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#184 The Supernatural Power of Prayer and Fasting - Part 2 (With Special Guest Dr. Ronnie Floyd) · The OneCry Podcast

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  Music.
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  Wants us to do. There is a blessing. There is a sense of God's presence and
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  His power like never before in our lives.
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  And I believe we experience an element of the power of God with and through.
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  Music.
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  Fasting that we may not otherwise.
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  Welcome to the One Cry Podcast, a nationwide call for spiritual awakening.
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  The goal, accelerating the movement of God through sharing revival truth, stories, and reports.
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  Well, welcome once again to the One Cry Podcast.
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  I'm Bill Elliff, and I'm so excited to have again my buddy, Ronnie Floyd,
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  join with us. Most of you know Ronnie.
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  He's a nationally known figure and author.
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  He's written many books, and the Lord's used him all over the country in so
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  many ways, and particularly his heart for prayer, his leading of the National
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  Day of Prayer for several years,
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  and the president of the Southern Matters Convention for several years,
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  and building a great church up in northwest Arkansas. saw.
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  But Ronnie, the thing that endears my heart to you, other than just our friendship,
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  and which is pretty rich, is your passion.
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  You just never, I know you always wanted to be a coach and you still do.
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  You mentioned that last podcast and you've got the coaches something.
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  Every coach has got it, that you just won't let up. You're just like a bulldog.
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  And you've got that bulldog passion and tenacity about revival and spiritual
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  awakening and about prayer and fasting.
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  And that's because you've experienced it, I think.
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  And so you've written a new book, The Supernatural Power of prayer and fasting.
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  And tell us about this. It's just coming out right now and people can get it
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  on Amazon or Barnes and Nobles, anywhere you can get books.
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  You can get a Kindle version or even, I think you have an audible version,
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  you said. That's correct. Yes.
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  So tell us a little bit about this book. We're going to dive into it here in a minute. But
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  Why did you write this book? Well, I tell you, thank you very much,
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  Bill, for the privilege to be on again with you.
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  And thanks for our time together last week as well.
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  I really wrote the book because the publisher came and said,
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  listen, you haven't written on fasting in 14 years.
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  And we don't want you to do a rewrite, but would you consider writing a new
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  book on fasting and prayer?
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  And talking about some new truths that perhaps you've learned and principles
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  you've learned over the last 14 years since you talked about some of it before.
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  And that kind of jump-started the conversation. And so that's what we got into.
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  And I prayed about it and just felt compelled to do it.
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  And it took me about two months to write the book. And they wanted a comprehensive
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  version of the book. And that's what I gave them.
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  And so, you know, I pray that it will nourish people and it will flourish lives.
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  And there's a lot of information, but there's also going to be, I believe, deeply.
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  And I claim it in the name of Jesus today. There's going to be much transformation
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  because when people get a hold,
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  not of what I say, but about the principle of just praying and then coupling it with fasting.
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  Yeah. Thing mysterious happens, something supernatural occurs,
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  and we find it in biblical times.
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  We find it historically and we find it presently.
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  You know, I get tickled at people who say, well, you know, you just,
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  I think we're making stuff up.
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  And the reality is we're restating in just simple terms what Christ has already said.
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  Sure. And he's the one who told us to do this. He's the one.
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  You told me, and you got it in the back of your book and one of the appendices.
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  How many references are there in scripture to fasting?
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  Yeah. Well, that's that's great. That's the fifth appendices in the book.
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  And I list all the scriptures of about fasting mentioned in the scripture that's
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  relating to fasting from food.
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  There are 57 verses in the scripture.
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  Referenced 69 times is the word fast or fasting used in the scripture.
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  I told someone the other day in an interview, Bill, you know,
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  if Jesus or somebody would have said it in the scripture. I mean,
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  Jesus wrote the book and, you know, he if he said it once, that was enough.
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  But it's amazing how much the church never declares what was prominent in Scripture.
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  And we know God used in powerful, powerful ways.
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  I really believe that if the New Testament church that we read about in the
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  book of Acts and over in the epistles, but especially in the book of Acts.
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  I believe if the new church that God birthed at that time would look at what
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  the church and where the church is today, I think they would ask us this question.
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  Do you not believe in the supernatural power of God?
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  You guys and your churches are doing ministry without the power of God. Where's the urgency?
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  Where's the need? Where's the passion?
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  And I really believe deeply they would ask us that question.
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  You know, an old professor of mine and yours, Dr.
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  Bill Toler from Southwestern Seminary, He used to say in his hermeneutics class,
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  if the Bible says a lot about something, you say a lot about it.
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  If it doesn't say much, you don't say much. That's a pretty good rule of thumb.
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  That's right. And the prayer is mentioned 650 times in the Bible.
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  My Bible has 1,000 pages in it. So you just think about that.
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  And yet we don't talk about prayer.
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  We don't talk about fasting.
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  We rarely talk about the Holy Spirit, which is one of the most prominent themes.
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  I think 59 times the Spirit is mentioned in the 28 chapters of the book of Acts.
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  So this call in this book, and I just want to say to our listeners.
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  Most of us have your book that was written back in the 90s on prayer in our libraries.
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  This is not a rehashing of that book. This is new information.
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  So you say, well, I already read his book on faith. No, this will help you.
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  This will take you farther.
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  And Lord knows we need to be taken farther in this. We need to understand it better.
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  And part of what you do in really the heart of this book,
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  is you take the value of fasting and what it will do.
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  And it's like Jesus said, you know, if a man can ever find the treasure in a
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  field, he'll go sell everything. If he can see the value of the pearl of great
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  price, he'll sell everything to possess it.
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  And you just say, now look what God will do.
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  Look at the supernatural power. And I don't think you meant by this,
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  Ronnie. In fact, we've talked about it.
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  You didn't mean, well, one, two, three, four, five, these things are going to happen.
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  Right. You are just listing for us all of the potential supernatural things
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  that God can do when we encounter him in a new way to fasting.
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  And you've listed 12 of these. And I'd love for you to talk about a few of them.
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  You talk about that fasting 12 ways God will change your life through prayer.
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  In fast, not just fasting, but through prayer and fasting.
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  And number one is experiencing God's power.
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  Why is that so? Why does that happen in supernatural ways when we fast and pray?
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  I believe anytime we're obedient to do what God wants us to do, there is a blessing.
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  There is a sense
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  of God's presence and his power like never
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  before in our lives and I
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  believe we experience an element of the power of God with and through fasting
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  that we may not otherwise I'm not saying we're not I said may underline that
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  may not experience otherwise but there is immediacy.
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  Of the Lord's presence that comes and walks with you through that.
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  And, you know, the whole element of being in the presence of God and what happens when we do that.
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  Yeah. I mean, there is a powerful moment there.
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  You think about what Jehoshaphat did. He led the people of God into fasting and praying.
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  They were surrounded by the enemies and God did a miracle through that prayer
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  and through that fasting moment.
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  Look at the book of Esther, the same thing.
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  When she called the people to fast and pray, God gave her boldness.
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  God gave her courage. And she said, if I perish, I perish. Wow.
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  Wow. That is a devout commitment. Whatever happens, I'm good because I'm doing it God's way.
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  It's fascinating in it how many times God said, proclaim a fast. I mean, he called for it.
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  Consecrate the people, get them ready. You know, Joel's prophecy, gather them together.
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  I mean, that was almost just the common means that God used to get us back to
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  him and get us on the right track and get us on the same page.
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  We just we see it over and over again, don't we?
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  Absolutely. And you referring to the Joel passage. Think about the powerful promise of Joel 228.
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  You know in relationship after this we
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  will experience this outpouring of of the holy spirit the scripture says and
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  the gospel will be preached whoever will call upon the name of the lord will
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  be saved it's talking about a phenomenal move of god but i i'm caught by those words after this wow.
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  Now, I tell you what, that's strong. I talk about that in the book because you see, after what?
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  I mean, that's what we have to ask ourselves. After what?
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  Well, after they fasted, after they prayed, after they confessed their sins,
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  after they made a new commitment to obedience, after those things.
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  This is what God did.
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  And you know they saw God move before
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  and in it and then all of a sudden God says I'm
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  about to do something that you've never seen before
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  and so that I think one of the
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  most phenomenal passages and now this is after uh over 40 years of ministry
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  uh Bill so I'm about to say something that might sound a little crazy to somebody
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  that thinks they know everything okay but I don't know everything And I preach
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  fasting a lot in my life. I have practiced it.
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  I don't know who's preached on it more across the country.
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  I'm sure there's many people, but I know I've preached on it a lot around the nation.
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  But I tell you what, the Lord showed me something about two years ago.
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  And I think I've only preached it once or twice.
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  Haven't ever preached it at cross church even in my time there.
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  But over in the book of Ezra, in chapter number eight, verse 21 through 23,
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  there is a powerful scripture there.
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  Remember, Ezra was called to lead the people back to Jerusalem.
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  He had told the king how great God was. And the king gave him favor to go.
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  And Ezra knew as soon as the king said, you can go, he had the favor of the king.
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  Ezra knew that he was going to have to go through enemy territory to get there.
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  The scripture says he knew he could call upon the king, giving him a cavalry
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  to show him the way and to protect him.
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  But what would the king think? if my God was so great that I needed men.
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  So I proclaimed a fast. Wow.
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  Wow. I mean, yeah, wow. There's no other word for it. It's wow.
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  He proclaimed that fast. All right?
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  So I think there are some decisions that every fast goes through,
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  individual and collective. And it's all found in those three verses.
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  All right. Let me see if I can recall them in my memory today.
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  Fasting is always a spiritual decision. Then I proclaimed a fast.
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  Very important.
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  It is also a humbling decision.
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  I proclaim to fast that we might humble ourselves.
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  There is a correlation in the scriptures with humbling ourselves before God
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  and praying and fasting.
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  Right. Then he said, so I proclaim to fast so that we might humble ourselves
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  to seek our God for a safe journey.
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  That's the goal. We need a safe journey.
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  And that's the third word is specific. Any fast you go on in your life,
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  there needs to be a specific or a number of specific things you are fasting
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  and praying for in your life. Okay.
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  Specific thing. All right. They wanted one thing. We want to be safe.
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  All right. And then the next one is, so we began to fast and pray.
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  That was a faith decision.
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  Fasting is a faith decision. And then there was a powerful decision because
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  God heard their pleading and he answered their fast. Praise God.
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  The scripture says later on in the verses is one verse later,
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  a few verses later, but there's only one verse.
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  And it says, and God protected them from the ambushes and took them on their way.
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  Wow. That's what God does. and those five things are going to happen in any
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  fast you go through individually or collectively those decisions you're making.
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  I'm not saying to say, no, I got to do this, this is, but it's,
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  it's just a collective mindset.
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  You know, I, I have a feeling that most of us because of our Satan has done
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  a really good job in trying to convince us that God is.
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  It doesn't love us and he doesn't have our best interests at heart and his kingdom at heart.
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  But the Lord, you know, the reason he tells us these things is for our good
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  and his glory and others good.
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  And so when he when he says, I always imagine in that Matthew six passage where
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  Jesus says, now, when you fast.
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  And I imagine if he had glasses, he would lower them and look over his glasses
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  and say, you are fasting, right?
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  You know, when you pray, now you are praying, right?
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  That's right. And it's just assumed by him, but it's for our good.
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  It's for our good. And we don't, you know, we look at fasting as this kind of horrific thing.
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  Well, no, it's a doorway into more of God and more of his power.
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  Right. And we ought to rejoice. We ought to run through that door.
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  Now, you and I both know because we've experienced it's not easy.
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  It's not physically easy to do.
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  I think once you get into a fast, it's a lot easier than deciding, making that faith step.
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  It's kind of saying God is calling me. Okay, I'm going to do this.
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  I'm going to cooperate with God.
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  It gets easier as you're in it because life gets a little less complicated, honestly. Right.
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  And but God wants to do things to that that can't be done any other way.
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  Well, one of these things that you mentioned, I want you to talk about because
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  it's a it's a chapter in your book.
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  Ronnie, I have thought.
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  Pride all my stinking life. In fact,
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  I said to somebody the other day when I had to come back and ask their forgiveness
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  because I had responded to them in pride and I wanted them to know something
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  I'd done and I kind of wove it into the conversation.
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  I said, man, forgive me. I said, I just keep thinking, when am I going to be done with this?
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  I don't think I'm going to be done until I die, probably, because God wants
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  to constantly remind me of how desperately I need him.
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  And there's this little verse in Psalm 35 that David said, I humbled my soul through fasting.
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  You just mentioned in the Joel passage that we will humble ourselves.
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  And one of these, chapter three is walking humbly before God.
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  Why is that? What is it about fasting that helps break the back of pride in your life.
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  And, you know, God says he's opposed to the proud. It's a strong statement.
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  But he pours out grace on the humble. That's right. How does fasting help us get there?
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  Yeah, well, Pastor, I think it goes back to this whole element of not depending
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  on ourselves, because we can't fast if we're depending on ourselves.
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  And I think God uses the simplicity of the weakness that may come at times in
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  our bodies in relationship to fasting.
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  I think there's also an uncovering of sin that goes on in fasting.
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  And that's oftentimes when we have pride revealed to us because we slow down long enough.
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  And we finally hear what God is saying to us and God is reminding us,
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  son, you need to understand this isn't about you.
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  And how many times have we gone to the school of pride, the school and the woodshed about our pride?
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  I mean, I will never forget the moment.
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  Early morning, early morning.
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  In the first 40-day fast I ever went to, and God tore me up one morning early
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  because I couldn't sleep.
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  I got up with my Bible, laid on the living room floor, and I said, God, what's wrong?
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  What's wrong? And God showed me in that time that the problem with our church was not the church.
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  The problem is you. You are full of pride. You are full of yourself.
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  And he crushed me.
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  Isaiah 57, 15 is the text he used to take me to the wood shed.
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  Because there's two places God dwells.
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  He dwells with the high and the holy hill.
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  And he dwells with the humble and the contrite. So how much of God do you want?
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  God doesn't share his glory with anybody. How much of God do you want?
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  In your church or yourself or whatever.
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  And on that night, early morning, I remember writing down a statement and I
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  don't know where it came from except God.
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  When pride walks on the platform God walks off wow.
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  And I try my very best to the glory of God and by the grace of God since that
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  day to try not to ever let my pride walk on the platform because I want God.
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  I mean, if they don't hear from God, Lord, do you think I'm going to help them?
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  I'm not. Yeah. What good is that? Yeah.
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  What good is that? That's a quick fix, man. It's probably real quick with me.
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  You know, you never forget a moment like that.
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  I had in 1986 during a life action meeting in our church, and I was sitting
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  on the front row and I was saying,
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  God, send revival to me first. I need it.
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  And before I knew what was happening, I was on my face. the Delphais McHale was preaching.
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  And the Lord was just that same experience, Ronnie.
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  He just said, Bill, why is it that you get upset when your wife didn't even
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  remember what you preached last Sunday?
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  That's pride. Why is it that you always have to weave your name in the conversation?
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  That's pride. And I'm telling you, Ronnie, he walked through this litany.
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  And I've often said it was the most bittersweet, precious, grueling experience of my life.
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  And I never, he just showed me the groundwork of my heart. I was just full of pride.
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  I've just never forgotten that moment. I forget it temporarily,
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  but you know, all of us need that watershed moment.
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  Yes. When we come to the end of ourself and see the depth of our pride. That's right.
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  And fasting, I think you're saying, and I would agree with this, is...
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  It's just one of the many means that God can use to take us there.
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  And if there's somebody listening today who says, man, I feel distant from God.
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  I don't I don't love the Lord like I once did.
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  I just find that I I'm kind of doing everything in the energy of the flesh.
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  And we're not seeing God move in our church. We're not seeing God move in my
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  family or, you know, one of these here. We don't have time to go into it,
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  but it's believing God for your family.
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  And so many people have a prodigal child and, and, and, and, and God,
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  I remember hearing James Dobson say that he and Shirley fasted every Friday
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  during the whole, I think the whole course of their children's life till they
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  got out of their homes every Friday for his son and daughter.
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  And what a commitment and how the Lord can use that.
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  So, Ronnie, you're just, we could talk for days about this and I would love
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  every minute of it, but I want to encourage people to, we're going to pray together
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  and I'm going to ask you to lead us.
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  But I want to encourage people to buy the book.
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  We're not selling books here, but I just want you to go to Amazon or wherever
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  and get this book and just ask the Lord, God, are you calling me to a deeper level?
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  Are you wanting more from me?
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  Because I see God moving across our nation right now in a way that I haven't seen in 50 years.
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  And we've been praying for it. We've been fasting for it for a long time.
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  And I think we're in the foothills of revival where it's not the tsunami that
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  we want to see, But we're in the foothills and we're seeing extraordinary things
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  on college campuses and in churches.
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  I think COVID was even a part of that that kind of brought us to the end of
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  ourselves and got us ready for this.
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  Even internationally, we're seeing that.
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  And I don't want to miss that. God's moving across something we prayed for for 50 years.
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  I don't want to be twiddling my thumbs over here while the Holy Spirit's moving.
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  And I want to position myself for revival.
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  And I think this book and just the emphasis of it and the whole tenor of it,
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  just there's so many things in here that is not confined to one thing,
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  but just so many things that would help us just position ourselves for revival and awakening.
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  And Ronnie, we're so grateful you came these last weeks.
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  And would you help us by praying over us?
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  We're going to join with you in prayer, but pray over us, asking God to just
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  get us in the right posture.
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  I'll be glad to, Bill. Well, I tell you one thing I want to say before I lead us in prayer is this.
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  I feel deeply led by the Spirit to say this to you, to everyone listening.
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  You said the question comes, how is the church going to answer this moment in America?
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  You know, America has some great moments of hope right now.
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  And many people believe that we are entering a good era here in this nation.
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  Some believe probably not. But regardless, what's our role as the church?
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  I mean, what is the church supposed to do? I'll tell you what the church needs
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  to do. The church needs to embrace the moment.
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  Yes, we need to be the salt and the light in the culture, in the public square,
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  unashamedly, with great boldness and commitment.
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  But we need to be the ones who are doing what the world will not do, and that is pray.
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  Pray, pray for America, pray and fast for America, pray and fast for the next
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  great move of God that God wants to bring to this land.
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  And we don't know where it's going to come from.
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  We don't know who's going to have their life totally turned upside down.
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  And we may not ever even know who they are.
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  And that's fine. What we want to know is we want to know the presence of God
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  and the power of God. And so with that, let's pray and petition the Lord about that today.
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  Lord, you are calling people to pray and fast.
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  Jesus did not say if you pray, if you give, and if you fast.
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  He said when you pray, when you give, and when you fast.
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  And Lord, I pray that we will find moments and times when God is speaking to us that we need to fast.
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  We need to count the cost.
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  Lord, I pray that churches will fast.
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  We've turned prayer into a one minute transition moment in a worship service.
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  Shame on us and we need to repent of it.
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  Yes. God, we need the hand of God to come upon the church of God and Lord,
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  upon churches in this country.
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  And we pray for a mighty, mighty spiritual revival among multiple churches,
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  hundreds and hundreds and even thousands of churches, hundreds of university campuses.
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  Holy Spirit, fall.
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  We plead with God that you would do that. And Lord, we need to be ready.
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  And praying and fasting gets us ready. Praying and fasting escort us into the
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  powerful presence and the supernatural power of God.
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  So I pray, Lord, that we will go and be all that God wants us to be and to go where God wants us to go.
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  Holy Spirit, move.
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  Holy Spirit, fall. Give us a
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  great outpouring of the spirit of God across America and around the world,
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  sweeping literally millions into the kingdom of God. We will give you praise.
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  We will give you glory. And we pray this in Jesus name.
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  Amen. Amen. Amen.
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  Well, strong day. Strong word. And thank you so much, Ronnie, for joining us.
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  And, you know, the wonderful thing about a podcast is it's not confined to this
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  moment. You can come back and listen to it anytime.
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  And I want to encourage our listeners and go on to OneCry.com,
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  get the link for this podcast and send it out.
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  Put it out on social media. Say, hey, listen to this. You need to hear this.
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  And because I think we've talked about some powerful things these last two weeks
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  that people that you know and love need to hear and from a good,
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  reputable source of someone who not only understands this topic biblically and
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  theologically but has experienced it.
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  You know, this is not, well, you ought to do this. I'm not going to do it,
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  but you ought to do this. This is from someone who has been there and has seen
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  the supernatural power of prayer and fasting.
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  So I want you to get the book. I encourage you to do that.
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  And join us again as we meet next week and cry out to the Lord with one cry.
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  Thanks again for joining us.
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  Music.