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1056 - Pop and Bravo with Jolenta Greenberg · Pink Shade: Reality TV with Mary Payne

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade. It's Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: That means it's pop and Bravo and I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: talk today with my friend jolt To Greenberg of Hot
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  Speaker 2: Mesterpiece Theater.
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  Speaker 1: Hi you, young girl.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, I'm so glad to be here. Thank you for
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  Speaker 3: having me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, you not have a lot of shared loves
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  Speaker 2: because you love Bravo obviously.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you love also TLC.
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  Speaker 3: I do. I love that learning channel.
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  Speaker 4: I love I love to learn about the fiance visa process.
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  Speaker 1: Just this week, I was talking to.
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  Speaker 2: God It'll come to me, but it involved somebody talking
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  Speaker 2: about coming from another country, and I go, well, I
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  Speaker 2: actually know a lot about this.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I just remembered.
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  Speaker 2: It was my hair It was my hair lady, and
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  Speaker 2: we were talking and her daughter, they're from here, from Virginia.
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  Speaker 2: Her daughter has a boyfriend and he is Indian. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: the parents came from India. The boy is you know,
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  Speaker 2: Indian American, but the parents are from India. So the
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  Speaker 2: daughter who's been dating this guy for a year has
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  Speaker 2: never met the parents. And she starts.
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  Speaker 1: Telling me like, yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: He says, like the parents are pretty strict and I go, oh, well,
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  Speaker 2: they're never getting married.
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  Speaker 1: I said.
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  Speaker 2: I said, I hate to tell you this, but I
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  Speaker 2: know a lot about Indian marriages from my programs. And uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know we got Indian matchmaking, we've got family karma.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we've got all.
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  Speaker 1: The people on our TLC shows.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I said no, I said, they're never getting married.
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  Speaker 2: And she's like, and he has to have kids because
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  Speaker 2: she's like, my daughter never wants to have kids. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, oh, he has to have kids. He's the
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  Speaker 2: only son.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's no backup son. Like culturally, they're there's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of weight on his shoulders.
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  Speaker 2: I said, not like Ginny and Cement, where there's a
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  Speaker 2: backup son that can give.
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  Speaker 3: Right a right. They have a age appropriate wife.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I said, they know. And she goes, yeah. I
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  Speaker 2: keep telling her. I keep telling her. She goes, and
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  Speaker 2: he lied to his parents about what I do because
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  Speaker 2: he because he told me that, you know, his parents culturally,
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  Speaker 2: they they want their their child to marry into an
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  Speaker 2: affluent family. So she goes, So me, just being like
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  Speaker 2: master hairstyles at the salon for twenty five years is
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  Speaker 2: not enough. He had to tell his parents that I
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  Speaker 2: own the salon.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and.
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  Speaker 2: So she goes, but I don't. And that made me
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  Speaker 2: mad because I'm like, why is what I do not
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  Speaker 2: good enough? I was like, that could be on him.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you could meet the parents and they could
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  Speaker 2: be lovely and you.
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  Speaker 4: Know totally that could be his his like wrong assumptions.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's so interesting talking to her when I
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  Speaker 2: was like, oh, something I know about that, I've learned.
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  Speaker 3: I know a lot about this.
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  Speaker 1: I told her to watch Indian match Making and to watch.
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  Speaker 4: Family Karma, right, yeah, those are good ones that that
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  Speaker 4: show the like the dating process and the engagement process.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, and then how involved the parents usually are.
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  Speaker 4: So it's a bad time if you're being kept a secret.
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  Speaker 2: And I said, you know, however, if they do get
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  Speaker 2: wedding married, I would like to go because I'm obsessed
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  Speaker 2: with being able to go to an Indian wedding.
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  Speaker 4: They dying the best how fun wedding ever, the best
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  Speaker 4: biggest party, like most fun. I've been to some semi
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  Speaker 4: Indian weddings and they are just like the most fun
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  Speaker 4: like and like all the colors everything's so bright and.
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  Speaker 3: Beautiful, like yeah, and the outfits.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone's wearing like the coolest, most beautiful clothes.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's much more of like a spectacle.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and so I'm dying to go.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody did send me on Instagram the other day, like,
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  Speaker 2: you know that you can go to an Indian wedding
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  Speaker 2: because these some of these big weddings in India, they
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  Speaker 2: do want Americans to come, you know, so they'll invite you.
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  Speaker 3: And I go, I did not know about this.
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  Speaker 2: It's a whole thing, she said, and she sent me
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  Speaker 2: like a whole article about it. And I go, do
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  Speaker 2: you have to pay him one way?
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  Speaker 3: Because right is included?
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  Speaker 2: I would it's a nice hotel included, because I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to stay at like Jenny's apartment with her in snow.
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  Speaker 3: You know, no, No, she doesn't clean very much. I hear,
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  Speaker 3: m m.
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  Speaker 1: She's just she's just like I'm trying to be retired,
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  Speaker 1: like nobody.
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  Speaker 3: This is my wrong marriage for that retirement.
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  Speaker 2: This is my drop that I have here on the show,
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  Speaker 2: which is Summitt saying hold on, let me make sure
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't loop.
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  Speaker 1: This is great for audio. This is Sumant.
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  Speaker 3: You're not professional.
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  Speaker 1: We are not professional work people.
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  Speaker 3: I could tell that the way you phraised that to me.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that's so good.
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  Speaker 4: I can't wait to see how the family cafe turns out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently Dad is going like scooping water out of
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  Speaker 2: the toilet and using that.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, what now, you were using toilet water and
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  Speaker 4: that's a no no, even if it's going through the
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  Speaker 4: espresso machine.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I was like, because it looks like some of
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  Speaker 2: it throws out, like a whole thing of potatoes that
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  Speaker 2: he boiled. I was like, oh, well, if he boiled
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  Speaker 2: the bos no, no, probably.
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  Speaker 4: Probably you shouldn't. But like, I don't know. The camper
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  Speaker 4: and me is like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Boiled water is usually good, right, are you a camper?
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  Speaker 4: I mean I was. I was raised in Oregon, so
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  Speaker 4: like I was forced to be.
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  Speaker 2: But really, yeah, you've slept in a tent. You've slept
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  Speaker 2: in a tent outdoors.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've like gone backpacking. I've had to like carry
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  Speaker 4: gear and then like sleep in the gear and you know, actually,
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  Speaker 4: actually there's a documentary coming out about my high school
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  Speaker 4: because they had an infamous Mount Hood trip that all
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  Speaker 4: the sophomores used to go on. You go go the
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  Speaker 4: mounta Hood and Oregon, and there was a freak blizzard
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  Speaker 4: and one group. Almost everyone died except for like two
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  Speaker 4: kids that you know that graphic detail warning. They like
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  Speaker 4: built a little like snow cave, and like the people
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  Speaker 4: at the bottom of the pile like barely survived.
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  Speaker 3: And it was like this huge tragedy.
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  Speaker 4: And I think nineteen eighty five and I think HBO
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  Speaker 4: is coming out with the documentary about it soon.
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  Speaker 1: Really yeah, Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got it.
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  Speaker 4: I got an email from like alumni fairs and being like,
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  Speaker 4: just a heads up, everyone, We're going to be in
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  Speaker 4: a documentary.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm nineteen eighty five. Okay, so you weren't in
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  Speaker 2: high school. I was in high school nineteen.
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  Speaker 4: No, my mom was pregnant with me. She remembers watching
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  Speaker 4: it on the news when she was pregnant.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then she goes, this is the high school
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  Speaker 2: for my daughter.
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  Speaker 3: And then she was like, we're gonna send her here. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but oh but now they.
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  Speaker 4: Just make you go backpacking instead of climbing Mount Hood
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  Speaker 4: because that's.
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  Speaker 2: Well oh no, Well tell me when that comes out,
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  Speaker 2: because maybe you can.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, talk about it. Oh my gosh. Yeah, of course, y'all.
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  Speaker 4: That episode will be coming out very soon, and I
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  Speaker 4: think it next like two weeks, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Because I figured you would alert me. But then I
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  Speaker 2: was like, oh, yeah, did I miss it?
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  Speaker 3: You didn't miss it. It's coming out soon. He's a
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  Speaker 3: good one. I'm very excited about it.
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  Speaker 2: We talked about vander Pump rules and Stacy slapping Kristen
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  Speaker 2: and what a different what a different time to be alive?
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  Speaker 4: That was I was back in the hanging out in
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  Speaker 4: the in the back alley at sur Days.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let me ask you, are you going to watch
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  Speaker 2: the new vander Pump Rules.
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  Speaker 4: I was watching the preview for it last night, and
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  Speaker 4: I was talking to my husband and I'm like, I like,
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  Speaker 4: is this even vander Pump Rules? Like I'm probably gonna
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  Speaker 4: look at it, but like it just looks like such
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  Speaker 4: a weird, cheap imitation where I kind of am of
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  Speaker 4: the mindset where I'm like, maybe if they change the name,
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  Speaker 4: I'd be more inclined.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah they could call it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Sir Rules or something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah they yeah, yeah, because a lot, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people that felt way about the Valley like
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: it was going to be horrible. Not I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: I was a little reticent, but then I love it, so,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 2: I love I knew the Valley was going to be
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  Speaker 2: good because I was like, these are people we've been
• 10:10
  Speaker 2: following for so long. It's got to be good, right, totally,
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  Speaker 2: But a whole new cast of people with no no
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  Speaker 2: La La no, anybody who's.
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  Speaker 4: Not Rewind Peter Sighting. You know, really, I didn't, I
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  Speaker 4: don't think. I saw one in the preview, and I
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  Speaker 4: was like, I would have liked to just see Peter, just.
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  Speaker 2: To know that Peter's still around whipping these young whippers
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  Speaker 2: snappers into shape.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is funny because I'm going to Bravo kan
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  Speaker 2: next week. And what was funny is two years ago,
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  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three, Peter was just every day. People
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  Speaker 2: saw him every day, just stand in the lobby of Caesars,
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  Speaker 2: like trying.
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  Speaker 1: To get recognized.
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  Speaker 2: Oh Peter, Like not over at Bravocon where it was
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  Speaker 2: at the Caesars Convention Center. I'm talking like in the
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  Speaker 2: Caesars Hotel just you're a hotel, Yeah, just like, yeah, Peter,
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  Speaker 2: Peter standing here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I hope, I hope it went well for I hope
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  Speaker 3: we got a lot of photos. Yeah, yeah, seen and
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  Speaker 3: wanted Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because he didn't want to buy like a ticket to
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  Speaker 2: go over to the Dimension Hall where people would definitely
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  Speaker 2: recognize him.
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  Speaker 1: He's just would come in and out of the hotel.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And I imagine, like I don't know, I could imagine
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  Speaker 4: being a former employee and being like I don't want
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  Speaker 4: to have to pay to get into like a company event.
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  Speaker 2: But right, Well, I won't thank you give me a ticket. No,
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  Speaker 2: nobody got a ticket. I mean a few people got
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  Speaker 2: a ticket. I did see a couple of so a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people that you know, we know got tickets
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  Speaker 2: and got invited whatever. Not me, I'd just pay full
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  Speaker 2: price for two tickets, like a.
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  Speaker 3: Sucker, and you're a badass.
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  Speaker 1: Well it's I just want to go, and then I'm not.
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  Speaker 4: Going to Yeah, and I have my ship together sooner.
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  Speaker 4: I would have bought tickets too.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we were going, and so many of the people
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  Speaker 2: that have been invited that I know, like Ryan Bayley
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  Speaker 2: or Miguel Luciano or other people, and they're unboxing their
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: you know, Bravo box that they got.
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  Speaker 3: I saw Ryan Bailey's video this morning.
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: And by the way, everybody, just quick plug. I am
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  Speaker 2: hosting a party with Ryan Saturday, November fifteenth at hard
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  Speaker 2: Rock Cafe before Amy's Caparemi event.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm to our event. It's free.
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  Speaker 2: Click the link. Just make sure you click the link
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  Speaker 2: so we know you're coming. Okay, that's a secondary thing.
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  Speaker 3: That founds very fun.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody opens up their things and then I saw like
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  Speaker 2: Bravo by Brett and some other people that like like
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  Speaker 2: me that like didn't get invited doing like fake unboxing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and they have like an Amazon box that they wrote
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  Speaker 2: Bravo on what mee was in here, and it's I
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: was like, God, should I do that to make fun
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  Speaker 2: of the fact that I just am like Rodney Dangerville
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  Speaker 2: to get no respect?
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  Speaker 1: Like should I?
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  Speaker 3: Would I do it? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Do I have time?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 2: I don't, But I do have enough Bravo shit in
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  Speaker 2: here that I could make a box, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: pretend like I sent my I got sent the things.
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  Speaker 1: That purchased merchant box.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I'm literally like looking behind me, where.
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  Speaker 4: Is my Don't you just have a Bravo letterman jacket
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  Speaker 4: laying around?
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  Speaker 1: You know? I don't. I don't.
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  Speaker 2: And I was a little jealous of that.
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  Speaker 1: I got it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean that looked cool, Like I'll be honest, I
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  Speaker 3: was expensive. I was also like just.
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  Speaker 4: Impressed in general with like how much branding Bravo is
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  Speaker 4: doing this time around for Bravo con Like there's there's
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  Speaker 4: the Bravo Rebox collab where I was like, oh, I
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  Speaker 4: kind of like that obasically, I kind of like the
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  Speaker 4: Atlanta one because it's different.
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  Speaker 3: Peach colors, and I was like, wait, I like, I
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  Speaker 3: like that.
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  Speaker 2: I will be fascinating to see if there's a booth
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  Speaker 2: selling that.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I beg yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then like you got to say a seven back there? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: here you go, you know, or you have to order
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  Speaker 2: and they'll send them to you.
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  Speaker 4: They were kind of take so cute, but yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: hope they have some there that would be fun.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'll be reporting every day Bramo Con, so
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  Speaker 2: everybody just stay tuned. Some will be here on the
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: Free Feet and then most will be over on the feed.
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: But last year when Ingrid and I did was we
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: just walked around with my phone and I'd be like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: here's what just happened. I met Margaret Joseph and da
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  Speaker 2: da dah. She told me the name of a resurgeon
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  Speaker 2: that did her amazing boob job and dah da da,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, we would just do that and then
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, Ingrid would put them
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  Speaker 2: all together for one big mashup. So some of that
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna be putting over here on the Pop and
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  Speaker 2: Bravo Thursday episode.
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  Speaker 3: It's gonna be something I can't wait to hear your reporting.
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  Speaker 2: Now tell me, tell me, let's talk about TLC before
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  Speaker 2: we go into Bravo. Okay, tell me all the TLC.
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  Speaker 2: What's your jam, what's your fae? What are you into?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm always like, I always can't look away
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: from Jasmine and Gino, right, And I don't know if
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: you've seen her social media presence lately, but I've been
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: fascinated by it. Shaved and I was saying the shaving head, which,
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: like I I can relate to that I had a
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: really bad lupus flair that caused severe alopucia, and instead
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: of having my hair fallout and clumps, I just ended
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: up buzzing it. Because turns out it's way more dramatic,
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: at least for me, to have your hair falling out
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: like in fistfolds than just buzzing it and looking looking
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: kind of, you know, maybe a little sick or something.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: A good a good friend of mine texting me like
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: two days ago that her sister has cancer and she's
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: in chemo and the same she said the same thing,
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: that the hair was coming out in clumps, and she says,
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: so we just decided that was so upsetting, We're just
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: gonna shave it.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like so.
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: Daring, so like I totally get the shaving head. I
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: also just like that she's going like the trad wife
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: route all of a sudden, and she's like she's in
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: these like frilly dresses and she'll like be like, watch
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: me cook soup or something from my spiritual husband, Matt,
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: and she calls them.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: Her spiritual husband because she's still married to Gino.
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: Probably yeah, I think so yeah, And I'm just like,
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: what is this jasmine trad wife? I'm I'm fascinated by this,
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: this image she's trying to build where she's like, I'm
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: no longer the loose cannon from Panama. I am Matt's
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: spiritual life making dinners for him in Florida.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll be interested at the reunion to find out.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: What is the status with the divorce, what is the status.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: With her, you know, with Gino very actively trying to
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: get her deported, like she's using vengeance overall. He's like,
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: I don't care if I if I'm married to or longer.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: I have to give her more money. I'm out to
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: make sure she gets to Yeah.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: He's like, I'm willing to risk being asked for like
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: child support because I'm legally the father of this child
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: in the state of Michigan. Like, I'm willing to risk that,
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: like if I can just really fuck up her life.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's he's like spark, He's like, yeah, she'll
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: uh when she gets those papers, We'll see how jolly
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: she is.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I'm like, is jolly a word we used to describe Jason?
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: And like, also, it looks like the reunion is going
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: to be another one where they have them all stay
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: at a house together and they tease her telling g
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: you know, like she's always loved him.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: I'm like, what is happening?
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: She's just trying to appeal to his masculine side to
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: be like, please stop this bullshit, which, by the way,
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I think seventy five percent of what those two have
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: done has all been a plan. I think when they
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: I think that they got married even knowing it wasn't
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: going to last, knowing that they can use this for
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: clout to stay on the show, to continue to be
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: on more shows, to be on the Single Life, to be.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: On Last or all these paychecks just keep it going.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: And you know, Jasmine can continue to be on HA
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: and he can go on Single Life I mean, you know,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: there's there's more those more shows to come, so and
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: then they could go on pillow talk. I mean so
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: I think they decided. I think they got married knowing
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: it wasn't going to last, and meticulously planned this out. Now,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: the only part of the wrinkle of that theory of
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: mine is would he allow himself to be talked about
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: his penis, to be talked about so poorly on television,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: to talk about how he wouldn't banger?
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Ever? I don't. I don't know if he meant for
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: that part to happen that.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of the sex stuff is
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: what what didn't go according to plan?
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Whember she moved there, and she's like, I got these
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: butt plugs. He's like, oh my gosh.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: She's like they're small, medium large, try to get trying
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: to get my buttthole bigger for you.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: I totally forgot about that.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: Oh and the toe I remember the toe sucking, Like yeah, yeah,
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: something that got away. I do. What do you think
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: about Andre and Libby? Do you think they're just strategically
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: shit stirring because they want some sort of like like
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: you know, couples who live in Florida spin off or something.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: It is weird how they've tried to make these three
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: couples like a Housewives situation.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Right, It does.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Seem they're leaning a little more into making it more
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: like a Housewives than a TLC show, which I don't like.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I don't I like to keep my trash separate. What
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: do I think about them now? I met them at
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: a party, a TLC party in New York. Andre and
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Libby were there, Lauren and Alexi were there, Lauren still
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: had the braces unclear, but it's very unclear. And then
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Brandon and Julia were there. She was not pregnant, so
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: it's unclear. Where in the timeline was that we saw.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Have no idea, you know what I mean, you can't
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: so I don't remember them. The four of them like
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: hanging out like best friends at that time. Were they
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: fighting them? Were they not? Andre and Libby? I am
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: happy to know that they have finally cut off her
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: most of her toxic family.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that they were a mess.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Mess, especially that Charlie and his wife you know brother. Yeah,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: and they're only fans where you could just fully see
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: he and his wife bang.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: I did not know that.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, just full.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Penis and the camera, full, spread it out, let's.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Do it banging, banging.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Whoa wow, Yeah, okay, new development for me.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: I love that mm hm.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: And so obviously you know he had quite a substance
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: issue from what we could see on our.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Television, right right, Yeah, for sure, it was good that.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: They finally dumped them, and you know, for them because
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: they've been married for so long. Now the only show
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: they can be on is Happily ever After unless they
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: pretend again that they're going to move to Moldova, which
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: they're never going to.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Do, which yeah, that's not going to happen.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: We just dropped, We have completely dropped that storyline about
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: losing all their money, right.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: I was like, we're just not going to talk about
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: the house that looked like it got like blown out
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: by a bomb.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: But okay, yeah, And I was like, why don't they
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: buy that house? Why don't they move into that house?
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: He already paid for it, right, just just pay a
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: contractor coming.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Here and make it like you cracks and get the
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: rubble out.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Get the rubble out.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: It'll be great, it'll be perfect for your children. Well,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. I think Lauren and Alexi,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I think weren't in on whatever was this plot that
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: they were doing at Lake Placid. I think that they
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: were like, we're leaving, like obviously, you guys are trying
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: to make us look bad, and yeah, I think it
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: is true. I think that Alexei probably did say all
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: that stuff to Lauren. And she does have body I
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: thegi issues, and she did get a mommy makeover when
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: she was she is when I tell you in person,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I mean she is as big as this fan and she.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Like her body pre mommy makeover would be like a
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: goal body for me.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, she's a tiny, tiny person, like smaller
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: than Julia, and Julia is also.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: A tiny person like yeah, she's tiny.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Short, like a little tiny peanut.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Wi little wisp of a thing. And also interesting, Brandon
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: is shorter than Julia.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: I was asking. I was actually asking my husband the
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: other day. I was like, come in here, is he
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: taller than her or not? Because I couldn't tell in
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: their you know, and their like title card pictures where
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: they are like posing, and I'm thank you for confirming,
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: yeah that it matters that much my husbands shorter than me.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a he's a little villa.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: But but now that we know that they've had all
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: this strife on the show, I keep trying to think back, like,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: were they the four of.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Them hanging out a lot?
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: No, they really weren't, right, But don't you think Yara
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: is the funniest, one of the funniest.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: I love Yara. Yara is so great. My husband and
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: I sometimes just walk around the house being like Jovie.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: She's just always Jovi.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Why the Mother Nature did not bless you? Okay, Okay,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: She's just.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: I think she's so funny, Like I would I would
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: see her do stand up if she if she wanted to.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: She's so funny. And this week was she was saying
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: about s'mores. She was calling him smorphs and.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: She's like, what is like this that show with the
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: blue people? Yeah, do you have that here? The smorphs?
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: And he's like, that's smurfs and it's different than smores,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: which is something you eat.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: And she's like whatever. But I like this sweek where
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: she asked Andre if he was sniffing glue.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: That was good, Oh yes, yeah, And I like that
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: She's she's like one of the only people not like
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: afraid of him.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: No, not at all. This is the kind of man
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: she's used to.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: She's from Ukraine, right, like she knows how to deal
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: with the Slavic, like macho dude.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I didn't like that.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: When Elizabeth walked off, she said bye bitch to to
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Yara in another language Russian maybe yeah, and Yara goes, oh,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: she said bye bitch to me, but not in like
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: the fun bitch way and the bad way, the.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Bad bitch, bye bitch, see you bitch.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: No, it was like fuck you bitch.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: And I was like, this is why they're trying to
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: make it like housewives, and I don't like it.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I don't like it.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but Aga is better than we thought. Generally, HGA
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: is the one that we dread the most.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: But yeah, it's usually one of the like slower and
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: darker ones, but this one is.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: It's fine.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: It's been pretty good.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: And maybe it is because they put all the what
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: we call the floridiots together. Yeah, you know, maybe so,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: but you know, in this opportunity Brandon and Julia went
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: to Florida to get married.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: They didn't even show them there.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Darcy, Georgie, Stacy Florida and they're all on Florida.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: They haven't shown them. They could make an entire show.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: A lot they film a lot in Florida. Yeah.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Hm interesting. Now are you watching the other way?
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, I am.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Thoughts on Patilla and Dylan Patier as we call her Patier.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: I'm just I'm worried. I'm a little worried.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I'm worried.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: I just I don't like her so far away and
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: with like no one that seems to see things her way.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Like I just I worry about an isolated woman, you know.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: I worry about a man that is counting his calories
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: in macros six times a day and expects you to
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: do the same.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: And she's like, cook that for him, and yeah she's
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: like no. And he did say he eats kangaroo and
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: that upset me a little bit too.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: I think it is pretty common there, But is it?
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know, No, I mean not really. I have
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: friends from Australia who don't eat kangaroo and are like no.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: But I mean I know some of them have referred
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: to as like roadkill, like eating roadkill because they're sort
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: of like these giant, very aggressive vermin.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah that's crazy. Maybe they could be
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: like it's weird. They think if we eat like venison
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: from Deer, I guess, but.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: That was upsetting. He's upsetting all around. He's setting.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he's so regimented in like a scary, controlling
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: way and like too tight with his mom a little bit.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: He is hot, though, so it's like, yeah.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: He's he's a banging stripper's contractor yeah, he's literally the
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: fantasy of like, oh, we fixed my sink and also
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: like take off your shirt?
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, so the plumbers that come to this house, no.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Ye, like never never, never happening here.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Do you get into Seeking Sister Wife.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: I haven't done it. I'm a little afraid of it,
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: and I don't know why.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: It's incredible.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry to tell you that you're really missing out.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: No, I really miss it. Try it.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: I've been watching like recaps of it on TikTok, being
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: like I probably should watch the real thing.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Seeking Sister Wife is great, but you gotta
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: go back, just start look and figure out whatever the
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: first season was.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: The Merryfields appeared, and.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: That does Garrick and Danielle, and that's what I need
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: to see because they are on their third try at
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: a Brazilian wife.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Oh great this this one.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: They've gotten all the way to the States and she
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: is on a ninety day visa.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: So crossover.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: So there is also yeah.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: There's again missed opportunity. Matt Sharp.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, seeking sister wife and were you? Were you into
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: plath Bill, which I considered to be the best.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Show that's television.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Not into plath Bill either?
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, let me tell you something good news for you. Yes,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: starting November nineteenth, in a couple of weeks, Keisha and I, my.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Co host, are starting a rewatch.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Now, I've watched every episode. I'm a scholar. I know everything.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know everything. I'm friendly with Olivia, who's our hero.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Right right, I would saying I know we love her,
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: that you love her.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're Keisha's never watched one day. One minute,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: She's like, who are all these blonde white people. I
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: was like, it'll take you several seasons to figure out
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: who's who. But we're gonna start a rewatch over on
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: a pink Shade Prime at ten dollars level. You guys,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: get on it because people are like, Kisha's never watched it,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: and that's what's gonna be funny.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta I gotta get in on that.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I gotta listen, you gotta get in, you gotta get in.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: I'm always just a little afraid of shows that like
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: possibly glorify, glorify religious extremism, so I've always like steered
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: clear of it. But I feel like I love when
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: they become disillusioned, Like that's what happens like Sister Wives
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: and what I hear happens in Plattvills.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: So yes, then I'm intrigued.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, And as you're watching it and the kids are
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: young and they're like and you see like a fresh
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: faced Micah Plath who later gets into a drunken coke
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: field fistfight at a sister's wedding, You're like, Wow, how
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: far he's come. Look at him, fash face to sell.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: So interesting and he's so hot.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: And he goes to La and like becomes a model,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: like I've seen him in my JA Crew catalog.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, okay, and this is super interesting.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Yeahah yeah, yeah yeah.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: So you've got you've got quite a journey, and then
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: you've got Olivia the journey of her, which is endlessly fascinated.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Right, So I hope I've talked you into it.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm very sold.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, good, Well let's talk about some of
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: our Bravo people. Salt Lake City continues their is from
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Hell Now.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Is incredible.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: How are you with Blow Deck? Because I dip in
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: and out a blow Deck.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: I watched Below Deck, and I was a little confused
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: because this is like a crew in a location where
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: I'm like, they're not down under, but it's the down
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Under captain and it's the sailing yacht chief stew and
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: it's Chef Ben from the like from like the O
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: G Yeah, and so but I from what I've gathered,
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: this is the new regular below Deck crew possibly okay,
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: and and we'll be getting their version of it when
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: when that show airs in a couple months.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like coming soon. I'm like, i'd like to
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: air directly after this.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: I was I kind of thought they were going to
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: go to the med and be on like Sandy's Boat
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: went before I understood what was happening, because that's the
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: one that's like airing right now, right, But no, it's
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: a different So that was a little confusing.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: But once I got over that, I was like, this
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: is great. It's so fun.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: It's really fun watching like two crews work, like to
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: two television crews or casts work together and like both
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: acknowledge each other as peers, but also part of that
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: cast is in a service.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Role, so it's like brilliant. I really like it.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd be interested, Like if Heather Gay sees like
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: whoever was hanging up her clothes at Bravocon in my
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: equal role as a Bravo leve right.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: Right, or even just like they're fighting and they're like bickering,
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: and then Lisa's like, rite, Daisy, back me up, and
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: it's like she's asking Daisy back her up while she's
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: like serving her a drink, and I feel like she's
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: talking to her the way she might talk to her
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: like Bravocon or something, but also being like fill my drink.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I love that there are layers, there are layers that well.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I I am.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: So happy, especially this last week, this past episode we
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: just saw on Tuesday night. I'm so happy that Mary
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: is really getting in there. She's really getting in there,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: she's really participating. I'm really loving it because she's participating
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: more than she's ever participated.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: She's like inserting herself in ways that she would always
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: just sort of steer clear or like go sit sprinter
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: van when stuff was going down.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: I loved when she told Meredith she was boring.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: She was like, you're boring if you have something to say,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: and say it, but I haven't heard anything that's interesting.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: And it's like, oh that that cuts a little deep
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: because they used to be pretty tight.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: They used to be the ones hanging out together.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: For her to be like, I've decided you're boring and
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: you don't offer much, and I was like, I'm I
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: was impressed.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: And then of course Meredith has like great responses, which.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: Is like I do very interesting things, like I just
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: love I love a pissed off Meredith.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: I liked the scene of Lisa and Meredith in their
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: bed with like the camera in the room filming and
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: she's like you you didn't back me up. And they
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: were saying I started the rumors and anything, and Meredith
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: is like obviously like hungover or pilled out whatever, laying
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: there going, oh my god, like what else do you
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: want me to say?
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: Go?
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: I I didn't I didn't pile on. That's more than
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: anyone else did.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Like I just let it happen and just didn't agree
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: or disagree what do you want from me? Oh my god,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: those two, well, I'm fascinated about the whole thing.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: I loved the zombie party. I thought that was fun.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: Like nothing I love more than fighting in costume and
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: and just fighting with a knife through your head.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Totally ridiculous. I love it. I loved the corpse face,
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: And what about everybody just hates Brittany is like, why
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: is she there? Everybody?
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: I feel bad for her and love her.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: I love that that throughout this time she has yet
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: to be able to like read the room properly. I
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: was like, I love I love someone who just doesn't
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: learn as they go along.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: It's so funny to watch.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: And it was funny when they were trying to blame her.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: They were like, well, we saw Captain Jason coming out
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: of your room where you like, And Bram's like, I
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: don't want to be in our room because you're hooking
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: up with crew members.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: I was like, well, they are what they are, so
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: they're just so willing to pick on her about anything
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: she does. I definitely feel bad for her, but she
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: seems to be serving some sort of communal like purpose
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: to be the person everyone shits.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: On, and she doesn't seem to mind it that much.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Any attention is good attention to Brittany, who was it was?
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: It called her daddy that asked Andy who was the
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: thirstiest ra celebrity and he said Britney bathing well.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: And didn't They did like a Vanity Fair cover where
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: they had the housewives do the a recreation of the.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Oh Desert House Housewives.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: Brittany wasn't invited and they were like all in bathing suits.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: But then she showed up to a Vanity Fair interview
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: in a bathing suit to be.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Like, let's don't give it vanity verir I believe those people?
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Oh it was people.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: I was like, is it people are Entertainment Weekly. I'm
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm mixing it up.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Vanity Fair is it's not Vanity.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking of like a the young Hollywood Vanity Fair cover.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes that's right.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: And she then she came to the interview in a
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: bathing suit because she was like, you guys didn't ask
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: me to be on the cover, but here I am
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: in case you need to you can.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Fill me in.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: You did see in that in that picture that uh
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Mary is just in a full uh, business casual dress.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, because Mary is gonna do whatever the fuck
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: she wants.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: She's like, I'm not well, I can understand not wanting
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: to put on a bathing suit.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: But put on like a caftan or.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: Something, right, right, maybe it looks like a like a
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: cover up vibe. But no, she's just gonna wear what
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: she came in, whatever she decided was.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: I'm on my way to church and this is what
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: I'm wearing.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Yep. Mary, Mary is her own woman.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: Do you think her church is going to come back? I,
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, of me likes that. We just kind of
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: don't deal with it because, yeah, I don't like thinking
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: about it because like I really I really enjoy Mary,
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: and I feel like she's sort of become like the
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: voice of the audience, and it's like I don't want
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: to think about that. Also, she has a church that
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: like is rumored to have its own like banking like
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: loan programs, so you can like take out loans to
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: tie to the church.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: Like I don't. I do think people are being taken
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: advantage of.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: I think it's a it's a system she was sort
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: of forced into taking over.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like perpetuating it isn't good, and.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: Like I sort of sadly enjoy that we aren't focusing
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: on it a done so I can enjoy Mary, but
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: like that is always at the back of my mind
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: where I'm like, I do wonder if there's some religious
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: abuse happening in the church.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we've seen quite a bit of evidence
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: of it. But me too, I just like, I just
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: want to be blissfully right.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: I know that's bad, Like the social justice worrying me
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: is like what the fuck? But also I'm like, but
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: Mary's really funny, and like, really I like her connection
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: with Angie.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too, And I'm like, is it a
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: real friendship? Do they talk when the cameras aren't going God?
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Oh? So yeah, I know, I hope so.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Well, Okay, let's talk about Potomac. Okay, So, even though
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Potomac is filmed here where I live, and you know,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: I see these ladies, sometimes it's just like my least
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: favorite show. And I don't know why. I don't know
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: if because they change cast too much, I don't know,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: but I watched it this recent one and I'm going, okay, okay,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: but I'm confused, Like British Lady but like, why are
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: they all mad at this other woman angel.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Angel for face tuning.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: They're mad at her because she put up like a
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: thinner picture of herself before she had kids, like hoopo,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: everybody does the back picture.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: She looked bang in.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, but why do you have to call her like
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: a catfish?
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: And then she's crying because I heard her feelings. And
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: then she talks about her richer husband does all the
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: time and he used to play in the.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: NFL and ten year starter, well so you probably they
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: probably do have a lot of money.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: Right right, It's very like it's very much sort of
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: like we're getting into some like wags competition, which I
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: find interesting. But I do need like more explainers just
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: because I don't know enough sports ship where I'm like,
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: I think starting is good.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: It sounds good. I did have to check.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, starting is important, and if you're starting, you know,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: for ten years in a row on a team, that's great.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Now does he have snee tea? You know we'll find out, right, yeh,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: that's not great. But yeah, just now I'm kind of
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: really watching it for the Wendy of it all. Because
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: of her latest situation.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, I feel like we're just watching
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: it to see like cracks and Wendy, or to see
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: how how like audacious she can be, or you know,
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: just like how outrageous she can be, where we're like, oh,
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: you're living a lie a little bit right now.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: I know, I know, And I don't know if you
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: heard this, and it came across like my podcast feed
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: is Carlos King, who I love his podcast, and he had.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Vicky on to talk about the insurance fraud.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Oh right, genius makes sense. God, he's great.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't that smart? Isn't that smart? Of course, Yeah,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: he didn't know.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Vicky, he had never met her because he never dealt
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: with her as a producer, right, So he was like
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: really excited and he had her on to talk about
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Wendy's insurance fraud. And she's just like, no, it's really bad,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Jilly bad. She's going down. She's gone down.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: It's terrible.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: He can't do that, she explained about it. You can't
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: file the same claim with three different insurance companies, which
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: is another thing. In addition to reporting things stolen that
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: were not stolen and reporting a crime that didn't happen,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: and all that they filed with three different insurance companies,
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: and Vicky's like, no, you can't do that.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: You gotta because you're gonna get puts one three, Yeah.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: And they're also like those three companies will talk to
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: each other and maybe that's how.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: They got caught place boof it's bad.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: But she said, Vicky said, if she was like looking
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: at that claim and she saw the eighteen items that
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: were listed, and it was like a diamond ring or
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: a diamond bracelet, or a Cardier watch, and then a
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Louis of a time bag and then like a Christian gue.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Or a wallet.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: She goes, when people list things out like that detailed,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: it's a red flag. And she said, and anything over
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I think she said anything over eight items would be a.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Red flag for her.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: Oh interesting, Yeah, And.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: She goes and they had like eighteen and then they're
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: on like fourteen felony charges. So I don't know if
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: the other four were like the items were below a
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: certain amount. Yeah, But her husband, Sidney those emails saying.
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: Hey, let's like up up the Yeah, go look at
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: your closet. Yeah, let's let's get it to the max.
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: Let's get it to as like it's just so bad
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: and he's a lawyer and they thought just.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: No one would look into it.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: It's like you're already under a microscope on TV, yes,
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: Like why put yourself under more scrutiny for fraud?
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like we say it every season
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: of some show, like, right, if you know you're going
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: to be lying and cheating, don't go on reality television, right.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: I just the Hubris never ends, and it's just it's
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: so interesting to watch, like just watching the season knowing
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: what we know, Like.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: I know, so you're just like, let's fast forward so
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: we can get to that black screen of death that
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: will say after filming Wendy and her husband.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, because I'll show that yeah next
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: to her.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: Otherwise, it does sort of feel like like the kids
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: are running the show all of a sudden with maybe
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: it's because Karen's gone, yeah right, Like it just feels
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: chaotic and Giselle's trying to lead the show, but she
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: just likes to sort of pick on someone once in
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: a while.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: And you know, it's so.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: And you know, I kind of love Stacy even though
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: they all made her.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Stacy is the Brittany.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: She's yeah, I was gonna.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: Say I love her the same way I love Britney,
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: where I'm like, this girl cannot say the right thing.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Sheez. Do you think she was acting a little shady?
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Do you think she and her husband really were in
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: the process of getting a divorce or do you think
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: he said I'm not going to be on the.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Show whatever I do.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: And she goes, well, I'll just have a fake boyfriend,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: but you'll never see me touch him or kiss him
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: or anything.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: And her husband said, Okay.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: That's what I thought.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: But then also apparently TMZ said they like found that
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: the divorce did go through. I'm pretty sure I saw
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: that on TMC. So it's like it does seem like
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: maybe they did get divorced and got back together.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: I'm but I'm not sure.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Her husband is the heir to what like the Fiat fortune?
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: Whoa really?
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you, Stacy from looking up rhop husband husband.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, TMO Rouche is his name. I'm looking him up now,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: and I'll.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Tell you what he does. The m O r U
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: s C h AUDI.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Oh oh holy shit.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: He's senior VP for sales operations of Audi of America,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: and I believe he comes from that Audi family.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: From like, yeah, well he's.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: A German native and uh yeah that you know, it
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: says he's worth you know, the bazillion trillion billion dollars,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: you know whatever. You know, he has a base salary
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: of two hundred k plus one hundred and eight bonus
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: plus you know, he earns up to seven hundred thousand annually.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: Whatever.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: He's from Germany and his people are Audi, So he's rich.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: So why did they get divorced in the first place?
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Why did they decide to get back together after she
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: had the fake boyfriend.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: It's very weird.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: It's very suspicious, and I like that she just won't
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: explain it, and she doesn't do it well either, And
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, I'm here for this bad deflection.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Apparently she looks perpetually surprised to be there. You know,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: they'll say Stacy, she's like.
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: Well stiff and like like, I'm just just I don't
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: know why I find her so like endearing.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm very surprised that she that they invited
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: to wrack, but maybe they're they're like talking about her
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: bad breath and all that.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: She's like, what that was so mean?
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: And they put out like mids.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, now I'm worried about
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: my bad breath.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, so if he's been a speaking of punching bags,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: let's go over to the o.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: C Oh my gosh.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: We have this episode where Heather spreads her dad's ashes
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: in Amsterdam, and that was interesting that they got to
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: go to the house and stuff. It's interesting too that
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: her dad I passed away and now she's just fully like, yeah,
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: he wasn't a good dad.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he wasn't. He wasn't sold sold to us
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: like that initially.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so now he's gone. So I was like,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: well whatever.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: And it was interesting that she's like facetimes her mom
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: to be like, God, I'm in this house that you
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: lived in.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: She's of course she's not answering. Of course she doesn't.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Answer, right.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: I liked that on this episode Heather showed Heather just
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: really likes to do drugs, is what we're finding out.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Yea.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: Heather's like.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's like she's like handing out shrooms to everyone.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: And that was hilarious when they were in that place
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: and she and I was like, do you guys hear
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: the theme music?
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Theme music and yeah, no, I loved that. I loved it.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: I think listen, Shannon, her wacky stuff does get old,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: you know, I was.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: She definitely plays it up.
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: It's also like not the most annoying thing on our
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: screens during this show.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: So right now, the Gretchen situation, Okay, Now, I feel
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: like any of us that follow Bravo have we've known
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: this is coming.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: We've just been waiting, right, Yeah, That's why I was
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: listening to Watcho Crappens, and I feel like they have
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: the same opinion as me, where it's just like, yeah,
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: we've known about this for years, like, yeah, this isn't
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: a surprise. I sort of assumed we were all just
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: gonna overlook it or pretend we didn't care.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Once she got recast.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of the her liking
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: these things because I haven't somebody I heard somebody on
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: a podcast give a theory. You know, when you come
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: across something on your Instagram and it's.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: A picture, but it's a carousel, right, You just.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: Like the first picture and then you keep going, well,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: the fifth picture could be something terrible that you didn't see,
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: or it could be then with the political figure that
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: you don't agree with something. So that's one theory.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: But.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Her reaction was so wild that she was just like
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: so it makes me almost.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Believe her because her reaction was so like, I don't
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: know what you're talking about. I've never seen this before,
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: and I don't know what to believe, because I do
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: think that where I heard this before this aired months ago,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: was that I do know Tamar told a friend of
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: mine and oh, told a friend of mine, Hey, this
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: is coming, this is happening.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: I just I just saw like in the blogs or whatever, yeah,
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: two or whatever it was like or twenty twenty three.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: It was like Gretchen liked a bunch of these posts, right,
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: and so yeah, I'm not shocked.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: No, we're not shocked about that.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: But what is shocking is that we all knew that
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: this happened at their last dinner or whatever. We all
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: knew that it happened, and then what they did was
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: they tried to trick us while putting up the face cards.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Halfway through the episode, they were like, we know it's coming,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: and then it did. And then I do like how
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: sometimes they pick up cameras you know later and be like,
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: have them all sitting on the couch listening to this.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, look at the message I got.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, listen to the blogger saying, the whole time you
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: guys were filming, I knew X y Z and I
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: do think a lot of that comes from camera.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: I do for sure.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: So that's why it's.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: So hard for me to be like, Gretchen really liked
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: all this, you know, anti gay stuff.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: It's hard for me. Listen.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know what Gretchen's beliefs are. I would believe
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: that she liked it. Okay, that's what I'm saying. She
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: does appear to maybe be that girl, right, But is
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: she stupid enough? Because she's on social media so much
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: it makes most of her money off social media. Is
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: she stupid enough to like all that stuff knowing anybody
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: can see what you like. If she's trying to keep
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: it neutral, to sell her cupcakes or whatever she's trying to.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Sell in her head, I.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: Think she is stupid enough.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: I have a more sinister view where I'm like, I
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: think she's stupid enough. I think she wasn't thinking about
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: getting back on the show or anything.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: I think, and I think.
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: I think because I was like this happened to like
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: two years before she got rehired, So it's like, I
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: think she was just doing her like maga thing being
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: like and I think, I mean, I think a lot
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: of people, especially at that time, were very much caught
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: up in a fervor of like, we care about the children,
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: and so I think, like, I mean again, I have
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: a more sinister view of Gretchen where I'm like, if
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: you listen to the words she chooses, she is she
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: very carefully like does not ever mention trans people, only
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: references the gay community, and like mentioned she had a
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: drag queen come to a brunch where I'm like, which
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: was two thousand nine.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm like, she's.
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: Not saying she doesn't think trans people are dangerous to children,
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: like this thing said, and she's not like she's just saying, like,
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: you know, I want and think that I would believe
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: she was on a on a little like I I
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: care about the children liking spree and didn't really think
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: anything of it and thinks of it.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: And I.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: Have a feeling that sort of rhetoric is often very
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: much framed as caring about children, not like spreading hate, right,
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: I think, Yeah, and so I I think she just
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: didn't really think about it until it came back up
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: and was like, oh shit, A lot of people consider
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: this hateful and not just like pro kids.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, now I'm looking at it differently. I can be
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: I can be flipped so easily I'm looking at I
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: guess I'm looking at it from the termera angle of
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: If what Gretchen says is true is that she had
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: a forensic social media person go through and figure out
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: that Tamra created all this havoc.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: Camera shots two years before you get rehired, Tamra's like
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: putting her energy into like faking screenshots, Like.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, like, I think it'll be interesting to see
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: what happens, because if Gretchen's got this proof that this
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: none of this came from her, all of this was faked,
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: went into her account, so she didn't like any of
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: this stuff.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: All of this was faked and Tamra faked at the
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: dates and.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. If all that is true, that'll be
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: super interesting.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: Good like that.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: But that also, I mean, unless I'm wrong, like that
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: would imply Tama's playing a long game, and it's like,
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: I just hate Gretchen so much that randomly, years after
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: she's been off the show and a couple of years
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: before she's going to come back on, I'm just gonna
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: like make up random screenshots. No.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: I think that maybe once she found out Gretchen was
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: coming on the show.
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: Oh you think she like retroactively did it. But yeah, yeah,
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: But I feel like I first saw like a blog
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: post about this, like when they first were liked in
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: like twenty twenty three.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: That's that.
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, maybe I'm making it up, but it's like
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: I feel like I've known about this for a long time.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: Tamer could have told when I put air quote a blogger,
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: which is just an Instagram person, right, Tamer can have
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: told that person in twenty twenty three and then just
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: sort of like when she got rehired, just like nobody
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: remember this show. Well, let me hang on to it, right, Well.
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: I turned into a conspiracy theorist where I think Slade
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: and Gretchen have productions here and have been promised like
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: a rehabbed image and that like people were gonna be
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: on their side.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: Like I'm making.
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: It up, obviously, but it's sort of the vibe I'm
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: getting where it's like we're not going to talk about
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: naked wasted anymore. That's like off the table, and instead
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: we're gonna make Gretchen look really good and and you know,
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: anything negative that comes up, like we'll toss it in
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: at the last episode and then say like it was fake.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: I will say, but I do believe that at that
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: dinner with Katie and them. I do believe Gretchen got
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: carried away with her own story and said, God, you guys,
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: I was so sick after that I had to go
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: to the hospital. I do believe she said that. And
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: why she couldn't just have the time go, I don't know.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: I had six drinks. If I said that, I was
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: just exaggerating. I didn't actually go to the hospital, but
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: I felt sick enough.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: Like I couldn't. I was sick enough that, like some
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: people would have.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know why she shouldn't go. I
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: don't remember saying that. And maybe I just like got
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: carried away with my own story and exaggerated.
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in the words of my dad, it'll you'll say something,
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: I go, Dad, that's not how it happened.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: To'll go, Well, it makes a better story, right, right,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: you know, I do.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: Think at that dinner she did all that, and I
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: do listen, I'm not like a giant fan of Katie,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: because I think Katie also was kind of trying to
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: play the blogger game. Oh yeah, sure, and get people
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: in the OSID to be your friend and then would
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: drop them and clout chasing this one's bigger than this
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: one and all that. But I do think, uh, Katie
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: probably secured herself with another spot on the show.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: Right yeah.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: And you see when we see the preview for the reunion,
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: we see Jin and Katie talking about you're trying to basically,
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: you're trying to take my money by getting me kicked
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: off the show, right yeah.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you wanted to make sure I didn't get a paycheck.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't get a paycheck.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: It's funny too, because you know that next time, if
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: they're both on the next season, it'll be like, well,
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: when we were in New York, you said, you know,
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: and we were in New York.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: When we were in New York, we were in New York.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: And then you went on a show and said, then
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: the show is like watch what happens Live.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: I'm like, watch, just say you told Andy, watch what
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: Happens Live.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I guess it's just sometimes it gets too
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: meta maybe.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: Right, right, that's true.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Well, because I don't watch the Below Deck, I will listen.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: I think it's great that they did this because now
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: whatever the new Below Deck season is, I'm going to
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: watch the whole.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: Thing, right Yeah.
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: And I think Andy said I'm watching What Happens Live,
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: like it'll probably be a three episode arc on on
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: on Below Deck as well, so like, so funny, They're
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: gonna milk that content and I'll probably watch it because
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: it is really funny.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: I did see bron wand say that she slept on
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: that deck chair because there was also no act room
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: wasn't working. But I think for what I've seen on
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Below Deck, they won't allow you to sleep on.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: The deck like that.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, so that was fake.
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: Maybe she went up there late or yeah, like early
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: in the morning or something, because.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: That there's couches everywhere.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: I would say, also there's couches inside.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Like do you ever see some of those boats and
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: you think, God, I just want to get on one
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: of those and just really see what's doing. I really
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: want to, like, because I've seen yachts and you think Okay,
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: that probably has like two bedrooms in it. I've never
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: seen one that has like four bedrooms most primary. Yeah,
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: and then below they have all the bunk rooms and
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: full kitchen. I would really just like to go on one
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: of those and see what's going on there.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're so they're so cool.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: With the staff and whatnot. I know, I know, yeah,
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: God'll never happen for me, I don't.
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: I know, right, I was like, even at the discounted
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: below deck rate can't afford that. The last tip they
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: got was forty thousand dollars. I was like, I can't
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: tip that much. I can't pay them.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: Heather McDonald said, she got they got, she got invited
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: to go they and they only were going to be
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: required to pay the tip at the end. So she
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: was trying to find like some rich couples to go
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: with them to like split the tip or whatever.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: She goes. But then you do still have to get
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: yourself to the other country.
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: Right, You still have to take a you know, go
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: to the Caribbean or the med or wherever.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: Wherever and she goes and then spend the night, you know,
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: to get used to the time zone before you get
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: on the boat. And then it's only really two nights, right,
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: and then you gotta pay. I'm like twenty thousand dollars,
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: it's a lot. Yeah, She's like, yeah, it's not. Maybe,
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: but I guess if you just want to be on TV,
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: maybe it's worth it.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: I do think the charters are shorter than your average charter.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: The two nights. Yeah, so, but yeah, and it's like,
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: get a little taste.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Poor Angie. I was like, cod somebody give her an
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: iv a zophran, Like what happening?
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: So bad for her? That's always just the saddest.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: And then Brittany got up in puked dinner and dinner
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: and it came right back to her chugging tequila.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, I was impressed. I was.
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: I wasn't like worried or judging her. I was just like, shit,
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: I could not have done that.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: I was like, girl, maybe stick into some water, maybe
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: some ginger ale.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: And her explanation was, I want to feel better.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: You got Salt Lake City, I think is the best one,
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: but Beverly Hills is coming up.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: I know, I know.
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: And we got teased that like Kyle may admit she's
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: actually by which is which is always.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: Exciting again, just like the Gretchen b and Maga big surprise.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: Right, It's like Guice, we always knew.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Everybody stunned.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: You know, he had a.
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: Literal girlfriend on the show that she wouldn't quite call
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: a girlfriend, but still I know.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: She says that's because Morgan didn't want to talk about it.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, well that'll be interesting too. Well,
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: you now have to get back together when vander Pump
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: starts back. And because like I've told you, that's vander
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: Pump is my gateway Bravo drug and I'm.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: Just going to be I'm so curious what it's going
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: to be like.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: If it gives the Valley and it gives us like
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: a renewed love of sir that nasty, nasty restaurant with
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: that disgusting bathroom cheese balls, yes, If it gives us
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: a renewed want to make goat cheese balls in our
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: own kitchens, then okay. But if there's a bunch of
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: new people that I can tell are all just acting
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: because they want to be on vander Pump rolls, then.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: If it's reminiscent too much of like southern hospitality, I
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: don't know.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know how much I can do.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: I didn't watch that one.
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: It's just I tried, and it's very much like trying
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: to be vander Pump, but like they're all too self
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: aware and trying to start their own Instagram, DJ careers
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: and stuff.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so other darms coming back.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: I saw that, Oh right, yeah, I saw a trailer
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: for that. My daughter walked through the room and goes,
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: Catherine din is still in jail. I was like, I
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: don't know, bless her heart, I don't know. She Yah
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: had some problems.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't I feel I feel bad for her.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: She needs Yeah, she's a she's a year long treatment center.
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, she needs to just get away from her
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: environment and be helped.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: And yeah yeah she's to look at the rabbitel bridge
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: every day.
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, I was gonna say, I hate that she
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: has tied to him for the rest of her life,
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: because I know I think he was a full piece
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: of ship, but.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Full fully part of the problem of her.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Tamas, All.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: Right, Jilla, to tell everybody all about your show and
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: where they can find it and what's coming up next.
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: It's hot Mesterpiece Theater where we take we take reality
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: TV seriously like it is real art, because it is.
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: It's just it's the same stories we're always telling.
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: And I talked to really great guests like Mary Payne
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: about their all time faceavorite reality TV scenes, and we
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: break down why they're so great and compelling and why
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: we can't get enough of it. And Mary Payne's episode
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: about vander Pump is coming up in a week or two.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's exciting. That's exciting.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: I love how much she'd like record in advance.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, I try it comes in waves.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, me too.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: I was supposed to record a couple of in Advanced
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: ninety episodes since I'm going to be out of town
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: next week, and then the screeners were late, and it's.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: Like, ugh, well that like dictates everything.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm running around like hair on fire. But I'm
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: thrilled to talk to you and you guys. Also today
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: on Thursday, there's going to be a bonus episode where
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: I'm going to talk with Megan O'Brien who owns this
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: company called Ring My Bell. She's gonna have a brute
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: a booth at Bravocon. So part owners of her company
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: are Cynthia Bailey Luanne, Meredith, Gertie, and she does all
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: like if you go to her Instagram and stuff, it's
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: all housewives glam and stuff that she does.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: And so she's gonna come on to do.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: A Bravo episode as well to talk about kind of
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: what it's like to be around all those women, like
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: doing the glam and stuff, which I'm fascinated by. Yeah,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, can you give me any tips because
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: I'd like to look twenty years younger as well.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, yeah, how should I be doing my
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: ie makeup?
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's not this laft it on four seconds before
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: I came on.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: Not in a frantic dash.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: That I got for like for free in a gift
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: block somewhere. Everybody, make sure you're following Jelina. You can
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: find her at Hot Master Pece Theater and also at
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Gilnta Greenberg writer Gilanta g.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: Is that what it is?
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: Doolenta underscore g on Instagram?
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, and uh, I'll be on in a couple of weeks,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: but I'll post about it whenever it comes out.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: All right, thank you, thank you,