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Best of Ian Furness 10/20 · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Is the government prepared to make an opening statement?
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  Speaker 2: The facts of the case are these. The opening statement.
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  Speaker 1: These are the facts of the case, and they are undisputed.
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  Speaker 2: Text your thoughts on this opening statement to 49451. You
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  Speaker 2: want answers?
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  Speaker 3: I think I'm entitled.
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  Speaker 2: You want answers?
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  Speaker 3: I want the truth! You can't handle the truth!
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  Speaker 4: Now, ask counsel to check his sense of humor at
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  Speaker 4: the door.
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  Speaker 2: Today's opening statement. I'm going to give you a number,
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  Speaker 2: Ashley Ryan, and I want you to tell me if
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  Speaker 2: it means anything at all to you. Okay. 6,684.
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  Speaker 4: Not a thing.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing? Nope. Not at all, huh?
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  Speaker 5: Not a, doesn't spark a single thought in my brain.
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  Speaker 2: How about this? 18 years, three months, 18 days.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, is that how long the Sonics have been gone?
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  Speaker 2: July 2nd, 2008. We lost our NBA franchise. Today is
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  Speaker 2: the 20th of October, 2026. Today is the opening day
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  Speaker 2: of the NBA season, the 18th NBA season, without a
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  Speaker 2: team that had been in the league for 41 years.
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  Speaker 2: More importantly, a city and a community that supported the
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  Speaker 2: NBA for 41 years. We are, by all indications, on
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  Speaker 2: the verge of being an NBA city again. Getting there
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  Speaker 2: not only has taken... a long time, 6,684 days, 18 years,
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  Speaker 2: three months, 18 days, or 219 months, 18 days, depending
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  Speaker 2: on how you want to look at it. It's a
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  Speaker 2: long damn time to be without the NBA. What has
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  Speaker 2: happened in that timeframe? Well, a lot. 12 different NBA champions,
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  Speaker 2: 10 different NBA MVPs during that period of time. None
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  Speaker 2: of them had Seattle Supersonics next to their name. As
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  Speaker 2: we get closer to perhaps, to being awarded a franchise
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  Speaker 2: back in this city, which is one of the great
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  Speaker 2: basketball cities in our country. And I think that needs
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  Speaker 2: to be pointed out. I've been fortunate enough, I guess,
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  Speaker 2: in a sense, to be able to work in a
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  Speaker 2: couple of different markets, both NBA cities, Salt Lake City
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  Speaker 2: and Portland, both incredible NBA cities, where the team means
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  Speaker 2: to them what the Seahawks mean to us. So just
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  Speaker 2: imagine that bond.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of unconditional love. But the basketball in those communities,
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  Speaker 2: not at the same level as the basketball in our
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  Speaker 2: community here. AAU gets trashed all the time by people
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  Speaker 2: that frankly have no idea what AAU basketball is. They
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  Speaker 2: think it's just basically Nike supporting a team of a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of guys that come together and get paid and
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  Speaker 2: act like fools and yell at referees and fight.
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  Speaker 1: That's not it.
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  Speaker 4: They just hear all the horror stories.
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  Speaker 2: Which you can hear in and see in softball.
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  Speaker 6: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Everywhere.
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  Speaker 5: Everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: Youth football, soccer, lacrosse, etc. But having been involved in
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  Speaker 2: the basketball scene for, what was he, probably eight or
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  Speaker 2: nine years, and seeing some of the great players come
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  Speaker 2: through here. I joke about Seattle Rotary all the time,
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  Speaker 2: but I mean, if you're a dude and you're in Seattle,
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  Speaker 2: you play for Rotary. And you play at a high level.
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  Speaker 2: And you play with passion. You play because you love
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  Speaker 2: the game. You go down the MLK way. Boys and
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  Speaker 2: Girls Club on MLK Way, any weekend, any weekend, walk
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  Speaker 2: into that place. I think it's three courts that they
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  Speaker 2: have there, and you see hoops. High-end kids playing hoops,
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  Speaker 2: boys and girls playing hoops with passion. You go watch
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  Speaker 2: a Metro League basketball game in our city. You go
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  Speaker 2: watch a Kingco basketball game in our city. SPSL, doesn't matter. NPSL,
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  Speaker 2: all these. Schools that aren't good in any other sport
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  Speaker 2: are damn good in basketball. I mean, this Kent school
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  Speaker 2: seemed to kind of move through it. Some years Kent
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  Speaker 2: Ridge might be good. Some years Kentwood might be good.
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  Speaker 2: Never is Kent Meridian good.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry.
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  Speaker 2: But you get my point. Basketball means something here. It's
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  Speaker 2: an important part of the fabric of our life. But
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  Speaker 2: 6,684 days have passed, and I can officially say, as
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  Speaker 2: the NBA tips off tonight, Today, now. Today, right now. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's a game on. I don't care. I do not
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  Speaker 2: care at all. And I'm not someone that immediately hated
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  Speaker 2: the NBA. Hell, a year after they left, I ended
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  Speaker 2: up getting a job done back in Portland and having
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  Speaker 2: to commute hosting Blazers pre and post game on TV.
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  Speaker 2: I grew up loving the NBA. I grew up loving
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  Speaker 2: the Sonics specifically. But we've gone... 6,684 days without the NBA.
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  Speaker 2: And while they tip it off tonight and ESPN will
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  Speaker 2: celebrate and Chuck and Shaq and Ernie and Kenny will
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  Speaker 2: do their thing, I'm not watching. Just done. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: boycotting it. I'm not refusing to talk like we joke
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  Speaker 2: around with the Mariners. I'm not saying I'm not ever
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  Speaker 2: going to Starbucks like my man Softy does. No, it's
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  Speaker 2: just a quiet, like, let me know when they're back.
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  Speaker 2: And until they're back, I... Don't care. I say that,
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  Speaker 2: I'll probably end up going down to Salt Lake and
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  Speaker 2: watching a game with my son this year because it's
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  Speaker 2: something we try to do. He loves the league. I
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  Speaker 2: don't like the league anymore. I don't like the players anymore.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like the attitude anymore. I don't like a
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  Speaker 2: league that punishes everybody except for the player, Kawhi Leonard.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like a league that has guys tapping out
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  Speaker 2: and getting paid anyway. Too many of you to mention
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  Speaker 2: by name. But I'll fall in love with it again
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  Speaker 2: when it comes back. Like, when it comes back, I'll
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  Speaker 2: fall in love. And when it comes back, Sonic's gear
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  Speaker 2: all the way around. Can't wait. But I can wait
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  Speaker 2: for our team to be back, to enjoy the NBA again.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not one celebrating it today. I just, you do you, NBA.
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  Speaker 2: You gave us the middle finger. And this doesn't have
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  Speaker 2: to do, by the way, with what happened last week
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  Speaker 2: and the comments made by Adam Silver to Brian Windhorst. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, if you saw that story, I think a lot,
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  Speaker 2: much ado about nothing. Now, if it does come out
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  Speaker 2: later on that they are going to actually try to
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  Speaker 2: hold our ownership group hostage or try to force additional
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  Speaker 2: investors in so they can raise the money from what it's,
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  Speaker 2: and really it's not worth 7 billion, but that's what
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  Speaker 2: it'll be. It's worth far less than that for an
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  Speaker 2: expansion franchise that frankly is going to have a hard
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  Speaker 2: time its first few years winning. I mean, the Vegas
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  Speaker 2: Golden Knights got the Stanley Cup final right off the get-go.
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  Speaker 2: The Kraken went to the playoffs the second year. NBA
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  Speaker 2: ain't going to be like that. It's just not going
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  Speaker 2: to be like that. It's going to be really, really hard.
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  Speaker 2: You might win the lottery. You might get a really
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  Speaker 2: good player, but you're not getting two good players. In
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  Speaker 2: the NBA, you better have three. But The only thing
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  Speaker 2: that bothers me about that other stuff is Samantha Holloway,
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  Speaker 2: Melinda French-Gates, Annie Jassy, the people involved with One Roof
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  Speaker 2: that have built a building here, a state-of-the-art building that
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  Speaker 2: is NBA ready. Don't let anybody tell you differently. It
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  Speaker 2: is NBA ready. They consulted with the NBA the entire project.
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  Speaker 1: Starting in 2019.
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  Speaker 2: They were in lockstep with the NBA from the start
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  Speaker 2: and have been. Anybody that writes or says different, is A, erroneous,
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  Speaker 2: and B.
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  Speaker 7: A fool.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Just probably doing it for clicks, honestly.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: To get you riled up. That's a great, that will be,
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  Speaker 2: they designed it for the NBA and the NHL and concerts.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah. Everything.
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  Speaker 2: They wanted it all.
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  Speaker 5: And if you think they didn't, then they, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: they're not, they didn't get this wealthy being dumb.
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  Speaker 2: David Bonnerman knew what he was doing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The late David Bonnerman. But until then, I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: Chris and the morning guys can talk about it. Dick
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  Speaker 2: in the afternoon can talk about it. 6,684 days since
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  Speaker 2: they gave us the middle finger. And make no mistake,
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  Speaker 2: make no mistake, this was a cumulative effort. It wasn't
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  Speaker 2: just Howard. It wasn't just Bennett. As much as anything,
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  Speaker 2: it was David Stern. Because if you remember a couple
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  Speaker 2: years later, what happened? We thought we could have the
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  Speaker 2: Sacramento Kings come here. Now, we still had a building issue.
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  Speaker 2: Too deep to get into. Chris Hansen's building probably never
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  Speaker 2: was going to get built. But David Stern stepped in
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  Speaker 2: and said, no, we're not moving the Sacramento Kings. He
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  Speaker 2: very easily could have done that with the Sonics, and
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  Speaker 2: he did not.
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  Speaker 3: Correct.
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  Speaker 2: And Adam Silver was sitting right next to him at
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  Speaker 2: the right hand of the Father, Holy Spirit, and everybody else,
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  Speaker 2: David Stern. He's right there. So he's as culpable as anybody.
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  Speaker 2: Until Adam Silver makes it right, no to the NBA
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  Speaker 2: for this guy, I'll take it one other step. I'll
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  Speaker 2: go back to the money. You think you're sticker shock
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  Speaker 2: these days with some sports?
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  Speaker 9: $ 7 billion is going to be sticker shock for the owners.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be sticker shock for you, the fans.
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  Speaker 2: You jack that thing up to $ 10 billion, even with
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  Speaker 2: additional investors, it is going to be really hard. That's
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  Speaker 2: why we're doing these things every few days. We're trying
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  Speaker 2: to give away tickets to get people into the building
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  Speaker 2: that haven't been there before. I understand it's expensive to
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  Speaker 2: go to a game. You've got a child. You know it.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Three of you go out. Four of you go out.
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  Speaker 2: It's expensive. I mean, just a movie is expensive. But
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  Speaker 2: the NBA gave us the middle finger 6,600 days ago.
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  Speaker 2: It's too long. I've lost interest. Wake me up when
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  Speaker 2: they come back. But until then, no to the NBA.
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  Speaker 2: For this guy, your reaction, 49451. Also on the talkbacks,
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  Speaker 2: red microphone, fire away your thoughts. That's our opening statement
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  Speaker 2: for today.
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  Speaker 3: Ashley.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, you want me to respond?
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I didn't know if I was supposed to go.
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  Speaker 4: I will say everything you're saying.
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  Speaker 5: I completely agree with. I I saw the statement from
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  Speaker 5: last week or the comments from last week. And I
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  Speaker 5: put out like, this is again, why I repeatedly say
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  Speaker 5: the same thing until the NBA. actually says, okay, you
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  Speaker 5: have a franchise. I am not getting excited. I am
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  Speaker 5: not putting any interest in the NBA. And I've gotten
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  Speaker 5: a lot of people that have asked me, what makes
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  Speaker 5: you even want the NBA back in the first place?
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  Speaker 5: And it's had me thinking, I was like, I guess
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, other than I want them to right
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  Speaker 5: the wrong. We never should have lost them in the
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  Speaker 5: first place. That's a great way to put it. And
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  Speaker 5: it just feels, it feels unjust. Until that we get
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  Speaker 5: our team back, the whole thing feels unjust. And I
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  Speaker 5: just want it to be corrected.
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  Speaker 8: Corrected?
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  Speaker 5: And I don't know how I'll feel about the NBA
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  Speaker 5: when they come back. I like to think I'll be excited,
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  Speaker 5: but yeah, I feel burned.
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  Speaker 4: I'm upset. I have lost interest.
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  Speaker 5: I won't be an immediate, all right, let's go.
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  Speaker 4: I'm back. It'll take time.
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  Speaker 2: That's for sure. And I think that's going to be
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  Speaker 2: the case. I'm curious what people are saying. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's going to be the case for a lot of people.
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  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are, listen, I always
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  Speaker 2: joked about the NBA when they first left kind of
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  Speaker 2: being sports porn. People would say they're not watching it.
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  Speaker 2: And then when I was working for the TV station,
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  Speaker 2: I could see people were watching some NBA finals. Not all,
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  Speaker 2: but when you had the great Golden State teams taking
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  Speaker 2: on LeBron and Cleveland, people watched. They watched those games.
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  Speaker 2: But I think so much time has gone by. The
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  Speaker 2: league has changed quite a bit.
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  Speaker 4: A lot.
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  Speaker 2: A lot. I don't know if you're ever going to
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  Speaker 2: have the affinity. It'd be interesting to see if we
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  Speaker 2: ever have that bond again. that we had with a
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  Speaker 2: handful of the Sonics teams and a whole bunch of
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  Speaker 2: the players. For old people, me, others, we'll always have
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  Speaker 2: this just great feeling of love for the 79 team.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I was young, but those were your first
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  Speaker 2: sports heroes. I mean, for me, my first one was
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  Speaker 2: probably Spencer Haywood. And then later on, the guys that
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  Speaker 2: were on that team in 79 with Gus and DJ
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  Speaker 2: and JJ and Freddie and Jack and et cetera, the
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  Speaker 2: whole nine yards, Lenny, the late Lenny Wilkins. Obviously the
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  Speaker 2: 96 team people just had a, and I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if we can ever have that feeling again towards that
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  Speaker 2: team because, you know, Gary and Sean were special. George
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  Speaker 2: was special. Debt's still around. You know, that whole group,
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  Speaker 2: they were special. There was a bond, a connection in
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  Speaker 2: the community. I don't know if we're ever going to
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  Speaker 2: have that again with the NBA. Maybe we will, but
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  Speaker 2: with that bond has to come success. And that success
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  Speaker 2: is probably far down the road, right? And then even today,
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  Speaker 2: today's NBA player, load management. Imagine Gary Payton saying, I'm
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: taking a night. Yeah, we're playing Stockton in the Jazz tonight,
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: but I'm taking the night off for load management. No.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to go lock down John Stockton. Those
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: guys couldn't fathom. I still hate Karl Malone for a
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  Speaker 2: lot of reasons.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: For a lot of reasons. That dude didn't take a
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  Speaker 2: night off ever.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 4: And he got, I mean, he was, that guy worked
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  Speaker 4: so hard. It was incredible.
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  Speaker 2: None of those guys.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, all of them.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, just you talking about the legends, too, like
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  Speaker 5: Freddie and Slick Watts. I mean, that was like half
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  Speaker 5: the fun in high school. So at my high school
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  Speaker 5: was Fred Brown's kids.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: And at Lake Washington, it was Donald Watts.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 5: And so you would go and that was the matchup
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  Speaker 5: to be at every time Mercer Island would play Lake Washington.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Fred on one side and Slick on the other side.
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  Speaker 5: And the way they watched basketball was so different. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: Slick was pumped up. Fred was frowning the whole time.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you would just watch them both. That was
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  Speaker 5: the coolest night.
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  Speaker 2: Was that Ed Peppel coaching them? Yep, Ed Peppel.
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  Speaker 1: Legend.
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  Speaker 2: What a legend.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, God, that man was incredible.
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  Speaker 1: What a legend.
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  Speaker 2: Well, anyway, I want to get your thoughts on that 49451.
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  Speaker 2: We'll do that as the day goes on. Maybe look
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  Speaker 2: at those at 1245. We've got some other stuff to
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  Speaker 2: get to. Seahawks, we've got a lot today. All coming
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  Speaker 2: up on i3.
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  Speaker 2: All right, here we go. Time for the Cougar Legends.
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  Speaker 2: Alex Brink. And Crystal Bruce, first of all, Alex, my apologies.
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  Speaker 2: I misspelled your name in the group text, but that was... Alex. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's the.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: It's the voice-to-text thing. It was in the car. I
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  Speaker 2: think it just defaulted to my sister, which was I,
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  Speaker 2: you are the E. So my apologies. I got my
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  Speaker 2: vowels mixed up. The disrespect was unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: And he put some respect on Tracy.
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  Speaker 6: What if I told you this crazy stat you probably
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  Speaker 6: don't know about me.
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  Speaker 1: Alex is not my first name. It's my middle name.
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  Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa.
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  Speaker 1: You're welcome.
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  Speaker 3: You're welcome.
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  Speaker 2: Do we want to go down the road.
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  Speaker 1: Of what the first name is? I'll just leave that
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  Speaker 1: out there. No, we're just going to leave it out there.
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  Speaker 9: His name's like Tobias or something.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it's in Christo.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it's the annexation of Puerto Rico. We don't know. Oh, gosh.
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  Speaker 2: All right, fellas. Boise State week, but obviously the big–
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: this entire– Alex is living down in Oregon, and MK,
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: you're back and forth between all points, including Maple Valley,
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: but down in the areas all over the place. This
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: state has a quarterback situation. The Seahawks have a quarterback situation.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: The Huskies are paying a guy $ 4. 5 million, and the
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  Speaker 2: guy that's his backup might be better, apparently, Elijah Brown.
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  Speaker 2: We gave a guy a truck, apparently, from Valley Buick GMC,
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  Speaker 2: and maybe that prevented a quarterback change. I know it didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Kirby said that yesterday. But maybe there isn't a quarterback situation.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to all those things in Boise State in
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  Speaker 2: a second. Let's just go with some opening thoughts after
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  Speaker 2: last week watching the Beavs down there in Corvallis. Alex,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: fire away.
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think to some degree it was a step
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: in the right direction in a few different ways. Obviously,
• 16:28
  Speaker 6: it's still a loss and there's no moral victory. So
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: being 1-6 is not in any way, shape, or form
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: where Kirby Moore wanted to be and the staff and everybody.
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: But again, like I talked about before, the whole nature
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: of Where would the landscape of college? I mean, Oregon's
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: spending $ 40 million on a roster and barely being Nebraska, right?
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: Like it's, it's, it's, there's just layers to this. And so,
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: you know, I saw improvement. Obviously the quarterback position was
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: a plus. I thought, you know, it's good to see
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: some receivers step up and make some plays. um you
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: know i was a little surprised i think or you
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: know the washington state defense is going to need to
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: play their best football and they probably didn't play their
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: best right against a really high powered offense they played
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: solid but gave up a couple of explosive plays that
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: ultimately were you know big difference makers so you know
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: i think the team for what it's worth can leave
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: cordalis feeling like you know they have some some hope
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: and some life and the fan base feels like there's
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: some hope and some life and so those are all
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: positives but they got to find a way to They've
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: got to find a way to get some wins here
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: down the stretch.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: And it's going to be tough, obviously, to start with
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Boise State.
• 17:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and that's something that we talked about too, Ian, was,
• 17:37
  Speaker 9: you know, Washington State had to play lights out football.
• 17:40
  Speaker 9: You know, you have arguably the quote-unquote best receiver in
• 17:45
  Speaker 9: college football right now at 5'4, you know, going out
• 17:48
  Speaker 9: there as the actual stat monster right now. And we
• 17:51
  Speaker 9: knew Jesse was going to– We knew he was going
• 17:54
  Speaker 9: to go off and do whatever.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: And he had some drops to where he could have
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: done more. Right.
• 17:58
  Speaker 9: So Washington state had to be one at its very best,
• 18:01
  Speaker 9: but to anybody to just point at the defense and
• 18:03
  Speaker 9: be like, Oh, we lost because of defense on this.
• 18:05
  Speaker 9: I want to be very clear. Oregon state has done
• 18:07
  Speaker 9: that to everybody. Like they're a statistic giant. Like that's
• 18:11
  Speaker 9: what they do. So I think for Washington state, the defensively,
• 18:14
  Speaker 9: they needed to go over there and manage the game
• 18:16
  Speaker 9: and not let it get out of hand. But we
• 18:17
  Speaker 9: knew that we needed to score points and still redstone
• 18:21
  Speaker 9: challenges or anything. The thing that excited me the most
• 18:24
  Speaker 9: is this is the first time I swear we've seen
• 18:26
  Speaker 9: a Washington State quarterback this year throw over 10 yards.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: It feels like, right? So to see a Russ Moon
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: ball by Owen, you know, into the back of the end.
• 18:33
  Speaker 9: Zone or just see taking a shot in general was
• 18:37
  Speaker 9: a breath of fresh air because it's like, okay, we
• 18:38
  Speaker 9: can work around that. But just not throwing the ball
• 18:41
  Speaker 9: downfield or not pushing the envelope, that was frustrating to watch.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: All right, Owen Eshelman, first career start, 32 of 49, 289,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: two touchdowns, also ran for 136, second most by a
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: quarterback in history. Just second only to John Mateers, 197
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: in 2024 against Texas Tech. The seventh 100-yard rushing game
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: by a Cougar in quarterback. And going back, I don't
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: even know who the last guys were. I mean, obviously Mateer. Probably, God,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Ed Blunt.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: How much did 10 have in the game? I don't know.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Not that many. Yeah, I was going to say 10. No,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: it didn't have that many. All right, let's go. Let's
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: just get QB 10, QB 1, our guy. Let's get
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: your evaluation of Owen.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Eshelman, Alex.
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was really impressed for a young player on
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: the road against a pretty good defense in Oregon State.
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: They show a lot of different fronts. They mix it
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: up a little bit. Before we even start this, kudos
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: to Kirby Moore. Another week of prep. The play calling,
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: they got some plays in. The big touchdown to Gannish
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: and Worthy was a new scheme with, you know, kind
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: of a new wrinkle that they executed on the big
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: post throw. So, you know, saw some things play calling
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: wise also that really helped, right? But Eshelman, you know,
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: it took him maybe a quarter or so to get
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: his feet underneath him a little bit, I think, and
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: kind of get used to the speed of the game.
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: But once he got it, you know, I thought he was,
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: you know, really decisive defensively. they did some things for him.
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: You mentioned the, as much as he kind of scrambled
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: and ran the ball, but they did some things to
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: spread it out and give him the opportunity to either
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: just throw a quick pass or run. And that effectively
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: replaced your screen or your, your running game. Cause Washington
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: state still can't run the football, which is, which is terrible. But,
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: you know, I thought he had a really, you know,
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: he did some really good decision-making there. And then, yeah,
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: the ability to throw the ball downfield kind of over
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: the middle and, locate the ball behind linebackers. I thought
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: he looked really poised in that regard. And the last
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: thing I'll say is I just loved his competitive spirit,
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: like all the way to battling, you know, and, and again,
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: like we knew he was a competitor. We'd heard about
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: those things, but you know, I'm really impressed and proud
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: of Eshelman as just a redshirt freshman to step in
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: and play as well as he did.
• 20:51
  Speaker 9: Let's talk about the environment, guys. Alex, you and I
• 20:54
  Speaker 9: have played at Oregon State. That chainsaw, every time, to
• 20:58
  Speaker 9: this day, when I hear that stupid chainsaw, I want
• 21:00
  Speaker 9: to slap somebody. I hate it. It's not a super
• 21:03
  Speaker 9: easy place to play. And honestly, that's the most filled
• 21:06
  Speaker 9: I've seen this day. I mean, those guys have that
• 21:09
  Speaker 9: crowd and that community rocking right now.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: All it takes is winning.
• 21:13
  Speaker 9: Someone asked me, they're like, what does Washington State have
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: to do to get fans in the seats?
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Win.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Win games. So you see them score points, win games.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: That's why error rate is.
• 21:22
  Speaker 9: So important or people want to come see. They want
• 21:25
  Speaker 9: to see the razzle-dazzle and the touchdown. So they're giving
• 21:27
  Speaker 9: them all of that and more. So to have a
• 21:29
  Speaker 9: young quarterback essentially have one week to prep as a
• 21:32
  Speaker 9: starter and then jump in there and play as well
• 21:35
  Speaker 9: as he did, I think that's a bright future. The
• 21:37
  Speaker 9: question is going to be is he's got film, he's
• 21:39
  Speaker 9: got tape out there. Who's going to pay him to
• 21:41
  Speaker 9: leave next year? That's the question we start asking in
• 21:44
  Speaker 9: these environments at NIL.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I get that. You know, listen, he's got
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: one game on tape. The team's going to end up
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: with maybe, what, three wins or something. Who knows when
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: it's all said and done. I mean, and certainly he
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: could go or, you know, he could be told he's
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: the guy. I guess my question is, I just hate
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: going down that road. I know what you're saying, MK.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I know what you're saying. We all know what you're
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: saying because the whole thing, I mean, that's. every Oregon
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: state fans thinking about their two guys, right?
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, put up a middle. Do you see that?
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: I wonder what the heck is going on. Legree's got
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: some announcement on Friday. I don't even, who knows, but Alex,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: this is this.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: This is me being fan media guy. And I'll ask
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: you and then MK jump in. What the hell took
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: this so long? Like, like this is like, I mean, listen,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: based on one game, you can't make these over these
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: crazy about, but, based on one game, I don't think
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: this team's one in six. If you, if you would
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: have been playing earlier.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't, I mean, I don't know.
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: I mean, like again, the, there, there was certainly a
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: back and forth before the season where, you know, their
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: guys were competing and, and like nobody puts out a
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: guy that's not the best option.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: If you're a coach at any level.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: So clearly like Caden won the job out of camp.
• 23:00
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: And you could argue like, you know, when you look
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: at it, you got a 17 point lead or sorry,
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: a three point lead, you know, against Arizona and you're,
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: and you're playing good. You got a, you know, you
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: got the lead at Utah state. You've, you know, you're
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: in it against UW on the road and your first start, like,
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: you know, there were some bad moments late in games
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: that we all talked about, right. And some, and some
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: other issues, but like, it wasn't so far gone in
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: the moment that you would have sat him down. In
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: my opinion, I think there's, I think you clearly made
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: the decision after five weeks, he was, or yeah, five weeks,
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: he was, name the starter out of it. And then
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: you made a decision, you know? And so you think
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: about the inverse, right? Is like last year, Jimmy Rogers
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: and that staff made a mistake, right? Zeviak house should
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: have been the starter over Jackson Potter out of camp, right?
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: Cause you can always kind of, you can always go
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: from the older guy back to the younger guy and
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: not really in, in the end, they threw Jackson Potter
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: to the wolves. he had, you know, he had some
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: challenges and I don't think Jackson Pollard's a bad player,
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: but now all of a sudden he's out of the mix, right?
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: I think this is the way you kind of approach
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: these situations. So, you know, hindsight's 20-20. I get it
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: and I get the frustration, but, you know, there's no
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: guarantee that, you know, Washington State's, you know, whatever, 3-3
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: or whatever just because you play Owen Eshelman out of camp.
• 24:09
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I think you know, it's foreign
• 24:11
  Speaker 9: to a stretch maybe, but, but I look back at
• 24:14
  Speaker 9: that UW game, you know, you have Owen in there, but,
• 24:17
  Speaker 9: you know, I think it's a totally different game, you know?
• 24:19
  Speaker 9: So I think Utah state, utah state right but but
• 24:23
  Speaker 9: same same thing i just i just think like we
• 24:25
  Speaker 9: had no shot of scoring points i don't know whether
• 24:28
  Speaker 9: it was just too much for pinnick or what but
• 24:31
  Speaker 9: his decision making we saw early on wasn't there and
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: then you essentially almost get your offensive coordinator fired uh
• 24:36
  Speaker 9: for the same thing too so it's just you know
• 24:39
  Speaker 9: as a head coach and as a new guy you're
• 24:41
  Speaker 9: trying to prove yourself you get this new roster and
• 24:44
  Speaker 9: and i know we're giving him this excuse every single
• 24:46
  Speaker 9: week but i think kirby's a good coach and i
• 24:47
  Speaker 9: think he's he's he's taking what he has and he's
• 24:50
  Speaker 9: trying to put everybody in the right position to be
• 24:52
  Speaker 9: successful and there's a lot of moving parts but the
• 24:54
  Speaker 9: best head coaches that's why they're so successful is because
• 24:57
  Speaker 9: they put people in the best possible position to be
• 25:00
  Speaker 9: the best they can be.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: The uh let me get back to kirby in a
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: second that's them crystal bruce alex brink alex we go
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: back to just you both said something about decision making
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: and i think that has to be the hardest thing
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: with i mean because look alex you're training these quarterbacks
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: in the offseason you're with these guys A lot of
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: dudes can step back and rip it, right, and throw it.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: And a lot of guys can run fast and look
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: the part. I thought what you said was really interesting
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: because it felt that that was the case. Like, he
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: ran when he should have run, right? Like, he took
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: off when he should have. He saw the gaps. Alex,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: how impressive was just the decision-making by Eshelman in that sense?
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Because that's, to me, kind of what jumped out. It's like, okay, like,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: not every decision was perfect, but, like, he– In that environment,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: like you guys are talking about and under siege and
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: everything else, Alex, I mean, I think that just kind
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: of jumped off the page at me for a guy getting.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: His first start. Yeah.
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: Really good example is the fourth and one touchdown run, right?
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: Where he, you know, it's, it's, it's his own read.
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: Like it's a quarterback kind of midline where, you know,
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: he's reading the defender that's right over the top, basically
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: of the, of the guard.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: And they're going to leave that guy.
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: And if that guy crashes down, he's going to pull it,
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: you know, the quarterback can pull. But when I say
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: that happens in the most bang, bang, like fastest moment,
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: it is really hard to see.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: And so it's, All the time you see quarterbacks on,
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: you know, fourth and short, just handed to the back
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: because that's, you know, he's your running back.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: You think he's going to get there.
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: So his decision-making in that moment to have the confidence
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: and record recognition to pull it. And then he makes the,
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: he obviously scores touchdown. I thought that was really impressive
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: in a moment like that. Cause that's hard for a
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: young player, but yeah, you know, some of the things
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: with his scrambling, you know, he does a nice job
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: climbing up in the pocket and which, you know, then,
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: you know, MK knows this, he's a defensive end, defensive
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: ends kind of run by you and you see those
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: running lanes or, or you open up passing lanes. So
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: that was another thing. Good feel, you know, some good
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: feel there. You know, but I thought ultimately the, What
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: impressed me the most was his ability to move on
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: more mid-range throws, be able to move off his first read,
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: get to his second read, and then still be able
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: to locate the football accurately most of the time. That,
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: to me, again, gives you a real hope that he's
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: got a good feel for the game. You mentioned we're
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: using the term decision-making, but again, he processes and understands
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: the information.
• 27:15
  Speaker 9: A part that I was really excited about was stepping
• 27:17
  Speaker 9: up in the pocket. Like you were saying, I feel
• 27:19
  Speaker 9: like kind of the first few games, you know, it was,
• 27:22
  Speaker 9: you could see almost a panic with his, with his
• 27:24
  Speaker 9: body moving and you didn't know what he was thinking.
• 27:26
  Speaker 9: The thing about Owen, if you watch that really game,
• 27:29
  Speaker 9: you'd look at him. He looked comfortable back there, guys.
• 27:32
  Speaker 9: Like he was like, Hey, like this is where I'm
• 27:33
  Speaker 9: supposed to be. I think how exciting for a young
• 27:36
  Speaker 9: guy to sit poised in the pocket. Like you were
• 27:38
  Speaker 9: saying that, Alex stepping up in the pocket. Like 10,
• 27:42
  Speaker 9: you can tell everybody right now that can't be a
• 27:45
  Speaker 9: comfortable situation with all these 300 pounders in the middle.
• 27:48
  Speaker 9: Let me put my body in front of them in
• 27:51
  Speaker 9: the lion's den and then still throw a ball downfield
• 27:53
  Speaker 9: because he was stepping on the pocket in and he
• 27:55
  Speaker 9: was still looking downfield through all of his progressions. Like
• 27:59
  Speaker 9: you gotta have some cojones to do that. And I
• 28:01
  Speaker 9: think that we were missing that with Penn.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Darius Clemens might be out this week, which would be,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: you know, a tough one, a tough loss. Alex, what's
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: your assessment of the receiving group? I mean, we know
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: that they've lost their guy. I mean, Freeman out is
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: just killer. I mean, it's just an absolute killer.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: We know that.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: But, I mean, you've got a lot of dudes. They
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: may end up playing a couple of walk-ons this weekend.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: What's your assessment of the receiving group? And is it quarterback-based,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: or can those guys be better for the quarterback?
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: I think they can be better for the quarterback. I
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: don't think it's a super strong group. If you remember,
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: you lost coming out of the season. You retained Tony Freeman,
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: which was great. But you lost a couple of young players,
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: Landon Wright and I'm based on the other young man's
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: name that left to go, you know, to take some
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: money when they hadn't even really played.
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: And it was like it was almost a shock. You're like, oh,
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: my goodness. Like these guys are I think Landon went
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: to Oklahoma. Maybe, you know, it was like a very,
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: you know, the. The opportunities they got were big, which
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: is great for them. But I don't think Washington State
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: thought they would lose those guys. And they would have
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: really helped the depth in this room, right?
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: For sure. And then Tony Freeman gets hurt. That was brutal.
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: And I think the guys you brought in, you know,
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: Tank Hawkins was always going to be a little bit
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: of a project, kind of a gadget guy. And he's
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: going to get pushed into a lot more opportunity now
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: with Darius out because... Basically, Daniel Blood's going to have
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: to go outside and play the other outside receiver replacing Clemens.
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: And then you've got Brandon Ganesh Amorthy. And that was
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: the biggest one for me is Ganesh Amorthy's got all
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: the tools in the world. He's a track guy out
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: of high school. And it felt like he wasn't quite
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: putting it all together during the games, the first five
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: or six weeks. And to see him, even in this game,
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: he had a couple drops and it wasn't that early
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: on and then all of a sudden he caught that
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: touchdown pass and it was like he just the light
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: bulb went off and so if he can really step
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: up i think daniel blood's solid like he's not a
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: game breaker um and so i say all that to
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: say i don't think that group is super strong um
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: they and they need to step up to help the
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: quarterback but In the end, the worst problem for this
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: offense is that they can't run the football. You've got
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: three backs you retained. You've got a whole offense blind
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: you retained. And if I begged them to get five
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: yards on a run, they couldn't do it. And that
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: is a huge issue in this offense because it limits
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: you so much with everything else you do.
• 30:14
  Speaker 9: Yeah, but I also think, though, too, I'd follow up
• 30:17
  Speaker 9: on that. You have three really good running backs, right?
• 30:19
  Speaker 9: Or we have three solid running backs, let's just say, right? Like,
• 30:23
  Speaker 9: does it make any sense to put a Woods in
• 30:24
  Speaker 9: the slot or put a Voorhees in the slot and
• 30:27
  Speaker 9: help us out in that way to get the ball
• 30:29
  Speaker 9: in their hands more in open field?
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Like, is that something that can open things up, Alex? Yeah,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: no doubt. And you've seen it with Maxwell Woods a
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: little bit. they've mixed him up in the slot.
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: But there's been moments too where I don't know that
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: Maxwell Woods has played his best football. I think he
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: maybe is trying to do a little too much when
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: he gets the ball in his hands. He's had a
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: couple drops when he's been in the slot or out
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: of the backfield. And so um you know i think
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: there's maybe a trust factor there of like is he
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: you know is he able to take on more of
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: a workload the guy that i want to see get
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: the ball more is leo pulasi like we saw two
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: weeks ago against utah state thought he had some good
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: moments against oregon state i just i don't know that
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: leo gets enough touches based on his skill set.
• 31:08
  Speaker 9: But it's also it's also putting ourselves in a position
• 31:11
  Speaker 9: to get more touches and i think you know always
• 31:13
  Speaker 9: playing from behind or always playing for the position that
• 31:17
  Speaker 9: we're in, you know, as a defense, you can choose
• 31:20
  Speaker 9: different fronts and everything to play just because you know
• 31:22
  Speaker 9: they're going to have to pass the ball, or just
• 31:23
  Speaker 9: things like that. It's just we've got to get to
• 31:25
  Speaker 9: a point where you can score more or stretch the
• 31:27
  Speaker 9: field a little bit so you can open up the run.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: MK, you and I were going back and forth. I'll
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: let you pump up the tires of the defense for
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: a second, Trent Bray, because everyone's worried they're going to
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: lose Trent Bray, and I told that Trent or Alex
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: or MK, sorry, It was like, you know, fans like, well,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: we're going to lose our D coordinator. I mean, that's
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: the world we live in right now. Like anybody has
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: any kind of success coach player going to lose that guy.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: We're going to lose that guy. And I said, well,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: based on the tape from Saturday, they ain't losing Trent Bray,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: but you love Trent Bray. You like this defense fire away.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Tell me how dumb I am.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Very, very.
• 31:57
  Speaker 9: And I love you, but I'm telling you right now,
• 31:59
  Speaker 9: if anybody sits here is going to think that this
• 32:01
  Speaker 9: guy's not going to get offered the creme dollar creme
• 32:04
  Speaker 9: of jobs, he's taking the caliber of guys that he
• 32:08
  Speaker 9: has and no disrespect.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Washington State.
• 32:11
  Speaker 9: I'm just saying he's taking these athletes and he's put
• 32:13
  Speaker 9: every single player in the best position to be the
• 32:15
  Speaker 9: best they could be, right? He's done such a great
• 32:18
  Speaker 9: job and everything is out there on film. We do
• 32:20
  Speaker 9: not have a bunch of five-star chip athletes out there
• 32:23
  Speaker 9: and they're still playing great defense. And I think Bray,
• 32:25
  Speaker 9: is he pretty much signed his ticket to go get
• 32:28
  Speaker 9: a bag. And I'm telling you right now, guys, because,
• 32:30
  Speaker 9: you know, a lot of people were pumped. They're like, oh,
• 32:31
  Speaker 9: my God, they put up, you know, Oregon State put
• 32:33
  Speaker 9: up this many points and blah, blah, blah. Guys, these
• 32:36
  Speaker 9: guys have been running around for their life the whole time.
• 32:38
  Speaker 9: But at the same time, they're playing the highest statistic
• 32:40
  Speaker 9: team in the nation on top five on paper.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Like they're going to score points. They're going to get yards.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 32:46
  Speaker 9: So I think, you know, for Washington State to even
• 32:48
  Speaker 9: match up with that team, I think you did a
• 32:51
  Speaker 9: great job.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: All right. Let's wrap it up with this. We got
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: a Boise state coming into town, Alex. This is about
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: as good a test as you're going to get. Although,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, at the end of the day, Wazoo's play teams.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Kansas state and, and Arizona, Washington,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: God knows. I mean, listen, Washington's better than their record.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Like they, like just have more talent than their record.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, they, whatever their issues are. I mean, but
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: you know, we can kind of see glimpses of that
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: along the way. So here comes Boise state. I, I
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: don't have any doubt that, especially with Eshelman now, Alex,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: that the Cougs can play with these guys. What's it
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: going to take to pull off a massive upset?
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's going to hang on the defense
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: again to really match up. The Boise State leans into
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: that running game with Dylan Riley and Sire Gaines. And,
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: you know, Coug defense, I mean, that's, To me, that's
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: kind of their strength is the front seven and the
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: safety is the way they tackle. So I think it
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: could be a good matchup in that regard. And the
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: defense needs to, again, play their best football. One of
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: the things that popped up for me against Oregon State
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: was the defenses nowadays, and I get it, but they
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: kind of get in these rotations where they rotate a
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: lot of guys into the two and three deep at
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: certain positions. I get it at D-line where you're getting
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: banged up and you need it, but They got in
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: trouble last week rotating at the corner position. That's really
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: where that big play happened. You got your backup corner
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: on one of the best receivers in the country, and
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: he just runs right by him.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: So I think they need to get the best 11
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: on the field at all times against Boise State and
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: keep them there. And there can be a little bit
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: of rotation in the two deep, especially in the front seven,
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: but you need your best 11 on the field if
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: you're going to beat them.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: So the defense has got to play solid.
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: And then offensively, they got to find what the mix
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: is to mk's point about like where do the explosive
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: plays come from they got one from ganesh and worthy
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: last week that was great obviously eshelman can use his
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: legs there's a guy like trey lechner at the tight
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: end position show up now that he's healthier and you
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: know so where do they find the explosives because they
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: can they can move the ball on the boise defense
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: but that team kind of chokes you out because of
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: their physical.
• 34:46
  Speaker 9: Nature yeah and i'm telling you right now i watched
• 34:49
  Speaker 9: this i watched the oregon boise game and That defensive
• 34:52
  Speaker 9: front for Boise, they get after it. So I'm a
• 34:55
  Speaker 9: little worried about how they line up against this Washington
• 34:58
  Speaker 9: State front. But, you know, offensively, you know, they put
• 35:01
  Speaker 9: up 200 yards pass and another 200 on the ground too. So,
• 35:04
  Speaker 9: you know, that's– I think Washington State, if they come
• 35:08
  Speaker 9: to play, this is going to be a very good
• 35:10
  Speaker 9: game because Boise State is probably going to come into
• 35:12
  Speaker 9: this thinking they're going to beat the crap out of
• 35:13
  Speaker 9: Washington State. And Washington State loves being the underdog, right?
• 35:16
  Speaker 9: So I think, you know, there's something to say. And
• 35:18
  Speaker 9: Boise State is going to travel well. So you're probably
• 35:20
  Speaker 9: going to see a lot of blue in that Pullman Stadium.
• 35:24
  Speaker 9: So I don't know. I'm excited about it.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: It's on your defense, MK. Don't worry, I'll be texting
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: you Saturday night. Blame your damn defense. Because that's what
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: it's going to throw for three bills. And I'm going
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: to be blaming the defense. And MK is going to
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: be all he'd be flying up and back to Maple
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Valley looking for me.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, man, I'm going to come straight for the mayor.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Love it.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: All right, fellas, let's wrap it up. MK, we'll stay
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: with you. Let's let's get some house loans paid off.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Credit paid off. What are we going to do in here?
• 35:55
  Speaker 9: Guys, listen, man, if you're looking to either purchase a house, refinance,
• 35:58
  Speaker 9: access equity, whatever you need, mortgage related, reach out to
• 36:01
  Speaker 9: Team Bruce. And then also, if you want a gym,
• 36:04
  Speaker 9: I've got a really, really cool gym my wife and
• 36:06
  Speaker 9: I own over in Maple Valley.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: It's called the Buffalo Gym. Come check us out.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: All right, Alex, get me some shoes.
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, check out the shoes. Check out Osaka.com, O-S-A-G-A-M. It's
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: a fun project. My brother and I have been working
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: on Revive, my grandfather's shoe brand from the 1970s. Retro
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: kind of runners, super comfortable. MK works out in them
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: at the Buffalo gym, so he can test how comfortable
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: they are.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Osaga.com.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're a shoe guy, go check out that website.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: It's phenomenal.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: It's really cool. Some good stuff there along the way.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Guys, great stuff.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: We'll talk to you next week.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Go Cougs.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Go Cougs.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: That's Alex. That's MK. We'll come back. Daily Power Play
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: 145 Lund at 2 o'clock on 93.3 KJRFM.
• 36:59
  Speaker 7: Now your daily look at the National Hockey League and
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: the Seattle Kraken with Ian Furness.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Daily Power Play, your home for the Kraken, 93.3 KJFM, Esquahana, Kubota.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Big thanks to them. Kraken tonight taking on the Detroit
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Red Wings, second meeting of the year, second and final
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: meeting of the year, and it'll be at 640, drop
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: of the puck. Remember the earlier start now at Climate
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Pledge Arena. Doors open at 510. And when they open
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: at 510, if you get there early, enjoy $ 3 draft
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: beers and $ 3 hot dogs for the first 60 minutes
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: after the doors open at all Monday through Thursday games.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know about that until I read this
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: the other day. Lucky you, folks. Lucky you.
• 37:36
  Speaker 10: Ian and I have to work. $ 3 draft beers.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: My goodness.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: What section are you in? 20. Come see Mikey in
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Section 20 with about four or five of those $ 3 beers.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: The table is wide open. Come on, sit by me.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Is this a third Jersey night?
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 37:54
  Speaker 10: Backdrop right behind Lane Lambert. All ironclad with bold black.
• 38:02
  Speaker 10: Light blue. He had the hoodie on, the hat on.
• 38:05
  Speaker 10: Guys were in their third Jersey buckets as well.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Let's go, Ian.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Good times.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: I like $ 3 beers.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: I'm going to need three or four. Major turn of
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: the conversation. I'm going to need three or four of
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: those $ 3 beers tonight.
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: Sorry, that's the part I heard. Is that not what
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: we were focusing on?
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: That's what I heard. Third Jersey night.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Johnny did take a shot. He goes, oh yeah, he
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: gets like eight of those.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: $ 3 beers and third Jersey.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: Threes.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Threes. Let me just take a quick path away from
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: hockey for a second, Mikey. Because I do want to
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: mention this. I'm not going to get to it otherwise.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Shout out and welcome to Seattle to Nick Cope. who
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: is the new play-by-play voice of Husky men's basketball and
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: their new director of broadcasting as well. So he's got
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: to do all, basically he's got to make sure that
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Elise and Softie are in line. So Godspeed to you.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Good luck.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: And that's an impossible job, but no, in all seriousness, welcome.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: He just got hired to take on UW's men's basketball,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: comes from UCLA and some other places, but welcome to
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Seattle to, to Nick Cope, who is the new director
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: of broadcasting for the hockey, for the Huskies. Again, I'm not,
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: it's not hockey, but I just want to say that
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: cause I'm not going to get to it otherwise, but yeah,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: You know what it's like to be the new guy
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: in town, so away you go. Congratulations to Nick. Joining
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: a nice circle in town here. Okay, so tonight, Kraken, Detroit. Mikey,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: what did you learn this morning?
• 39:18
  Speaker 10: It might be the last time we see a guy
• 39:20
  Speaker 10: wearing 71 on a white and red helmet here in Seattle.
• 39:24
  Speaker 10: Because Dylan Larkin could be traded reportedly as early as
• 39:27
  Speaker 10: next week. that's we got traded today just go away
• 39:31
  Speaker 10: imagine just go away today he's the best player well
• 39:33
  Speaker 10: one of the best brink is probably the best player
• 39:35
  Speaker 10: but he's a.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Good player that would help the penalty kill uh he
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: would help it tonight In general terms, when they come
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: home tonight, people going to the game, people watching on
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: TV or listening on the radio to you guys, a
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: 3-1-1 road trip is outstanding. It means not much if
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: you come home and don't take care of business at home.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: If you come home getting 7 of 10 points on
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: the road and a long road trip... when you're also
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: on the road for a long, long time, you went
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: through Tampa Bay as well, you're feeling pretty good about yourself,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: unless you had your doors blown off 8-3 by the
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Florida Panthers back on Saturday. And there's nobody that we
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: talked to, that I talked to, anyone else did, that
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: came away with 100% satisfaction. And if you were talking
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: to Lane Lambert this morning, like me, you'd get one
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: sense that He is dialed in with intensity. He wants
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: this game. I think that's the difference between this coach
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: and previous coaches is he understands the bigger picture, but
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: also understands the micro. Like he understands the task at
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: hand daily. You know, I thought it was interesting after
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: that loss because, you know, they lost Saturday and we're
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: doing the post game. I'm sure you're doing the same thing.
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: There's college football going on, and people are kind of like, whatever.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: They probably tuned out when it was 5-1 or something.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: But his intensity and understanding, and even though they lost
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: and had a great road trip, he was still not satisfied,
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: and I love that. Because this is how I equate
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: a road trip in hockey, and I think maybe even
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: if you're talking about basketball, right? I think it's a
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: lot like a series in baseball. If you have a
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: five-game trip, You're not going to win. You'd love to
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: win all five, much like if you have a four-game,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: three-game series in baseball. You'd love to get a sweep.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: You just want to win the series. Just win the series.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: If you look at the Mariners, what was their issue
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: this year? They didn't win enough series. You go on
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: the road. And against the right teams also. And I
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: know the hockey teams, and this team specifically, goes by
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: a 10-game segment. So this will be game 10 tonight.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: But to me, going on the road for five. Did
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: you win the five? They did. They were 3-1-1. That's
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: a hell of a road trip. They had won the
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: road trip already heading into Florida. Now you come home
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: and you have, what is it, one, two, three, four
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: games at home before you go a little dance up
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: to Calgary. So you got the next four. So those
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: next four, go 3-1. Like, go 3-1. You go 3-1,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: you feel pretty good.
• 41:52
  Speaker 10: I don't want to look too far ahead here, but
• 41:55
  Speaker 10: this is where you have to, and they say this
• 41:57
  Speaker 10: a lot in this business, make a lot of hay.
• 42:00
  Speaker 10: Bank a lot of points. Six of your next seven
• 42:03
  Speaker 10: before going to Finland. are all here in Seattle. You
• 42:07
  Speaker 10: have 22 games coming up until about roughly a week
• 42:10
  Speaker 10: before Christmas. Take the Finland trip out. There's only 20
• 42:15
  Speaker 10: games that you're, there's 20 games roughly that you are
• 42:18
  Speaker 10: playing around these parts, if not for roughly an hour
• 42:21
  Speaker 10: and a half plane ride or less. The travel's a
• 42:25
  Speaker 10: lot lighter now for the next roughly two months.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: By the way, are you going to Finland?
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: I am.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: They're letting you go to Finland.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Do you have a passport?
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Do you have a passport? Are they going to let
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: you back? Right back in my bag.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: That's a good question. What's that?
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: Are they going to let you back here, though?
• 42:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Are you allowed back in the country? Like, have you
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: checked on that?
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: Or are you just allowed one way to Finland?
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Have you checked on that?
• 42:44
  Speaker 10: Are you saying that there's some kind of a nefarious
• 42:46
  Speaker 10: deed going on? Mikey, I know you've got some skeletons.
• 42:49
  Speaker 10: I know that they're deep down. There are some skeletons
• 42:51
  Speaker 10: in your world. Five and a half years, they find
• 42:52
  Speaker 10: a way to kick me to the curb and they
• 42:53
  Speaker 10: do it overseas. That's... We got back to town. Where's
• 42:59
  Speaker 10: the captain?
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: We lost him.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: We left him in the bento box. Captain's left at sea.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: What happened? Listen, that responsibility is strictly on Alan and
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Fitz to make sure that you're taken care of over there.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: That's cool as hell that you're going over there.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: That's awesome.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: I have never been overseas, period. It's going to be
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: a blast. Again, I think the bigger question, like Ashley said,
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: is are you going to be allowed back? So tonight,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: broadcast time is?
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: 6 p.m.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Puck drop at 640, so extra long pregame show. Yeah,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: how do you like the second one, right? The second
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: long pregame?
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 43:29
  Speaker 10: So, the fun thing about this is that, A, it
• 43:32
  Speaker 10: gives us more time to breathe here for some stuff
• 43:33
  Speaker 10: that we want to get to with Lane Lambert and elsewhere,
• 43:36
  Speaker 10: but also, you know, there's a lot of great conversations
• 43:39
  Speaker 10: and great storylines that we usually don't get a chance
• 43:42
  Speaker 10: to dive into because you have time constraints, yada yada,
• 43:44
  Speaker 10: and you gotta hit all corners, and everything here. We
• 43:48
  Speaker 10: have a great one-on-one that I planned with Mackie Samuskevich.
• 43:50
  Speaker 10: And there's some feelings, some thought of the trip was great,
• 43:57
  Speaker 10: but they can do more. They want to do more.
• 43:59
  Speaker 10: By the way, if practice told us something, there's not
• 44:02
  Speaker 10: a lot of satisfaction with how things ended on that
• 44:04
  Speaker 10: trip with their top six. And you're going to see
• 44:07
  Speaker 10: maybe a switch if those lines from practice hold up,
• 44:09
  Speaker 10: meaning Mackie Samuskevich, who was with Manny Beneers, Now it
• 44:13
  Speaker 10: goes to Chandler Stevenson's line, and he had a lot
• 44:16
  Speaker 10: of great things to say as far as how he
• 44:17
  Speaker 10: felt with.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Them on day one.
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  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Earlier dinner for you then tonight. Got to have to
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: squeeze it in here somehow.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: That's the captain. As long as I get my food.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Network Central is, again, section 20 tonight. Open for fist bumps.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Open for gifts. Open the tables wide open. Go see
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Mikey on your interview at the game tonight and say yo.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: All right. Gifts are not required.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Sure they are. Why not?
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: Gifts?
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Mikey is a man of the people. You can just
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: go up and walk up to him and say hello.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: We have security. Never assumed, always appreciated. Can't see Alan Fitz.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you that. Those two guys are too big
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: for that stuff. All right. That's it. That's the Captain
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Network Central tonight, 6 o'clock. Join them for the pregame show.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: We'll take a break.
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: Come back.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Don't forget, it's Kraken Ticket Tuesday on Sports Radio 93.3 KJFM.
• 45:00
  Speaker 7: It's time for Ian's weekly visit with John Lund, Unleashed,
• 45:04
  Speaker 7: the Bay Area rock star who Ian's been kicking around
• 45:08
  Speaker 7: for a couple of decades. They'll be talking NFC West,
• 45:11
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• 45:28
  Speaker 2: With barbecues, Car seats, tables, and couches.
• 45:31
  Speaker 7: Now attempting to keep the 49ers stocked to a minimum,
• 45:34
  Speaker 7: here's John Lund with Ian.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: We'll get to Lund and the 49ers in a second.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: I want to tell you our friends at Chambers Bay Distillery,
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• 45:44
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• 45:46
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• 45:48
  Speaker 2: right next to it as well, which I kind of
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: love Trader Joe's. But you go into Chambers Bay Distillery
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: tasting room, and you can have trivia night tonight. People
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: love trivia nights. Ashley, you ever do Trivia Night?
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: Love Trivia Night.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: Trivia Night's Tuesdays at Chambers Bay Distilleries Tasting Room. Get
• 46:03
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• 46:06
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• 46:10
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• 46:14
  Speaker 2: can't get that at Total Wine and the other places.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Only available at the tasting room. I have sampled it
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  Speaker 2: before and passed the past editions of it. And the
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• 46:28
  Speaker 3: You i got some trivia for you who's got a
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: three game lead plus plus over the seahawks and a
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: four game plus lead over the rams because they beat
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: the seahawks and the rams who is six and oh
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: who who would that be uh five seconds Four, three, two.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Let me think.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: I told you he was going to be insufferable.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: Come on. What's the answer?
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: 6-0.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: 6-0, bro.
• 46:59
  Speaker 8: Looked ugly in the second half.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: I don't care. It looks like Mike Evans.
• 47:05
  Speaker 8: Feet are going to fall off.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Don't care.
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: 6-0, bro.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: 6-0. Good afternoon.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: How are you? First, we'll get back.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: You sound exasperated already. You sound exhausted and exasperated already.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Well, you know why? Because I listened to your show
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: for a while driving in today, and it's exhausting.
• 47:25
  Speaker 8: Why?
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: What are you talking about? Well, first of all, the
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: name of the show is Fair and Biased. Now, half
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: of it's true. Half of it's true. The first part,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's true. Let me explain how
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: things work. Let me explain this right now. We can
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: make fun of Russell Wilson. You can't. All right. That's
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: how it works.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: That's when you tuned in.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I can't.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: What was I talking about? Oh, I was just, I
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: don't know. I was crushing him for some reason.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: He's one of the top 10 passers of all time.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: That's right. Yeah. Yeah.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: So is Jimmy G. Everybody up here.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: Is all excited because Brock Purdy's in the top 10
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: and of passer rating of all time, which is a
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: pretty flawed stat, but like the first five guys are
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: all hall of famers, right? So Brock's at the top,
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: I think it's like one Oh 5.3 or something. And
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: then the number, then it starts to be like the
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: Sean Watson, Russell Wilson, Jimmy Garoppolo is in the top 10.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: So I said, look, it's a, it's a good stat.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: It's not bad being at the top of it, but like,
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: you know, Brady's maybe 15. Manning is like 18.
• 48:22
  Speaker 8: Stevie Young is like 20.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Like it's not the catch all end all because I
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: started reading off names and then there was, had to
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: be some Seahawks fans or somebody from Washington.
• 48:30
  Speaker 8: And they're like, Russell Wilson was a.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: Really good quarterback. I'm like, he's a corn ball. He's like,
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: come on, get out of here. And people were like
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: getting mad at me because I, and I was like,
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: he's insufferable on CBS. Like he's already wearing a Niners hat.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: Like he's totally sold out.
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: Come on.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Give me a break.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: I thought you would defend my stance on Russell Wilson.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: He's corny.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Do people like him up there?
• 48:50
  Speaker 8: Do people like Russell Wilson up there?
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: No, but this is like your sibling. You can beat
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: him up or you can make fun of him, but
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: nobody else can. He's our Super Bowl winning quarterback.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: Okay, I get that.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Then after I told you that, I thought, what am
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: I doing? It's Russell.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Hey Seattle, we got a deal. Yeah, but he's.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: Our, but you did, you texted me and defended him.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: And that's exactly what you said. You said, I can't
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: make fun of him.
• 49:20
  Speaker 8: It's kind of like, We've talked about this before, like
• 49:23
  Speaker 8: Candlestick Park.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: It's a dump, but it's my dump. You can't make
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: fun of it.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: I know, because when I did make fun of it,
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: I had people coming at me on social media from
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: down there. There's some anger, like some really true anger
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: coming at me from your listeners. Like very angry people
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: down there. Probably the same people that wanted to stab
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: us in the neck when we went to games there.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: It's the same group.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: How dare you identify yourself as a station from Seattle?
• 49:48
  Speaker 8: You shouldn't do that.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Those people are not allowed in Santa Clara, right? That group,
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: that old San Francisco group, they're not allowed in Santa Clara.
• 49:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't think they made the trek. I don't
• 50:00
  Speaker 8: think they made the trek.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: What was funny was back years ago, Niner fans in
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: Candlestick Park were kind of labeled as the wine and
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: cheese crowd. I was like, have you ever been to
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: a Niner's Candlestick Park?
• 50:14
  Speaker 8: Not exactly the wine and cheese crowd.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Not exactly. I'll give you guys credit for this. I
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: think that The tailgating at Levi's Stadium is really good. Yeah,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: it's really good. We drive in through there, and I'm like, man,
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: it just smells good. They've got a lot of stuff cooking.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: It's actually legit tailgating. It's weird having a stadium that
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: has a parking lot around it. That's kind of cool. But, yeah,
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: they do a good job with that. And I did
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: notice that people were actually at the game last night.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: They weren't all leaving at halftime and not coming back.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: So that's a positive for you guys.
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: No, that's L.A., That's L.A. We don't do that.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: You do on the one side. Oh, it's too hot
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: over here. Oh, the sun's setting on.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Like, stop it.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Stop it.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: I will say, I've told this story to you, but...
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: they built the stadium where one side is too hot.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: One side's fine, but the other side gets sun. And I,
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: I always laughed about it. So I had a, I
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: had a listener one time say, okay, I have a
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: suite over there. You can come in. And after, you know,
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: I had to fight my way through like, dude, you
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: can't go into a suite. What are you insane? You
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: don't look like a sweet kind of guy. So I
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: go in there and they said, if you can sit
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: in this, there was like a leather chair there. And
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: they said, if you can sit in that leather chair
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: for five minutes, I'll give you a hundred bucks. And
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: I go and sit on that chair and it was like,
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: you know how you get into it?
• 51:32
  Speaker 8: Like you used to when it wasn't like leather, it
• 51:34
  Speaker 8: was like.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: A vinyl thing growing up like a car. Like we
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: had that cheap kind of stuff in our car and
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: you would sit on that thing. It would be like,
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: you know, it's black and it would just, it was
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: like sitting on the surface of the sun. That's what
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: it was like. And I sat there for about one minute,
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: and I got no chance. I don't know what it is.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: It's just how they built the stadium. But people do complain,
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: but it's legit.
• 51:52
  Speaker 8: You can't even sit in some of.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: Those chairs on the one side.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. Our stadium's the same way. It faces east
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: and west, and we don't have problems with it here.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: You guys are just soft down there in the old
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: Silicon Valley. And you have a three-and-a-half game.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Lead, I know.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: And you have a three-and-a-half game lead, so whatever. I
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: guess you can say whatever you want right now.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: That's fine.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: A 6-0 is the better way to say it. Undefeated.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: And Minnesota's not for real, so they're really the only
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: undefeated team in.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: The NFC, to be honest. That's it.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: 100%.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with you more. All right, John Lund
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: joining us. Don't forget, they've got trivia night tonight, 7
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: o'clock at the Tasting Room in the town center there
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: on Bridgeport in University Place. Okay, what's going on with
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Mike Evans? His legs really did fall off.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Is he done?
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: We don't have to look at the big No. 5 anymore,
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: dominating Josh Jobe?
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: Well, you know what's crazy about it? You know how
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: it is.
• 52:41
  Speaker 8: So you don't want to freak your fan base out.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: But you don't want to be blowing smoke. And I'm
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: just like, did anybody watch that game? It was like,
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: you know, he's like limping down the sidelines when he
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: caught the one big one. And as far as I
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: can remember, like anytime they start talking about an Achilles,
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: it's just kind of a ticking time.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: Bomb, right?
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: So like Dre Greenlaw ripped his in the Super Bowl
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: against Kansas City a couple of years ago in Las Vegas.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: And we knew that he had an injury like that.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: It was just kind of, you know, what happened? Kevin
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: Durant had one for the Warriors. It happened. George Kittle had,
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: you know, it wasn't just that thing just blew there.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: He had an Achilles issue before that and it blew
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: out last year. So like everyone that I can remember,
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: then that's what I was talking about. And I was
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: getting like death threats today. Like you're going to will
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: this into existence. He's his Achilles going to blow. I'm like,
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: are you kidding me? I'm giving you example after example,
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: after example, like this, this doesn't generally get better until
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: the next year. you know, so, and you saw the difference.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: They had 303 yards of offense in the first half
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: with Mike Evans in the second half, they had 72,
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: their last three drives are all three and outs. They
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: had a total of seven yards. I mean, he, you
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: guys saw it in Seattle. I mean, he's made that
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: big of a difference to the 49ers, even at the
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: age of 33, he just, he's another guy that you
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: can have an advantage and get open. And they really
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: haven't had a number one receiver, a true number one
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: receiver under Kyle Shannon. They've drafted guys like Pearsall who
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: can't stay healthy or, you know, number of different guys,
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: but Debo is not a true one. Iuke wasn't a
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: true one, like a real legit, like what Seattle has
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: in JSN. They don't, they've never really had.
• 54:14
  Speaker 8: One of those.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: And so to have Mike Evans with Kittle with CMC,
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's, that's some legit firepower. And once Evans
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: went out last night, that was huge. So the thing
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: that in all honesty could derail them is, I don't
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: know enough to be caught by the Rams or the Seahawks,
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: but to not have Mike Evans, they may have to
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: do a major addition by the trade deadline.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, so what do you do? I've heard and seen
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: the same thing. I think it's an interesting dynamic because
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: in Seattle, there was talk, well, do you go out
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: and get Saquon Barkley?
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Because Philadelphia and probably if you're him, you'd want to
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: just get out because you could die and they'll still
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: make you go play. So it doesn't matter, right? With
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: their great medical staff. But to me, it doesn't make
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: sense because you've already invested a first-round pick in Jadarian
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Price in your six games into his rookie year. And yeah,
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: he hasn't played. He's hurt right now. But you don't
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: give up on that equity and that investment that early, right?
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: But the NFL does have the sense of urgency that
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: no other league has. No other league has a sense
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: of urgency, right? Where Boy, we better flip the script.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: So do you go out and get a guy? Who
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: are you guys talking about? Keenan Allen? Does that help
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: the 49ers?
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe a little. Well, the difference versus the Seattle
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: situation is Debo's going to come back.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: Are you sure? Because last we saw Debo face down,
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: not moving on the turf at Lumen Field. So we're
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: all worried about Debo.
• 55:37
  Speaker 8: Being a drama queen, you know, he'll be fine.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: All right. But you know, they've got Christian Kirk possibly coming.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying these are great guys, but I, you know,
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: I don't think they need to go out for example,
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: and go get a Garrett Wilson from the jets for
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: a first or, you know, a high pick. I just,
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: I don't see that they're going to get that aggressive. Um,
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: they could on the defensive line, even though they've gotten better,
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: they're really young on the defensive line, but they played
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: well in Seattle. Whereas I think, you know, just what
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: you just said though, is 100% right. These windows in
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: the NFL are really, really short. Like a couple of
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: years ago, Philadelphia looked like they were going to be juggernaut.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: Look at them now. You know, it just, it goes
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: by so fast that when you can win multiple Superbowls
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: and nobody needs to tell people in Seattle like that,
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: you should have won two and then it was over.
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: So you hit it right on the head is that
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: when you have an opportunity to win this thing, And
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: I'm speaking for Seattle, and so what do I know?
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: But when you look at Jadarian Price, it's not that
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to be a good back
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: at some point, but if you can go out and
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: get potentially a Saquon Barkley who's got time left or
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: a Jonathan Taylor because of the Colts, I think you're
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: going to blow things up up there. Do you do
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: that because you need help right now and you need
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: to get into this thing? You guys, I'm sure, have
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: been talking about it a ton, but the way Darnold's
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: playing and the offense is lacking playmakers outside of JSN,
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: do you just ride this thing out or do you
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: try to save the season and fix the offense? How
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: much longer is your defense going to be elite? It's
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: an awesome defense. I hate to admit it, but it's
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: better than what the 49ers have and they need offensive firepower.
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: So that's, you know, that's kind of the 49ers are different.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: The difference with the Seahawks and the Niners right now
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: is the Seahawks won a Superbowl. And so if you
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: want to go back.
• 57:11
  Speaker 8: To like Russell Wilson, yeah, you should have that second.
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: One, but at least you won one. Think about this.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan has lost two Super Bowls to Kansas City.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: They lost an NFC championship game when Joukowsky dropped an
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: interception that would have put them in the Super Bowl
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: against the Bengals. You know, Brock Purdy's arm fell off
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: in the NFC championship game against Philadelphia. They feel like
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: they should have won at least a couple of Super Bowls.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: And through Kyle's tenure here, they've had four really good
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: opportunities to And they've won none. So they're desperate here.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: I could see them giving up a first-round pick, a
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: second-round pick to bring in Khalil Mack. I could see
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: them going hard after a receiver because they haven't won
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: a championship here since 1994, which is forever ago. Steve
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: Young was the MVP. So they're desperate here. I don't
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: know if Seattle's desperate enough. to get two in a row, or,
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: you know, what John Schneider's thinking there. But down here,
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: they're desperate. They're going to go all in.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if they would be desperate here,
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: but there's definitely a sense of urgency. You know, you
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: can kind of tell in the news conferences. I mean,
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: because they have a chance for history to go back-to-back, which,
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: as we know, is really hard to do. I mean,
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: we know that worse than anybody how hard it is
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: to do, unfortunately. But, I mean, listen, I think all
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: three teams could make that argument in this division that
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: are still in contention. And the other one would be,
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, think about the Rams.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: Like you came into this season with the thought that
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: you're going to be not just a playoff team, but
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: you're going to be a team that is thinking, you know, 15, 16,
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: God forbid, 17 wins. And now you're sitting there with
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: four losses. Like that is, and the math doesn't math.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: Like Seattle probably is not going to catch the 49ers.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: That's almost, I mean, it would take a catastrophic fall.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: The Rams definitely aren't going to catch the 49ers because
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: they're four and a half, basically five games back with
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: 11 to play or whatever it is. So you can
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: start looking through here, John. I mean, to me, like
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: the Rams are the desperate team. They invested all that
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: How's Miles Garrett paid off for him so far? He hasn't.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: And they're talking about putting Ty Simpson in there in
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: the games down there.
• 59:15
  Speaker 8: Come on. Plus, here's the other thing.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Real quick, you kind of foreshadowed the Stafford thing, if
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, at the start of the year. You
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: covered him in Detroit and you kind of said, hey,
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: there may be some issues here.
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: Well, I think he's more banged up than what people
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: are saying. I mean, if anybody watched the game against
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: the Cardinals, he's not right.
• 59:37
  Speaker 8: I mean, I'm not making excuses for the guy, just,
• 59:40
  Speaker 8: you know, he's not right.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: And so that's going on. And like you said, if
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: they're going to have to put in Ty Simpson, that's
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: the end of that. You know, we all know you
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: can have a great team. If your quarterback's not performing,
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: you know, then you're in trouble. You got to have one.
• 59:52
  Speaker 8: And so I think that that's part of the.
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: Deal with the Rams. They've got a lot of injury
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: issues now, but you know, Kobe Turner just went down.
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: Devontae Adams is out for a long time. That's what
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: happens with older players.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 8: But the big thing that I see, and I got
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 8: no insight into LA.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: I'm just both you and I've been doing this for
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: a really long time. The frustration that, uh, that Sean
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: McVay is showing our favorite person. Sean McVay continually shows
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: after games and how he's, you know, he did that
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: 60 minute interview where he said, you know, you just
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: can't let things go. He's a high burnout guy. You
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: can tell, you know, those burnout coaches, you see him
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: a lot in the NBA, Larry Brown and all these
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: different guys, Harbaugh, Jim Harbaugh is that way. They're short
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: termers and they're, they're, they're guys like Kyle Shanahan is
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: a lifer. Mike McDonald to me seems like a lifer.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: Sean McVay is a short guy, short term guy. I
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: would not be shocked in the slightest. In fact, I
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: expect it that he's in a TV booth next year
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: and he'll come back, but I think he needs like
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: a two or three year break. He just, he just
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: wears it so hard. And then his answer to everything
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: is just to go harder. And it doesn't work like that.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: Even Kyle Shanahan gives his staff half of a Friday
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: off and they go see their family. That's a big
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: deal to him, and he learned that from his dad.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: I think Sean McVay is going to be gone. I
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: think after this year, Sean McVay is going to be gone,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: especially if things keep going like they're going.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: They could fall off the face of the earth. pretty
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: easy after this show. Stafford retires, McVay goes to a broadcast.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, the whole thing with who knows what's going
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: to happen with ESPN and Troy Aikman. Apparently, he doesn't
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: like people or something. He doesn't like his partner. And McVay,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: although McVay doing TV with that voice, I don't know, man.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, I know. It's all on me.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: It's all on me.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: I'd rather listen to Russell Wilson.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's a great poll question for you guys. I
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: don't know. Russ is tough. Russ's corn ball is tough,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: but you're right. He talks a million miles a minute.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: He's pretty, he's annoying in general.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 8: But he just, I don't know.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: They seem to be fighting all over him. And like,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: you brought up a great point. Like Aikman's going to
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: be gone. You know, they've talked about like McAfee or,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: you know, or they've talked Thursday night with, with McVay
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: or whatever. Like there's going to be some shuffling if
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: people care about that kind of stuff.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: And I don't know.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: I just, if you can make logic would tell you
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: who knows, I don't know Sean McVay, but if you
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: can make 20 million bucks, And all the guys that
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: have been, like Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin was quoted last week.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: It was hilarious. They said, how are you liking it
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: so far, Mike? And he said, part-time work for full-time pay.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's loving it. They never thought, oh, he's
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: going to go back to coaching. And he might someday.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: But he's making a ton of money, hardly working. I mean,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: that's a pretty good gig.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: I do like these guys that jump into that world
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: and they think that that's what media is. Like you
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: work one day a week.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, right. Exactly.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 8: You've got to have an intern.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: You've got handlers everywhere. They've got a car service waiting
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: for you to get you to and from the stadium. Yeah,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: for you, Mike, it is part-time.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: For you, it is.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: You're not doing a daily poll question like Lund does,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: and he spells it P-O-L-E, by the way.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: That's people, Joe.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 8: That's not me.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: I'm much brighter than that. I blame other people.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 7: I didn't do that.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: That's 100%.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Who do the 49ers have this week? Who are you
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: guys going to go beat this week?
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: They might lose this one because I think Mike Evans
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: isn't going to play and then they've got a bye
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: week after that. That would give him until November 8th
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: when they play the Raiders. They're at the Falcons. This
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: is one of those games where I think they might
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: lose actually. This is just one of those weird games
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: in the middle of the year where you're like, Everyone
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: expects them to win. You know, you play the win-loss
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: game and you get the schedule out, win-win, loss, whatever.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: This would probably, this might be a loss because I
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: think Mike Evans is going to be out. I think
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: that they're going to rest some guys because the bye week,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: like Nick Bosa could probably come back, but they're going
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: to extend it out one more game. And then after
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: the bye week, probably bring them back. So that's, like
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: I said, that's November 8th. So these guys can get
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: some rest for down the stretch. So I think they
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: might hold some guys out. They've got a lead. I mean,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: you guys stink, the Rams stink. So they're actually going
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: to just, you know, play with the game during the year.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: That's nice, huh? You've already used up all your mulligans there.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: So you're basically the NFL version of the NBA, just
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: load management game in Atlanta is what you're telling us?
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it might be. I think it might be.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: But not your guy Christian McCaffrey who's all of a
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: sudden red hot.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: I didn't need it last night, but I know what's
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: going to happen. He's going to be the guy that
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: gets rested on Sunday against Atlanta. That's 100% what's going
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: to happen.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: No, he's going to be like the only guy they have.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, like last night– last night, the Washington just
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: brought the blitz the whole second half. Cause they're like,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: we don't believe you. And they just, they overloaded towards
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: Kittle and McCaffrey Evans got three for 94 in the
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: first half, every other wide receiver, not named Mike Evans.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: They had two catches for 35 yards. Like you guys
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: are used to that. My God with JSN, but I mean,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: they have, they don't have any receivers. What do you think?
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: Any receiver with no Devante Adams, Puka Nakua is going
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: to get targeted 40 times. He had targeted 23 with
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: a healthy Devontae Adams. Can you imagine with no Devontae Adams?
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: He's going to get 40 targets a game.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: That is going to be amazing.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: No one else even needs to show up. They're three
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: tight ends just staying in block. And we'll just have
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: Puka Nakua go against their entire secondary. That's all that
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: Stafford does.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: What's going to happen, though, in the next couple of
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: weeks when he does some weird sicko stuff again, you know,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: bites another female or does some other gross, disgusting thing because.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: He's a black.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: Seriously. And then, like, the NFL goes, OK, listen, that's enough.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: You're going to go away for a while. And then
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden they got nobody.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you're McVeigh, you've got to know that
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: ticking time bomb is going to happen with that weirdo. So, like,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: I'd be worried about them.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 6: So.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: We have no worries. We have no worries in Seattle.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: No questions about the quarterback.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: Nothing.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: We're all good up here. We're all good up here.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: Sam's good.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: You're not going to Drew Locke?
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, man. Sam's good.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: Well, he played.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: Sam's good. Shut up. Sam's good. Big thanks to Chambers
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: Bay Distillery. ChambersBayDistillery.com. They got trivia night tonight at 7
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: in the tasting room there in the town center off Bridgeport.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: Head on down there. And, of course, the big thing now,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Captain's Reserve is out, as we told you earlier. Only
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: available in the tasting room. It is fantastic. If you
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: actually get a good address... For my man, Alan, you're
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: going to get some good stuff down there, but you've
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: got to figure– you are not the brightest light. I'm
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: just going to tell you that right now.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: I sent you guys an address, but I saw something
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: where you're like, business address. There's rules. What are you
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: talking about?
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll be sipping the brown water.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: You'll be.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: Sipping the swill that they have in the Bay Area.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: I'll come up there. I'll just come get it and
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: put it in my suitcase.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: That's a threat.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: That's illegal, right?
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: Nobody wants that.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: We'll talk to you next week.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: See you. Bye.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: See you later.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: That's John Lund. He's done. Nobody's way too much one today.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: Made the mistake of listening to the show. Listen, we
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: can make fun of Russ. We can.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: And we do. And we do. Yeah.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: You can't.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: You can't.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: It is hard, though, to not make fun of him.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: He is kind of a goober.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: He just asks for it.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he is kind of a goober. I saw that some...
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: Not kind of. They were going out, did something on
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: location in Vegas. Like, and they took all the CBS
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: people that are on a plane. He's making them do
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: stretches on the plane.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: Oh, God.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: I know. I'm like, oh, God.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: And the One of the people, oh, this is really fun.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: We love traveling with Russ. Ask his teammates. Nobody did.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: Stop it.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: Just stop it. All right. Your talkbacks and Ashley's factor
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: fiction pick next.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: Which might be changing now.