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Patriots Unfiltered 5/23: Biggest Roster Battles, OTA Preview, Around the NFL · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 2: All Right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here
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  Speaker 2: at Jillette Stadium, and we're recovering from Taylor Swift. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: like the chatter in the office yesterday was remarkable. I
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  Speaker 4: And you know, Saturday night literally Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So we're we're getting through that. But we're back
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  Speaker 2: to OTAs and the Patriots and getting ready for some football.
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  Speaker 3: NFL rules.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well rule, we'll talk about that. Yeah. One I
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  Speaker 2: need clarification on is the touchback rule, Like what's going
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  Speaker 2: on now? You can fair catch a kickoff in bounds?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure Evans Mike is on.
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  Speaker 3: So if you're in the end zone, or you're inside
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  Speaker 3: the twenty five and you choose to fair catch it
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  Speaker 3: on a kickoff, you'll get the ball at the twenty five.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, if you're at the ten yard line
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  Speaker 3: as a kickoff or turner, and you know.
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  Speaker 2: How do we feel about that?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, different college went to it, I think in twenty eighteen,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, Evan said it off air. We were
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  Speaker 4: talking about it upstairs and I couldn't agree more. It
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  Speaker 4: hasn't really affected the way I watched the game in
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  Speaker 4: any way, shape or form, Like you just.
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  Speaker 3: Get used to it.
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  Speaker 4: Oh wait, wait, he's fair catching it on the eight
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  Speaker 4: yard line. Oh no, that's right, that's the new rule, right.
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  Speaker 4: I think they're trying their best to eliminate those collisions.
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  Speaker 2: Why don't they just eliminate the kickoff? That's what they
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  Speaker 2: want to do.
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  Speaker 3: It does seem like they're head in that direction. I
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  Speaker 3: just I mean, I'm just curious. How does the kickoff
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  Speaker 3: or term make a decision like that? You know, whether
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  Speaker 3: or not while the balls in the air, do you
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  Speaker 3: How do you know? Is it just strictly the game situation, Like, look,
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  Speaker 3: we just we need a return here and I have
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  Speaker 3: to try to make a play otherwise you pretty much
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  Speaker 3: just kind of take the fair catch, right, How do
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  Speaker 3: you know, how can you tell when the ball's in
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  Speaker 3: the air if we have a favorable.
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  Speaker 4: I just think if it's one of those, if it's
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  Speaker 4: if it's a high kick in any way, it's like
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  Speaker 4: a punt. Still all of Evans line from off their
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  Speaker 4: go ahead Evan, you could no doubt that Mic is working.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not the first one to say any of these things. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's like a punt. I assume like, if you see
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  Speaker 5: that the coverage is coming down and you're probably not
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  Speaker 5: going to get much of anything, then you do you
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  Speaker 5: fair catch it and get it at the twenty five
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  Speaker 5: for the Patriots. I think it's it's really interesting about
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  Speaker 5: just the whole you know, investing so much into special teams,
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  Speaker 5: especially this offseason they've gone all in on personnel changes
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  Speaker 5: on special teams, and you wonder if some of these
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  Speaker 5: coverage guys like how much more of their job is
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  Speaker 5: getting taken away? And I think that's why there's a
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  Speaker 5: lot of pushback within the league by special teams coaches
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  Speaker 5: and special teams players, is because well, you're taking away
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  Speaker 5: a play that's an impact play for us in this face.
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  Speaker 5: At what point are we just not going to have
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  Speaker 5: special teams and we're just going to be kicking field
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  Speaker 5: goals and extra points and that's it. And I think
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  Speaker 5: that that's why a lot of them are against it
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  Speaker 5: was because it takes another away, another part of the game.
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  Speaker 5: That's they're part of the game.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's their jobs, right, and listen, I do think
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  Speaker 4: you know, unfortunately, the Patriots found this out the hard
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  Speaker 4: way last year. I mean, kickoff returns still played a
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  Speaker 4: role in games. So I understand that they don't want
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  Speaker 4: to entirely do away with the kickoff. But I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I guess that they're somehow trying to portray it's about
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  Speaker 4: player safety while implementing other rule changes about flexing Thursday
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  Speaker 4: night games and allowing teams to play multiple times on
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  Speaker 4: short rout.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good point, I mean this whole third, Like
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  Speaker 2: I get. Okay, so they're going to require twenty eight
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  Speaker 2: days notice, which is reasonable, but still it's hard if
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  Speaker 2: you've made playing reservations and booked a hotel, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you have to undo you know whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Fans, Yeah, fans, it's ridiculous, but they've never cared about Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Even with twenty eight days. But to me, the Thursday
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  Speaker 2: night game says we don't respect what it takes to
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  Speaker 2: play football. And in my opinion, you have to have
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  Speaker 2: a week between games. You can have a short week
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  Speaker 2: in to play tackle football. It's just it doesn't respect
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  Speaker 2: the game. It doesn't respect what it takes to play
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  Speaker 2: the game, and it doesn't respect the players. And that's
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  Speaker 2: the bottom line with Thursday night football. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's all reasonable about, you know, if you
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  Speaker 3: want to have to talk about should they even have
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  Speaker 3: Thursday night football? But I mean, for me, for this rule,
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  Speaker 3: I like it. I just I mean it's the end
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  Speaker 3: of the season. It's when the games count, when you
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  Speaker 3: really well.
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  Speaker 2: You can't complain about Thursday night doesn't get any good
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  Speaker 2: good games and then oh they can't flex, but you
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't have Thursday night game. Yeah, that's the problem.
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  Speaker 3: The bigger point. I just thought everybody was so quick
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  Speaker 3: to complain before the twenty eight day rule was kind
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  Speaker 3: of it was clarified, and I think it was the
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  Speaker 3: owner of the Raiders, Mark Davis, saying like, oh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: people are gonna be coming in from La and San Diego,
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  Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden they're gonna get like,
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  Speaker 3: that's not how it's gonna work. You'll have time. And
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  Speaker 3: I understand the point you made. Fred of people make plans, flights, hotels, those.
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  Speaker 4: Like like that to me as a fan, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: I'm far removed from those days, but I did that
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  Speaker 4: before I started working here. I used to go to
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  Speaker 4: a road game every year, and absolutely a Vegas game
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  Speaker 4: would have been on my docket, Like if that's a
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  Speaker 4: Sunday game, and I'm I mean, I have my flight,
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  Speaker 4: but I'm not, you know, necessarily going for the whole week. Right,
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  Speaker 4: so even if it's a month before now, I have
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  Speaker 4: to change my range.
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  Speaker 3: Who I don't want to do that.
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  Speaker 4: But if that's my plan, Mike, then that's fine. If
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  Speaker 4: I'm already there, but I'm talking about flying in our
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  Speaker 4: Friday or a Saturday. Now we have to take extra
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  Speaker 4: days off of work.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean a lot of people plan these things out,
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  Speaker 5: and I know reporters plan out their trips. When they
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  Speaker 5: get that schedule, they all go and start booking flights
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  Speaker 5: and things like that for the road games. And now
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  Speaker 5: you do you have these it's.
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  Speaker 4: The twenty eight days thing doesn't do really any good
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  Speaker 4: at all for fans. Now for the players, that gives
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  Speaker 4: them a little time at least you know it's coming.
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  Speaker 4: I understand. I think that was a concession for the players.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think that there's any juice though for the
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  Speaker 3: players of now that this game is going to be,
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  Speaker 3: you know, supposedly more of a Marquee matchup. We're trying
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  Speaker 3: to make these to be big games down the stretch, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I know, guys talk about, hey, we're playing on Monday
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  Speaker 3: night football. It's a big deal. Short rest.
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  Speaker 4: You've been in the locker room mic, right, four or
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  Speaker 4: five years now, when was the last time you heard
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  Speaker 4: anything positive about a Thursday night game from a player?
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  Speaker 2: But it gets even more complicated because isn't there a
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  Speaker 2: rule that after Thursday night game you have to have
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  Speaker 2: that buy? So now if all of a sudden, no,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you have have many by I mean.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you don't play Thursday Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: Right, But now if you're you know, it can really
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  Speaker 2: screw up a schedule. Now, all of a sudden, you
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  Speaker 2: didn't have that Thursday game, Now you put the Thursday
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  Speaker 2: game in. I guess you just you just moving.
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  Speaker 4: You're still Sundays.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the same.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know, it's a short week that
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  Speaker 2: you didn't think you were gonna have. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't like it.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't like to me for the four was it
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  Speaker 4: four or five weeks? Was it thirteen?
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  Speaker 3: Like thirteen to seventeen?
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  Speaker 4: So five weeks of better matchups on Thursday night to
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  Speaker 4: me is not worth all that. So that goes along
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  Speaker 4: with it. But I'm sure they'll make it.
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  Speaker 2: But it just tells me that the people that are
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  Speaker 2: thinking about Thursday and night don't understand what it takes
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  Speaker 2: to play football, what it does to your body. It's
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  Speaker 2: not good to have to play Sunday and then Thursday.
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  Speaker 3: And now we have all the data you're doing this, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you might have two a year now, So I mean
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  Speaker 3: it's headed. I mean, this is the debate you should
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  Speaker 3: have been having originally when even to have Thursday games.
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  Speaker 3: Now it's expanding and becoming more difficult. But I have
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  Speaker 3: to say, if the end result is some better product,
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  Speaker 3: then you know you're getting two fourth place divisional teams
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  Speaker 3: in early December when there's a great game just sitting
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  Speaker 3: there on Sunday that that you know, not enough people
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  Speaker 3: are going to get to see then. But I think Paul,
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  Speaker 3: you made a great point of it's just nothing can
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  Speaker 3: offset how hard it is to get ready for a
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  Speaker 3: game that quick, no matter who you're playing or what
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  Speaker 3: kind of what's at stake.
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  Speaker 5: And I know the ratings do great all always, but
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  Speaker 5: I gotta admit, like I don't always watch Thursday night football. Well,
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  Speaker 5: I does on unless it's unless it's a really really
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  Speaker 5: good game.
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  Speaker 3: You're all twenty two of you though, Yeah, that does.
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  Speaker 5: Help, But I don't always watch it because you know,
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  Speaker 5: I don't either, And I think that's just us, because
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  Speaker 5: I mean, during you watch so much football, and it's
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  Speaker 5: like sometimes you just gotta get away from it at
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  Speaker 5: night and not be watching football in the middle of
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  Speaker 5: the week. But I don't always watch it unless it's
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  Speaker 5: it's really a good game, or if it's a good
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  Speaker 5: game late and I'll flip on the fourth quarter, you know,
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  Speaker 5: of the game. But I the twenty eight day, to me,
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  Speaker 5: it seems a little bit weird too, because who's the
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  Speaker 5: same that the team's going to be the same team
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  Speaker 5: in a month, Like you know, we see so often
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  Speaker 5: that teams that the bottom falls out from underneath or
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  Speaker 5: somebody gets hurt, you know, a big player gets hurt.
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers sprains his ankle, right, and.
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  Speaker 5: Now all of a sudden he needed today. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 5: he's not playing. And but you flexed it, and you
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  Speaker 5: made all these concessions to flex it and all this
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  Speaker 5: type of stuff, and then now three weeks later it
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  Speaker 5: turns out that that's not a good game.
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  Speaker 3: And so to that point too, Havan just to jump in, like,
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  Speaker 3: Patriots Steelers are two teams that would kind of like
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  Speaker 3: tread water enough that it's hard to like deflex that game.
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  Speaker 3: You know that they're they're that kind of team.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, maybe you should shut your mic off, you hear. Anyway,
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  Speaker 4: I agree with with with the sentiments. And and I
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  Speaker 4: don't know why I tend to watch less Thursday night
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  Speaker 4: than even Monday. I don't watch Monday night games all
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  Speaker 4: the time either. And there's obvious exceptions when it's a
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  Speaker 4: matchup that specifically has something to do with the Patriots
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  Speaker 4: that I'm going to watch it. You know, whether it's
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  Speaker 4: an opponent they're going to play the following week, or
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  Speaker 4: AFC East game, you know, or you know Kansas City,
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  Speaker 4: you know, someone that directly involves the Patriots. I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to watch it whether it's Thursday, Sunday, whatever. But the
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  Speaker 4: Thursday Night games I found last year. I watched the
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  Speaker 4: very first one because I wanted to see the like
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  Speaker 4: just the usability of Amazon and all that, and I
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  Speaker 4: would say the rest of the games, like so whatever,
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  Speaker 4: fifteen more weeks, sixteen more weeks, I probably watched it
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  Speaker 4: combined ten plays.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't.
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  Speaker 4: I just didn't really watch the games because what the
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  Speaker 4: problem they're trying to fix. I don't think the matchups
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  Speaker 4: were great, and I just felt like it was not
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  Speaker 4: worth the hassle of doing it, you know, going on
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  Speaker 4: the streaming play and.
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  Speaker 3: Even when it's good teams they're banged up, they're not
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they're just trying to survive the games.
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  Speaker 4: Just just think about how many times, like a guy
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  Speaker 4: gets banged up and you're like, well, you're gonna hold
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  Speaker 4: HM out of the Thursday night game. And so it's
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  Speaker 4: not it's it's bad matchups with backup players and a
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  Speaker 4: lot of a lot of cases. I just don't think
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  Speaker 4: it's worth the hassle. But I know it makes money
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  Speaker 4: for them at all. These you know, these billions of
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  Speaker 4: dollars that that Amazon is paying to put the games
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  Speaker 4: on and they.
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  Speaker 3: I just definitely the minority.
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  Speaker 2: I just think you need people making these decisions who
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  Speaker 2: respect the game and maybe have played it at one time. Helps,
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  Speaker 2: but you don't have to have that, but at least
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  Speaker 2: understand what it takes to play football, you know, from
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  Speaker 2: a player side, from the coaching side, from the trainer's side,
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  Speaker 2: what it takes to get ready to play a football game.
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  Speaker 2: And I just think that's being lost by people that
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  Speaker 2: are just counting every penny that comes in. You know,
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  Speaker 2: new owners that you know are way over leveraged, you know,
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  Speaker 2: to buy these teams for billions of dollars and are
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  Speaker 2: looking you know, to make their money back as soon
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  Speaker 2: as possible. It's just not right. It's such a and
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  Speaker 2: it makes sense that John Mara, who was with the
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  Speaker 2: Giants you know for you know years, was furious about this,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because he does get it. He's he's in
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  Speaker 2: it because he loves football. He's not in it just
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  Speaker 2: for the money.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I wonder how uh new Raiders partial owner Tom
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  Speaker 3: Brady will feel, but Doug about players getting involved.
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  Speaker 2: Oh forget about how how do we feel about it?
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  Speaker 2: Is that is that happening or is that just still.
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  Speaker 4: Oh no, I think it was confirmed.
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  Speaker 2: It's confirmed the interest, but is it gonna happen?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're bringing it to vote like it got past
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  Speaker 5: the first got past this.
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  Speaker 2: I don't I don't care for that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care for it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care for that.
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  Speaker 3: I wonder how I mean, I wonder how Raiders fans
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  Speaker 3: feel of, you know, the player involved in one of
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  Speaker 3: the most controversial plays in their history.
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  Speaker 2: The player who's earned them all his life, owns them in.
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  Speaker 5: Their facility, in their in their practice facility. Is a
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  Speaker 5: picture of the tuck rule, And I'm like, is that
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  Speaker 5: there to like motivate people.
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  Speaker 3: Might get screwed.
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  Speaker 4: That's a big part of the Raiders mantra is that
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  Speaker 4: they're always getting screwed. And I'll guarantee that's why.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: There's another example, like putting It's.
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  Speaker 5: Like putting the stripsack against the Eagles in the Patriot
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  Speaker 5: Hall of Fame, Right, what do we We're not going
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  Speaker 5: to do that?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's that I'd be interested to see. And we all,
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  Speaker 4: I think agree that we don't think Brady's ever going
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  Speaker 4: to do games for Fox.
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  Speaker 2: But I didn't think at the time. I thought, by
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  Speaker 2: the way.
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  Speaker 4: I'm interested to see, like how can and I guess
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  Speaker 4: they've made a concession that they will allow him to do,
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  Speaker 4: Like I don't understand how that works, even even a
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  Speaker 4: minority owner partial whatever it is, you know that a
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  Speaker 4: limited part whatever he's going to officially be. He's a raider, right,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't see how you can do that. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I understand this a laundry list of former players that
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  Speaker 4: do these games, but they're still former and being paid.
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  Speaker 2: And he used to be Fox would have the NFC game,
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  Speaker 2: So all right, so he's doing just NFC matchups, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that's but now it's you know, Fox can have as
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  Speaker 2: many AFC games, and so every AFC game affects his team,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: So like I I, I don't think it's going to
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: be a big deal because I don't think he's ever
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: going I.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: Don't either games Fox.
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: But but so why does.
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: He want this?
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Why does he want to be a minority owner? You're
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: not going to have any say he just wants.
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: To be invested. I think he's still I mean, I
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: think he's still searching for the juice. After the game.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: He wants to invest himself.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: But is that going to give it to him? I
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: don't think so.
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: But what if he's I mean, I don't know, But
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: what if he ultimately wants to be the guy the owner?
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you got to have a lot of money
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: because you have to, right, but you have to control
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: fifty one percent.
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: Right, So you know that's a team that that could
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: happen to with the Raiders. Mark Davis doesn't have any kids.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: That's all. He's gonna sell a lot of electrolytes to
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: have that.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: No, he's already what if what if it works? What
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: if he has a good you know, he ends up
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: forming a good partnership with Mark Davis, and then Mark
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: Davis ends up saying, Okay, you know what I'm gonna
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: when I'm gone, you're gonna take this over. Isn't that
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: kind of what Jordan did? Michael Jordan, but the basketball
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: at the Hornets, that kind of how he got the team.
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: I just kind of feel like they, I mean, you
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: know me, that's probably not right.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: I apologize ahead of time.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: Robert Craft, if you're listening, you got to swoop in
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: and stop this and make him part of our team.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: But why wouldn't Robert Craft be listening. He listens every.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: Day every day.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: I don't think.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: I don't think you want them listening every day.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: But no, we've got to do something about this.
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: I don't but I don't think cannot stand.
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: This is not cannot stand.
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: I don't think it's about like I don't think he
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: wants I think he wants the Vegas brand. Like I
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: I Vegas right now. Is they're talking they're going to
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: bring a baseball team there. The A's are going to Vegas.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: There's gonna be an NBA team there eventually, And there's
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: really no there's no star in Vegas.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: Hot market.
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: It's a hot market, and there's no there's no guy
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: in Vegas. I mean, I guess maybe like DeVante Adams,
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: but like, there's really no guy in Vegas. The hockey
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: team's fantastic, but they don't have a Connor McDavid or
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: like somebody like that who's one singular player. And I
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: think he sees a.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: Business opportunity, so doesn't do it for you, but so like,
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: what's a good player, So just that was the most
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: random guy.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: So you think the business opportunities, he becomes the face
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: of Vegas sports.
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: I think that he wants He already owns part part
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: of the Aces. Now he's going to own part of
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: the Raiders, and he's been in talks to bring an
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: NBA team to Vegas, so I think that he's gonna
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: be he He might want to bester Vegas like the owner,
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: you know, owning owning a bunch of teams.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: I think that's just where the professional sports opportunities are
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: right now, you know, with with getting the Golden Knights
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: and now getting the Raiders, and I mean it's it's
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: where the opportunity is. I think more than him being
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: like I want to be mister Vegas, but it makes
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: more sense to me just than ever seeing him be
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: a commentator on TV. I don't think he was ever.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: I wasn't interested in that, but I think he had
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: to get back into the game.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, he tried to do it, and I mean
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: there was talk about Miami, so I know, I think
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: it's something that he definitely wants to do. And I
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: kind of agree with Mike and Evan about Vegas being
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: that opportunity right.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: Because, like here, the team's not coming out of the
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: Craft name. You know, he's not He's obviously not getting
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: it from from Robert. He's not gonna and Jonathan's gonna
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: take over the team when it's time.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: It would never be more than a novelty right here.
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: Right right someplace else like Vegas.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: But how strapped are the Raiders? I mean, is that
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: because I remember last year there was all that that's
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: about how much money they don't have.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: A lot of people think that's the reason why Josh survived.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if there's any truth to that,
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: but I know that was a theory that was prominently flowed.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do know that. When you know they built
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: that stadium, Mark Davis had very little control of what
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: was going on. The league turned to other people to
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: help him out, like for example, Jerry Jones owns all
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: the concessions there, Like was it big, right, Yeah, was
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: a big consultant. They in fact, you know little inside baseball,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: the Patriots were almost got involved and helped to build that.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: We met and sat with the construction company and the
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: architects and everything, and you know, it was almost us
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: that we're going to be like the league consultants to
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: build that stadium.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: How is he so cash strouped? I mean, everybody in
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: this league is printing money.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: He never had any money.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: He's just never had it.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: And now Davis never had the money, you know.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: But it's the point the move to Vegas. It should
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: turn them around for him though, right, Like I mean
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: this wash.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, now he's now he's getting Now, he's getting the
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: revenue that every owner gets. But he doesn't have that
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: side business or I shouldn't say side business, but he
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: doesn't have that other business that is the real.
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: Source, the paper company, right, that is true.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: But they're just their businesses, that's it. Al Davis was
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: just a football coach, that's all it was.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Really, and everybody else. How does that happen?
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the take control of the old AFL? What
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: the money things happened in the old AFL.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Did the Maras have anything? I mean, were they because
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: I always associate them, which is kind of the giant.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Maras had some other business.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: It was like one of those things where they bought
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: the team for seven thousand dollars.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: Well, I do know the Rooney think the Maras and
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: the Rooney's I think are a little bit different because
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: they've been around for I mean, we're talking about like
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: the twenty you know, buying a team was like, you know,
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: that's the Hallis family in Chicago. They've been around forever.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Clark Hunt was oil absolutely. He actually had the team
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: in Texas first and he moved him to Kansas City.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Lamar yeah, I mean Lamar Hunt. Yeah right, it was
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: his father. Yeah, I don't know, but yeah, like a
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: bunch of them. I don't like most of these.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Maras now they like going Hollywood, right, I mean.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: But you know, all these owners have a business, you know,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I know, packers are I never thought of it that
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: different than you know.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I didn't really think of it that way either.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: You always learned this stuff brought it all home.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: We have a lot of businesses. I remember in uh
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: in orientation they explained the whole Craft group, Umbrella, I
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: got the paper company, and Cager and you got the
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: I mean, it was it was. It was kind of interesting.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like people just think of Robert Craft football,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: but I f P is like the fifth biggest importer
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: in the country.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Right, and how many people just stand Yeah, like most
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: people think he's like crap food, right, Everybody Like I've
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: gotten that before, Like, oh, Craft, like Mac and cheek
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Kraft Foods.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: He has nothing to do with Draft food.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: I just remember after orientation I went home and the
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: Petco box that we had delivered was made by by
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: Rand Whitney, and I was like, hey, there you go,
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: we got.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Another of their company. Yeah yeah, yeah, So you know
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: al And you know of course, now Mark, they don't
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: have that big revenue. You know, it's all what they
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: get from football.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: It's interesting to me because they've moved their team more
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: than anybody, right, Like I mean they're Oakland or yeah, Vegas.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: I mean they've been all over the place. Just I
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: don't know, that doesn't all match up to me. It's interesting, but.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: No, I mean if the league had its way decades ago,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Al Davis would not have been the Raiders. You know,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: they got to get.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: A side hustle.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: You gotta Vegas. Vegas.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Well that's the thing you know now, you know the
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: beauty of Vegas is like with all the casinos, there's
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: no problem you know, filling those luxury boxes and of
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: the signage and all that extra money that comes in
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: from your corporate base. There's plenty of money to go around.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: You guys were there last year. What was the atmosphere.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, did it feel like a significant portion of
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: true Raider fans or did it feel like there were
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: a large portion of people who were gambling on the
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: script and said, Hey, let's go see a Raiders game.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: I thought that there was a pretty good amount of
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: Raiders fans at the regular season game we went to.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: I I we were at the Golden Nights game the
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: night before, and that felt much more like this. You know,
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: we were sitting next to there's a bachelor party that
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: like are doing that as like their early night activity,
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: and like, you know, like there is a lot more
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: of that going on. But I thought that there was
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: a decent amount of like home field advantage well for
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: the rate.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: When they first built this, I remember they asked Mark Davis,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: you know, how are you going to feel about, you know,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: half the stadium being people just from the other team visiting.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: He's like, we understand that that's the way it's going
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: to be for a while, and we're okay with that.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, as long as they're selling out the.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: Money's money, you're selling out the suits and all that stuff.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: That's where you're getting your.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: That's where you make your money, right.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: I wonder what a like a low price ticket, Like
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: if you were day a game, wanted to grab a ticket,
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: I wonder how hard that would be to procur procure.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: A couple of chips.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: That's good word, the cure ticket.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, but you know, this gets back to like,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: you know, who's making the decisions on these things like
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Thursday night games, And it's getting more and more and
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: more away from people who really just love football and
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: understand the game.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just do you think it's I just
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: I think we all find ourselves. I mean, I'll speak
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: for myself. I just I struggle because it's such a
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: violent game, and it's something that I love about the
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: game is the physicality of it and how hard of
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: a game that it is, and trying to balance doing
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: as much as you can to reasonably prevent injuries but
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: also not eating into the soul of the physicality of
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: the game. That I think, you know, is what drew
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: so many of us to this game originally. And I
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: think that's what everybody's afraid of, is like what point
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: are you going to go beyond the pale? And it
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: doesn't look like football anymore, it doesn't, you know, And
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know. If it's eliminating kickoffs, it probably would.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: You'd get used to that probably pretty quick. But they
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: just sometimes I just wonder if there's too much, Like
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: we're trying to change too much always, like every year
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: there's seven new rules that have to be implemented to
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: do X, Y and Z, and I just I don't know,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: I wonder if it's too much.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and there is one other thing that has gotten
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: a lot of the third quarterback thing.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: We haven't talked about that yet now, no great news
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: though great os.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: Mike is funny, funny man, But they put the emergency
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: quarterback rule back into effects, so that wouldn't count as
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: one of the roster spots on game day, but he
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: would have to be on the fifty three man roster
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: like always.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Right. But see, here's the thing, though, I correct me
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: if I'm wrong. You can have him as the emergency
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: quarterback and it doesn't take away from your game day roster.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: But you can't just use him willie nilly. You can
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: only use them if your other two quarterbacks go down. Now,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: I guess you could fake that, but you know you
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: can't fake.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: But they can't go back in the game, right, you
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: can fake it if you want to, but if it
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: doesn't go well, you can't say, oh, well right, that
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: didn't work right.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: So it's not like it's not like you know, and
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I know this is what people are thinking. It's not
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: like Malik Cunningham can go in and out of the game,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: But how great it would be if he could.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: You would have to make him the second quarterback and designate,
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: say in this case, Bailey Zappy right in order to
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: do that, right, which a lot of people don't. Just
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: blame Alex and Alex you can blame you can blame Alex,
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: but but Alex isn't the only one talking about this.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: A lot of other people are talking about it too.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: I find it awfully hard to believe that they would
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: go into a game with Malik Cunningham as the number
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: two quarterback because you have a package of plays that
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: you're going to use now, you know, then you'd be
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: sort of you'd be sort of stuck. Now, I guess
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: you could get around that.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: I think he could do it.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: I guess you could he could.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: Get around that. I guess like if mac Jones were
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: to get hurt and he's out for the game, like
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: you know he's out for the game, So you could
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: then go to the third quarterback and say that Malik
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: Cunningham is not going till return to this game. I
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: guess you could do it that way and get around
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: it seems like a loophole to me.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: I think that's a good idea.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: Better but then better to exploit.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Then if Malie Cunningham gets hurt, now you screw it, right.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: But I just feel like if we did that, there
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: would be a year long investigation that would go all
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: the way to the Supreme Court about how the Patriots
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: fake Bailey Zappi's injury. So I'm just not interested in
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: opening that camphere.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Bailly, you're really so you don't have to fake, you
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: just you just declare that Zappi is out, he's not
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: eligible anymore.
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: I don't wait, wait, no, you have to have some
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: sort of confusing me.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: You wouldn't want you'd want Bailey Zappi to play like
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: you wouldn't like my guess. Let's just let's play this
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: out right. Okay, it's a hypothetically, but I think none
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: of us really thinks. So if you're going to get
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: Malik Cunningham is the number two, you don't have to
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: fake anything with Bailey Zappy.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Correct, just say that Zappi is not he's the third quarterback.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: You don't have to say anything the third quarterback. But
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: what that means is if Mac Jones is hurt, you
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: live and die with MALIEK. Cunningham as your quarterback, or.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Or you fake Malik Cunningham.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: If Millie Cunningham comes in and it's an absolute disaster,
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: Oh he pulled a hammy.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Now now he's out for the game. Jones is out
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: for the game, and you go with your third quarterback Zappy,
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: and then you go that's the loophole, right, But I
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: don't I could just see Malie Cunningham's doing really bad
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: on the sideline.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: You know, one of the coaches hits him over the head.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: He's got a concussion.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Your second We can't fool around with head.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: He's got comes the thirteenth month of instigations.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there are ways around it. I just
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: you know what, what's I think Malik cunning him is
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: enough to worry about right now, other than you know,
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: his his package of plays for the opener against Philadelphia.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: I just don't can we got to cutting him on Thursday,
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: throw a football before we started to crown him as
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: this this this taste some heavy tra yeah, knowing them,
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: it probably would be after all this Malek cunning him.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: So just another wrinkle. The third quarterback is back, the
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: emergency quarterback.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: And one of the news d back is going to
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: be on NBC the pre game.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Kevin mccordy. Good gig to land right, yea, Paul, have
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: you gone to Twitter yet to you know, say how
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: she deserves this opportunity. I have not always going to
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: kill it.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: I have been rafted.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: You're crafting that one? Yeah, I have not.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: Are we going to release official statement?
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: Maybe I'll just send them a text.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Paul and I have a running like just people just
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: want to like get in insert themselves into someone else
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: about good fortune.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: It's about you.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know it does do well. You get you
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: get all the likes and tweets.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: Oh yes, oh yeah yeah so Fred and no socks
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: and I have a running joke when something like that
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: happens and it's it's like clockwork everything you know, and
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: and I and I admit.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: My day don't forget to go on Twitter and remind
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: people you know.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: You're the one that has the wonderful mother right.
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: Thanks, My mother who doesn't have Twitter, right, you know,
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: might as well.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: How you know, all mothers are the rock of the family,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: you know, just remind everybody.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: That and and harm.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Why don't you go tell your wife. You don't need
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: to tell Twitter.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Tell her it's my thoughts exactly. Well, Facebook, the big
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: one too, with the like birthday tribute like this woman
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: right here, she keeps this household to get you know,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: you have to write like a big, long, right tribute
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: on her birthday or else you don't like her.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: I think all right? Anyway, eight five five PATS five
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: hundred is the ACE ticket hotline. Web radio at Patriots
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: dot com is the email addressed.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: We getting emails and calls because I know that's Internet.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: We did get some late breaking news just before the
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: show that in Jets practice, Aaron Rodgers may have tweaked
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: his ankle a little bit. It was off of the sideline.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: It didn't look right.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, they might be able to save the ankle,
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: but it didn't look I'm looking good for I'm just
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: on Twitter.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: It's nothing.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: I don't I have no idea.
• 30:45
  Speaker 8: I'm not even really that good.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, no, no, updates. I just see the Rassini
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Rassini tweets.
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: Doesn't look good.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: No, it doesn't look good.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: No updates. I mean that says a lot.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what are they gonna run over to Diana Resenion?
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: He's the best? Was is yesterday? He he like scrambled
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: for a touchdown with the.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: Red jersey, and I was like, Oh, they didn't really
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: just put this out there like pump fakes scrambles for
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: a touchdown, Like that's not what you're supposed to do.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: In seven on seven.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: It's like you're not supposed to have the one's open
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: and seven on seven Now I run.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: Now, I get like, you know, Rogers running play, you know,
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: I get that, but like it doesn't mean you have
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: to applaud it as a touch Like I.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Don't want to say that I'm jaded now about OTA practices,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: but I just am realistic and people and I don't
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: want to ever not get excited to see it. And
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: I am excited to see it, but you just have
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: to be realistic about what you're going to actually see
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: out there.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: And I thought Mike had a good line in his
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: Sunday Notes just you know, last year at this time
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: Trey Nixon was catching passes all over the place. He
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: was not on the active roster in the twenty twenty
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: two seasons. So just a little perspective right there.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: It's like who's out there? Like I am interested? You
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: know some of the guys that were injured. Are they anticipating?
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Are people there? But I mean, are we gonna figure
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: out what Bill O'Brien's got planned for this season? And
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: you know, shirts and T shirts.
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: I think you might get some foundational elements of what
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: they have planned, which is what I'm looking forward to
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: because I think this is when you put in your
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: core stuff, Like this is when you put in what
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: they would call basic, right, like you're not gonna go
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: out there and like last year hopefully when they started
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: running outside zone all over the place and then they
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: barely used it, Like hopefully this is different.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they tell us that, you know, they put things
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: in now so that when they get to training camp,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: they're not starting completely from scratch. You know, they're got
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: something to build on.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Just think gets some pretty passes to watch in shorts,
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: you know. I mean it's like there's nothing you're gonna
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: take on defense, you know, I mean, who's playing the passes, right, Well,
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: that's what Treey Nixon was right.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: It's all about personnel groups. That's all I look at.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: You know, this is why I find out that, you know,
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Ronnie Perkins isn't in the mix and like a you.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Know Malcolm Butler is.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how you know you find well, I bet
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: that's a guy that they might have some some promise.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: I mean maybe with mccordy in that, but even that,
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: it's like, well, it's probably gonna be Dugger and Phillips
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: South there and they're just gonna have a base defense
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: and you know, it's not like we're going to be
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: seeing all the different packages there.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Because even that you have to be careful of. And
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: another thing that Mike reesaid was the information about Michael
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: Owen having surgery, so he's not going to be out there,
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: so someone, you know, maybe one of the rookies will
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: be at at guard one of the draft.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: At least we don't have to spend an hour wondering
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: who's calling plays because who's going to.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: Do that, who's got the walkie talking. That's a good point.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: It's a welcome I mean, they all have radio.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: Rather than study the coaches we can at least go
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: back to watching the actual per I do.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: I do hope that we get out there in all
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: seriousness and Mac Jones is the unquestioned guy, like he's
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: carrying himself that way, and I think that those are
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: what I think. He already had a few a few
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: notes about that recently, that that Mac is leading. How
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: do we know he can lead? Or something like that
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: was one of his sources said. But I do hope
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: that that's what we see on Thursday, that Mac is
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: mact in control, in control, He's there's no I can't.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: I have no time for this quarterback competition this summer.
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: I think it's a waste of everybody's time.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: Quite frankly, I'm not anticipating one either.
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: So I I just I hope that that's why it should.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Be Mac's job to lose. Yeah, period period. So it is.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: But do you really think there's a chance that he
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: could lose it?
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: I don't. I don't. I'm with him, I don't really Camp.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: I think we've talked about this.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: I don't think he could lose it in camp. I
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: think he could lose it during the season.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: I don't think he could lose it in camp Y.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's a true It.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Could be something happened this year and I'm not talking
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: about injury that he's just so awful, But I I'm
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: betting against that. I'd be willing to bet against that.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: I just I think it's when that when it gets
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: the going gets tough, that's when I feel like we'll
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: be for Mac to either prove he can do it
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: and bounce back and you know, stand strong when you're
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: going against good teams and it's not going your way.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Those are the things that I can to see him.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Push one of Evans simulators.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: No, they don't want to.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: I don't have Patriots at eleven and six.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: I don't like you could put anything on a graphic
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: and people will believe it.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: I'm like, like, who put.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: This on a graph?
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: Not real?
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: No, it is real, But it's like.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: They felt the need to put it on a graphic.
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: It's like as if to say like that this makes
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: it have actual.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Madden says, so.
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: Graphic it said the Celtics had ninety seven the series.
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: Well, last week Barth showed me the simulator and you
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: know him. He's like, this is the greatest thing. And
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: he's so he simulates the season for the Patriots and
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: Mac had forty five hundred yards, thirty touchdowns to nine interceptions,
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: and Ramandra Stevens had had seventeen hundred yards from scrimmage.
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: And I looked at him. I was like, this, this
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: is crap, Like what are you talking? This is not
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: gonna happen, Like this is why why are we even
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: giving this a time of day if that's what it's
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: gonna simulate, And it had the Patriots even despite that,
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: the Patriot's going eight and nine, And I was like,
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: so Mac is gonna throw for forty five hundred yards
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: and thirty touchdowns and Remondre is gonna be an All
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: Pro running back statistically and they're gonna go eight and
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: Nine's like, no, no, this thing is crap. It's crap.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Whatever Evan, I'm gonna do it again.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Oh oh.
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: They did a whole show on it him in uh
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: An Interurn Mike cad Lick. They did an entire show
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: U going through the PFF simulator and whether and whether
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: they agree with it or not. Like I was just like,
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: this is just crazy that the like this is just crap.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: At least a mock draft has like some sort of
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: you know, sele of content is.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: Then in this game this right, I'm gonna, I'm gonna.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: I have no idea about like records, you know, and
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: all that stuff, but like like numbers and stuff like,
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: I think numbers can fluctuate like that. I like, I
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: don't think it's completely outrageous to suggest forty five hundred
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: yards and thirty touchdowns. I don't know what that'll translate to. Yeah,
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: like does that mean instead of fifteen rushing touchdowns you
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: only had five? Like, so your touchdowns are roughly the same, right, yeah,
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: you know, like I don't not just punching them in
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: how many points?
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: To me?
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: In a you know, in a seventeen game season, you
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: should be throwing for over four thousand yards routinely, So
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: forty five to me is not outrageous.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: It's probably high, I agree with Evan.
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: But forty five hundred and thirty touchdown pass you should.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: Like, you should like to me, those are kind of
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: average numbers nowadays.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Well they're good quarterback numbers. Yeah, good, good, yeah, yeah
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: good quarterback.
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: Daniel Jones just got paid and he had I think
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: fifteen touchdown passes flash but talking about it.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: That's true. But he also ran a lot like I
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: don't think he's going to get like Lamar Jackson, and
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: you know that the other you know, Jalen Hurts, they're going.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: To run around and.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: You two are killing me today.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know what.
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: I don't know what happened.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: I don't know what happened to my staff. Everybody's just
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: off the rest.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Little social media violence in Kansas City. Patrick Maho tweeted
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: out or whatever he used Instagram to say, the Phoenix Coyotes.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: He said, you ought to move to Kansas City, and
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: someone from the social media the Coyotes said you ought
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: to spend more time keeping your little brother out of jail.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: You can't a menace.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: Just as an example, how quickly would I be fired
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: if I if I.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that wouldn't be on Twitter. But I guess if
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: you're the Phoenix Coyotes.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: Right, what have they got? I mean they got no stadium.
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: Some of these teams, like the Carolina Hurricanes are another
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: one that they get real snarky on Twitter. Some of
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: the teams that you're not going to take shots at
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: the Hurricanes, the Chargers, like these teams that aren't actually relevant,
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: they try to make themselves relevant by being snarky on Twitter.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: I remember last year the when the Kines knocked the
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: Bruins out in the first round. They like made like
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: this whole thing about Bruins fans like saying like Bruins
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: in six or like, you know, Hurricanes thing. It's like,
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: the Bruins are an original six franchise. They have multiple
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: Stanley Cup championships. You're the Carolina Hurricane. You weren't even
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: a real team twenty years ago, and you're talking all
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: this crap, Like, yeah, it drives me nuts.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't mind it.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: I think it's I think I think it's funny if
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: it's done well. Yeah, and I think it can be
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: done well. Like the Arizona thing. To me, that's not that.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: That to me wasn't funny. And as much as I'm
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: with everybody else on Patrick Mahomes's brother, he's pretty annoying
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: and maybe even worse, you know, depending on what the
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: actual severity is of right what got him in trouble.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: But everybody has been sort of campaigning for the Coyotes,
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: Like I saw a whole thing for the Hertford Whalers
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: to come back, you know, and uh, you know, like
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: bring him back to Hartford and this is what we
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: could do. We could build a new r you know. Yeah,
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: like did they similarly shoot back up?
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: You know, like right to me?
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: Like that's that was a little bit.
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: Just don't come after the fans.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: You went from zero to one hundred real quick.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: Just don't don't come after the fans. If you want
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: to go after other teams, like the Chargers, like with
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: their schedule release, you know, they poke fun at all
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: the other teams and stuff, fine, but don't come after
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: the fans.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Well, don't go after family members either, you know, like
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: you don't.
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: Don't don't punch pullow the belt.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if it's funny, I like it, but most of
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: them aren't really all that funny crack team of guys
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: in here.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, we h. I know that if you're
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: listening to this, you're going to be listening as a podcast,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: probably because we're not streaming live. We've got some problems,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: but that's that's okay. We get people calling in anyway. Well,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: let's go to Sean and Vancouver on the A stick
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: and hotline. What's up? Sean, Sean, all the phone's at
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: working either dead.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: I think that's a U issue.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: No, Sean, what's up, Sean? Okay, emails, Yep, we'll have
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: to go to emails. Emails are coming in.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: Oh wait, there's nothing there.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: Taylor Swift broke our internet?
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think that might be the case.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: Actually, did you get to get to no, No, far away,
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: far far away, far far away?
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: I should tell I bailed, just bailt I know. On
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Thursday I was I was wondering, but yeah, we were.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: We're out too much rain.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: My wife said it was absolutely fantastic, even in the
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: poor and rains. Oh yeah, people, I mean it was
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: that she put on a phenomenal con.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: It was like a revival.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I heard it from a lot of people who
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: just felt the whole thing was kind of lukewarm, not
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: not that great, just kidding. No one said that. Everyone
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: says it's amazing. Have you heard of anybody that was
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: like it was?
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Ok?
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: The only like place of reference I have is my
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: wife and three nieces that she took, so I wouldn't
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: know what anybody was saying.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: And all the people that were standing like in the
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: parking lot, I mean, you know, I just it was
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: it was insane. Here, it was insane.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: And that said, it's a much different crowd because she
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: only saw three people being taken out. Yeah, and usually
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: Chesney it's like, yeah, although you get that every ten minutes.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Like all the all the men's bathrooms were coming dard
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: and like women being in urine all the nuts.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: It was a couple like fourteen year olds who just
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: couldn't handle it. They had to be escorted out. They
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: were so overwhelmed seeing Taylor Swift in person, those kind
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: of things that's not really drunk crazy fight people at
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Taylor Swift concerts.
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: I'm guessing I would go to Taylor Swift if it
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: if it wasn't for the teenage girl factor. Yeah, like
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: that's like where I can't get over because I can't go.
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: And I went to Beyonce and jay Z a couple
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: of years ago whenever that was and and just the
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: screaming and I just went for I'm like Beyonce is fine,
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: but I love jay Z. So I went to go,
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: you know, really see jay Z as part of the
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: concert and just screaming for Beyonce. I was just like
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: this is why, Like this is just not.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: As part of the discussion in our household as we
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: were trying to decide to go. Rain was a big factor,
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: but also just like dealing with the whole atmosphere because
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: like no offense, but not in it, you just kind
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: of want to see a show.
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: Taylor Swift is really my generation, like people in their
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: twenties or early thirties, like myself, because she came out
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: when I was in like I think eighth or ninth grade,
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: so like that that's her core fan base. Like people
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: my age are like the people that are like her,
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: you know, original OG fans, And now you have like
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: these like thirteen year old girls that are like jumping
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: on now. And it's like, I gotta be honest with you,
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: like this doesn't make me want to go to the
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: concert because I don't want to deal with this.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, real, just a real quick addendum to the Thursday
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: night flex scheduling thing. And I just saw a quote
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: attributed to Jerry Jones. I'm reading on the scroll and
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: it just said it's it's a great thing for the
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: majority of our fans.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: Think that speaks volumes as to what the league worries about.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: They don't care about the guy who's actually spending his
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: time and money to come to your event. They don't
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: care if they're in empty stadiums, right, because they're not
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: making the money off of you, Right, They're making the
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: money off of the people and the billions and billions
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: of dollars they're getting to televise these games, and if
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: they can get more eyeballs, they can charge more money
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: for the networks to broadcast the games. That's all they
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: care about.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Andy and Cleveland. As we approach Memorial Day this week,
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: I thought it'd be a good time to revisit the
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: offseason show topic of ranking hot dog brands.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: I don't remember doing that one.
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: I think we had a question number one.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: As podcasts listener, I missed the chance to chime in
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: on the day this came up last year, and when
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: I wrote in for the next show, Fred decided shut
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: down the hot dog discussion.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: I don't have any I must have been a vacab.
• 44:44
  Speaker 8: I haven't read brands in the five years I've been here.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: I got to leave time for the soap with a
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: slot talk after all. Anyway, my comment last year was
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: that you guys had a whole talk about hot dogs,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: and no one even mentioned Ballpark the Michael Jordan of
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: hot dogs. That would probably get my vote. But I
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: agree with Fred that he is pretty good. Regardless of
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: the brand, they definitely taste better grilled or especially at
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: a baseball game.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Bill Park.
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: Frank's is your number one Hebrew Nationalist one.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: I like Hebrew national all beef. You can't get the
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: you know, you know, uh low beef one or Kayam
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: is good too.
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: I think that's Frank Kayam is the brand?
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Is that what you're gonna say?
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: I know I was gonna say, Pearl hot dogs. Pearls
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: are good, Pearls are number one, pearl pearls.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: Are very good. I used to actually know that family
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: hundred years ago. Reships.
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: Again, those are those are some hefty hot dogs. So
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: you gotta be you're you're you're eating the meal there.
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: But Paul Park Franks, my goodness, Like, come.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: On, I mean, listen, in a pinch, I'll eat him.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: I love, but I would agree with the ones that
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: you guys have put above it.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: I would have. And and what's your like? I know
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: the easy way is you just boil him and eat him.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: But like, if you have your brothers what's the best
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: way to cook them that tastes the best in your opinion?
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: I mean I could go a lot of different ways,
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: because I do like a good grilled, little crispy hot
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: dog grilled sometimes, but I also like to cut them
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: in half like five guys doesn't, and and cook them
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: on the flat top and then kind of get anose
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: in that way.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: I liked them.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: Those are my two fried in butter.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Isn't bad fried and butter?
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I've tried to look at his belly.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: I've tried them all.
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: I kind of like broiling them. Yeah, that's what my
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: dad used to do in the winter time, and you know,
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: kind of gives that same grill. It's kind of like
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: grilling them a little bit.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: No, I do love my hot dogs.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: And how do you now them?
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: See in New England people don't know how to eat
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: a hot dog. You eat a hot dog with spicy mustard,
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: spicy brown mustard and sour kraut. That's how you eat
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: a hot dog. Yeah that's fine, but you don't have
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: you can't get sour krowd up here.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: Well, that's what I was going to say, Like, where
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: do you get.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: The sour right you can't get it up here.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: I just go onions with them with Yeah, there you go. Yeah,
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: mustard and onions were tried on a hot dog. Paul
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: Pearl knew that was coming. See now this year we
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: won't have to do that because we'll have Malie Cunningham
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: to entertain us.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Welcome, Welcome.
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to get you sent to me by Pearl
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: by saying.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Well your hot dog buns? Do you like the buns
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: that have the brown on the outside of New England buns.
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: That are Martin the white? I like the white on
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: both sides.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: You like the white on both sides?
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: Yea, I should try those Martins.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: They're like potato rolls, Yeah, potato bread.
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: I love that.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: This is a hot dog I never thought i'd take
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: because I don't really.
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: Yes, bad, big big hot dog. Family, big hot dog.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: But you gotta do the beef though, right, because.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I made the worst mistake once when I was a kid.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: It was either my mother's birthday or Mother's Day. I
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: got her a hot dog maker and she.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: Looked at me like like you like, you put the
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: intestine here me one.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: That had like the little the process. Yeah, and you
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: put them on semi. Yeah, and I brought her that
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: and she's like, no, this is.
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: I remember one year when we were still in Walpole
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: Park for the Red Sox opening day. Once remember Bobby
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: uh what was his name, Bobby Nichols.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he had like a whole tail game.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Inside Wallpole with the George Foreman.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: He had like a Buelman grill with the hot dogs,
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: and we had like Red Sox.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Opening played with fotball on the back.
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: It's like.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: It was a simpler time. Yeah, we weren't worried about
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: like tenth Pole events in the off season to carry
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: the social media.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: All right, calls coming in eight five five, pass five hundred, Sean,
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: and Vancouver is back. What's up, Sean?
• 48:43
  Speaker 9: Yeah, No, I couldn't hear anything for a while. Actually,
• 48:46
  Speaker 9: the main reason I called is so I can hear
• 48:47
  Speaker 9: the show.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: Someone else is doing that now too.
• 48:52
  Speaker 9: Yeah. But I want to talk a little bit about
• 48:54
  Speaker 9: the Eagles opener because I'm kind of happy in a
• 48:58
  Speaker 9: way that it's coming right away, because it's it's the
• 49:00
  Speaker 9: biggest challenge is that team is stacked like they they
• 49:04
  Speaker 9: are great everywhere and we're going to see right away,
• 49:08
  Speaker 9: especially in the areas where the Patriots struggled last year,
• 49:11
  Speaker 9: if they've improved enough, you know, or at all. I
• 49:15
  Speaker 9: think in the secondary they have, I'm pretty sure. But
• 49:18
  Speaker 9: I want to see how that's that challenge comes through.
• 49:20
  Speaker 9: And I'm wondering if Jonathan Jones is going to be
• 49:24
  Speaker 9: playing more safety than than not. I'm not sure if
• 49:28
  Speaker 9: he's going to be in the slaughter or to have
• 49:31
  Speaker 9: Marcus Jones. And we'll see what we see how that
• 49:33
  Speaker 9: shapes shapes up.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the secondary personnel is one of the
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: things that we'll probably be looking at a little bit
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: in the next few weeks in these these camps because
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: I think you could go with Jalen Mills back there too.
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: And as Sean said, have Jonathan Jones in the slot.
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: I don't love the idea. I love, love, love Marcus Jones.
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: I don't think I love the idea of him being
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: a full time corner, Like.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: I just think he's well a slot corner.
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't love that idea. No, No, I now
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: maybe he's better than I then I remember, but I
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: think I just saw him chasing a lot.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah in certain games though, Like I want him running
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: with Tyreek Hill when we play the Dolphins. Now he
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: should I'll take Jonathan Jones should have help, but I
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: want him, you know, stride for stride with him at
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: least being there so minimize the yards after catch.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: I think they got a lot of matchup pieces.
• 50:27
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: How is it depending on week to week how it goes,
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe there are certain matchups that make more
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: sense than me. I just like to see more of him.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: I think he got last year kind of thrust in
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: the fire plane outside at the end of the year
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: and not really his ideal spot. But I also am
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: not as high on playing him full time on offense
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: as I know a lot of people out there are
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: that are banging that drum that he should, you know,
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: have nearly a full time role on offense. I don't know.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: I don't know about that one.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: Uh, Sean, you want me to put you on hold? Yeah, okay,
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: down the line.
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: I'm also I'm weary of Jonathan Jones playing a ton
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: of safety because I'm as high on Christian Gonzalez as anybody.
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: But until Christian Gonzalez gets his feet wet a little
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: bit in the NFL, Jonathan Jones is still your best corner.
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: So you're moving your best corner back. I just I
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: would much rather see him stick at corner where he belongs,
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: I think. And Jack Jones, I think is the big
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: wildcard out of all this is Frankly, can you get
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: himself out of the doghouse to be a contributor, because
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: I've seen so many guys, and we've all seen so
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: many guys that once you cross Belichick like you usually
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: don't play like right, once you're outside the circle of trust,
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: you're kind.
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: Of the season with With Jonathan Jones.
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: Marcus Jones, and Miles Bryant.
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: It was Jonathan Jones, Marcus Jones. Yeah, so yeah, I
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: mean Jack Jones is the wildcard. You guys are right,
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: because if he has a role and it's Jonathan Jones
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: and Jack Jones while you're waiting for Gonzales. You know,
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: I think Gonzales eventually will be that guy probably weak one, probably, Yeah.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: But.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: That to me makes more sense, And that's why I
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: would identify Mills for a lot of reasons, not the
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: least of which was him sort of hinting at it.
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: He's on Twitter, you know, I think Mills is the
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: guy that will be back there. But I also hesitate
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: to just say because they drafted Christian Gonzalez in the
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: first run, your secondary is going to be better than
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: it was last year. You also lost a very important
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: piece of that secondary last year. So I think it
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: has the potential to be better because I think Gonzales is,
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: you know, potentially better than any corner you have. But
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: like Evin said, you have to see that before you
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: just automatically assume it.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: Only Cunning.
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think with Jack a little better than Anie
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: Cunning him.
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: I think with Jack Jones because with Jack Jones in
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: the fold, and you have Jack Jones playing outside even
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: with Christian Gonzalez, and then you know they're gonna play
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: three corners the majority of the time. So then Marcus Jones,
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: you think, is in the slot, and that would allow
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: John Jones in this scenario to be more flexible and
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: play a little bit.
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: I like the idea of Gonzales and Jack Jones with
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: Jonathan Jones in the slot. That to me would be
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: ideal if it worked out that way. But I agree
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: with the way you guys talked about Jack Jones, both
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: of you. We've seen this before with Bill. It takes
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: a lot to sort of change that.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: I just hear a lot of fans, uh, you know
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: what about Jack Jones, like, don't forget about Jack Jones
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: going to be the guy. And I'm like, I'll believe
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: it when I see it.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Maybe he could be.
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: I believe that they were going to play him when
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: I see it.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: But you knew that he had off the field issues
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: coming in. He almost felt like a chance coming in,
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: and then those popped up during his rookie season in
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: a way that I mean, what was it that he.
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: Talked back or something like he wasn't showing up to
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, this is reportedly, we don't know the actual facts,
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: but this is what was written at the time, was
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: that he was missing some of his rehab assignments and
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: sort of arguing with the coaching staff and the training
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: staff as to what his best course of action was
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: in rehab.
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: Frankly, I'm surprised he's still on the team.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: It might speak, might speak how good they think, the
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: hope that they have for him being able to turn
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: it around.
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: But just the way that when you cross that line,
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: I know with this team, it's forget about it.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Matt and Raleigh, North Carolina, but originally from Vermont. I
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: recently watched Man in the arena. And since I've only
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: been a Patriots fan since the twenty ten season, a
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: lot of the storylines during two thousand and one were
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: new to me. It got me wondering if the Patriots
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: might have still won the Super Bowl thirty six if
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Drew Bledsoe was the starting quarterback just for that game.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: What do you think? What was the media's take on
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: it at that time?
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: It was Brady all the way in the media, and
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: that one game I think they could have won just
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: because of the way the game unfolded. But there's like,
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: and you will not find a bigger Drew Brett Bledsoe
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: supporter than me. They were not a Super Bowl team
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: with true Bledsoe that year. Yeah, now, that one game,
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: much like they won in Pittsburgh, Like was defense, it
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: was special teams, it was other factors.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: Can he just orchestrate that last dry It's kind of
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: the only question.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Well, but but it wouldn't have cut down to field, Yes, yeah,
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: you know it probably the game would have looked.
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: Completely given John Madden chills going down the field, and.
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: You know, and like I'll say it, frankly, would Drew
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: have made mistakes during the game before that right that
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: that Tom didn't because that was the difference, or would
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: have scored more point less mistake prom or he you
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: know the other possibilities he could have scored more. I
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: like to go that way. They would have won the
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: game going away, Fred, I'm with you see thirty eight
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: fourteen final.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Because nothing well you know, nothing would have changed for
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: the Patriots and defense. They would still would have had
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: the same game plan going in to basically hold Marshall
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: falk All game right.
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: Everything they did.
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: Fact probably would like to say that they beat him up.
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: I don't like Yeah, I know, I don't like hold
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: because Mary Marshall likes to claim that they that's what
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: the game plan.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Sure, there was a little bit of that. Marie and
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: Durham North, New Hampshire. I'm guessing I fall into a
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: rare Nietzsch category of your listeners mid twenties women who
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: are both lifelong listeners to the show and lifelong Taylor
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Swift fans. Nice and also U Mass alumni. Shout out
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: to Alex. I was lucky enough to be at the
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: Friday concert. My friend's cousin actually met Mack and Sophie
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: on the floor that night. Got a picture with them
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: and said they were both the nicest people. Mack was
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: dressed up to match Taylor's Reputation album, and in one
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: of the team's social media videos, he stated that Reputation
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: is his favorite Taylor Swift album because of what it
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: stands for. I, for one, love that Mac is in
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: his reputation era. That album is all about ignoring the
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: haters in the media, putting in the work, and owning
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: who you are in your success. On the other end,
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: I think that is exactly what we're gonna see this season,
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: a solid comeback after a rough year and real f
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: you to anyone who thinks he isn't good enough. Also,
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: gotta love him showing up the Sunday Show with Mike
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Asicki and Hunter Henry to the Sunday Show. You can
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: already see the chemistry there. Let's hope it shows up
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: just as well on the field. Wow, what did you shows?
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: Great email? I agree one hundred percent. I picked up
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: on that when we put out the the video him
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: saying that he's on his reputation era. Love it, love
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: it the F you tour.
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: I'm on it if that's what it ends up being,
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: and then I love it too.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: I could have done without doing there.
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: Listen, he was into it. He did, he did it
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: for right.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: We've all done things, Paul.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: Come on, I've never I've never dressed up, not even
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: for the Dave Matthew Show. I got the tickets, that
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: was what I did.
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: This is another thing that Bart and I always argue about, like,
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: just wait till you get a girl, Alex, all right,
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: like you'll you'll be dressing up when she says to
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: dress up, You dress up, dude. All right. That's just
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: how we were.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: The first person he calls, you know, I tried from coach.
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: It doesn't work.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: All that needling U branded. And I saw James White
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: at my work yesterday. He seems like a really nice person,
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: and I can see why he's one of Paul's favorite.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: I told him that his part in the schedule release
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: video was the best part, and he said that he
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: had a lot of fun shooting it and that the
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: final project came out great. So nice job to all.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: It seems like everyone involved had a great time. It's
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: true that.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: Was fun watching him, Jimmy White run around for Ivan
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: and at some of the shots they just got were
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: so good of him. Just sweating, and I mean, I
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: just thought Chris and Tony did a great job with that.
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: Those scenes, just James's frustration doing stuff was fun.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: Yep, Bob and Wilmington, North Carolina. Please let me know
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: when you find a few players on this year's team
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: that are starved for a championship. I'm not talking about
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: mad dog crazy, starve like Brady was every single day.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: Please just show me anyone on the team now that
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: is rabbit to win a championship. Who was the next
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: true leader of this team that will force the players
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: into another Super Bowl run. It's getting old watching us
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: play games with no hot I don't know, I don't
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: know if that's a fair criticism.
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: Are we talking about the Celtics? Are we talking about.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: That's what I thought at first, you know, yeah.
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good question. That that good point.
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: Maybe they're talking about I don't think.
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: I don't think I have a heart problem speaking of
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: the Celtics problem.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Speaking of the Celtics. So I'm watching I mean, obviously
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: that that Game three was an embarrassment, but I'm watching
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: Joe Missoula, and all I could think of was Chuck Pegano,
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Like the facial expressions looking around, knowing this is time
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: for me to do something, but I don't know what
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: I should be doing. You're just out of his depth,
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: just like Chuck Pegana was. It was just awful. And
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: then there's no way in the hell I'm paying Jalen
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: Brown that MAX contract. He's gone. I'll trade him. I
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: want to point guard. Get me somebode who can handle
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: the ball.
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: Please, Well, that's not Jalen Brown.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: I know, but I'm gonna. I want to trade him winning. Yeah,
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: he's gone. We can't pay him that money. I'm sorry why,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: because he's not worth it.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: He's regressed.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: You have to pay him the money and regressed if
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: you had the.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: Best year of his career, I don't care about points.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: You have to pay. Well, he's All NBA second time.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: By the way, you want to.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: Get rid of Jalen Brown, It's fine, he didn't regress.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: The years.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: You get, you get named to the All NBA team,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: and that makes you eligible for these Matt who selects
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: the All NBA? Right, Yeah, that's ridiculous. So the hands
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: of my future is in the hands of these rights.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: I'll make it.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: I'll make it more ridiculous. I'll make it more ridiculous.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: A stupider system in my life.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: I'll make it even more ridiculous for you in a second.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: But unfortunately, that's the way it's done in a lot
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: of sports. It's not directly tied to salary in the NFL,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: but the writers pick the m v P and All
• 1:00:49
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• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: millions of dollars for that incentive is one same thing.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: But to have a max contract based on writers.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: Saying I agree, that's I agree, it's dumb. But what
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: I really think over the top is the way they
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: pick those teams. And Evan, you're being more of an
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: NBA guy than me. Correct me if I'm wrong. Yeah,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: they picked teams like center, forward, forward, guard, guard, So
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: that's absurd.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: That's not how.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: I don't care if or not there should be the
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: five best players of the first team All NBA. Yeah,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: I don't know the fact that Jokic is the second
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: team All NBA player and everybody and the brother thinks
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: he should have been the MVP.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: Right now, you're.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: Telling me, at best he's the sixth best player in
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: the league. Yeah, that's absurd.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: There, so they're changing that. I think they're changing that too.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: It's going to be essentially front court players and backcourt players.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: So uh Embi and Jokic would be able to be
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: on the first team together. But it's it's with Jalen
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: not to go on a whole like NBA contracts rant,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: but trading him on the last year of his current
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: contract is selling for fifty cents on the dollar. You
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 5: can't do it. So you have to give him the
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: Supermax and trade him on the super Max to the
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: next team because he has no value.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Whatever the agreement contract with the next team. Fine, but
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't want them that. I mean that
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: that's not at that price.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: I think that they're the problem with this.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: Out on Jalen Brown, we were talking about.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: The Celtics have two stars that are both to beta.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: To be the guy that in that that league specifically,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: you have to have a champion amongst the group. Yeah,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: and those those two guys I think might be a
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: little bit too to lase to beta and I don't
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: know if they're ever gonna win together. It's a bummer
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 5: because as as a diehard Celtics fan watching, there's nothing
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: better besides winning obviously, then watching your team draft two
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 5: guys and then watching them blossom into superstars together like
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: the Jays have. But I don't know if either one
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 5: of them has that that killer I at the Tiger
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: and is like gonna walk into the room and be
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: like no, like this is what we're we're we're not
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: messing around, Like this is what we're doing. I don't
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: know if either one of those guys has that that
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: type of attitude.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, Jalen Brown might have the attitude, but he
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: doesn't have the ability.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: Like, I think you're selling him short. I think you're
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: you're judging up small the biggest. I think you're judging
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: him on the last Tatum scored the I see in.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: The playoffs, just the losing the ball, the wild drives,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: you know, into traffic. It's just like again, the other guys.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: Are the final series, and I don't know, You're not
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: the only one that feels this way.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: Jalen's handles are not No, that's not that's not a
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: strength strength game.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna take a break. We gotta go,
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  Speaker 2: In the rain. Yeah all right, let's see what do
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: we got Ramon has a simple question. He says, why
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: are they not restocking the Julian Edelman jerseys in the
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: Pro Shop. I've been trying to purchase one for two
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: years now. Only jerseys I've ever wanted was his in Rondo,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: and now I can't get either. Guess I'll get Jalen
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: Brown's if he were signed that. I thought, you know,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: it's funny because I was in the Pro Shop maybe
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago because one of our people
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: left for another job, and I got him a, you know,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: a customized jersey, and I remember seeing Edelman jerseys that day.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: It was like two weeks ago. It was the red
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: throwback jersey.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: Which one's he looking for?
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 5: I have a a white Edelman stitched in like authentic jersey.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: That from your fan days.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, my sister got it from me for my birthday
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 5: from my fan days, so you frame it. It's in
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 5: my closet.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: Now, if you were to get a jersey, would you
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: want it with your name, a player name or blind?
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: Oh no, I just go with a player name. I'm
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: with Meghan here, like I'm past that. I'm sixty two
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: year old, man. I don't want to be wearing the
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: name of another man on my bad.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: Well, I think it's supportive player. I would. I'm with
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: Meghan largely like I don't think I would wear jerseys,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: and I never really wore jerseys in public. But I
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: think you want to wear a jersey to a game,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: that's that's great. You want to come to practice wear
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: a jersey, I'm going to care. You want to throw
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: a tong. I just I would just say, if you're
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: gonna buy a jersey, buy one that you know is
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: gonna last. So An Edelman, a Brady at Gronk. You
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: know though, I'd always try to buy players that I know.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: Look even when no matter when this guy leaves the team,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: I'm always gonna be able to wear it to a
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: Patriots thing.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I have three jerseys Patriots jerseys still Welker, Edelman, Brady,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 5: and I feel like with Welker that one went in
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: the back of the closet for a while after he left,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 5: But now I feel like I would. I wouldn't wear
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: it because I know I have covered the team, but
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 5: like if I if I were to wear a jersey,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't be embarrassed to wear Welker anymore.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: Why would you be embarrassed. Yeah, it's awesome.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: If you had a like I would wear a Hannah jersey.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's good, right, I mean I didn't.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 5: I only wear like. I feel weird wearing like, you know,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 5: like a Larry Bird jersey to himself. I never saw
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 5: Larry Bird play, so I you know, I feel weird
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 5: about that. But I usually I usually wear a Tatum
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 5: jersey the Celtics game. Sometimes I'll wear the Pierce one,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 5: but yeah, usually Tatum the Truth. Yeah, Bruins Macavoy.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: I still have to bring. I have a good from
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: when my dad was a rebock in the nineties, a
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: Bledsoe reversible jersey. So it's got the white one on
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: one side and the blue one on the other of
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: the old elves. That's a good one. And my uncle
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: also found a Curtis Martin one of those old ones,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: but it's way too small for me to wear and
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: no one wants to see that.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, nice. Let's go to Todd, North Carolina on the
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: East ticket hut line. What's up, Todd?
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 7: Well, I gotta thank Evan for another good thing. I
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 7: liked his idea of picking a position you'd like to
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 7: see in the off season and somebody I think wrote
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 7: the mail bag and he said, yeah, he was interested
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 7: in running back, and I was like, what would I
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 7: be interested in? And I figured that my from my
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 7: point of view, I really want to see what the
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 7: D line can do. And I know we won't see
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 7: much right away, but I'm hoping that the D line,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 7: especially in the when we get to work the preseason games,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 7: can show something some more speeds, some more activity. I
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 7: really want to see where they play. So what do
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 7: you guys, Well.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: I was going to just ask you, like I mean,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: because you've got a lot of veterans on the defensive line,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: So I mean, it's are you looking at like bar
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: More and Keyon White, because I mean it's it's probably
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: going to be a lot of Guy Gotschaw and Wise.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: I don't even know how much they're going to play
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: in the preseason.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 7: I'm hoping that they keep Guy Godshaw and Wise out.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 7: I don't want to see them in the preseason because
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 7: well they're veterans and why wear them out. And I'm
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 7: hoping we don't see a lot of them like I expect,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 7: just in rotation. I don't want to see like guy
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 7: on the field for the whole game or anything weird
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 7: like that. But I want to see some of the
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 7: young guys and I want to they do. I think
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 7: I'm also including the linebackers in this too, because I
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 7: want to see, you know, how the line and the
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 7: linebackers interact, and what kind of play calling they're doing,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 7: and what they're a kind of set up on their
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 7: defense to maybe pressure the QB and you know, keep
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 7: those stats at atle Brinty guys in check.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good one. I I mean, I'm definitely
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: interested in how they kind of break things up with
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: the safety and linebacker group this year. You know, how
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: does mccordy's absence factor and but I'm going to say
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: the tight end group. I want to see what Kasiki
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: is and can Kasiki bring something different than Johnny I
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: I think you said before Juju. I am excited to
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: see him and to see some of the you know,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: maybe he raises the level of play over over what
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: Jacobe had. But I think Kasiki is a real wild
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: card for this offense. And how do they use him.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: I mean they Bill O'Brien obviously has a history with
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: him down year. Last year was kind of you know
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: not phased out, but was just not as big a
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: part of Mike McDaniel's offense as he was previously. So
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: he's got some athleticism. And I mean somebody brought up
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: him and Hunter Henry and Mac were at Taylor Swift days.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: I like that, and I want to see how does
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: that trio, especially in the red zone. They were so
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: bad in the red zone last year, worst team in
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: the league. So I think kasiki for me, and you know,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: how how does that all come together with the tight ends?
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I wrote a you know, wide receivers, I think
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 5: is obvious. Everybody loves watching the wide receivers, especially this
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 5: time of year before we get the pads on. But
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 5: I said running back because I really want to see
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: Pierre Strong involved, Like I want to see them get
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 5: a guy that has some real game breaking speed, some touches.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 5: They don't have enough of those guys, it feels like
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 5: over the last couple of years. And they have two
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: now with Taekwon and Pierre Strong, and that's why they
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 5: drafted those guys in that class. And let's see what
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 5: those guys can do in the open field. Let's get
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 5: them into some space, Let's get them in some advantageous
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 5: matchups or situations where they can use that speed and
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 5: see if they can make some plays.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: See, and that's a guy too, like Pierre Strong. He
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: should get plenty of action in the pre preseason, the summer,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: you know, right, So it's totally interesting.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 5: I just don't want, you know, I think this team
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 5: sometimes they fall into those traps of going with the
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 5: veteran guy, and like, I don't want to see James
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 5: Robinson more involved than Pierre Strong. And it's no offense
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 5: to James Robinson. I just think that Pierre Strong, you
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: got to give him a shot. You got to. You
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 5: don't know what he is yet, right, because I mean
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 5: he was a fantastic player at San Diego State, and
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 5: you know, you really are are South Dakota State, I say,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 5: you know, close close, and uh, you know, he's a
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 5: fantastic player there and real, I mean he had something
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 5: crazy like double digit touchdowns over fifty yards or something
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 5: like that and his last year there. So let's see
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 5: what he's got.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: Just watching NFL Network is showing a player's choice game.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: It's Jacoby Myers, and he chose a Monday Night Football
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: Patriots Jets game three years ago, yeah, and.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 5: I think it's still his game high or career high
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 5: in receiving yards for a single game. So I think
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 5: that's why I picked this one.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: I figured he had a good game, Yeah, Ryan. His
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: favorite jersey is a light blue tie law from the nineties.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 10: Uh.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: And his offseason question is if every Brady led team
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: was to have a tournament, which which year would come
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: out on top? Uh?
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 14: Uh.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: That's a good question. I wish Paul was here to
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: chime in that one.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, oh, seven comes to mind first.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, how do you I mean, even though they
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: didn't win it, I think I.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: But that fourteen was also a really good team.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: Not quite the offensive powerhouse, I felt like, but maybe
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: a little bit more on top of their game as
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 3: far as defensively, Like those guys were all still like
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: I think by the time you got to seven, guys
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: like Bruce Ki McGinnis, obviously Junior Seou came in, those
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: guys were kind of tapering off, I felt like, And
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: that was maybe a little bit of what the Bruins
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: were this year, like kind of the death rattle of
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: a really really good group of players that you know,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: just to play out of their minds. And you know,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: just didn't have quite enough gas at the end to
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: punch it through. But oh, seven or four, I think
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: maybe fourteen lurking in there, So I.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 5: Would say fourteen it would be up there for me.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 5: I think just when you look at that roster, there
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 5: are guys at the back end of that roster that
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 5: couldn't even get on the field that were big time
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 5: NFL players because of how deep they were, especially on defense.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 5: You know, Malcolm Butler was an afterthought on that fourteen
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 5: team for a lot out of the season and then
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: he ends up making the biggest player of the year.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 5: So I think that they're that team you still had.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 5: You know, on offense, it's Kroc, it's Edelman. You know,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 5: they were stacked. They were stacked team in fourteen.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: Let's see. Trent writes in from Sylvan Lake, just wanted
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: to get it pat in the back to Paul for
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: his great work on the Pats from the Past podcast.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: The latest episode with Scott Pioli might be the best
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: one yet. It was full of awesome insight into team
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: building and specifically how Bill built the team. It was
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: also great at showing Pioli as a person, made him
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: so much more likable. He came across as genuinely good guy.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: My opinion of him did a complete one eighty after
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: listening keep up the good work, long ball, Paul.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: I got to listen to that one. I still haven't
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: gotten to it, but it's two part. I got to
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: throw it in today. I'm excited to hear it. Paul said.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: They you know, they got a lot of good stuff
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: out of PILLI and just Paul knows Peoli a little bit,
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: so I think that always helps it. Mankins, he knows
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: Mankins a little bit. When they have that relationship, it
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: always seems like they get good, good stuff out of
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: the guys.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they feel more comfortable, they open up a little bit.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good format. They've done it over forty
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: now and keep doing them.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, keep pumping them out.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: Floyd and Redford Michigan Evan, thank you for talking about
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: the possibility. However, remote of Malik Cunningham as a quarterback question,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: Why is it so important to see Mac Jones defeat
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett? Why couldn't you take the discourse around the
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: team if Kenny outduels Mac?
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 7: What?
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 5: I said that on catch twenty two?
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what was that about.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 5: I just need to see Mac beat Kenny Pickett in
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 5: that Steelers Patriots game. We were talking about the schedule.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 5: It's not like the I don't really it's not like
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna break into tiers if he doesn't. But I
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 5: just those are the types of quarterbacks now, Kenny Pickets
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 5: of the world that Mac Jones should be beating. Like
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 5: if he's going to be your guy, then he's got
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 5: to be able to beat those types of cubes.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: What did you think of Picket last year? I mean,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: like compared it compared to Mac Max two years.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 5: I thought, is like his last month of the season
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 5: with his rookie Max rookie year. I just Pickett and
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 5: Mac are similar, like I think that they're similar skill sets,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 5: similar certainly in body type as well. So I just
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 5: I don't know, I got to see him out duel
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 5: some of these quarterbacks and Kenny Pickett, we're not really
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 5: asking him to out duel Patrick mahomes by saying that
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 5: I want a baby Kenny Pickett babe like in some babysack.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: But you got to figure out where Mac is, you know.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: I think that's all just part of the pecking order
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: and I mean, we know a lot of the matchups
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: that he's going to be going against a team with
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: a quarterback who's better than him, and we know what
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: that entails. But those games, I hear what you're saying.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 5: Like Sam Howell, Kenny Pickett, even Derek Carr, like I'd
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 5: like to see if.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: Matt scores thirty four points and you lose, is that
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: match fault depends?
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 5: And it depends does he have a chance to win
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 5: the game?
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 7: Late?
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 5: Do you know you got to win some of these
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 5: games that are not twenty to seventeen, like you got
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 5: to be able to win ps.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett's game winning throw on the road against the
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: Ravens was Mahomes esque. Teflon Mack couldn't make that play.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, Josh and Dallas. I'm sure you guys have
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: seen by now j C. Jackson calling the Patriots match
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: up a revenge game. To be honest, I'm not sure
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: he was a big enough player for the Patriots to
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: be saying something like that, and he kind of chose
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: to leave as opposed to being traded. I recently went
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: back and watched the KCAFC Championship game, and late in
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: the game. He almost cost them a few times with
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: penalties in getting burned and third down. This is my question.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: Do you think some of the former New England corners
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: have had success because of scheme or are they just
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: good at identifying talent? Looking forward to seeing what Gonzales
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: looks like this year, I think both.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 3: I think they I think they got an eye for guys,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 3: and I think that they're able to develop them. I mean,
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: don't I think that they get a little bit. I mean,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: I don't mean this as a negative, but I just
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: think people generally say, like, well, they just developed number
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: one corners all the time. I don't think that that's true.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: I think that they can develop solid cornerbacks all the time,
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: especially in the slot where they seemingly have an unending
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: supply of guys coming through. But I think Christian Gonzalez
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: is gonna I'm optimistic that Christian Gonzalez is gonna kind
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: of change the formula a little bit and say, all right, yeah,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: they can take an undrafted guy like Malcolm Butler and
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: turn him into you know, first a super Bowl hero
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: and then a starting corner for a couple of years.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 4: So cash is in but.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: Zales Okay, so what are whether the number one corners
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: that they developed, like truly number.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: One corner I mean Butler, I mean a number.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 5: One corner And we're not talking if not counting Butler
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 5: and j C. Jackson then really not none none.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: So like it's kind of they take guys who were
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: low drafted or not drafted and they make them players
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: in the NFL. I mean, I'll give him that JA C.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: Jackson is making them number one corners.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think j. C. Jackson is probably better
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: than than Malcolm Butler was, but you know that.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: Jackos prove himself as a number one course as close
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: as you got in jury's out, he's not.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: No. I did see those comments. I'd also just like
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: the highlight. I liked what Isaiah Winn had to say
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: he got asked. He was totally classy about you know, hey,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to playing against those guys, but they
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: gave me my start. Like you know, I don't know
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: what I was expecting out of him. He didn't really
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: always seem to me like he wanted to be here,
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: but you know, he just took the high road. And
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: I generally like that. Nothing against j C. It is
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: what it is. I know that's how he is. That's
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: just the guy that he is. He wants to compete
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: and you know, take things personally like that.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 5: To care less about what jac had to say, to
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 5: be honest with you. And I think that j C
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 5: is a classic case of when he gets cut by
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 5: the Chargers in a year, it's probably going to be
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 5: back here. And so you know, which is trying with me?
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 5: Like I think jay C. Jackson was a good a
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 5: good patriot. Was he a number one? Like put him
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 5: on Stefan Diggs. I think we learned No, he was.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 5: He wasn't good.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: But playsides corner, yeah, and he is.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 5: He is a good playmaker at that position though, And
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 5: if you have so, I will.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: Say so, you know, to answer the question, I do
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: think that, you know, the game planning and the scheming
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: is a big part of these players' success, keeping them
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: out of trouble, knowing their job, putting them in positions
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: to succeed, rather than you know, have them all over
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: the field. You know, I like last year is an exception.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: You guys get hurt and some guys had to play
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: out of position. But for the most part, scheme is
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: a big part of keeping these guys safe.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I would also say game plan yeah, because they
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 5: Jalen Mills talked about this a lot, and a bunch
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 5: of them have over the years that like the Patriots,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 5: they're deep dives into these opponents when it's like third
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 5: and three. The Patriots know of the play because they've
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 5: studied them so well, they know what their tendencies are,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 5: they know the couple of plays they probably choose from
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 5: in this down and distance or this situation. And he
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 5: said that it's really Bill Will. Bill will come into
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 5: the room and be like, look, you know here a
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 5: third and six, like if they're in this formation, like
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 5: they're running this play like this is their bread and butter.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 5: These are their five go to plays and third down
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 5: and those that goes a long long way of allowing
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 5: these guys, by process of elimination, to have a nice
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 5: anticipatory step.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: And then translate that right to plays on the ball.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 3: With jac Jackson, I mean, how many you know interceptions,
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: We talked about it all the time with him that
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 3: he just was usually in the right place. It wasn't
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: that you know, it was some crazy athletic jump through,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 3: you know, grab the ball. It was he's right with
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: his guy, he's right where he needs to be in
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: the ball gets thrown right to him. I think, I mean,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 3: I just think it all kind of connects together. And
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: that's again just the tie it up. Is why I'm
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: so excited about Gonzales because I feel like, you know,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: it doesn't have a ton of ball, you know, production
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 3: on the ball, that kind of thing. But I just
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: think he's a like we call it a raw lump
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: of clay right now, with all the things you want,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: He's definitely got the you know, if you can put
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: the mind, have to put the everything. Evan just tom system.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 3: Is that brain into him, He's going to be awesome.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 5: A lot of their coverage system is actually pretty simple.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 5: Like when you talk to like high school and college coaches,
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 5: they'll tell you that it's it's really not like reinventing
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 5: the wheel or anything like that. But they they do
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 5: a great, great job of allowing their corner is to
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 5: play to their help, especially in the middle of the field,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 5: and you know, playing off that leverage and that that's
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 5: a big, big part of what they do. Is all right,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 5: you have you know, post safety help and then you
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 5: have maybe a robber or rat the sticks and that's
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 5: your help defender. Maybe a linebacker is like kind of
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 5: a low hole player, and you're able to really just
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 5: bailed your entire technique off of the fact that you
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 5: have this support in the middle of the field, and
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 5: it goes a long way.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: I haven't heard that too, guys saying so many times,
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: or just I knew where my help was and it
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: allowed me to take a chance or to jump something
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: because they knew I had help over the top or
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: whatever it might be.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: You know. And getting back to what everyone was talking about,
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: the game planning and the deep dive that the Patriots
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: do on their opponent. It even like it gets down
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: to like Bill standing up in front of the room
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: and saying, Okay, so and so's offensive coordinates. This guy
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: he started at this college, they ran this they you know,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: he learned under this guy. These are the tendencies these
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: are you know, like he'll do that, he'll do deep
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: dives on their coaches. Yeah, so, like you get an
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: idea of like who you're going up against as a coach. Uh,
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: and you know, and then you know, I've heard it
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: from so many players. How Bill just makes it easy
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: to understand. You know, he's just he's a great teacher.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: He's able to just get it down to this is
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: what you need to know, This is all you need
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: to know. You know, just do your job.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: I saw Michael Lombardi, I think, wrote a thing today
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 3: with a little bit about Jim Brown and just talked
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: about when Bill got to Cleveland, the importance that the
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: history of Jim Brown and the franchise and everything, and
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 3: you know, using that, I know, when they played there
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 3: in Cleveland, what a couple of years ago that they
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: all stopped at the Jim Brown status.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: Year last year they did it again.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: They're all, they're all in it. But you know, I
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: think it's it's just it's not only like the schematic
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: parts of it, you know, like all right, this is
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 3: the offensive, but just the appreciation of the history of
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: the game, and you know, the trends that are that
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: are coming, and you know, I just I I hope
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: he can get a little bit ahead of the curve
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: this year. It feels like we've been a little behind it.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's say Sander says a longtime listener from Munich, Germany.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: I'd like to hear your thoughts on Taekwon's roll next
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: season as a second round pick. I believe it's time
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: for him to step up. And also, will any of
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: you get the chance to travel to Germany with the
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: team this season? Yeah, I think we lost.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 5: Two of us.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, coming, I hope. So I got to go. I'm
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 3: ready to go.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: We should be there in Frankfurt, though not in Munich,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: and we'll be doing the show live from a pub
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: of choice.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: Do we drink in that public choice?
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll see a little loose. Yeah, it'll be six
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: in the evening there, a little different, you know, beating dinner. Yeah,
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: so yeah, we we're looking forward to it.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 3: As for Thornton, you know, just get him, get him
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: out on the field, let him you know, I just
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: want to see him out there consistently and you know,
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: he doesn't have to set anything on fire over the
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: next few weeks with OTAs or you know, if he
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 3: had a trainings and catch down the field, great, I'm
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: not going to be mad about it. But I just
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: want to see him out there and in the mix
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: and consistently working with the top offense. And if that's
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: the case for you know, pre training camp, I think
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: he'll be in a good spot. Maybe he looks a
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: little thicker. That'd be nice, that'd be nice.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: I think from that one play it was home and
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: someone was trying to bring him down and he got hurt.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: After that, he was just not the same.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: What was like he was like coming into like Wambocks somebody.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 5: It was like, what, Yeah, I'm really interested to see
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 5: how Bill O'Brien uses him, and I you know, we've
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 5: all kind of all this film. Junkie has gone back
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 5: a little bit and looked at like James and Williams
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 5: will Fuller even like with the Texans, and how he
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 5: uses that kind of speed and being able to scheme
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 5: him away from contact, whether it's bringing him in motion,
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 5: running him out of like a you know, a stack,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 5: or a bunch of alignments where he's off the line
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 5: of scrimmage, playing him in the slot, like whatever you
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 5: can do to get him away from press coverage. You know,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 5: his ceiling as a player is going to come down
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 5: to can he beat press coverage on the outside by himself.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 5: If he can do that, then he's going to be
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 5: a thousand yard receiver and a great great Patriot. If
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 5: he can only do the things that are schemed for,
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 5: then he might not be that good. But at least
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 5: he'll be somebody that they can play and rely on
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 5: as a deep threat, and that's worth it as well.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 5: So that's what I think the baseline to me is
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 5: that if Bill O'Brien can figure out ways to just
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 5: basically create foot races for him, so it's not about, oh,
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 5: I had to take my one hundred and eighty pounds
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 5: soaking wet and run through this physical corner and maybe
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 5: it's something that gives him a little bit of a
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 5: head start.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: How do you do that? How do you give Taekwon
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: space so that it is just a foot race and
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: then also make it so that Mac has the time
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: to get him. Yeah.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 5: I mean there's a couple a bunch of different ways,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 5: but I think that the two most common that you
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 5: see are either motion like Tyrak Hill, they use motion.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 5: They just bring him across the formation and then he
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 5: comes out the other side running a route, so he's
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 5: not getting the ball on like a jet sweep, right,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 5: he's running that motion, but then he's continuing up the
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 5: field on the route that that's like the Tyreek Hill. Uh,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 5: Mike McDaniel, little thing that they do that that really
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 5: got hot all over the place.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 4: Last year.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 5: Once they started doing that in Miami, really in Week
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 5: one against the Patriots, it became contagious. The entire league
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 5: started putting that in. And then the other thing is
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 5: is with stacks and with bunches. So you put a guy,
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 5: you know, you put a point man in a stack,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 5: it's a two man stack, and you put Devonte Parker
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 5: in front of him, and then you put Taekwon behind
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 5: Devontae Parker and it creates that natural rub that you
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 5: can't get hands on him right away because Devonte Parker
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 5: is standing.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 4: In your way.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 5: So I think that those are the ways that you
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 5: can go about doing it.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 5: I'm sure there's a million other ways that they know
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 5: that I don't, but like, those are the simple ways
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 5: about doing it, and that's what you see a lot
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 5: with a lot of other just straight line, fast guys.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 5: You know, I think Hill's kind of his own thing,
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 5: but even somebody like at Jamison Williams at Alabama, they
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 5: could play him in the slot. They play them out.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 5: Why they play them in motion, They play them in
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 5: bunch formations and stacks. So just moving them around, getting
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 5: them away from contact, I think it can help you
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 5: no matter what like even if he's just taking the
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 5: top off and it's drawing coverage down the field to
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 5: open up space for other people, maybe the stats won't
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 5: necessarily be there, but the impact, Like when you watch
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 5: the Old All twenty two and I pull that up
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 5: and I can see, Okay, you know, two guys have
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 5: to go with Taekwon because the safety over the top
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 5: has to run with him otherwise he's gonna be open.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 5: Then you know, those are the types of things that
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 5: open it up.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: Let's see Billy Wrights in that says is that his name?
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: I guess so he says he was original subscriber to
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: PFW back in nineteen ninety five. That's right, lived in
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: Jersey at the time. Also season ticket holder with a
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: couple of SOUTHI friends during the eighty seven to ninety
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: three years, a Badge of Honor years. Yeah, we're talking
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: about that. When I saw Rolling Stones in Van Halen,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: Henry Paul, I guess was the band that opened. He
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: says they were the Leader of the Outlaw, So they
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: played a bunch of Outlaw songs. Saw them open for
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: Sticks in nineteen eighty at Rutgers Athletics Center. I thought
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: they were better than sticks not super optimistic on this season.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: Six and eleven is my prediction. My favorite of those
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: season tickets. Okay, then he goes back to the season tickets.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: I thought he was going to talk about this year's team.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 5: Six and eleven.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I guess he had a lot of good
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: times back then. According to this email, Moonshine clam.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: Bakes for the for the Patriots.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, back the back then.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 5: You know, some of the tailgates are pretty crazy. Like
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 5: you walk through the parking lot on a game day
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 5: into the stadium and you're like, wow, you guys really
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 5: went you know, got smokers out there, like whatever I
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 5: tell you.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: Like when I was, you know, in California and if
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 3: i'd fly back once a year for a game like beef,
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 3: but I had as much as much about the tailgate
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: and like the pre and you know, in the game,
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 3: it's like your tense and you know you don't really
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 3: enjoy it all that much until it's over. But I
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 3: don't know, it's just that that was what I think
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: I missed most about it all, is like we obviously
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 3: get our fat I still I.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: Don't understand the people who just get so blackout drunk.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: I don't you don't even remember the game. No, that's ridiculous.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 3: That was me in twenty fourteen in San Diego and
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: there were two guys sitting next to me and I
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: where to god, it's fourth quarter, good game. I mean,
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 3: that was a great game for Patriots and they are
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: just still loading up. I mean I couldn't. I couldn't.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: There's a game going on. You even't even known. I
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 3: don't know if they would have remembered it, but no,
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 3: I was always said, get after it to the tailgate
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 3: and then get into the stadium and let it ride
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 3: and you just watch the game, you know, like that's.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 5: Thirteen against Denver, the comeback here. Yeah. It was my
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 5: twenty first birthday and my my uncle is the one
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 5: that always took me to Patriots games. His whole group
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 5: has season tickets and they have one friend and it's like,
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 5: you know, you don't go drink for drink with this
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 5: one friend because the guy's a tank, right And I here,
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 5: I was like coming back from college for Christmas break,
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 5: and I thought that I was, you know, tough. Too
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 5: many Irish car bombs.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 3: And I don't I come back as far as you
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 3: know that I.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 5: Remember like bits and pieces, But I think it's more
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 5: because I've seen the game like on you know, highlights
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 5: and stuff since, and it was me actually remembering that
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 5: in the moment, and that that was pretty much like
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 5: the last time I was a fan, Like that was
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 5: like one of the last times that I could you know,
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 5: I went right into reporting on football after that, so
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 5: it was one of the last times that I was
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 5: like a true fan.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if I once I I'm done here,
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: if I'll go to football games. I'm not sure. Small Yeah,
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: I think it would.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 5: It would be fun to go to a Patriots game
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 5: and and tailgate and like do the whole because I
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 5: grew up doing that, so it would that would be
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 5: fun to be able to do that.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 3: You do not have to write something about the game.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if I told you ever,
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: but I used to have season tickets at you know,
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: end of eighties, early nineties, and we had four tickets
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: for five of us yea, and the team got so
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: bad that we would argue each week whose turn it
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: was not to go. Oh no, no, I went last week.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah I don't. I don't need to go.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 5: You know, I was never a problem in mind.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was. You know, I was at that
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: preseason game where Tippet got hurt or the pet got hurt,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: Garon Varis got hurt. They carried them all off the
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: field and I think they won one game that year.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: It was just awful, those ones, you know.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 3: As that video I did in high school though, which
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 3: was the ninety one Patriots. Then we shot a video
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: at the tailgate. But it's the same thing. There's there's bands,
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 3: there's just people having a great time. And this is
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 3: like a one or two win oh yeah season, it
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 3: didn't really matter. And now it's like you have expectations.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, back in the day too. You know, my uncle
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 5: is older now, so they don't quite do it as
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 5: as But one o'clock kickoff, we were there eight eight thirty,
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 5: like you know, and we'd have breakfast and lunch like
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 5: they would make like the breakfast sandwiches on the grill and.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 3: Then we'd fire out.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 4: Okay, now it's lunch.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I fire up the girl a couple hours later,
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 5: right before we went into the stadium and have burgers
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 5: and dogs.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: I wonder how the Bill's new stadium will affect their tailgating,
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: you know, they're building it in the same property, as
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: you know. I wonder if, like you know, the prices
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: will go up and it'll refine it. I don't know.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 3: Hopefully the love room for tables to light on fire,
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 3: hope jump through. Yeah, it's similar that I feel this
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 3: way about the old Draft too. Like the old Draft
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 3: I used to love of, like the weekend, Saturday, all day, Sunday,
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 3: all day, same thing, breakfast, lunch, dinner, sitting in front
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 3: of the TV, watching the draft all day. It's awesome.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 5: It was.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: It's all different now mixed.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 3: I miss Reckedperhead. It's so funny when games are going on,
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 3: like during the show and you're like, oh my god, that.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 5: Could be a little James Robins knee.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 3: He just he always just ran like he was shot
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 3: out of a cannon, like he just it's just no fear,
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 3: like just boom.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: Clay I writes in Hello everyone, Hello Marine, Hello class.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: Hope all is good with you, guys. I was just
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: curious if you think that Johnny Lumpkin works out, there's
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 2: a good chance they released Scotty Washington. Do you believe
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: they made any tight ends?
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 10: Uh?
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: Have any tight ends? And during that player carousel that
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: they have a trainer.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 5: Scotty deep dive Scotty Washington was was on the practice
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 5: squad last year, so he wasn't on the fifty three.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 3: But Lumpkin's got his work.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 5: I don't I don't mind. Lumpkin block guy, somebody that
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 5: can actually block. Is Is he the best locking tight
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 5: end on the roster?
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 3: Maybe?
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 5: Body type wise? Yeah, like I you know, we'll see
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 5: what his technique looks like. But two hundred and sixty
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 5: five pounds I've made the comparison to. Of course, now
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 5: I'm blaming on the name the guy from Alabama, Michael Williams.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 5: You know he's he's built exactly like Michael Williams uh
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 5: sixty six sixty seven, two sixty five. Basically like a
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 5: slim down tackle. Hey, he can't catch the ball, well,
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 5: he can catch it, but he's not gonna be an
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 5: impact player in the passing game at all. But look,
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 5: when it's third and one and you need a yard
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 5: and you're gonna you want to try to to run
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 5: it down somebody's throat. Is is Mike Sicky gonna blow
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 5: somebody off the ball. Probably not, But Lumpkin is Johnny
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 5: lumpkin might there you go.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 3: It can't be a real name.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 5: I could see him making it.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 3: I could, Hey, if you have a certain set of skills.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 5: I think it's maybe more like a little Jordan situation
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 5: where he's on the practice squad and he's a game
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 5: day elevation in like certain packages, the.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 3: Game planned packages back around.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 5: But I think he's got a chance.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 3: We'll see uh.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: Brian in Rhode Island quick over under game for the
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty three season, Christian Gonzales interceptions two and A.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 3: Hey, I'm gonna say over, But I don't think he's
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 3: a bit I don't know. I have to see it. Yeah,
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 3: I don't. I don't blame Evan for going under. I
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 3: think that's uh, you know, that's a lot to ask
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 3: of him, especially like who's he going to be going
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 3: up against? The people people have be thrown at him. Probably,
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 3: so maybe he'll have a chance.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 5: But he could have a more than I anticipate, say
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 5: three or four, but.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think more than five. I
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 3: would be surprised.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 5: He just strikes me. He's a shadow corner, like he's
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 5: a guy that's just gonna take his guy out like
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 5: you're not gonna throw.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: That's that's the hope. Yeah, Matt Jones touchdowns twenty two
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: and a hey.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 5: Better be over.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 3: I hope the over Haven's got him a thirty I think.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But no PF thirty in today's game, that's not
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: like huge like I would. I hope he gets thirty.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 3: I mean that's you know, I don't want to say that,
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 3: that's like the bar of where.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 5: He don't know if he gets. If he gets thirty,
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 5: then we're talking about him getting forty in terms of
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 5: the contract like next year. Like you know, thirty is
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 5: a lot of touchdowns for a guy that went from
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 5: what was he in the teens, like twelve or something
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 5: like that last year. That's that's a big, big uptick.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: Stevenson catches forty and a hay.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 3: Undert I'm gonna go under with Evan on that one,
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 3: I think. I mean, I just I hope that they
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 3: break it up a little bit and take them off
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 3: his plate, don't don't. I mean, it's great he's a
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 3: threat to catch the ball, but I don't need him
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 3: to be Who was more of.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: A chance of making an impact here this year, Montgomery
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: or Robinson.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 3: I'll just say Montgomery because he was here.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 5: Eavan Fears was really bullish on time Montgomery on the
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 5: Six Rings podcast. He said that that's the third down back,
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 5: like if he's healthy and he's and he's you know,
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 5: in good shape and everything, that he was the guy
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 5: last summer that they they had big plans I think
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 5: for him until he got her in the year. And
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 5: I would think that'd be great for Remandre. Like, I
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 5: think it really started to show in the last half
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 5: of the season how dependent the offense was on Remandre
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 5: making something happen. And I think that'd be huge yep
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 5: yep uh.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: And finally Thornton catches fifty and a hey, fifty under under.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 3: But I mean I think i'd be I'd be thrilled
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 3: if he got like forty.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 5: I mean, if it gets like thirty five at like
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 5: eighteen yards per catch, then I think that that's that's
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 5: enough to say that he's a threat in that that
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 5: deep you don't do that with him.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 3: And then Juju, I think Juju would be the volume guy.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 3: You know, I think that that's the one that's you.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 5: Know, Jiju might catch a hundred if he is healthy.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: All Right, I'll throw one in here. Celtics points tonight,
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: don't let them win tonight over under one seventeen.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go under on that one. Fred with my
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 3: Celtics savvy.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 5: Don't don't let them win tonight, that's what they're all saying.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: And don't let them win tonight, and then they're gonna
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: do something thing that no one in the NBA has
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: ever done before.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 5: So we were talking, we were was this on the
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 5: air off there, We're talking about the four socks. But yeah,
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 5: So the thing is is, like Kevin Malar said, don't
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 5: let us win tonight because tomorrow night we have Pedro
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 5: going and then the next night we have Shilling going.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 5: So the Red Sox knew that they had the pitching
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 5: advantage if they had just they just had to win
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 5: Game four and then they could have the The Celtics
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 5: don't have a pitching advantage equivalent because they can't they.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 3: Don't even have a home right home court.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 5: So that's what I was saying, like, if we.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: Win this game, then we're gonna use Robert Williams correctly
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: for the rest of the series.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 5: But if they win tonight in all seriousness and they
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 5: really home court mattered, like they weren't four and five
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 5: at the Garden, they actually won home court. Then they
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 5: would be going back to Game six against Miami, and
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 5: then at that point the pressures on the heat and
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 5: you do never know, and then Game seven would be
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 5: back here. But the home court doesn't matter. So winning
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 5: tonight really doesn't get you anywhere.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the fact that the Celtics are down
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: three to zero and the Lakers got swept tells you
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: the NBA ain't fixed, you know, because it was fixed,
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 2: it would be Celtics Lakers.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, there's a you know a little bit
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 5: of that going on obviously with the NHL too, Like
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 5: the Pants it's probably gonna be Panthers Vegas. And it's
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 5: just not you know, it's not an Original six matchup.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 5: It's no Connor McDavid, Like, it's just really not a
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 5: matchup that And both teams play great hockey like they
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 5: play they're great teams and they play the sport the
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 5: right way. But this is gonna be one of the
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 5: least watched Stanley Cup in NBA finals.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: Red Sox, Yeah, let's see Aaron is in Nashville. Any
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: plans to go live full time video and YouTube instead
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: of just Thursdays. I like being able to watch and
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: I can pause and go back in the stream if
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: I need to for any reason. There are talks about it. Yeah,
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: it's just a bad matter of manpower. But I think
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: if we can get the crew together, we might go
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: full time video.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 3: For three shows and during yeah, all the time video.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: Just make the commitment.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 3: People have spoken they want more.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess our roster watch video. I keep I
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 5: keep looking. It's up to eleven K. Now, thank you
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 5: for everybody for watching that. But cutting edge stuff, that's
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 5: what we're talking about.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, but we need over one hundred k. That's
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: what we're looking for.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 5: It's Dallas Cowboys numbers.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know we should be able to do that,
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Dak Piston Porter k.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean whatever they do turns the goals. It's
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: unbeltlet it.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 3: Cowboys fans are easy, easy sell. I think our fans
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 3: a little more discerning.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: You know, speaking of like making money. Just the cowboys
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: and that's why you know Jerry Jones, like he comes
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 2: from oil, you know, that's where he comes from. So
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: but like it's every last dollar for him too. I
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: mean you know, Uh, it's it's just it's just never enough.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: And so like he's this big proponent of the Thursday
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: game and the flexing and all that stuff, and I
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: just don't get it. I don't get it.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 3: It's such a heavyweight. I mean, I can't believe what
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 3: you said about him having a piece of concessions yeah raiders.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: Well also he owns the concessions of the Yankees Yankee Stadium.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: He owns Legends, which is a concession company. Wow.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well he's doing it right. I mean it's funny
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 3: because in some ways I feel like, as a you know,
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 3: a football player, I would I don't want to impressed
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 3: like it just a guy who was like, made a
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 3: lot of money outside of football, and you know he
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 3: loves football. But I don't know there's something about that
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 3: for me as somebody who's like, Wow, this guy is successful.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 3: He's really made it work in this world. And then
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 3: you know, like you said, with the Davis, it's like,
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 3: well they owned the team, but what have they done?
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 5: Like, you know, I don't know what the Cowboys done.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 5: Right when a super century.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: Well, okay, we're gonna wrap up a little early today. Yeah,
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: you know, I think it's time to go. I hope
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 2: people catch up with the part of the show that
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: we were off air afterwards.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 3: Perhaps one of the questions just to up before you
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 3: wrap up. It's just Thursday. We don't know what time
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 3: practice is going to be, per I think maybe in
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 3: the morning, so I don't know if that might affect
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 3: the showtime or anything.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: If we'll well practice in the morning, that's perfect. Yeah,
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: and then you come off the field and we talk
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: about it. Yeah.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 5: I think the practice is tentatively eleven thirty. Oh, starting
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 5: at eleven thirty, stay said.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, so then maybe we'll move the show till, you know,
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: to two o'clock and then everything will domino effect, you know,
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 2: because there's no sense doing a show while they're practicing. Now,
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: we gotta be out there because we got to be
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: out there, all right. But well, we'll give you an update.
• 1:51:30
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• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: you know what's going on when we know what's going on.
• 1:51:36
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• 1:51:38
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