Latest / Becker’s Healthcare - Clinical Leadership Podcast / Building the Future of Healthcare: Insights from Dr. Susan Moffatt-Bruce, MD, PhD on Lahey Hospital’s New Medical School Campus
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- 1:14Welcome to the Becker's Healthcare podcast. My name
- 1:17is Paige Twenter. I'm an assistant editor here
- 1:20at Becker's Healthcare.
- 1:21I'm thrilled today to be interviewing doctor Moffat
- 1:24Bruce.
- 1:26Thank you so much for joining me. Before
- 1:28we dive in, I'd like I'd love to
- 1:30have her introduce herself and tell us about
- 1:32her background.
- 1:34That's great. Well, thank you very much for
- 1:36the opportunity to be here today.
- 1:39So I am Susan Moffett Bruce. I am
- 1:42the president
- 1:43of Leahy Hospital and Medical Center.
- 1:46I have been, at Leahy for,
- 1:48about 16 months.
- 1:51I am a cardiothoracic surgeon by training and
- 1:54trade,
- 1:55and I have been probably in health care
- 1:58and leadership roles in health care for about
- 2:0125 years.
- 2:03I'm fairly new to the New England,
- 2:05area. I came from Ottawa, Canada,
- 2:09where I was the CEO of the Royal
- 2:11College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada.
- 2:14And prior to that, I was at The
- 2:16Ohio State University,
- 2:18in progressive
- 2:19leadership roles, including,
- 2:21the inaugural chief quality officer
- 2:24for the, integrated health care system there. So
- 2:27absolutely delighted to now be here at Leahy
- 2:30and, have had an absolutely
- 2:32fantastic
- 2:3316 months, thus far here in New England.
- 2:38Great. Great. I'm sure it was a big
- 2:40jump from
- 2:41Canada to New England. Hopefully, it's
- 2:44going well, the transition.
- 2:46Yeah. At
- 2:47your hospital,
- 2:49what would you say is the most successful
- 2:51project or initiative from the past year?
- 2:56So thank you for that question, and and
- 2:58we've had, you know, a very busy year.
- 3:01We serve more than, you know, a 1000000
- 3:04patients per year inclusive of inpatient and outpatient
- 3:07care.
- 3:08But I think the,
- 3:10initiative that really comes to mind is that
- 3:13of
- 3:14establishing
- 3:15and soon to welcome our welcome our first
- 3:18medical student
- 3:19to the UMass
- 3:20Chan Leahy,
- 3:22Regional Medical School.
- 3:25More than 2 years ago our dean,
- 3:27Dean Anne Rosenthal,
- 3:30was able to work and be successful in
- 3:31really striking a terrific,
- 3:32successful
- 3:33in really
- 3:34striking a terrific,
- 3:36collaboration with UMass,
- 3:39CHAN,
- 3:40Chancellor Collins, Dean Flott
- 3:43came together and we are going to be
- 3:47in becoming a medical school in less than
- 3:492 weeks.
- 3:51Really exciting to introduce 32
- 3:53new medical students to really the next generation
- 3:57of health care providers,
- 3:58and they will be trained here at Leidy.
- 4:02I'm sure you're,
- 4:04busy, busy in the next 2 weeks. What
- 4:07is still left to do,
- 4:08before
- 4:09the med school launches?
- 4:12That's an excellent question. You know, it's almost
- 4:15a year in the making to actually have
- 4:17medical
- 4:18students apply and then interview and then rank
- 4:19and and have them and and us, you
- 4:20know, mutually agree upon the medical students.
- 4:22What we have left right now is, kind
- 4:24of,
- 4:29kind of the finishing touches.
- 4:31So,
- 4:32physically, you know, just making sure that they
- 4:35have computers that they can work at,
- 4:37that they are welcome to our campus.
- 4:40We're looking at, you know, welcoming them some
- 4:42of them to Burlington for the first time.
- 4:45I I mean, it really is going to
- 4:46be just kind of the last last touches
- 4:50so that they feel truly that they're being
- 4:52welcomed into a very,
- 4:54innovative and new learning health system here at
- 4:57Leahy.
- 4:58When they arrive on August 12th, they will
- 5:01share their time between Burlington
- 5:05and Worcester, where obviously UMass Chan is,
- 5:08and we're very excited that we'll really have,
- 5:12you know, integrated medical students across 2 very
- 5:16distinct campuses
- 5:18and leverage the clinical expertise here at Leahy,
- 5:22so that they're learning from our expert clinicians,
- 5:25nurses, and staff.
- 5:28You mentioned some of these students are coming
- 5:30to Burlington for their first time. Are there
- 5:33any
- 5:34learnings or,
- 5:36kind of lessons that you've learned in the
- 5:38past 16 months from your transition, you know,
- 5:41for the first time in New England coming
- 5:42from Canada
- 5:44that you're implementing,
- 5:46for their transitions?
- 5:48Yeah. I think some of the things that
- 5:49we're trying to do to help really improve,
- 5:52their experience and try to take down some
- 5:55of the barriers, looking at ways that we
- 5:57can help
- 5:58to find housing for them.
- 6:01Obviously, in New England, that's always a bit
- 6:03of a challenge, but we're looking at ways
- 6:05to help facilitate that.
- 6:07Transportation,
- 6:09making sure that they're able to come to
- 6:11class, that they're able to come to their
- 6:13clinical rotation.
- 6:15And then, I think, just also, creating
- 6:19venues and opportunities
- 6:20for
- 6:21this,
- 6:22group of medical students
- 6:24to really have meaningful
- 6:27social and professional,
- 6:29events with the UMass Chan Worcester medical students
- 6:33as well, and there's over 200 of them,
- 6:36per year. So really trying to create community
- 6:39so that we can welcome them,
- 6:41to the to the area and so that
- 6:43they feel as if, you know, this is
- 6:45going to become their new home for the
- 6:46next 4 years and that it's going to
- 6:48be one that's very welcoming.
- 6:52Going back,
- 6:53to the past a little bit, can you
- 6:54take me through what prompted the idea for
- 6:57this project and what all the hospital had
- 7:00to do and leaders had to do to
- 7:02make it come alive.
- 7:05Yes. That's an excellent question.
- 7:07So Leahy, you know, is now
- 7:10101 years old,
- 7:12created
- 7:13in 1923 by Doctor. Frank Lahey, a surgeon
- 7:17and really a visionary relative
- 7:19to patient care,
- 7:22has accepted and has been
- 7:25very privileged to take to have met multiple
- 7:28medical students
- 7:30learn within our
- 7:31bricks and mortars and in our clinic.
- 7:34However, we've never had an official
- 7:37medical school designation.
- 7:40So the first thing that we had to
- 7:41do was kind of look at our history
- 7:43over the last many decades of taking care
- 7:46of being able to train medical students and
- 7:48say, you know what's going well?
- 7:50What do the medical students enjoy?
- 7:53How do we leverage that,
- 7:55and how do we go forward in a
- 7:57more formalized
- 7:59way with a,
- 8:01established medical school? So we actually put out
- 8:04an RFP.
- 8:06That RFP was fairly competitive,
- 8:08and then we were able to work with,
- 8:11in this instance, UMASS
- 8:13to look at how do we develop a
- 8:16collaboration
- 8:17so that the medical students
- 8:19will feel truly as if they're getting the,
- 8:21you know, the top quality medical education.
- 8:25We needed to make sure that they were
- 8:27given
- 8:28every opportunity to learn from our expert clinicians.
- 8:32And then how do we leverage the innovation
- 8:35and all of the excellence at UMass Chan
- 8:38and bring that to Leahy.
- 8:40So it was an idea that was created
- 8:43based on years of teaching medical students
- 8:46and wanting to be more formalized
- 8:48and truly recognized as a medical school.
- 8:53To that end, the final step was actually
- 8:55getting accreditation,
- 8:57standards bestowed upon us so that we do
- 9:00meet the standard of,
- 9:04medical school and medical education
- 9:06so that the med the students can be
- 9:08assured that they will get a high quality,
- 9:11care sorry. High quality education
- 9:14here at,
- 9:15Lehigh.
- 9:19And in the context
- 9:21of physician workforce and projected shortages in the
- 9:25next few years,
- 9:26what does this medical school mean specifically for
- 9:29you and your,
- 9:33hospital? So, that's a very
- 9:36specific reality that we have right now is
- 9:38around how do we think to the future
- 9:41to really train and educate
- 9:44the next generation of healthcare providers
- 9:47and how do we serve the communities
- 9:50around us. It is our anticipation,
- 9:54and really our mission
- 9:56to be able to train the next generation
- 9:58and continuous
- 9:59generations of health care providers that will serve
- 10:02the community here in New England.
- 10:05And so I do think that it's going
- 10:07to help address some of the inequity that
- 10:10exist
- 10:11relative to access and availability
- 10:13of services
- 10:15for patients,
- 10:16particularly in the primary care,
- 10:19arena.
- 10:20We know that,
- 10:22as we are community based, we have every
- 10:25opportunity to train
- 10:27community based,
- 10:29providers who could be in in many instances
- 10:33primary care physicians.
- 10:34And so I see this as really an
- 10:37opportunity,
- 10:39to contribute
- 10:41and to address some of the workforce issues
- 10:44and really be proactive
- 10:46around developing a sustainable workforce for the future.
- 10:51I'm wondering, other than building a more sustainable
- 10:56workforce, how else
- 10:57are you all planning to, measure the success
- 11:00of this medical school and its first class
- 11:02of graduates 4 years later?
- 11:05The success for us will be that we
- 11:07continue to have,
- 11:10very interested students that want to come here
- 11:13to learn.
- 11:14We will measure, obviously, and get feedback from
- 11:17the medical students themselves, what's going well, what's
- 11:21not going well, how can we improve.
- 11:23We'll also be engaging with our faculty and
- 11:26our clinicians that are teaching the medical students
- 11:28to make sure that they are having an
- 11:30excellent experience,
- 11:32and how we might continue to develop
- 11:35and support their learning as educators.
- 11:38And so success for us will be that
- 11:41we are able to really,
- 11:43meet the needs of our faculty as educators,
- 11:44and continue their own faculty as educators, and
- 11:47continue their own professional development, which will be,
- 11:49you know, a truly concerted effort. But in,
- 11:51you know, 2,
- 11:533, 4
- 11:55years, success will look like, you know, having
- 11:58additional
- 12:01medical students. We may even grow the class,
- 12:04that we have faculty that are very satisfied
- 12:07and engaged in the learning process,
- 12:10and we have our 1st graduates
- 12:12that become community based and serve,
- 12:15the patients within,
- 12:17our area here,
- 12:19in New England.
- 12:22I'm also wondering,
- 12:25over the past 12 months,
- 12:27what do you think has been the biggest
- 12:29obstacle
- 12:30you and your team have had to overcome
- 12:32while creating this school?
- 12:35Mhmm.
- 12:36So, I think there's been many, challenges, many
- 12:39headwinds that I think in general health care
- 12:41has been facing.
- 12:42I think specifically
- 12:57And practitioners, and the PAs,
- 12:59as well as our nurses and staff,
- 13:01you know, we're still stabilizing
- 13:04from the pandemic.
- 13:05And so I think that has been an
- 13:07ongoing challenge,
- 13:09and the reality that we
- 13:15pipeline
- 13:16programs
- 13:18and connecting into community colleges
- 13:20and others.
- 13:21I also think that the reality is that,
- 13:25you know, the cost of health care,
- 13:27is one that we face every day.
- 13:30And so, as we go forward, we're always
- 13:33thinking about how to be more efficient, how
- 13:35to be thoughtful with the resources
- 13:37that are pretty scarce in health care,
- 13:41and so that we can provide really safe
- 13:43care for patients and excellent experience for our
- 13:45providers.
- 13:47That is an ongoing challenge and one that
- 13:50I don't think is going to be
- 13:53relieved,
- 13:54or,
- 13:55easily addressed in the short term.
- 13:58My last question, since we're coming up on
- 14:01time, is regarding the, physician workforce issues
- 14:06or,
- 14:07even just building a medical school in response?
- 14:10What would be your number one recommendation
- 14:12or takeaway based on the conversation we've had
- 14:15today for our listeners?
- 14:18You know, I think that,
- 14:20having now been in healthcare for many decades
- 14:23and having faced different challenges,
- 14:26I think that what we are able to
- 14:27do and have impact on relative to being
- 14:27a physician or a healthcare provider, is that
- 14:39noble and I think very,
- 14:41important
- 14:42role in our community.
- 14:44My advice would be to stick with it
- 14:46for those that are within the healthcare domain
- 14:49and the providers
- 14:50and that through our sheer,
- 14:54perseverance,
- 14:56insight, and even innovation
- 14:58that we will continue to really provide a
- 15:01sustainable
- 15:03and hopefully equitable,
- 15:05healthcare environment.
- 15:06And so, there is a need for perseverance.
- 15:09There is a need for patients. And I
- 15:11do think that I would,
- 15:13in every instance,
- 15:15recommend
- 15:16that healthcare truly is a terrific place to
- 15:19work and grow and learn.
- 15:22And we need to have patience
- 15:24and some perseverance.
- 15:27And I'll definitely take, perseverance for those last
- 15:30few, finishing touches next 2 weeks, and I'm
- 15:33really, you know, excited to see,
- 15:36what happens with the medical school and all
- 15:39the great successes they'll come through.
- 15:41We are at time. Thank you so much
- 15:44for letting me meet today, doctor, Moffat Bruce.
- 15:48If you wanna hear more,
- 15:50from from doctor Moffat Bruce about this project
- 15:54and other priorities. She is speaking at our
- 15:56upcoming clinical leadership forum at the Becker's CEO
- 16:00and CFO roundtable, which is taking place November
- 16:0311th through 14th,
- 16:04Chicago. We have limited space available
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- 16:09today, contact us to learn more. And I
- 16:12just wanna say thank you again, doctor Mafa
- 16:13Bruce, for your time.
- 16:16You're very welcome. Thank you for the opportunity.