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The Samson threshold meets the energy century · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

• 0:12
  Hello, this is Todd Royal.
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  I'm your host of Geopower Energy and Real Politics.
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  I want to call this episode today the never again episode.
• 0:27
  There's been some really interesting remarks that have come, whether it's from the left, whether it's from the right, um, folks like whether it's Meghan Kelly, Tucker Carlson, um, kind of the your usual folks at CNN.
• 0:42
  And, you know, it's either we hate Donald Trump, and so we don't like anything he does, or we're MAGA, we're America first, why are we doing this?
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  Israel's running the United States, and we're Netanyahu made Donald Trump attack, and why are we doing this?
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  And why are we dropping bombs in Iran?
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  And there's an affordability issue.
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  So, you know, why are we doing all this?
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  This is just this is stupid, this is crazy.
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  Um blah, blah, blah.
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  I'm gonna take this a step farther and go, probably all of them have a valid point.
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  Um, I don't really agree with the points, you know, the left does.
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  Bill Morrow had, you know, talked to Senator Adam Schiff and you know, said, hey, is this something you guys want to do?
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  And he goes, No, this is way too vague.
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  Bill Maher reads a quote from uh President Obama, why he, you know, the justification for bombing Libya, and it made Adam Schiff look really stupid.
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  Um personally, I don't like those kind of things.
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  Uh, I don't care for Adam Schiff at all, but you're kind of trapping somebody.
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  Maybe you may go, well, I'm glad he got trapped.
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  He's a liar and a cheat and a scumbag, et cetera.
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  Okay.
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  Okay, that's your point of view.
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  I'd probably go more towards that point of view for Senator Schiff.
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  I think he's a lousy public servant, and the people of California are a bunch of democratic dopes who shouldn't be voting for people like him.
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  Okay.
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  Um, then you have people on the right, let's say, like Megan Kelly making valid points.
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  Why are we doing this?
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  Does anybody want to drop a bomb on Iran?
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  Uh Tucker Carlson will bring up wonderful points.
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  Uh, you couldn't ask for a better debater and listen to his things on 9 11 or listen, you know, things you haven't been told about Iran.
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  All valid true points.
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  However, what all of them miss is a number of issues.
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  And let me go over them with you.
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  Number one, you live in a post-World War II liberal-led order.
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  What does that mean?
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  And secondly, just as important as World War II.
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  You live in a world that you are completely soaked in hydrocarbons.
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  What do I mean?
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  80% of everything you do in the world has to do with oil, natural gas, and coal.
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  Um, there's over 6,000 products that come from a barrel of oil, plastics, lubricants, uh, natural gas liquid liquids, things like propane, echoline.
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  Um, when you have a barrel of oil, it's made into jet fuel, it's made into diesel, it's made into gasoline.
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  Um, natural gas is now arguably the best way people want to have um electricity.
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  Uh electricity is growing more and more and more every day.
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  You can't turn on a television anymore without hearing the power demands of AI.
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  Power, power demands of electric vehicles, power demands of a heat pump, power demands of electrification.
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  There's a gross misunderstanding that electricity people seem to think it comes from nowhere.
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  It's just it's just there, like the air is or the sun is or the wind.
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  It's not true.
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  Electricity has to be produced and has to come over trillions of dollars or Euros or rubles or wands, whatever the currency may be that built out the grid to deliver these things.
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  Um 80% of all of that, and when I mean total electricity, that's that's also you it's not just electricity, you have to get into power.
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  Um, you have to get into transportation, you have to get into electricity, which is about 20%.
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  You have to get into industrial processes like process heat and steam.
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  Um you you have to get into mining and refining.
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  How do you make steel concrete, all of these different issues?
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  Um before you can give what's called total energy.
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  Uh, you can look all this up on the uh statistical world review of energy, used to be done by British petroleum.
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  It's no longer done by them, it's done by another group.
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  So when I think about Iran, when I think about, oh, Israel is there, they have manipulated Donald Trump, or um, oh, they manipulated Barack Obama to make a nuclear deal with them that people hated.
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  Some people loved it, some people hated it.
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  Why not do a nuclear deal with them?
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  My God, they uh you're gonna get to see all of their enriched uranium.
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  You're gonna put all these limits on them, but you weren't.
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  Eventually you're gonna be right to this point.
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  And the theory goes, oh, but you're going to they'll give us more time to make friends with them.
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  Okay, great theories.
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  The Iranian people are lovely, wonderful people.
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  I am sure they are.
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  Okay, give me kind of an energy perspective, and we'll come back to that.
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  What do I mean by a post-World War II liberal-led order?
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  The other thing, you look up and you you'll hear people say, um, what's the the aim of the war?
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  What's the what's the reason for it?
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  What's the goals for it?
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  Well, go study World War II.
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  Um, Victor Davis Hansen makes the point that at the Casablanca conference, Joseph Stalin was completely upended and surprised when uh Roosevelt and Churchill said it's total unconditional surrender.
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  Well, wait a minute.
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  I thought it was just to get the Nazis out of Europe.
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  I thought it was just to put the Japanese um out of the Pacific.
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  You're what do you mean total unconditional surrender?
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  Meaning wars have fogs, the fog of war, the famous saying.
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  Um, Clauswitz, who said, you know, war is politics by other means.
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  Means and aims can change.
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  Not saying that's so you're saying you want to just give Donald Trump a blank check.
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  No, but no war is going to be perfect.
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  Um, what we did in Venezuela is about as perfect as it's ever going to get.
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  Um people go, oh, we didn't win Vietnam.
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  Yes, we did win Vietnam.
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  Just go look at how we were doing the Operation Phoenix program, the Democratic Party decided not to fund it.
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  So we lost it.
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  We didn't lose it.
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  It just didn't get funded.
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  Oh, we lost Iraq.
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  Um, disagree with you on that one.
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  Go look at, we were doing assassination uh programs.
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  We were killing uh Shia terrorists at night, so the media wouldn't see it.
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  Uh we were stabilizing the country.
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  George W.
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  Bush got cold feet, uh, didn't really want to listen to John McCain anymore.
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  Barack Obama left the way Joe Biden left Afghanistan.
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  These are all things where you go, okay, you're not living under a post-World War II order anymore.
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  What do I mean by that?
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  I would make the the assertion to you that every problem can be solved.
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  Are you saying that you can cure cancer?
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  Um, if you want to go put enough money towards it, you're gonna severely mitigate it.
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  We know that um exercise, drinking water, out not doing as much alcohol, um, having one sexual partner, typically heterosexual, uh, growing and eating, you know, true organic foods.
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  That's gonna help mitigate the risk of cancer.
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  We don't do it because it's expensive because we don't we'd rather go buy a box of macaroni and cheese and have a cigarette.
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  Okay.
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  What if you outlawed that?
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  In World War II, to give you an example.
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  We said it's going to be total surrender.
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  So, how do you defeat an ideology?
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  How do you defeat the macho chauvinism, Shintu Buddhism of the Japanese Imperial Army?
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  How do you defeat the racist masochistic Jew-hating uh Nazi regime?
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  Well, you say that we're going to blow you to hell.
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  Go read Kurt Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse Five.
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  We bombed Dresden that had zero military value.
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  We killed 50,000 people in a quaint, I believe, medieval wooden city, because Stalin asked us to do it.
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  And uh the Mad Hatter, uh British commander that was in charge of it, bombed it.
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  We bombed it.
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  The Americans bombed it.
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  We blew them to hell.
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  We burned people alive.
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  More people also were killed.
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  By napalm bombs in Tokyo, then we're killed by the atomic bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
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  We burned down and killed about we burned down 80% of Tokyo, which was wood, and we used napalm bombs.
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  In other words, we solved the problem.
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  You killed enough people.
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  You broke the will of people.
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  You drop nuclear bombs because sure, you did not want marines, two to four million uh more Americans to die invading Japan.
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  But what you're trying to do is break somebody's spirit, break their ideology.
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  That's what we did in World War II.
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  We broke the German people.
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  I would tell you that Europe is still suffering from this.
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  The Europeans, they can't decide what they want to be.
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  Are they liberal globalists?
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  Well, they don't drill for any oil.
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  They believe in global warming.
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  They say we're going to mass integrate people because we believe we can be an unassimilated melting pot.
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  I would tell you other people that need to go through therapy that still haven't gotten over World War I or World War II.
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  But what does that all have to do with me calling this the never again episode?
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  Exactly what it comes down to.
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  We know, so let's take the Iranians.
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  So the crazy uh Moolah regime that believes in the 12th Amman that's going to come back and bring on some Islamic utopian heaven for them, that if they just kill enough people and get rid, you know, get rid of the Christians, the Jews, the gays, the women, and they'll all be in perfection.
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  No, it's not how it works.
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  Um think about it from the Israeli point of view.
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  Just think about this.
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  And you allowed yourself to be rounded up and slaughtered because you didn't want to believe a Jew-hating mass murdering maniac, and then you didn't want to believe all the weak Europeans, particularly the French, who helped round you up and have you be gas-laughtered, raped, butchered, or worked to death, or uh holding infants, putting you in a hole and blowing your brains out.
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  Put yourself in their shoes.
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  So what they have said is never again.
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  Never again are we going to allow that to happen.
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  Okay.
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  Now let's put us, put ourselves in the shoes of Donald Trump, or Pete Heggset, or Marco Rubio, or the commander of the Middle East, or the International Atomic Energy Agency, and you say to them, are you getting access to the uranium that the Iranians have enriched?
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  No.
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  Okay.
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  The Iranians have also recently bragged that, hey, we can have enough uranium to make a bomb.
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  And oh, by the way, we will shut down the Strait of Hormuz.
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  We will also bomb the natural gas facility in Qatar that's across from us that one fifth of the world's natural gas that's exported passes through.
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  Remember this.
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  You live in a hydrocarbon world.
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  What you're increasingly living with as well is a natural gas world.
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  Natural gas is also what makes fertilizer.
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  Haberbosch process.
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  You need ammonia as well, but without natural gas, about over half to 60% of the world relies on for food, you're not getting fed.
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  So if I'm the folks of CNN, or if I'm the folks on the right, and full disclosure, uh certainly I listened to Megan Kelly and Tucker Carlson, and they're brilliant.
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  So if this gets to them, please let them know.
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  I think they're both brilliant.
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  But there's not, you're not looking at the full picture.
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  I don't want to go bomb Iranian people, children.
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  Don't want to do it at all.
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  20% of the world's oil and gas passes through the Strait of Hormuz.
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  Now let's let's let's imagine this even further.
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  What happens if the Iranians get a bomb?
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  Let's just say that.
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  What happens if they take that bomb and they blow up Jerusalem?
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  Let's say someone smuggles it in.
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  Okay.
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  Well, we already have seen what the Iranians are capable of.
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  Um, they've killed thousands of Americans in the past 47 years.
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  They've used Hezbollah, Hamas, Islam, you know, the Muslim Brotherhood, Islamic Jihad.
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  Dear Lord in heaven, name your, you know, Al Qaeda's been through Iran, but they have killed Americans.
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  They started off by capturing Americans, taking uh taking the embassy, but you shouldn't do anything to them.
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  What do you, what do you think you're doing?
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  Okay.
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  Then tell me, whether you're on the left or the right, what would you do?
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  You may go, but the North Koreans have a bomb.
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  Well, no, no, no.
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  Now let's get into international relations.
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  The North Koreans are a rational actor.
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  I can deal with them.
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  They are China's proxy.
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  I don't like China, but I can deal with them.
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  I don't like Vladimir Putin, but I can deal with them.
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  What I can't deal with is an axis of China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea running the world.
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  That I can't deal with.
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  But now let's think about Israel.
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  You have said this is never again going to happen.
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  Just, you know, go look at their documents.
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  Never again.
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  It's known they have anywhere between 80 to 200 nuclear weapons.
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  They've never said yes.
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  They've never said no.
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  However, if you say never again for the Palestinians, you know, from the from the something to the sea, we're going to push all of you into the sea.
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  Okay.
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  Well, if Mexico had slaughtered uh, you know, a couple of thousand and cooked alive children in Texas, or they did that in California, how do you think the United States would respond?
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  If six million Americans had been butchered by the Japanese and the Japanese were still our mortal enemy, how do you think we would respond?
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  How do you think, what do you think would happen?
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  Let's say it takes two minutes for uh an ICBM to reach Israel.
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  You know they have radar.
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  You know those missiles are somewhere, those nuclear weapons.
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  Does anyone not think?
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  I mean, I really would.
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  I'd say to Tucker Carlson or Megan Kelly, I'm with you guys.
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  Um I'm America first too.
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  Somebody's got to take care of the world.
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  Who's it gonna be?
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  The French, the British, the Germans, the Chinese.
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  You want the Russians?
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  What about the Indians?
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  They're kind of on our side.
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  What about the Pakistanis?
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  You want them to do it?
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  Um, you think the EU can do it?
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  You think NATO can do it?
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  You guys didn't want to finish wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam.
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  That could have been finished.
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  You could have wiped out every Islamic terrorist.
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  You can do it.
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  Don't tell me you can't.
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  Don't tell me that you can't wipe out Hezbollah.
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  Don't tell me that I can't make the Islamic faith stop being a murderous, gay-hating, Jew-hating, Christian-hating, woman-hating religion.
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  Don't tell me that can't be solved.
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  World War II proves you can solve it.
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  You don't have the political will to solve it.
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  Does anybody think the Jewish nation, the Jewish state, if if an Iranian nuke is coming towards them and they have two minutes, my guess is 100 nuclear weapons are going to be fired throughout the Middle East.
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  And oh, by the way, I've now just taken away about 30% of the world's total energy.
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  We would go into a Great Depression.
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  Oil would be at $20 a gallon.
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  Gasoline, pardon me.
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  Um, your electricity bill could right now, let's say on average, you're paying in the United States, let's just go 12 cents a kilowatt.
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  At that point, you're going to be paying 90 cents a kilowatt.
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  All restaurants, entertainment travel stops.
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  Home sales stop.
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  Stop market stops.
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  Just name it.
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  Food prices.
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  People will go hungry.
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  The reason you go into Iran is you live in a post-World War II order in your entire world.
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  You eat it, you drink it, you sleep it with it, you have frankly sex with it, oil, hydrocarbons, natural gas, coal.
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  You would have frozen to death in the United States if you did not have coal.
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  If anyone thinks renewables work, they don't.
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  I hope they do someday.
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  I really do.
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  I hope the wind and the sun, which is a free marginal cost will work, but it doesn't.
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  Do you think those solar panels are made for free?
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  They're made by Chinese coal-fired power plants, which are some of the dirtiest in the world.
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  Your electric battery vehicle, it all
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  All stops.
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  You have a couple of nuclear weapons go off.
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  And oil reaches 300, 400, 600 a barrel.
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  Market stop trading.
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  Go read Bill O'Reilly's Killing Jesus with the gentleman who does it, I believe it's in Martin Huggard.
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  Go read what the world was like under Roman rule.
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  Go read what the world was like.
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  The disgusting, wicked, evil, short-lived, brutal existence that most of mankind has had when there was no energy.
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  What World War II gave us.
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  What it really gave us was a world where we said we're not going to blow each other to hell anymore.
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  We're going to trade with each other.
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  We're going to try to do business with each other.
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  Why do you think the Chinese and Americans don't go to war with each other?
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  Sure, we both have nuclear weapons, but we also have so much business with each other.
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  Sure, there's kids that come over and they steal American secrets and sure American businesses open up factories there and sell their soul.
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  Well, I would tell you also it brings peace.
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  A lot of Chinese communist officials want to go send their children to pepperdyne, Stanford, TCU, University of Michigan, Harvard, University of Miami, Clemson, University of Oklahoma, Vanderbilt, and a lot of American companies go, I want access to over a billion people.
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  And then I want to be next to another billion people in India.
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  Well, when you start to do that, then a whole lot of Chinese people are making a whole lot of money off those American companies.
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  And a whole lot of people are being paid a really good wage, and all of a sudden they're traveling, they're buying homes, cars, um, clothes, things that the Chinese people have never had.
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  When I think about different people right now are going, oh, it's the Jews.
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  They're running America.
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  CNN does the same thing.
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  MSN MS Now, the Atlantic.
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  Same thing with folks on the right.
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  You're never considering in looking at World War II.
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  You're never considering that these problems can be solved.
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  Problems can be solved by the military.
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  Make no mistake about it.
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  We won World War II because we blew people to hell.
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  Now, in defense of Mr.
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  Vonnegut.
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  Uh, it's so traumatized him.
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  He since we became an anti, you know, an anti-war person.
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  I'd I'm sure I'd be traumatized as well if I was the person that walked into a city with 50,000 people who've been incinerated for the very reason of we don't like the Nazis.
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  We're going to teach you a lesson.
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  So we're just, we're going to kill you to teach you a lesson and a break and ideology.
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  That's a really hard thing to even say, but that's the truth.
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  You want to break the ideology of Islam, you can do it.
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  You want to break Boko Haram.
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  You want to break Al Qaeda.
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  You even want to break the Chinese Communist Party, you can break them.
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  World War II shows that every problem can be solved.
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  I would make the argument right now, that's exactly what we're doing.
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  It's exactly what we're doing.
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  And then you add the hydrocarbon issue into it.
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  Again, fancy term for oil, natural gas, and coal.
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  And then all the derivatives that come out of that, whether it's plastics or natural gas liquids, you know, propane, um, the things you do with the natural gas, coal.
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  You do all of that.
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  You take 20% of it away from the world.
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  Let me tell you what, if if this thing's still going on six months from now, the Chinese will come in.
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  Frankly, the Chinese will have to come in in three months from now.
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  Um, they get a lot of their oil from the Middle East.
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  Uh they'll either join us or they will come against us, but make no mistake.
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  Don't don't ever be naive enough to think the world can run on sunshine and wind.
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  It cannot.
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  And in our lifetime, it likely never it never will until you can figure out the second law of thermodynamics, until you can figure out the physics of it, the engineering of it, the chemistry of it, to you can figure out storage.
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  It never works.
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  But what this really really truly comes down to is this whole thing of the Jew, the Israeli state.
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  If anybody thinks that they are going to allow themselves to be pushed into the sea, or they're going to be incinerated, and I get it, they've got their own left-wing people, and then they've got their ultra-orthodox people that don't serve in the military.
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  Well, let me tell you what, you've got a couple million people or more that are armed to the teeth.
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  Um, Victor Davis Hansen said that they have more airplanes, like military aircraft, fighter jets, than the British, the French, or the Germans.
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  Almost more than all of them combined.
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  If they saw one nuclear weapon coming their way, they'll launch 100.
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  I think their point would be okay, it's about to hit us, it's about to blow up Jerusalem for the next, you know, 2,000, 6,000, 10,000 years, radiological fallout.
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  Um, you're gonna kill most Jews in the world that are in Israel.
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  Never again.
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  If we die, you're coming with us.
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  Before we go to the break, I want to give you something interesting to ponder.
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  If you've never visited the Holocaust Museum in Washington, D.C., I would say go do it.
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  Uh very sobering account.
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  Um, I've been told that the Rwandan museums that talk about the Hootie, you know, Houtin Tutsi slaughter, kind of some of the same feelings.
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  But I remember I've I've been there twice in DC.
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  And I one time went into one of the rail cars that had a rail car that had been used to either take people to Dreblinka or Auschwitz.
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  And they would talk the thing, normal rail car, let's just say 200 people are crammed in there.
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  They said people would suffocate to death.
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  They would uh disease because people obviously would be uh defecating and urinating on one another, and they couldn't stand when it was hot, they'd suffocate cold, you could freeze to death.
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  So all these things they're doing to try to kill these people.
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  And I remember think I said this to myself once.
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  I said, I would have never allowed that.
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  I said, you're not gonna put me and my children and my wife in there.
• 27:00
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• 27:01
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• 27:04
  So if I'd been dumb enough to not leave, I'd been like, no.
• 27:10
  If I'm gonna die, you're gonna come with me.
• 27:14
  Well, go look at Israeli military doctrine.
• 27:17
  It's a little, it has some of the frameworks to me of the Russian military doctrine, which says, you know, the Russians say that they can use battlefield nukes.
• 27:24
  Okay.
• 27:25
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• 27:27
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• 27:29
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• 27:31
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• 27:42
  Oh, the Jews, oh, the Jews.
• 27:44
  And Israel is is making America do all of these things.
• 27:49
  It's comical to me.
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• 32:58
  I have a very think.
• 33:08
  And what I mean by that is that the Jewish people say never again after the Holocaust.
• 33:14
  Never again.
• 33:15
  And we've heard people on the left and the right, particularly the right.
• 33:19
  Oh, this is against MAGA.
• 33:20
  Oh, you know, what do we what do you have against the Iranian people?
• 33:23
  We shouldn't drop bombs on them.
• 33:25
  Well, then you're the same idiots who said go bomb the Donbass in Ukraine, which by the way, if I asked most of you where the Donbass was, we wouldn't know.
• 33:37
  Which is always funny.
• 33:38
  The CNN crowd.
• 33:39
  I didn't get this as much on the right, but the CNN crowd, the MS MS now crowd, um, they're talking about these things like um, oh, go bomb the hell out of Ukraine.
• 33:51
  Or I've got a I've got a good friend from high school, she's very left-wing and put up the Ukrainian flag, or my former pastor, we stand with Ukraine.
• 34:00
  And I remember looking over going, do any of them know where the Donbass is located, and that's a majority Russian speaking people, and Ukraine was actually partitioned out of Russia and on it, oh, and there actually are Nazis, there's Nazis in Ukraine.
• 34:15
  Does anybody realize that?
• 34:17
  Um I'm not saying he's right, but he's got a point.
• 34:21
  So before we go, oh my God, why are we bombing the Iranian people?
• 34:26
  Okay, then why the hell are we bombing the Ukrainian people?
• 34:30
  Um so let's, you know, let's let's realize that little let's realize that little factoid as well.
• 34:38
  Um we think about this, I'm gonna get back to when we get back.
• 34:48
  I'm gonna get back to what I just what I just talked about, which is this.
• 34:59
  Never again.
• 35:07
  I'm gonna hammer this home, and I'm gonna say this over and over and over again.
• 35:11
  If the Iranians get a nuclear weapon, and remember these are fanatics like the Nazis.
• 35:17
  Fanatics like the Imperial Japanese, fanatics like Mao who killed a hundred million people, Paul Pott, Stalin.
• 35:28
  What do you think they're going to do with the nuclear weapon?
• 35:34
  Do any of them think?
• 35:37
  Does anybody on the right?
• 35:38
  Anybody on the left?
• 35:40
  Um these kind of alternative media commentators.
• 35:44
  Do you think you you the the problem is when you live in a post-World War II order and you have a fully interconnected world, you're not allowed to just say America first.
• 35:56
  That is a naive, childlike statement.
• 35:59
  I'm all for America for America first.
• 36:02
  It's like the same, it's like an environmentalist who goes, I want clean air, so get rid of all hydrocarbons.
• 36:07
  Okay.
• 36:08
  Okay.
• 36:09
  You want to go camp?
• 36:11
  You do you do you want to get rid of the whole modern world?
• 36:15
  Okay, great.
• 36:16
  If that's what you want to do, then go read the introduction to Michael Novak's The Spirit of Democratic Capitalism, realize what the world was like before the industrial revolution.
• 36:26
  Look at what the world was like before World War II.
• 36:30
  Look at us as isolationists and see that.
• 36:33
  Now look at the world with a nuclear weapon.
• 36:37
  You do not live in a world where you get to to put your blinders on.
• 36:41
  You do not get to be an AOC or Charles Schumer or a Thomas Massey.
• 36:47
  Um, and it's brilliant.
• 36:48
  And please, if if Tucker Carlson hears this, you are a brilliant person.
• 36:52
  Uh I have loved your work since you were at CNN and MSNBC, Megan Kelly.
• 36:59
  You are a beautiful talented person, but I think both of you got it completely wrong right now.
• 37:06
  In World War II, the Jews were slaughtered.
• 37:10
  They're never gonna let it happen again.
• 37:13
  You live in the Bretton Woods Agreement world, which is the U.S.
• 37:16
  led liberal world order.
• 37:20
  Which has been hijacked by the liberal globalists of the world, like the Tom Steyers, the the you know, the Brussels crowd, uh the Michael Bloomberg's, these people who think they know better, which really came from Woodrow Wilson's, uh, the administrative state where they think, you know, the experts, which actually comes from Plato's The Republic, which is, you know, are you a gold, silver, or bronze?
• 37:42
  This is a this is the oldest argument in the world.
• 37:45
  But guess what?
• 37:47
  All of it doesn't hold up anymore.
• 37:51
  Because your world is completely run by oil, natural gas, and coal, and you live in a world that was set up for you post-1946.
• 38:00
  This is a fully integrated world now.
• 38:03
  So you're telling me in a world that is a wash in oil and natural gas, these prices are going through the roof right now.
• 38:12
  They shouldn't be.
• 38:13
  There's plenty of oil, plenty of natural gas.
• 38:15
  If you don't believe me, go look at you know, geological surveys, go uh go read uh statistical world review of of energy, go look at energy information uh energy information administration reports, which is part of the U.S.
• 38:30
  Department of Energy, go read all of it.
• 38:31
  It's easy to find.
• 38:35
  You can't allow them to have a bomb.
• 38:37
  You can't allow them to even joke about having a bomb.
• 38:40
  Iran.
• 38:41
  So if Israel says we're gonna go do this and we want your help, unfortunately, you have to say yes.
• 38:48
  That means you have to like it.
• 38:50
  I don't like it at all.
• 38:52
  But the problem can be solved.
• 38:54
  Make no mistake.
• 38:57
  You can solve the Iranium problem.
• 39:00
  How many people are you willing to kill to do it?
• 39:03
  And unfortunately, it's gonna be children, it's gonna be old people, and it's gonna be splashed all over social media and the media these days.
• 39:11
  Go look at the carnage of World War II.
• 39:15
  God, go look at the carnage of the Vietnam War.
• 39:20
  But the problem can be solved.
• 39:22
  But to say we shouldn't be bombing this and we shouldn't be bombing that, then I would say, and I'm sure Megan Kelly and Tucker have probably both read it.
• 39:32
  Go read Vonnegut Slaughterhouse 5.
• 39:37
  Go read it.
• 39:40
  I hate to tell people there were people here in America before we were here.
• 39:46
  We slaughtered them to take it.
• 39:50
  Horrible to say, but that's what happened.
• 39:54
  There's a niacity that goes on these days, and frankly, it's on both sides that you don't.
• 40:00
  Really want to look at the world the way it is.
• 40:02
  You don't really, really want to go, you know what people actually really respond to the end of a barrel of a gun or a nuclear tridad tipped in their direction.
• 40:13
  Or the US Seventh Fleet or the USS Gerald Ford steaming your way and going to blow you to hell.
• 40:22
  And the Iranians will go, well, the only thing you people understand is us shutting down the Strait of Hormuz and call it causing you economic carnage.
• 40:30
  And they are correct.
• 40:32
  You want to stop that?
• 40:34
  You blow them to hell.
• 40:36
  You want to say we don't like those rules?
• 40:38
  Those rules were made up for you over 80 years ago through the Bretton Woods Agreement that integrated the entire world.
• 40:43
  That's why when the strait shuts down, the entire world, they are freaking out.
• 40:48
  Now, that's to also with bad energy policy.
• 40:53
  You you have all this ridiculous environmentalists these days that frankly, all those people should be done away with.
• 41:00
  You believe in climate change and global warming, and you're more worried about what Rachel Maddow thinks than having a true clean balance sheet that can actually go build coal-fired power plants.
• 41:10
  So you have stable energy and electricity when it's minus 10 degrees.
• 41:18
  To say that any of them should be listened to right now, I'd say, then tell me what you do about World War II.
• 41:24
  Those people in Israel were slaughtered.
• 41:27
  They have fought war after war after war.
• 41:30
  They are armed to the teeth.
• 41:31
  And oh, by the way, they have anywhere between 80 to 200 nuclear weapons, and they would fire every single one of them off if they could.
• 41:41
  If these people are attacked, make no mistake.
• 41:45
  They're firing their, they're going to fire their weapons.
• 41:54
  I want to say to these folks too, tell me what you're going to do with that energy.
• 42:00
  I have the pleasure of having a very good friend who has been in the special forces.
• 42:06
  Knows his way around guns.
• 42:08
  I've watched them shoot a gun.
• 42:10
  It's it's incredible to watch.
• 42:12
  Told me about some of his training being, you know, literally thrown out in the middle of nowhere for weeks at a time and he can survive.
• 42:19
  Knows how to, you know, find water, make fires, the foods to eat.
• 42:23
  Um kind of reminds me of a you know, quote from the first Rambo when he said, you know, Rambo ate food that would make a Billy would make a Billy Goat puke.
• 42:31
  This guy knows how to do all that.
• 42:33
  I've written a book, written three of them.
• 42:36
  One of them was called just green electricity, not the grid when it has just renewables on it.
• 42:42
  Or I didn't look at hydrogen, but I really focus on um the wind and the sun, solar panels and wind turbines.
• 42:50
  And I looked at some disaster scenarios.
• 42:52
  And I remember talking to my friend one time about it.
• 42:55
  I said, talk to me if there's a real blackout.
• 42:58
  He goes, well, you tell me what happens.
• 42:59
  And I said, Oh, voltage gets trapped in wires, and depending on if it's a blackout or a brown out, but a real blackout, you'll take at least a year to get the electricity back up at the bare minimum three months.
• 43:10
  And he goes, Well, that's going to be a problem.
• 43:12
  I go, Oh, tell me why.
• 43:14
  He goes, Well, um, we we used to say that you are nine meals from chaos.
• 43:22
  So that means three days.
• 43:24
  Nine meals from chaos.
• 43:27
  Okay.
• 43:29
  Then let's have the Iranians drop a nuclear weapon on the Israelis and the Israelis fire off, let's just say they fire off 10.
• 43:40
  Completely obliterate Iran and we have fall out around Iranian countries.
• 43:46
  Afghanistan, China, uh, Iraq, Syria.
• 43:52
  Uh let's say there's some fallout, goes across the Strait of Hormuz.
• 43:56
  So let's say right there, I've just knocked off Saudi Arabia.
• 44:02
  Let's say I get rid of 30, I'll be conservative.
• 44:05
  30% of all the world's oil and natural gas.
• 44:12
  Okay, let's now let's play this out.
• 44:15
  This is where, again, all of these people on the left and the right.
• 44:18
  None of them will talk about this because I don't think any of them understand it.
• 44:21
  Okay, you don't want to drop bombs in our Iranian school children.
• 44:25
  Neither do I.
• 44:27
  But I have crazy mullahs who are now saying they've got a bomb and they know they'll use it, they want to use it against Israel, or they want to continue to kill more Americans or Europeans.
• 44:36
  Okay.
• 44:38
  Back to our little nuke story again.
• 44:41
  If that were to be the case, the thing you would begin to do is you'd use coal.
• 44:47
  Thing America would do, they would stop exporting all natural gas, you'd suspend all exports globally and use it domestically.
• 44:54
  The Europeans are out of energy.
• 44:56
  The Europeans would begin dying off, having riots or being slaughtered by their Muslim populations.
• 45:03
  Um my guess is you would see full-blown wars in places like France.
• 45:09
  Paris could be taken over by their Islamic population, most military-age men, uh, but that's through the entire EU, Britain.
• 45:18
  So let's say all of the EU and England fell to their immigrant population.
• 45:29
  Okay, let's just say that.
• 45:32
  And let's say on the top of it, they decided to kill 25 million of those people in the midst of taking over Europe in their rage of the Jew killing uh the Muslim.
• 45:46
  Okay, now I just took off 450 million people.
• 45:52
  Uh, and the world, one of the world financial centers in London is now offline.
• 45:58
  Okay.
• 46:02
  Is everyone tracking with me here?
• 46:05
  That this has nothing, you know.
• 46:06
  Oh, we don't want to drop bombs on Iranian school children.
• 46:11
  Oh, why are we dropping bombs?
• 46:14
  Because they're not thinking about the bigger picture.
• 46:16
  You're never thinking about that.
• 46:19
  You live in a post-World War II order.
• 46:22
  This is not America in 1938 or 1920.
• 46:30
  This is not an agrarian, this is not an agrarian society.
• 46:35
  This is not how my grandmother grew up where we had the milkman and the iceman.
• 46:42
  Um, you know, she barely had any indoor plumbing.
• 46:47
  She had a, she had a, you know, there was a well down the street, and then people had uh farms.
• 46:54
  We are in the age of the leisure and luxury, but more importantly, we are an interconnected world.
• 47:02
  If you really go, why don't the Chinese really, really just come attack us and get it over with?
• 47:08
  You'd lose too much money.
• 47:10
  Their economy would collapse.
• 47:12
  There'd be civil wars and riots.
• 47:18
  It's go just go look at the amount of daily trade.
• 47:22
  Go look at the amount of uh airplanes per day.
• 47:26
  What's it 20?
• 47:27
  Sometimes more, 20,000 flights a day.
• 47:31
  Um, go look at any flight tracker at any moment and see the amount of air traffic and the amount of people they're taking all over the world.
• 47:40
  Look at the amount of um refineries, terminals, regasification plants, LNG shipping, oil tankers.
• 47:50
  Look where coal is mined, look where it's used.
• 47:52
  What about all the companies that support 80% of all the energy usage in the world?
• 47:58
  Um, you're gonna go mine uranium, and so you're either going to start building nuclear power plants, which it take at least five years to bring on the very quickest is five to six years, or you're gonna start burning coal in copious amounts that will absolutely overwhelm the amounts that were used, obviously, during the industrial revolution.
• 48:20
  You want to do that?
• 48:22
  You you you're you're ready to do that.
• 48:28
  There's there's a there's a childishness to all of this.
• 48:32
  There's a that there's an absolute childishness to all of this.
• 48:38
  Um, oh, we shouldn't be doing this.
• 48:42
  I I wish we didn't do it either.
• 48:45
  But tell me what you're going to do about a post-World War II order.
• 48:51
  Don't tell me we can't win because you can win.
• 48:54
  You just don't have the political will to win.
• 48:57
  And don't tell me that, oh, we can just we can just be America first.
• 49:02
  I can assure you right now, this is very America first.
• 49:05
  Um will the will there be mistakes?
• 49:08
  Absolutely.
• 49:09
  Will we know what are the exact goals that we're gonna spreadsheet it out?
• 49:13
  No.
• 49:14
  That also is a childish thing.
• 49:16
  I always love what did Mike Tyson say everybody has a plan until they get hit in the mouth, or the other one is, you know, you you better have a you better have a plan for a tiger's teeth if you kick them in the butt.
• 49:29
  The Iranians have been kicking the Jews and the Americans in the butt now for 47 years.
• 49:37
  Thousands of Americans have been killed by by the Iranian mulah regime.
• 49:42
  And I'm intelligent enough to realize there's a difference in the government of Iran and the people of Iran.
• 49:49
  Do I think the people can rise up and take over?
• 49:52
  No, I don't.
• 49:53
  Do I think the security forces and the if they're called the Mujah, they're, you know, they have 600,000.
• 50:00
  Person, almost like a volunteer type army force.
• 50:05
  They have the Iranian revolutionary guards, the cud force.
• 50:10
  It almost reminds me, you know, similar to there was the Vermak, the regular German army, and then VSS, the Nazis, the true believers.
• 50:18
  They've got their true believers, they've got their police force and military, and then you have the RRGC, you know, our Iranian revolutionary guard corps.
• 50:27
  Rahra rah.
• 50:31
  Do I think most Iranians are part of that?
• 50:33
  Of course not.
• 50:36
  Just like I don't think that over a billion and a half Chinese people are really invested in the Chinese Communist Party.
• 50:45
  Typically, I've read before there's about 110 to 90 million of them that are truly invested and are truly the ones who are surveillance state that would slit their throats in a second if they said one thing against the Chinese Communist Party.
• 51:01
  So let's stop being childish.
• 51:03
  Can we stop the why are we bombing Iranian schools?
• 51:07
  Well, I would say, why did you?
• 51:09
  Why did you decide to follow a radical theology that's based on a radical book that talks about slaughtering and killing people and enslaving them if I don't follow your religion?
• 51:25
  Okay.
• 51:27
  Yeah, wish the bomb didn't go there.
• 51:29
  And if we did it, it's horrible.
• 51:31
  Should be investigated if it was done maliciously.
• 51:34
  But can we also maybe talk about what y'all have been doing for 47 years?
• 51:39
  That's what also kills me too about folks on the left and the right.
• 51:42
  You never bring anything into context.
• 51:44
  You never talk about all the people they've slaughtered for 47 years, all the the use of proxies like Hamas, which slaughtered over 2,000 Jews.
• 51:53
  I mean, go read what those savages did.
• 51:58
  They all should be hunted down and killed.
• 52:03
  God bless the IDF for doing it.
• 52:05
  But go read what Hamas and the Palestinians did.
• 52:11
  And I get it.
• 52:11
  People go, we don't know what they've done to us, and they've enslaved us.
• 52:15
  Well, I disagree with you on that.
• 52:16
  Go read Arafat's, go read the book Arafat's War.
• 52:20
  Um, I can't remember the the author's name.
• 52:23
  Talks about, do you know, at one point, uh, what's considered the Palestinian territories had more, I think it was PhDs and universities than Israel did.
• 52:34
  They had all sorts of higher uh rates of um, like rates of education, uh, income attainment, marriage.
• 52:45
  I mean, their society was thriving.
• 52:47
  You decided to let in Yasser Airfat, and all hell is broken loose sense.
• 52:54
  Oh, it just it it's it's infuriating to me with this kind of stuff.
• 52:59
  You live in a post World War II order, which means you're interconnected because you're trying to not have another global war.
• 53:09
  You live in a world that every the thing you actually interact with the most is not your spouse, your partner, your boyfriend, your girlfriend, um, your different gender.
• 53:23
  Um, whether you are the most transgender global warming person on the left or the most MAGA Christian fundamentalists on the right, you both have one thing in common.
• 53:36
  You interact with oil, natural gas, and coal, aka hydrocarbons, every single day of your life.
• 53:46
  The thing you interact with the most is energy.
• 53:49
  You interact with it more than God, Jesus, Allah, the Torah, Hinduism, Scientology, Mormonism.
• 54:01
  You you in you you're with it more than you are with your children, anything.
• 54:05
  You interact with it more than you do your job, you name it, your entire entire existence.
• 54:13
  If you have access to an electrical grid, or if you're the one billion or so people, plus some folks in the Middle East and sporadically in other parts of the world that have access to stable oil, natural gas, and coal.
• 54:29
  That is what you interact with the most.
• 54:31
  That is what you use the most.
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  That is actually what is keeping you alive.
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  That's what's keeping you thriving.
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  That is why you are married.
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  That is why you are religious, have a boyfriend, have a girlfriend, have a job.
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  It is frankly why you are even breathing right now.
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  Is oil, natural gas, and coal.
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  And so to sit there and be and to question the the very way that it's even brought to you.
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  Shame on you.
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  Maybe not even shame on you.
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  You have zero understanding, in my opinion, of the way the world works.
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  And frankly, factually.
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  You will wish that you can find some clean water.
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  You will wish that you knew how to camp and cover up whenever you use the bathroom.
• 55:58
  And your skin can take staying outside, or at least living in a hot or a cold house.
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  Oh, which eventually, when blackouts occur, your house will eventually rot away, and it will cause either to make it unlivable or hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of repairs will be needed.
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  We live in a world right now.
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  We live in a media world right now where you want to get clicks.
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  You want to sell ads, a subscription.
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  We don't live in a world where we go, I have to really look at things for what they really are.
• 56:37
  My name is Todd Royal.
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  I am the host of Geopower, Energy, and Real Politics.
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  Thank you so much for listening, and God bless you.