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Sarah Todd on the Utah Jazz and NBA, Jazz slim chance of losing their pick, Can the Spurs win it all (?) + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: You were listening to the Sean O'Connell Show from the
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  Speaker 1: Murdoch Houndai Studio of ESPN seven hundred and ninety two
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  Speaker 1: one a half air.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Shawn O'Connell Show. Our number two
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  Speaker 2: begins with.
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  Speaker 1: An illustrious guest who can now be heard on rare
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  Speaker 1: occasion filling in here on ESPN seven hundred as a
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  Speaker 1: radio host, Sarah Todd at NBA, Sarah NBA Insider and
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  Speaker 1: friend of the program.
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  Speaker 2: We welcome her back, Sarah, how are you?
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  Speaker 3: I'm great. I like to keep you on your toes.
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  Speaker 3: You don't know if I'm gonna be here, then you
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  Speaker 3: lose the faith and then I show up right when
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  Speaker 3: you least expect me.
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  Speaker 1: I was only big facetious about the losing the faith thing.
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  Speaker 1: I knew you would show up, mostly because I saw
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  Speaker 1: you like last week. So anyway, lots of stuff to
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  Speaker 1: get to with the Utah Jazz. But before we get there,
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  Speaker 1: I'm interested in a story that came out.
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  Speaker 2: I think I first saw this yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Mark Cuban went on a podcast and he talked about
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  Speaker 1: how he regretted selling his majority shares of the Maps,
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  Speaker 1: not because he regretted selling it because of who he
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  Speaker 1: sold it to. My question for you is does the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the NBA world regret Mark Cuban selling the maps.
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  Speaker 1: Was he a better owner, a better steward of the
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  Speaker 1: Mavericks than Adelson and Dumont.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's hard to really differentiate one billionaire from
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  Speaker 3: another and decide who is better. Fair If we're being honest,
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  Speaker 3: it feels like such a strange story to be like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I regret who I sold it to. And it's like, well,
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  Speaker 3: it's not like you didn't know. You didn't It's not.
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  Speaker 4: Like you didn't know that they weren't basketball people. If
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  Speaker 4: you were concerned about any of that, then maybe you
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  Speaker 4: would have thought before making this billion dollar decision, multi
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  Speaker 4: billion dollar decision. And also, like, god, it feels like
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  Speaker 4: such a slap in the face to Mavericks fans to
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  Speaker 4: be like, oh, I know that he that they traded
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  Speaker 4: Luca away, and now after it's all of a sudden done,
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  Speaker 4: I regret that I regret that I sold the team
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  Speaker 4: to the people that did that to you, Dallas Mavericks fans.
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  Speaker 2: I just.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, it felt like, maybe keep that one to yourself.
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  Speaker 3: You don't have to say that you regret it, because
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  Speaker 3: then it just makes everyone feel angry.
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  Speaker 1: Probably, How how Cooper washed has that decision and that
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  Speaker 1: trade been is? I mean, I know that Cooper flag
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  Speaker 1: is not Luca, but has he been good enough interesting
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  Speaker 1: enough that it's taken some of the sting off for
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  Speaker 1: the MAVs.
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  Speaker 3: It's a little bit of a salve, right, Like I
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  Speaker 3: think there was that initial feeling when they when they
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  Speaker 3: got the number one pick, knowing that it was going
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  Speaker 3: to be Cooper, like, well, at least, you know, Mavericks
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  Speaker 3: fans had a little bit of this thing taken away,
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  Speaker 3: knowing that somebody was coming in had the potential to
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  Speaker 3: be a generational player. But then you know, as the
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  Speaker 3: season goes on and you watch the other duke guy
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  Speaker 3: kind of fly ahead and he's gonna win Rookie of
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  Speaker 3: the Year out of Charlotte for kan k Nipple, and
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  Speaker 3: you're watching Luca be a part of the MVP conversation
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  Speaker 3: for the season and doing great in LA and still
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  Speaker 3: being Luca. I don't think that there's anything that can
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  Speaker 3: really take this thing away.
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  Speaker 1: How does the MVP race look through the Sarah Todd Lands.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's Shay and I don't think that
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  Speaker 3: there's really any question about that at all. I think that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, had had Jokic maybe played a little bit more,
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  Speaker 3: had that it would be more of a conversation, And
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  Speaker 3: that's a little bit unfair, right like, But I think
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  Speaker 3: the last couple of years, right it's been Shay or Jokic,
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  Speaker 3: and it's been pretty clear that that was the race
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  Speaker 3: this year. But really really close behind is you know,
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  Speaker 3: a seven foot five alien who is going to be
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  Speaker 3: even more of a part of the conversation. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: Victor wombin Yama is not even in his prime at all.
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  Speaker 3: He's still like at the very early stages of his career.
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  Speaker 3: And so I think that Shay should be pretty pretty
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  Speaker 3: thankful that he's going to win m VP this year
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  Speaker 3: because I don't think it's going to be a runaway
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  Speaker 3: longer much longer.
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  Speaker 1: When we talk about Victor Wimbinyama and the Spurs, are
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  Speaker 1: they in your mind? Are they how far ahead of
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  Speaker 1: schedule are they? Or even the head of schedule based
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  Speaker 1: on not only him, but Castle and some of the
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  Speaker 1: other guys on that.
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  Speaker 3: Team, I think it feels it feels definitely ahead of schedule.
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  Speaker 3: I talked about this. I was talking with Howard beck
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  Speaker 3: when I was filling in for Spence last week, and
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  Speaker 3: one of the questions I as him, I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I am fully in the camp that, like, I want
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  Speaker 3: to believe that when we have these young and exciting
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  Speaker 3: teams that it breaks the rules. We don't have to
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  Speaker 3: say like, oh, they need to go through and kind
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  Speaker 3: of get bumped in the playoffs and they need to
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  Speaker 3: take their lumps. That's kind of like the old NBA
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  Speaker 3: ism that you know has long been talked about. But
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  Speaker 3: I would love to watch the Spurs like make it
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  Speaker 3: to the finals, make it to the Western Conference finals,
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  Speaker 3: really give Oklahoma City either a run for their money
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  Speaker 3: or win the West. Like that would be so exciting
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  Speaker 3: and it would break the rules. But this team already
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  Speaker 3: does that. Victorian Binyama does break the rules, and so
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  Speaker 3: it's it's very very exciting to me. And I was
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  Speaker 3: begging Howard Beckley please be on my side, tell me
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  Speaker 3: that the Spurs can do it, and he was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I'm already there. Like I agree with you. I pas
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  Speaker 3: the Spurs to do it this year, and so I
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  Speaker 3: the sky's the limit. But like to answer your question,
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  Speaker 3: this playoff run this year is going to answer that right, Like,
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  Speaker 3: are they really ready? Are they who we think that
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  Speaker 3: they are? Because all of the pieces down there, they
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  Speaker 3: just fit together so well. And even you know, talking
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  Speaker 3: about like Dylan Harper, They've got a rookie who is
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  Speaker 3: just fitting in and playing so well. Castle the cell,
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  Speaker 3: Harrison Barnes, great depth piece for them, and like I said,
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  Speaker 3: Wenby breaks all the rules.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we're so close to the playoffs starting and
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  Speaker 1: you know figuring out all this. What do you mean
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  Speaker 1: if you're not having you're not having a blast covering
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  Speaker 1: this regular season?
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  Speaker 2: What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you started the conversation out saying We've got a
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  Speaker 3: lot of jazz to talk about.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm like, do we?
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  Speaker 1: I guess we really don't if we're being honesty, because
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  Speaker 1: we know exactly what's happening with that. We will get
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  Speaker 1: to the jazz. I promise here, but how many candidates
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  Speaker 1: are there? It's a dethrown Oklahoma City. We'll start within
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  Speaker 1: the West and then if you believe anyone from the
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  Speaker 1: East can do it, we'll talk about that as well.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, you flirt with this idea that maybe
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  Speaker 1: San Antonio can What about the Lakers?
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  Speaker 2: What about the Nuggets.
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  Speaker 1: Are the Rockets going to surprise all of us with
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  Speaker 1: some insane playoff run? How many real contenders are there?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I think the Lakers are such an interesting situation right
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  Speaker 3: now because I think for so long it was about
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  Speaker 3: believing in Lebron, because Lebron hasn't proven that you shouldn't
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  Speaker 3: believe in him. And then there was a couple of
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  Speaker 3: years recently where it's like, well, maybe we just shouldn't
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  Speaker 3: believe in Lebron anymore. And this season he's completely switched
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  Speaker 3: the way that he plays. He is playing in such
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  Speaker 3: a more deferential and to have a deferential Lebron James
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  Speaker 3: is like, you can't ask for a better player who
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  Speaker 3: will be deferential, right, And so the way that it
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  Speaker 3: is working with Luca and especially lately, it's just it's
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  Speaker 3: been really awesome to watch and it's gonna be really
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  Speaker 3: interesting in the playoffs. I don't think that they're the
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  Speaker 3: deepest team, and I think they're probably at the bottom
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  Speaker 3: of that top tier that I would say could challenge
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  Speaker 3: the teams that you mentioned, Nuggets, Spurs, Lakers. I think
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  Speaker 3: that that is kind of the end of the challenger section.
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  Speaker 3: I don't really believe in the Rockets. I don't believe
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  Speaker 3: in anyone else kind of at the bottom of the
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  Speaker 3: playoff picture in the West as far as it is
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  Speaker 3: talking about like really challenging, okay see, and then in
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  Speaker 3: the East, I mean, I guess, you know, because they're
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  Speaker 3: not so far removed, and because Tatum has come back,
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  Speaker 3: I would think about the Celtics. Maybe I'm not sure
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  Speaker 3: what to think about Detroit, especially because we don't know,
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  Speaker 3: like exactly when Kid is going to be coming back,
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  Speaker 3: and without Kid, I don't think that the Pistons stand
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  Speaker 3: any sort of a chance. And I think if let's
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  Speaker 3: say the Calves were to make it to the finals,
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  Speaker 3: let's say the Knicks were to make it to the finals,
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  Speaker 3: and anything like that, I think that it's possible for
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  Speaker 3: any of those teams to make it to the finals.
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  Speaker 3: But I definitely wouldn't pick any of them over the Thunder.
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  Speaker 1: There's still a few Donovan Mitchell fans here in the
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  Speaker 1: state of Utah, and he has not had a ton
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  Speaker 1: of playoff success. Is this Cleveland team equipped to help him?
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  Speaker 1: I guess shake that monkey at least partially off of
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  Speaker 1: his back.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe I wrote about this the other day and I
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  Speaker 3: was talking with Donovan about it when he was here.
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  Speaker 3: He hasn't made it past the second round. This is
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  Speaker 3: going to be his ninth year playing in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: He's made nine playoff appearances and he's never made it
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  Speaker 3: past the second round. And he's a really great example
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  Speaker 3: of how hard it is and how lucky a team
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  Speaker 3: has to be in order to make a deep playoff run,
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  Speaker 3: Like there has to be health, there has to be
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  Speaker 3: like this innate confidence and belief that a team has,
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  Speaker 3: like it has to really feel special and the players
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  Speaker 3: have to believe it. And I know that sounds like
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  Speaker 3: very woo woo, but it's true. And then there has
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  Speaker 3: to be depths and there needs to be great performances.
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  Speaker 3: And it feels like every year of Donovan's career there's
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  Speaker 3: been a couple of those pieces, but not all of
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  Speaker 3: them at the same time. And if they can be
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  Speaker 3: healthy heading into the playoffs, this could be a really
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  Speaker 3: good opportunity for him to break past that second round.
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  Speaker 3: But it all has to come together perfectly, and yeah,
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  Speaker 3: there's just no telling. And in the East, really anything
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  Speaker 3: can happen. I mean, it's I have Western Conference elitism,
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  Speaker 3: and so I never really believe in anyone from the East,
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  Speaker 3: but that also also means that anyone can do anything
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  Speaker 3: in the East in my mind.
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  Speaker 2: Sarah Todda is our guest for a few more minutes.
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  Speaker 2: You're talking all things NBA.
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  Speaker 1: She's the Utah Jazz insider for the Deseret News, and
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  Speaker 1: also you can hear her occasionally here on ESPN seven hundred.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to use her as a fill in host.
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  Speaker 2: If that's allowed, I'll fill in anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty twenty two and twenty twenty four Utah Sportswriter of
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  Speaker 1: the Year. Okay, let's talk a little Utah jazz. I
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  Speaker 1: heard you and Porter when you were filling in. You
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  Speaker 1: were discussing this the very slim mathematical possibility that the
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  Speaker 1: jazz position where they are right now could actually lose
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  Speaker 1: the pick even if it stays where it's at right now.
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  Speaker 1: Are we in a world where there's any type of
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  Speaker 1: internal or even external fretting about that possibility.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's definitely fretting. I mean less fretting, I
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  Speaker 3: think than than just mini school just like the kind
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  Speaker 3: of what if chance, because we're talking about like less
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  Speaker 3: than a one percentage one percent chance that they lose
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  Speaker 3: the picks, and so that's really really good odds that
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  Speaker 3: being said, like stuck in their mind is probably the
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  Speaker 3: fact that you know, they're sitting at the lottery room
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  Speaker 3: and in the lottery broadcast ballroom in Chicago last year
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  Speaker 3: watching the Dallas Mavericks with a nine percent chance win
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  Speaker 3: the number one overall pick. Now that said, there's a
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  Speaker 3: big difference between nine and less than one, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: there still is a chance. That being said like, it
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  Speaker 3: would be so incredibly shocking if the Jazz would lose
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  Speaker 3: the pick. The best thing that they could have done
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  Speaker 3: is have the fourth worst record in the league and
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  Speaker 3: guarantee that they keep the pick. But having the fifth
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  Speaker 3: worst record and you know, a ninety nine point four
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  Speaker 3: percent chance of keeping the pick, that's that's almost as
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  Speaker 3: good as possible.
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  Speaker 1: If you were in charge, and maybe somebody you will
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  Speaker 1: be which of the which of the picks that are
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  Speaker 1: you know in that possibility would you be hoping hardest
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  Speaker 1: for for this Utah Jazz? Obviously, and I mean the players,
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  Speaker 1: not the number. Obviously, you know there's a certain element
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  Speaker 1: that's beyond their control. And I think you got to
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  Speaker 1: be number one, possibly maybe number two to get somebody
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  Speaker 1: like Aj Debontsa, which is on the wish list for
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  Speaker 1: a lot of fans here, But I don't know, do
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  Speaker 1: you Are you as high on him as everyone else
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  Speaker 1: who would you like to see in the Jazz uniform.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pretty high on AJ Debonta the player. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it seems like he kind of has the highest skill
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  Speaker 3: level going straight into his rookie season. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if that means that he's going to be the best,
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  Speaker 3: but it seems like he's probably the most skilled right
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  Speaker 3: away out of the high lottery picks. And then it's
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  Speaker 3: weird to know what I would hope for if I
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  Speaker 3: was in charge, because you know, of course, what you
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  Speaker 3: want is a player that you know is going to
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  Speaker 3: help win you a championship. But when you're looking at rookies,
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  Speaker 3: you don't really know which one is going to be
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  Speaker 3: able to impact winning in that way for or five
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  Speaker 3: years down the road when they start to enter their prime,
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  Speaker 3: right And so that's hard to kind of try and
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  Speaker 3: get the crystal ball out to check that. And so
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  Speaker 3: I'm thinking about all the things that I would be
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  Speaker 3: thinking about if I was in the Jazz front office
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  Speaker 3: or a part of ownership or anything like that. Like,
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  Speaker 3: if it's not Agidabansa will then cam Boozer certainly would
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  Speaker 3: also have history in Utah. Ties you know that merchandise
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  Speaker 3: is probably gonna sell pretty well in Utah, And so
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  Speaker 3: I'm not thinking about it just as the encore product,
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  Speaker 3: but you know how well is it going to do
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  Speaker 3: as a selling point for the team if I'm thinking
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  Speaker 3: outside of that. I think that the player that kind
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  Speaker 3: of rose the most for me through the tournament of
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  Speaker 3: Houston's Kingston Flemings. I just I loved the way that
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  Speaker 3: he played. I like that he's kind of a fishing
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  Speaker 3: across the board. The one kind of question that I
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  Speaker 3: have is would he be able to shoot at a
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  Speaker 3: at a higher clip or shoot efficiently but at a
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  Speaker 3: higher volume because he's not a volume shooter. I think
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  Speaker 3: two or three attempts per game from be on the
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  Speaker 3: three point line, and you'd want to see kind of
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  Speaker 3: one of your guards or wings shoot a little bit
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  Speaker 3: more than that. But man, he plays with so much
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  Speaker 3: heart too, and he's just the kind of player that
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  Speaker 3: seems like any fan base, no matter who's going to
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  Speaker 3: get him, is he's just going to endear himself to
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  Speaker 3: the fan base, and so I think that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: that's where my mind would go if it's not number one,
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  Speaker 3: and I end up kind of in the mid tier
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  Speaker 3: between one and eight, maybe hope for Camp Boozer, And
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  Speaker 3: if I fall a little bit lower than that, I
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  Speaker 3: think that Kingston Flemings is probably the highest one that
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  Speaker 3: I would have.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why I asked you about aj Debonsa.
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  Speaker 1: He made an announcement on Twitter today that he's coming
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  Speaker 1: back to BYU for a second season. I'm sure that's
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  Speaker 1: not an April Fool's joke in any fashion.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, not at all.
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  Speaker 2: What's your stance on sports April Fools jokes?
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  Speaker 3: My stance on April Fools jokes in general are horrible.
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  Speaker 3: That's a bad idea. Don't do them. What a stupid,
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  Speaker 3: stupid holiday. Like. Also, if you are a pranking person,
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  Speaker 3: you're not saving them up for one day of the year.
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  Speaker 3: You're doing them all the time. Ask my husband. He
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  Speaker 3: loves it constantly, he's pranking me. And so I saw
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  Speaker 3: one of my friends sent me a video today they
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: went into work and there's a box of donuts sitting
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  Speaker 3: on the counter for everyone, and they open up and
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  Speaker 3: it's just vegetables inside and it says Happy April Fools Day,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like, that's horrible. I would be so upset
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  Speaker 3: if I walked into the office and thought I was
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  Speaker 3: getting a delicious donut and instead saw a carrot. And
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  Speaker 3: even just secondhand, I saw that video all day, I've
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  Speaker 3: just been thinking about donuts. So horrible. I'm anti April
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  Speaker 3: fools If you think you're a funny person, be funny
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  Speaker 3: year round, don't do it just one day of the year.
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  Speaker 1: I would like to see the Jazz official account say
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  Speaker 1: they're going back to the Neon jerseys for this year.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, there would be rioting in the streets.
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  Speaker 1: The Hall of Fame class of Amari Stodemeyer, Doc Rivers,
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  Speaker 1: Candace Parker, Elena Della don what do you think?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah great. I feel like there's so so many times
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  Speaker 3: that we hear the Hall of Fame class that I'm like, yeah, great,
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  Speaker 3: all of these people that And that's the thing, especially
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: with basketball, there's never a shortage of people. And I
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  Speaker 3: mean especially like I think when I saw the list
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  Speaker 3: come out, I thought, how is Kandas Parker not already
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  Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame. There's just I think every class,
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  Speaker 3: I just assume that those people are already Hall of
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  Speaker 3: Fame players, and so yeah, put them all in, bring
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  Speaker 3: more people in, shorten the time that it takes to
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: be able to be nominated. Kandas Parker should have been
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: a Hall of Famer years ago.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Is this the nominees?
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: The finalists for this class were pretty interesting because even
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: like a Doc Rivers, is he a no brainer? He
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: doesn't feel like, I mean, he's eighth all time, I
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: guess and wins, he's got one championship, and that it
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: feels like that's not the highest bar for coaching.
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  Speaker 2: Is Doc Rivers a no brainer in your mind?
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: No, I don't think that, right. It's like in the
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: eye of the beholder, right, if you're gonna ask Celtics fans,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: they're probably gonna tell you, like, absolutely, he brought us
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: a championship like that is a Hall of Fame worthy
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: And so I think that there's many many people who
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: would see that as worthy of Hall of Fame. And
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: then going back earlier in his career, like any any
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: sort of accomplishments, win percentages, et cetera. And then there's
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: gonna be people who say, well, Yeah, he had Ray
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Allen and Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett like, you're getting
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: into the Hall of Fame because you didn't mess that up, right, Like,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: and then what have you done for me lately?
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: Uh?
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  Speaker 3: There there's a I think there's a lot of players
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: even in the NBA that would that would say that
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Doc Rivers has not done anything for them, And so
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: I think it's just in the eye of the beholder,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: but I'd have to imagine that a Celtics fan would
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: will be very, very thankful for what Doc did for
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: them all right.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Before I let you go, as a as a long
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: standing Seattle Mariners fan, I just learned about your your switch. Uh,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: how do you feel about the electronic umpire the ABS
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball? And you know, when we talk
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: about technology and officiating in one sport, for me, my
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: mind goes to, well, how is this going to be
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: applied to other sports? I don't know if it'll ever
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: sneak over into the NBA in a meaningful way or
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: as meaningful way as what we're getting in baseball, But
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: what do you think of it in baseball?
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I like it. I mean I think that kind
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: of across the board in sports, like if there are
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: simple things where it can be implemented and implemented well.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: And I think that the AVS system, I mean, it
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: seems like it. It seems like there was a lot
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: of thought, especially when we're talking about it's been talked
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: about so much. Then the last week, right, is the
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: measurement and the testing that they went through to get
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: the strike zone perfectly for each player. And you know
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: the height that a bunch of player lost because of
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: those measurements, and just the accuracy and kind of the
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: amount that we can see where the ball is grazing
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: the edges of that strike zone. That's incredible and that's
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: useful and I love it. And I think that when
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: you talk about it in basketball, for example, like there
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: are things that electronically, like if you're trying to examine
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: goal pending or you know, out of bounds calls, like
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: if there's ways that we can make it so that
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: we're as accurate as possible and any sort of like
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: camera angle or you know examining that we can do
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: with technology that makes it more correct, more often and
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: it doesn't take up a bunch of time, then yeah,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: I'm all for implementing that. I don't want to do
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: something that's going to add a ton of review time,
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: and I think that the right now. I think the
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: first week of games that they were saying that the
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: average ABS review was fourteen seconds. Great, absolutely wonderful. We're
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: doing less than half a minute. That that's exactly where
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: you want it to.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Be, Sarah.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you giving us some time today. I look
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: forward to our next chat. Thank you very much.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't wait to be on for a Friday
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: so that I can complain about more stuff than just aprifool.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: We will give you opportunities to air grievances. I promise,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: because you're still on the moult rushmore of all grievances
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: aired so.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: And I've been saving it up too. I'm ready to go.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: We're just gonna call you on Friday just to air
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: the grievance, all right, So keep your phone on. Sounds
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: great at NBA, Sarah. That's Sarah Todd of the Dead's News.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: She's awesome. Love hearing from her, love her opinions on
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: these things.