Latest / Simply Bitcoin / The Bitcoin Price that Miners Capitulate: REVEALED | EP 535
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- 0:04Welcome to another episode of Simply Bitcoin where we cover
- 0:07everything Bitcoin, the news, the catastrophic fails by the
- 0:11central Bankers, the shit coiners, Bitcoin culture, the
- 0:13memes, everything today we have a very special guest.
- 0:17We have Gooseman beat those. He is El Presidente of hash rate
- 0:21at Luxor Tech Team or the Luxor mining pool.
- 0:24Like a lot of you people know, anyways, are you doing Guzman?
- 0:28And we do all that. It's for the invite again.
- 0:31Super happy to be here. We're super to have you back mr.
- 0:34But I sent a anyways, Opti, it's time.
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- 1:00Is it not all dot-eu at the time of this recording the Bitcoin
- 1:02price is at twenty two thousand nine hundred and twenty-five
- 1:05dollars. A SATs per dollar also known as
- 1:07Moscow time 4360 to bitcoin held in corporate treasuries 1
- 1:13million six hundred and sixty thousand Bitcoin block height
- 1:16740 5924 the amount of reachable Bitcoin nodes it's down fourteen
- 1:22thousand. Eight hundred and thirty eight
- 1:24percentage of Bitcoin issued 90 point 95 percent blocks to The
- 1:28Happening 94 Thousands of 76 having estimate that day.
- 1:33Could not come, any sooner, April 18th, 2024 block, subsidy
- 1:38value 143 thousand dollars and the block subsidy 6.25 for
- 1:45anyone who doesn't know, on April estimated because that's
- 1:48not a hard date around. Around April 18, 20 24, the
- 1:52block subsidy will be cut in half, so it's another day in the
- 1:56numbers but today I got something special for us.
- 2:00Bit of an update on the crypto bill that was introduced by the
- 2:05Bitcoin Senator also known as Senators.
- 2:07Cynthia lummis, ants because it was a bipartisan Bill senator
- 2:11gillibrand. Who is a Democrat?
- 2:13So it's good to see a Republican, senator Cynthia
- 2:16lummis, and a Democrat, Senator gillibrand work together on this
- 2:20crypto Bill. Anyways, hey, every time I use
- 2:23the word crypto, I feel like my tongue turns on fire.
- 2:26Anyways, let's check out what they have to say.
- 2:29Chris, how that Is impacted your views of your legislation.
- 2:33Do you feel like there are any changes that need to be made?
- 2:35And also, how has that impacted the conversations that you're
- 2:38having with other lawmakers? Do you feel like there's more
- 2:40urgency to do something now? I think.
- 2:44Yeah, I think we both do. Go ahead Thurston.
- 2:47So, most of my colleagues were fairly alarmed with the
- 2:52different Market impacts over the last couple of months, and
- 2:57they the number one question is, does this regulation?
- 3:00Either prevent that or improve transparency and accountability,
- 3:03does it improve safety? And soundness, is that improve
- 3:07consumer protections and obviously the answer is, yes,
- 3:09that's why we wrote the Bill. And so, there's additional
- 3:13interest now because they've seen that this is something
- 3:16that's important to do. That, consumers are not being
- 3:19protected today. There's no oversight and
- 3:22accountability, and their no rules of the road.
- 3:25And so there's more urgency now and also more of Sense.
- 3:30That this is something we need to do, and it's art, its timely
- 3:34awesome. So what Senator gillibrand was
- 3:37referring to, and the reason that the reporter asked that
- 3:40question is, because of the market downturn.
- 3:43Remember, and the traditional markets, right?
- 3:45There's a lot of red tape, right?
- 3:47There's a lot of regulations to protect investors right in the
- 3:51stock market. If the stock market has a
- 3:53certain amount of volatility, there's a switch, you know, and
- 3:57then the trading just stops or slows down.
- 3:59And right in, you know, if you compare that to the crypto
- 4:02markets in the Bitcoin Market, there's nothing, it's 24/7 all
- 4:05the time, right? And of course, look at what
- 4:08happened with three arrows Capital look at what happened
- 4:11with Celsius, look at what happened with block fight,
- 4:13right? So many investors got absolutely
- 4:16destroyed with the Celsius debacle so that's why it's
- 4:21another if this which I'm not a big fan of this crypto bill,
- 4:25right? I love the free market but if it
- 4:27was introduced right, I think a lot of Of more people would be
- 4:31protected. May be mandatory reserve
- 4:34requirements. Perhaps, you know, would have
- 4:36saved investors a little bit of money.
- 4:37So anyways, I thought it was interesting.
- 4:40There's an update. At least there's a silver lining
- 4:42in this, you know, destruction that we've seen the last month.
- 4:46Maybe this will motivate enough Senators to pass this thing.
- 4:50And bypassing this thing that would give bigger companies and
- 4:54institutions that are concerned that Bitcoin is a gray area more
- 4:59confidence. To perhaps put some of their
- 5:01cash reserves in Bitcoin. Anyways, Goose man.
- 5:04What are your thoughts on this brother?
- 5:07I mean there's a lot going on there from the veil too much.
- 5:12I haven't been following a lot but like, but definitely didn't
- 5:15seem quite a reason like Liquidation in the market, like
- 5:19Celsius throughout the capital, that's why are there as well.
- 5:23Like, I think the greatest protection of all this people
- 5:26should hold their own Bitcoin, they shouldn't be giving their
- 5:30Bitcoin to like third parties to essentially implement the
- 5:34traditional like trout fly. Fractional banking system in
- 5:39their own corporations. I think that's kind of the deal
- 5:42team at protection for users in my in my opinion.
- 5:47Absolutely. That.
- 5:48That is the answer of a Bitcoin. ER, I don't give a fuck, but if
- 5:51you take self custody, this won't bother you.
- 5:54Love it. Anyways Opti.
- 5:55What are your thoughts brother? Well, I'm going to Echo what
- 5:59Guzman said, but also I'm just skeptical of politicians in
- 6:04general. So I'll hold my Opinion till I
- 6:08see what the final bill looks like.
- 6:11But I have been noticing the push not only in America but
- 6:15worldwide for quick regulation and the additional interest of
- 6:20how she's saying and the more urgency memes of that, they need
- 6:24to do this now. So hence why I'm just a little
- 6:27skeptical because the more urgent, they feel they need to
- 6:30push these bills, the quicker, they'll push them through and
- 6:33the less we'll know what's in them.
- 6:35So I'm just To go and we'll see what happened because there is a
- 6:39global push for regulating crypto shit coin, stable coins
- 6:43and Bitcoin and we don't want Bitcoin lumped up in all this
- 6:46stuff it gets rush through so who knows I'm skeptical but hey,
- 6:50I'm with Guzman, I'm a pleb. It doesn't matter.
- 6:52Just stack SATs and chill. Absolutely.
- 6:55Absolutely, if you just stay humble stack SATs, you only
- 6:59stack Bitcoin because Opti what is the second best?
- 7:03The reason our second best exactly.
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- 7:27Crypto. Cloaks.com this is pretty crazy,
- 7:30justice department, arrest coinbase, man.
- 7:33Jur for insider trading. So a couple of things here,
- 7:37right? Of course, this was going to
- 7:39happen, right? Via the incentives are too
- 7:41strong, and essentially what happens in.
- 7:43I know a lot of the shit coin exchanges were doing this
- 7:45before, is the people that work inside the shit coin exchange.
- 7:49Know what coins are going to be listed, right?
- 7:52So the incentive to kind of front room, that is so big.
- 7:55Now I always say that the shit coin system is very similar to
- 8:01the Fiat system, right? Right, the things that happen in
- 8:04the Fiat system are happening in the shit coin system.
- 8:08But it's funny because there's a double standard in terms of
- 8:10rules. I'll get to that.
- 8:12Let me cover this first and I'll tell you why, I believe Bitcoins
- 8:16different. Anyways, Sean, why a former
- 8:19product manager for the publicly traded crypto currency exchange.
- 8:22Coinbase was arrested this morning for an insider trading
- 8:25scheme, during his time with coinbase.
- 8:28Isan worked in conjunction with his brother Niko wahi and Samir
- 8:32right. Me to commit fraud, conspiracy
- 8:35and wire fraud in connection with a scheme to commit insider
- 8:39trading in crypto currency assets by using.
- 8:41Confidential coin based information about what crypto
- 8:43assets were scheduled to be listed on coin basis exchanges,
- 8:47according to the release, today's charges are a further.
- 8:50Reminder that web 3 is not a law free zone.
- 8:53Just last month, I announced the first-ever insider trading case
- 8:56involving n FTS today. I announce that the first ever
- 8:59insider trading case involving crypto currency markets.
- 9:03Our message with these charges is clear.
- 9:05Fraud is fraud. Fraud is fraud, is fraud whether
- 9:09it occurs on the blockchain or on Wall Street.
- 9:12Well what about in Washington? Right?
- 9:15What about in Washington is okay, blockchain Wall Street.
- 9:19Well let's talk about Washington, shall we?
- 9:21This is Nancy Pelosi V. Best traitor that has ever
- 9:25graced planet Earth and this reporter that will soon be found
- 9:30dead by Suicide Astor. Question.
- 9:34Let's see what Nancy Pelosi has to say.
- 9:37We have to go now one more he said yes sir.
- 9:48What do you say? No.
- 10:01Okay, but hey, it's not only the speaker of the house.
- 10:06It's also the fat a reputation of this happened.
- 10:09January 10, 20 22, a reputational crisis at the
- 10:11Federal Reserve has led to the resignation of two senior
- 10:14officials. Within the central bank, raising
- 10:16questions about the strength of the feds guardrails around
- 10:18personal financial interest in September 20, 21 media reports,
- 10:22highlighted several large Financial Carried out by Dallas
- 10:26fed president, Robert Kaplan, and Boston fed president Eric
- 10:29Rosen. Grin during 2020, as the heads
- 10:32of two of the FED networks 12 Reserve Banks.
- 10:35Both were instrumental in engineering.
- 10:37The feds response to the financial Fallout from the
- 10:40covid-19 pandemic, Rosenberg and Kaplan would promise not to do
- 10:44any more trading during their tennis sure as senior fed
- 10:48officials. But later announced early,
- 10:50retirements as the public Fallout expanded.
- 10:52Remember rules for thee. But not for me.
- 10:56Anyways this is what they did fed Vice chairman, Robert
- 10:59Keller. That would also likely catch
- 11:01scrutiny for rotating millions of dollars, out of bonds out of
- 11:06bond fund, and into stock funds and February. 20 2008 right
- 11:10before the FED started slashing interest rates.
- 11:14That is the literal, fucking definition of insider trading.
- 11:18So a couple things here, two things that I want you guys to
- 11:20pay attention when the government does it.
- 11:24It's okay, they could resign. When so when you citizen does
- 11:30it, you go to jail. That's number one.
- 11:33Number two is this doesn't happen in Bitcoin.
- 11:36There is no Insider and big boy. When sailor started buying
- 11:41Bitcoin, he had to get in line like everybody else and the way
- 11:44that he would buy Bitcoin because he was trying to buy
- 11:46such a big amount, is he had to slowly go inside.
- 11:51And obviously, he didn't time the market very well because He
- 11:54would have waited to buy all that Bitcoin, when Bitcoin knows
- 11:56that 20K, he was buying Bitcoins Bitcoin was at all time high.
- 12:00So it was that, right? So yeah, man and Bitcoin,
- 12:03everyone's equal there is no special and the Fiat and shit
- 12:06coin world. There's insider trading there's
- 12:08Elites, you know, there's the devs.
- 12:10There's the Kings right? And Bitcoin changes that, right?
- 12:14So, but the thing that really, really pisses me off.
- 12:20That's the clothes. Did you ever inside?
- 12:21No course not, just move the mic.
- 12:23No, no follow-up questions. You're going to Suicide yourself
- 12:26and then of course the FED literally putting money in the
- 12:30stocks that they know we're going to benefit from the
- 12:32injection of liquidity due to the pandemic response.
- 12:36Anyways Goose man, what are your thoughts?
- 12:40I agree do it on the, there's Nick knows how to train people
- 12:44point but there is an ancient coins.
- 12:47And I think the main reason for that is the consensus algorithm
- 12:50that we have in Bitcoin compared to some of the shit coins.
- 12:54Like if you look like a theorem, for example, they're like really
- 12:58pushing to go proof of stake. Prove mistake, essentially give
- 13:01more power to the sale or so of the theory until ones that are
- 13:06like holding the most coins, right?
- 13:09Plus they're the ones that are like holding just a tiny bit of
- 13:12Suds. There's actually losing to them,
- 13:14they're like losing power on the Chain.
- 13:15They don't have any rights in. How many built-in power in
- 13:18Bitcoin that doesn't happen. Sailor or a player like myself,
- 13:22we both have the same priority in the network.
- 13:25He doesn't have like any advantage over me within the
- 13:28like, Bitcoin ecosystem, right? So just Bitcoin by Design, just
- 13:33by the nature of it's like, on sense of mechanism which is like
- 13:36proof-of-work, prevents like any sort.
- 13:39Sort of like Insider or like whale Advantage, you can call it
- 13:44absolutely Opti. What are your thoughts brother?
- 13:47Well, first up, shut up. Pelosi the greatest.
- 13:50Traitor of Our Generation, follow her trade, you'll make
- 13:54thing games. And anyways, just onto the
- 13:57coinbase stuff. It's just shit coiners doing
- 13:59shit, coin things and I had a moment.
- 14:02Why you were talking about that? Where I almost had slight PTSD
- 14:06from my Noob days in 2017. All the front running in the icy
- 14:11ocean coin markets. And it's just a new cycle with
- 14:16scammers doing the same thing rules for the not for me.
- 14:21Create a shit coin, pump and dump it.
- 14:23Make your gains and make way like a fat rat guys.
- 14:26This is what shit Corners do. And now you have proof that they
- 14:30do it. So don't let the shit Corners
- 14:32lie to you. Call out the shit Corner Stacks
- 14:34at stay. Humble.
- 14:35Bitcoin is the way. Absolutely.
- 14:37Now what I wanted to get to today and I want to take
- 14:40advantage of the fact that Gooseman is on here.
- 14:42Goes funds going to give us a little update about what's going
- 14:44on in the mining world. Let's put a little bit of the
- 14:47hash rate, right? Looks like we made it all time
- 14:50out. Of course guys.
- 14:51I just want to let you know that the Bitcoin hash rate there.
- 14:53It's always an estimation every site is different.
- 14:56There is no there is no actual Bitcoin hash rate everyone
- 15:00estimates. It differently based on block
- 15:03time. So according to coin wars.com
- 15:06right hash rate really pee. In June 7th to 9th.
- 15:13Now it's obviously going a little bit on the client makes
- 15:15sense to price of Bitcoin goes down.
- 15:17But I think this Bloomberg article which we covered when it
- 15:19came out, really describes the situation a little bit more,
- 15:24almost four billion dollars in Bitcoin.
- 15:26Mining loans are coming under stress.
- 15:30It's from June 24th. The, the prolonged slump in
- 15:32Bitcoin is making it more difficult for some miners, to
- 15:35repay, the up to 4 billion loans, they have backed by their
- 15:38equipment. Posing a potential risk to Major
- 15:41crypto lenders, a growing number of loans are now under water.
- 15:43According to analysts, as many of the mining rigs lenders,
- 15:46accept it as collateral. I've now have done value along
- 15:48with the price of the world's largest digital token.
- 15:51Few miners have defaulted on their loans, so far, but recent
- 15:53sales are showing signs of distress.
- 15:55Course scientific sold more than 2,000 Bitcoin and may to help
- 15:58cover potential, operational losses.
- 16:00Meanwhile bit Farms offloaded, nearly half of its mind tokens
- 16:04earlier this month to pay down part of its hundred million
- 16:06dollar loan with Galaxy digital Holdings.
- 16:09It Also take out another machine back loan from New York, digital
- 16:12Investment Group LLC. If the market doesn't improve
- 16:15analysts warn, it could be an ugly scenario selling Bitcoin
- 16:19reserves puts further pressure on prices and the cost of
- 16:22equipment could fall even lower. If lender, if lenders looking to
- 16:25recoup their losses, on defaults, start liquidating
- 16:28machines, they repossess the value of b means.
- 16:31Popular, s19 mining rig is down. 47%, from a high of roughly
- 16:3610,000 in November, according to data from Luxor Technologies
- 16:40Court Gooseman that's you. So yeah, Gooseman now that I
- 16:46kind of give the preface for everybody what's going on in
- 16:49mining? I know I called you earlier on
- 16:52this month. I called you and I spoke to you
- 16:54and Ethan I spoke to other people and yeah I've been
- 16:57looking for any distress Mighty operations if you know, send me
- 17:02a DM. So what's going on in mining?
- 17:04We know that miners have been cut in half and value.
- 17:07We know that the hash rate took a little Bit of a tumble.
- 17:10And I told this to Ethan when I was texting him, dude, I can't
- 17:15believe people lent these miners money and took the Bitcoin
- 17:19miners as collateral. Obviously, the value of that
- 17:22collateral would go down with the price of Bitcoin.
- 17:25What were they thinking? Yeah, so I guess your things are
- 17:30going on right now in the mining space.
- 17:33The first one is there's this summer, right?
- 17:36He's definitely affecting a lot of operations.
- 17:39Especially the ones that are like running, like are called
- 17:42in, like, in Texas, for example, right?
- 17:45Like he did state in like a huge tax on this.
- 17:48Like, are called mining operations alongside like
- 17:52higher, like Energy prices, right?
- 17:54Like we know right now across the world has been like really
- 17:57bad energy policies coming over the last like few select decades
- 18:02even and that's resulting like really, really high energy
- 18:04prices that compared to curtailment.
- 18:07It's making the the my It says he shut down for a few hours a
- 18:10day, that's what it's like. It's actually leading into like,
- 18:13like don't lower heart rate of, you're showing that charts
- 18:16before and then in regards to like loans, being like
- 18:19underwater essentially, what's happening, right now, it's sort
- 18:22of like - are not profitable, or they are having like a crash
- 18:26like a cash crunch. Why is that the profitability of
- 18:29these miners essentially went down to, like 36 months give or
- 18:33take essentially, if you, why is my team right now?
- 18:36We'd like some like, decent power rate, you're get that
- 18:39money back in like three years. However, most of these miners
- 18:43their loans were like 12 18 or 24 hour or two like 24 months
- 18:49like loans. So when he's essentially you
- 18:51need to pay back your minor in 1812 or like 24 months, so the
- 18:57mines are still profitable. But the amount of money Revenue
- 19:00that they're generating is not enough to cover for both the
- 19:05principal and interest on the loans, they have to pay like
- 19:08month after month. That's why they're essentially
- 19:11either having to go into the treasury, sell their Bitcoin
- 19:16order to pay at the financiers or essentially liquidate their
- 19:19equipment. So, what we are seeing right
- 19:21now, it's like leaving the insurance of minors that are not
- 19:23like they're having like a cash-flow crunch rather than
- 19:26they are not like profitable yet.
- 19:29Gotcha, okay, but hold on. Guzman.
- 19:32So it's not necessarily that, you know, that they're in
- 19:36trouble. It's just that they need the the
- 19:38liquidity to Pay off, loans and power and all that stuff.
- 19:41Correct. So when I talk to you, one of
- 19:44the methods that they were trying to fix that with was by
- 19:47selling a bunch of s naught or sorry-ass 19's.
- 19:51And then that obviously has brought down the price of the
- 19:53minor, but don't you think that this will just lead to a spiral
- 19:59right with all this cell pressure and then on top one,
- 20:01last question, right? Is, if we do continue to see
- 20:05downward pressure on the price of Bitcoin and we go below The
- 20:09low of 17 8, I think 17 8K. What happens then?
- 20:15Very interesting question. I think minors can still barely
- 20:20be more like pain. I think there's still room for
- 20:23minors in the u.s. to YouTube early more pain.
- 20:25Before we start like seeing like massive liquidations across the
- 20:28entire like mining landscape but like something really, really
- 20:32interesting in the mining markets essentially shows what
- 20:35we were talking here. Just right before is that
- 20:39Usually in the mining Market say six are like much cheaper in
- 20:43China. There's usually like a premium
- 20:44to buy the A6 in the u.s. right now.
- 20:46The has essentially become the opposite to node Basics are
- 20:50cheaper in the u.s. because there's miners to have all of
- 20:53these a six in hand. And they need to like, get rid
- 20:55of them. Or maybe it's because Chinese
- 20:59miners there like more optimistic in like this like
- 21:01bitcoin price right now. But there's something really,
- 21:04really interesting that we have Luxor running our, like, trading
- 21:08desk, basic Trading, Best. We've been saying this for a
- 21:11couple weeks now. But yeah, I mean this like shows
- 21:15how there's like more liquidy pressure for this u.s. miners
- 21:19Dodger. Very interesting Opti you want
- 21:21to chime in. Well, mining is not my forte
- 21:25guys, but we did get a difficulty adjustment today of
- 21:295% and it's the third one we've had consecutively.
- 21:33And while to the uninitiated that might seem bearish, it's We
- 21:39bullish because Bitcoin is working as it's supposed to
- 21:42blocks are still coming in. So, this is just the name of the
- 21:46game, guys, you know, if you get over, if you do, if you're not
- 21:49an efficient minor, you get pushed out of the network.
- 21:52It's a feature. Not a bug.
- 21:53Yeah, absolutely. So Gooseman one, last question
- 21:56will move on to the fail. Is, what is the bare minimum
- 22:01price? Of course, it's always an
- 22:02estimation that the Bitcoin price could go down before
- 22:07miners start to Picture late. That's a great question.
- 22:13I usually don't like to sit in there.
- 22:15Select bitcoin price wind up like hash price.
- 22:18Hash based meaning the revenue that like a minor generates, I
- 22:22think right now, the floor for hash passes around like, six
- 22:26cents per trash, which essentially means that like a
- 22:28nest, 19, one of these like new generation miners will be making
- 22:32like around six thousand dollars a day and that will happen if
- 22:37like Bitcoin drops to like 15 14k.
- 22:41You'll take the thing. Like if we go there there's
- 22:43going to be a bunch of minors, like the entire like s17 and 20s
- 22:47like series, miners are going to get like fully wiped out right
- 22:50now. There are kind of like still
- 22:52somewhat profitable especially with these like that with the
- 22:54adjustment but it's going to increase the revenue by 5% or
- 22:58the next few weeks. But yeah if we if we see a
- 23:01little more like bitcoin price movement towards to continue to
- 23:06like follow that drop a little more, the entire kind of like me
- 23:09generation miners are going to Be flash sound from from line
- 23:13space. Thank you.
- 23:14Now, I know when to hit you up again.
- 23:16For distress quality. But yeah, that number is
- 23:21definitely, definitely something that you guys want to keep an
- 23:25eye on. Let's see what happens if what
- 23:28goes on was talking about earlier.
- 23:30You're staying humble, you're stacking SATs.
- 23:32You're sending out to Cold Storage.
- 23:34None of this affects you, which is what we advocate for on the
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- 25:12said tldr Can't beat them. Join them and my buddy Tucson
- 25:16goes. It's really if you can't beat
- 25:18them launch of shit coin. So as I said, that's a quick
- 25:22one. I you got to just point it out
- 25:25that look. They understand what's going on.
- 25:28They're going to try to co-op The Narrative and push their own
- 25:32shit coin. And furthermore as you guys know
- 25:36the we've has ties with youth and so other people were
- 25:39mentioning on that tweet. It's not that they're going to
- 25:43join us is that they're going to push their shit coin project of
- 25:49favor which is eith anyways Nico Guzman any thoughts or we can
- 25:53move on quickly? Yeah I mean it's what it's
- 25:56always the signal with that is you know, World economic Forum
- 26:01or you know, governments is that they just pretend, Bitcoin
- 26:04doesn't exist. It's like Bitcoin doesn't exist.
- 26:07But we're going to create something that does something
- 26:10that Bitcoin does. But we're To be able to
- 26:12debasement and we're going to be able to control it, but it's
- 26:16still the same. So you know that's the signal
- 26:19that's that's what you guys should really.
- 26:21Pay attention to is the fact that Bitcoin exist Bitcoin
- 26:24solves these problems. Bitcoin is the most inclusive
- 26:27money, the world has ever seen, but it doesn't matter to them
- 26:30because they were never about helping the unbanked or helping
- 26:33people that lack to the access to the financial system.
- 26:36They are always about more power and more control.
- 26:38But anyways, maybe that's the the the Bitcoin Paranoia getting
- 26:43to me. Goose Pond.
- 26:44What are your thoughts? Well, I don't have too much else
- 26:46about to be honest. I've seen the key point that you
- 26:49highlighted, he's like control they don't have a control over
- 26:52Bitcoin and therefore they need to come up with like other ways,
- 26:55which they don't lose control over their current status quo,
- 26:58right? So like, Bitcoin essentially
- 27:00goes against what they are trying to do here, right?
- 27:04So yeah, I think yeah, if the world economic forum is losing
- 27:09control, they are losing power and therefore we are like
- 27:11debate. Them.
- 27:12But absolutely 100% spot on Opti what is the next failure?
- 27:17And the next one you already know what it's going to be guys.
- 27:21It's Tesla. Tesla was in the news for
- 27:24dumping their Bitcoin paper hands Tesla in the news.
- 27:28Anyways Tesla sells 936 million dollars in Bitcoin in the second
- 27:34quarter which happens to be about 75% of their Holdings
- 27:40guys. And It's really interesting, The
- 27:44Narrative that they took in response to bitcoin.
- 27:47As you see during a presentation on Wednesday, Tesla.
- 27:50CEO Elon Musk said he would be open to increasing Bitcoin
- 27:54Holdings in the future. But he also explained that he
- 27:57decided to sell 75 percent of his Holdings because and I
- 28:00quote, he was concerned with liquidity due to covid shutdowns
- 28:04in China and that the move should not be seen as a verdict
- 28:08on bitcoin. So, of course, No, he bought 1.5
- 28:14billion and February 8th 2021. So we are going to dunk on him
- 28:19as being a bad Trader because guys we tell you all the time
- 28:24acts at and chill, you do not need to trade your Bitcoin, do
- 28:28not get shaken out of your position, but I did the numbers
- 28:32and you can see right here on the screen that Tesla held that
- 28:3675% of Bitcoin for a five hundred twenty seven days for
- 28:39roughly a negative fifty percent loss.
- 28:42So what price did they bite at? Well didn't I didn't exactly get
- 28:47the real price it's more on the date so that's why I said
- 28:50roughly 50% loss on those buys. I know the math might not be
- 28:55exactly lined up but if you do the math from the day they
- 28:58announced it to the day, they sold it.
- 29:02It's roughly a 50% so I'm looking at it right here.
- 29:05So Tessa first bought 1.5 billion dollars worth of bitcoin
- 29:10and around your right around January, it's February 8 for 30,
- 29:142002, 33,000, so it's like a 33 percent loss.
- 29:19Roughly hottel Bitcoin, guys, do not trade anyways.
- 29:24I got these other tweets on Twitter which makes our Point
- 29:28even more clear. So Tesla.
- 29:30So 75% of it's big Going to meet to quarter to expectations.
- 29:35You should take this as deeply bearish in Tesla.
- 29:37This is a for sale, in the epitome of Fiat prioritization
- 29:41in the short term. And I really like how you said
- 29:43this complaining, how fast one can spray it with how many miles
- 29:46one can endure. So, to break this down, I saw
- 29:49this other tweet by safe teen and he's quoting this tweet.
- 29:54And he goes the cash flow statement from Tesla show that
- 29:58they had to sell that BTC to make sure that They weren't cash
- 30:03flow - guys. So if you don't have a positive
- 30:07cash flow as safety and says, Bitcoin might not be for you.
- 30:10You're likely going to have to sell your Bitcoin at the worst
- 30:13times. Yep.
- 30:14And this is the point where we talked about yesterday about
- 30:18Tesla or Elon can cry harder about CO2, ruining the weather
- 30:22to get more Fiat subsidies because we saw this, we know
- 30:26this. Remember when Elon Musk said
- 30:28that he would come back into the Bitcoin Market.
- 30:31Once there was a confirmation Reasonable clean, energy, use
- 30:34roughly 15% are 50%, excuse me. And as Nico showed you guys
- 30:39yesterday, the Bitcoin, mining Council release their survey,
- 30:42which showed exactly this that the Bitcoin industry sustainable
- 30:47electricity makes Is over 50% guys.
- 30:51So what is going on? Ilan, are you telling us one
- 30:55thing and doing another thing? Are you, you know, just the the
- 31:00clown on Twitter that is all schadenfraude that is all just
- 31:04pump and nothing or are you actually a Bitcoin?
- 31:09ER, we don't know but what can we take from this?
- 31:12Like we said guys, Tesla needed to sell their Bitcoin to be
- 31:15cash. Flow positive.
- 31:17And we tell you guys all the time you want.
- 31:20Make sure you have Fiat coming in because you do not want to
- 31:22sell your Bitcoin or else you're going to get Dunked On by toxic
- 31:26Bitcoin maximalist on Twitter. Anyway, Nico Guzman, what are
- 31:30you thinking, dude? Wow, Ilan, absolutely wrecked.
- 31:36Yeah, he wanted to keep, you know, he's a public company so
- 31:39he wanted to keep you know, he wanted to stay in the black and
- 31:43you know, he saw Bitcoin as, you know, as a way to do that and he
- 31:46sold it. I think, I think say, 15 had a
- 31:49Great observation. In terms of yeah you might get
- 31:52wrecked. If you don't, if you're not cash
- 31:54flow positive, you're holding Bitcoin because you're going to
- 31:56have to sell it, right? But yeah man, I just doesn't
- 32:00surprise me. I've never really got from Elan
- 32:03that he's understood Bitcoin, right?
- 32:05I remember when he did that podcast with Jack Jack Dorsey
- 32:10and I forget I think it was Katie Arc.
- 32:17Hmm. Forget.
- 32:20Anyways while I look up her name, Goose mom, what are your
- 32:23thoughts on this? Again, I don't really give a
- 32:27fuck with the keys of that, to be honest, I mean, if they
- 32:33needed money or like operation expensing Tesla, just go and
- 32:36sell your Bitcoin like - are doing the same right now.
- 32:39They need operation fancy go and southern Europe, coin meaning,
- 32:43if they truly believe in Bitcoin that they're going to buy more
- 32:46if they don't, they're pretty good to create the rest of the
- 32:48position. Beacon doesn't matter.
- 32:51At the end of the day, I'll let you do anything so yeah.
- 32:55I mean I like the fact that they are like used to bitcoin.
- 32:58I like, I mean, I'm molding for holding, but like if you want to
- 33:02develop a like a good economy, first, we need to be comfortable
- 33:07with relaxed, like saving or like long-term wealth
- 33:10preservation, and then also be able to, like, spend Bitcoin and
- 33:13like day-to-day expenses and also use the lightning Network
- 33:16and we're not. So if they're using their
- 33:19Bitcoin, you know, to maintain their, their factories going and
- 33:23keep employing people, so they don't.
- 33:25Have the gospel - month I'm running for that but like
- 33:28besides that I have like it really, no strong opinion.
- 33:31Anyway, can I jump in here real quick?
- 33:33And he's been reminded me of something.
- 33:35Remember when Elon musk's went on Twitter and was telling us,
- 33:39he is selling 10% of his Bitcoin to ensure that the market was
- 33:43Liquid enough for them to sell their Bitcoin.
- 33:45Well, here we are. And it might have been the other
- 33:48way around that they were just making sure that they could sell
- 33:51these acids quickly because they are going to need the liquidity.
- 33:55So They don't get wrecked as a company.
- 33:57Amazing. Absolutely.
- 33:59And by the way, the lady that I was referring to who is on the
- 34:02call with Ilan and Jack. Dorsey was Kathy, would she is
- 34:06the CEO of Arc, invest Arc investment anyways.
- 34:11They also have a big allocation Bitcoin as well.
- 34:15So, yeah, he Lon totally wrecked and I agree with you Goose mine.
- 34:20And there's actually, you see, two types of people on bitcoin
- 34:23Twitter, which, you know, the hardcore Or hot Oilers are like
- 34:26never sell your Bitcoin and I've been on a Bitcoin standard for a
- 34:31while now I use Bitcoin to transact all the time, right?
- 34:35So in that infers you're selling it or you're you know you're
- 34:38you're exchanging it for good or service.
- 34:41So yeah man, I mean, I don't know, I guess, I guess look
- 34:46Bitcoin is different to different people.
- 34:48Anyways opted, you have another fail.
- 34:51Yes, sir. I do have another fail over
- 34:54here. I saw this yesterday night and
- 34:58they'll go had Blackrock in the news for a minute.
- 35:01You guys covered this a long time ago, but as you see, black
- 35:05rock is breaking the wrong, kind of record.
- 35:08So the news came out yesterday that BlackRock the largest asset
- 35:13manager in the world has lost an unprecedented one point seven
- 35:17trillion dollar in the first six months of this year.
- 35:21These guys are one of the biggest country, if not actually
- 35:26the biggest company they have 10 trillion dollars of assets under
- 35:30their control. But it's really interesting.
- 35:33There's a quote in here about inflation.
- 35:36If I can find it real quick and Larry Fink is telling,
- 35:41essentially, his investors that they should be concerned about
- 35:45inflation. Rising here, it is.
- 35:47The challenges associated with high inflation, to Rising
- 35:50interest rates are Few more first time Bond ETF users and
- 35:53prompting existing investors to find new ways to use ETS in
- 35:56their portfolio. So that maybe some noise in your
- 35:58opinion, but I find it interesting that two people that
- 36:04are in his company, he has concerned for inflation, but
- 36:07then he goes on public media public stations and starts.
- 36:11Telling people tell you investors that you don't need to
- 36:15be concerned with inflation because it's going to be
- 36:18alright, a real and this is Honestly guys this is me
- 36:23speculating but you know I just talked about Tesla a minute ago.
- 36:28This is conjecture but how is this quote, right here in this
- 36:33article this is a really famous person called me up, panicking,
- 36:37what should I do? I've got to get out, I can't
- 36:39stand it, I can't stand it. And Larry Fink ozai, you need to
- 36:43go on vacation. Inflation is a concern and if
- 36:47you really can't stand it then, sell it, Whatever It Is, who
- 36:50knows. Talking about, but the reality
- 36:53is we've seen this inflation is going to be fixed over time and
- 36:58he pointed to Falling commodity prices of a sign of inflation of
- 37:02the I'm almost positive. Nico did have we not covered the
- 37:05numbers and commodities prices have gone up.
- 37:08Yeah, I mean, dude, look, this guy basically owns the world, I
- 37:15would say own the world, but he would, he manages the money that
- 37:19basically owns the world BlackRock and Vanguard basically
- 37:25own everything. If you look at every major
- 37:27corporation in the in the Fortune 500, Vanguard and
- 37:32BlackRock have a huge stake in that company doesn't matter if
- 37:35it's Apple, you know whatever big company that you could think
- 37:39of Microsoft BlackRock and Vanguard own it.
- 37:43So that guy is just so disconnected from reality.
- 37:46I just I could give a flying fuck what he has to say.
- 37:49That's my opinion. On before we go to Guzman, I
- 37:54think there's some more signal that Larry Fink is just
- 37:56spreading out everywhere and he goes, even if the u.s. is in a
- 38:00recession, it's likely to be mild and there's no need to
- 38:03panic over fixable inflation. So again guys, like Nico just
- 38:09said, Larry Fink is, so detached from reality that he can say.
- 38:15On the one hand that there's no problem with inflation, on the
- 38:17other hand, there might be problems with inflation and then
- 38:20on the The one hand, oh, we might be in a recession but it's
- 38:24only going to be a mild recession and then you look at
- 38:26the numbers and he his company is losing record numbers of
- 38:32money. So which one is it?
- 38:34Larry Fink? Are we going to be okay?
- 38:37Because we need to know what the big Elites are doing with their
- 38:39money. Because we know how the kantian
- 38:42Insiders work. You guys are funding everything.
- 38:45So, if you guys are getting rekt, that's a sign of concern
- 38:48for me. Because, you know, People in
- 38:51charge are not going to let the musical chair music stop,
- 38:54without them getting the bag guys.
- 38:56So hey, I am not the biggest macro corporate guy, but I just
- 39:02see the signs and if black rock is losing money and he's telling
- 39:05us, we might be in a mild recession and inflation is
- 39:08fixable There's a problem on Main Street.
- 39:12We go Guzman, what's up? Oh man the opt.
- 39:16He's getting into the more complex issues.
- 39:18Love it, optic. This is a I think this is up
- 39:21these eight full episode doing the failed, then, dude, you're
- 39:25doing fucking great. I love it.
- 39:28Yeah, Larry Fink look that listen, man, I I'm just happy, I
- 39:34have Bitcoin, I'm happy, I have my money in Bitcoin because if
- 39:37if I didn't, I would have to deal like crazy.
- 39:40These crazy Psychopaths Like Larry Fink and he's also he's a
- 39:44big proponent of the whole ESG movement.
- 39:47And he uses his voting power that he has because he's
- 39:51managing everybody's assets right to force people.
- 39:55I mean Force companies, better said and governments to pursue
- 40:00so-called green energy policies that have been catastrophic for
- 40:04the average Joe because they get stuck paying higher energy bills
- 40:09and not To mention the unstable energy grids as well.
- 40:13Look at in Germany in Germany there are some places with the
- 40:16landlords are literally telling people to cut some firewood to
- 40:20warm themselves because their energy grid is so unreliable
- 40:24because they made big bets on unreliable green energy.
- 40:28Mind you I'm a big fan of green energy.
- 40:30The problem is that solar and wind don't produce all the time.
- 40:35The only reliable source of green energy is hydro.
- 40:38I love Hydro, I think Great form of energy, it's reliable as
- 40:41hell, but solar and wind are not, but they never tell you
- 40:45that when they pitch solar and wind, right.
- 40:47And one of the biggest pushers of that policy that hurts the
- 40:51average, Joe is Larry Fink. And of course, he's a member of
- 40:56the world economic Forum. Anyways, Goose Pond, what are
- 40:59your thoughts, buddy? You know, I agree with you on
- 41:02one. I'm like that's th e / like
- 41:06energy bar. The fan.
- 41:07I will also like nuclear, I'm a huge fan of like nuclear energy
- 41:10as well. It's my car, deeply, its energy
- 41:13and safest energy is available in the world besides like
- 41:16controversial thinking it's the most cost-effective the cheapest
- 41:21on the greenest as well. But I mean we also like
- 41:25macroeconomics I mean we didn't get like very very interesting
- 41:29environment right now. We're make all of these I like
- 41:32the largest corporations are like sitting on like all time
- 41:37high records amount of cash in the balance sheet, right?
- 41:41So, that's pretty much to do the money printer, like, going
- 41:44through over the last, like, few years, right?
- 41:48So, I think that corporations are in a position where they
- 41:50can, like, take a hit at least for a few months because they're
- 41:53like, sitting on so much passion.
- 41:55They have no idea what to do with it.
- 41:57I mean, you also see this were, like, employment is also like a
- 42:01Really low levels. Like there's a lot of employment
- 42:04going on in pretty much all over the world.
- 42:06Although we are neglecting this like very high you inflationary
- 42:09environment which seems to be contradictory, right?
- 42:13So there's kind of like Miss like yeah.
- 42:17I like mixing them across the place.
- 42:20But something that we talk about the last episode that I was here
- 42:23in the show was like they always an extremely curious that I'm
- 42:28from your white, right? So like a small countries as
- 42:30America Nation is something that the u.s. is kind of like
- 42:34discovering right now because there's haven't been inflation
- 42:37lasting 40 years. And I was born with inflation, I
- 42:39know what it's like people salaries together just by law
- 42:42every six months, right? Other words, extremely curious,
- 42:46is that all my life I've been before?
- 42:48I especially was converted to to bit concerned that I was like
- 42:51saving in dollars because for us the dollar like the US dollar
- 42:55was kind of like saving us at in which you should be saving,
- 42:59right? Do not like Bruce planning, your
- 43:01Has power. But now that has been
- 43:04essentially inverted u uy a so I can't read like three and a half
- 43:08million people has like lower inflation that the us and our
- 43:13currency it's getting its appreciating towards the dollar
- 43:18which is mind-blowing. I should be saving in Uruguay
- 43:22and pesos instead of like United States dollars, it's
- 43:25mind-blowing. It's kind of like changing
- 43:28everything back home wins. It's incredible.
- 43:31Like, I mean, we are not like a really low inflation WordPress.
- 43:34Like 7% per year, is kind of like relatively low.
- 43:38The central banks are competent to do that anywhere between
- 43:41three to seven as their Target. Right.
- 43:43Now, the u.s. is 99.1, right? So I'm already saving at 2%
- 43:48spread, just by Saving renew why I'm passes which is crazy.
- 43:52Something my parents never signed a life.
- 43:55I haven't seen in 25 years, so it's actually pretty crazy,
- 43:59that, that that's absolutely. We insane, I really appreciate
- 44:02you telling that story because it really gives a perspective of
- 44:06how crazy these times are right. Look the reality is that the
- 44:11United States printed 30% of the thirty percent of the dollars
- 44:18that were ever existed in the last two years, that is an
- 44:22insane amount of money and the consequences of that the
- 44:27psychological consequences, the social consequences, the
- 44:31Consequences are things that were feeling now, right?
- 44:34I think it just really turns the world upside down when you print
- 44:39money out of nowhere, which other people have to work for,
- 44:43right? So anyways, really interesting
- 44:45times but this doesn't matter if you're saving and Bitcoin.
- 44:49Anyways, Opti is time for the daily meme review, brought to
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- 45:19Must absolutely hilarious. Long bogdanoff.
- 45:23All right? You really do have to start
- 45:25asking what in the world is going on, right?
- 45:27This is the G7, you know, picture and yeah this Is I think
- 45:31this is a Japanese prime minister.
- 45:33He stepped down Boris Johnson stepped down, the Italian Prime
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- 45:46Right? So some things are some
- 45:49interesting things are definitely going on but you guys
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- 45:55All right, here we go. Orange pill, pharmacist I made a
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- 46:25Next one by Rasmus. The Second Amendment from the
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- 47:31No, not that one. Okay, I need the passports, the
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- 47:36What else do you do? I can remember the first one
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- 47:46All right. I was giving you a hard time.
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- 50:32and the shit coins. Of course, forgot that one and
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- 50:39to Simply Bitcoin. Bitcoin, miners getting pushed
- 50:41off the network is a feature. Not a bug.