion, sorry Kelson,
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: when she used to be champion, I put it on mute.
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: I was not interested at all.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, but again, it wasn't her fault. It
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: was the booking. And it may have a lot to
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: do with the state of the division at that time.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: You had not as many bid carters that were viable contenders.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, you had some people like sky Blue, Julia
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Hart you know, that were there and they you know,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: if if j Cargo was the champion, TVs. Champion right now,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: it would be different because there are more mid card
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: content that actually have experience. Back then, you had way
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: too many young talent that just didn't have a lot
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: of experience. I mean, so you know, that was that.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: But you know, you can also look at John Moxley's
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: you know, Briefcase Run as something that some people loved
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: and some people didn't, you know, and it just it
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: is what it is. But what the Briefcase Run did
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: was that when it finally came to the payoff of
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Hangman Adam Paige winning it and opening up the briefcase
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: and taking out the aw World Championship at all in Texas,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: that was a pretty big moment, you know. So you know,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: it really worked and I loved that match simply because
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Hangman Addam Paige had a lot of help come out
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: to help him. If you remember, he had Swear Strickland
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: and I believe will Ospray and a few other people
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: came out to Alphabet. At no point did any of
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: them touch John Moxley. They were just clearing out the
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: other death writers that were trying to interfere, but they
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: never actually interfered in the match. And that was perfectly done.
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: That was probably my second favorite match I've ever seen live.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's move on because again, this next topic
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: kind of relates to this topic and every other topic,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: and that is, Kenny Omega and Willow Nightingale are the
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: men's and women's world champions right now? Do they even
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: need to defend the title before their respective all in matches?
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: What do you guys think about that? What they went
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: all the way to all in, all the way to
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: all in and not defend their title once until all in?
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, Beal, I'll go first.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: I would see Kenny versus Peedball because of the promise
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: that he made to Speedball way way back before Dynasty
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: to give him a title shot. I would Willow I
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: would too because my opinion is that it was a
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: bad decision to have her to have the title, and
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: I would too. I would do a rematch with Tech
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Class dynamidal collision or something for the.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Title or the title, Okay, anybody else with opinion on this.
• 27:35
  Speaker 9: I wish that they would not defend leading up to
• 27:40
  Speaker 9: their matches. It can give you a little bit more
• 27:44
  Speaker 9: of a guess of who's going to win what A
• 27:48
  Speaker 9: lot of time when they do the matches before the
• 27:52
  Speaker 9: pay per views. You know who's going to win because
• 27:55
  Speaker 9: they're on the graphic for the pay per view. So
• 27:59
  Speaker 9: I wish they would stop doing that and just.
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: Leave a lot of suspense.
• 28:06
  Speaker 9: Maybe some coming out and talking in the ring and
• 28:09
  Speaker 9: hyping it up and some stare downs with their all
• 28:12
  Speaker 9: in or whatever pay per view opponents, but no, not
• 28:17
  Speaker 9: running around having matches leading up to the pay per view.
• 28:21
  Speaker 9: Give it a maybe two weeks of really building it
• 28:25
  Speaker 9: up and really hyping it up. For me, it makes
• 28:28
  Speaker 9: the pay per view more exciting if you don't know
• 28:33
  Speaker 9: that the champion is going to walk out champion still,
• 28:38
  Speaker 9: so I.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Would rather not see it.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right me. I want to ask you a question,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: mat because you said something that I actually one hundred
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: percent agree with you in Because if you, as Valerie said,
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: well you want to see Kenny Omega defend the title,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: say it not this coming week but the week after
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: against Mike Bailey. Why would you want to see that?
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Because you know Mike Bailey is going to lose. But
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: I have a proposal for you, and I want to
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: hear what Net thinks about this, because what she said
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: made sense. Net using Valerie's match idea. How would you
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: feel if Kenny Omega had a match with Speedball, Mike
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Bailey or Willow, Nike Gillana match with Tecla or somebody
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: else before all in, but it's an eliminator match, meaning
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: that if they get beat, that person gets a future
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: world title match guaranteed.
• 29:46
  Speaker 9: I wouldn't mind that. I wouldn't mind saying that.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Because that means like Kenny Omega could lose it, it wouldn't
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: cost him the title and it would be a story.
• 29:57
  Speaker 9: Right, Yeah, they give us something for later.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: And with Willow, if she defended, if she did an
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: eliminator match against Techla, could then make that match a
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: three ways. A lot of people have been saying that
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: they want that match for whatever reason at all, in
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: between Willow and Monett to be a three way with
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Techlan included in that. There are a lot of people
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: who've been saying that on the subway.
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Think it's because Tecla.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: I think people feel that Tecla got robbed a little
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: bit because she held it for so long, held the
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: division up was popular, and then some people feel that
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: it got taken away too soon. I just think that
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Willow needs to prove herself a little bit more because
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: she just came back and she's only really had one
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: one thing and she wanted so I think I think
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: one more match against anybody really decent could pump her
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: up a little bit more and show Monet that she's
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: not messing around.
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah. I mean, I am ninety eight percent sure that
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: both Kenny and Willow are losing most titles that all
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: in so Hitting has had one defense, so I wouldn't
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: mind another. But if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen. Willow.
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: I want to see at least one defense because I
• 31:17
  Speaker 7: don't want her to be a zero defense champion losing
• 31:21
  Speaker 7: it on you know, like losing it basically right after
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: she won it. I just I'd like to see one defense,
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: and you know, against Techlo would be interesting. I like
• 31:35
  Speaker 7: the eliminator I did Techla winning and turning it into
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: a triple threat because you know, I've said I wanted
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: it to be Techla versus Mercedes. I just want Tecla
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: in that freaking match, because she is awesome, like she's
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: got He's just got that effect or man.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to break in here because I want
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: to apologize to the people in the chat. For some reason,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: our chat crapped out on us, and it just came
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: back and I missed a whole bunch of chats. Uh,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: So I'm going to read off some of the chats
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: that have been said. Wolf says that I would protect
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Kenny and Osprey and bubble Wrap until all in. Uh.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: He also said, uh, Tecla versus will versus Monette would
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: have been better, as Tecla deserved that. I think you
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: know that's that's an argument that has been said. And
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: then Joscelyn came right back and said it's time to
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: move on from Tecla. She could have other angles without
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: the title, which is of course correct as anybody could
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: have a title without our angle without a title, and
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: then said, I guess many don't watch New Japan. I
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: need Mercedes versus Willow rematch. And that's it from the
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: from the chat. I'm sorry again that I missed that,
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: but like I said, it just all of a sudden
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: flooded in. But I'm glad we got those in. Anybody
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: else with with the opinions on should Kenny and Willow
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: defend the titles before all in? All right, Well, let's
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: move on to.
• 33:21
  Speaker 7: I'm sorry.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: No, yeah, that was like a little mouse popped in and went.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: I assumed that I assumed that that was Valerie.
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: Oh but yeah, probably Sorry.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: I just I mean, don't disrespect that. But I just
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: don't think that you had that cutesy hype it's mouseboys.
• 33:45
  Speaker 9: No, No, I don't.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: So. So we've got a new tournament in a w
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: This is a Continental Challenge Cup. It's a sixteen person tournament.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: Let me just bring up the next graphic. How it works.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: No outsider interference and no time limits. That's a big one.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: No time limits. Sixteen wrestlers compete in eight blind draw matches.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: The eight winners then compete in four blind draw matches.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: The four winners move on to the semi finals in Glasgow,
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: scott and Scotland. And I know I mispronounced that. April
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: twenty April August twenty sixth. The Cup final takes place,
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: of course, at Webley Stadium. The winner of the final
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: receive the Continental Cup, which is a trophy and I
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: kind of look at it from my understanding, it's kind
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: of be like the Stanley Cup trophy in hockey, where
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: your name will be engraved on it and it will
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: stay on that forever, you know, and the winner of
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: the final at all In will be the new ae
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: W Continental Champion, which of course that gets them to built.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: But this is something totally different from the uh from
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: from the Continental Classic, which will be what is that
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: usually in Lake in November.
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: November late into December because it's raptically the finals are
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: typically at worlds.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: In right the world's end. So you know, when I
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: first got this, the the first thing I did was
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: somebody's got something going on in the background. When I
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: first saw this as like, oh god, another tournament in
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: aw But then I stopped and actually thought about and
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: I was like, this is actually brilliant. Okay, somebody everybody
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: needs the mut because there's somebody that ever getting feedback on.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, guys, but anyway, this is something totally different
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: because when you go back and look at the last
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: topic we just talked about, does Kenny Omega and Willow
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Nightingale need to defend their titles? This Continental Challenge Cup
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: kind of makes it not as necessary because now you're
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: having meaningful matches leading into all In where you don't
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: actually have to have Kenny Omeghan, will All night Gale
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: or really, anybody else defended their titles that are in
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: are in you know, set matches at all in already
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: you see what I'm saying.
• 36:30
  Speaker 7: If you think about it. John Moxley is defending his
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: title in every match.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Exactly, the tournament exactly, and you know it's really something else.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Jay Rojas in the Chat Continental Cup should come down
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: to John versus Nigel or John versus Jay. If Jay
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: does not make it to the end, it should be
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: because of dogs pre match beat down or a postmatch angle.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: And Wolf says, these graphics are great. No, Wolf, you
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: cannot borrow money. Wolf is one of my longest friends
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: as far as being in this aw fanop community, and
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: he's my brother. We tease each other a lot, so
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: I appreciate you, Wolf, you know that.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to say that I'm going to give
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: it a chance. I have some skepticism. I wish they
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: would have I'm not I wish they would have had
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: it on a different title, but I understand that I
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: think we can figure out that Max. It will probably
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: be in and I just do not want Nigel in there.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: I don't like hometown, home country hokiness. I got a
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: feeling that's going to happen with several different matches, and
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: that seems predictable to me. I want to see j
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: White or somebody else get this. There's plenty of good
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: people in here, but I'm willing to give this a chance.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: Well let's look at the people. Here's the the eight matches,
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: starting with this week's Collision and then continuing it next
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: week's Dynamite. Six matches on Collision for the Continental Challenge Cup,
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: and then two on Dynamite next week. Uh I kay,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: I agree with you. I definitely don't want to see Nigel.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: I don't want to see fan We already have way
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: too many fan service. We got will Osprey, the brawling
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: birds are probably gonna be there. It really to me,
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: it's it's gonna be. It has to come down to
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Moxley versus j Way in my opinion, it really does.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: But I'm interested to hear what you guys think later, Vinson.
• 38:41
  Speaker 7: I love the tournament like I'm a tournament guy all
• 38:44
  Speaker 7: the way. I don't quite understand having a tournament for
• 38:50
  Speaker 7: the Continental Championship three months before you have a tournament
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: for the Continental Championship, but you know it is what
• 38:58
  Speaker 7: it is I am a cited for seven of these matches.
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: There are fifteen fantastic wrestlers in this the finals, you know,
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: I'm hoping for Moxley versus Switchblade, but I wouldn't be
• 39:14
  Speaker 7: surprised if Nigel makes it, especially after him saying to Moxley, Oh,
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: we could meet in the first round or you know.
• 39:25
  Speaker 7: And plus he just put his ROH career on the
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: line in his match at Death before dishonor against Lee Moriarty.
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: I think he's if he makes the finals, we're going
• 39:40
  Speaker 7: to get the same thing, you know, where he will
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: put his in ring career on the line if he
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: doesn't win the finals and he gets to go out
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: in a banger match in his home country. I don't
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: really want that to happen because I don't think we
• 40:00
  Speaker 7: need that. I wouldn't be surprised.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna interject real quickly. And then to let a
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: commentator go that far in a match to me looks bad.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: I know who he is, I know his past, but
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: there are several of the people out there who are
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: every week on the card, and for me, that makes
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: the competition look bad. To let a commentator go all
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: the way to the finals.
• 40:24
  Speaker 7: I agree with you on that, and I mean, honestly,
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: there's a dozen other people I would rather see in
• 40:32
  Speaker 7: the finals. Jay White's the leader than you know Finley.
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: Probably a Claudio versus Moxley match would be great. Another
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: Kyle O'Reilly versus Moxley match would be great because I
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: feel really confident that Moxley will be in the finals,
• 40:49
  Speaker 7: but I don't know if he will win that match.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, one of the things I do want
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: to bring up is that I think it was a
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago somebody Benchen and it may have
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: been me, that John Moxley has been so wrapped up
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: in the will Osprey story with the death writers that
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: other than Forbidden Door, he really had not defended the
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: continental title at all. Well, this is essentially an opportunity
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: for John Mosley to defend this continental title like three
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: or four times. Would you agree with that? Because I
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: know he defended like what was the last week or
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: the week before.
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: But against the Commander.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: Right, Uh, and that was a great. Commander is just outstanding.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: I can to watch Commander wrestle every week.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: But but you know the thing is is, again, he
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: had really had not defended it all that much, so
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: I think uh he probably noticed that. Knowing John Moxley
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: the way he is in his wrestling mind, he probably
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: noticed that. Probably what that Tony Connon said, Hey, I gotta, hey,
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: I gotta you know, defend my title. That was a
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: bad job. Moxley person, I'll be her all week.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: I think he would yell it. I like, uh, I
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: like the whole idea that these are bucket pools and
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: not just they they broadcasted, uh, you know, potential path
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: it gives us and listen, I don't fully believe that
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: these are just pulled out of a hat. You know
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: you have you don't believe that? Yeah, Nigel McGuinness and
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Shabata you have, uh, which which other Kyle O'Reilly and
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Roger Strong, Jay White and David Finley. I mean that
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: I find it hard to believe. I could crunching the
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: numbers on this and and finding the odds would be interesting,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: but I find it very hard to believe that those
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: are actual uh pool from a hat. But I really
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: like the concept and you know what they could do
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: next round kind of keep discussing.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: I will say this too, and Chet, I want to
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: see if you agree with me. But looking at all
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: these sixteen wrestlers, I would say that you know, of
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: the sixteen, fourteen of them aren't going to make the finals.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: I would say twelve of them are shoe wins for
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: the Casino Gauntlet at all. Do you think that you
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: know the people in this in this tournament are Casino
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Gauntlet bound. Should they lose?
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: No, absolutely not. Maybe four of them, I don't think.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: I don't think it would generate nearly the reaction that
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of wrestlers not on this, not in this
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: tournament would get. You know, who's going to pop for
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Jake Doyle, you know.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: No, I'm saying, you know, I mean I think Matt
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: side I mean, obviously they'reeople would popper Orage Cassidy, but
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: they wouldn't popper Matt Sidell as much.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: I think Casino gotlin is is it is like like
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: you've been saying a fan service, it's a fun one
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: and you know Matt Sidell would kill it. I think
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: that's that's a match that he would thrive in. But
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know that that's a match for
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: him for for crowd reasons. I would say that's not
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: the case here. But I'm excited. I think this there's
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: something interesting with tournaments that I think maybe an American audience,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: you know, and watching getting a little more into New
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Japan and start them.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Tournaments set up the future quite nicely. You know, you
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: don't know what exactly you're watching when you're watching it,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: but down the line you get so many references to
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: a match where you know, why would Roger Strong and
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Kyle Riley russ each other in a singles match? You know,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: I think it gives it's it's so many seedlings for
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: the future that uh that this and the Continental Classic
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: will give us. So I'm absolutely hype for this. Aside
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: from just the match we're going to get, I'm excited
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: for the future that this gives us.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Well, Valerie, I've been kind of quiet and nett what
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: are your thoughts on the Continental Challenge Cup. I I
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: like the concept.
• 45:28
  Speaker 6: It reminds me of the New Japan Cup in UH
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: in New Japan. I don't like the idea of the
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: winner being the Continental champion. I would have done like
• 45:46
  Speaker 6: the winner have a guarantee Continental Championship match against the
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: get Well Moxley is the is the is the holder now,
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: so I would say somebody against Moxley at the next
• 46:00
  Speaker 6: preview or something not all in, but the pay.
• 46:03
  Speaker 7: Per view after all out or wrestled Dream or whatever.
• 46:08
  Speaker 6: So I like the idea. There's there's some people in
• 46:14
  Speaker 6: it that I'm not interested in being in that tournament.
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: I would have probably replaced something like Brian Cage or
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: Jake Dorle for speedball because speedball is amazing in those tournaments.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: Well you're well, I mean you put you put speedball
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: the women's champion if you could.
• 46:38
  Speaker 9: Yeah, so everywhere.
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, speedball is you know, And I would even put
• 46:44
  Speaker 6: Kyle Kyle Fletcher in it. Yeah, I know he has
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: a belt.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Considering considering the International Championship and the Continents Championship have
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: been merged for the unified. I agree that.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: By the way, I gotta say something. In our chat,
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: fly Boy Rex said Jake Doyle would get more of
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: a pop than Eddie Boring. How dare you Eddie Kingston boring?
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: We all love Eddie Kingston on this podcast.
• 47:15
  Speaker 6: You do.
• 47:21
  Speaker 9: Letters and Eddie on TV.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: Again, that's the problem with Eddie Kingston. They write letters
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: to Tony Kahan.
• 47:32
  Speaker 9: Hell I put heart stamps on them and everything.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Boy. Let me say this to fly Boy Rex. I
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: was being totally facetious because on this podcast we definitely
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: have a big split about Eddie Kingston. There are people
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: that love Eddie Kingston and then there are people that.
• 47:59
  Speaker 9: That are delusion.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: That actually did that have working that actually have working
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: brain cells. I don't know.
• 48:07
  Speaker 7: I said, there are fifteen great wrestlers in this match,
• 48:15
  Speaker 7: in this tournament, and when there's.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Eddie, nothing, nothing pops see.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: But I want to come on. I will go on record.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: One hundred and everybody know.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: Everybody knows this. I love Eddie Kingston and I don't
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: I don't ever want to see him in a wrestling match,
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: but I do love Eddie Kingston.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know who is sarcastic in this pot and
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: who's not.
• 48:49
  Speaker 7: On this matter. I am not being.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: I will say this to you Tucci. I have not
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: seen an Eddie Kingston match in over three years. I
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: turned the TV off or change the channel. As a
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: matter of fact, it's kind of a running joke in
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: our live chats where somebody will winners it Eddie Kingston match.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: I forgot to say I'm leaving. They know that I'm leaving,
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: and then Kelson. It's safe to come back now Eddie
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: Kingston is gone.
• 49:19
  Speaker 7: They don't mind Eddie Kingston matches because it's like, Okay, hey,
• 49:24
  Speaker 7: I need to use the bathroom. I need to you know,
• 49:27
  Speaker 7: I don't.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: I don't want to make this at Eddie Kingston bast
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: They apologize to all any Kingston fans depends, you know,
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: even though you're obviously delusional and stupid. I do apologize
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: to all of you.
• 49:42
  Speaker 7: Everyone, everyone, you know, that's all right.
• 49:50
  Speaker 9: I love Eddie.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: Eddie though seriously.
• 49:55
  Speaker 9: There's nothing that to love.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: He ahead I'm sorry.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: He's an inaugural Continental Tournament winner.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: And I will say this to you, Tucci. He was
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: the inaugural Continental Championship and we all knew you were
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: on the podcast then when he showed up on remember
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: when they did the U the UH YouTube special, I
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: guess is the best way to put it. But he
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: showed up and he said, I'm going to put all
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: my belts on on the line. You knew right then
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: and there that he was winning the championship. That first
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: C two was the biggest disappointment of my a W
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: life because and I've said this before and I'll say
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: it again, Yes, there were bangers, but you can't have
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: bangers just for the sake of having bangs. They've got
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: that means something. That entire tournament meant absolutely nothing.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they had Brian d Anderson lose to was.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: It was a joke.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Eddie Kingston needs to be on that Cookie Show with
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: Action Bronson. I think that's that'd be that'd be a
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: good one.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: You're you're not supposed to, Yes, what I'm getting.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: I think tournament winners that have just free range to
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: enter whatever tournament. I think that'd be a cool the
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: cool thing to add to these tournaments probably like like
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: you're wearing like you're wearing a master's jacket.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: Right, So we weren't established, so we've already established that
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: Eddie Kingston is in this tournament, which I agree with
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: Tucci on this. He's in this tournament because he's a
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: former tournament winner in the Continental Classic and speedball Mike
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: Daily Bailey should be facing Willow Nightingale and Mercedes Bone
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: in a three way and all in.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, him and Max had history to don't put don't
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: put past that. Listen, I'm not a big guy. I'm
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: not don't don't put that in the atmosphere, they got
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: they got history.
• 52:15
  Speaker 7: No, I don't be surprised that that is a second round.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Two hundred corner chops.
• 52:25
  Speaker 9: And we count them and see who was right.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: We've done that before, We've done we've done that. We've
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: done that before in our live chat where.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: We're like, okay, every time he does cho.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: Lets me count. Thank you for interrupting me. But we've
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: done that in our live chat before, where we've had
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: you know, wrestlers like Menora, Suzuki or or any wrestler
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: that's been known for a chop and we count them
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: and there's been like three hundred and some chops in
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: a match before. It was like, it's unbelievable, you know.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: But I will say this about the most devastating move
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: that Jake Doyle could do in his match against Kenny
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: Eddie Kingston is to let Eddie Kingston do the machine
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: gun chops in the in the quarter because Eddie Kingson
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: absolutely beats the living hell out of himself. It doesn't
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: it doesn't touch his opponent at all. So that's that's
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: a push off. That's a mood for move for Jake Doyle.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: I just think that's funny. I do But does everybody
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: kind of agree here that John Mosley is going all
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: in as the.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope he doesn't win with the.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: Really okay, well, I mean when you look at the
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: other I mean, obviously it's not a true bracket, so
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: we don't know how the others are going to come
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: out of the hat. But uh yeah, but I mean,
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: who would you if whatever? But who would you like
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: to see John box face it all in for the
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: Continental Challenge Cup and Continental Championship? J White, Jay White?
• 54:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, my top three in order? J White, Tyle, O'Reilly, Claudia.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: Yea, yeah, Claudia would be interesting.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: Orange Cassidy is really who I like to get it back.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: He deserves a tie, after all, he's done for being
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: on the mid card lower rain.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: I would like to see the Monday's Yesterday's reveal. I
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: would have liked to see these names pulled out live.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Give me a give me a gimmicked hat, but you know.
• 54:39
  Speaker 7: Make uh Jagguars helmet.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Jaguars hat.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just asking for too much technical knowledge that
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: I you know, to get that done. I'm like, no,
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: I would have loved to see the two and have
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: to mess it up.
• 54:58
  Speaker 7: You know, you could have literally just had blank pieces
• 55:02
  Speaker 7: of paper and he says the name for the matter.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: But they would they would have had the turn, They
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: would have had to turn it around and showed it
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: to the camera. Well, what I would kind of like
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: to've seen, whether they did a draw like that or not,
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: is that you say, Okay, twenty four men have put
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: their names into consideration for the Continental Challenge Cup and
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: we're going to only draw sixteens or eight of them
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: are going to be disappointed. I kind of like that
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: because then you have eight guys who are kind of
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: pissed off, and that's that story, right.
• 55:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you can have one of them go like, okay,
• 55:35
  Speaker 7: I want to face you know, anyone who loses in
• 55:38
  Speaker 7: the first round to prove, you know, I'm just as
• 55:41
  Speaker 7: good as them. There's something or you'd be like, what
• 55:45
  Speaker 7: about us? What do we do? Like give us matches
• 55:48
  Speaker 7: or you know, there's a lot you could have done.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: With little yeah, minor minor criticism. Also, I don't think
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Continental Challenge Cup rolls off the tongue as nicely as
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: just Continental Cup. Maybe they didn't want to do two
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: C two's, but right, I don't I don't particularly like
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: the challenge where.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: It so is this would this be a C two
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: square C three? Yeah, C three that is. But anyway,
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: let's move on to our last segment. Should be a
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: quick segment, but I think it's something fun and that
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: is Hazuki has gotten over big in the United States
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: with a W fans in particular, she's been on excursion
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: for July and August and I've seen a lot of
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: aw fans saying that Azuki should be the first Stardom
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: wrestler to be signed to a dual contract. People love her,
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: of course, she is basic Athena at Death before Dishonor
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: and I don't know if anybody feels like Hazuki is
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: actually going to win this, but it I don't think
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: anybody can deny that Azuki is killing it in in
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: in a w and in you know, United States and
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: Canada when she's appeared. And then you look at Julia
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: Hart and the work that she's been doing in Japan
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: and Stardom. She's the artist is Stardom Champion with Teckla
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: and sky Blue, which is their Trios Championship, and then
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: she is in the five Star Grand Prix, which she
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: just wrestled three nights in a row, which is amazing.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: She is three and one in the five Star Grand Prix.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: She's got six points because you get two points where
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: every win, one point for drawing, no points for a loss.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: She is currently in position to advance in the five
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: Star Grand Prix. She has three more matches, one against
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: Suzu Suzuki, the world champion in Stardom, and a couple
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: of matches beyond that that she could possibly win. But
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: the thing is is that, I mean, I don't know
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: if you ever watched Stardom or Jeopanese wrestling in in general,
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: but when these wrestlers come out to the ring, you
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: can literally hear pin drop. There's no pops in Japan.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: They're very respectful to the performance art that these wrestlers
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: are doing. I would be the same as a pop
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: for somebody playing the theme from Titanic in an orchestra.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: You know, you just don't do it. And that's kind
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: of the way Japan approaches professional wrestling. But somehow, some way,
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: Julia has somehow got that the crowds in Japan to
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: just chant her name loudly and boo at the same time.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: She's really come into her own and she's doing well
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: in stardom, and frankly, I'd like to see Julia Hart
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: stay in stardom kind of like the way Megan Bain
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: did the end of last year in the beginning of
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: this year, where she was going back and forth, she
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: was making a mark and Mega Baby became a better
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: wrestler because of it. And Julia Hart is definitely coming
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: into I've seen her first match was Julia you know, slow, methodical,
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: kind of boring, but she's been doing different moves. He's learning,
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: she's doing stuff and getting a lot of oohs and
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: ahs from the crowd, and it's very popular. I mean,
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: do an exchange Azuki for Julia Hart? Why not? I'm
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: not talking about changing companies. I'm talking about longer excursions.
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, how do you how do you feel about
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: Azuki and AW and and have you watched Julia Hart
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: in stardom?
• 59:43
  Speaker 7: Love me? Said Zuki id minutally. I hadn't seen a
• 59:48
  Speaker 7: lot of her before she uh showed up in AW.
• 59:52
  Speaker 7: I'd seen the Mercedes Mommee match, of course, because it's
• 59:56
  Speaker 7: freaking awesome. Go watch that match if you can. UH
• 59:59
  Speaker 7: and a couple of times in Stardom and I knew
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 7: she was good, but aw, like, I feel like you've
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 7: got to see a bit more of her personality, even
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 7: though you know, she hasn't done any promos, but it's
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 7: been there with the ring work and the crowd work
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 7: and all that. Yeah, I would love to see her
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 7: stick around. And I haven't seen any of Julia Hart's
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 7: matches in Stardom. I just if I could afford it,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 7: I would absolutely watch Stardom. But it's just one of
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 7: those budgets tight right now.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 7: I have seen clips the when she was trapped in
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 7: the submission and like calling out to the crowd for
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 7: help and everything.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 7: That was funny and good, but it's still kept with
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 7: her overall gimmicks, you know, like like I think allowing
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 7: her to add in a little bit of that fun
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 7: like Tekla has done, Like you know, you don't have
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 7: to be so dark and mysterious and spooky, like you
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 7: can still be a badass, but you know, also do
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 7: a comedy bit every now and then.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 7: And yeah, I saw her entrance and the crowds like
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 7: panning for her. I saw like some people singing along
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 7: to her song and stuff. Yeah, it would definitely be
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 7: a first.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: It's weird because that kind that kind of thing just
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: does not happen in stardom, and to have people chanting
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: like that. Usually you'll hear people call out their favorite
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: wrestlers names during a match, like at the very beginning,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: but you don't see here organized chance, and that's that's something.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: By the way, Jay Rojas says, what Ivazuki did beat
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: Athena and then they announced the dual contract on the
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: Titan Tron like they did for Mysticohy before. Yeah, I mean, frankly,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: Hazuki is one of the I mean, obviously she's young
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: and beautiful, but she is one of the older wrestlers
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: on the roster. She's definitely in the top third in age.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: I mean she's only like, what thirty or something like that,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: but which is incredible. But you also have to keep
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: in mind that Kazuki probably started wrestling in twenty two
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: thousand and three or something. I don't know when she
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: was four months olders, I don't know so, but but
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: that's still pretty old. She's still pretty old for when
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: you look at the uh, look at the roster and stardom,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's a Poy is retiring on January third,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: at the age of thirty one. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: She debuted in twenty fourteen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think she did you at the same time
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: in the same year as a Zoomie and Starlight Kid.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: Keep in mind Starlight Kid at a Zoomie or still
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: I think they're twenty four and they started they were
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: wrestling at twenty fourteen.
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  Speaker 1: You know, So yeah, you know this is this is
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: something I love for a younger talent and and something
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: very special to AW. I think they AW puts younger
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: people in a position to be able to do this.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: I I was kind of down on Julia. I thought
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: her her striking was just kind of lackluster, and I
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: thought she was getting passed up by basically the entire roster.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: I agree, and watching her confidence in the five Star
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: is absolutely changing my mind on her. I think I
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: think she's realizing that this is a contact sport, you know,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: because before I think she was maybe a little afraid
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: to make contact. And you know, AW doesn't have I
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: mean they have ro o h, but we don't have
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: an NXT, so why not send you know, Julia Harts
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: all those young guys that we don't see on TV,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: put them in house shows, in in CMLL and stardom
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: and uh, you know the Japanese indie scene. You know,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: there's so many connections to be made there and so
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: much to learn.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: I think, of course you you uh, what's the saying.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: You grind your teeth, you cut your teeth where you can,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: but then you're given an opportunity to learn so much
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: more from across the world. And that's the AW veterans
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: we have today. So I want to see this more
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: from AW to give us that next generation. You know,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: everybody that we talk about banger matches with have had
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: this experience, and you know, I hope, I hope h
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: we don't have a gap in that experience for younger talent.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, Chris, go ahead.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 7: I was gonna say, I wish AW would send at
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 7: least one, but ideally two wrestlers or teams for every
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 7: tournament in New Japan and start.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: I know it's not so easy because you know, we've
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: got to remember Julia Hart's to fill in for b Priestley.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't know that CMLO would just take somebody,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: you know, if they're there to job at some house shows,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: it still gets in the experience.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: But well, you Hazuki has wrestled a lot in CML
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: out this, you know in the last year.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm more so talking about younger AW talent. You know,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: like we have Alex Price and Oliver forget his name.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: I know, the attack team in GCWU the brain, but
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: the bust and the brain, you know, I think that
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: talent sign that you know. I don't know their full
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: indie schedule, but if they get a gap, you know,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: go to Wallacata, go to Puela, Mexico and just fucking
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: and I'm sorry, just have you know, matches and learn
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: a different style.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. One thing I will say about the
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: whole thing in stardom right now is that stardom is
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: such a different animal than AW. I mean, AAW is
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: known for brutality, but in many ways, especially the women's division,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: they straight up beat the crap out of each other
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: at Stardom. The thing is that I mentioned earlier was
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: that Stardom crowds are definitely more quiet. I mean they're
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: absolutely quiet during most of a match. They will ooh
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: and ah and they will clap, but for the most
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: part during a ten minute match, you're gonna have nine
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: minutes of total silence, basically eerie silence, which means when
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: you throw a drop kick or a forearm shiver or
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: a punch, you can't fake it. They land and you
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: hear thuds. Because there's certain things that they do that
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: maybe they do use the thigh slap, but when they're
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: standing toe to toe with each other, there's no thigh slapping.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: They are beating the crap out of each other. They
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: just have to know how to take how to throw
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: the punch, and they have to know how to take
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: it because they get you know, their upper chest and
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: you know and shoulder, you know, between the neck and
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: the upper chest. They get brutalized during during the matches,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: and these are they're thuds. I mean literally here go ahead.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: On the other hand, I've been lucky enough to go
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: to a Saturday show at ANCLO in Mexico City and
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: the heat, the absolute just you think Don Kallas gets
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: a tough time on the MIC. I mean, the Mexican
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: fans and the design of that building. It's the Saturday show.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: It I guess it's a little more of a house show,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: but it's just as important. I saw jets beed there
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: a couple months ago, and you know the at the time,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: the baby is the babyfaces, and I mean this crowd
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: was relentless to them. I think that's just as for
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: performing for a quiet Japanese crowd. I think it's just
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: as important as performing for a absolutely rabid.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: Mexican Generating the proper heat.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's that's invaluable experience for a younger wrestler.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean if they if people want to cheer
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: you or cheer you, you got to give them a
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: reason to do it. And if you're not getting the
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: jeers or the cheers, then you're failing. Yeah. So anybody else,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: So any opinions on Azuki in aw and Julia Hart
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: and stardom.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would jump in because Chris, you can watch
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: Julia on YouTube on the stardom startom paid because this
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: is where I found her matches on the ground prex
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: and I've discovered a new form of what's the term joshi.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 6: So I love this, I really do. And I'm so
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 6: so happy for Julia. I think she's gonna do great.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 6: I've seen the three matches that she has done and
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 6: she's fantastic. Over there and everybody that isn't that tournament.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 6: I don't know anything about them, and I'm just seeing
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 6: a whole new bunch of women wrestlers in Japan, So
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 6: this is really cool.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: And Azuki, oh my gosh. I fell in love with
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: her the moment I saw her in a w and
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: I became a fan.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 6: I did not watch the match against Mercedes, and I
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 6: know that.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: I should, but sign me up. I wanted Zucchi a
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: w asap.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: Please do yourself a favor, Bell if you haven't done it,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: to start them. I think the Stardom World is a
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: YouTube channel that just started. They put the entire match.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw. I don't know if
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: you okay, but I.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: Saw I saw Julia's matches there on the YouTube.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: That's that's That's that startum Official. Startom World did have
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: the entire five star GP from a few nights ago.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: They put the entire entire thing on there. But if
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: you haven't seen the match, if you want to fall
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: in love with women's wrestling knowing nothing at all about
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: these wrestlers, go watch Saya Kamatani versus tam Nakano from
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: the from the what was it dream No All Star
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: All Star Grand Queendom from last April. I can't watch
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: that match. I can't. I cannot watch that match and
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: not get emotional. It's I've watched it twenty times and
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: I missed up every time. In the Stardom g Stardom
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: World on YouTube has that entire match up in its
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: entirety from the entrances, the absolutely stunning entrances until just
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: the most emotional match throughout and the ending, and it
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: was the last match in the pay per view and
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: how they entered the pay per view was absolutely brilliant.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: This match is how I believe as far as women's
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: matches go, and it is the gold standard of any
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: women's match. How to do a production. Maybe not as
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: far as maybe the match itself you could find just
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: as good, but as far as from the beginning to
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: the end, the production, the emotion, the intensity cannot be beat.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: Go watch Saya Kamatani versus Tam Decano from the All
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: Star Grand Queendom of twenty twenty five. It's absolutely brilliant.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: And I will say this, remember Julia Hart is the
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: Artist's Stardom Champion with Techlin sky Blue, now the Techlan
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: is not the world champion. Don't be shocked. Don't be
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: shocked if you have the triangle madness against neogenesis or
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: cosmic angels at all in in a match at all
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: in for the artists' starting championship, and I think stardom
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: deserves it and I would love to see it.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 7: I would be very happy about that. It's techinitely. If
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 7: it's not made into it threat, this seems less and
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 7: less likely.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: Well, look to wrap things up because we're going a
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: quite long but it's been a fun conversation again. Join
• 1:13:07
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• 1:13:12
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• 1:13:14
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• 1:13:18
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• 1:13:22
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• 1:13:25
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• 1:13:28
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• 1:13:40
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• 1:13:44
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• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: mean a discord that it's in the Grand Slam Mexico
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: Live channel. Okay, so that's it, guys, thank you for
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: a really great show.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 6: Oh.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: I enjoyed it and had some laughs, and I think
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: we had a pretty good discussion tonight.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it was fun. I agree.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Well, anyway, we will be back next week
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: Tuesday night. We will be back for Ignition eight forty
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: five Eastern time. We'll probably be talking about the Continental
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: Challenge Cup, but probably a little bit more at length
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: because those first six matches will be done on Collision,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: so we'll have a lot to talk about. See you
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: in advances and on some other aw hot topics. So
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: until then, this is Kelson. Good night everybody, Good night, Kenny,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: good night, Good good night Eddie. We love you Eddie Kingston. Right,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: Chris