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#288: Are You Scared? (2006) - Tubi or Not to Be · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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Hello. What's your least favorite scary
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movie? Are you scared?
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What's gonna? What's your least favorite scary
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movie? The podcasts where we talk about
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The good, the bad, the Ugly, Andy Absurd, and all of our
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favorite. And least favorite?
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Scary movies. Because we believe every horror
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movie rifely has its fan base even.
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or Not to be where we go to the free streaming services and find
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a hidden gem. That's right.
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Did we find one this week? I guess we'll find out.
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Yeah. And you know what?
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We're going to dive right in because this is a bonus episode.
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I guess I have a mini announcement that I don't know
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how to make schedules anymore because I put Pearl as
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premiering on the 20th. And to be or not to be
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premiering on the 24th, that's obviously wrong because the 20th
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is a Sunday and we do TV or not to be on Sundays.
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Yeah, it's OK. You know, it's a little slip up.
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As long as you know the movies that we're talking about, that's
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really all that matters. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So this month was my pick, Yeah, but it's actually one that we
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had both collectively agreed to save on our TBQ.
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I was sitting there for a bit. Yeah, it's called Are You
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Scared? So I got a little bit of
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information. Released September 12th, 2006.
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Obviously it's on TV. Written by Ellis Walker and Andy
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Hurst. Directed by Andy Hurst.
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No music department. Is there no music at all in this
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movie? I don't think there is.
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I didn't even think about. That I think there's like a
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couple moments of like a synthesizer just going.
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Wait, no, no, no, no, no, no. There there is some music.
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I remember I just sounded very stock music.
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The yeah and yeah, that's definitely what it.
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Was special effects. Makeup was done by Tom Devlin,
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starring Alethia Kucher as Kelly, Aaron Consalvey as
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Sherry, Brad Ashton as Brandon, Carly Avers as Laura, Kareem
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Marbury as Jason Soren. Bowie is Dylan, Eric Francis is
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Detective Jay Bowman, Jennifer Koza James a Special Agent,
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Christine Robeson and Brent Fiddler as Shadow Man.
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What was that the name of the game?
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Yep, shadow man. Wow.
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That's not. That's kind of cool.
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It's a cool name. It would be cooler if he was in
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the shadows more. Yeah, we see his face like right
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from the get go. All right, time for our favorite
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game budget or bug Ted? Man bug Ted.
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I don't have financial information.
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On that, yeah, there's no way. But I mean, it's you just take
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one look at it, you can tell they they didn't have a lot of
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money. Guess what, I do have an IMDb
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score. OK, 3.1.
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Wow, I'm surprised it's that well.
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Really, I am too. I don't think it's a three.
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I don't think it's that bad. It's it's not a great movie, but
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it's not a three. And I'm sure we'll talk about it
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more in detail, but I do also need to point out there is a
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sequel to this and it has a lower rating.
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Oh really? Yeah.
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Oh, man. Whoa, I still.
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Want to watch it? I do too.
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I thought that there would be improvement, but I guess not.
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OK, I have a theme from 2006 horror movies.
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OK, what are you afraid of? So the first movie is Snakes on
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a Plane and the fear of snakes is called a videophobia.
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Did you look up all the phobias for all these?
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Cool. We're getting a little bit of a
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little bit of a, you know, science, psychology.
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Yeah. OK Snakes on a Plane released
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August 18th, 2006. Budget of 33 million, Worldwide
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gross of 62 million. IMDb score 5.5.
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God damn that's crazy. That's a weird movie.
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I've not actually ever seen it. I, I don't think I've seen it
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the right way. I've seen it on cable and I know
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that there's a lot of F bombs because we have.
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Yeah, yeah, I'm not seeing it the right way.
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OK, yeah, second movie, Dark ride.
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Man, I remember that. Movie.
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Yeah, it was a pretty. Good one it is.
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Fear of the dark is called Nicotophobia.
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Released October 20th, 2006. I don't have a budget but it
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made 321,000 and a 4.6 out of 10.
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Yeah, I liked it. I remember we watched that like
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really early in our relationship together.
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Yeah, it was one of those. Like for several years they did
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like the 8 scariest movies or 8 movies that will haunt you or I
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forget exactly what it was called but that was one of them.
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Yeah, and I that's one I watched a long time ago too.
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I was a kid from Sandlit the. Yeah, chubby kid.
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Yeah. What's his name?
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I don't know. I I can't.
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Oh my God that's gonna kill me now cuz I.
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Chunks what's? Really.
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No. Chunky.
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No Chuggly. It's not.
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He's chuggly. OK, OK, Third maybe.
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Yeah. The Wicker Man.
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OK, what's the fear here? Fear of bees is called Melissa
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phobia. Fear of bees.
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Oh oh God, the bees. Yeah, yeah, right, Because this
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is the Nick Cage 1 so. Oh yeah, that's right, that's
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right. At the release September 1st,
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2006 Budget of 40 million worldwide Girls is 38 million.
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IMDb 3.8 out of 10. 3.8. Yeah.
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I've never seen that. I kind of want to, just because
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it seems like it'd be an experience, you know?
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Yeah, I feel like I like, I wouldn't even think of it as a
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remake honestly at that point, because I obviously have a lot
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of love for the original so. The original was pretty good,
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yeah. All right, I've got 2 tag lines.
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1 is A tag line that's actually on the poster, and the other is
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what somebody submitted to the tagline section of IMDb.
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You can do that. You can submit your own.
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Yeah. What?
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Have we been reading false tag lines this whole time?
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That's why I won't. That's why I won't pull trivia
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from the IMDb trivia section. OK, yeah, I just didn't think
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you'd do that for tag lines. So the one on the poster is the
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last game you'll ever play? It's not even really a game.
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The 10 God, we're going to have to talk about that.
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Yeah. The one that the user submitted
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after waking up in an abandoned factory. 6 kidnapped teens
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misspelled turns. Turns 6 Kidnapped turns.
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Realize they are contestants on a reality show called Are You
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Scared? There's a lot.
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There's a lot to unpack with that.
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That's also the exact word for word description of the movie on
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IMDb. And I was thinking that these
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were all teens, they're in their 20s.
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Yeah. Wait, can.
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So does it specify if it's if it's user written or did you
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gather that from turn? I just assumed.
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OK. I just assumed or maybe the
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director submitted it and didn't really understand.
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Like maybe mix up tagline with logline.
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Yeah. See, I think that that's like
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probably what was put on the back of the DVD.
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Yeah, I mean, and that's what it like pulls up on TV also.
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So turns OK, we don't do really any more background information
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with our bonus episodes, so we're just going to dive right
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into our good, bad, ugly, and absurd.
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You got to 1st tell us why you picked this movie.
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I mean, it's a group of strangers trapped in a place.
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Yeah, a group of turns trapped in a place playing a game that
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can kill them. I there is not no more dressy
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coded movie out there. I think that I could find
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plenty, but this is a very dressy coded movie.
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Yeah, I like it too. I love that whole premise.
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Yeah, yeah. And I, it's entirely possible.
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We'll watch the second one later tonight even.
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We could. We could might.
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Who's gonna stop us a bunch of turns?
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I feel like it turns, it's like AI.
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Feel like it's a type of bird and I don't know why I.
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Think that I'm I'm feeling it as like a swear to like interns.
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No, it's it's a type of sea bird, OK, known for its slender
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bill build, pointed bill and forked tail.
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That's a completely different. Movie.
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I wanna watch that movie. I wanna see that movie too Yeah
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I wanna see the Turn edition OK OK all right goodbye that will
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be in absurd yes I kick it off right yes OK well, like I said I
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the premise I love the idea of it you know like game shows I
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like that the idea of it being like a live game show that
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people watch that always gets me you know that that's such like
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an easy sell for me when it when.
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It comes to. Movies, so it's fun, and I also
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like the idea of it playing on each person's individual fears.
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Mm hmm. That they volunteered.
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Yeah, which? I always feel like if I was on a
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show like, you know, Amazing Race, Fear Factor, whatever, I
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would lie about what scares me. I thought that the entire time,
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like you could easily, but like, do they can they see through the
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bullshit and realize that you're just kind of like not being
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honest, you know? And then also, what happens if
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somebody else lies about their fear, but it happens to be your
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fear, so you have to go through it anyway?
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I feel like a cool idea would be to like, everybody says a fear.
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But it gets mixed to like a different person, you know?
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I guess it's not really personalized to you anymore, but
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whatever. That's really all the good
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things I have to say about this movie, you know?
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Yeah, no, I, I like the concept that it's a reality show that
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people sign up for more in a second on that because it makes
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no sense. But I, I feel like this movie,
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it's for the people that watch Saw for the trap plot and only
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the trap plot. Yeah.
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And they're like, what traps are we going to do?
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Does it make any sense? How would this logistically work
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in the real world? Doesn't matter.
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And. They sold this, like, all right,
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we'll make a movie about traps too, and like, perfect.
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Whatever. And like, all right, so like,
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here's the thing. Like, I don't care about that.
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Just give me traps. Yeah.
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Like, don't give me any of the bullshit story that's weighing
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it down. Give me traps.
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Yes, that's that's probably how that meeting went.
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Yeah, They were like, give me trap ideas.
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And then we'll just have the actors improv the in between.
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Like when we started up this movie, Talia, like kind of
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looked back at us like this doesn't feel like a Saw movie.
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Like she was like seems like Saw but isn't Saw.
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Yeah, not quite it. OK, what's your bad?
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The thing that gets me the most is it doesn't deliver on the
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game show aspect of the movie. They build it up.
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It's like, hey, it's a game show and then there's no game aspect
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to it. It's basically just I gathered
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you here, you're going to die. Again, this is somebody that
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watched Saw for the chat plot, ignored the cop plot.
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They just heard another game has started and they're like
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perfect. That's what we're going to work
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with. So the detectives say things
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like another game has started, which when you're talking about
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a psychopath, like, just murdering people.
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Yeah. But then everybody else in this
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universe sees the game as like an actual reality TV game show
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that you apply for and everything.
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That I mean, when you think about this movie for a second,
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it starts to. Crumble because it immediately
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falls. In like, OK, so this is already
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an existing game show. People go through this show.
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Is this like a guy? See, The thing is like you
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couldn't make it like this was a guy playing on that.
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Like I got you here under the guise of it being a game show,
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that show. But this is actually my way of
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getting here to kill you. But no, like, it's very much
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like, no, this is the game show. This is.
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The show people will TuneIn for this shit but like there's no
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game, there's nothing. It's just I don't know.
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It Yeah, like, it opens on that, that that opening with the one
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girl who was, if she completed her task, she would win a
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modeling contract. I wanted to see more of like,
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the irony of that kind of stuff. But instead it seems like they
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just win money. I don't know.
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I'm so confused. I mean, people are dying, Yeah.
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These are not fake deaths. So that's not flying on TV.
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And then Shadow Man says that he's been planning this for two
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years, which, honestly, like, this is an elaborate murder plot
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for only two years worth of planning.
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Yeah, it's really bad. How many seasons of Are you
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scared? Has there been that enough
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people are like I'm applying to this?
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Yeah, I know. I don't.
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It doesn't make any fucking sense when you think about.
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It I think that Are You scared exists in the same future as the
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future they go to in Hot dub time machine too.
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Like that's what you watch when Choosy Doozy isn't.
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Oh, yeah, You know, it would actually fit in that lineup of
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programming, right? Yeah.
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Perfectly like you watch Choosy Doozy and then like half an hour
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later when it was like adult TV time.
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Are you scared? I'm.
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Sorry, the only things that Adam Scott is like, yeah, you know,
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mostly like people like to watch like children die and stuff like
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that, you know? Building explosion.
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Abandoned baby. Yeah, yeah.
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You know what, it fits in perfectly.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I mean other than that, like I I also feel like it like it tried
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to be saw. It really.
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Did it. It had other things going for it
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and it didn't lean into any of the things that it could have
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been differently. And that's it drives me
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absolutely crazy because like, you had this potential here with
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the premise, the setup and everything.
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You could have had an interesting movie, but you
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wanted to be saw too badly and then you abandoned all that
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stuff for that. They abandoned all of the
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characters in this. Yeah, like Laura, I don't
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understand what her game was. We don't actually ever find out
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what really happened to her. The cops die for no reason.
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Yeah, man, I don't know. And I mean this.
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This is not. Also this is a well known game
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show, well enough that multiple people are applying for it but
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also the SWAT team is annoyed at the detective like baby.
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Cry wolf, Mr. Cry Wolf over here, but.
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It's also not crying wolf like you guys found the body.
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Yeah, I mean, this could very well be an active, like, crime
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scene. Like maybe there is a dangerous
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person in here. People have died here.
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Like, I need backup, You know what I mean?
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Yeah, it's not that outlandish. You're like a motherfucker cried
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wolf over here again. That's what they say to him.
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Like you, cried wolf. Yeah, they, yeah, they keep
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saying that he cried wolf as he's like, all right, we need to
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get like CSI in here to, you know, tape off this murder
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scene. Man, I think this is just a this
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isn't Sawville, this is Bladeville or Knife Phil.
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This. Don't like that?
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Yeah. You know, like where the cops
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don't really give a shit anymore.
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They're just. Jaded at this point.
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This is this is where cops that couldn't hack it in Sawville.
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This is the sister city in Sawville.
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Yeah. OK, what's your bad?
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Oh no, I thought I was just chiming in with you the whole
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way with that because yeah, what's your ugly?
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The fake effects that we have here, we get some really, really
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bad explosions and fake blood and stuff like that and fire.
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Are you telling me that you didn't like the Ms. Paint effect
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of a drill going into Soren Bowie, one time contributor to
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cracked.com. Forehead.
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Say what? You know this person.
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Yes, I was like, why does this name sound so familiar?
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And then I pulled him up on IMDb.
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Yeah, he used to be a pretty regular guest contributor to
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crack.com. Like a rider.
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I'm surprised you actually remember that.
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There was one time where like I would regularly check
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crack.com's like feed to see what have been posted that day.
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It's not so great anymore, but. What's your ugly?
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I guess just the like the weird way they talk about the domestic
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violence situation. With Jenny and.
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Her mom and the shadow man. Yeah.
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Like I just. I don't know.
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I don't even fully they they didn't give us enough time to
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unpack that. Yeah.
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Like, they never actually even fully said they tiptoed around
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it. Yeah.
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And like, you're doing a movie where you're like burning
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people's faces off and exploding them, like.
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We can touch on some. Yeah, just say, hey, you beat
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the shit out of me and it was either one day going to be like
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you killing me or us killing you.
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Like, I don't know, it was just. It's weird.
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Yeah. Yeah, it's an important topic
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and I feel like dancing around it.
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They weren't doing much with it. Yeah.
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But again, this movie was all trap bot.
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Yeah, exactly. Yeah, sort of.
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All right, so absurd's. Absurd.
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OK, so one of the things is the store where the guy got the
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glass from and it also acts as like a specialty drill store
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where you can special order drills.
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But also the guy just like fucking gave him the address and
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all of his personal information he's.
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Thinking about this shit criminal.
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He like leaves the shit behind. Like I, I know that's a thing in
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SAW, but like John Kramer was smart enough to make it non
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traceable and he gave some aliases and shit and this guy's
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like, here's my home address, here is my legal name, Social
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Security number, all that shit. It's just like, it's so bad.
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It's like he wanted to be caught.
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I love that the specialty shop don't exactly know what they
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specialize in because it seems to both be acrylic bases that
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can withhold chemicals without burning and also support an
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electrical system running underneath it.
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And they can also tie drills to little like Lego race car
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tracks. It's a very race car tracks.
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It's a very niche business. Yeah, yeah, they have a very
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specific. Client.
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Maybe that's why he felt comfortable giving out his name
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and address because he was like, I'm keeping this guy in
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business. Yeah, you know what?
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He's probably the only. Customer yeah, like that guy
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actually, it's not a business. He's just the accomplice.
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But the cop, like, wannabe Wahlberg came in and he just
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assumed this guy was like a businessman.
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And he goes, yeah. That guy does wannabe Wahlberg.
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Business. The only other episode thing I
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have is when you again think about the story this guy.
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So you're telling me this guy created this nationally loved
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game show just to get revenge on his daughter?
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Yeah. And that's like the build up to
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it. It's like the trapper there and
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get her there knowing that one day she will 100% send in an
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audition tape. Yeah.
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And on top of that, like she makes again, lie better about
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what you're afraid of. And she's like, I'm afraid
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somebody will discover my secret.
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How's that going to be used against her if she doesn't say
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what her secret is? That really only works if the
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man in charge of the game, the shadow man, knows what her
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secret is already. Because I.
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Guess so. Totally me.
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Like yeah, I'm the secret for sure.
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And then she's like, no, it's not.
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She's like, no, I just peed my pants at Jennifer's sleepover.
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It's really embarrassing. Yeah.
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She's like oh shit, OK, what's your absurd?
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Yeah, no, I was gonna say that the man with the specialty
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orders, like just so fucking casual about it.
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And I I. I don't know man, this movie is
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just so fucking weird. I also like I have so any
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questions about how that drill trap worked because those drills
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didn't seem like stable enough on the tracks they were on like
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to get the right kind of torque to get into through a skull.
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Also why did they have the little light things around their
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heads? I don't.
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Know, I thought it was going to be like shocking them, but no,
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it's just like, I don't know, it looks cool, you know, just like
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some flair, yeah. Yeah, I what was and what was
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Laura's game? Which one?
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What? What happened?
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She's afraid of germs. Yeah.
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And she walks into a room, there's an empty container and a
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container full of rats. And then he says the human body
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has 12 pints of blood. Weird.
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John Kramer says 10. And then she's just all of a
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sudden bleeding out from a rat. I don't, I don't know what she
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was meant to be doing. I don't know, The only thing I
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really noticed is like I was walking in there and the guy had
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like a family, one of those like fly traps over the jars was
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like, wow, this guy like why did he do that?
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Like, don't you want it to be extra disgusting and have like
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flies swarming the place? You know, and.
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Also like the what was his name? Jason.
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Jason, the first guy who does his trap when they're all in
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there. He's afraid of having surgery
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performed while he's awake, so he's got to use the anaesthesia
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to try and cut himself open. But he's got the anaesthesia so
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he doesn't have to feel it. But if he has too much, he'll
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fall asleep and then he won't feel it.
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Yeah, I'm so confused by what the main point was with this.
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I mean, realistically, that one right there, like saw to that
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scene where the guy's got a key in his eye, Great going to do
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that. Guy's going to cut himself open
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and he's going to have to do anaesthesia.
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It's gonna be gnarly. One minute, do it.
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I really don't. I don't, I don't.
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I just. This movie is you.
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You go, you're sick one day and you get on your couch and like,
21:37
I need me a comfort movie. So I'm going to pop in, Saw saw
21:41
two, saw two, and I accidentally drank a little bit too much
21:47
cough syrup and now what the fuck am I watching?
21:49
Yeah, that feels accurate. Yeah, you're watching Saw Two,
21:52
but in your mind it's all this other weird shit that's
21:55
happening. Yeah, and you're like drifting
21:56
in and out of sleep also, and things are a little bit weird.
22:00
And then you're like, oh man, I've got a great idea for a
22:02
movie and you're basically just writing down what you think
22:04
you're seeing. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
22:07
That's how you get this movie. Yeah.
22:09
OK. So what would you read it?
22:15
I'd give it 4 1/2, four and a half.
22:17
Yeah, it's not. I didn't hate watching it, but
22:21
like, it's just I it's one of those movies where, like, I just
22:24
see its weaknesses and they're so glaring, you know what I
22:27
mean? I think if it tried to set
22:29
itself apart from saw a little bit more, or lean a little bit
22:33
harder into the sawness of it, I don't know.
22:37
A I like it. I'm giving it a six.
22:42
OK, I don't think it's listen and no hate to the people that
22:46
made this movie. It's really hard to make a
22:47
movie. I applaud them for doing it.
22:50
It's kind of stupid, but in a way that just tickles my fancy
22:54
SO. I agree with that.
22:55
I mean, I can I'm flexible to move mine up, but like this is
22:59
one of those bad movies is like this is a fun one to watch.
23:02
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had. I wasn't mad while I was
23:05
watching it. I was confused a lot, yeah, but
23:07
I wasn't mad. This is a perfect movie they
23:09
just throw on and kind of like riff on.
23:11
It. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 4 1/2 is
23:14
like accurate objectively, but I still enjoy myself somewhat.
23:18
Well, we have a starting average of 5.25, so now it's time for us
23:21
to try and talk about this in a linear way.
23:23
Oh my God. All right, here we go.
23:27
All right, so we begin with a girl wandering down dark
23:31
hallway. She has a collar around her neck
23:34
a la Saw Three and I know some of these Saw movies came out
23:37
after this movie, but I still think it's important to.
23:41
What if saw borrow from this movie?
23:42
Right. Good idea.
23:45
And she's also, like, got chains behind her back.
23:47
She's told that to get her modeling contract, because this
23:51
is the new ANCM, she must hit first the red button and then
23:56
the green button. The red button is through a room
24:00
littered with broken glass on the floor, and she's barefoot,
24:03
but she does it. She goes and does it.
24:04
She has to hit the button with her nose because again, her
24:07
hands are chained behind her back.
24:09
Then she gets to the green button.
24:10
It's in the bottom of the tank. She just go ahead and ducks her
24:13
head in there. But that's not water, that's
24:16
acid. Salt too, yeah.
24:19
And yeah, she just, she does. I also, I don't know if you
24:23
noticed this but her contract was under there and it was
24:25
completely blank like all of the blinks were not filled in.
24:29
I'm going to have to correct you that's saw three.
24:32
Saw three. Oh my God, it is.
24:33
Saw three. I'm sorry. 2 is the house spot.
24:35
Yes, I'm so sorry. We cannot have that on this
24:38
show. We cannot undermine our own SAW
24:40
expertise like that. If it helps, I I am on a lot of
24:44
medication. It's not cough syrup, but I am
24:48
on a lot of medication. I'm going to get you a pen and
24:50
paper right now. Oh God, great ideas.
24:53
Yeah, this is a weird thing, though.
24:54
I just, I don't get like, like, I mean, everything in this movie
24:58
is like nobody can win. It's not.
25:00
It's like that point. It's like it's that plot point
25:03
of the waiter saw movies. Yeah, rigged against you.
25:06
I guess it did do that before. That was saw three.
25:08
Was it saw three? Yeah.
25:09
But when? When did Saw Three come out?
25:12
You know this is a very good question cuz the first saw was
25:15
in 2003 so. What was the movie that Yeah
25:20
fuck what was the movie that stole from Urban Legends 3?
25:24
Urban Legends 3 did the tanning bed scene before Final
25:27
Destination 3. So saw Saw Three came out in
25:31
2006, the same year as this. I want to know.
25:35
I want to know, did Ellis Walker and or Andy Hurst know anybody
25:40
that was on the crew? I think he was like getting pee
25:44
smell like details of like how the story is unfolding.
25:47
He's like, shit, OK, yeah, All right.
25:48
I'll do a little bit of that here.
25:50
Wait, acid face? Yeah, let's make it even more
25:52
meta. He uses the same props master
25:55
that made the props for Saw Three.
25:58
Yeah, and that's how he threw in the prop guy in this movie.
26:03
Perfect. Yes, there we.
26:04
Go yeah, that's a head cannon. Yeah, I like that head cannon.
26:08
OK, so now we are at the cops. The cops enter the warehouse.
26:14
They find Tara. Was her name the woman that just
26:17
said they find her corpse and. It's a skeleton at this point.
26:21
I feel like that's important to note because it's been a while.
26:23
Has it been a while or did the acid just melt her that much?
26:26
The rest of her was also a skeleton.
26:28
It wasn't just her face. OK so the detective looks around
26:33
and then a criminal profile like pops up.
26:37
S 4. Yep.
26:41
Before sophomore, they did it first.
26:44
And she introduces herself, and she's like, listen, you've been
26:48
after this killer for at least two years.
26:50
And he's like, yeah, but a new game is starting.
26:55
I don't understand it though. Like a new game is starting,
27:00
like all of the shit takes place in one, like everybody
27:03
participates in the same building, not one person at a
27:06
time. I don't.
27:06
Fuck, I don't. Understand this is where we get
27:09
the shadow man in full light so we can see all the burn marks on
27:12
his face and we can very quickly figure out he's doing this as an
27:14
act of revenge. Yeah, we are now greeted with
27:18
our crew that are going to be playing the game we have Brandon
27:21
first got wake up. He he finds, what's her name,
27:26
Kelly Kelly. He finds Kelly.
27:29
She's struggled to wake and there's like photos scattered on
27:31
the ground. We'd never come back to these
27:33
photos later. But they're like her childhood,
27:35
Yeah, photos or something. I guess it makes sense.
27:38
I guess it does make sense, but like, I don't know, I again, I
27:40
think it would have just been cool to have a ta ta ta.
27:43
Yeah, at the end. Yeah.
27:46
Then they hear some thudding sounds and they run into another
27:49
kid. This one's Jason.
27:51
He's like upset because he's like, did you guys cut me?
27:55
And they're like, what? No.
27:56
And he's like, well are you guys cut?
27:58
And they're like, what? No.
28:00
And he's like, why do I have this big old bandage on me like
28:02
I'm Sami Zayn on WWE Raw? Get my ribs.
28:05
Broken shit. Yeah.
28:07
I gotta let Bron Bron break my ribs some more.
28:11
Yeah, this guy, he's kind of like, he gave me some Texas
28:16
battle vibes. This movie was just begging for
28:19
Texas battle, but this is the same year's final destination.
28:22
He. Was busy he had he.
28:24
Had all the He had the task he had wrong turn 32, wrong turn 2.
28:29
He was having his year and. He, he was.
28:32
Like, all right, I wish I had time for you.
28:34
I'm scared but I don't. Maybe, maybe there's hope for.
28:39
Are you scared too? Dude, he could.
28:41
I would be. So happy.
28:43
I want to meet Texas Battle at a horror convention more than like
28:46
any other celebrity. And I know it'll never happen
28:48
because I don't think there's a ton of people out there going
28:50
give it up. Texas Battle.
28:52
I think you and I are the only people that are like active.
28:54
Fans of that, I request it every year when Adrian calls for like
28:59
guest requests for Scare Fest. I'm like Texas Battle.
29:02
Please. Yes.
29:03
Give us. OK.
29:05
So we now find two more people. This is just like finding
29:08
people. Yeah.
29:09
It's like, that's the whole opening of this movie.
29:11
So we're not layering shit like this.
29:13
This scene is finding the others.
29:16
Yeah, and the next two people are Dylan and Sherry or Cherie.
29:20
Cherie and they're twins. Yeah, and then they find Laura,
29:23
who is just the weigh in on the ground, knocked out.
29:27
She says, oh, don't worry, we'll call my mom.
29:29
She's a lawyer. There's no cell phone in her
29:31
bag. Just a dead rat.
29:33
Yeah, and they don't even address that.
29:35
And it's like, I don't think the guy planted that either.
29:37
I think she just had a dead rat in her bag.
29:39
Well, her cell phone was in the clear box at her game
29:42
eventually. No.
29:44
So maybe he did put a rat in there.
29:45
Yeah. Maybe the rat put it there.
29:47
Maybe so, yeah, like it's a rat tattoo a situation.
29:51
So this is where they here welcome to.
29:53
Are you scared? And I was like, oh shit, I did
29:55
apply to this reality game show that's super well known and very
29:59
obviously legal. And This is why we're just
30:02
showing up here. OK, cool.
30:03
Yeah, why did they not think of that?
30:05
They're like, yeah, I don't know.
30:06
I was just chilling in the house, smoking a blunt, drinking
30:09
the booze, and I just woke up here one day.
30:13
What the fuck? Smoking 40s and drinking blunts.
30:16
Drinking blunts and smoking 40s. Yeah, as you do as.
30:19
You do. And so they're like, well, we
30:22
just assumed we didn't get on because we never heard back.
30:26
And Laura's like, again, my mom's a lawyer.
30:28
We would have had to sign consent forms.
30:30
And then it's like, too bad. It's time for Jason to go to his
30:32
toast. I'm kind of sad we didn't get
30:34
like the this movie's version of the pig nap.
30:37
I know, you know, it could have been so much more fun.
30:39
Shadow Nap. Listen, are you scared too?
30:42
Is 12 minutes longer, so maybe we get pig napping.
30:46
Hell yeah. All right, man.
30:51
OK. Yeah.
30:52
So yeah, he's on the intercom. Yeah.
30:55
Gives the whole spiel about the show.
30:57
And they each have to face their own worst fear.
31:01
And Jason is the first step. Yeah, Kelly and Brandon are
31:05
talking as he's walking off to his place.
31:06
And Brandon's like, man, I'm really afraid of the dark.
31:10
What are you afraid of, Kelly? And she goes, none of your
31:12
business. I have a dark.
31:15
Secret. It wouldn't be a secret if I
31:17
told you. That's what everybody says.
31:20
That was our niece yesterday at our nephew's birthday party
31:24
talking to one of her friends that we're like why are you
31:26
going in that background? She's like cuz she's got a
31:28
secret. She's got a Tommy.
31:30
They had to be in a completely separate room from everybody
31:32
else to do secret time kids shit.
31:34
Yeah. So yeah, Jason goes in to a room
31:39
and he sees his audition tape played because Shadow Man said,
31:42
oh God, these dummies didn't even remember they applied for
31:44
this game. Let's remind them what they're
31:46
scared of. And he said, my biggest fear is
31:48
to like, have surgery but not be under anaesthesia.
31:52
So just general torture is what this dance is afraid of.
31:55
He said be awake. I guess you can kind of be like,
31:59
you know, anesthesia or like have like medicated or whatever
32:02
and not feel it, but still like watch people cut you open and
32:05
shit. See, I've had, I've had surgery
32:09
where it's been technically a twilight sedation.
32:11
And they're like, yeah, no, you're not actually put under
32:14
for that. And I'm like, I am like, I get
32:16
what you're saying. I'm not intubated, but like, I
32:20
wasn't sitting there having a conversation with the doctor,
32:22
you know? But you're still able to like,
32:24
look around. They said count backwards from
32:29
100 in intervals of seven and I got to 93 before I was asleep.
32:34
That's too much thinking, I. Can't.
32:36
Yeah, well, that's that's kind of the point.
32:41
All right, so yeah, he's got all right.
32:44
He goes in the room, He's like, all right, so First off, this is
32:45
an explosive. Yeah, like, you know that's
32:48
going to be. Important It's going to go off
32:49
in one minute. Shadow Man's favorite increment
32:52
of time is 1 minute. Yeah, sometimes he calls it 60
32:56
seconds. It just depends on who he's
32:57
talking to. It's crazy to give him a minute
33:00
to do this shit right here. He has to find the key, and then
33:04
it's exactly the same thing from sock to.
33:06
Yeah, complete with the X-rays up on the wall.
33:11
So he's got to cut this key out of himself.
33:14
He's got some nitrous oxide and he's like, be careful.
33:17
One puff will or too little will keep you awake, but unable to
33:22
move around. Too many will just completely
33:24
put you asleep. So don't do it so.
33:27
Don't do it, but you have to do it as part of the game.
33:30
But he's going to get the key out so that way he can stop the
33:32
explosive. The main point is he tries to
33:34
take a puff and he explodes. Yeah, that's that's really where
33:38
we get to it it. Almost seems like there's
33:40
correlation there. Yeah, yeah, he is the he is the
33:44
explosive. Everybody just kind of watches
33:46
it and they don't really react appropriately.
33:49
Yeah, they're just like, wow. OK, so the detective and the
33:53
special agent see the list of missing kids.
33:57
Again, these aren't teens. They're not turns.
33:59
They are young adults. I don't, I don't know.
34:05
And the special agent I was getting like the profiler from
34:10
trap vibes from her where she's like he's got a dark past.
34:15
Maybe he experienced something significant.
34:18
He's trying to teach them a lesson that a merciful death is
34:21
better than a life of. Pain.
34:22
See, I don't understand where you get any of that from.
34:25
The shit left behind. Like the person dipped her face
34:28
in acid. All right, So she's.
34:29
She should have learned her lesson here.
34:32
Yeah. What are you talking about?
34:33
Who's learning anything if they're just dying?
34:35
Yeah, and how is that a merciful death?
34:38
It's like, like make them hurt themselves and then they go on.
34:42
But no, everything in this is like, you die.
34:44
You don't come out of any of this.
34:46
Again, this person was hopped up on some Nyquil watching song and
34:50
completely misunderstood John Kramer.
34:53
It's like, all right, there's got to be a message.
34:55
There's got to be a reason for this.
34:57
This person has to have a cause. John Kramer's literally there
35:00
pointing to a sign on the wall that says treasure your life.
35:03
And he's like, what does it mean?
35:07
Oh God. All right.
35:09
So Dylan and Sherry are siblings.
35:11
They're twins. They have to do their challenge
35:13
together because Dylan says he doesn't actually have any fears,
35:18
and Sherry's fear is having to live her life without her twin.
35:23
So seems like maybe this is Sherry's test, not Dylan's, but
35:27
Dylan's the one that volunteers them to go next.
35:29
Yeah, so they have to go and they go into the room and it's
35:34
the set up with fucking straps and shit and.
35:38
They have to strap themselves in.
35:41
They are unable to unstrap themselves.
35:44
I don't know how that works. They're also just locked in
35:47
there. Yeah.
35:48
I mean like they can break in eventually, but it's still.
35:52
So they they each have like a little controller that can start
35:57
and stop the drill coming towards their head, but when you
36:01
stop the drill coming towards your head it starts the one on
36:04
your twins starts coming towards them.
36:06
They kind of like Saw X here with the little kid and the
36:08
blood, yeah. Yeah, so basically instead of
36:14
what would happen in a Saw movie is them not counting Saw X,
36:18
because in Saw X they are trying to like sacrifice themselves for
36:20
the other person. But like, if you think through
36:23
the other Saw movies, it's like, I'm not dying for you, bitch.
36:25
Like, no, instead they're just like, I'm going to die for you.
36:29
No, I can't live without you. I think the one thing weird
36:32
about this one is there's no time limit.
36:33
Like one person has to die here. Yeah.
36:36
Like the saw has to go into somebody or the drill has to go
36:38
into somebody regardless. Yep, yeah.
36:42
I mean, yeah. And they, like, have their own
36:43
little debate back and forth, but ultimately it's Dylan that
36:46
gets the drill to the head. Yeah, and I like how he knows
36:50
his sister well enough. He's like just drop them out,
36:52
drop it, drop it, drop it and eventually she does and he dies
36:57
in incredible slow motion and bad CGI.
37:00
Terrible. Yeah.
37:01
Yeah. Yep.
37:04
So the detectives are talking to the guy who made the button tank
37:07
order. Hill Glass is the place, by the
37:10
way. It's a glass manufacturer.
37:12
But we do drills. We also do drills, glass
37:15
manufacturers and specialty drills.
37:18
He's he gives them the copy of the receipt for the specialty
37:22
tank. And then he says, same guy
37:24
ordered some drills on tracks and they're like, oh, do you
37:29
have the receipt? He goes, no, but I have the
37:30
shipping address. And they're like, yes, please.
37:34
So Kelly goes in to try and help Sherry get Unchained from the
37:39
chair while Brandon and Laura go looking for a way out.
37:44
They're kind of wandering around and there's a door that's like
37:48
suspiciously like enter through here.
37:51
And Laura's like, I don't think we should.
37:53
And Brandon's like, no, clearly this is a safe room.
37:57
Yeah, there's a it's not a safe room.
37:59
So he he goes home or he goes through and he sees his home
38:05
video and he says he's scared of the dark and his test is he has
38:10
to go downstairs and he has to find the fire door.
38:12
Guess how long he has? One minute he gets down there,
38:17
this one actually a pretty cool trap because he can turn a light
38:21
on. But it's blinding.
38:22
Light. But it's blinding light.
38:23
It is burning him. Yeah.
38:24
It's again Saw X Yeah. Did this person see the future?
38:29
Maybe saw X stole from? Maybe.
38:31
You know, we need to look for inspiration.
38:34
Dear Josh. Yeah, he would never admit.
38:36
That. Yeah, it is cool.
38:39
Like, like he shines the light at one point and then like, he
38:43
can kind of see it, but there's like, shotguns rigged all around
38:45
the room pointed right at him. Yeah, he can just like hit the
38:48
deck and be totally fine, but he doesn't think about that part.
38:52
Yeah, so he he does end up like tripping the tripwire and gets
38:57
shot. It's lit the fuck up.
38:59
Yeah, 6 shotguns. This again this.
39:02
I think this is an effective trap.
39:04
I like it. Does he die TBD?
39:07
TBD. Yeah, that tea is gonna be beed.
39:12
So the detectives are at the apartment.
39:14
It's just an actual apartment. It's not like it's not an empty
39:18
place that suspicious packages can be shipped to.
39:21
This is where Shadow Man lives. Where?
39:22
He lives and his neighbor comes out and say, oh, he doesn't talk
39:25
to people. He doesn't talk to people, he's
39:27
always watching TV. He's a hooligan fucker.
39:31
Like what? How do you even know that?
39:33
Like he doesn't communicate to you.
39:35
How do you know his doings? Yeah, and he's got like a bunch
39:38
of newspapers. Pinned all over.
39:40
Yeah, of his own attempted murder.
39:42
It's. Like fires?
39:43
Yeah, fire shit. Yeah, so Kelly and Cherie start
39:48
destroying the cameras because they're like, well, if they
39:51
don't have a show to watch, this is, I mean, this is Katniss
39:56
Everdeen coded. You know, like.
39:59
Well, they're going to have to let us win if they want us to.
40:03
If they want there to be a game show.
40:04
Yeah, except instead he's like you Dum Dums.
40:08
I'm right in the building. I'm just going to come stop you.
40:11
Yeah, yeah, in God, what the fuck happens here?
40:16
So Cherie accidentally stabs Brandon as he walks through a
40:21
door while they're in the middle of all of their destroying and
40:24
thinking that the shadow man's coming for them so he.
40:27
Lived. He lived through like 6 shotguns
40:29
blasts. Yeah, he lived through multiple
40:31
shotgun blasts, but he died from like a broom handle to the
40:34
chest. Yeah, yeah.
40:36
Then the man comes in here and drags war away.
40:40
Yes, and they see what happens to her through video, and maybe
40:44
it made more sense in their live airing version.
40:47
But to us, we just see that she's got a box with a cell
40:52
phone and a box with rats. Her greatest fear is germs, and
40:57
she has 12 pints of blood. We're apparently supposed to
41:02
understand what all. This means put the pieces
41:05
together, people. It's so clear.
41:07
If somebody has an idea of what this game is supposed to be,
41:09
please tell us. Or please tell us your wildest
41:12
theory of what you want the game to be.
41:14
I. Think this guy was just like,
41:15
phoning in at this point. Yeah, I've got the girl that I
41:18
really want. Like I get the person I really
41:19
care about here. Whatever germs.
41:21
Here's some. Fucking bullshit.
41:23
Blood 12 Hines. I had to, yeah.
41:24
Don't Fact Check me. Don't Fact Check me.
41:28
And this will be in cell 5 S writers.
41:31
You're welcome. Yeah.
41:33
Dunstan and Melton. Yeah.
41:36
So that's. I don't know, that's just what's
41:39
happening. Sherry is trying to figure out
41:42
how she can go save Laura while Kelly is looking for the shadow
41:46
man. Yeah.
41:46
And she? She finds the monitor and it's
41:49
empty, so she goes in there to do some snooping.
41:52
And she sees him through the camera, sneaking out behind
41:55
Cherie, and he kills her. And so she ties the door shut
41:59
with a chain, wraps a chain around the door knob.
42:05
So we are now outside back at the apartment.
42:07
The detectives had seen that there were a lot of every single
42:11
tool was labeled Harris Plant. Yeah.
42:14
So they're like, OK, I guess we need to go to Harris Plant.
42:16
And that's where they pull up at and that's where everything is
42:18
taking place. I like.
42:19
To imagine that the shadow man is like, really, really
42:22
forgetful, possibly as a result of his attempted murder.
42:26
So he has to like label everything and keep really good
42:28
notes. But the unfortunate side effect
42:30
is that it makes him a really bad tool.
42:32
Yeah, he's like super traceable. Yeah.
42:35
So they're like, all right, we need to call backup.
42:37
And then the detective Jay is like, no, I'm the guy that cried
42:41
wolf. They won't show up for this
42:42
shit. Like it's a fucking active crime
42:44
scene, man. He's like, no, they can't do
42:46
that. So he like barges in while the
42:49
profiler sticks behind just to like wait for backup to arrive.
42:53
And he comes through the elevator.
42:55
Kelly hears the elevator running.
42:57
So she's like, cool, I'm going to go because surely this is
42:59
somebody saving the day and not the shadow man.
43:02
And she's actually correct. Except the elevator.
43:04
The urban's on both sides, so the shadow man sneaks in and
43:06
drops his head off now. That was the best effect that
43:09
they did. Yeah, that was really good.
43:11
I was like, honestly, it caught me so off guard how well done
43:14
that was. I was like, shocked.
43:16
I was like, Oh my God, they did it.
43:18
Like I'd cheered for them a little bit right there.
43:21
So he tells Kelly it's time to face her worst fear.
43:25
She goes into a room and her mom is tied up and she says we
43:29
deserve this again. And I'm not sitting here being
43:35
an advocate for vigilante justice.
43:37
I'm saying they didn't kill this man for funsies.
43:40
Yeah, they're like, they're like, you did everything you
43:43
could, Mom. You tried to call the cops.
43:44
You'd put it in a restraining order.
43:46
You did everything you could. And then you just got pieced
43:48
together like Kelly's, like I'm gonna light him on fire.
43:51
It was an act of desperation and self-defense.
43:53
Battered woman syndrome. Like, there's a whole lot of
43:55
things we could talk about with this, and also the unfortunate
44:00
reality that there are plenty of domestic abuse victims who will
44:04
still feel bad for the person that has abused them.
44:07
Yeah. Yeah, it's it's a they decided
44:11
to pick a very tricky situation for their motivation.
44:15
In this, yeah. But.
44:19
If it had been like, we killed him through his money, like,
44:21
then I'd be like, OK, yeah. So I understand, like why you
44:25
feel, you know, this type of like, I'm not saying that there
44:29
wouldn't be guilt for them in this situation.
44:32
I just feel like, like you said, there's no nuance with how
44:34
they're talking about it. Yeah, no, it's just really like
44:38
very basic. So like, OK, this is where the
44:41
guy, this is his real lesson that he's wanting them to learn.
44:44
In order to get what you want, you have to suffer.
44:47
Yeah, which is, I'm just going to say it, the the profiler from
44:51
the FBI was wrong. Totally wrong.
44:53
Yeah, yeah. And also, like, suffer.
44:55
No, like die. Nobody's suffering in the movie.
44:59
They're just dying. There's no lessons being learned
45:02
if there's if you're not alive, like alive long enough to learn
45:05
it, you know, whatever. She's responsible for his burns.
45:08
Yeah. And she has 3 minutes to
45:10
complete her game. Yeah.
45:11
He's like, you know, nepotism. Suffering.
45:15
Suffering, suffering, suffering. You're right.
45:17
The rice is on. Yeah, So like, they have like,
45:20
this. I don't fully understand what's
45:21
happening here. He's got it rigged up with,
45:23
like, sparks and, like, gasoline.
45:24
It's like, all right, Like you got to do some shit.
45:26
And if you don't do that shit, then you're going to catch on
45:29
fire. I have no idea what he's
45:31
supposed to or what they're supposed to do.
45:33
Yeah, and we don't actually find out what they end up doing
45:35
because she knocks down the cameras again and he's like, no,
45:38
I want to watch this. So he goes down there.
45:40
Oh, guess what? They've split each other up and
45:43
they're ready to attack. And that's what happened.
45:47
She starts another fire after knocking him down so that way he
45:51
is burned again. Yeah, they yeah.
45:53
So the. Oh and also this whole time we
45:57
have this movie's version of slow ass motherfucking Jeff with
45:59
the profiler because like for like 10 minutes we just see
46:02
shots of her just like roaming the roof of the building.
46:05
Parkour while people are dying. Yeah, like she's doing
46:09
everything she can to not enter this building.
46:11
She's going everywhere around it, above it and under it.
46:14
But like. She never goes in the building
46:17
until the next morning when the teams are there for cleanup and
46:20
they found six bodies. Should be 7.
46:24
And they're like, well, there is a way to get to the sewer from
46:27
inside of this building. And of course, all of this
46:29
information is immediately simultaneously available on the
46:33
news that Kelly is watching from her apartment, which then saw
46:36
three switches to security camera footage of the inside of
46:40
her apartment and shadow man's there.
46:42
That was a cool ending. I'll give him credit there.
46:44
I like that. Yeah, yeah.
46:46
I wish you had more burns. You should have burned more,
46:49
right? You should this fucking movie,
46:54
man I'll. Honestly I think of this movie
46:58
as like a first draft of a really fun concept man.
47:02
This is like the first edition of AI.
47:04
Like write a song, movie. No, please don't give people
47:07
ideas on what to do with SAW. No, that's.
47:10
Or with AII mean yeah. Please do not do that.
47:13
I like this. This does have the human element
47:15
of like, I'm trying. I fucking tried, people.
47:18
I I'm seeing glimpses of real strong potential and I'd again I
47:23
had fun watching this. I have so many questions and
47:27
none of them are answered but it's OK hey.
47:31
You're in luck, movie. That's my kind of movie right
47:33
there. I'm keeping it at a six man.
47:35
I'll bump it to A5. All right.
47:36
Yeah, whatever, man. It's number to 5.5.
47:41
Yeah, OK. That's a way better.
47:42
What was it before 3? 5.25.
47:44
No, I mean the. IMDb is 3.1.
47:47
Three. Yeah.
47:47
OK. Wow.
47:48
Yeah, huge leap. Yeah.
47:50
And I was honestly kind of surprised that it was that low
47:52
of a square. I honestly am too.
47:54
Like it's bad, but it's not that bad, you know what I mean?
47:57
Who did you relate to? Well, tough bye.
48:09
I think that I would relate to, I guess Brandon on the closest
48:13
thing with like a fear that I would relate to here is like
48:15
afraid of the dark, which I'm not like especially afraid of
48:18
the dark or anything, but like, you know, I was whenever I was a
48:22
kid big time. I would say Brandon, but that's
48:26
because I actually am afraid of the dark, OK.
48:28
So yeah, that's true. We have like Night Lights and
48:31
shit all over the South. Because listen, it's safety.
48:34
Yeah, OK. What was Scout's favorite part?
48:40
Oh man, she's got so much material here to pick from, will
48:44
be impossible for me to be alright.
48:50
I think Scout's favorite part was it was probably the part
48:57
where like the woman in the beginning dipped her face in an
49:00
acid. No, she was.
49:02
No, she probably liked the part at the end with the burn being
49:06
locked in the room with the fire because she likes being warm.
49:09
Obviously her favorite part was Jason's test because all she
49:13
wants to do all day is just lay there and sleep.
49:19
Yeah, sure. What is that?
49:23
What do you hope from the sequel?
49:25
That we're definitely going to watch at some point.
49:27
I hope that they actually have a game show.
49:31
Yes. I think where I would like for
49:33
it to be is like, I don't know, Obviously the show is off the
49:36
air now that this guy is like he got his daughter, so.
49:39
So this becomes a new sensation, right?
49:42
And some big company actually develops this game.
49:47
Yeah, yeah. But Shadow Man ends up somehow
49:51
managing to work for it, so he's like doing like actual killings.
49:54
No, I and. They're not planning for it.
49:56
I wanted to actually be established as like a safe one.
49:58
Like, OK, we know in the old one people were really dying.
50:01
And I we heard, we heard you guys, we heard you people and we
50:05
know you guys don't want to die anymore.
50:06
So we're sorry for this. Or here's the safer.
50:08
We're sorry. Yeah, but in this one right
50:11
here, he's like, he ends up doing that.
50:14
I don't know. Could be the daughter.
50:16
Maybe she's like, see, that was one thing that I was expecting.
50:19
I expected her to be an Amanda. OK, like an accomplice.
50:24
I thought that that's what it was gonna be at the end of the
50:26
movie, but no, she ended up actually being against them.
50:31
But yeah, I thought that we were gonna get an Amanda.
50:33
I thought if this is trying to be soft, get somebody on the
50:36
inside because that's like the soft thing you.
50:37
Know yeah you know what actually that really makes a lot of sense
50:41
because I kind of had a thought too where I was like oh she must
50:43
be in on the game yeah but actually I thought that about
50:46
Laura at first yeah she she. Was.
50:48
With her too. Yeah.
50:49
Yeah. But OK, I I can dig that.
50:53
OK, all right, what do we do on 2B sound?
50:57
I can't remember. I suck at remembering this shit.
51:00
It's because we only do it once. A.
51:01
Month so yeah I think now I do reviews from IMDb OK so let me
51:08
go ahead and pull those up now we always pull a good and a bad
51:13
so that way we kind of get a balance of different opinions
51:19
here's a good review this one's an 8 out of 10 you're.
51:23
Welcome. It's not saw, it's better.
51:26
Whoa, OK. Are you scared Reviewed by
51:31
William Newman, the film has promised to be the two Saw films
51:36
in Game wise, however, the film is much more clever.
51:38
The film is adventurous, frightening and.
51:44
Who the fuck is this person? The film's opening scene left me
51:48
to think after seeing Saw three that it was Saw Four since the
51:51
since most horror films get really brutal after the third
51:54
film. The first victim dies in a way.
51:57
Of course calf means kick ass. Oh, there we.
51:59
Go. Oh, OK.
52:02
Now the next of. Course you should lead off with
52:06
that shit man. Not like, OK, sorry.
52:09
Go ahead now the next scene made me like the film even more.
52:12
Now the film has its own characters like Saul did.
52:14
The detectives knows the killers works and wants to end it after
52:18
he's done killing people. Now for the main game in the
52:21
film gets really sets the ABS. In the film the victims have
52:25
character. The brother and the sister are
52:27
the main game that gets me. They have to choose who will
52:29
live and who will die. The sister in the manner is the
52:32
one to live and her and her brother were supposed to be
52:35
twins and she had to watch him die with a drill to his
52:37
forehead. That scene itself is rated .4
52:40
out of .5. Who the fuck is this person?
52:48
William Newman this. Is the only type of person that
52:50
would get this much enjoyment out of this movie.
52:53
Well they only have a .5 rating system, so. .7 out .3 right
52:59
here. Like that scene was probably
53:02
like a 2. Like I don't fucking know.
53:05
The man that is afraid of the dark has to live or die in a
53:08
more frightening way. Guns are all around you and it's
53:10
like wow man, I can't say the dark one hair triggered to go.
53:15
I like this guy's way of reviewing.
53:17
I am feeling it William. The film scenes and traps are
53:22
very well entertaining. Some of the dusts are chased
53:25
into the film but still watchful.
53:27
The film's climax is very interesting.
53:29
On to whom is the cause of it all.
53:31
The film is much more realistic than Saw so the Saw fans can
53:34
slush it. The film is very entertaining
53:36
and very adventurous. William Newman rates this film
53:39
made out of 10 with saying it has more to offer than.
53:41
Saw this is definitely good to speak to the third person.
53:45
I I'm not mad about it. I want to read more of Lillian
53:48
Newman's reviews. I want I wish you could look up
53:52
IMDb people's profiles. I want to know like.
53:55
Anytime. Every review.
53:56
If there's ever like a review for him in a movie we cover, I
53:59
got to get that shit. That was that was so amazing
54:02
right there. OK, I'm.
54:06
Crying. 3 out of 10 cheap saw imitation.
54:11
William M Newman, he like writes to to ready on a scale of like
54:20
$10 a hundred. I listen that man just liked the
54:26
movie for what it was. I'm not bad that's.
54:29
I'm happy for him, honestly. That was great.
54:34
Cheap saw imitation Are you scared?
54:36
As a chief imitation of saw, madman keeps a bunch of teens
54:40
teens. Turns.
54:41
Teens who apply for reality TV contest.
54:44
Turns out the show was way too real for everyone as they all
54:47
start dying in contests where there's no way to win and there
54:49
is an audience of one. Everything moves pretty fast,
54:52
which is nice when the effects and dialogue are well below
54:54
average. Lighting was terrible, camera
54:56
work was fine, screenplay was okay, directing was marginal,
54:58
and editing was good. Some choice at the end made it a
55:02
little more interesting. One thing I noticed is that I
55:04
didn't feel sorry for the characters when they died
55:06
because they were all pretty annoying.
55:07
Even the police and FBI characters didn't generate any
55:10
real sympathy. Yeah.
55:12
I mean, they were all very generic.
55:14
They didn't really have much going.
55:16
Yeah, we didn't get to know any of them, honestly.
55:18
Yeah, they were just there. They were just there being not
55:22
Donnie Wahlberg. Trying to be but can't.
55:25
Not everyone can be Donnie Wahlberg.
55:27
Nobody. Nobody but Donnie, Yeah.
55:30
Yeah, so I don't know if you like the Saw movies because
55:35
you're capable of not overthinking them, then I think
55:38
you would enjoy this movie. Yeah, if you're just like a fan
55:40
of that kind of like sub genre that saw kind of birth with that
55:45
right there with the, you know, like the game.
55:47
Torture, yeah. Yeah, You know, I think it
55:51
works. I don't know.
55:52
I mean, like, objectively speaking, it's not a great
55:54
movie, but I enjoy it because like bad fun movies, like movies
55:58
that have like, I like seeing, like Ernest, like trying, you
56:02
know what I mean? This is somebody with a camera
56:06
and a dream and maybe a bottle of Nyquil.
56:09
Yeah, like and also. And I like it.
56:11
I I don't really care if a movie is like ripping off another
56:16
movie. That's how I've gotten so many
56:17
of my favorite movies. I mean, Friday the 13th is a
56:19
fucking Halloween RIP off. Yeah.
56:21
Like, through and through. That was what they were doing.
56:23
Yeah, so like, you know, it's it is what it is.
56:26
I really don't give a shit about that.
56:28
Like you can still make a good movie.
56:30
And I'll, I'll be, I'll be there for.
56:32
It and I part of the reason I want to watch the second one for
56:34
this is because writing these types of movies you have to not
56:37
be afraid to do what seem like over the top things.
56:40
Yeah, because that's what makes these movies like go.
56:43
Oh, like, yeah, I'm going to start using that.
56:48
Yeah. Like did this movie make you go?
56:52
Yeah, so. To be or not to be?
56:55
That is the trailer question. Yes, I think it's pretty clear
56:58
from what we just said. Yeah, we say.
57:00
Yeah, go for it. Go for it.
57:02
It's an hour and 19 minutes. It's not a huge time sack and
57:06
honestly it feels faster than that.
57:07
Yeah, it really does. Yeah.
57:09
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