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- 0:00Hello and welcome back to Hydroponics Daily, your go-to podcast for everything soilless cultivation.
- 0:06I'm your host, Dr Russell Sharp, the founder of Utrema Ltd.
- 0:09At Utrema, we manufacture interesting fertilisers, novel biostimulants and organic
- 0:14biopesticides, so check them out on utrema.co.uk.
- 0:18Today I wanted to talk about another crop that I think could make a tremendous crop for a start-up.
- 0:25So a small to medium-sized hydroponic company,
- 0:29whether that's in a greenhouse but probably more in a
- 0:31grow room this would be particularly suited to
- 0:34somebody or a company that was looking to diversify away
- 0:38from growing legal cannabis because this crop requires
- 0:41a lot of height and so
- 0:44it's not one for a vertical farm it's cardoon if
- 0:49you've ever come across cardoon it is like a giant
- 0:52thistle and has massive
- 0:55leaves and produces big massive thistle spikes
- 0:58like globe artichoke however unlike
- 1:01globe globe artichoke you don't have to go to through
- 1:05to flowering you only have
- 1:08to produce the young vegetative stems because
- 1:11that's what is consumed when it comes to cardoon so it's
- 1:14related to globe artichoke in fact is in the same species
- 1:18as globe artichoke however it's a different variety
- 1:21so cardoon they're both in the
- 1:24sayonara sayonara sounds japanese
- 1:28isn't it cardoonuculus and so
- 1:32i think it's better than globe artichoke as a crop
- 1:35and the reason i say that is because potentially it's a really good one that
- 1:41a small hydroponic company could pitch to mitchellin star restaurants high-end
- 1:48restaurants And that's because cardoon is used in a number of different dishes.
- 1:54High-end dishes, but particularly in Lyonnais cuisine. So...
- 1:59Food that comes from the city of Lyon, the gastronomic capital of France.
- 2:04Cardou Lyonnaise refers to a dish where the stalks of cardou,
- 2:08the petioles, the leaf stalks, rather than the stem, not really a stem,
- 2:14are cooked often with gratin or a similar fashion.
- 2:17It's a speciality of the Lyon region.
- 2:20So you're going to get Michelin star chefs who have been trained in Lyon,
- 2:25who will recognize this plant and crucially
- 2:28it's not available commercially apart from
- 2:31in France so if you're outside of France
- 2:34you can you could grow cardoon now if
- 2:37you're growing this elsewhere and you think that's different then
- 2:40let me know but the beauty of this is that because you'd be growing it in a
- 2:44grower room you could have multiple plants you could have them growing at different
- 2:48points and you could have fresh cardoon stalks throughout the year and whereas
- 2:56normally it's a plant that grows.
- 3:00Grows really fast in the spring in the late autumn spring
- 3:03and then dies off early summer
- 3:06once it's flowered and then goes completely under the
- 3:09ground and so you're probably only going
- 3:12to get fresh cardoon in late autumn
- 3:15through the winter into spring and so i've had cardoon in my front garden for
- 3:21about 10 years now it's a fantastic plant grows ridiculously fast so So simply
- 3:30the biomass you can produce is crazy.
- 3:33So I think it'd be a fantastic one for hydroponics because you could even,
- 3:35you know, hydroponics even double the growth rates.
- 3:38It doesn't suffer too many pests and disease, a bit of aphids,
- 3:42some thrips when it gets to flowering.
- 3:44But with cardoon, you don't even need to get it with hydroponics for this use.
- 3:48You don't even need to allow it to flower necessarily.
- 3:51So that saves you a lot of hassle, saves you the thrip issue,
- 3:55and you can divert resources through to
- 3:59stalk production leaf production produces these
- 4:02absolutely gigantic leaves produces a very thick rhizome in the ground that
- 4:07can be used for propagation you just chop that up and you get loads of new plants
- 4:12so you don't even need to buy the seeds you can just get a mature plant dig
- 4:17it up and chop up the rhizomes,
- 4:20I've actually got rid of my cardoon, but, well, I'm trying to get rid of it.
- 4:24I've chopped it up, buried it in the ground amongst the other plants that I've
- 4:27been planting, and it's reappearing.
- 4:30It wants to regrow that fast. So I'm currently dealing with trying to kill cardoon at the moment.
- 4:36So yeah, it's a good crop. If you specialized in cardoon, you could even branch
- 4:43out into globe artichokes once you got all the system sorted.
- 4:46Got the nutrition dialed in, things like this.
- 4:48You could also sell the plants for ornamental use to
- 4:51garden centers and things like this and it's used
- 4:54it's actually part of it the plant is used in in cheese
- 4:57production for production of rennets and enzymes however that's
- 5:01a very niche use it's consumed in the
- 5:04cuisine of southern italy as well so sicily so if
- 5:07you've got any sicilian neighborhoods diaspora
- 5:11around you perhaps in new york then but
- 5:14then this could be a potentially a good crop to grow so i
- 5:18think it suits those sorts of grow rooms where legal cannabis or
- 5:21even illegal cannabis is grown a good
- 5:24diversification away from that if the cannabis industry in
- 5:27your area has gone through the floor then prices
- 5:30have dropped then cardoon would be a fantastic one
- 5:33and obviously if it's michelin star restaurants then they will pay a
- 5:36high price for authentic fresh cardoon.
- 5:40An interesting one there for you a startup idea if it
- 5:43comes to anything you make millions from this then remember who told you
- 5:46about car dude in the first place it was dr russell sharp of
- 5:49utreema.co.uk and the least you could do for
- 5:52me sharing this amazing business idea with you is that
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- 6:04out utreema.co.uk because we have amazing fertilizers that can be used for hydroponics
- 6:09it can be used for growing cardoon we have biostimulants to make that cardoon
- 6:14grow even faster and if you do get thrips or aphids or any other pesto disease.
- 6:19On your cardoon then we do biopesticides as well we manufacture them in-house ourselves,
- 6:24But I have never had a disease on my car dunes in 10 years of growing them.
- 6:29And the one pest I do get a lot of is snails. Not slugs, snails.
- 6:35And my solution for that, as well as slugger, which we sell at Eutrema,
- 6:39is just to pick them up and throw them into the road for the cars.
- 6:43I'll crush them under my feet.
- 6:45Sounds cruel, but mollusks can feel pain.
- 6:49They're one of the few pests that can feel pain. Because they're mollusks.
- 6:52They contain opioid receptors.
- 6:54So you have to kill them quickly if you're going to kill them.
- 6:56You can't let them suffer.
- 6:58A bit of a tangent there. Before I get into more controversial areas, I will leave it at that.
- 7:03Thank you very much for listening to Hydroponics Daily, and I will see you again tomorrow.