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Mark Belling Podcast #71: A local school bankrolled by conservative donors says no to a Turning Point chapter, the left has gotten so whacked it’s impossible to tell when they’re kidding, Letitia James thinks what’s good for Trump’s goose isn’t good for her own gander · The Mark Belling Podcast

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  Speaker 2: I have a perfect item to start the podcast with today.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things that I've been saying I can't
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  Speaker 2: say forever, but i'd say the last ten years that
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  Speaker 2: I started saying on my radio program, and I said
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  Speaker 2: it all the time, is you can't exaggerate liberalism anymore.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if I come out and say the next thing,
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  Speaker 2: you know they'll do, and then come up with the
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  Speaker 2: craziest possible thing, invariably I will find out that it
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  Speaker 2: in fact is already happening, that it's reality. Anyway. Here's
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  Speaker 2: an example of this. There's a post that appeared on
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  Speaker 2: X over the weekend. It's the poster is an important
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  Speaker 2: other than I'll identify the handle for the poster. There
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  Speaker 2: is to Tania McGrath. And here's the post. My friends
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  Speaker 2: and I have been out all day protesting against this ceasefire.
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  Speaker 2: We demand a ceased fire that wasn't arranged by Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 2: We will never give up the struggle for peace. Now
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  Speaker 2: here's The thing about this, there's all sorts of reaction
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  Speaker 2: to this post, and here's where the reaction is. No
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  Speaker 2: one knows if this is a sarcastic post making fun
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  Speaker 2: of the left, or if it actually is a Lefty
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  Speaker 2: expressing that position. And that is what it's come to.
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  Speaker 2: The left is so extreme that you now don't know
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  Speaker 2: unless you know who the person is individually. You know,
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  Speaker 2: if a Chuck Schumer or something. Unless you know the person,
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  Speaker 2: you don't know if it's somebody pretending to be a
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  Speaker 2: leftist so stupid, or if it actually is a leftist
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  Speaker 2: that is that stupid. There's no way of knowing anymore. Seriously,
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  Speaker 2: how do you even know when they're kidding? Like Schumer
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  Speaker 2: said over the weekend, every day of the shutdown gets better, Well,
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  Speaker 2: that's an odd thing. I'm assuming he meant it. But again,
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  Speaker 2: if you would have put those words in his mouth
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  Speaker 2: to make fun of him, they would have been insulted
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  Speaker 2: that you would. That is what it's come to. You
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  Speaker 2: no longer can tell when the Left is kidding or not,
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  Speaker 2: because everything that they believe in is so crazy that
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  Speaker 2: it sounds like they're kidding even when they're not. So,
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  Speaker 2: Rather than decide whether or not this is real or not.
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  Speaker 2: The more important point is you can no longer tell
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  Speaker 2: there is obviously truth, and they're thinking to this. They
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  Speaker 2: hate the fact, you know, And as you know, I'm
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  Speaker 2: a skeptic as to whether or not this ceasefire can hold. Nonetheless,
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  Speaker 2: if it does, it's an undeniably good thing. They can't
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  Speaker 2: stand good things happening if Trump has anything to do
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  Speaker 2: with that good thing. They'd rather have terrible things. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's just an unbelievable concept. I mean, if Trump walked
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  Speaker 2: up to one of them, See, they're selfish, so this
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't work. Trump walked up to one of them and
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  Speaker 2: gave them a million outs. It turned it down because
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  Speaker 2: of Trump. They would not do that because they're selfish.
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  Speaker 2: But things that don't directly affect them, like world peace
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  Speaker 2: and so on, they're more frosted if Trump brings us peace.
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  Speaker 2: If Trump brought us some terrible war and there was
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  Speaker 2: massive conflict that people were dying, they would be happy
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  Speaker 2: by that because then they could bitch about him. Extraordinary thing. Really, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: they've belonging against. I mean, Obama changed their whole peace thing.
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  Speaker 2: Obama and Killery are warmongers for Heaven's sakes, and we
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  Speaker 2: could dive into the history of all of it. But
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  Speaker 2: enough hift history for the day, although there will certainly
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  Speaker 2: be a segment on Columbus Day as we move forward,
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  Speaker 2: It is certainly not surprising that President Prompe did not
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  Speaker 2: win the Nobel Peace Prize. I said, I don't remember
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  Speaker 2: which podcast it was, maybe Thursday or Wednesdays of last week,
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  Speaker 2: that he's not gonna win the Nobel Peace Prize. They
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  Speaker 2: aren't going to give it to him. It goes back
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  Speaker 2: to the point that we were making in that introductory
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  Speaker 2: sacred here. It doesn't matter how much Trump could somehow
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  Speaker 2: wave a magic wand and war could end forever and
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  Speaker 2: he wouldn't win the Nobel Peace Prize. I think he
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  Speaker 2: really wanted to win it because he's out for ratification
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  Speaker 2: for stuff like this, but it isn't gonna happen. It's
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  Speaker 2: the same chance that a Mel Gibson movie would have
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  Speaker 2: of winning an Academy Award for Best Picture. But that's
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  Speaker 2: not the reason I bring up this segment. Many people
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  Speaker 2: do not know who did win it. Her name is
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  Speaker 2: Maria Coriina Machado. She's deserving. I don't mean like pitted
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  Speaker 2: against Trump or anything, but in less than a vacuum
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  Speaker 2: isolated on herself, she's deserving. She is somebody who has
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  Speaker 2: been advocating for the victims in Venezuela who have suffered
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  Speaker 2: so terribly under communist rule. Anyway, she put out the
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  Speaker 2: following statement after winning the Nobel Peace Prize. This recognition
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  Speaker 2: of the struggle of all Venezuelans is a boost to
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  Speaker 2: conclude our task to conquer freedom. We are on the
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  Speaker 2: threshold of victory, and today, more than ever, we count
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  Speaker 2: on President Trump, the people of the United States, the
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  Speaker 2: peoples of Latin America, and the Democratic nations of the
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  Speaker 2: world as our principal allies to achieve freedom and democracy.
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  Speaker 2: I dedicate this prize to the suffering people of Venezuela
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  Speaker 2: and to President Trump for his decisive support of our cause.
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  Speaker 2: So the woman who did win the Nobel out of
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  Speaker 2: all the leaders of the world, called out Trump for
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  Speaker 2: praise in Trump's push for peace globally without having to
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  Speaker 2: use American military force. I wonder, and I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: because I didn't check every I wonder how widely covered
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  Speaker 2: that component of her statement was given. All I could
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  Speaker 2: see in the media is Trump doesn't win Nobel Peace
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  Speaker 2: for I not even mentioned Trump didn't get it. You
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  Speaker 2: know the term for this when you see the IF
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  Speaker 2: a lot of times they throw out initials and people
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  Speaker 2: don't know what they stand for. TDS is Trump Derangement syndrome,
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  Speaker 2: and it's the explanation for all things in which the
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  Speaker 2: Left has simply lost its mind because of their loathing
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  Speaker 2: over Trump. There's a really interesting story to examine here
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  Speaker 2: that's part of this, and that is Letitia James turning
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  Speaker 2: general New York State. She's now facing criminal charges for
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  Speaker 2: mortgage fraud, which it's pretty clear she did it in
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  Speaker 2: her defense. The crime that she's accused of another prominent
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  Speaker 2: Democrat prosecutor is facing similar charges. Is a crime that's
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  Speaker 2: committed all the time and rarely prosecuted. It's lying in
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  Speaker 2: order to get favorable treatment on your mortgage. But here's
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  Speaker 2: the thing. This crime she's charged with is in the
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  Speaker 2: exact same area as her own. The term is just
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  Speaker 2: so appropriate. Trump up charge against Trump. Trump was criminally
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  Speaker 2: charged for in his loan applications for financing of some
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  Speaker 2: of his properties, that he overstated the underlying value of
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  Speaker 2: the property, which again happens all the time. In order
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  Speaker 2: to justify I'll just use short, smaller numbers to make
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  Speaker 2: it understandable. Let's suppose I'm looking for a five million
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  Speaker 2: dollar loan for some piece of property and I say
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  Speaker 2: it's worth five million. Well, maybe it's assessed that only
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  Speaker 2: two point seven million. That the five million isn't going
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  Speaker 2: to be what it's worth until after I do the
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  Speaker 2: improvements or whatever I think I'm gonna do. Happens all
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  Speaker 2: the time. Here's the thing, though, with regard to this,
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  Speaker 2: and it was a loan via bond holders. This loan
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  Speaker 2: was in the past, and it's been paid off. The
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  Speaker 2: loan's paid off, so there's no victim here, whether or
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  Speaker 2: not Trump overstated the underlying value. Nobody was conned because
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  Speaker 2: they all got their money and their interests back. So
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  Speaker 2: it was simple. And again and all these people they're
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  Speaker 2: going after things for Trump, they're looking for anything because
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  Speaker 2: they can't find anything anything actually illegal. That was Letitia James.
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  Speaker 2: So now in her instance, here we see her doing
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  Speaker 2: something similar, but in this case she actually did it.
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  Speaker 2: There are all these government programs regarded owning of properties.
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  Speaker 2: Some are based on principal residences, some are second residents.
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  Speaker 2: She was seeking financing for what she listed as a
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  Speaker 2: second residence. You're able to get a break on the
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  Speaker 2: interest rate if it's a second residence. Now, what's a
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  Speaker 2: second residence you I'm surprised you don't have a second
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  Speaker 2: residence by now as rich as you are in there. Well,
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  Speaker 2: now what do you have that condo wind Door County?
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  Speaker 2: What is that a timeshare or reddle or what is it?
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  Speaker 2: It's a timeshare? Yeah, see that they don't they would
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  Speaker 2: not fit into that category. But a second residence is
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  Speaker 2: somebody who owns I don't have I rent my property
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  Speaker 2: in Florida. Let's imagine I owned a residence in Florida.
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  Speaker 2: In addition to hear I qualify for preferential rates more
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  Speaker 2: so than if it is income property. I suppose I
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  Speaker 2: bought a building in Florida and readed it out for tenants. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I can't call that a second residence because it's not
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  Speaker 2: for the purpose of my residence. That's what James did.
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  Speaker 2: She rented the property out, meaning she should have gotten
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  Speaker 2: a different interest rate. But she said on the document
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  Speaker 2: and everywhere, I just uh close on a lease on
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  Speaker 2: a new vehicle. I mean, I have no clue what
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  Speaker 2: I'm signing. It's just you just keep signing and signing
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  Speaker 2: and signing and signing and sign and the sign and
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  Speaker 2: the sign and signing. But when I say no clue
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  Speaker 2: you know kind of what it all is, and they explain,
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  Speaker 2: They sort of explain, but they aren't gonna They don't
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  Speaker 2: want the thing to take ninety seven hours. It's all
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  Speaker 2: of this that you after this goes and so on.
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  Speaker 2: So she signed her name to this and under all
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  Speaker 2: of these things. It's probably your you're affirming that everything
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  Speaker 2: that you're stating is true. But in this instance, she
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  Speaker 2: knew exactly what she's doing. Her defenders are saying, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but you know how many people do this? My Grandcha.
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  Speaker 2: She went after the ex president of the United States,
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  Speaker 2: and she campaigned when she ran for the office, she
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  Speaker 2: campaigned she get Trump. So she had to fulfilling her promise.
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  Speaker 2: So she brought up this ridiculous charge against Trump for
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  Speaker 2: something that is by any standard, a non crime. If
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  Speaker 2: there's no victim, it's not a crime. If Trump had
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  Speaker 2: in fact defaulted on the loan after overstating the underlying
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  Speaker 2: value of the property. Remember also that there were rulings
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  Speaker 2: in that case that valued Trump's assets said a fraction
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  Speaker 2: of what they were worth. There's a ruling in which
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  Speaker 2: they said mar Laga was worth like a dollar and
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  Speaker 2: a half. All this stuff was done and attempt to
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  Speaker 2: justify these charges. But now James herself is facing a
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  Speaker 2: mortgage fraud charge. It's a felony, and the if she's convicted,
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  Speaker 2: the normal sentencing recommendation is a short period in prison.
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  Speaker 2: Had she not and people said this is all just
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  Speaker 2: payback from Trump, payback from Well maybe it is, but
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  Speaker 2: what would you expect if you charge an innocent guy
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  Speaker 2: Trump was something When you yourself are guilty of something, you
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  Speaker 2: would not expect you to have those charges brought against you.
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  Speaker 2: So now all these quotes that Legicia James came, all
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  Speaker 2: these posts that she made over the years, are all
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  Speaker 2: coming back to haunt her, all of those, you know,
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  Speaker 2: just like the whole nobody is ever going to stop
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  Speaker 2: bringing up on Adam Schiff his saying nobody is above
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  Speaker 2: the law, and then Schiff himself gets caught similar type
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  Speaker 2: of crime, claiming two different residences as his principal residence.
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  Speaker 2: Is so on, Anderson Cooper of CNN, see now all
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  Speaker 2: these Democrats admitting after the fact that well, maybe Tiss
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  Speaker 2: James should not have been crowing about indicting Trump in
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  Speaker 2: the first place. According to PolitiFact, the day after she
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  Speaker 2: was elected in twenty eighteen, Letitia James was asked by
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  Speaker 2: a community activist if she was going to sue President Trump,
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  Speaker 2: but she replied, Oh, we're definitely going to sue him.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to be a real pain in the ass.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to know my name personally. Cooper recalled on
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  Speaker 2: Thursday of last week, I mean, that's not a great
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  Speaker 2: look for somebody who has just been elected, who has
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  Speaker 2: just been campaigning, who hasn't even looked, I guess deeply
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  Speaker 2: at any evidence. Now, Anderson Cooper says, this now in
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, nobody was saying any of that when
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  Speaker 2: these people were crowing to go out and get Trump
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  Speaker 2: at the time that they actually said it. In her
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  Speaker 2: own bragging about the charges that she brought. Letitia James
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  Speaker 2: herself was you know, she was doing the poems and
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  Speaker 2: putting out the big statements in that nobody's above the
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  Speaker 2: law kind of crap and all of that stuff. And
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  Speaker 2: here it now is, do I think that what she
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  Speaker 2: did is an extraordinary violation of the law? Ay, it's
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  Speaker 2: clearly a violation of the law. And b it's one
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  Speaker 2: of those violations of the law that all sorts of
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  Speaker 2: people do, including sanctimonious liberals. I go back in time
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  Speaker 2: to the nineties, they made a big deal. This is
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  Speaker 2: when the liberals are on the opposite side of illegal immigration.
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  Speaker 2: I forget who he the first one was, but some
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  Speaker 2: politician was caught they were using an illegal immigrant to
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  Speaker 2: do daycare for their child, you know, a live in daycare,
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  Speaker 2: the live in nanny types. Even back then, huge numbers
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  Speaker 2: of them are illegals. Because try to find an American
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  Speaker 2: citizen who's going to just move into your house and work.
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  Speaker 2: One hundred and sixty eight hours a week and so on. Secondly,
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  Speaker 2: the illegals were giving you a higher quality of employment
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  Speaker 2: pool than some of the legal citizens on their drugs. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: it was. And then there were number of other cases
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  Speaker 2: of people that were caught using illegal immigrants to do
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  Speaker 2: their home health care and home care and all of
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  Speaker 2: that stuff and so on, and the liberals are just
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  Speaker 2: outraged over this. Well, of course that was then and
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  Speaker 2: this is now. They now think that illegal immigrants are
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  Speaker 2: the best people in the world, and they would ever
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  Speaker 2: make a deal about that. But the point that was
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  Speaker 2: brought up at the time is it was such a
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  Speaker 2: common crime, should anybody be individually targeted because you raised
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  Speaker 2: the prospect of hypocrisy? Given that probably million we're doing it,
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  Speaker 2: is it fear to charge only a few. It's the
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  Speaker 2: old speeding ticket argument. Guys speeding on the freeway, cop
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  Speaker 2: pulls him over. Guy says to the cop, everybody else
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  Speaker 2: is going over the speed limit too. The cop says, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but you're the one I caught. It's kind of the
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  Speaker 2: same point story here. One of the ramifications of the
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  Speaker 2: crackdown on illegal immigrants, and secondly, the closing of the
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  Speaker 2: border is the American businesses whose business model basically was
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  Speaker 2: to market to illegals. Company collapsed over the past week.
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  Speaker 2: It's called it Try Color. That name had a meaning.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know about the Try Color collapse? Do you
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  Speaker 2: know anything about this? Or you you do not? You
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  Speaker 2: don't know anything about it. It's involved in making loans
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  Speaker 2: to finance in someone. It's logo Tricolor. The logo that
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  Speaker 2: the company has is almost exactly the Mexican flag. It's
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  Speaker 2: not the Mexican flag, but if you didn't know any better,
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  Speaker 2: you'd think that it was. So they were communicating who
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  Speaker 2: their target market was. Start kicking illegals out. Add more importantly,
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  Speaker 2: and the potential flow of any new business sentence, we're
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  Speaker 2: not letting anybody back in. They went under and again
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  Speaker 2: their business model, as I said, they never really made
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  Speaker 2: much of an attempt to hire. They call themselves Tricolor,
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  Speaker 2: and the tri color three colors are the colors that
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  Speaker 2: almost exactly match the Mexican flag. And this is a
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  Speaker 2: huge segment of their business. They were focusing on. Think
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  Speaker 2: of the old mortgages. You heard the term subprime. They
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  Speaker 2: were focusing on caier loans for people that basically weren't creditworthy.
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  Speaker 2: And the business model is you charge very very high
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  Speaker 2: interest rates because the person is a huge individual risk,
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  Speaker 2: and you hope you make enough money on the people
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  Speaker 2: who pay back their loans to swallow the amount of
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  Speaker 2: losses that you have. Now with their potential client base
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  Speaker 2: shriveling up, they're out of business. You know, I'm always
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  Speaker 2: thinking about ways to make money in our world. As
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  Speaker 2: you know, there are a couple of businesses out there
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  Speaker 2: that I think are kind of premised on the same
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  Speaker 2: thing of doing a lot of business with illegals, but
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  Speaker 2: the notion of like shorting a stock, and if a
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  Speaker 2: company goes bankrupt, the stock usually goes close to zero
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  Speaker 2: or to zero. I just have a hard time doing
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  Speaker 2: that when the stocks keep going up and the one
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  Speaker 2: or two that I was thinking of their stacks keep
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  Speaker 2: going up. Well, I mean, you can lose an astonishing
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  Speaker 2: amount of money if you short a stock that's going up,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: and often when they go down, it's an instantaneous thing
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  Speaker 2: where they declare bankruptcy, and nobody even seemed to have
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  Speaker 2: any indication that it was coming. Columbus Day. Trump issued
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  Speaker 2: a proclamation for Columbus Day, and then he sent out
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  Speaker 2: a social media post. It said we're back Italians. Columbus
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  Speaker 2: a has, you know, in the minds of the liberals
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  Speaker 2: become a terrible day, and in many communities they've changed
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  Speaker 2: the name to Indigenous People's Day, reflecting the people who
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  Speaker 2: were here before Columbus was here. I want to comment
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  Speaker 2: for a moment on it whether or not Columbus they
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  Speaker 2: should be a federal holiday or not. I'm agnostic. We
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  Speaker 2: can't keep creating new holidays. And obviously if you create
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  Speaker 2: a new one, unless you're just going to keep saying
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  Speaker 2: that we're never going to deliver the mail in this
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  Speaker 2: country or federal workers. That put kind of a kick
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  Speaker 2: in the butt for the federal workers who would have
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  Speaker 2: had to day off, though, is it it? The reality
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  Speaker 2: of Columbus. Now, let's start with this. If Columbus, who
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  Speaker 2: while Italian, was actually working for Spain, Spain funded him.
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  Speaker 2: Italians wouldn't give him the money. If Columbus had not
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  Speaker 2: come and discovered the New World, someone was going to
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: he'd probably beat whoever the next guy was by one
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: or two years. It was beginning to dawn on a
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: lot of people that the earth isn't flattered. That if
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: you if you start heading to the West. Eventually you're
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: going to bump into something the great irony, you know.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Columbus and many of those, you know, they thought that
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: the first thing you get to would be India, that
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: you'd beginning to the edge of Asia, rather than this
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: whole other continent and whole other half of the world
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: that was there. But they went. And because they went,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: and because he discovered land, and because word was sent back,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: the new world was explored. Now in terms of identifying
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: it with Columbus, he was first, and he was courageous,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: and he was a visionary. Could you just imagine what
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: it would have been like on those three ships setting
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: sailed for a new world, and you're sailing and sailing
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: and by these ships were going you know, they're countering headwinds.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: There's no motors on these ships. It's taken forever and
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: they're going through nothing and nothing and nothing, and you
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: see just a bunch of nothing. The word is is
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: that Columbus had about two more weeks and they were
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: going to hang them. Well, Benci, they stumbled in one
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: of the lands, one of the islands in the Caribbean.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Ind word came back here it is, and then everything
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: else was discovered In reality, the Norwegians were probably first,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: and some think people from what we now call Russia
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: came over to the other side of North America long
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: before that. It's hard to really know, but the case
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: is pretty compelling that Leif Erikson came over and landed
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: somewhere in what we would call Canada or New England
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: many years prior to that. The thing that was curious
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: is that it was not followed by any type of
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: exploration from anyone else. What was key about Columbus is
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: that it did start the migration to the New World.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: The fact that it was Columbus and the fact that
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: it was a European nation meant that what came over
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: to the United States from all of those nations of
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Europe was a sense of a civilization. It was a
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: civilization that was both premised on where they came from
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: and a rebellion against it. While the Spanish, as I say,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Columbus being Italian, he was still funded by Spain, which
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: is why much of that part of the world was
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: colonized by the Spaniards. The English came in and they
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: took a good chunk of the North American mainland, and
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: in particular we now know as the founding states of
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: the United States of America, and the religion, the culture,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: the beliefs of those countries came over here, but there
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: was a rebellion against the form of government that did
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: not empower the individual. Who knows if someone else's first,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: what kind of a culture and civilization we would have had.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Columbus and the Spanish, and for that matter, the Italians
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: were Christians and Catholics, specifically the Salvation. If you're a believer,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: if you're of a Christian of the people who came
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: over here and the people who ended up finding this religion,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: if you're a Christian, I understand if you're not, you
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: wouldn't think it's a good thing. Would certainly be a
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: good thing. The most overwhelmingly overwhelmingly Christian population in the
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: world is Latin America and South America. These are people
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: who descended from the indigenous people and then bread and
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: had kids with if you want to call them invaders
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: or colonizers, whatever they did. If you're a Christian, you
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: have to believe that souls are saved as a result
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: of this. This notion, however, that any of this is
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: an invasion. First of all, Columbus didn't invade anything. Columbus
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: didn't go and run rough shot across the wild West,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: killing off. He's hanging around there on the Caribbean. They
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: made a couple more trips, and then everybody else came.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: For people who argue that the bringing of Western civilization,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: bringing a civilization to the US in simpilation and creating
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: it is a good thing. They can go back to
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: the earth and live the lifestyle that the indigenous people
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: were living. Then they can do that, or they can
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: leave and go back to Europe out of their guilt,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: which they never do. It has been a slur and
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: it's it's always been interesting to me, actually that it's
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: been the Italians that have most objected to the de
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Columbus staying of Columbus because, as I say, he was
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: actually representing Spain. He's working for Spain. Isabella and Ferdinand,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: the royal family of Spain. They're the ones that funded
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: and bankrolled them. You cannot even name the ships that
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Columbus came over on, can you. He's got he's gonna
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: bolix this right and left. I'm gonna repeat this. You
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: said the Santa Maria. That's one whenever you start a
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: question with it is that it's a side of lack
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: of confidence. What were you gonna say? I want to
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: hear this. Yeah, we're stalled at one. Pinta is right,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: that's two. That was my first cow I ever had
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: was a pinto. There were any number of jokes on that.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I said, my pinto the same horse power as the
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: pin to the game of the Nina or Nina Nina
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: sata mav and which one did Columbus himself sail on?
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: There was a command ship, he was on the Saturary
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: and Santa Maura of course stands for Saint Mary. So
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I mean the Christianity of this? Well, yeah, there was
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: a Sopranos episode where they all object. They had a
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: rally against the people who were trying to knock there,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: and Tony was the only one that wasn't in duty.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: All this stuff about Pridy your ethnicity is a bunch
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: of huey. And you kept saying that there was a
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: there was a site field about everything, and I could
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: tell there's a Sopranos about there's a Sopranos about everything.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I want to get to a more serious story. I
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: can't say that this story had a positive ending because
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: it's not the right way of saying it. But I
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: think that the family of Elijah Wilks, who is the
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: man that essentially attacked an off duty mill w police officer,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: they came out and via their attorney, issued a statement
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: over the weekend saying that the shooting was justified. One
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: of the things that I didn't know since the officer
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: was off duty, was is there any video? You know?
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: And I didn't know if he was off duty as
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: in just leaving work or coming into work er for
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: hours away from his shift. But he wasn't in a
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: squad car, so there wouldn't be the dash cam, and
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: he if he wasn't in uniform, would he have a
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: body camera. But there was video out there and it
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: did indeed appear to back up most of what the
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: original version of the story was. One guy caughts off
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: another guy. They get out of the car, they're yelling
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: at each other, in Wilkes starts pistol whipping the police
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: officer off duty who did have a gun with him,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: and shot and killed him. The family viewed the video
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: and they said that the use of force by the
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: officer was justified. They deserve credit for saying that No.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: It's been suggested that the race of the officer is
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: one of the reasons that they reacted that way, But
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: I don't buy that. We had a police officer who
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: was harassed essentially out of a job, who was in
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: African American Joseph Mensa, So I don't think that's the case.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: I think that what you had here is a family
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: that saw the video and realized that the guy I
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: can't imagine him doing anything like this, lost his temper.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: People can go nuts over some of these fender benders
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: and so on, and you know, in the city of
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Milwaukee were driving is so hard and being made harder
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: by Chevy Johnson footing his curbs all over the middle
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: of the streets. These things happen, and you know, the
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: guy overreacted and so on. But if you're smacking somebody
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: around with a gun, you have a right to use
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: deadly force to kill him, and the officer did. And
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: I think the family of Wilkes deserves credit for coming
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: out and saying this, because I just know there were
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: people in this community that were waiting for them to
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: light a match and they chose not to do it,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: and they deserve credit. For that. This is the Mark
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Belling Podcast. This is the Mark Belling Podcast. Bait and switch.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: You've all heard that term, right, I'm not gonna keep
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: asking you. Well, you you sort of did I give
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: you a correct and your n Indipena and Santa Maria?
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Or did I not? I ruled it correct even though
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: you stumbled around in your way of you were like
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: a drunk that's walking around in a hallway who you
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: know in a hotel and he does actually find his
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: hotel room, but he bounced against the sides of the
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: wall anyway. Bait and switch, it's a classic marketing scheme.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: You know, you run an ad for something that looks
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: really really really really attractive and all of that, and
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: then you see that they get person and it's not
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: quite the like when you see these produce ads for
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: the grocery stores. You never see a banana that's all
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: bruised up. You go to the store and off and
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: that's what's in there. Paul says that's true of the
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Big Mac as well. It's been such a long time
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: since I've ordered a Big Mac. You're saying the Big Mac.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: I always thought the Big Mac look great, But you're
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: saying not anymore or does it look great? People take
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: that up with Paul Bait and switch. Lake Country Classical Academy.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: When it was announced, it got the support of just
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: about all of us on the right. It's a charter school.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: The charter school is a public school, but not run
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: by the public school district. It's a hybrid between a
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: private school and a public school. The charter school is
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: going to be part of the story. Charter school in
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Occonavoy Hillsdale Affiliated. Hillsdale College in Michigan is I'm not
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: going to say the most conservative college in the United States,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: but it's the best known conservative college in the United States.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: It has just stood up for American values and conservative
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: values and so on. And in particular, the education they
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: offer at Hillsdale is a rebellion against all of the
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: new fangled education that we see everywhere else. They teach
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: in the classics, it's a traditional curriculum, high academics and
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: so on, and Hillsdale's created a curriculum for below college
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: K through twelve. They've created this curriculum and they're offering
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: it up to other schools to adopt the Hillsdale curriculum.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Lake Country Classical Academy when they started up, said that
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: they were going to be a Hillsdale affiliated college, meaning
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: that they would operate under the principles established by Hillsdale.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: The story was first reported by Wisconsin Right Now after
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: a social media post from the family of the child involved.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: When you have a school like this, you're going to
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: have a lot of smart kids, and one of them
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: and obviously probably a fair number of conservative smart kids.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: You go to a Hillsdale affiliated school for two reasons.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: You don't want a stupid liberal education and be you
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: want a good education. She proposes to start a turning
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Point chapter at Lake County Classical Academy. These things a
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: lot of them before Charlie Kirk was killed. They're popping
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: up all over. Whether or not the movement lasts or not, again,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but we do know that lots and
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: lots of young people in the wake of Charlie Kirk's
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: assassination are more determined than ever that his message in
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: what he stood for, will live on. And there have
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: been more. I think the number is more new chapters
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: started in the few weeks since his death than were
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: in existence before his death. If it's not that it's
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: really close student proposed to do one at Lake Huntry
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Class Academy and the school principal turned it down. This
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: would be I can't say if you would have just
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: mark guess the last guess the most likely school in
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin to accept a turning point chapter. It probably be
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: that's one. It's founded by Hillsdale. Say, Charlie Kirk did
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: not graduate from college famously, but he had a close
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: relationship with Hillsdale. They gave him an honorary degree. He
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: went over to the to the college several times and spoke.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: He was linked more with Hillsdale than any other college
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: or university in the United States of America. The story
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: gets better when I think of like the term bait
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: and switch. Hey, this is the whole bait and switch
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: comes in here that they appealed to conservatives people like
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: myself to speak up on behalf of them. They put
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: the Hillsdale thing out. But then when it comes time
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: to actually let your actions match your words, suddenly you're
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: something other than that. You're the same leftist crap that
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: rejects these things. Can you think of any other case
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: of bait and switch than a victimized They conservatives in
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin in the past ten years. I even think I've
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: created a verb for it. It's called to be hagadorned.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Brian Hagudoron ran for the Wisconsin Supreme Court as a conservative.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: He's not been a liberal. He's just not consistently conservative.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: He's somebody who votes with both sides. He's conservative more
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: often than not. But he's disappointed a number of conservatives
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: in that he wasn't a more solidly conservative vote. And
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: when Brian ran for office, I think he created the
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: impression that he would be a conservative. He has said
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I only ever said I was going to stand up
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: for the rule of law, no matter which way is
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: going to go. So in any event, it was he's
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: turned out to be disappointing. As it turns out now
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: with the conservatives and the majority, he's one of only
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: three and probably soon to be two conservative votes left
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: in the court, even if it's not always a conservative vote. Nonetheless,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: do you know who the principal of the school is?
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: The Lake has wife? I mean as I say they've
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: been hagrid arned again. Margaret Haggard Order is the principal
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: of the school, and she denied the request. This has
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: created an uproar because and this is one of the
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: things that happens when it wouldn't have been in the past,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: when obstruct or block a young conservative person like the
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: student here. The family's name is Smiley. I'll get to the
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: names in a minute. They posted the daughter's mother posted
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: on social media about this, and it is angered a
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: fair number of conservatives who believe that Lake Country Classical
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Academy is basically just lied via it's marketing about what
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: it's about. Now, I'll give you their defense. It's a
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: plausible defense, and we'll get to that in a moment.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: But the board of directors of this school, it's like
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at the cabinet at Scott Walker. It's almost
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: all Walker types. In fact, an honorary member of the
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: board is Scott Walker. He's listed his honor I don't
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: know that means other than they wanted to get his
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: infromoderate and his endorsement on there. But and this is
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: a good thing. The first person to come out and
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: blast this decision is Scott Walker. No, he's not a
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: voting member of the board, but he's on there on
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: their website and so on, and he's blasted this saying
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: that they should have a chapter. But the other members
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: of the board, some of them I'll admit that I've
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: never heard of, but others that I have came out
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: of the Walker administration or are sort of out of
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: that realm of Wisconsin politics. The board president is Randy Goodsill.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Georgia Maxwell is the vice president. Georgia Maxwell prominent conservative activist,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Republican appointing to a state agent. She's still on the board.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Skyler file. He's a conservative lawyer. He's a guy who
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: filed a lawsuit against requiring lawyers to be members of
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: the Wisconsin Bar Association. Ellen Nowak again, she's been involved
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: in Republican politics forever. She's in the Walker administration. She's
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: not the president of America Transmission Company. Tom Brannigan, John
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: wu Matthew Bandry. In some cases, I don't know these people,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: but of the ones that I've known, they're all conservative people.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: So I'm wondering how the Board of Directors allows this
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: to happen. Now, there's a report in Wisconsin right now
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: that I linked up to on my x account over
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: the weekend that goes into this insignificant detail. The young
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: student is well, not that young. She's in high school.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Katie Smiley is her name. She's the one who wanted
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: to start the chapter, and she and her mother are
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: standing the ground and are weighing in on this that
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: they sought to continue it. In the credit of Scott Walker,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: he posted an X they should absolutely be able to
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: have a chapter. We will fight for students to have
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: a Turning Point USA or any other conservative group at
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: their school. Now, Initially, when I heard of this story,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I wanted, is this a rival over here? Scott Walker
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: heads another young adults conservative group, Young Americans Foundation, and
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Turning Points kind of pass them up in terms of
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: name recognition and so on. My initial thought was, all
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: these Walker affiliated people don't want Turning Point there because
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: it's kind of getting in the way of you. Why
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: if that's not true? Scott Walker, to his credit, immediately
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: step forward in defense. I've turned Point and the chapter.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: So do you have here an arrogant principle that simply
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: screwed the board. I'm gonna do what I want kind
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: of a Brian Hagan and I'm gonna you know, the
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: rule a lot, et cetera. Now, the defense is this,
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: first of all, the principal hag She sent out a
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: letter I guess it was a form of evil, but
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: a letter to the parents, and it was so obnoxiously condescending.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: It's enough. It's the kind of crap that I know
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: you're gonna get from liberals when people who are conservative
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: put this out and it was just filled with condescending.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: At Lake Country Christian Classical Academy, we use the Socratic method, that's,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: you know, teaching by asking questions, the method I use
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: here with poor Paul in there, and you know we
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: don't we're not activists, et cetera. Now, first of all,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: she's diminishing the teaching capabilities of Turning Point USA. But secondly,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: anybody who's anything about Charlie Kirk, he is the guy
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: that used the Socratic method. It's the whole means for
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: what they do. Ask people questions to make them think
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: about their beliefs and thinking things to you're gonna convert
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: them over to the other side because the views that
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: they hold, once they realize they can't defend them, they
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: realize that they're wrong. It's exactly what Turning Point try
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: to do. Now their position is we don't allow and
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: we don't allow any of these outside clubs or activities,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: and my favorite one, if you let one in, you
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: have to let them all in. I hear people say
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: that all the time. No, you don't. If I let
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: somebody into my home, it doesn't mean I have to
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: let Paul in. No, you don't. Now, the fact that
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: they're a charter school puts in a little different category.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: If you're a private association, you know, whatever the hell
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: you want. Basically, by being a charter school, there is
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: a public component to it. And you can make the
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: case that they're arguing that this would and they brought
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: this up should Does that mean we have to have
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: an Antifa chapter. No, it doesn't. But that argument if
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: you let one in and you let in the other.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: I just always debug that how many Nazi chapters of
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: anything do we have anyway? Almost none in any walk
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: of life meeting, But we have all sets of other groups.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Meaning you can say no toe some. But furthermore, there
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: was a way of working this out. You could set
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: this up in a way in which the chapter is
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: like at the school, but maybe not on their website
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: or something like that. But secondly, they do have other
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: outside groups they deal with. They don't have their own
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: independent sports program. They partner with another school for the
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: were athletic because the schools are small do not have
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: sports teams with enough kids to make a team go.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: They partner with another school out there. So that's an
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: outside organization that's in there, and so on. I can't
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: try to contact Margaret Haggerer and she has not responded
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: to me. I can tell you that I did speak
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: to data one of the board members, Ellen ellen Nowek,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: and she indicated to me that there's going to be
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: a board meeting Wednesday night, and she said she's very
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: optimistic that there will be a positive resolution of this. Well,
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: I hope so. But the bigger problem here, and it's
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: just it's always the problem, and I've explained it with
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: regard to the news media and many other things. When
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: you try to and I talked about in another group,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: you know, the drift of conservative organizations. You start something conservative,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: but eventually the people that are involved aren't that conservative
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: and they drift off to the other side. This will
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: handled terribly by the principle the letter that she said, oh,
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: it was obnoxious. She didn't make any attempt whatsoever to
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: accommodate or work with the board better understand that if
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: these are the people that you hire or run your school,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: you are never going to live up to the principles
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: that you claim that you were going to live by,
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: which is the Hillsdale principles. As I say that there
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: was a way to deal with this, but the principle
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: has not herself backed out, meaning she could have shown
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: the initiative to do so, she could speak in a
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: less insulting turn, but she didn't. And the reason EVER
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: got the whole bait and switch is there's lefty schools
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: that do lefty crap all the time. I complain about it,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: bot what do you expect. I supported on my program
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: this school when it was proposed, and I said it
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: was a great thing that it was going to happen.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: If I go out there and give you my endorsement
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: and then you turn around and you'd be the same
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: stink job that every other public school is out there,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: I do resent it. I'm going to quote the letter
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: from the principal, Margaret Hagito, and this is what she
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: said on on Friday and attempt to knock down this story, which,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: of course it's like knocking down a fire by throwing
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: gasoline on it, Dear Lake Country Classical Academy community, There
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: has been some confusion on social media today about school
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: sanctioned clubs at LCCA. With this in mind, we are
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: an active conversation with Turning Point USA. It is clear
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: that we have a lot of common ground. We respect
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: tpusa's mission and apply our own club policy consistently similar
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: to TPUSA. Classical education is an antidote to trends in
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: coeducation and education that emphasize political activism over reason debate.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: If t us TPUSA, that's Turning Put USA, we're to visit.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: We hope they would appreciate the honest, open, socratic discussion
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: and civil debates that are a hallmark of a classical education.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: And oh condescend well if they come and like they're
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: supposed to come in and bowance, scrape in front of you,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: and that appreciate shut up and that our LCCA students
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: have in the classrooms every day since its founding, LCCA
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: has not approved student clubs affiliated with outside political or
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: religious organizations. Our position, which is consistent with Hillsdale's guidance
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: and reflection in our Family Handbook, which refers to extracurricular
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: clubs as in Richmond classes and states. The school may
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: sponsor a number of student enrichment classes that enhance the
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: curriculum of the school, and in keeping with the school's mission,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: the school will not sponsor enrichment classes that are open
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: to only parts of the student body, including classes for
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: students who with particular religious or political views. All enrichment
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: classes must be appreciated by it, must be approved of
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: the principle, and have an active faculty sponsor. Mean it,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: it's hard to imagine any group that wouldn't have some
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: type of political view. It's impossible at some level you're
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: going to have this. But beyond that, when they call
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: themselves a Hillsdale approved curriculum and they state the type
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: of edgy, that's a political statement in and of itself,
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: and it would seem to me the turning quite perfectly
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: aligns with their mission. To be clear, LCCA has not
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: and does not discriminate against anyone based on their views.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: The suggestion that a proposed TPUSA student club was rejected
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: due to its viewpoint is completely false. I consider that
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: statement to essentially be I won't say a lie, dishonest.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: It is because of their views. You've described them as
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: a political orgation. So that means it's because they have views.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: You may say it's you know, I would have said
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: the same thing to a liberal group as our conservative,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: But don't say it's not because of their views, because
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: their views are that they steal in an educational context,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: but from a conservative and for that matter, Christian perspective.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I hope the board works this out, and I hope
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: the board understands that it has a problem with its administration.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: As I say, we have enough trouble trying to stop
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: public schools from being leftist hell holes. We need to
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: make sure that the alternatives that are created too this
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: the parents are sending there because they're specifically looking for,
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: not that other thing. On a somewhat related topic, I
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: want to follow up on a discussion from last week.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: I commented on Wisconsin Institute of Law and Liberty filing
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: a lawsuit aimed at stopping a provision of the current
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: state budget that provides funding for additional prosecutors in Milwaukee
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: and potentially walk A, Shaw County. Will not will excuse
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: me wrong, Yeah, Well made the statement that, well, the
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: state law doesn't allow this diversion of funds for prosecutors.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: The money's got to go into a fund for schools
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: and libraries. My retort to that is, the state budget
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: diverts funds from things all over the place. Why are
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: you diverting one of the things that actually addresses a
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: law and order problem that we have. Can't you pick
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: your spots. At the time of the last podcast, I
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: had not gotten a response from Rickysenberg, who runs WILL.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: When again, I see this is a very good organization WILL,
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: and I'm trying to stop them from drifting off and
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: being the same you know crap. Okay, we'll do one
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: for the lefties here to show that we're you know,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: he gave me a lengthy response, and in fairness to them,
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: I want to share a portion of it. I don't
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: think he addresses a single one of my points, but
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: I'll read it anyway. I know about progressive public interest
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: law firms. We've been beating them for years. I understand
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: your contention about nonprofits becoming less conservative. It's a version
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: of O'Sullivan's first law from National Review back in day,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: and I've had it in mind for a long while that,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: by the way, that was the law. Any organization that
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: isn't a version of any organization that isn't specifically conservative, isn't.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: I didn't state it correctly, But if you're not going
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: to be conservative, you're just going to drift off and
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: become something else continuing. Sometimes that does happen, just as
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: more recently some conservative organizations have abandoned conservatism for populism.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: But it would be absurd to say that WILL has
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: shifting priorities or is no longer conservative. I can I
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: didn't say they were no longer conservative. I said I
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: was concerned about the drift. I can go through the drill.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin opened during pandemic. Wisconsin opened during pandemic because we
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: and others brought lawsuits that insisted on the rule that
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: rule of law tripe. We got the definition court, We
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: got the definitive court order that prevented the Biden administration
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: from giving away fourteen billion dollars based on race and gender.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: We got a restraining round, and they go through a
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: number of other cases. All good, and I repeatedly praised
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: them for doing all of this because there's nobody else
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: said to do it. And they go on a number.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Then he continues, I could do pages of this stuff.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: I don't mind if people disagree with our choice of
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: a particular case. But the idea that Will is not
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: conservative or has shifting priorities is false. Again, I said,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: I feared that there was drift here. My fear is
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: that this is a sign that they won't be conservative
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: and say that they didn't. I appreciate your larger point,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: but trying to fit us it does not work. And
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: then he went through all the reasons again, nitpicking, why
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: you're not supposed to be able to do this under
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: the law, so forth, so forth, and so on and again.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: My question here is just a matter of priorities, whether
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: or not you figure the belief that the law was
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: violated or not. We're actually spending public money in Milwaukee
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: on something that isn't stupid for once, and I would
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: much rather that you devote your clearly limited resources. You
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: only have so much money on staff on all of
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: the idiotic uses of funds that fits in the stupidity category.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Let me move to this story. We've got another one
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: of these cases dealing with a public employee and the
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: residency rule. In this instance, the person who was elected
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: the municipal judge in South Milwaukee is turning in her
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: resignation after an investigation into whether or not when she
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: ran for office she didn't live in South Milwaukee. Now
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: the evidence against her is strong, depending on your point
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: of view. Her name is Kelly Martinka, she's married to
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: a police officer. That police officer and applying for a
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: job in another community stated his residence as received. The
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Martinkas presumably are still living together. It's not a divorce
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: filing or anything. If he lives in Racene, didn't that
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: mean that she lived in Recene. When you run for
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: public office, you do not have to be a resident
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: of that community, but you have to move into that
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: community after being elected. But here's the thing. On her
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: nominating petition she listed South Milwaukee. So when she ran
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: for office, you have to sign petition and signatures to
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: get on the ballot. She stated South Milwaukee. And the
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: question is whether or not this was a false statement
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: about her residence, given the fact that her husband at
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: the same time was claiming to live and Racide. Martenka
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: is saying she won by thirty six votes. Who is
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: a close election. Martenka is resigning, saying she doesn't believe
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: that she did anything wrong, but she wants to end
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: the controversy, so forth, and so on. Now to this
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: story here. We discussed last week for a different reason,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: the proposed garbage fee in the City of Wakashaw. They're
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: going to charge all property owners one hundred and sixty
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: dollars a year to collect the garbage and take the
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: garbage out of the property out of the city budget.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: It's going to still be in the city budget, but
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: it will not be covered by property taxes. Here's why
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: communities do this. You see this all over the place.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: In Milwaukee is the master of it. Take a city
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: service and put people on a special expert charge for
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: that so you can take it out of your general
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: property tax budget. It allows you to tax people more
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: than the state limit. State law. Currently, the Supreme Court
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: is not a return to it yet. They'll get to it,
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: partly in Act ten and partly in the revenue limits.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: They limit the amount of money that a city can
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: raise your taxes every year. So in order to get
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: around that, they're creating all of these fees. And in
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Waukeshaw they're creating this garbage fee. The vote on the
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: city council to who it was nine to five. Here's
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: why I bring this up one of the nine. One
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: of the people who decided that Walker Straw isn't tax
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: enough just declared her candidacy for mayor. Walkshaw is of
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: all the cities in Waukeshaw County, it may be the
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: least Republican, but it's still Republican. For instance, the president's election,
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Burkefield is getting close to Trump carried the city. It's
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: still more Republican the Democrat. But they keep electing lefty mayors.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: The current mayors are lefty. The predecessor Mayor, Larry Nelson,
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: was an even bigger lefty. And now they're gonna have
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: a new election because currently or as I say, I
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: describe him as a left he maybe more accurately he's
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: a moderate, but he's not a conservative, and he's not
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: a Republican. And he's supported Kamala Harris a president. Now
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: here's one of Belling's rules. It doesn't hold all the time.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: It just holds almost all the time. No matter where
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: a community is really liberal, really conservative, in between the
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: city leader of the community, the village president of the
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: mayor or whatever the title is almost always more liberal
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: than the community. I didn't say always, I said almost
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: so just grab whatever city it is, and the mayor
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: is going to tandem BRIT's case in Brookfield, It's been
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: the case in Waukesha. It's certainly been the case in
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: o'conhom Walk, where they've had a Democrat running for mayor,
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: and they've got their own mayoral election too. That Democrat, Mangus,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: is not running for reelection anyway. They're gonna have a
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: choice here, Scott Allen, who's a member of the State
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Assembly and is conservative. He's in fact, he might be
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: more conservative than me. He's a conservative guy. He's running
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: for mayor. And this raised the garbage fee because we
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: aren't taxing you enough. Helven Seben. And I don't know
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: if I pronounced that correctly. Helvin Seben, I believe is
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: how I pronounce the name. She's the opponent. So I
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: don't know who's going to win the election. But I
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: can tell you is that there is a long history
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: of communities electing mayors that are to the left of
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: the populace of the city, and it's one of the
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: reasons why they somehow never seem to be able to
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: figure out ways to cut the city budget. I would
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: argue that the first place to start is to get
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: rid of the city administrator. They have a full time
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: mayor at Waka Shaw. You do not need to have
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: a city administrator who's full time and a mayor who's
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: full time. And most cities that have full time mayors
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: don't have. Milwaukee doesn't even have a city administrator. It's duplicative,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: and it's a sign of a mayor that simply it
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: is too lazy to do the job of running the
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: agencies underneath the mayor. You can have a chief of
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: staff and all of that stuff that is similar, but
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: the pay for chiefs of staff is never as high
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: as city administrators. I've covered a lot of territory on
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: this program today. Don't you think I've covered a lot
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: of territory. But I've got one more Walgreens. I've driven
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: past Walgreens corporate headquarters, I bet at least nine hundred times,
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: except not much of the corporate headquarters is in there anymore.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: They're in Deerfield, Illinois, and it's right on I ninety four,
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: real close to where I ninety four splits where if
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: you go, I want to get my numbers right. If
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: you go one way, you're heading toward downtown Chicago and
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: onto the Edens, and the other way is taking you west.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: In any event, it's right around where it splits, kind
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: of near Lake Cook Road for those of you who
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: know that area. They've got other office building. That's the
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Corporate d Quotas they made with great fanfare a decade ago. However,
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: they were going to move into the old downtown Chicago
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: Post Office. The post office moved out, but that building
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: is famous. It's in downtown. I think it's the one
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: where they shot the shooting scene from The Untouchables. I
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: might be wrong about that, but I think so. It's
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: a big, famous building in the Lower Loop of Chicago.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Walgreens has announced that it is pulling out of that
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: building in Chicago, even though it has six years left
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: on the lease. It doesn't take a genius to figure
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: why they're getting the hell out of downtown Chicago and
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: they're gonna move it all back to the suburbs. Leftist
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: cities are killing themselves. That's hundreds of jobs. Now. My
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: guess is that a lot of those employees lived in
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: the suburbs and were commuting into the city on the
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: trains on the systems that they have in Chicago and
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: so on, and they're relieved by this. But remember why
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: all of this started ten years ago at the same thing,
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: the millennial generation wanted to live in cities and wanted
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: to live downtown. You saw the same thing in Milwaukee.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: A number of businesses that were out in the suburbs
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: moved to the city. Most famous example Northwestern. It's shutting
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: everything down in the Franklin campus and they're building new
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: buildings in Milwaukee. A lot of the employees younger would
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: rather work in cities than in the suburbs. And that
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: works until the city becomes a crime and fested hell hole.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: When you become San Francisco, nobody wants to work there
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: when you want it. When you become Portland, nobody normal
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: wants to work there. And when you become Chicago. The
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: great strength of Chicago is that it had this incredibly
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: vibrant downtown. They're killing it. Sadly, they'll never learn. If
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: they were going to learn, they would have learned by now.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: They'll never learn. You in there, you may learn. I
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: drill this into your head every day. I use the
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk method. I knew right and left you what
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: you mean you've learned You've just not learned at a
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: fast enough pace for me. By the way, I uh
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: lost my football picked by half a point. I knew
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: I was gonna lose. But the reason I feel confident
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: my picks this year, I couldn't just couldn't find a
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  Speaker 2: good game that I liked. And in fact, in full disclosure,
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  Speaker 2: if I would have had a backup game, it would
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  Speaker 2: have been an even worse loss. I would have taken
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  Speaker 2: Detroit over Kansas City, and Kansas City slaughtered them. So
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  Speaker 2: it's not like if only I picked the other game
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  Speaker 2: and so on. But the thing that has to be
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  Speaker 2: confident is even when I lost, it was only by
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  Speaker 2: a half point, and the team that beat me scored
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  Speaker 2: in the last forty five seconds or so of the
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  Speaker 2: game to do So what about those Brewers? Should we
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  Speaker 2: talk about them? All right? That's next on the Markedlling podcast.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Mark Belling podcast. Now we do this podcast,
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  Speaker 2: and I recognize that many people listen to podcasts well
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: after the fact. We're doing this on Monday afternoon, is
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: before several hours before the Brewers played Game one of
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: the National League Championship Series with the Dodgers. So I'm
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: speaking only about events that occurred prior to that. The
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Brewers over the weekend finish off the Cubs in really
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: dramatic five game series, winning in Milwaukee three to one
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  Speaker 2: with outstanding pitching, all by young pitchers, and all but
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  Speaker 2: two of them pitchers that were not on the roster
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  Speaker 2: the beginning of the season. The pitchers that started and
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: ended the game were the two best relievers at the
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: beginning of the year. Even the starter kind of functioned
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: as a reliever. McGill and then Abnery Revit. The other
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  Speaker 2: guys were younger players. Chad Patrick was called up right
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  Speaker 2: at the beginning of the season, but was sent down
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  Speaker 2: as a starter for an effectiveness and was clearly the
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  Speaker 2: key player in the game. The Cubs had one rally
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  Speaker 2: going in that game. Chad came on the first and
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  Speaker 2: second and went out in the sixth inning end got
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  Speaker 2: out of it ing got out of it by retiring
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  Speaker 2: the first guy retired as Suzuki who just killed the Brewers.
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  Speaker 2: In any event, the Brewers did dispatch the Cub's end.
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  Speaker 2: I mean when the game was over, ipes for a
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  Speaker 2: second unsure so what it is to do, because I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what to do after clinching games, because the
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Breweries going into that game were three and ten in
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: clinching games in the postseason. The Brewers had not won
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: a playoff series since twenty eighteen, which doesn't sound so
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  Speaker 2: bad until you remember the Brewers always make the playoffs
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  Speaker 2: for most games, you know, you make it once every
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: three or four years, that would be the norm. The
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  Speaker 2: Brewers made it seven of the last eight years. And
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  Speaker 2: the knock just is for one reason or another, they
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: get knocked out, and several instances they were heartbreaking, they
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  Speaker 2: close and so on, and in this case it kind
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  Speaker 2: of reversed itself. But there was just this explosion of
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  Speaker 2: euphouria that you just sensed from everyone over the whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: We finally won one again. This comment will be dated
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  Speaker 2: for any of you who listen more than a few
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: hours later, but I just think beating the Dodgers is
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: going to be borderline impossible. If you follow my comments
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: in baseball over the years, I focus almost entirely on
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: pitching and not on anything else. And the Dodgers' weakness
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: all year was depth, and they're starting pitching. But in
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: the postseason, you don't need depth. You need three good
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: starting pitchers and you can cobble together a fourth game
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: if you need one. With the bullpen and the Dodgers,
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: what happened with Blake Snell in the final weeks of
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: the season. He's just become an extremely good pitch and
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  Speaker 2: they didn't have that for most of the year. Otani
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: is probably at best at number three or four starter.
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  Speaker 2: They're just more deep in pitching, and the Brewers starting
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  Speaker 2: pitching is right now the weakness of the team. It
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: was their strength all season. But as I say speak
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  Speaker 2: here on Monday, the Brewers just don't know who to
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  Speaker 2: start tonight. It's thought to be it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: both Josekantana and Quinn Priester, and they're trying to decide
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  Speaker 2: who's going to go first and who's going to go
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  Speaker 2: second and try to squeeze two or three innings out
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  Speaker 2: of each of them. Kantana's badly banged up and Priester
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  Speaker 2: was shelled in his most recent start. Freddy Peralta has
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: not been sharp in his starts, and it's just hard
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  Speaker 2: to see surviving this and cobbling together all of these
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: bullpen games. The Brewers have made only one roster change.
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  Speaker 2: You are allowed to change your roster after each series.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: You can change it during a series, but the only
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: roster change again is to reflect this situation with pitching
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: Tobias Myers, who mostly has been in the miners, but
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: otherwise when a Brewer starter has been added to the
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: postseason roster and Nick Miers has been boos. And that's
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: simply a function of they need guys who can Let's
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: imagine you fall behind God forbid eight to one in
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  Speaker 2: the third inning, you still need to cover those seven
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: innings of pitching. They haven't got Robert Gosser to do that.
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  Speaker 2: Got You need to have somebody to go multiple innings
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  Speaker 2: because you just don't want to burn up your pitchers.
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  Speaker 2: You really really need in a game that if not
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: a loss cause you're way behind on you need guys
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  Speaker 2: that can eat some innings up in a longer series
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  Speaker 2: and hopefully even pitch effectively. But the rulers are just
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: loaded to the guys that can go one inning, and
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: I think that's the reason that they made that shift.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: There's no indication Brandon would have can play. Even in
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: the World Series. They have not put them on the
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: sixty day injured list, so that means they're holding out
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: hope that maybe for a World Series. But from what
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: I hear, he wasn't close to being able to be
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: added to the roster here that he's not even really
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: thrown off a mound or anything like that. But they're
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: they can just rule it out and put them on
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: a sixty day injured list. But since the season's sport
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: an end, you know, what's the point of that. So
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: there's still perhaps some hope of that. Dodgers lineup's really good.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: It's even better in terms of hitting. The Cubs lineup.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: The Brewers, on the other hand, scrap out runs. Interestingly,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: they won the final game three to one on three
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: home runs. That's not the norm by which they win
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: in the postseason. Home runs tend to be the way
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: the teams score rather than scrapping them out. So I
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: just the big bread that I had was getting knocked
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: out by the Cubs, and it's just because of the
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: insufferability of Cubs fans. And it was the same thing
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: and just proof of this. Apparently the Brewers puts on
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: social media or something. You know, the Cubs have this
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: flag they fly at Ridley after everyone in w The
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: Brewers on their website put an l flag. The Cubs
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: fans are ballistic. I mean that is the mildest, softest,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: nicest little tweak that you can imagine. They're like liberals.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: They can dish it out and they can't take anything.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: I know what it would have been like, we lost
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: this game. So they won, and let's see what they
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: can do from here on out. The other problem, of course,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: is just when you have to use just about everybody
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: in Game five and you play two days later, it's
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: an advantage for the team greater rest. They can reset
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: their pitching staff, the Dodgers and so on. But part
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: of that is the Dodgers finish their series off in
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: four games and the Brewers needed the five, so they
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: get that reward off of that. At least for the
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: Brewers by having home field, they get to stay home
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: and don't have to get on a plane and waste
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: a day on all of that. But there's only four
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: teams that are in it, and we're one of them,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: and that's a good thing. We'll save comments on our
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: other sports teams for another time. Anyway, that's it for
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  Speaker 2: today's podcast. Why don't you cobble together a thousand dollars
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: and go to a game? No, it's more fun to
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: be there. It's more fun to be there checking the
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: ticket prices and so on. What struck me is there
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: isn't the normal gap in which it's usually almost free
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: to sit in the corner of the up deck a
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: very expensive. The gap is it's not insanely expensive with
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: a great seat and really cheap for the bad seat.
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  Speaker 2: The range is closer together if you want to be
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: in the wall part right.
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