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- 1:20Speaker 1: dot Great Detectives dot nit Now. From April twelfth, nineteen
- 1:24Speaker 1: fifty one, here is the Big Threat.
- 1:36Speaker 2: The story you were about to hear is true, only
- 1:39Speaker 2: the names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're
- 1:50Speaker 2: a detective sergeant. You're assigned to robbery detail. A middle
- 1:54Speaker 2: aged businessman in your city has robbed and beaten senseless,
- 1:58Speaker 2: The hold up men escape, the victim refuses to report
- 2:01Speaker 2: the crime. Your job investigate.
- 2:14Speaker 3: Dragnet, the documented drama of an actual crime. For the
- 2:18Speaker 3: next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department,
- 2:22Speaker 3: you will travel step by step on the side of
- 2:24Speaker 3: the law through an actual case transcribed from official police files,
- 2:28Speaker 3: from beginning to end, from crime to punishment. Dragnet is
- 2:32Speaker 3: the story of your police force in action.
- 2:38Speaker 4: It was Tuesday, October eighth, was overcast in Los Angeles.
- 2:42Speaker 4: We were working the day Watch out of Robbery detail.
- 2:45Speaker 4: My partner's Ben Romero. The boss is Captain Bideon. My
- 2:48Speaker 4: name is Friday. Was eleven twenty three am when we
- 2:51Speaker 4: got to seven hundred South Hill Boulevards, the Butler Accordion
- 2:54Speaker 4: Studios thing. Oh, I don't know, it must be upstairs,
- 3:02Speaker 4: I guess, huh oh, yeah, yeah, there it is main office,
- 3:04Speaker 4: second floor. Yeah. Who is that?
- 3:11Speaker 5: Joe right, had portrait up there on the wall in
- 3:14Speaker 5: a minute, some printing underneath here, nice finny, that says
- 3:20Speaker 5: Damian the father of the Accordion Vienna eighteen twenty nine.
- 3:24Speaker 5: What do you know about that? Must be it down there? Huh, yeah,
- 3:34Speaker 5: I want to try. Yeah, yes, sir.
- 3:39Speaker 4: Are you Lewis Butler?
- 3:45Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right. Can I help you?
- 3:47Speaker 4: Police officers? Mister Butler like talk to you for a minute.
- 3:50Speaker 4: Is your name Friday, Yes, sir, that's right, that's my partner,
- 3:53Speaker 4: Sergeant Romero.
- 3:54Speaker 7: How do you do?
- 3:55Speaker 6: I'm sorry, sergeant, I told you on the floor and
- 3:57Speaker 6: I just don't want to talk about it.
- 3:58Speaker 4: We'd appreciate it if we could have your cooperation. It's
- 4:00Speaker 4: pretty important matter.
- 4:01Speaker 6: Well, I'm the only one concerning it as far as
- 4:03Speaker 6: I can see. I just assume forget the whole thing. Besides,
- 4:06Speaker 6: I got a pretty busy day ahead of me.
- 4:08Speaker 4: Well, we'd like to straighten me out, mister Butler. Concerns
- 4:10Speaker 4: a lot more people than just yourself. No, we're not
- 4:12Speaker 4: going to take much of your time. Just a few questions.
- 4:14Speaker 6: That's all I told you on the phone, Sergeant, I
- 4:16Speaker 6: don't want to talk about it. Can't you just forget
- 4:18Speaker 6: about the whole thing.
- 4:19Speaker 4: It's only going to take a few minutes there, all right,
- 4:22Speaker 4: come in if you want, thank you.
- 4:25Speaker 6: Places in kind of a mess. Wife's away to mother's.
- 4:30Speaker 6: You can sit down if you want. Oh, thank you
- 4:32Speaker 6: very much. All right, Pepper, I'll feed you just a minute.
- 4:38Speaker 4: It's some nice cats you got there, Siamese a little bit.
- 4:42Speaker 6: Yeah, it's my wife's. Don't care too much for cats myself.
- 4:50Speaker 6: All right, Pepper, No, wait a minute, dude knows that.
- 4:59Speaker 6: Heny go, Pepper to hold you for a while.
- 5:04Speaker 7: Look at that.
- 5:05Speaker 4: Jill sure goes for that mail confidence, he sure does.
- 5:08Speaker 6: I'm gonna have to make it fast, Sergeant, I got
- 5:10Speaker 6: appointment for lunch down town.
- 5:12Speaker 4: All right, sir, I'd just like to have you elaborate
- 5:13Speaker 4: on what doctor Hart told us.
- 5:15Speaker 6: Is he your family doctor, by the way, Yeah, that's right.
- 5:17Speaker 6: He had no business calling you in the first place.
- 5:19Speaker 6: I told him I didn't want it to get out.
- 5:22Speaker 6: What'd he tell you?
- 5:23Speaker 5: He said you came to him for treatment night before last.
- 5:25Speaker 5: He told him you had been beaten up and robbed.
- 5:27Speaker 5: He treated you for cuts and bruises about the face
- 5:30Speaker 5: and head.
- 5:30Speaker 6: No, it was nothing, didn't amount anything.
- 5:32Speaker 4: Well, was there actually a robbery, mister Butler?
- 5:35Speaker 6: Believe me, sergeant, it didn't amount anything. I don't even
- 5:37Speaker 6: want to go into it.
- 5:38Speaker 4: How much did the robbery involve money?
- 5:39Speaker 6: I mean, I'd rather not say. I don't want any
- 5:42Speaker 6: fuss mate about it. That's why I didn't report it.
- 5:44Speaker 6: Just thisn't worth it to me.
- 5:45Speaker 4: We understand the hold up man took more than eight
- 5:47Speaker 4: hundred dollars from me. Wouldn't you like to get that
- 5:50Speaker 4: money back?
- 5:50Speaker 6: I don't want to be nasty about this thing, but
- 5:52Speaker 6: I was the one who was held up. Now, if
- 5:54Speaker 6: I don't want to press the case, I don't see
- 5:55Speaker 6: why anyone else should worry about it. It was my money.
- 5:57Speaker 4: How about the beating of the thieves gave you?
- 5:59Speaker 6: It's nothing serious. It's like I told you on the phone,
- 6:02Speaker 6: I want to forget about the whole thing.
- 6:03Speaker 4: Well, it must have been involved more than just a
- 6:04Speaker 4: few scratches from the looks of you, and the doctor
- 6:06Speaker 4: had to treat you.
- 6:07Speaker 6: Take my word for a police. I'm all right. I
- 6:09Speaker 6: don't want to press charges.
- 6:11Speaker 5: Appreciate it if you'd give us some kind of an explanation,
- 6:13Speaker 5: Miss Butler.
- 6:14Speaker 6: Why I don't want to bother that's all. There's nothing
- 6:16Speaker 6: to explain.
- 6:17Speaker 4: But you would have to admit that this is a
- 6:18Speaker 4: little unusual. Somebody beats you up, slugs you, takes eight
- 6:20Speaker 4: hundred dollars from you, and you don't want to do
- 6:22Speaker 4: anything about it.
- 6:23Speaker 6: You're going to have to excuse me a minute. I
- 6:25Speaker 6: have one of my accordion students down the hall in
- 6:27Speaker 6: the practice room, almost time for him to go. I
- 6:29Speaker 6: have to give him his lesson for next week, all right,
- 6:31Speaker 6: So go out ahead. It'd long to be a me.
- 6:37Speaker 7: How about that?
- 6:38Speaker 4: Yeah, it acts like you're scared to dead. Well, whoever
- 6:41Speaker 4: it was, they gave him a going over half of
- 6:44Speaker 4: his head and bandage, his face all swollen. Sure, something funny. Well,
- 6:49Speaker 4: he's not going to be much help unless we can
- 6:51Speaker 4: talk him into a crime report. Somebody's got to him.
- 6:53Speaker 7: I'm bet on it.
- 6:54Speaker 4: Oh Ti there, kiddy, Hi kitty.
- 6:58Speaker 6: I've been thinking it over. Officers. Sorry, I had to
- 7:01Speaker 6: come out here go to all this trouble, but I
- 7:02Speaker 6: just as soon forget the whole thing. I don't even
- 7:04Speaker 6: want to talk about it, if you don't mind.
- 7:06Speaker 4: We don't mean the high pressure you butler, but we
- 7:08Speaker 4: like some kind of an explanation.
- 7:09Speaker 6: Can't you understand. I just don't want to make a
- 7:11Speaker 6: big fuss about it. I'd like to have you go
- 7:13Speaker 6: along with my feelings in the matter. It's my affair,
- 7:15Speaker 6: isn't it.
- 7:16Speaker 4: No, sir, it's ours too. Half a dozen people like yourself.
- 7:19Speaker 4: I have been beaten up and robbed in this neighborhood
- 7:21Speaker 4: all in the last five weeks. Now, if we can
- 7:23Speaker 4: find the thieves, we can put a stop to it.
- 7:25Speaker 4: We can make sure the same thing doesn't happen to
- 7:26Speaker 4: your neighbors.
- 7:27Speaker 6: Well, they're going to have to look out for themselves.
- 7:29Speaker 6: I'm not getting tied up in a big investigation. The
- 7:31Speaker 6: neighbors don't worry about me.
- 7:32Speaker 5: Freddie Good's a little further than then. You've been beaten
- 7:35Speaker 5: up and robbed once. How do you know it isn't
- 7:37Speaker 5: going to happen again.
- 7:38Speaker 6: Well, it's not, that's all. I'll make sure it doesn't.
- 7:41Speaker 4: How what's going to stop the same thieves from knocking
- 7:43Speaker 4: you over again?
- 7:44Speaker 6: Look, if it's all the same to you, I want
- 7:45Speaker 6: to forget about this. I'm going to have to be
- 7:48Speaker 6: running along. It's getting late now.
- 7:49Speaker 4: It's just one more thing. Butler, when the doctor was
- 7:51Speaker 4: treating you the other night, this doctor Hart, he says
- 7:53Speaker 4: you told him that you knew who the hold of
- 7:54Speaker 4: men were? Now, is that right?
- 7:55Speaker 6: No? He got it all mixed up. I didn't mean
- 7:57Speaker 6: it that.
- 7:58Speaker 4: How did you mean it?
- 8:00Speaker 6: I'm in a funny position. I just can't explain, that's all.
- 8:02Speaker 6: I can't take the chance good to hold up men
- 8:04Speaker 6: threaten you. I can't talk about it. Give me a.
- 8:07Speaker 4: Break, please, you're making a mistake, mister. Play ball with
- 8:10Speaker 4: those thieves and they'll ruin you.
- 8:11Speaker 6: It's not only me, it's my family too. I'm not
- 8:13Speaker 6: going to take the chance.
- 8:14Speaker 4: If they threatened you and your family, you're taking more
- 8:16Speaker 4: of a chance keeping quiet about it. They'll bleed your
- 8:19Speaker 4: white blackmail, robbery, anything you can think of. Now, this
- 8:21Speaker 4: has happened before. Can't you see the spot? I'm mean,
- 8:23Speaker 4: I know who they are, I know what they can do.
- 8:25Speaker 4: I got a wife to think about. Would you put
- 8:28Speaker 4: your family in that position? If you're buying protection from
- 8:30Speaker 4: a couple of hoods and now figured out, how much
- 8:32Speaker 4: does it work? How far can you trust them?
- 8:34Speaker 6: If you pick them up, they'll know I told you
- 8:36Speaker 6: I don't want anything to happen. Can't you see that?
- 8:38Speaker 6: I haven't any choice? What else can I do?
- 8:39Speaker 4: Help us? Put the thieves where they belong. You'll have
- 8:41Speaker 4: all the protection you needle.
- 8:42Speaker 6: Are locked up. It's a big order.
- 8:44Speaker 4: I don't know you and your wife will be under
- 8:45Speaker 4: twenty four hour guard. Now that's a promise.
- 8:47Speaker 6: How long would that have to go on?
- 8:49Speaker 4: Long enough to bring them to trial and convict him?
- 8:51Speaker 6: How about it? They warned me about telling the police.
- 8:54Speaker 6: They said they'd get both of us if I did,
- 8:56Speaker 6: me and my wife. Now they meant it too, they'd
- 8:58Speaker 6: get us. What can you do about it?
- 9:00Speaker 4: Them first? After another hour of talking, we finally persuaded
- 9:06Speaker 4: the robbery victim, Lewis Butler, to come downtown with us.
- 9:08Speaker 4: He dictated a full statement about the hold up and
- 9:10Speaker 4: filed a crime report. He told us he'd been robbed
- 9:13Speaker 4: and slugged late at night a few blocks from his
- 9:15Speaker 4: music studio. Eight hundred and twenty dollars had been taken
- 9:18Speaker 4: from him by two bandits, both of whom were armed,
- 9:20Speaker 4: both of whom he recognized. He said. One of the
- 9:23Speaker 4: men was a Marvin Carter, a former bartender at a
- 9:25Speaker 4: neighborhood tavern. The other was Ralph Quincy, a merchant seaman.
- 9:30Speaker 4: We went across the street and met with Deputy District
- 9:32Speaker 4: Attorney Fred Henderson. The next day, the case was presented
- 9:35Speaker 4: to the grand jury and a true bill was returned.
- 9:37Speaker 4: The two suspects, Marvin Carter and Ralph Quincy were indicted
- 9:40Speaker 4: on one count of armed robbery. That afternoon. Both of
- 9:44Speaker 4: them were booked at the main jail and then released
- 9:46Speaker 4: after posting a required bail of ten thousand dollars. Four
- 9:50Speaker 4: point thirty PM. Ben and I went back to the
- 9:52Speaker 4: office and met with Captain Dideon. I'm making out on
- 9:56Speaker 4: a pretty fair shape, Skipper. The arraignment set for two
- 9:59Speaker 4: weeks from Thirsty. How about protection for the victim?
- 10:01Speaker 6: Now it's all set up.
- 10:02Speaker 4: Butler and his wife are under twenty four hour guard,
- 10:04Speaker 4: three teams of men on it.
- 10:06Speaker 5: There's two thieves getting out on bail. It's not going
- 10:08Speaker 5: to make it any easier. I'll be working with from
- 10:10Speaker 5: the DA's office.
- 10:10Speaker 4: Anderson seems to think we've got enough to convict both men.
- 10:13Speaker 6: What makes them so sure?
- 10:14Speaker 4: Well, for one thing, we got a line on a
- 10:16Speaker 4: couple of good witnesses to the whold up.
- 10:18Speaker 6: Excuse me, robbery did in?
- 10:22Speaker 7: Yeah?
- 10:22Speaker 6: Might no, I'll check it before I leave, right.
- 10:26Speaker 4: I was that about witness. The man by the name
- 10:28Speaker 4: of Bartlet runs a drug store. He and his son
- 10:31Speaker 4: were in the neighborhood when Louis Butler was held up.
- 10:33Speaker 4: They're supposed to have spotted the two thieves running from
- 10:35Speaker 4: the scene.
- 10:36Speaker 5: Have you talked to him yet, just over the phone.
- 10:37Speaker 5: We've got an appointment with him at six o'clock tonight.
- 10:40Speaker 5: Take their statements. I guess I don't have to tell
- 10:42Speaker 5: you to stay as close to this thing as you can.
- 10:45Speaker 5: If we miss this time, we may not get another chance.
- 10:48Speaker 5: You know as well as anyone out tough it's been
- 10:50Speaker 5: reaching these things.
- 10:51Speaker 4: Yeah, we wouldn't be this far along if Butler didn't
- 10:53Speaker 4: decide to cooperate and file charges.
- 10:55Speaker 5: I wish I knew how many victims there are and
- 10:57Speaker 5: this thing just like Butler, people we don't even know about.
- 11:00Speaker 4: Scared they don't dere file charges. Yes, there's a dozen
- 11:02Speaker 4: of them anyway.
- 11:04Speaker 5: I can't figure people hire a police force on salary
- 11:06Speaker 5: to protect them and their property, then they turn around
- 11:08Speaker 5: try to make a deal with a bunch of hoods
- 11:10Speaker 5: buy them off. How far have you gotten on the
- 11:13Speaker 5: hold up gang behind me? The two men you've got
- 11:15Speaker 5: Tam Carter and Quincy. Anyone else working with him possible?
- 11:19Speaker 4: I'm not sure yet. Both Carter and Quincy have juvenile records.
- 11:22Speaker 4: That's about it. We're still checking on them.
- 11:26Speaker 5: Robbery didon yeah, Tom right.
- 11:31Speaker 7: No, I'll tell them.
- 11:31Speaker 6: They're here with me now, right, Thank you started already.
- 11:36Speaker 7: How's that?
- 11:36Speaker 5: The victim, Lewis Butler, he got a phone call at
- 11:38Speaker 5: his house a few minutes ago. Yeah, I figured it
- 11:40Speaker 5: was one of the hold up gang. They gave Butler
- 11:42Speaker 5: a choice for They say either he drops the charges
- 11:44Speaker 5: or they'll kill him.
- 11:46Speaker 4: Five pm Captain Diddion issued orders that the two suspects
- 11:54Speaker 4: in the case, Marvin Carter and Ralph Quincy, be placed
- 11:56Speaker 4: under twenty four hour surveillance. An additional team of men
- 12:00Speaker 4: was assigned to guard Lois Butler. Each officer was carefully
- 12:03Speaker 4: instructed to take all possible precautions to prevent the robbery
- 12:06Speaker 4: victim and his wife from being harmed in any way.
- 12:09Speaker 4: Six pm, Ben and I met with the two witnesses
- 12:12Speaker 4: to the hold up, a drug store proprietor Sam Bartlett
- 12:15Speaker 4: and his teenage son Harold. They told us that they'd
- 12:18Speaker 4: been in the immediate vicinity the night Butler was robbed,
- 12:21Speaker 4: and that they'd gotten a good look at the two
- 12:23Speaker 4: gunmen as they ran from the scene of the hold up.
- 12:26Speaker 4: Bartlett and his son Harold identified the suspects as Marvin Carter,
- 12:29Speaker 4: and Ralph Quincy. Statements were taken and both witnesses were
- 12:32Speaker 4: warned to maintain absolute secrecy about their part in the case.
- 12:37Speaker 4: Next day we made arrangements to have the druggist and
- 12:39Speaker 4: his son subpoena for the Superior court arrangement. Six days
- 12:43Speaker 4: went by Thursday, October seventeenth, eight am, we checked in
- 12:48Speaker 4: the office and found the message waiting for us. What
- 12:52Speaker 4: is it Joe the druggist's son, Harold Bartlett? What about
- 12:56Speaker 4: farn him in an alley three o'clock this morning? What
- 12:59Speaker 4: slugged and eaten? Late that afternoon, Ben and I received
- 13:07Speaker 4: permission from the doctors to visit briefly with our witness,
- 13:09Speaker 4: seventeen year old Harold Bartlett. His injuries were painful, but
- 13:13Speaker 4: not critical. The beating he'd received was nothing less than brutal.
- 13:17Speaker 4: His left forearm had been broken, and he'd been beaten
- 13:20Speaker 4: viciously about the face and chest. He told us that
- 13:23Speaker 4: he was on his way home from a neighborhood movie
- 13:25Speaker 4: just before midnight when two men jumped him from behind
- 13:27Speaker 4: on a deserted street.
- 13:32Speaker 8: I drove around some maybe five or ten minutes. It
- 13:36Speaker 8: must about at least three minutes in.
- 13:37Speaker 4: The car, And why do you say that?
- 13:39Speaker 8: There were two men in the back sat with me.
- 13:42Speaker 8: Somebody else had to be doing the driving, and it
- 13:44Speaker 8: had to be a sedan in a club coup.
- 13:46Speaker 6: I guess.
- 13:47Speaker 8: So after he drove around a while, they stopped the
- 13:50Speaker 8: car and then they began slugging me. Didn't say a
- 13:53Speaker 8: word the whole time, just started slugging me. I asked
- 13:57Speaker 8: him why I just kept slugging me. See, at first,
- 14:02Speaker 8: I think they were hit me with their fists. I
- 14:04Speaker 8: felt like something to lock it a lot harder, a
- 14:07Speaker 8: piece of iron or metal or something. That's when I
- 14:10Speaker 8: grabbed the cloth off of my face and I started
- 14:12Speaker 8: to holler what happened?
- 14:14Speaker 4: Then?
- 14:15Speaker 8: Ah, yes, nobody heard me. Nobody came anyway. One of
- 14:20Speaker 8: the men swore at me and grabbed my arm hit
- 14:23Speaker 8: it with something. Sure, Sure they didn't say anything to
- 14:28Speaker 8: you all this time, Just before they pushed me out
- 14:31Speaker 8: of the car. It seemed like I was at that
- 14:36Speaker 8: car for hours.
- 14:37Speaker 4: When they started to talk to you, Harry, what they say.
- 14:40Speaker 8: I was about that robbery my father and we saw
- 14:42Speaker 8: the one you talked to us about last week.
- 14:44Speaker 4: What they say about it?
- 14:45Speaker 8: I said, maybe this will help you keep your mouth shut,
- 14:49Speaker 8: stay out of the people's business. I said that a
- 14:52Speaker 8: couple of times. I said a lot more. It happened
- 14:55Speaker 8: to Dad and me if we went to the police,
- 14:57Speaker 8: if we were witnesses at that trial.
- 14:59Speaker 4: Do you remember if some men called each other by name?
- 15:02Speaker 6: No, I don't.
- 15:05Speaker 8: I don't remember anyway.
- 15:07Speaker 4: Well, Son, you remember when we talked to you and
- 15:08Speaker 4: your father last week. We told you to say nothing
- 15:11Speaker 4: about the case to anyone.
- 15:13Speaker 6: I remember. I guess it's my fault.
- 15:15Speaker 4: Well, did you tell other people that you were a
- 15:17Speaker 4: witness in the case. Did you mention it in public?
- 15:20Speaker 6: Yes?
- 15:20Speaker 4: I did.
- 15:21Speaker 8: Yeah, I didn't think it was that important. I guess
- 15:25Speaker 8: I talked about it quite a bit. I'm sorry. It's
- 15:29Speaker 8: my fault, all right.
- 15:30Speaker 5: All right, Harry, if you remembered from now on, it'll
- 15:32Speaker 5: save a lot more drum.
- 15:33Speaker 8: I remember, Sergeant, those two men last night scarving for
- 15:36Speaker 8: a while. I guess most of us talk. Huh, how
- 15:40Speaker 8: do you mean? So they never warned me about staying
- 15:42Speaker 8: away from the cops that said they killed me and
- 15:45Speaker 8: my dad. If we were witnesses, they were probably just
- 15:48Speaker 8: trying to scare us.
- 15:48Speaker 6: They were fooling you know.
- 15:50Speaker 4: You had a sample last night, so yeah, where are
- 15:52Speaker 4: they fooling? After we left Harry Bartlet, we went back
- 16:00Speaker 4: to the office and arranged for a twenty four hour
- 16:02Speaker 4: guard to be assigned to the teenage boy and his father.
- 16:05Speaker 4: A thorough investigation of the attack on the boy failed
- 16:07Speaker 4: to turn up any leads. On the surface, the two
- 16:10Speaker 4: robbery suspects, Carter and Quincy were not involved. During the
- 16:14Speaker 4: week that followed, we heard of no further threats or attacks,
- 16:17Speaker 4: either on the victim, Lewis Butler, or the witnesses involved
- 16:20Speaker 4: in the case. Ben and I worked with Deputy District
- 16:23Speaker 4: Attorney Henderson preparing the case against the two suspects. Two
- 16:27Speaker 4: days before the trial opened in Superior Court, we got
- 16:29Speaker 4: an urgent call. Yeah I know, but how did it happen?
- 16:33Speaker 5: Mm hmm, yeah, all right, Tom'm saying, what's the trouble?
- 16:39Speaker 4: Couldn't be worse? No victim? What do you mean, mister
- 16:41Speaker 4: and missus Butler and disappeared.
- 16:55Speaker 3: You are listening to dragnet from beginning to end? Is
- 17:00Speaker 3: the authentic story of your police force in action.
- 17:11Speaker 4: Tuesday, November fifth, nine am the trial of robbery suspects
- 17:14Speaker 4: Marvin Carter and Ralph quincy opened in Superior Court, Department
- 17:17Speaker 4: eighty eight. The complaining witness, Lewis Butler, failed to appear
- 17:21Speaker 4: for two solid days. We'd been busy checking all of
- 17:24Speaker 4: the Butler's friends and relatives in the city. They couldn't help.
- 17:27Speaker 4: Each time the Butlers had left their residence, they'd been
- 17:30Speaker 4: under surveillance. We'd had an understanding with them that in
- 17:33Speaker 4: the event that they were in their automobile and for
- 17:35Speaker 4: some reason the officers assigned to them lost them in traffic,
- 17:38Speaker 4: the Butlers would immediately return to their home. On the
- 17:41Speaker 4: night of November three, under the pretext of going to
- 17:44Speaker 4: a neighborhood theater, the Butler's made a right hand turn
- 17:47Speaker 4: from a left hand lane of traffic, so it became
- 17:49Speaker 4: obvious that they were trying to elude the officers following them.
- 17:52Speaker 4: A check was made at their home as pre arranged,
- 17:54Speaker 4: and they failed to return. When they failed to appear
- 17:57Speaker 4: for the trial, a bench warrant was issued by Superior
- 18:00Speaker 4: Court for the missing couple. Deputy District Attorney Henderson asked
- 18:03Speaker 4: the court to grant a delay in order to find
- 18:06Speaker 4: the Butler's. It was granted. In the meantime, we'd gotten
- 18:09Speaker 4: out a broadcast and an APB Missing Persons detail helped
- 18:12Speaker 4: out in the search. Still no sign. Tuesday, November twelfth,
- 18:17Speaker 4: eleven am Deputy da Henderson phoned us from the Hall
- 18:20Speaker 4: of Justice. When was that Fred?
- 18:22Speaker 6: Is that right?
- 18:25Speaker 7: Hey?
- 18:25Speaker 6: Well?
- 18:25Speaker 5: Thanks a lot, What do you have to say? The
- 18:29Speaker 5: attorney for Carter and Quincy asked the court for dismissal.
- 18:32Speaker 6: No complaining witness. Well the judge rule on it hid.
- 18:35Speaker 4: Yeah, case dismissed. No matter how guilty the two men
- 18:43Speaker 4: might have seemed. There was nothing further anyone could do
- 18:46Speaker 4: without a complaining witness. Our case was finished. The two suspects,
- 18:50Speaker 4: Carter and Quincy, were released from custody in a few days.
- 18:54Speaker 4: Quincy left town for the East. Carter remained in the city.
- 18:57Speaker 4: The search for mister and Missus Butler went on, no
- 19:00Speaker 4: sign of either one of them. December came, and then
- 19:03Speaker 4: the Christmas holidays New Years. On January sixteenth, Louis Butler
- 19:07Speaker 4: suddenly reappeared back in town and surrendered on the bench warrant.
- 19:11Speaker 4: They explained to the judge that because of the numerous
- 19:13Speaker 4: threats on their lives just before the trial, they were
- 19:16Speaker 4: afraid to appear, and that they left the state without
- 19:18Speaker 4: telling anyone. The judge gave them a lecture in a
- 19:21Speaker 4: warning and dismissed charges. Another month passed February and then March.
- 19:27Speaker 4: On April second, we got word from Denver, Colorado, that
- 19:29Speaker 4: one of our former robbery suspects, Ralph Quincy, had shot
- 19:33Speaker 4: and killed a twenty four year old policeman while attempting
- 19:35Speaker 4: a robbery in that city. Quincy was tried and convicted
- 19:38Speaker 4: of murder and received a life term. In the meantime,
- 19:42Speaker 4: we'd heard little or nothing about the other former robbery suspect,
- 19:44Speaker 4: Marvin Carter. Another two months passed. Spring months wore on
- 19:49Speaker 4: into summer. Monday, July eighth, eight am.
- 19:53Speaker 6: Friday, Romera.
- 19:54Speaker 4: See you a minute, yea skipper, you want to sit down?
- 19:59Speaker 6: You got something before? Yeah?
- 20:02Speaker 5: The hold up victim man, but the name of Sheridan
- 20:04Speaker 5: came in late last night. Filed this crime report here
- 20:06Speaker 5: ever looked thanks, So let's see, Joe. You can notice
- 20:11Speaker 5: that it happened in the same area where we had
- 20:12Speaker 5: that ration hold ups last fall. I see victim robbed
- 20:16Speaker 5: and beaten suspects. He used the same approach, same mo
- 20:19Speaker 5: followed it right down the line.
- 20:20Speaker 4: Yeah, victim warned not to contact police, bodily harm threatened
- 20:25Speaker 4: if victim did so. How about the descriptions of the
- 20:27Speaker 4: hold up the man here? The victim pretty sure about them.
- 20:29Speaker 5: Gaffney handled a report. The victim said he got a
- 20:31Speaker 5: good look at one of the thieves. Gaffney gave him
- 20:33Speaker 5: a bunch of mugshots to look at. Yeah, he's the
- 20:36Speaker 5: one he picked out of the line.
- 20:37Speaker 4: Oh thanks, I have a look Jill Marvin Carter. As
- 20:46Speaker 4: soon as the robbery report had come in, an immediate
- 20:48Speaker 4: check had been made of Marvin Carter's last known address,
- 20:51Speaker 4: an apartment in the West Peico district. The landlord revealed
- 20:54Speaker 4: that the suspect had moved at least two months before.
- 20:57Speaker 4: We got out a broadcast and an APB on him.
- 21:00Speaker 4: Together with Sergeants Gonzales and Henry Ben and I started
- 21:02Speaker 4: on a systematic check of all of Carter's known friends,
- 21:05Speaker 4: relative and associates. After that, we started on the places
- 21:08Speaker 4: he was known to frequent hotels, bars, restaurants. No luck.
- 21:12Speaker 4: Two weeks went by, there were no further reports of
- 21:15Speaker 4: robberies where the m of the criminal matched.
- 21:18Speaker 6: That of Carter's.
- 21:19Speaker 4: Tuesday, July twenty sixth, two PM, we got a call
- 21:23Speaker 4: from one of our informants, Bertie Simmons, who told us
- 21:26Speaker 4: that he might have some information for us. He said
- 21:29Speaker 4: it concerned Marvin Carter. He told us he'd meet us
- 21:32Speaker 4: at MacArthur Park on the sixth Street side at two
- 21:34Speaker 4: thirty pm. Two fifty pm.
- 21:40Speaker 9: You'll have to excuse me. Sorry, I'm late. I have
- 21:43Speaker 9: to move from that other place. Things haven't been going
- 21:46Speaker 9: to a good for me.
- 21:47Speaker 4: That's all right, Bertie. What's the matter? No luck with
- 21:49Speaker 4: the horses, Yeah, a lot of luck.
- 21:50Speaker 7: It's all bad.
- 21:52Speaker 9: If it's a pig in the race, I have to
- 21:53Speaker 9: bet on him every time, getting so I can't even
- 21:56Speaker 9: pick them to show anymore.
- 21:57Speaker 4: I don't know what else is new with you, Bertie.
- 22:00Speaker 9: I'm still looking, but down around some of the joints
- 22:02Speaker 9: south May now I meet it, keeping the near to
- 22:04Speaker 9: the ground. Want to smoke, Yeah, thanks, don't matter if
- 22:08Speaker 9: I do you.
- 22:10Speaker 4: Like for you?
- 22:11Speaker 7: Hm?
- 22:14Speaker 9: What have you heard, Bertie? Anything in the layout that
- 22:17Speaker 9: Marvin Carter? You're still looking for a man't you?
- 22:19Speaker 4: That's right, any Rember?
- 22:21Speaker 7: I heard it.
- 22:22Speaker 9: Last night having a beer downtown. I knew you fellas
- 22:24Speaker 9: were in a little bind on a thing. I always
- 22:27Speaker 9: like to help you when you're in a bind. Well,
- 22:29Speaker 9: what'd you hear Burt Kitter's still in town hiding out?
- 22:32Speaker 9: Like I say, I always like to help you out
- 22:34Speaker 9: when you need it. I know what it is to
- 22:36Speaker 9: be in a bind. That's when you appreciate help most.
- 22:40Speaker 9: I'm kind of in a bind right now, little short.
- 22:43Speaker 4: You know, couple of dollars Burke, that's all I have
- 22:47Speaker 4: on me. WI might help you out at me?
- 22:49Speaker 9: Saved my life, sergeant, tell you the truth. I didn't
- 22:52Speaker 9: know where dinner was coming from tonight, No need telling you.
- 22:55Speaker 7: I appreciate it.
- 22:56Speaker 9: What was this you heard about? Carter still in town?
- 22:58Speaker 9: It's a place down by Venice to the beach. Kyle
- 23:02Speaker 9: has been seting there once twice lately. It's a little seafook, joint,
- 23:06Speaker 9: beer and clams down by the beach.
- 23:09Speaker 4: Well, now is that somebody's story or is it the
- 23:11Speaker 4: real thing?
- 23:11Speaker 7: The real thing? So I don't you know me better
- 23:13Speaker 7: than that? No phony leads from me?
- 23:15Speaker 4: Where's Kurt is supposed to be staying down there?
- 23:17Speaker 6: You know?
- 23:18Speaker 7: Well I do, and I don't. I guess what do
- 23:19Speaker 7: you mean? This move to? Told me about Kyler last night?
- 23:22Speaker 9: He didn't know the address, but he described the place
- 23:25Speaker 9: God is supposed to be hiding out, and I know
- 23:28Speaker 9: the joint.
- 23:28Speaker 4: He mean, But you don't know the address.
- 23:30Speaker 9: No, but I can point out the place he means.
- 23:32Speaker 9: It's a shack.
- 23:33Speaker 4: Right along the speedway down there, down by the beach.
- 23:37Speaker 7: I want to run down there with us, now, sure
- 23:39Speaker 7: I've pointed out for you.
- 23:40Speaker 9: I'm not going near it, though, Why do you say that?
- 23:42Speaker 9: I don't want to mix with it. That's all I
- 23:44Speaker 9: got the wood? What do you mean, Kyla won't be
- 23:47Speaker 9: an easy one to take? How do you know he's
- 23:49Speaker 9: got a gun?
- 23:53Speaker 4: Two fifty five pm, along with our informant Bertie Simmons,
- 23:56Speaker 4: Ben and I drove down to the beach town of Venice.
- 23:59Speaker 4: Bertie pointed out of brown wooden frame cottage where Carter
- 24:02Speaker 4: was supposed to be hiding out. While Bertie waited in
- 24:05Speaker 4: the car, Ben and I checked it out. Was nobody
- 24:08Speaker 4: at home, but there was plenty of evidence inside the
- 24:10Speaker 4: cottage that Carter was living there. I went back down
- 24:13Speaker 4: the street to.
- 24:14Speaker 6: Where we parked our car.
- 24:15Speaker 4: I kept an eye on the cottage while Ben got
- 24:17Speaker 4: to a phone to call the office.
- 24:22Speaker 7: Pretty down here, I saga.
- 24:24Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a nice day.
- 24:25Speaker 9: I don't get out in the air, and I think
- 24:28Speaker 9: that's my trouble. Some of this good ocean there makes
- 24:31Speaker 9: you feel like a million.
- 24:32Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 24:34Speaker 9: Did you notice the place where your partner went to phone?
- 24:37Speaker 9: Down the street there?
- 24:38Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 24:39Speaker 4: What about it?
- 24:39Speaker 7: You see the.
- 24:40Speaker 9: Sign beer and clam right over the door, Beer and clams. Yeah,
- 24:47Speaker 9: best in the city. I know, I've been there. Only great,
- 24:51Speaker 9: good beer for a dime, fresh clams. Nothing better. You
- 24:55Speaker 9: like clams?
- 24:56Speaker 4: Yeah, they're all right once in a while.
- 24:59Speaker 7: What am I going to do? So if you two
- 25:00Speaker 7: have to wait here all night.
- 25:02Speaker 4: Well we'll get you back to town Burg and figure
- 25:04Speaker 4: out something for you.
- 25:06Speaker 5: Hi, Ben, did you get a hold of Captain Yeah,
- 25:10Speaker 5: Marvin Carter was picked up downtown twenty minutes ago.
- 25:13Speaker 4: What yeah, driving a rended car. Traffic un picked him up. Well,
- 25:17Speaker 4: they tab him on his description. Not at first. The
- 25:20Speaker 4: reason they noticed him was because he was double parked
- 25:22Speaker 4: on a busy street and they pulled him over and
- 25:24Speaker 4: got a better look at him. I did any trouble with.
- 25:26Speaker 6: Him, not at all.
- 25:27Speaker 4: Got him booked at Maine jail. Say that's sure too bad,
- 25:31Speaker 4: And what do you mean by in short case. Isn't
- 25:33Speaker 4: it how long your fellaw's been working on her? M
- 25:36Speaker 4: just about a year, hon Joe, Yeah, just about it.
- 25:39Speaker 9: Coming all this way from nothing, you're ready to make
- 25:42Speaker 9: the pinch and somebody else does it for you must
- 25:44Speaker 9: be kind of disappointing.
- 25:45Speaker 7: Huh, all that time? All that?
- 25:47Speaker 6: What?
- 25:47Speaker 4: Well, Carter's in jail, that's the main thing. I guess
- 25:50Speaker 4: we better drive back in ib.
- 25:52Speaker 9: Yeah, say just a minute, sidgeant, no use coming all
- 25:56Speaker 9: this way for nothing.
- 25:57Speaker 7: One if you do me a favor.
- 25:58Speaker 9: What's that burg that's signed down the street white the
- 26:02Speaker 9: blue and white signed Barren Clam. What if you could
- 26:06Speaker 9: drop me off right in front Barren Clam? Oh yeah, Berna, sure,
- 26:11Speaker 9: and nice of you. Just like I was saying, what's said,
- 26:14Speaker 9: no use coming all this way from that?
- 26:24Speaker 2: The story you have just heard was true, only the
- 26:26Speaker 2: names were changed to protect the innocent.
- 26:29Speaker 3: On October twenty ninth, trial was held in Superior Court,
- 26:32Speaker 3: Department eighty six, City and County of Los Angeles, State
- 26:35Speaker 3: of California. In a moment the results of that trial,
- 26:46Speaker 3: Marvin Lawrence Carter was tried and convicted on several counts
- 26:49Speaker 3: of first degree robbery and was sentenced to the State Penitentiary,
- 26:53Speaker 3: where he is now serving his term. First degree robbery
- 26:56Speaker 3: is punishable by imprisonment from five years to life.
- 27:01Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, Miss Lyle Rooks, editor of Radio Television.
- 27:05Speaker 10: Mirror, the readers of Radio Television Mirror have chosen Dragnet
- 27:10Speaker 10: the favorite program of its type for nineteen fifty. I
- 27:13Speaker 10: am privileged to present the citation to you on behalf
- 27:16Speaker 10: of the editors and readers of Radio Television Mirror throughout
- 27:19Speaker 10: the nation.
- 27:20Speaker 4: Thank you, Miss Rooks.
- 27:27Speaker 3: You have just heard Dragnet. A series of authentic cases
- 27:30Speaker 3: from official files. Technical advice comes from the Office of
- 27:33Speaker 3: Chief of Police W. H. Parker, Los Angeles, Police of Parker.
- 27:41Speaker 5: Stay tuned for Counterspy next over many NBC stations.
- 27:52Speaker 1: Welcome Back. This is a case where the show tells
- 27:56Speaker 1: a story that teaches a lesson without connecting the Oh
- 28:00Speaker 1: it's in a direct way, but it has to be
- 28:02Speaker 1: said that the refusal of the first complainant to appear
- 28:05Speaker 1: at trial led to the death of the policeman in Colorado.
- 28:10Speaker 1: It brings home the weight a failing to follow through
- 28:13Speaker 1: on your responsibility and goes back to what they were
- 28:16Speaker 1: trying to tell him earlier that the decision to report
- 28:20Speaker 1: the crime wasn't just about him. On a latter note,
- 28:24Speaker 1: I love Bertie Simmons. He has to be one of
- 28:27Speaker 1: my all time favorite Herb Butterfield characters. I didn't make
- 28:31Speaker 1: the connection that it was Butterfield in the past, but
- 28:35Speaker 1: I recognize it now and it's so different than nearly
- 28:38Speaker 1: every other character I've heard him do. Though, poor Joe
- 28:42Speaker 1: had to give away his last couple bucks for an
- 28:44Speaker 1: unnecessary tip that didn't help them solve the case. Though
- 28:47Speaker 1: on the bright side, Bertie gets beers and clams, so
- 28:51Speaker 1: I guess good for him. It's also worth noting that
- 28:55Speaker 1: this is one of those episodes where the title israe is.
- 29:00Speaker 1: That's why we designated it. If your look up at
- 29:03Speaker 1: the title, it says the Big Tried nineteen fifty one,
- 29:06Speaker 1: because there's another one, and I believe nineteen fifty three,
- 29:11Speaker 1: same title, entirely different in terms of its plot. Well,
- 29:17Speaker 1: we turn now to listener comments and feedback, and we
- 29:20Speaker 1: start with a note from Eddie, who writes, Steer Adam,
- 29:23Speaker 1: I've been listening to your Dragnet podcast for about two
- 29:26Speaker 1: weeks now. I've always loved Dragnet before and listening to
- 29:31Speaker 1: them again about two or three years ago, I got
- 29:35Speaker 1: the main theme of each but listening to your analysis closer,
- 29:39Speaker 1: I enjoy the show with a new perspective, and with
- 29:43Speaker 1: other shows, your thoughts of the end are interesting and informative.
- 29:47Speaker 1: I look forward almost daily. Thank you Eddie, well, thank
- 29:50Speaker 1: you so much, Eddie, And there's something to be said
- 29:54Speaker 1: for it, and your note kind of gives me some
- 29:57Speaker 1: insight into some of my own viewing habits, because sometimes
- 30:02Speaker 1: I find myself watching YouTube reactors reacting to movies that
- 30:08Speaker 1: I've already seen or TV shows. It's something that I enjoy.
- 30:13Speaker 1: I can't do a ton of it, don't have a
- 30:15Speaker 1: ton of time for that, but I struggle to put
- 30:18Speaker 1: into words, but I think that it's sort of the
- 30:21Speaker 1: same thing. You get a new perspective on the program
- 30:25Speaker 1: that you know, and therefore you kind of experience it
- 30:29Speaker 1: in a different way. I find myself saying, oh, well,
- 30:32Speaker 1: how is she going to react to It's a wonderful life,
- 30:36Speaker 1: and it is the power of getting new perspective, and
- 30:40Speaker 1: also sometimes it's just getting the joy of being able
- 30:44Speaker 1: to vi curiously experience something again for the first time
- 30:49Speaker 1: that you know quite well. I appreciate your insight, Aeddie.
- 30:53Speaker 1: And then I got a postcard from the webs. No
- 30:57Speaker 1: relation to Jack, I assume, but this is a lovely
- 31:01Speaker 1: postcard from the Carlsbad Caverns National Park over in New Mexico,
- 31:09Speaker 1: and the postcard raads had and my dad and I
- 31:11Speaker 1: have been driving from Georgia to Washington State. On the way,
- 31:15Speaker 1: we've been listening to your podcast from the start. Saw
- 31:19Speaker 1: on our stop you could mail from the caverns themselves.
- 31:23Speaker 1: Hope you're doing well well. Thank you so much, Hope
- 31:26Speaker 1: you had a wonderful trip, and I appreciate you thinking
- 31:30Speaker 1: of me to send me a card while you're out
- 31:33Speaker 1: on your travels. And again I did post a picture
- 31:36Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'll have to scroll through some audiograms, but
- 31:40Speaker 1: it's there. We're at instagram dot com slash Great Detectives.
- 31:45Speaker 1: And then we have a comment on Spotify regarding the
- 31:48Speaker 1: episode The Big Trunk. Uh listener rights Lol. They need
- 31:53Speaker 1: to know why he jumped before they can do an investigation.
- 31:58Speaker 1: I feel like the investoration would be what uncovered that,
- 32:03Speaker 1: And honestly, when I first read it, I was confused
- 32:06Speaker 1: since that's not a main plot of the episode. But listening,
- 32:13Speaker 1: I recalled, I think that was the stuff they were
- 32:16Speaker 1: talking about at the beginning, and indeed, the opening narration
- 32:21Speaker 1: as Friday saying that they needed to know who he
- 32:26Speaker 1: was and why he jumped before they could proceed with
- 32:30Speaker 1: the investigation. And I think the listener is right, that
- 32:34Speaker 1: is a very odd statement to make, and it's easy
- 32:39Speaker 1: to overlook because it's just kind of a throwaway before
- 32:42Speaker 1: they got put onto the case of the retired performer
- 32:48Speaker 1: who got killed by a guy because they thought she
- 32:52Speaker 1: had valuables in her trunk. And it feels like that
- 32:55Speaker 1: got written because they're like, Okay, Friday has to say
- 33:00Speaker 1: something since they don't have the case at the beginning,
- 33:03Speaker 1: so let's just give Friday some words to say. Because
- 33:08Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense because, as the listener said, an
- 33:12Speaker 1: investigation would be what you would do to determine who
- 33:18Speaker 1: he was and why he jumped. Not only that, but
- 33:23Speaker 1: if you had this jumper and you knew why he
- 33:29Speaker 1: had jumped, and you knew who he was, what else
- 33:33Speaker 1: exactly do you have to investigate. It's not like some
- 33:37Speaker 1: complex robbery case where you know, you lift a toolprint
- 33:42Speaker 1: and then you have to go and do searches and
- 33:46Speaker 1: figure out what the exact tool was that made the mark.
- 33:51Speaker 1: I mean, once the two facts that Friday says that
- 33:55Speaker 1: you need before the investigation can proceed are obtained, there
- 34:01Speaker 1: is nothing really left to investigate. Now there might be
- 34:04Speaker 1: some police nomenclacier that we're missing here, some sort of
- 34:10Speaker 1: separation between investigations. So maybe this isn't quite as silly
- 34:14Speaker 1: as it sounds. And I mean, I would tend to
- 34:17Speaker 1: give benefit of the doubt to Dragnet, but if anyone
- 34:20Speaker 1: is an expert on why he would say that, because
- 34:25Speaker 1: it's such a weird thing to say. It's so weird
- 34:28Speaker 1: too on Dragnet because it's generally very well written, which
- 34:33Speaker 1: I guess is the reason why I just tended to overlook. Okay,
- 34:37Speaker 1: wait a second, that actually kind of sounds like nonsense.
- 34:41Speaker 1: Good catch, and if anyone has any way to make
- 34:44Speaker 1: sense of it, I would really love to hear from you.
- 34:47Speaker 1: All Right, Well, now it's time to think our Patreon
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- 35:33Speaker 11: Have I the pleasure of speaking with mister Michael.
- 35:35Speaker 2: Wedding And that's your idea of pleasure? Who is this?
- 35:39Speaker 11: I'm afraid my name won't mean much to you.
- 35:42Speaker 4: It's George Venezuelo's George Venezuelas.
- 35:45Speaker 11: Yes, your embassy suggested I get.
- 35:47Speaker 4: In touch with you, and what can I do for you?
- 35:50Speaker 11: I believe the shoe is on the other foot. I'd
- 35:52Speaker 11: like to do something for you. You're aware that the
- 35:55Speaker 11: Communist Party is outlawed in Greece. Yes, Well, suppose I
- 36:00Speaker 11: told you that the number one man is right here
- 36:02Speaker 11: in Athens. What would you say to that?
- 36:05Speaker 2: Well, the first thing I'd say is, what's his name,
- 36:08Speaker 2: I take it. Then you're interested, interested as hardly the word.
- 36:11Speaker 11: Well, I live at fourteen Tracopas Traycopas.
- 36:16Speaker 2: That's the street right near the monument to Byron, isn't it.
- 36:19Speaker 11: That's the one. Can I expect you at ten?
- 36:22Speaker 2: You wouldn't want to make it earlier.
- 36:23Speaker 11: Try to be patient, mister wedding. After all, you chaps
- 36:26Speaker 11: have been looking for this fellow for years. A few
- 36:29Speaker 11: hours more or less shouldn't matter.
- 36:31Speaker 1: I hope you'll be with us then in the meantime.
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