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- 0:00Speaker 1: Oh, this is great.
- 0:00Speaker 2: This is delivering happiness. This is great. Only this is
- 0:04Speaker 2: a special guest. Special pizza for my friend, Mr. Sean Avery.
- 0:08Speaker 2: How are you, sir? How are you, brother? Nice to
- 0:10Speaker 2: meet you. Should we go? How tight do we go?
- 0:14Speaker 2: Tight as you want. No, no, no. Is there a
- 0:16Speaker 2: space between us? Yeah, I think it's.
- 0:18Speaker 1: Good to have space. It's up to you. It's up
- 0:19Speaker 1: to you.
- 0:20Speaker 2: You know what I mean? We're just getting to know
- 0:22Speaker 2: each other.
- 0:23Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 0:27Speaker 2: Have you had the bar pie?
- 0:29Speaker 1: I had the bar pie. I don't know why he's
- 0:31Speaker 1: not doing it to the masses.
- 0:34Speaker 2: I know. You know what I mean? Well, because you
- 0:35Speaker 2: know why?
- 0:36Speaker 3: If he did it to the masses, I think, then
- 0:39Speaker 3: it's not as special.
- 0:40Speaker 1: Loses its cachet?
- 0:41Speaker 2: Yeah, because if you could get it anywhere, it becomes ordinary.
- 0:46Speaker 1: If you could have a slice of pizza in New
- 0:48Speaker 1: York City, where would it be?
- 0:50Speaker 2: Well, I have to say Prince Street, but....
- 0:55Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm saying 20 years ago.
- 0:57Speaker 2: Oh, me? Yeah, back in the day. Where was your spot?
- 1:00Speaker 4: My spot growing up was a place called J &
- 1:02Speaker 4: S Pizza, right on the borderline of Rosedale and Valley Stream,
- 1:07Speaker 4: Merrick Boulevard. Fantastic, this little square that they made. Nobody
- 1:11Speaker 4: made a slice like J & S. They finally closed
- 1:13Speaker 4: their doors a few years ago, but I always wanted
- 1:16Speaker 4: that recipe. My dad would be like, we could get
- 1:19Speaker 4: the recipe. I'm like, Dad, they're never going to give
- 1:22Speaker 4: us the recipe. Even when they, you know, they closed
- 1:24Speaker 4: the shop, I tracked the guy down and he was like, eh, you.
- 1:28Speaker 2: Know, great idea. But, you know, people, they're never going
- 1:31Speaker 2: to tell you. You know what I mean?
- 1:33Speaker 1: He was an Italian guy?
- 1:35Speaker 2: I think he was. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it was
- 1:37Speaker 2: great pizza. Right.
- 1:38Speaker 4: It was just, the sauce on it, I don't know,
- 1:41Speaker 4: it was just, it wasn't Sicilian, but, When you had it,
- 1:44Speaker 4: I took.
- 1:44Speaker 2: It on planes and everything.
- 1:46Speaker 1: Really?
- 1:47Speaker 2: Yeah. People were like, wow.
- 1:50Speaker 4: That fucking J & S pizza was so good.
- 1:53Speaker 1: TWA? Where'd you fly back in the day?
- 1:56Speaker 2: Pan Am? Pan Am. Right close to the airport, though, right?
- 2:00Speaker 2: He's almost landed on my house.
- 2:02Speaker 1: Yeah. JFK.
- 2:04Speaker 2: People would say, what was that? And I go, a plane.
- 2:08Speaker 4: My father used to curse that area. Your mother, your
- 2:11Speaker 4: mother picked this spot. One time, I was watching it.
- 2:17Speaker 4: I'm a big Yankee fan. I was watching, I think
- 2:20Speaker 4: it was 75. A plane went down. While I was
- 2:23Speaker 4: sick in bed watching the Yankee game. I don't know
- 2:25Speaker 4: if I heard it, but it was like in the swamps.
- 2:28Speaker 4: There was a guy, Wendell Ladner, played in the ABA.
- 2:32Speaker 4: He was like an enforcer, like in hockey. And I
- 2:34Speaker 4: think he was on that plane.
- 2:36Speaker 1: Oh, no.
- 2:36Speaker 2: Oh, shit. But the planes, man. Were they OK? Or
- 2:39Speaker 2: everyone was not? Nah, people died in that one.
- 2:42Speaker 1: The swamps of Queens.
- 2:44Speaker 3: Yeah, the swamps of Queens. That's basically what it was,
- 2:47Speaker 3: a dump.
- 2:48Speaker 2: Wow. But I love the neighborhood.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:50Speaker 2: But I mean, over there, like where? No, no, of course,
- 2:52Speaker 2: it's no man's land. Yeah.
- 2:54Speaker 1: It's where they used to.
- 2:54Speaker 2: Put the bodies, right?
- 2:56Speaker 4: Right.
- 2:56Speaker 2: That's like where all like Goodfellas, you saw that movie?
- 2:59Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 3:00Speaker 4: All those gangsters were robbing, hijacking. The back of Rosedale,
- 3:04Speaker 4: it was like Kennedy Airport was the backdrop.
- 3:07Speaker 2: Right. Then they used to have the Concord would come over.
- 3:09Speaker 1: You could hear that.
- 3:10Speaker 2: Oh, you would know it's the Concorde.
- 3:12Speaker 1: Wow.
- 3:13Speaker 2: Because it had a vibration.
- 3:15Speaker 1: They're bringing it back.
- 3:16Speaker 2: Are they? Yeah.
- 3:17Speaker 1: I think it's starting in maybe October. Limited flights. So
- 3:22Speaker 1: you would hear it and it would almost be supersonic,
- 3:25Speaker 1: like a delayed boom?
- 3:27Speaker 2: You would know it was the Concorde. It had a vibration.
- 3:31Speaker 2: How many times a day? It wouldn't be.
- 3:33Speaker 4: Like, you know, a lot of times during the day.
- 3:35Speaker 4: It would be like, you know. Maybe once, you know,
- 3:39Speaker 4: but when.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Early morning, probably a late afternoon flight or.
- 3:42Speaker 2: But like, you know, my house, you know, was pretty low.
- 3:45Speaker 4: I mean, and then as it got more to Rosedale,
- 3:49Speaker 4: I lived in another place when I got older.
- 3:51Speaker 2: It was really right on top of me.
- 3:53Speaker 1: Really?
- 3:53Speaker 2: Like, I could almost like throw a rock at it.
- 3:55Speaker 2: I was like, oh, shit. That's your first apartment on
- 3:58Speaker 2: your own?
- 3:58Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like married young the first time.
- 4:01Speaker 2: Oh, wow, wow. Yeah. I was living right by the swamps.
- 4:05Speaker 2: I knew I was doomed in that marriage.
- 4:07Speaker 1: What were you doing then?
- 4:08Speaker 2: I was a doorman. In the city?
- 4:11Speaker 3: Yeah, in New York City. I was a doorman for
- 4:13Speaker 3: like 10 years.
- 4:14Speaker 1: Where? St.
- 4:15Speaker 2: Moritz on the Park. You might remember it. You lived
- 4:18Speaker 2: in Manhattan, right?
- 4:19Speaker 1: St. Moritz on the Park.
- 4:20Speaker 2: It became a Ritz Carlton. It was on 59th and 6th.
- 4:24Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, of course.
- 4:25Speaker 2: What do you mean?
- 4:25Speaker 1: That's the Ritz. That's where the Rangers stayed during the playoffs.
- 4:28Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 4:29Speaker 1: When the playoffs start in New York.
- 4:30Speaker 2: They start at the Ritz?
- 4:31Speaker 1: The team moves into the Ritz on 58th and 6th.
- 4:34Speaker 2: Why is that?
- 4:36Speaker 1: Because you don't want any, the team moves into the
- 4:40Speaker 1: hotel for the playoffs because they don't want any distractions. So, like,
- 4:45Speaker 1: if you got two newborns, you got a one-year-old and
- 4:48Speaker 1: a four-year-old at home. Yeah. It's the one time the
- 4:52Speaker 1: playoffs you go, okay, they, they, for home.
- 4:54Speaker 2: Games, right? When we're on the road, you're on the road.
- 4:57Speaker 1: But the night before a home game, they do it,
- 4:59Speaker 1: they do it right up until today.
- 5:01Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
- 5:03Speaker 1: So probably the last 15 years, the teams have been
- 5:06Speaker 1: doing that. Oh, I didn't know all the Ranger playoff
- 5:09Speaker 1: teams go and stay and they move into the Ritz
- 5:12Speaker 1: on 58. So there was a club in there.
- 5:15Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 5:16Speaker 1: I mean, um, you worked at a nightclub in that,
- 5:18Speaker 1: in that building.
- 5:19Speaker 2: No, no, no. I'm trying to figure out. You were
- 5:22Speaker 2: saying 58th and 6th? 58th and 6th.
- 5:25Speaker 1: There's a Ritz-Carlton.
- 5:26Speaker 2: There was a Ritz-Carlton. Right on the corner. That was
- 5:29Speaker 2: across the street.
- 5:31Speaker 4: And then that Ritz-Carlton, I don't think, lasted.
- 5:35Speaker 2: It used to be right on 59th.
- 5:36Speaker 1: Okay, maybe it's a different... And.
- 5:39Speaker 2: Now the same Ritz closed their doors after I left.
- 5:43Speaker 4: It stayed open for a while. And now they renovate it. Still,
- 5:46Speaker 4: the building exists, but it's still.
- 5:48Speaker 1: Okay, different building.
- 5:49Speaker 2: Different building. Right next door, basically.
- 5:51Speaker 4: I know the one you're talking about. It's on 59...
- 5:55Speaker 4: And they have a 58 entrance, too.
- 5:56Speaker 2: Yes. Because there used to be a Ritz-Carlton. There was
- 5:59Speaker 2: the Essex House. There was a.
- 6:01Speaker 4: Originally, when I first went there, it was the Barbizon
- 6:03Speaker 4: Plaza that was then eliminated.
- 6:05Speaker 2: Trump took it over.
- 6:06Speaker 1: What year is this?
- 6:07Speaker 2: I became a doorman in 82. Oh, what a... 82 to, like, 93.
- 6:10Speaker 1: Okay.
- 6:13Speaker 2: But I saw a lot.
- 6:15Speaker 1: New York in the 80s.
- 6:16Speaker 4: I saw New York when it was New York. New
- 6:18Speaker 4: York now is bullshit New York. It's watered down.
- 6:21Speaker 2: You know what I mean? I saw.
- 6:23Speaker 1: So how would you get to work every day? You
- 6:25Speaker 1: take the train from.
- 6:26Speaker 2: I used to take.
- 6:28Speaker 4: I would take the subway to Queens and then I'd
- 6:35Speaker 4: drop my car off sometimes in Astoria.
- 6:38Speaker 2: Eventually I was a doorman. I started driving in I
- 6:40Speaker 2: would drive down because I'd watch my own car.
- 6:42Speaker 1: You'd park it right out front.
- 6:43Speaker 4: Well, because I used to make money with people's cars
- 6:45Speaker 4: in the loading zone. So if I wanted to, you know,
- 6:48Speaker 4: I would put my car there, Mickey Mantles, but I
- 6:51Speaker 4: would watch people's cars.
- 6:52Speaker 2: Like famous people, athletes. You worked there 10 years?
- 6:56Speaker 3: Gangsters.
- 6:57Speaker 2: I watched John Gotti's car one time.
- 6:59Speaker 1: Right out front? Right out front. He came into the club?
- 7:02Speaker 2: He came into the hotel. He had all his bodyguards
- 7:04Speaker 2: around him. I was like, oh, my God. I didn't actually, like,
- 7:07Speaker 2: talk to him, but I was kind of like.
- 7:09Speaker 1: Who'd you do the brokering with, or did they just
- 7:11Speaker 1: throw you the keys?
- 7:13Speaker 2: One of his guys. Yeah, one of the guys.
- 7:14Speaker 4: People would come up to me and say, hey, can
- 7:17Speaker 4: I get a drink over here? Give me a 10
- 7:19Speaker 4: spot or whatever. 20 would be great. I mean, 10
- 7:22Speaker 4: is big. Sometimes people would stiff you, too.
- 7:24Speaker 3: They're like, yeah, I got you.
- 7:25Speaker 2: I got you. Let me get the keys.
- 7:27Speaker 4: Let me get the keys because sometimes, you know, I
- 7:29Speaker 4: don't want to get stiffed. I remember like one time
- 7:31Speaker 4: I was watching like Eric Estrada or something was getting
- 7:34Speaker 4: on a horse and carriage and.
- 7:36Speaker 2: Years later I'm fucking hanging out with Eric Estrada.
- 7:38Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, back in the day when you
- 7:40Speaker 4: were a sex symbol, I was like watching your shit
- 7:43Speaker 4: while you got on a horse and carriage.
- 7:44Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a teen heartthrob.
- 7:46Speaker 4: Yeah, he was like a sex symbol. So I saw
- 7:49Speaker 4: a lot of people come and go. Billy Joel lived
- 7:51Speaker 4: there one time. He wrote, that's when he met Christie Brinkley,
- 7:54Speaker 4: the first date. I was like, Mentoring him. He was
- 7:56Speaker 4: like telling me I could go out with Elle McPherson.
- 7:59Speaker 1: Really?
- 8:00Speaker 2: Or Chrisky Brinkley.
- 8:01Speaker 1: No.
- 8:02Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 8:02Speaker 1: Stop.
- 8:03Speaker 2: I go, don't worry. Either one. You're all right. He
- 8:07Speaker 2: was like, you know what I mean? In the club?
- 8:10Speaker 2: In the hotel. He was like living in the hotel.
- 8:13Speaker 2: He was like, he was.
- 8:14Speaker 1: And he'd come down and break bread.
- 8:15Speaker 2: Yeah, he would break bread. He was writing an album there.
- 8:17Speaker 2: He'd come down and he goes, hey man, I wrote four.
- 8:19Speaker 1: Get the fuck out of here.
- 8:20Speaker 2: I wrote four songs.
- 8:21Speaker 4: And he was like, my idol. So I didn't let
- 8:22Speaker 4: him know. I went to all his concerts in Long Island.
- 8:25Speaker 4: So I was like, man, when I saw this guy,
- 8:27Speaker 4: I'm like, what am I going to do?
- 8:28Speaker 2: You played it cool. I played it cool. He's Long Island.
- 8:32Speaker 2: I'm Long Island, Queens. So he was like, Nick, you're
- 8:35Speaker 2: all right. You're all right. You too, Billy. You're okay.
- 8:37Speaker 1: If he saw you today, if you bumped into each other,
- 8:39Speaker 1: he'd go, Nick.
- 8:39Speaker 2: He would remember me. He mentioned me in his book.
- 8:42Speaker 1: Really?
- 8:42Speaker 2: He was a struggling young actor. I think he mentioned
- 8:45Speaker 2: this guy, Nick.
- 8:46Speaker 4: He probably saw me somewhere along the line and said,
- 8:48Speaker 4: That fucking kid made it. He actually made it. I
- 8:52Speaker 4: remember when he went out with Christie Brinkley. He was like,
- 8:54Speaker 4: you know who I'm going out with?
- 8:56Speaker 2: And I said, who? And he goes, Christie Brinkley. I go,
- 9:00Speaker 2: you're Billy Joel. He goes, yeah, yeah, you're right. I said, yeah,
- 9:03Speaker 2: don't forget that shit. You're Billy Joel, right?
- 9:05Speaker 1: He's one of the original short kings.
- 9:08Speaker 2: I know.
- 9:08Speaker 4: I mean, he's the man.
- 9:11Speaker 2: He was the man.
- 9:12Speaker 1: Piano man.
- 9:12Speaker 2: I know.
- 9:13Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of hockey players that I might
- 9:14Speaker 3: have met.
- 9:15Speaker 2: I probably met some Rangers.
- 9:16Speaker 1: What about the Yankees? Did anyone ever come in and out?
- 9:18Speaker 2: There were a couple of Yankees.
- 9:19Speaker 4: There were a couple of guys that I maybe crossed
- 9:22Speaker 4: paths with. Nobody that big back then, I would say. Oh, actually,
- 9:26Speaker 4: Mickey Mantle one morning. You met Mickey Mantle?
- 9:29Speaker 2: Yeah, I met him when he was hungover, pissed drunk,
- 9:31Speaker 2: at 7 o'clock in the morning.
- 9:34Speaker 1: Where?
- 9:34Speaker 2: At the St.
- 9:35Speaker 1: Moritz.
- 9:36Speaker 4: He was pitching pennies against the wall. It was me, him,
- 9:38Speaker 4: and the horse and carriage. Like 7 a.m., there's like,
- 9:41Speaker 4: you know, Central Park South is like quiet.
- 9:44Speaker 2: Beautiful. Beautiful. You know, you look, you know, it's the horse.
- 9:46Speaker 1: Everybody's cleaning down the sidewalk.
- 9:48Speaker 2: Sidewalks. And it's just me.
- 9:50Speaker 1: What do you mean pitching pennies?
- 9:51Speaker 2: He was like throwing fucking pennies against the wall.
- 9:54Speaker 1: Like betting?
- 9:55Speaker 2: I don't know, betting. He was just like throwing them again.
- 9:57Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit, that's Biggie Mantle. Was he
- 10:00Speaker 2: in a suit?
- 10:00Speaker 3: Nah, he was like, you know, he was like from
- 10:03Speaker 3: the night before.
- 10:03Speaker 2: He was like, you could tell he was half hungover. Really?
- 10:05Speaker 4: Yeah, and I heard he was a miserable guy, so
- 10:08Speaker 4: I was like a little cautious with him.
- 10:10Speaker 2: But I was like, man, I got to talk to
- 10:11Speaker 2: this guy a little bit. So we talked. lightly, but
- 10:14Speaker 2: you know, he was.
- 10:15Speaker 1: And then he just kept moving?
- 10:16Speaker 4: He was there for a little, I think he was
- 10:17Speaker 4: waiting for his lady, finding some shit.
- 10:20Speaker 1: Yeah, he had somebody upstairs.
- 10:21Speaker 3: Because they had Mickey Mantle's, the bar, next door.
- 10:24Speaker 4: Ah. So when he was a young guy, him, Billy Martin,
- 10:28Speaker 4: Lighty Ford, they used to booze it up, get blasted,
- 10:31Speaker 4: and stay at.
- 10:31Speaker 2: The same place. Ah.
- 10:32Speaker 1: That was their spot.
- 10:33Speaker 2: That was their spot.
- 10:36Speaker 1: Wow.
- 10:37Speaker 2: But before you were working there. Oh, way before me.
- 10:39Speaker 1: Right.
- 10:40Speaker 2: So I had heard stories about him.
- 10:41Speaker 1: Because you started in 83 and they were.
- 10:43Speaker 4: Like his bar then was next door and Yankee games
- 10:46Speaker 4: used to be on. A lot of times I would
- 10:47Speaker 4: be in front of the bar watching the game. People
- 10:50Speaker 4: would be like, where's the doorman? They go, you see
- 10:52Speaker 4: the guy watching the Yankee games?
- 10:54Speaker 2: That would be me. You know, I mean, I was
- 10:56Speaker 2: a crazy doorman.
- 10:57Speaker 1: Who owned the hotel?
- 10:59Speaker 2: A lot of different people owned it. Leona Helmsley owned
- 11:01Speaker 2: it at one time. Actually, Trump owned it at one time. Trump.
- 11:06Speaker 2: Here's a little, I could talk about it now. You know,
- 11:09Speaker 2: he started his little shindig with Marla Maples. He was like.
- 11:12Speaker 1: That's where they were going.
- 11:13Speaker 2: He was messing around with her. I was his doorman.
- 11:16Speaker 1: At the St. Moritz.
- 11:17Speaker 2: Yeah. He said, like, that's my niece.
- 11:19Speaker 3: He used to come out with his coat on.
- 11:21Speaker 2: I'd be like, I look the other way. I never
- 11:23Speaker 2: ratted him out. Was his car parked out front? No.
- 11:26Speaker 2: He would just come out in a long coat.
- 11:28Speaker 1: And then just disappear?
- 11:29Speaker 2: And then I met him years later at the plaza.
- 11:32Speaker 2: He was like, hey, you made it.
- 11:33Speaker 4: Because he knew I worked for him. And we did
- 11:36Speaker 4: Drew Carey. We did Drew Carey. Him and Marla.
- 11:40Speaker 2: Marla, hey, honey. She remembered me well. Wow.
- 11:44Speaker 3: So Marla and me and Trump did Drew Carey.
- 11:48Speaker 4: Because I was playing James Martin, my character from NYPD Blue. Yeah.
- 11:52Speaker 2: How ironic, you know? Wow. That's before the apprentice and
- 11:56Speaker 2: his fucking, him being president.
- 11:58Speaker 5: Wow.
- 11:58Speaker 2: So I'm like, I had the goods on Trump years ago.
- 12:00Speaker 1: Jesus.
- 12:01Speaker 2: I could have buried him.
- 12:02Speaker 1: Jesus.
- 12:02Speaker 2: You know? But, you know, I was going to. Grab
- 12:06Speaker 2: him by the. Grab him by the whatever. That's what. Yeah, yeah.
- 12:11Speaker 2: He was doing it way back then. Yeah.
- 12:14Speaker 1: And when the park at that point.
- 12:17Speaker 2: Central Park.
- 12:18Speaker 1: Like, it was nice.
- 12:20Speaker 2: It was very nice.
- 12:21Speaker 1: In the 80s, JFK Jr. and the whole, you got
- 12:26Speaker 1: that whole, you saw that slide.
- 12:28Speaker 4: I saw the world, like, people used to come and
- 12:30Speaker 4: hang out with me. They'd be like, man, Nick, what
- 12:32Speaker 4: a spot.
- 12:33Speaker 2: Guests would show up.
- 12:34Speaker 3: People would come and hug and kiss me.
- 12:37Speaker 4: I mean, they would always be like, And I'd be like, hey,
- 12:40Speaker 4: you know, I was like, I was like, I'd open
- 12:42Speaker 4: the show. It was like a Broadway show. And I
- 12:44Speaker 4: would come out front. My bellmen were all young guys.
- 12:47Speaker 2: We were all wild. So we would go out afterwards.
- 12:49Speaker 2: You got to hire them? You did the hiring? I
- 12:51Speaker 2: didn't hire them.
- 12:52Speaker 3: No, I was just the doorman. And then there's the bellman,
- 12:55Speaker 3: the bell captain, this guy, Donald Karabich.
- 12:58Speaker 2: Is he still with us? No, he's probably gone. But
- 13:01Speaker 2: he was there for like 40 years.
- 13:03Speaker 4: He made all the money. He fucking did all the hiring.
- 13:07Speaker 4: I wasn't a money hungry doorman.
- 13:09Speaker 2: I was like very, you know. You were vibing. I
- 13:12Speaker 2: was vibing. I was more about vibing.
- 13:13Speaker 3: Then when I started acting, people were like, oh, he
- 13:16Speaker 3: thinks he's an actor.
- 13:17Speaker 2: He thinks he's an actor.
- 13:18Speaker 1: Wait, is that why you left the job eventually? You
- 13:20Speaker 1: got a real acting job?
- 13:22Speaker 3: I was acting for like three years on the side.
- 13:25Speaker 2: And I was getting work. And then I'd go back
- 13:27Speaker 2: to my doorman job. Right. I worked with Spike Lee.
- 13:30Speaker 4: I did a movie in a week. And people were like...
- 13:33Speaker 4: People noticed me. Matt Dillon stopped me one time. He goes, oh, shit.
- 13:36Speaker 2: He goes, I saw you in a movie. Hey. What
- 13:38Speaker 2: are you doing here?
- 13:39Speaker 1: Nice.
- 13:40Speaker 2: Oh, because you were still working. I was still a doorman. Oh,
- 13:42Speaker 2: my God. That's incredible. And I go, it's my day job,
- 13:46Speaker 2: you know. He goes, I respect that.
- 13:48Speaker 1: And then what was the job that finally took you
- 13:51Speaker 1: out of that? Took me over the edge?
- 13:52Speaker 2: Yeah. It was.
- 13:54Speaker 4: I was up for this series and then I got
- 13:57Speaker 4: sick and I was home waiting to see if I
- 13:58Speaker 4: was going to get the job and then I had
- 14:01Speaker 4: to take a leave of absence because I had a
- 14:03Speaker 4: relapse of a flu and I was waiting and waiting
- 14:06Speaker 4: on this fucking NYPD Blue show.
- 14:08Speaker 2: I didn't know it was going to be a giant show. Yeah.
- 14:10Speaker 4: Then finally they gave me the part and then I
- 14:13Speaker 4: did the pilot and I had been sick for a
- 14:15Speaker 4: few months so I had taken a leave of absence
- 14:17Speaker 4: and I said, I did the pilot and then they go, well,
- 14:20Speaker 4: we want to hire you.
- 14:21Speaker 2: For like seven out of 13.
- 14:23Speaker 1: Wow.
- 14:23Speaker 4: Which meant like I was only guaranteed seven. So if
- 14:26Speaker 4: they didn't like me, they could have dumped me.
- 14:28Speaker 2: But I figured, this is a shot. I'm working out three,
- 14:31Speaker 2: four years on the side. I'm working my way.
- 14:33Speaker 3: Because everybody was like, well, you're doing good for a
- 14:35Speaker 3: part-time actor.
- 14:37Speaker 2: I think you should commit.
- 14:40Speaker 4: So I was like, I'm going to turn in my.
- 14:45Speaker 2: I resigned. And they understood. I had a good run.
- 14:48Speaker 2: I had a good run.
- 14:49Speaker 1: Wow.
- 14:49Speaker 2: I had a good run.
- 14:51Speaker 4: I resigned early. You know, I had mixed emotions about it,
- 14:54Speaker 4: but I knew I was working.
- 14:55Speaker 2: Yeah, you're going to go for a dream job.
- 14:57Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to try. NYPD Blue in New York.
- 15:00Speaker 2: In New York. I mean, you shot in LA. Oh, no, no, no.
- 15:03Speaker 2: I know. No. I did the pilot. You didn't even
- 15:05Speaker 2: get to. I did the pilot. I auditioned in New York.
- 15:08Speaker 4: I auditioned in, I almost didn't get the audition because
- 15:12Speaker 4: they only wanted to see like Puerto Rican guys or something.
- 15:14Speaker 2: And my agent in LA, this wild.
- 15:17Speaker 4: Guy, he like, the casting agent, lady in LA, they
- 15:20Speaker 4: came to New York and they said, you gotta see
- 15:22Speaker 4: this guy.
- 15:22Speaker 2: You gotta see Nick. Get him in.
- 15:25Speaker 1: He was like, they love you, honey.
- 15:26Speaker 2: They love you. They didn't give me the part right away.
- 15:29Speaker 2: And I was like, really? I went up there on
- 15:31Speaker 2: a break. I didn't even take it that serious.
- 15:34Speaker 4: I threw a sweater on and I'm in front of
- 15:36Speaker 4: Stephen Bochco, all these heavyweights, David Milch, I got a
- 15:40Speaker 4: fucking sweater on my doorman pants.
- 15:42Speaker 1: Walked from work over to the audition.
- 15:43Speaker 2: Yeah, walked up to the Gulf and Western building. Oh, yeah, yeah.
- 15:46Speaker 2: That was the old Paramount. I remember the old Paramount.
- 15:48Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
- 15:49Speaker 2: I mean, they used to own the Rangers, right? Gulf
- 15:50Speaker 2: and Western? Yeah, yeah, yeah, for a little bit. Or
- 15:52Speaker 2: the Garden or something?
- 15:54Speaker 1: Wow.
- 15:54Speaker 4: And I remember I was like, and I got in
- 15:56Speaker 4: the room and all these guys, the producers.
- 15:57Speaker 2: Were all in there.
- 15:58Speaker 3: And I didn't have a lot of lines.
- 16:00Speaker 2: I was just like playing a young cop. And I
- 16:01Speaker 2: was like, hands up! And I was like, and they
- 16:04Speaker 2: were all like looking at me like. You just hit
- 16:06Speaker 2: him with a hard hand. Boom.
- 16:08Speaker 4: I was playing him like this young urban Boy Scout
- 16:12Speaker 4: because I was really young.
- 16:13Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know if they're going to
- 16:14Speaker 2: hire me. And then one of the producers.
- 16:16Speaker 3: Said, you made a lot out of nothing.
- 16:19Speaker 1: Wow.
- 16:20Speaker 2: Which is your biggest compliment as an actor.
- 16:22Speaker 1: Of course.
- 16:23Speaker 2: Hey, I give you that much, right?
- 16:26Speaker 4: And you make like what I did in The Longest Shot.
- 16:29Speaker 4: I didn't have a lot on the page. And then
- 16:31Speaker 4: Adam Sandler saw it and just.
- 16:33Speaker 2: Kept increasing it.
- 16:35Speaker 1: He was like, dude, dude, you're funny.
- 16:37Speaker 4: This was before people even knew I was funny.
- 16:39Speaker 2: And they were like, you're really funny.
- 16:40Speaker 3: And he just kept like handing me the ball, you know?
- 16:44Speaker 2: And so that's what happened. And I became a full-time actor.
- 16:47Speaker 2: Then the show was a hit.
- 16:49Speaker 4: And, you know, one of the producers was like, don't
- 16:51Speaker 4: unpack your bags. I was like, I just got here.
- 16:53Speaker 4: I'm like, I wasn't thinking about it. They don't like
- 16:56Speaker 4: me or like me. And they were like, they love you.
- 16:57Speaker 2: They love you. The show's a.
- 16:59Speaker 4: Hit and they want to keep and pick you up
- 17:01Speaker 4: for the rest of the run on the first season.
- 17:03Speaker 2: I was like, OK.
- 17:04Speaker 4: I didn't even know what it meant, which was better.
- 17:06Speaker 4: I didn't I wasn't like I had no expectations, you know.
- 17:09Speaker 2: And then so you get your first paycheck.
- 17:10Speaker 1: Where are you? You're living in L.A. at that point
- 17:13Speaker 1: or you're back in New York.
- 17:15Speaker 2: We mean NYPD Blue. Yeah. And the money was low,
- 17:18Speaker 2: really low.
- 17:18Speaker 1: No, I know, but it's still a studio. It's a
- 17:21Speaker 1: big paycheck.
- 17:22Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm living in L.A.
- 17:23Speaker 1: It's the beginning.
- 17:24Speaker 2: You're living in L.A. I'm living in L.A. I moved
- 17:26Speaker 2: to L.A. I, like, fucking moved to L.A. I pack
- 17:29Speaker 2: everything up.
- 17:29Speaker 4: I mean, New York kid never been anywhere, so I
- 17:32Speaker 4: was like, oh, wow, resigned from my fucking job. Here
- 17:35Speaker 4: I am walking around Ventura Boulevard calling Pacific Bell.
- 17:38Speaker 2: I'm like, where the fuck am I going to live?
- 17:40Speaker 2: My agent's like, in the valley, baby, in the valley.
- 17:43Speaker 2: And I'm like living on Beverly Glen. Yeah, great. That's
- 17:47Speaker 2: a great, great little cross section. Yeah, and I have
- 17:49Speaker 2: a dog. Beverly Glen and Ventura? Yeah, I have a dog.
- 17:52Speaker 1: What year?
- 17:52Speaker 2: 93.
- 17:53Speaker 4: Are you kidding me?
- 17:57Speaker 2: Right before I met my wife on a plane.
- 17:58Speaker 1: The height of, that's like Heidi Fleiss, that early 90s
- 18:03Speaker 1: in LA.
- 18:04Speaker 4: Hit show, fucking earthquake, then hits. Hit show, I almost
- 18:09Speaker 4: got killed in the earthquake.
- 18:10Speaker 2: Yeah, it was crazy. Northwood Quake. All right, so we
- 18:13Speaker 2: had something in common. You've been interviewing me about.
- 18:16Speaker 4: My story from being a doorman to an actor. You
- 18:20Speaker 4: were a famous ranger, famous king, famous hot. We all
- 18:23Speaker 4: know that.
- 18:24Speaker 3: But now you've become an actor. Now you've segued. You've
- 18:28Speaker 3: moved in.
- 18:28Speaker 2: How did that happen? Specifically, you were in the Odyssey.
- 18:31Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 18:32Speaker 2: Which, by the way, I sat through. You did.
- 18:35Speaker 1: You banged it out.
- 18:36Speaker 2: It was good. Three hours. Yeah.
- 18:37Speaker 1: It's long.
- 18:38Speaker 2: It's long, yeah.
- 18:39Speaker 1: Right?
- 18:39Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, when we get older, it's different. Three hours. Yeah.
- 18:43Speaker 2: It better be good. Right. Better keep us in our seats. Absolutely.
- 18:48Speaker 2: Who were you in the movie?
- 18:50Speaker 1: I played Laudamus, one of Odysseus' guys.
- 18:54Speaker 2: You on the ship?
- 18:55Speaker 1: I'm on the ship.
- 18:56Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 18:57Speaker 1: You have to see it.
- 18:58Speaker 2: You know what's so funny? Yeah, I'm on the ship,
- 19:00Speaker 2: and we all look.
- 19:00Speaker 1: The exact same.
- 19:01Speaker 2: Right, because I'm... In the cave. Right. I throw a
- 19:05Speaker 2: rock at a cow. on Apollo's Island when we were
- 19:08Speaker 2: really hungry. How long were you there for?
- 19:11Speaker 1: Well, we were in Sicily. It took six months to shoot.
- 19:16Speaker 2: Six months? We had four breaks. Wow.
- 19:19Speaker 1: We had four breaks where we flew home, had three
- 19:23Speaker 1: weeks off, and then went back. Right. I mean, you
- 19:25Speaker 1: made movies.
- 19:26Speaker 2: You know how rare that is. So how did you
- 19:28Speaker 2: get into this Chris Nolan camp? Here's the funny thing.
- 19:32Speaker 2: When I was playing.
- 19:33Speaker 1: Good guy? Yeah, good guy. Yeah?
- 19:35Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 19:36Speaker 1: No, no bothersome bullshit. No, you know, undecided.
- 19:43Speaker 2: What are we doing here? Right.
- 19:46Speaker 1: Never dictates any sort of movement. Like, lets everything play
- 19:52Speaker 1: out naturally.
- 19:53Speaker 4: Right.
- 19:53Speaker 1: And if there's a minor tweak, like, hey, we got
- 19:55Speaker 1: too many guys over here. I need something. It's just, he's,
- 20:02Speaker 1: it's exactly how I think it should be.
- 20:04Speaker 5: Right.
- 20:04Speaker 2: Like a coach. Yeah. Like, how can a coach, you
- 20:08Speaker 2: can't draw out plays.
- 20:10Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. I mean, football has plays, I know, but the
- 20:13Speaker 1: natural athleticism.
- 20:15Speaker 2: Let them play the game.
- 20:16Speaker 1: Yeah. Feel a scene.
- 20:17Speaker 2: They're there for a reason.
- 20:18Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 20:19Speaker 2: And then when you need to tweak something, you tweak it.
- 20:22Speaker 1: Yes. So anyways, when I was still playing, I used
- 20:26Speaker 1: to joke and say, don't ever let me do Dancing
- 20:28Speaker 1: with the Stars. I retire two years later. They're like, ah,
- 20:32Speaker 1: it's $ 125, 000. I can go to L.A. for six weeks.
- 20:36Speaker 2: I go, ah, what the hell?
- 20:38Speaker 1: Right.
- 20:38Speaker 2: All right? If I get kicked off, I still get
- 20:40Speaker 2: the money. Right. And I still get to stay. It's
- 20:44Speaker 2: a win-win.
- 20:46Speaker 1: One of the producers, Valerie Papsadera, me and her hit
- 20:51Speaker 1: it off, and I'm fighting with everybody else, but she
- 20:53Speaker 1: was my go-to, you know? Ends up, her husband is
- 20:59Speaker 1: the biggest casting director in Hollywood, and after I did
- 21:03Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars, I went back to New York.
- 21:05Speaker 2: John Papsadera?
- 21:06Speaker 1: John Papsadera, yeah. Yeah.
- 21:08Speaker 2: Yeah. So that was the connection.
- 21:10Speaker 1: And then five years later, after I had been taking
- 21:13Speaker 1: classes and like trying to figure out how to do
- 21:15Speaker 1: this shit, I picked up the phone and called John
- 21:18Speaker 1: and said, you know, I want to, how do I
- 21:21Speaker 1: do it? Right. Give me something to chew on. And
- 21:24Speaker 1: then he started sending me auditions.
- 21:27Speaker 2: John?
- 21:28Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 21:28Speaker 2: The casting guy? Yeah. You didn't even have an agent.
- 21:31Speaker 2: I don't think in the beginning, no.
- 21:33Speaker 1: No?
- 21:34Speaker 2: So what was your first acting job?
- 21:35Speaker 1: Well, my buddy Pete Berg put me in a movie. Pete?
- 21:39Speaker 1: You know Pete.
- 21:40Speaker 2: Yeah, I know Pete. I knew him when he was
- 21:41Speaker 2: an actor.
- 21:42Speaker 1: Right. Chicago Hope. Chicago Hope? Yeah. Pete put me in
- 21:46Speaker 1: Patriot's Day.
- 21:48Speaker 2: Wohlberg?
- 21:49Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 21:50Speaker 2: What'd you do in that?
- 21:51Speaker 1: I gotta go, I'm one of the Watertown police officers
- 21:54Speaker 1: when the brothers are hiding in the boat. I'd never
- 21:58Speaker 1: been on a movie set. First of all, Pete put
- 22:00Speaker 1: me in a red warming coat. Everyone else's warming coats
- 22:03Speaker 1: are black. He put me in a red warming coat.
- 22:07Speaker 1: I looked like a giant cherry tomato. Okay.
- 22:11Speaker 2: Yeah. I got to run up to the wall.
- 22:15Speaker 1: And go, I think he's in the boat. Freeze.
- 22:20Speaker 2: That's your line.
- 22:21Speaker 1: And that's my line. And it was the most exhilarating experience.
- 22:26Speaker 2: Of my life. I mean, Oh, I think I remember that.
- 22:29Speaker 1: It's when they brothers are hiding in the backyard.
- 22:32Speaker 2: That's you. And I run up. I didn't have a
- 22:34Speaker 2: beard back then. I was young. Yeah.
- 22:36Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 22:36Speaker 2: Clean cut. Right.
- 22:37Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 22:37Speaker 1: It looked like a cop, like a Watertown, Boston cop.
- 22:40Speaker 2: Yeah. And he said... Irish kid, right?
- 22:44Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 22:45Speaker 2: But, you know, I don't talk like those guys.
- 22:47Speaker 4: No.
- 22:47Speaker 2: They got their own speech. Oh, they have their own language.
- 22:50Speaker 2: Who knows what they're saying. I know. So that was it.
- 22:54Speaker 1: And then two years later, Pete put me in his second,
- 22:59Speaker 1: another movie that he did called Mile 22, which had
- 23:01Speaker 1: Ronda Rousey in it and Wahlberg's in it again. Yeah.
- 23:06Speaker 1: And then I just, you know, that was kind of,
- 23:08Speaker 1: that gave me the juice to go and get an agent.
- 23:11Speaker 2: Right. And then that started kind of. You're getting serious
- 23:14Speaker 2: about it.
- 23:14Speaker 1: Yeah, now I can actually maybe do this.
- 23:16Speaker 2: Right.
- 23:17Speaker 4: When did you consider yourself, like, how long did it
- 23:21Speaker 4: take you to consider yourself to say, wow, I feel like.
- 23:24Speaker 2: After the Odyssey. I'm kind of like an actor now.
- 23:26Speaker 2: I feel like I've.
- 23:28Speaker 1: After the Odyssey.
- 23:29Speaker 3: After the Odyssey, like you've earned your stripes and you
- 23:31Speaker 3: feel like you've, like, arrived.
- 23:33Speaker 4: Like, that first couple of movies, after, like, Jungle Fever,
- 23:36Speaker 4: I was like, wow, I think I could do this.
- 23:38Speaker 1: Yeah, because.
- 23:40Speaker 2: I guess now.
- 23:42Speaker 1: I could have the confidence to walk on set and
- 23:45Speaker 1: make my own choice on something.
- 23:46Speaker 2: Right.
- 23:47Speaker 1: Whereas before, I'm sure your first couple of movies... Well,
- 23:51Speaker 1: you didn't know what I was doing. Yeah, I'm just like.
- 23:53Speaker 2: And I'm kind of there. Yeah. And you're just going
- 23:56Speaker 2: by instinct.
- 23:57Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 23:57Speaker 2: And you're watching other people going, wow, look how good that... Yes.
- 24:01Speaker 2: I said, we're in a scene with Denzel Watt, my
- 24:03Speaker 2: first movie, and I'm like, wow, this fucking guy is good.
- 24:06Speaker 2: I better act like I belong here and I don't suck.
- 24:09Speaker 1: Yes.
- 24:10Speaker 2: You know, because this guy's coming in correct.
- 24:12Speaker 1: Yes.
- 24:12Speaker 2: He's coming in like with blazing.
- 24:14Speaker 1: So sick.
- 24:15Speaker 2: And I'm like, wow.
- 24:16Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 24:17Speaker 4: I got to, you know, now you've got to raise
- 24:20Speaker 4: the level of what you're doing.
- 24:21Speaker 1: Yep.
- 24:22Speaker 2: To kind of hang in this even early NYPD Blue.
- 24:25Speaker 4: I saw all these people and I was like, these
- 24:27Speaker 4: were all polished, really.
- 24:29Speaker 1: You had killers.
- 24:30Speaker 2: They were a few years, but I was still pretty new.
- 24:32Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 24:32Speaker 2: So I was like a sponge. I was like, man,
- 24:34Speaker 2: these fucking guys are good.
- 24:36Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
- 24:36Speaker 2: So I got to kind of figure out who my
- 24:39Speaker 2: guy is.
- 24:39Speaker 1: Who's the tall Tony Smiths?
- 24:44Speaker 2: Jimmy Smiths?
- 24:45Speaker 1: Jimmy Smiths.
- 24:46Speaker 2: And before him, David Caruso, who was a little reddish guy.
- 24:49Speaker 2: Of course, I know Caruso.
- 24:51Speaker 1: Great. And the older... Dennis Franz, the Chicago guy. Wow.
- 24:55Speaker 2: What the fuck? Those fucking guys were... Murderers row. Fucking killers.
- 25:00Speaker 1: The TV actors nowadays couldn't hang with them.
- 25:03Speaker 2: No. No, these guys were... Those guys were... These guys
- 25:05Speaker 2: are like lightweights. Yeah. You know, like I know. I've
- 25:09Speaker 2: guest thought on things and I'm like, some of these guys,
- 25:11Speaker 2: I go like this. I literally go like this.
- 25:14Speaker 1: Yeah. You were in the dragon's den of TV.
- 25:17Speaker 2: I've been with fucking heavyweights.
- 25:18Speaker 1: Killers.
- 25:19Speaker 2: Those guys were killers. That's why I can go in
- 25:21Speaker 2: and people go.
- 25:22Speaker 4: Oh wow, and I'm like, I've worked with fucking great people.
- 25:25Speaker 4: I know what that feels like. So that's why when
- 25:29Speaker 4: I come in, I like to come in with like,
- 25:31Speaker 4: one time I was doing SVU and fucking Ice-T goes, man,
- 25:36Speaker 4: he's sitting in the side with one line. He's like,
- 25:38Speaker 4: yo man, you look like you could bring it. I
- 25:41Speaker 4: turned around, I love Ice-T, and I said, yeah, I
- 25:44Speaker 4: could bring it. I could fucking really bring it.
- 25:48Speaker 2: Okay? Well, it was Damon, man. Yeah, I mean, that's the...
- 25:57Speaker 2: He fucking brought it, right?
- 25:59Speaker 1: There was a moment where it was late, time was
- 26:05Speaker 1: not on our side, and he had a big one,
- 26:08Speaker 1: and he had three takes, and I saw him just
- 26:10Speaker 1: do one of those little... Adjustment. Just a little bit
- 26:13Speaker 1: in between each one.
- 26:14Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 26:15Speaker 1: And I was like, whoa. Whoa.
- 26:18Speaker 2: Whoa.
- 26:19Speaker 1: That's what this whole thing's about.
- 26:22Speaker 2: That's why he is who he is. Look at the
- 26:24Speaker 2: physical shape that he got into, right? Oh, no.
- 26:27Speaker 1: He was... He was insane.
- 26:28Speaker 2: I mean, at this... I don't even know if.
- 26:30Speaker 1: At my age, and I'm 10 years younger than him,
- 26:33Speaker 1: if I could get in that good of shape at
- 26:34Speaker 1: this point now. I mean, he was just.
- 26:37Speaker 4: And, you know, you're a different species because professional athletes.
- 26:41Speaker 2: A little bigger.
- 26:42Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm just saying professional athletes are different fucking birds.
- 26:46Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 26:46Speaker 2: They are. And not to mention, you know, hockey players.
- 26:49Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. Yeah. Well, I think hockey players are
- 26:51Speaker 1: the best rounded athletes.
- 26:54Speaker 2: They are, right?
- 26:55Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, we do what we do on skates.
- 26:58Speaker 2: On skates. It blows my mind.
- 27:00Speaker 1: And moving at the same time. Yeah. So baseball, you're
- 27:03Speaker 1: standing stationary.
- 27:04Speaker 2: Right. You got cleats on. You're on the ground.
- 27:07Speaker 1: We're going 60, 70 miles an hour on these tiny
- 27:11Speaker 1: little blades.
- 27:13Speaker 2: Plus, we're holding the stick. The puck, we got to
- 27:16Speaker 2: do it. And then.
- 27:17Speaker 1: In our sport, you're basically allowed to do whatever you want.
- 27:21Speaker 1: I mean, we can certainly fight, but you can hurt people.
- 27:25Speaker 2: Right. And you go much faster on skates. People don't realize.
- 27:30Speaker 1: Everyone's like football, the collisions. And football's fast, no question
- 27:36Speaker 1: about it. And the guys are big. But hockey, you're
- 27:39Speaker 1: like a moving car because when you step on the
- 27:42Speaker 1: ice and you're not moving, you're still moving. Everything is...
- 27:46Speaker 1: It's like when you put rollerblades on. All of a sudden,
- 27:49Speaker 1: you get this feeling like, holy shit. It's like being
- 27:51Speaker 1: on the escalator at the airport when you step on
- 27:54Speaker 1: the walking one and it pulls you forward. Skating, you're just...
- 27:58Speaker 1: So it's an incredible sport. I think it's the best
- 28:03Speaker 1: sport to watch live.
- 28:04Speaker 2: In person, I agree. For some reason, I wish television
- 28:09Speaker 2: doesn't capture... It's so fast. It just doesn't capture the.
- 28:14Speaker 1: You remember they did the light-up puck, though, remember?
- 28:17Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 28:17Speaker 1: Fox. And it just didn't catch on. It's... You have
- 28:24Speaker 1: to train your eye a little bit for it.
- 28:26Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 28:27Speaker 1: You know?
- 28:28Speaker 2: You do, right?
- 28:28Speaker 1: Tennis, it's easy. You just go, here we go.
- 28:31Speaker 2: You grew up on skates? Yeah, yeah. Like, in Canada?
- 28:34Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
- 28:34Speaker 2: About five years old?
- 28:35Speaker 1: Yeah, probably three.
- 28:37Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah.
- 28:38Speaker 1: We used to skate to school. The sidewalks would freeze.
- 28:40Speaker 2: So it's like, that's a norm, right?
- 28:42Speaker 1: Totally normal, yeah. All the girls could skate. Our class
- 28:46Speaker 1: trips would be to the skating rink.
- 28:48Speaker 2: Yeah. It's part of the culture.
- 28:49Speaker 4: Going back to the Odyssey, this was the first feature
- 28:53Speaker 4: that was filmed on the.
- 28:55Speaker 2: Fully.
- 28:56Speaker 1: What?
- 28:56Speaker 2: Fully.
- 28:57Speaker 4: Fully filmed on IMAX 70.
- 29:01Speaker 2: Did that feel any different or it didn't matter to
- 29:03Speaker 2: you what they were filming?
- 29:03Speaker 1: No, you know what I learned? What? Now I understand
- 29:07Speaker 1: what being soft means. Soft? Like, I understand focus and
- 29:15Speaker 1: depth perception now.
- 29:17Speaker 2: Okay.
- 29:18Speaker 1: And, like, the language of the lens and whether they're
- 29:23Speaker 1: shooting on something and we're just going to be an
- 29:25Speaker 1: object in the background or this time, like, we're close
- 29:28Speaker 1: enough and, you know, because it changes everything.
- 29:31Speaker 2: Right.
- 29:32Speaker 1: So I didn't know what being out of focus meant. Yeah.
- 29:36Speaker 2: I didn't know, like, what do you mean? I'm standing
- 29:38Speaker 2: a foot behind him. It's so specific.
- 29:40Speaker 1: You don't see my face, but you can see, like,
- 29:44Speaker 1: my body moving. I didn't understand any of that. So
- 29:48Speaker 1: now I always, I like being soft until I don't
- 29:52Speaker 1: need to be. It's like a metaphor for life.
- 29:56Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
- 29:57Speaker 1: Right?
- 29:58Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 29:58Speaker 1: But why the fuck... I'm not going to chew the
- 30:00Speaker 1: scenery up. Like, I'm a shape back there. I know
- 30:04Speaker 1: what the purpose is right here. And then at some point,
- 30:07Speaker 1: then you get to come in and do your thing.
- 30:10Speaker 1: Everybody's so... They want to chase the fucking camera.
- 30:13Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 30:14Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you don't want to mug it,
- 30:16Speaker 3: but you.
- 30:16Speaker 2: Want to be present. Right.
- 30:18Speaker 1: Right.
- 30:18Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Yeah. What was the Trojan
- 30:21Speaker 2: horse like?
- 30:22Speaker 1: Terrible. Terrible.
- 30:23Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 30:23Speaker 1: Shit. Piss.
- 30:24Speaker 2: Piss.
- 30:26Speaker 1: Yeah, it was pretty much real.
- 30:28Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 30:28Speaker 1: I mean, we were covered. You know when they cover
- 30:30Speaker 1: you with fucking mud. Right. And it's freezing. Morocco is
- 30:34Speaker 1: not a warm place. People think Morocco is hot. It's
- 30:36Speaker 1: hot certain times, but at night it is freezing cold there.
- 30:41Speaker 2: Man.
- 30:42Speaker 1: Freezing cold. It's like the desert. Right. We were up
- 30:45Speaker 1: in Wazizat where they filmed Lawrence of Arabia.
- 30:49Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
- 30:50Speaker 1: You would not like Morocco.
- 30:51Speaker 2: No, huh?
- 30:52Speaker 1: No, no, no. Yeah. There's nothing there for you. Unless
- 30:56Speaker 1: you're getting paid.
- 30:57Speaker 2: Yeah. But you never know. I'd have to be getting paid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Otherwise,
- 31:02Speaker 2: I'd be miserable.
- 31:03Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
- 31:04Speaker 2: I get depressed easy.
- 31:05Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Well. I don't know.
- 31:07Speaker 4: Those kind of places. I mean, did you have your
- 31:10Speaker 4: family with you? Anybody with you?
- 31:12Speaker 1: Just the guys.
- 31:13Speaker 2: That's it? But. You're married, right? Yeah. Where was your wife?
- 31:18Speaker 1: They were here.
- 31:19Speaker 2: Oh.
- 31:19Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. What the fuck? Why does somebody, nobody wants
- 31:23Speaker 1: to go to Morocco.
- 31:24Speaker 2: Yeah, what are they going to do there?
- 31:25Speaker 1: Stand around.
- 31:26Speaker 2: Right.
- 31:27Speaker 1: It's not like we get days off.
- 31:28Speaker 2: No.
- 31:29Speaker 1: I think we got a couple of days off.
- 31:31Speaker 2: And then what do you do?
- 31:32Speaker 1: Nothing.
- 31:32Speaker 2: There's nowhere to go.
- 31:33Speaker 1: You go to a, all they do is they drink
- 31:37Speaker 1: sugar tea and watch soccer on patios.
- 31:40Speaker 2: Oh, man.
- 31:41Speaker 1: And smoke.
- 31:42Speaker 2: That's it? Marlboros. Heavy. How long were you in Morocco?
- 31:48Speaker 1: I think we were there seven weeks. Two different locations.
- 31:52Speaker 2: That must have felt like eternity, huh? Over there, yeah. Yeah.
- 31:56Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 31:56Speaker 2: I mean, it's heavy over there.
- 31:57Speaker 1: Call to prayers. There's, you know, it's a different world.
- 32:01Speaker 1: It's too hot during the day. They all come out
- 32:04Speaker 1: at night. The shops open at night. It's a wild place.
- 32:07Speaker 4: Even though it's a big Hollywood movie, I heard the
- 32:12Speaker 4: feeling was like, you know, nothing was glamorous. And it
- 32:15Speaker 4: felt like almost an indie. Did it have that kind
- 32:19Speaker 4: of feel? Or was it like you were not in
- 32:21Speaker 4: a big Hollywood movie?
- 32:22Speaker 1: Yeah, no, absolutely. I mean, I think locations were so
- 32:26Speaker 1: remote in some places, there weren't even hotels. Yeah. So
- 32:30Speaker 1: in Iceland, we stayed in Winnebago's, which was incredible.
- 32:33Speaker 2: You guys were in Winnebago's?
- 32:34Speaker 1: Yeah. Imagine a movie that big. We were in Winnebago's.
- 32:39Speaker 1: And it was so much fun.
- 32:41Speaker 2: Was it?
- 32:41Speaker 1: Oh, it was so much fun. Not only Winnebago's, You
- 32:45Speaker 1: showered at the local, we were in a park. So
- 32:50Speaker 1: people camping in the park, we would go and shower
- 32:53Speaker 1: and there would just be like regular people in the
- 32:55Speaker 1: communal showers.
- 32:56Speaker 2: Yeah. Ooh. I can't do that. I was doing a
- 33:02Speaker 2: long show and all these guys were trying to get
- 33:04Speaker 2: me in the shower.
- 33:04Speaker 1: I said, come on, Nicky, come on.
- 33:06Speaker 2: I said, no, no, no, no.
- 33:08Speaker 4: I won't be showering with all you guys. I got
- 33:11Speaker 4: to keep some of my ego. These guys will be
- 33:13Speaker 4: having conversations, you know.
- 33:15Speaker 1: I was showering with the grips the first time I
- 33:17Speaker 1: ever met a grip. I'm standing beside him showering. You were?
- 33:20Speaker 2: He goes, hey, nice job out there. You're okay, huh? Yeah,
- 33:23Speaker 2: you're okay, huh?
- 33:24Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, you're a professional hockey player. It's
- 33:28Speaker 4: okay for you to shower.
- 33:31Speaker 2: That's too personal for me.
- 33:32Speaker 1: You're right, you're right.
- 33:33Speaker 2: We grew up totally normal.
- 33:35Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 33:36Speaker 2: Some people, it's traumatizing. I know.
- 33:39Speaker 1: They would shower in the Winnebago and then they'd run
- 33:41Speaker 1: out of water and they couldn't flush their toilets.
- 33:44Speaker 2: See, I said, fuck that. Yeah.
- 33:46Speaker 1: I'll take a toilet over a shower. Shower's right there.
- 33:49Speaker 1: I just need a toilet.
- 33:50Speaker 2: Yeah. You got it. You know, on the ground. Yeah.
- 33:54Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 33:54Speaker 2: Not like those fucking in the campus.
- 33:56Speaker 1: Those are.
- 33:57Speaker 2: No. I hate shitting in those things. No. You want
- 33:59Speaker 2: to get on some hard surface. I need a hard surface.
- 34:02Speaker 2: Feet on the ground.
- 34:03Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 34:04Speaker 2: That's your grounding. That's my grounding. Yeah.
- 34:07Speaker 4: Even though we're, you know, having the bar pie, the
- 34:10Speaker 4: whole Prince Street connection.
- 34:11Speaker 2: Like, I know my connection. How did you find it?
- 34:14Speaker 1: So Lawrence Longo of Prince Street Pizza fame. Lawrence and
- 34:20Speaker 1: I played hockey against each other when we were young kids, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12.
- 34:27Speaker 1: And we've been friends for, I don't know, 30 years now.
- 34:32Speaker 1: I'm the one that introduced him to Frank. Frank is
- 34:36Speaker 1: the original founder of Prince Street, the first location in
- 34:39Speaker 1: New York, which you guys know, Mulberry Street. Right in
- 34:43Speaker 1: the village, Soho, whatever you call it now.
- 34:47Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 34:47Speaker 1: The reason I know Frank is I got into a fight.
- 34:50Speaker 1: I fought three guys in front of Prince Street Pizza,
- 34:52Speaker 1: the original location in New York.
- 34:54Speaker 2: I think I heard that.
- 34:55Speaker 1: And Frank and Dom were at the shop that night,
- 35:00Speaker 1: and they saw the fight going on. And I don't
- 35:03Speaker 1: know if it was after the fight or maybe a
- 35:05Speaker 1: couple days later, because I lived in Soho. I lived
- 35:07Speaker 1: at Mercer, and I lived at.
- 35:13Speaker 1: Fucking Grand and Mercer, sorry, for a long time, 10 years.
- 35:17Speaker 1: So I was in the neighborhood. They go, holy shit, man,
- 35:21Speaker 1: what the fuck? That fight was wild. You fought three
- 35:25Speaker 1: guys and then we became friends and then I wouldn't
- 35:27Speaker 1: have to wait in line because the lines were crazy
- 35:30Speaker 1: back then at Prince Street. I'm sure they still are. Anyways,
- 35:33Speaker 1: a couple years later, I go, Lawrence Longo, you should
- 35:38Speaker 1: meet Frank and they've just run away with this incredible partnership.
- 35:44Speaker 1: Now the bar pies, which I don't even think they're
- 35:48Speaker 1: selling outside of this bar, which is a separate business,
- 35:52Speaker 1: but under the umbrella, what's this place called?
- 35:54Speaker 2: The Bar Next Store. Yeah. All right.
- 35:56Speaker 1: This is in LA. We're in LA. We're on the
- 35:59Speaker 1: Sunset Strip. What's the address? 9159 Sunset Boulevard. They got
- 36:04Speaker 1: these bar pies. I watched the Dave Portnoy pizza reviews.
- 36:09Speaker 1: I've never had a bar pie from Massachusetts or This
- 36:14Speaker 1: is my favorite bar pie I've ever had. This is
- 36:16Speaker 1: a vodka fucking bar pie pizza.
- 36:19Speaker 2: It's great, right? Fabulous. The burnt, crispy edges.
- 36:23Speaker 1: I mean, we're eating these on our own.
- 36:25Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this is like, you know, the more
- 36:27Speaker 3: you eat it, the more you want it.
- 36:29Speaker 2: It's addicting.
- 36:30Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 36:30Speaker 2: And you're right. I mean, this Portnoy guy, he should
- 36:33Speaker 2: review this thing.
- 36:34Speaker 1: He should come and do a review on these.
- 36:35Speaker 3: He's one of these big bar pie guy experts, so.
- 36:38Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 36:39Speaker 2: Dave... Are you taking a shot at him? No, I'm not.
- 36:41Speaker 2: I'm just saying. Dave Portnoy, come review the bar pie.
- 36:46Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
- 36:47Speaker 2: This is right up your alley.
- 36:48Speaker 1: You guys would get along, I think.
- 36:50Speaker 2: No, we'd be all right. Well, you're a fucking OG
- 36:53Speaker 2: New Yorker.
- 36:53Speaker 1: I'm OG New York.
- 36:54Speaker 2: He's a Boston guy.
- 36:55Speaker 1: People should, they sort of should kiss the ring. If
- 36:59Speaker 1: you have any nostalgia or life inside of you, and
- 37:04Speaker 1: we're talking about that story earlier.
- 37:06Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 37:06Speaker 1: You're working at that hotel, the St. Moritz, in the 80s.
- 37:10Speaker 1: And then you book a fucking TV show.
- 37:13Speaker 2: Like, you're one of the OGs. Thank you. Yeah?
- 37:16Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 37:17Speaker 2: I've earned my stripes.
- 37:18Speaker 1: You're right.
- 37:19Speaker 2: You're right.
- 37:20Speaker 1: You go back, they still yell your name on the corners?
- 37:22Speaker 2: Absolutely. They love me there.
- 37:27Speaker 4: Since this is delivering happiness, Sean, what makes you happy, buddy?
- 37:31Speaker 4: What brings you happiness?
- 37:33Speaker 2: Sean Avery.
- 37:34Speaker 1: You know what?
- 37:34Speaker 2: When you wake up, like, what is it? Now, as
- 37:38Speaker 2: I get older? Yeah.
- 37:40Speaker 1: I get really excited about people around me succeeding. Because
- 37:46Speaker 1: I understand the more that they succeed, then I flourish.
- 37:52Speaker 2: Right.
- 37:54Speaker 1: Lawrence is going to send me a check for a
- 37:56Speaker 1: million dollars one day once he sells Prince Street Pizza.
- 38:00Speaker 2: Wow. Why would I root against anyone?
- 38:02Speaker 4: Right.
- 38:02Speaker 1: I want all my friends to do well. To do good.
- 38:04Speaker 1: So I can pick up the.
- 38:05Speaker 2: Phone and go, yo, you're doing that fucking movie? Right.
- 38:09Speaker 2: You're in New Mexico. You got anything for me? Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 38:13Speaker 2: There's a couple days.
- 38:14Speaker 1: Let's go.
- 38:15Speaker 2: That's what I want. Right.
- 38:16Speaker 6: That's what makes me happy. See that? That's a good guy.
- 38:21Speaker 6: That's a guy that's like, you know, he's not a hater.
- 38:24Speaker 6: He's rooting for people. because it puts him over more.
- 38:27Speaker 6: I feel the same way.
- 38:28Speaker 2: But a lot of people are not like that. A
- 38:30Speaker 2: lot of people, you know, you get a lot of.
- 38:31Speaker 4: People that like, you know, they're always like hating on
- 38:34Speaker 4: you or hating on your success.
- 38:35Speaker 2: And I'm like, why?
- 38:37Speaker 4: When I was doing good, I fucking shared it with
- 38:39Speaker 4: all you motherfuckers.
- 38:41Speaker 2: I did. I wanted to.
- 38:43Speaker 4: Share my happiness and my success with you in one
- 38:46Speaker 4: way or another.
- 38:47Speaker 2: Not everybody does that. Yeah.
- 38:49Speaker 1: No, they don't.
- 38:49Speaker 2: Not everybody does that. Or, you know, you'd be happy
- 38:52Speaker 2: for people.
- 38:53Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 38:53Speaker 2: But, you know, sometimes that makes you a little angry
- 38:55Speaker 2: when people are like that. Well, I think it's the process. Yeah.
- 38:58Speaker 3: But you've got to weed those people out.
- 39:01Speaker 2: Because you know the people that are truly happy. You should.
- 39:03Speaker 2: You could count them on your finger.
- 39:06Speaker 1: Absolutely.
- 39:07Speaker 2: Absolutely.
- 39:08Speaker 1: I auditioned for NCIS LA today. why aren't you on
- 39:13Speaker 1: one of these fucking NCIS shows? Like just bossing people
- 39:16Speaker 1: around in a cage somewhere.
- 39:18Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
- 39:19Speaker 1: I know.
- 39:20Speaker 2: You know what it is.
- 39:21Speaker 1: You get that old head in there and you go,
- 39:23Speaker 1: just let Nicky fucking boss everyone around and he's the
- 39:27Speaker 1: grumpy guy that they got to check in before the operation.
- 39:29Speaker 2: Exactly. Exactly.
- 39:31Speaker 4: If anything, I've been underused on a certain level because
- 39:35Speaker 4: some of these people, I could wax them. But they
- 39:40Speaker 4: hire a lot of generic kind of people. And I
- 39:43Speaker 4: think mediocrity gets... Like, mediocrity gets celebrated. Like, one time
- 39:48Speaker 4: I was reoccurring on this cop show that was very popular,
- 39:52Speaker 4: and people were like, your character's fantastic on this.
- 39:54Speaker 2: Blue Bloods show.
- 39:55Speaker 5: And people were like, one guy goes to me, I
- 39:58Speaker 5: think you're almost too, you're not trying to be too good,
- 40:02Speaker 5: but the guy goes to me, you're almost outshining other people.
- 40:06Speaker 2: And I'm like, I'm not here to outshine you. I'm
- 40:08Speaker 2: here to just contribute to make the show better. I'm
- 40:11Speaker 2: not here to be funnier than you. If I am,
- 40:13Speaker 2: you know what one guy said to me? He goes,
- 40:15Speaker 2: You know what? He goes, you're funny. I go, yeah, thanks.
- 40:20Speaker 2: And he goes, no.
- 40:21Speaker 4: He goes, I know you're laughing. And he goes, no,
- 40:24Speaker 4: I was eating food on the show a lot. I
- 40:26Speaker 4: was making a lot of things funny that weren't funny, but.
- 40:28Speaker 2: In a real way. Not in like, you know, like
- 40:31Speaker 2: in a real way. In the ground. And he goes, no, no, no,
- 40:34Speaker 2: I'm paying you a call. He goes, because you're making
- 40:35Speaker 2: things that are not funny, funny. I go, well, isn't
- 40:39Speaker 2: that good? What the fuck is wrong with you? Isn't
- 40:42Speaker 2: that good? And what did he say?
- 40:45Speaker 4: Yeah, he goes, you're a really talented actor. And I
- 40:49Speaker 4: was like, yeah, but did I get celebrated for it?
- 40:51Speaker 4: I get kicked to the side because like, whoa, you know,
- 40:54Speaker 4: it's like, I just don't understand it.
- 40:57Speaker 2: I don't understand that.
- 40:58Speaker 1: It all comes in cycles.
- 40:59Speaker 2: I know, but you know what?
- 41:00Speaker 1: I want to see you in a pit bossing somebody around,
- 41:03Speaker 1: you know, going.
- 41:04Speaker 2: Listen, it ain't over yet. And I still got, I
- 41:07Speaker 2: got still more in the tank. Lots of juice left. Yeah.
- 41:09Speaker 2: Lots of juice.
- 41:10Speaker 3: But I'm saying sometimes being good sometimes doesn't.
- 41:13Speaker 2: Always work in your favor.
- 41:14Speaker 4: You see people that are like, they work for years,
- 41:17Speaker 4: and they're like, they're not that memorable.
- 41:18Speaker 2: I'm not hating on them, but I'm just like, who's that?
- 41:21Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 41:22Speaker 2: I wouldn't know who that is.
- 41:23Speaker 1: Nobody wants to live. We don't want to live like that.
- 41:25Speaker 2: No. I want to be fucking remembered. Yeah. I want
- 41:29Speaker 2: to be remembered. The worst thing is like unmemorable.
- 41:33Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 41:34Speaker 2: You're not memorable. Yeah. I don't want to be that. Yeah, yeah.
- 41:37Speaker 2: If that ever happens, put me in a fucking box.
- 41:40Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 41:40Speaker 2: You know what I mean? That ain't going to happen.
- 41:42Speaker 1: Out in the marshland of Queens.
- 41:44Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 41:45Speaker 1: Right?
- 41:46Speaker 2: I'm in the swamps over there.
- 41:47Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 41:48Speaker 2: 147th in Brookville. 147th in Brookville. Sean Avery. Ladies and gentlemen,
- 41:54Speaker 2: it's a good man.