Latest / The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network / Ep. 57: The Jaguars Offseason To-Do List | Jags A.M. Podcast

Transcript

Ep. 57: The Jaguars Offseason To-Do List | Jags A.M. Podcast · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

0:18
Speaker 1: Welcome to Jack Dam. I'm Kinnannie Stevens. We have some
0:22
Speaker 1: mothers joining us today as we go over our off
0:24
Speaker 1: season list here. As we look into the off season
0:27
Speaker 1: and what we're going to be doing for the to
0:29
Speaker 1: do list, big thing number one is going to be
0:31
Speaker 1: coaching vacancies. As we know the defensive staff here, Mike
0:34
Speaker 1: Caldwell and his staff were let go. Also some offensive coaches.
0:37
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson talked a little bit about coaching and what
0:39
Speaker 1: he's looking for in terms of moving forward and about
0:42
Speaker 1: fixing mistakes when they happen on the field.
0:45
Speaker 2: You get down the road during the season, and sometimes
0:49
Speaker 2: you do as coaches sometimes we say, you know what,
0:51
Speaker 2: we'll get that in the meeting. We'll fix that in
0:53
Speaker 2: the meeting, and you do, you fix it. But I
0:57
Speaker 2: want to fix it on the field. If Trevor makes
0:59
Speaker 2: a poortousion on the field with a throw, let's let's
1:05
Speaker 2: positive reinforcement. Let's let him get it again, even though
1:08
Speaker 2: he knows exactly where to go with the ball. Let's
1:11
Speaker 2: make let him make that decision differently. Right. So, but
1:15
Speaker 2: I think sometimes we get we get caught up too much,
1:18
Speaker 2: and you know, let's fix it in the meeting and
1:22
Speaker 2: we'll fix it tomorrow, when when, in reality, we need
1:26
Speaker 2: to fix it right then, Brian.
1:30
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of new coaches around here
1:32
Speaker 1: next year. Doug talked a little bit more about the
1:34
Speaker 1: philosophy of kind of fixing things as they happen, not
1:36
Speaker 1: pushing or kicking the can down the road. What kind
1:38
Speaker 1: of defensive coach should we see or could we see
1:41
Speaker 1: come in here?
1:41
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know what you're gonna get is
1:43
Speaker 3: somebody who says I want to attack. Has there ever
1:46
Speaker 3: been a defensive coordinator at his introductory press conference that
1:49
Speaker 3: didn't talk about attacking? I think what's interesting, guy, is
1:53
Speaker 3: the market is flooded all of a sudden with coaches
1:56
Speaker 3: because of the coaching vacuancies that are popping up in
1:58
Speaker 3: places like Seattle, Tennessee, New England. It's a really competitive
2:04
Speaker 3: time to go and find coaches because you not only
2:07
Speaker 3: have these these these coaches who are retiring being fired,
2:13
Speaker 3: but everybody's looking for replacements. So it'll be very very competitive.
2:19
Speaker 4: Yeah, I anticipate, and this could be wrong, but I've
2:23
Speaker 4: been wrong with four Bryan. That's why you well once
2:27
Speaker 4: in the seventies. But it I would be surprised if
2:31
Speaker 4: it's not a coordinator with previous coordinator experience, just because
2:36
Speaker 4: my callwell did not have that, and you would think
2:41
Speaker 4: usually go in a different direction. It's sort of the cliche,
2:43
Speaker 4: but it often happens. And Doug is very much the
2:46
Speaker 4: type that once the defensive coordinator. Doug's gonna run the offense.
2:51
Speaker 4: I was run the whole team, but he's not going
2:53
Speaker 4: to get overly involved in the defense on a you know,
2:57
Speaker 4: minute to minute basis. So I would think k that
3:00
Speaker 4: an experienced coordinator.
3:02
Speaker 1: Uh.
3:03
Speaker 4: As Brian said at they'll attack. I'd never heard anybody
3:06
Speaker 4: an impress or say we're gonna be passive on defense.
3:08
Speaker 4: I would I would certainly perk up if that happened
3:11
Speaker 4: next week or or uh two or three weeks when
3:13
Speaker 4: IBE this happens. But I think I think it'll be experienced.
3:16
Speaker 4: I don't know the scheme, but uh, a wise old
3:19
Speaker 4: head I would think would be in that spot.
3:21
Speaker 1: Let's go to big thing number two on our to
3:23
Speaker 1: do list for the off season. Canna be free agents.
3:25
Speaker 1: There's some big names here that'll be free agents. Josh Allen,
3:27
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley for one, Calvin Ridley talked about what he's
3:30
Speaker 1: looking for in free agency and the fact he'd like
3:33
Speaker 1: to stay Jacksonville.
3:36
Speaker 5: Of course, I mean I learned these guys, Uh build
3:39
Speaker 5: a relationships with relationships with them. I don't really have
3:44
Speaker 5: really care to learn other people and plays and all
3:47
Speaker 5: that other stuff right now. But uh, you know, God
3:50
Speaker 5: is gonna find out where I belong. And you know,
3:53
Speaker 5: if the money right, you know, I do need some
3:55
Speaker 5: of that, we'll well, we're gonna figure it out. But
4:00
Speaker 5: I got a definitely teach. There's all season for me
4:02
Speaker 5: personally to get better, you know, so I'm coming back
4:05
Speaker 5: and happy about my play.
4:08
Speaker 1: If the money's right, he wants to come back, John,
4:11
Speaker 1: is this a priority for this team? Obviously Josh Allen's
4:13
Speaker 1: going to require a lot of money too, But Calvin
4:15
Speaker 1: was really important to the offensive year.
4:16
Speaker 4: Well, it's a priority to figure it out, and I
4:20
Speaker 4: think they have to figure out if it's the right
4:22
Speaker 4: fit and any free agent that's true of But it
4:25
Speaker 4: seems like Calvin particularly, he was not the fourteen hundred yard,
4:30
Speaker 4: fourteen touchdown receiver. I don't know if he was a
4:33
Speaker 4: quote alful one. I do feel like there were games
4:38
Speaker 4: that they would not have won had he not been here.
4:41
Speaker 4: He's a thousand yard receiver. He showed at various times
4:45
Speaker 4: a big play element. Was he a quote deep threat? No,
4:49
Speaker 4: but he stood in the end zone a lot, and
4:52
Speaker 4: you'd be careful to let that get out of your
4:54
Speaker 4: building when it's in your building. So I don't know
4:58
Speaker 4: what the money will be to know what Calvin will
5:01
Speaker 4: think of his market versus what the Jaguars do, but
5:05
Speaker 4: I think it's something they have to consider because he
5:08
Speaker 4: makes plays and he's hard to cover.
5:09
Speaker 3: And of course it's not just the money, it's if
5:13
Speaker 3: you give him the multi year contract, he's gonna cost
5:16
Speaker 3: you a draft pick. So as you look at where
5:18
Speaker 3: he pardon me, as you look at where you're trying
5:21
Speaker 3: to build your team, guy, you think, well, i've got
5:24
Speaker 3: a first round pick and a second round pick. You
5:26
Speaker 3: set him to a long term deal, we lose the
5:28
Speaker 3: second round pick. So you've got to really carefully consider
5:31
Speaker 3: not just what he was for you this year, but
5:33
Speaker 3: what you think he can be in year two and three.
5:35
Speaker 3: And you've got to be brutally honest with yourself because
5:38
Speaker 3: if you want to upgrade the offensive line, and they
5:41
Speaker 3: have to upgrade the offensive line, if you pay Calvin,
5:45
Speaker 3: you're not going to have that second round pick to
5:47
Speaker 3: get that done. So he is going to be a
5:50
Speaker 3: lynch pin to your entire draft strategy as well as
5:53
Speaker 3: your free agency strategy.
5:54
Speaker 1: That's our final big thing today is we look ahead
5:56
Speaker 1: to the draft because that is a little bit of
5:58
Speaker 1: a draft dilemma because if you lose that second round pick,
6:00
Speaker 1: then the focus only goes to that first round pick.
6:03
Speaker 1: And this is a team that needs to build up
6:04
Speaker 1: the offensive line. Although Doug Peterson did talk about the
6:07
Speaker 1: offensive line earlier this week and he said he's looking
6:09
Speaker 1: more for consistency than necessarily adding new pieces.
6:14
Speaker 2: When guys are playing together for three games, it's not
6:20
Speaker 2: long enough because then we're making another switch, right, another
6:23
Speaker 2: gets hurt and we got to make another. And then
6:25
Speaker 2: they're playing together for three or four more games, and
6:27
Speaker 2: then cams out for four games with an injury or something.
6:31
Speaker 2: And then you know, so the consistency and the continuity
6:35
Speaker 2: that that's what that's what really drives the offensive line.
6:40
Speaker 4: And and then and.
6:42
Speaker 2: We've talked about it, and here too is you know,
6:45
Speaker 2: as a staff, we got to get back to what
6:48
Speaker 2: we feel are the best plays for for us as
6:51
Speaker 2: an offense in our backs and and and sometimes we
6:55
Speaker 2: get away, you know, we get away from that and
6:58
Speaker 2: we uh, you know, we start searching for things that
7:02
Speaker 2: to try to generate that you know, that run game
7:05
Speaker 2: a little bit. But sometimes just just go back to
7:09
Speaker 2: the basics sometimes, you know, things that we've been good
7:12
Speaker 2: at in the past, because that's the that's the one
7:15
Speaker 2: thing that we have the most reps on.
7:17
Speaker 1: Typically, John that was a lot of talk about the
7:21
Speaker 1: offensive line, But there has to be some needs there addressed.
7:25
Speaker 1: Even if it is you have your starting lineup in
7:27
Speaker 1: the building, if he really does believe that's to be true,
7:30
Speaker 1: they need some backups because we saw a lot of
7:31
Speaker 1: injuries on the offensive line. You imagine that has to
7:33
Speaker 1: be where they look what they look for in the
7:34
Speaker 1: first round.
7:35
Speaker 4: Well, yes, I think that. And I got a lot
7:40
Speaker 4: of feedback from what Doug said on Monday about the
7:42
Speaker 4: offensive line. Oh how could he say there's not changes.
7:44
Speaker 4: Here's how the off season works. Coaching vacancies are addressed immediately.
7:52
Speaker 4: There's nothing. Doug gains nothing by coming out twenty four
7:57
Speaker 4: hours after the season and saying I don't like this player.
8:00
Speaker 4: I don't like this player. I like this player. There
8:03
Speaker 4: is a time in the off season, in the three
8:05
Speaker 4: or four weeks coming up before the combine, where they
8:08
Speaker 4: will get together the decisions makers in personnel, this is
8:11
Speaker 4: makes and coaching and figure out what the plan is.
8:14
Speaker 4: I don't think the entire offensive line is back. Maybe
8:17
Speaker 4: it is, but I would not necessarily take his comments
8:20
Speaker 4: on Monday to mean it's set in stone that the
8:24
Speaker 4: entire starting five comes back in the same way. Yeah,
8:27
Speaker 4: I think the first round pick will be an offensive lineman.
8:31
Speaker 4: Could be wrong, but that's the way I would go.
8:35
Speaker 3: They had all season to fix the interior of the
8:38
Speaker 3: offensive line. Phil Rauscher's reputation is that he's an excellent
8:41
Speaker 3: offensive line coach. They couldn't get it done, which means
8:44
Speaker 3: they don't have the players in the middle of that
8:46
Speaker 3: offensive line. Sheriff is an aging veteran who saves you
8:51
Speaker 3: fifteen million dollars on the salary gap. I don't see
8:54
Speaker 3: him back. And Luke Fortner was dead roached on the
8:58
Speaker 3: most important play of the season. I don't know how
8:59
Speaker 3: you forward there. That's me saying it, not Doug. You
9:03
Speaker 3: got to fix the middle of the offensive line, and
9:06
Speaker 3: you'll hope that you can do that at number seventeen
9:11
Speaker 3: and a free agency.
9:12
Speaker 1: We'll go over some of those options coming up, and
9:14
Speaker 1: we'll also look at the free agents that are both
9:16
Speaker 1: with the Jaguars and coming available this season. To stay
9:18
Speaker 1: with us here on Jagzam, we'll be right back after
9:20
Speaker 1: the break. Welcome back to Jagzam, presented by Field's Autogroup, Jacksonville.
9:30
Speaker 1: You can step up to luxury at Fieldsauto dot Com.
9:33
Speaker 1: We're also brought to you by price dot Com, the
9:35
Speaker 1: easiest way to save money with comparison shopping, cash back
9:38
Speaker 1: coupons all in one, It's free. You can try out
9:40
Speaker 1: price dot Com today. Welcome back into Jagzam here as
9:48
Speaker 1: we try to recap everything for you from the regular season,
9:51
Speaker 1: we look a little bit ahead to the postseason as well,
9:53
Speaker 1: and we're gonna do a little bit of looking at
9:55
Speaker 1: free agency. There's a decent number of names that are
9:58
Speaker 1: on the Jaguars unrestricted for agency. The couple I've highlighted
10:01
Speaker 1: for you guys to look at. Obviously, Josh Allen and
10:03
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley are going to be the big names, but
10:06
Speaker 1: we talked about the offensive line. Ezra Cleveland is someone
10:08
Speaker 1: that I would like to see back. If you guys
10:10
Speaker 1: were kind of looking at this from what they have available,
10:14
Speaker 1: Who's Who's some names that jump out to you.
10:16
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, Cleveland's a guy that you know a
10:19
Speaker 3: month in dim being here. They've always their best insure
10:22
Speaker 3: at your offensive line, so I would say you've definitely
10:25
Speaker 3: wanted him back. Smooth's a guy that in twenty twenty four,
10:29
Speaker 3: Sorry about these boys, twenty twenty four should be a
10:32
Speaker 3: year closer to being back after the injury last year,
10:36
Speaker 3: and is a valuable guy and he's not going to
10:37
Speaker 3: cost you a ton of money.
10:39
Speaker 4: John.
10:39
Speaker 1: There's a lot of interesting names, and we talked about
10:41
Speaker 1: a little bit about this yesterday because some of them,
10:43
Speaker 1: if they're cheap, you bring them back. Some of them,
10:45
Speaker 1: you know you're looking at your where do you go elsewhere?
10:47
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's what's available.
10:48
Speaker 4: But yeah, a lot of these guys are the kind
10:50
Speaker 4: of guys you need, meaning they don't break the bank.
10:54
Speaker 4: They're veterans who have been around. They're also I agree
10:59
Speaker 4: with Cleveland. I think got Cleveland and Josh Allen are
11:02
Speaker 4: certainly back. You already heard my thoughts on Ridley Smoot.
11:05
Speaker 4: I hope is back. What you don't know about Dwan
11:08
Speaker 4: and I hope this isn't the case. And Achilles, which
11:12
Speaker 4: he had is often very hard to come back from
11:14
Speaker 4: long term. He's an eighth year guy. Do they think
11:17
Speaker 4: that there's more than what they saw? Is there going
11:20
Speaker 4: to be an ascension right after that? Or is it
11:23
Speaker 4: just what it is? I hope it's the I hope
11:25
Speaker 4: it's the former. I hope he's back. I don't know Agnew,
11:28
Speaker 4: I'm not quite sure on and I don't know. I
11:32
Speaker 4: don't know about Brandon McManus, because this is a guy
11:35
Speaker 4: who in November slumped at a very key time. Now
11:40
Speaker 4: it was fifty yardfield goals. He's not a bad kicker,
11:43
Speaker 4: but he's in his eleventh year, so you know, there
11:47
Speaker 4: are decisions to be made. Do you go with what
11:49
Speaker 4: you know or do you try to use those spots
11:52
Speaker 4: for the fresh blood that there's going to be some.
11:55
Speaker 3: Right, So there's for those those spots. Two sides of
11:58
Speaker 3: the deal too. Jacks could one here back at a
12:00
Speaker 3: certain number, and he could decide no, I can get
12:02
Speaker 3: more than free agent market. So it isn't just whether
12:05
Speaker 3: the Jags can make a decision to keep him. It's
12:09
Speaker 3: whether he and the Jags can come to a conclusion
12:11
Speaker 3: that works for both.
12:12
Speaker 4: And a lot of that could be too. Last year,
12:15
Speaker 4: McManus was clearly a case of look forward early in
12:19
Speaker 4: the off season. It didn't hit right in the draft.
12:21
Speaker 4: I think they I think they would have liked to
12:23
Speaker 4: have drafted a kicker. Didn't quite work out. So do
12:27
Speaker 4: you say we are committing to bringing two or three
12:31
Speaker 4: young guys in here figuring out and starting that, you know,
12:34
Speaker 4: let's get a cheap kicker for four or five years
12:38
Speaker 4: and then ascend from there. I don't have a gut
12:41
Speaker 4: on brand. I think I think that will be a
12:44
Speaker 4: decision that plays out based on how they do in
12:46
Speaker 4: the off season.
12:48
Speaker 1: As we look ahead. I think we also have to
12:50
Speaker 1: mention with a new defensive coordinator, they might have a
12:52
Speaker 1: hand in some of who they're bringing back. Right when
12:54
Speaker 1: it comes to free agency, I'm sure Josh Allen we
12:56
Speaker 1: priority number one. We heard from Josh Allen this year.
12:58
Speaker 1: It really feels like kind of a grow point for him.
13:00
Speaker 1: He talked a lot about, you know, understanding obviously he
13:03
Speaker 1: had a personally a great season, but kind of not
13:06
Speaker 1: wasting these years and and he also talked about the
13:08
Speaker 1: importance of playing really good football later in the year.
13:12
Speaker 6: Games are meaningful in December, that was our that was
13:15
Speaker 6: our main focus last year. I mean, played meaningful games
13:19
Speaker 6: in December, December and February, and you know, and when
13:22
Speaker 6: we got in this situation this year, I think the
13:25
Speaker 6: focus changed on going back to the fundamentals and doing that.
13:28
Speaker 6: So it was kind of took a little step back.
13:30
Speaker 6: Uh So for us man is to to at the
13:33
Speaker 6: end of the day, the goals to win.
13:37
Speaker 1: What Josh and Trayvonn were able to do this season
13:39
Speaker 1: very impressive.
13:40
Speaker 4: John.
13:40
Speaker 1: When you're looking at a DC candidate, obviously that's gonna
13:43
Speaker 1: be what it's centered around. This job is centered around
13:45
Speaker 1: those two guys and and what you can build around
13:47
Speaker 1: with them. What kind of coach would would be best
13:49
Speaker 1: or is there a name or anything that you think
13:51
Speaker 1: would be helpful for them kind of getting this defense
13:53
Speaker 1: to where.
13:53
Speaker 4: It can be. Well, I'm not sure in names, cause
13:55
Speaker 4: it's it's so far out. I think the uh prototype
13:59
Speaker 4: or uh, you know, the type will be experienced guy.
14:04
Speaker 4: So much of the NFL now is based on Nickel,
14:07
Speaker 4: So I'm not that tied end to whether it's a
14:10
Speaker 4: three four guy four to three guy in base I
14:14
Speaker 4: think what the defense corner has to be happy about
14:16
Speaker 4: is you've got two edged guys who are not only
14:22
Speaker 4: good pass rushers, but they're good run defenders. They are
14:25
Speaker 4: not guys who you come in and, oh, we have
14:27
Speaker 4: to work around their skills. You can put them on
14:30
Speaker 4: the edge and they can do whatever you ask them
14:33
Speaker 4: to do. Are they the best tandem in the league.
14:37
Speaker 4: I think they're up there no matter who comes in.
14:40
Speaker 4: I mean I kind of got off track. Leslie Frasier,
14:44
Speaker 4: who I worked with in Indianapolis, is out there. He's
14:47
Speaker 4: an experienced guy. He has run innovative schemes, he can lead,
14:52
Speaker 4: He's good at the front of the room. That's my
14:55
Speaker 4: personal knowledge of him, so I would I would look
14:58
Speaker 4: at him. I don't know some of the other candidates
14:59
Speaker 4: who out there, but Leslie fits that prototype. A guy
15:02
Speaker 4: who's been a head coach can stand in front of
15:05
Speaker 4: the room and can run the defense and that Doug
15:09
Speaker 4: can trust him to run the defense well.
15:11
Speaker 3: And wing Martindale's inna sure people are familiar with giants.
15:14
Speaker 3: Ravens runs a three four hybrid system that would fit
15:19
Speaker 3: Trayvon in. He's gonna have to get more out of
15:22
Speaker 3: Foaya and more out of Devin Lloyd because their linebacker centric.
15:26
Speaker 3: But he would fit with John was talking about earlier,
15:28
Speaker 3: which is to have a coach you could just run
15:31
Speaker 3: it go and.
15:31
Speaker 4: Do his thing.
15:32
Speaker 1: It is almost someone you'd imagine would be like, not
15:35
Speaker 1: necessarily another head coach in a sense, because the Doug
15:38
Speaker 1: kind of wants to focus on the offense and have
15:41
Speaker 1: the defense kind of be its own thing, and that's
15:44
Speaker 1: the way they run this. But you need to have
15:45
Speaker 1: someone that's experience and maybe been a head coach before,
15:47
Speaker 1: or at least been a very experienced coordinator, and it's
15:50
Speaker 1: able to come in and do that and command that
15:51
Speaker 1: respect right out of the key well.
15:53
Speaker 4: And it's hard to know unless you've been around a
15:56
Speaker 4: guy what kind of a coach he is. But it's
15:59
Speaker 4: clear from listening to Doug that he thought in many
16:03
Speaker 4: areas on the team, attention to detail and attention to
16:06
Speaker 4: fundamentals got away this year when he talked about going
16:10
Speaker 4: back during practice and making sure something was right. Is
16:15
Speaker 4: the defensive Cordner sebody who believes in that? Is he
16:18
Speaker 4: a teacher? Is he fundamentally focused? Is he comfortable running simple?
16:23
Speaker 4: Because it sounds like this defense needs to be simple.
16:25
Speaker 4: I'm not sure that it needs to be complex. Is
16:28
Speaker 4: he a guy that can do both? Can he start
16:30
Speaker 4: simple and get more complex? I think those are the
16:32
Speaker 4: question he's asking. It's hard to know when you see
16:36
Speaker 4: a list of names, if you're not in the interview room,
16:39
Speaker 4: it's hard to know how that's meshing. But I think
16:41
Speaker 4: that's going to be a huge priority for what Doug's
16:43
Speaker 4: looking for.
16:44
Speaker 1: All right, say with here on Jagzam coming back, we'll
16:45
Speaker 1: hear some of the parting words from the players as
16:47
Speaker 1: they cleaned out their lockers earlier this week. Welcome back
16:53
Speaker 1: to jag Zam. For ten years, dream Finders Holmes has
16:55
Speaker 1: been how to call themselves the official homebuilder of the
16:57
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. You can visit dreamfinders homes dot com for
17:00
Speaker 1: all of the available inventory and go jackson Being back
17:05
Speaker 1: to Jagsam presented by Jet Home Loans, we're going over
17:08
Speaker 1: the end of the year. The locker clean out was
17:11
Speaker 1: earlier this week and we got to hear from some
17:13
Speaker 1: of their players about, you know, the end of the season.
17:15
Speaker 1: It was tough way to end things, losing five of
17:17
Speaker 1: your last six and missing out of the playoffs. In
17:19
Speaker 1: that final game, Christian Kirk always won. It's good with
17:22
Speaker 1: words and a little bit of wisdom in that locker room,
17:24
Speaker 1: and he said, you know, they still haven't figured out
17:27
Speaker 1: a lot of the whys for this team, but that's
17:28
Speaker 1: something to look at in the offseason, and obviously things
17:31
Speaker 1: need to change next year.
17:34
Speaker 7: It's hard in football to just be able to pinpoint
17:37
Speaker 7: on one certain thing this is the reason why we
17:39
Speaker 7: started winning games, or this is the reason why we
17:41
Speaker 7: started losing games. And I think that goes to say,
17:45
Speaker 7: you know, everybody wants to talk so much about last
17:47
Speaker 7: year and you know how we all of a sudden
17:49
Speaker 7: switched our season and became a new team and got
17:51
Speaker 7: into the postseason. Nobody could still give you an answer
17:53
Speaker 7: why that actually happened. And even statistically and factually, you
17:57
Speaker 7: can't go and look and say, oh, this is why.
18:00
Speaker 7: So I think we all you know, I think there's
18:03
Speaker 7: a sense and a nature of you know, at some
18:05
Speaker 7: point it's going to happen, and that's not how football works.
18:08
Speaker 7: You got to go out there and you got to
18:09
Speaker 7: take it and eventually, you know, it'll expose you. And
18:13
Speaker 7: the NFL is hard, and we.
18:15
Speaker 1: Just weren't ready, John, I know you were there for
18:18
Speaker 1: that when Christian said they still hadn't figured out why
18:20
Speaker 1: they made that crazy run last year, and then everybody's
18:23
Speaker 1: kind of relying on that a little bit, and that's
18:25
Speaker 1: not how it.
18:25
Speaker 4: Works, yeap. My impression from listening to Christian, from listening
18:29
Speaker 4: to Traves YTM different guys, and then from listening to
18:32
Speaker 4: Doug all year, this is such a hard league to
18:35
Speaker 4: win in, and it's such a game of moments in
18:39
Speaker 4: a game of inches, you know, and over a seventeen
18:42
Speaker 4: game season, you're gonna lose a couple, you're gonna win
18:45
Speaker 4: a couple of big and then a lot of the
18:46
Speaker 4: games come down to moments plays and everybody's heard every
18:51
Speaker 4: coach we've ever been around talk about you don't know
18:53
Speaker 4: when those big plays are. Doug talks so much this year,
18:56
Speaker 4: and Christians sort of alluded to it of guys just
18:59
Speaker 4: not fully grasping the sense of moment and the urgency.
19:06
Speaker 4: And I don't know if I'm even using the right words,
19:07
Speaker 4: but maybe it's coming through and I'm trying to say so.
19:12
Speaker 4: I think what the veterans hope is that there are
19:16
Speaker 4: more guys all season who understand the importance of every moment,
19:20
Speaker 4: and I think that's what they think lacked. A lot
19:24
Speaker 4: of the leaders were talking about that. I think it's
19:27
Speaker 4: gonna be the messaging next year, and I think that's
19:28
Speaker 4: what they want to get fixed. And I'm not sure
19:30
Speaker 4: how to fix it, but it feels like that's gonna
19:32
Speaker 4: be the theme next year.
19:33
Speaker 3: Well, let's see if I can get this sentence out
19:35
Speaker 3: before my voice goes. I think the guys enjoyed the
19:39
Speaker 3: position this team was in that they had built last year,
19:42
Speaker 3: and I think they felt like they were had arrived.
19:46
Speaker 3: They were one of the best teams, and I'm not
19:49
Speaker 3: sure that they knew what it took, as Doug said,
19:53
Speaker 3: to not just be where you were, but to go
19:55
Speaker 3: where they are. And their record this year against the
19:58
Speaker 3: best teams Jeeves in the Ravens, I've talked about it.
20:01
Speaker 3: Ad Nausea wasn't good. They didn't compete, and I don't
20:05
Speaker 3: think that they transitioned from the hunter to the hunt dead.
20:10
Speaker 3: They didn't understand what it took. They were happy to
20:13
Speaker 3: be here, they were satisfied. I felt that you can't
20:17
Speaker 3: be that. There won't be now this all changes now,
20:21
Speaker 3: there can't be anymore. Hey, we're just happy to people
20:24
Speaker 3: have us high in the power rankings, that they have
20:27
Speaker 3: us on primetime television, that our games are sold out.
20:30
Speaker 3: It can't just be all the accouterments. It's got to
20:32
Speaker 3: be the meat, not just the sizzle.
20:35
Speaker 1: And to stay at that status, g R.
20:37
Speaker 3: It takes a lot more work.
20:38
Speaker 1: We are getting a little bit more from the players
20:40
Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, speaking now that things are
20:42
Speaker 1: done about how the season went. And Calvin's always pretty honest,
20:45
Speaker 1: which is nice to hear from people, to just kind
20:48
Speaker 1: of unfiltered answer, and he talked a little bit about
20:52
Speaker 1: this team getting tired and kind of what they went
20:54
Speaker 1: through the end of the season.
20:57
Speaker 5: We don't feel good all the time, you know, you injuries,
21:00
Speaker 5: your team is not always together, and it's just the
21:03
Speaker 5: weeks are just hard. And you know, somewhere in those
21:08
Speaker 5: weeks we kind of lost it, you know, I think,
21:10
Speaker 5: and uh, we just we we couldn't know those moments
21:17
Speaker 5: that we needed to and we just needed our juice.
21:20
Speaker 5: We didn't have the juice I felt.
21:21
Speaker 1: So I don't know Telvis says they didn't have the juice,
21:26
Speaker 1: but whatever you want to call it, I mean, we
21:27
Speaker 1: all felt something was going wrong, and it's nice to
21:30
Speaker 1: obviously when you're in it. I'm sure the players don't
21:32
Speaker 1: want to admit that, but they felt it too right.
21:34
Speaker 1: And now that you're away from it, you can kind
21:36
Speaker 1: of look back, think about what that actually was John,
21:38
Speaker 1: and try to address it. Because when you're in it,
21:41
Speaker 1: maybe you're like, oh, we can fix this, let's not
21:43
Speaker 1: you know, go overboard with it. But now you can
21:44
Speaker 1: look at it objectively and be like, yeah, something was up.
21:46
Speaker 4: Well, it's always the big mystery when you're in a
21:49
Speaker 4: streak like that had to pull out of it, and
21:52
Speaker 4: when you win, it tends to build one way, and
21:56
Speaker 4: then when you lose, it's sort of go the other way.
22:01
Speaker 4: They didn't play bad against Cincinnati. They didn't play I
22:04
Speaker 4: mean overall the events didn't play well. Was you know
22:06
Speaker 4: what I'm saying it was it was a tight game
22:07
Speaker 4: against a team that finished nine and eight. They didn't
22:11
Speaker 4: They played awful against Cleveland, but were close, so you
22:14
Speaker 4: felt like it was still there. And then something with
22:16
Speaker 4: Baltimore the way they pulled away at the end. They
22:18
Speaker 4: never got it back after that. But I almost feel
22:21
Speaker 4: like if the Baltimore loss had been on its own,
22:25
Speaker 4: it wouldn't have had that building feeling in the locker room,
22:28
Speaker 4: but you did get the idea of it's slipping away
22:32
Speaker 4: and them not knowing quite how to grab a hold
22:34
Speaker 4: of it and turn it around. If the field goal
22:38
Speaker 4: goes through against Cincinnati, yeah maybe it changes. Then everything
22:43
Speaker 4: sort of feels different, But that's not the way the
22:45
Speaker 4: league works. Well, is what you get.
22:47
Speaker 3: As it slipped away, It was the same things. It
22:49
Speaker 3: was the turnovers, it was the penalties, it was it
22:52
Speaker 3: was the same mistakes.
22:54
Speaker 4: So you press, you get, Hey, I've got to do it.
22:57
Speaker 4: I've got to jump in this gap because I want
23:00
Speaker 4: to make the play. And every coach I've ever been
23:02
Speaker 4: around has always talked about how the one thing you
23:04
Speaker 4: can't have is guys thinking that they have to do
23:07
Speaker 4: more than what their job is. But yet, when you
23:10
Speaker 4: get in a situation at the end of the season
23:12
Speaker 4: where you've lost a bunch, human nature is Brian's voice
23:17
Speaker 4: is bad. Well, I want to step in and make
23:18
Speaker 4: a play to help him out. You know, That's that's
23:22
Speaker 4: a natural feeling in a team sport sometimes that heck,
23:27
Speaker 4: I gotta make a play here. Well, I thought where
23:29
Speaker 4: I shouldn't throw it. I gotta make a play here,
23:30
Speaker 4: I jump. I gotta make a play here, I jump
23:32
Speaker 4: out of the gap. That was sort of the story
23:36
Speaker 4: of the season. They'll reset it. I think the important
23:39
Speaker 4: thing to remember is we wrap up. They're not one
23:42
Speaker 4: in fifteen now they're nine and eight, So you're not
23:47
Speaker 4: starting from the depths. It feels like the depths because
23:50
Speaker 4: you lost five or six, but they were one play away,
23:55
Speaker 4: not eight games away. Now, don't settle for that. But
23:58
Speaker 4: it's not like you can't readjust and get this thing
24:02
Speaker 4: going again.
24:03
Speaker 1: Uh.
24:03
Speaker 4: They're not the worst team in football, but they were
24:07
Speaker 4: fairly it's pretty close to at the end of the season,
24:09
Speaker 4: the way they were playing under twenty four.
24:13
Speaker 3: Doug said he wasn't gonna settled, and he made changes
24:16
Speaker 3: to the staff. They'll make changes to the roster. They
24:19
Speaker 3: won't stand back, and.
24:20
Speaker 1: They need to because change cannot only be coaching, cause
24:23
Speaker 1: there has to be the players on the field as well,
24:26
Speaker 1: and that goes to Trevor as well. He played hurt
24:28
Speaker 1: a lot of this year. Very commendable, battling through at
24:31
Speaker 1: least four different injuries, but there's question marks about his
24:34
Speaker 1: development as the mistakes that he's made throughout the season,
24:37
Speaker 1: He's being held accountable just like everybody else. Evan Ingram
24:40
Speaker 1: talked a little bit about his quarterback and what he's
24:42
Speaker 1: expecting to see from Trevor moving forward.
24:46
Speaker 8: Honestly, in the in the adversity, there's a lesson to
24:49
Speaker 8: be learned and there's growth to be had, and I
24:51
Speaker 8: think a lot of things that we all experience, especially
24:54
Speaker 8: Trevor experience this year. He has the right mindset, and
24:58
Speaker 8: he has the right team around him and the right
25:02
Speaker 8: you know, I think he has the right face to
25:05
Speaker 8: understand that, you know, things happen for a reason, and
25:08
Speaker 8: you know, we all can grow better for him. We
25:10
Speaker 8: all can use this, like I said, part of our
25:12
Speaker 8: story to enable us to truly be who is supposed
25:14
Speaker 8: to be.
25:16
Speaker 1: John. We talked a lot about this being a year
25:18
Speaker 1: for Trevor to kind of establish himself, and now it
25:20
Speaker 1: turns to next year and it really becomes that point
25:22
Speaker 1: where when you're getting closer to extending him or whatever
25:24
Speaker 1: you're gonna do with him in the future. Next year
25:26
Speaker 1: is a huge year for him. It is, and you know,
25:29
Speaker 1: it's so hard to judge.
25:31
Speaker 4: I thought he was improving. I liked a lot of
25:34
Speaker 4: things I saw until the high ankle spring, and then
25:36
Speaker 4: he leaves three of the last five games with injuries.
25:40
Speaker 4: I get one of things Trevor said at his locker
25:42
Speaker 4: is people are gonna have opinions. They're not going to
25:44
Speaker 4: be great. That's gonna be his off season. He knows that,
25:46
Speaker 4: he gets it. I firmly believe he's still the guy
25:51
Speaker 4: moving forward. But I also think both sides are now
25:55
Speaker 4: in a situation where it's tough to pay that contract
25:59
Speaker 4: because it's hard to know where it is. So I
26:02
Speaker 4: don't know if they'll put it on hold. I could
26:05
Speaker 4: see it being put on hold just to clear things up.
26:09
Speaker 4: I can't imagine both fifty year options won't be picked
26:12
Speaker 4: up Travis Etn and Trevor Lawrence. But to clear things up,
26:15
Speaker 4: that's not a contract, that's just we want to make
26:18
Speaker 4: sure you're here for that fifth year. So don't think
26:21
Speaker 4: there's any money going out the window. It's not committing
26:24
Speaker 4: to anything. It's just making sure these guys are here.
26:25
Speaker 4: There's a little bit of fifty year money, but it's
26:27
Speaker 4: not a long term deal. They'll do that. I don't
26:30
Speaker 4: quite know what that conversation will hold, because once you
26:33
Speaker 4: get into big quarterback money. Precedents don't always apply, so
26:39
Speaker 4: they could figure out, hey, we want to make this work.
26:40
Speaker 4: We would have some incentive to you. I don't know,
26:43
Speaker 4: but I think they wait.
26:45
Speaker 3: I do too, and they have the luxury of the
26:48
Speaker 3: fourth year and then the fifth year option. So they
26:51
Speaker 3: want to pay him. He wants to get paid, but
26:53
Speaker 3: they need to see more and so you now have
26:55
Speaker 3: the chance to improve and take the pressure off. Although
27:00
Speaker 3: there's always pressure with the franchise quarterback, sure.
27:03
Speaker 1: And we'll deal with that as the season moves forward
27:05
Speaker 1: into twenty twenty four. Stay with us. We'll come back
27:08
Speaker 1: after the break. We talk to you a little bit
27:09
Speaker 1: about what's going on in the off season. Here and Taglams.
27:17
Speaker 4: Tags fans.
27:17
Speaker 1: If you want customize Jaguars furniture for your home, checkout
27:20
Speaker 1: zipchaer dot com to browse all the customizable options. Zip
27:22
Speaker 1: Chair is furniture for fans. You also want to take
27:25
Speaker 1: a moment to honor our Florida Lottery High School Scholar
27:28
Speaker 1: Athlete of the Week, Jackson Copeland. Jackson has proven academic excellence,
27:32
Speaker 1: dedication to the community, and demonstrated leadership on and off
27:35
Speaker 1: the field. The Bright Future Scholarship Program, which is primarily
27:38
Speaker 1: funded by the Florida Lottery, assists students in pursuing post
27:41
Speaker 1: secondary educa channel and career goals. Jackson is hoping to
27:45
Speaker 1: attend Florida State next year. Congratulations to Jackson, and we
27:50
Speaker 1: are strongly going to the off season ourselves right now,
27:53
Speaker 1: a little earlier than we would have liked, but we're
27:55
Speaker 1: moving ahead.
27:56
Speaker 4: Now.
27:57
Speaker 1: What are we looking forward to? I'm looking forward to
27:59
Speaker 1: kind of the the search for this coach, right and
28:02
Speaker 1: that'll obviously be the focus right out of the gate,
28:04
Speaker 1: because you got to get someone in here quickly and
28:06
Speaker 1: make sure you get the guy that you want to
28:07
Speaker 1: get and then kind of going from there.
28:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I started building what I just talked about
28:12
Speaker 4: about being nine and eight. There's a feeling that I
28:16
Speaker 4: get from listening to fans like all hope is lost. Right, Well,
28:20
Speaker 4: think about Bryan since I've been back and we've been
28:23
Speaker 4: working together, which has been great, by the way, Well
28:26
Speaker 4: you'd come back in twenty eleven, Well, think about the
28:30
Speaker 4: off seasons that you went in and the roster that
28:33
Speaker 4: it was in some years, this roster has Travis Tn,
28:37
Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence, Josh Allen, Trayvon Walker, Foya, Lukan Evan Ingram.
28:44
Speaker 4: There are pieces there, you know, and there's two outside
28:47
Speaker 4: linebackers are good pieces, Travis etn. You know. My point
28:54
Speaker 4: is there has been years where you were looking for
28:57
Speaker 4: one guy who was on that level, right, So it's
29:01
Speaker 4: not lost. You're not in the drags. You have to
29:05
Speaker 4: figure out a way to make some changes. And basically
29:09
Speaker 4: they figure out way to get the message across that
29:11
Speaker 4: don't stay out of your own way. If they can
29:15
Speaker 4: rebuild that, the future can still be bright. But there's
29:20
Speaker 4: work ahead at the same.
29:21
Speaker 3: Time, Josh and Calvin, just because the Salur Cavin general
29:26
Speaker 3: Calvin because it impacks the draft strategy.
29:28
Speaker 1: Sooner than later, so you can figure everything else out.
29:30
Speaker 1: I'd imagine as well, we're gonna take a brief break
29:33
Speaker 1: here on Jagsam. We're gonna take a couple of weeks off,
29:35
Speaker 1: but we'll be back after the super Bowl, so don't
29:38
Speaker 1: we won't be without us for the whole off season,
29:41
Speaker 1: but we'll take a couple of weeks off and then
29:42
Speaker 1: we'll be back as we dive into that off season
29:44
Speaker 1: and what they're gonna be working on. And we thank
29:45
Speaker 1: you as always for joining us here on jag Zam.
29:47
Speaker 1: See soon