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Heritage Americans, Being White & Christian; Israel - Just asking Q; 60 Min. | Yaron Brook Show · Yaron Brook Show

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  Speaker 1: A lot of fundamental Christmas of edom, my actual self
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  Speaker 1: interest and the individual lots. This is the show. Oh right, everybody,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to your one book show on this Monday, December
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  Speaker 1: twenty second. I hope everybody is had had had a
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  Speaker 1: good weekend and this beginning of beginning this new week
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  Speaker 1: with a bank good. This will be a great week.
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  Speaker 1: It's the week of Christmas, so hopefully all looking forward
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  Speaker 1: to celebrating Christmas. I am. We've got shows all through
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  Speaker 1: an ame on Saturday, so please note that. No show
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday. And we've got Nicos Nicos on Monday, Nicos
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  Speaker 1: on Monday. Oh right, let's jump in to the US.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know about you guys, because I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what your news feed looks like. But my news feed,
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  Speaker 1: at least on Twitter, my news feed on Twitter. This
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  Speaker 1: this weekend and today was was packed full of Turning
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  Speaker 1: Point USA highlights from Turning Points USA. Indeed, this is
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  Speaker 1: this is quite an event because you got all the
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  Speaker 1: leading conservative pundits leaders, if you will, political leaders all
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  Speaker 1: the way up to JD. Vance, all coming and speaking
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  Speaker 1: to an audience of thousands, thousands of people committed to
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  Speaker 1: the MAGA Conservative MAGA Conservative ideas, three hundred thirty thousand
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  Speaker 1: attendees in Phoenix, Arizona, the home Charlie Cook's chosen home.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, it was a raucous event and there were
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people we talked last week about. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they had Ben Shapiro, Attacker Coulson the same day with
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  Speaker 1: what's his name, the British comedian right in between. But
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  Speaker 1: since then a lot has happened since you know, everybody's
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  Speaker 1: forgotten about Ben Shapiro and Anticker Coulson since well, no,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's still lots of commentary and it's going
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  Speaker 1: to continue because the Civil War, there was a real war.
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  Speaker 1: I call it intellectual, but it's such a low level
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  Speaker 1: that it's not really an intellectual it's not really an
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  Speaker 1: intellectual debate. But there is a there is a civil war.
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  Speaker 1: But within MAGA, within Turning Point USA, about how broad
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  Speaker 1: of a tent they want to have, should that tent
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  Speaker 1: include Nick Foyntes. There's some agreement there, maybe not Tucker
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  Speaker 1: Causon most people up, Yeah, we should include him, Cana
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  Speaker 1: so on. Well, now that we're split, we don't know.
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  Speaker 1: So we're going to talk We're going to talk about
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  Speaker 1: a lot of that. We're going to talk a lot
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  Speaker 1: of that that. But also i'd say some of the
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  Speaker 1: main themes, the main themes that animate the modern conservative movement,
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  Speaker 1: that animate Mega came across. There was a big emphasis
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  Speaker 1: on certain ideas. Again, calling them ideas is stretching the
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  Speaker 1: concept of an idea. But okay, we'll give them the
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  Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. And that's really where you know,
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about. So I want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about today. We'll talk about coming out of this conference
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  Speaker 1: Heritage Americans, and I'm going to show you a clip
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  Speaker 1: of Vivic addressing this. He does a I mean he
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  Speaker 1: does a reasonable you know, reasonable for the context, pretty
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  Speaker 1: lame philosophically, ideologically, but he does a reasonable job addressing
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  Speaker 1: these issues and some other issues which are which are
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  Speaker 1: pretty good. But then he's also has to cover a
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  Speaker 1: little bit because ultimately, you know, he's running for governor
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  Speaker 1: in Ohio. He can't alienate too many people, particularly not Trump.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll watch that, We'll watch a segment from gdve
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  Speaker 1: answers a speech about tying. You know, I mean the
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  Speaker 1: big question, the big intellectual question. I mean, this is
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  Speaker 1: the this is the key, the big intellectual question that
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  Speaker 1: MAGA is facing, that the conservative movement is facing, the
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  Speaker 1: national Conservatives is facing, the whole, really, the whole conservative
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  Speaker 1: movement is facing right now. I mean some of them,
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  Speaker 1: I think old line conservatives know the answer to this,
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  Speaker 1: but the modern conservatives, particularly young people, the big question is,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm just asking questions, by the way, the big
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  Speaker 1: question is what does it mean to be an American?
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  Speaker 1: What does it mean to be an American? And I
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  Speaker 1: have to say that there is massive confusion about what
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  Speaker 1: they're even talking about because they don't even know what
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  Speaker 1: they're talking about. And we'll get to that, we'll get
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  Speaker 1: to some of the gotcha contradictions. It gotcha is that
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  Speaker 1: they that each side of this debate has is it ideas,
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  Speaker 1: is it blood? Heritage? What is it? And can you
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  Speaker 1: be more American and less American? Uh? And yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean there's a book you guys should read. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: called a New Textbook on Americanism. Right, this is the book, right,
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  Speaker 1: this is signed rans you know, this issign Rand's answer
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  Speaker 1: to what it means to be an American, what it means,
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  Speaker 1: what is the basis of individual of Americanism, of the
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  Speaker 1: idea of America. Yeah, I don't think she come downs
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  Speaker 1: on heritage. I don't think she come down comes down
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  Speaker 1: on heritage. But it's interesting. The stuff she covers here
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  Speaker 1: is really, really, really interesting. But all right, we'll get
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  Speaker 1: to that. So we're gonna talk about that, and let's
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  Speaker 1: see what else do we want to talk about. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to talk about that. We're gonna talk about
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  Speaker 1: Christianity because Jade Vance comes out and says, well, to
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  Speaker 1: be an American in America is a Christian country, and
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  Speaker 1: here's all the Christian things the Trump administration has done.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit about that. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: heritage American is really white American. I mean, that's at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the day. So we'll talk about the
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  Speaker 1: whole issue of being white. A lot of backlash, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of a lot of you know, really upset comments
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  Speaker 1: on my video on on Matt Walsh's whole thing about
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  Speaker 1: about you know, pride in being white and all the
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  Speaker 1: achievements of white people and everything is worse off because
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  Speaker 1: we've we've you know, we've discriminated against whites. Uh so
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  Speaker 1: a lot of backlash against that. We'll talk about that,
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  Speaker 1: and then you know, we'll do a segment I want
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  Speaker 1: to do a segment on on we're just asking questions
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  Speaker 1: about Israel. So let's ask questions and and let's do
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  Speaker 1: something they never do. Let's do something they actually consistently
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  Speaker 1: evade evade, and that is, let's answer those questions rationally
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  Speaker 1: based on facts. Let's actually answer the questions based on reality,
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  Speaker 1: and and let's see where that takes. Maybe we'll agree
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  Speaker 1: with candicewone at Tucker causon after we've asked the questions,
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  Speaker 1: and I think, you know, to really answer the questions
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  Speaker 1: about Israel, particularly with regard to the United States and
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  Speaker 1: this relationship to the United States, you have to know
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  Speaker 1: what America is because in order to know what American
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  Speaker 1: interests are, what is in the American America's interests, which
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  Speaker 1: is key to any foreign policy question. To asking questions
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  Speaker 1: about Israel, which to logic then means asking questions about
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  Speaker 1: the relationship between American and Israel. You have to know
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  Speaker 1: what America is, what America's interests are, what does it
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  Speaker 1: mean to be pro American, what it means to be
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  Speaker 1: advantageous to America or against America. And you know, after
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  Speaker 1: all that, and it's going to be a while we'll
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  Speaker 1: talk about what happened with sixty minutes this last weekend
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  Speaker 1: and where we go from here, because it's not a
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  Speaker 1: good sign. But you know, but maybe maybe maybe maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's overstated. It's hard to tell from what's being written
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  Speaker 1: about it exactly what is going on, what's objective, But
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  Speaker 1: I think over time we'll find out, but it is
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  Speaker 1: it is interesting what happened at sixty minutes over the weekend,
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  Speaker 1: worst story was pulled, where story was pulled at the
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  Speaker 1: last minute. All right, so let's start with, you know,
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  Speaker 1: with this idea that is prevalent out there, it seems
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  Speaker 1: to be rising up there. Put it that way, it
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  Speaker 1: seems to be increasing out there with regard to you know,
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  Speaker 1: this idea of Americans fundamentally heritage Americans, that is, you're
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  Speaker 1: more American american Ism, be an American, not Americananism, but
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  Speaker 1: being an American is you can you can put it
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  Speaker 1: on a spectrum right right, and and it's basically based
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  Speaker 1: on how far back your ancestors go on American soul.
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  Speaker 1: How many wars your ancestors fought in? How many? I
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  Speaker 1: don't know this. It's almost like an intersectionality thing where
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  Speaker 1: we can rank Americans. But I guess you get a
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  Speaker 1: point for every five points for war and a point
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  Speaker 1: for for you know, an ancestor. And the further back
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  Speaker 1: you go, the more points you get. That is an
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  Speaker 1: eleven generation back, you get one hundred points. And if
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  Speaker 1: it's just one generation, you get five points. And if
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  Speaker 1: you're an immigrant, you get zero points. And and based
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  Speaker 1: on that we decide who are the good guys and
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  Speaker 1: who are the bad guys, Who's real Americans and who
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  Speaker 1: like still in probation Americans? And you know, so let's
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  Speaker 1: let's watch Vivick's answer to this and and his framing
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  Speaker 1: of it, and and and look, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: flaws in what Vivic is gonna say. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to jump on Vivic. He's in a tricky situation's
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  Speaker 1: running for governor. He's a politician. He in many respects
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  Speaker 1: I think lost his soul in it when he supported
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  Speaker 1: Trump the way he did. I give him credit for
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  Speaker 1: leaving Doge realizing it was a sham and it was
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  Speaker 1: never gonna happen. So he left. He left right at
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  Speaker 1: the beginning, if you remember, Doge was him and Musk,
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  Speaker 1: and then right before inauguration, I think before Dog even
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  Speaker 1: got started. He left because he knew it was a sham.
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  Speaker 1: He's he's talking to turning points. You was say, he's
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  Speaker 1: turning to people who've already heard from a lot of
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  Speaker 1: Maga people and a lot of heritage American type people,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of people, you know, raising the Christian flag.
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  Speaker 1: So he knows his audience. So given all that, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to I'm not trying to whitewash, but
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  Speaker 1: given all that, it's it's pretty good. It's pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty good. It it as we'll see, misses some fundamentals,
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  Speaker 1: but it's pretty good. Now, I'm gonna play it at
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  Speaker 1: at one point two five speed just because we don't
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  Speaker 1: have time, right, we could be here all day. There's
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  Speaker 1: there's many minutes here, and you know, you know me,
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  Speaker 1: after fifteen seconds, I'm gonna stop this and comment. It'll
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  Speaker 1: take all day just to go through the video. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna pay one point two five speech this
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  Speaker 1: and very cold. He talks a little fast, so I
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  Speaker 1: hope you guys can okay, But it's a political speech.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like that. There's any deep ideas here. It's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of rah rah kind of stuff. So it
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't be too hard, all right? What else? What else
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  Speaker 1: do do we wanna do we want to say? Here? Uh? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: all right, let's let's supplay this. Let's see. All right,
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  Speaker 1: here we go. Let me know if there are any
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  Speaker 1: audio or any other issues.
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  Speaker 2: Does it mean to be an American in the your
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenties?
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  Speaker 1: Say, that's the key question.
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  Speaker 3: There are three competing visions right now in the country,
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  Speaker 3: and it's worth seeing them.
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  Speaker 2: For what they are.
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  Speaker 3: The first two are wrong, and my view the third
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  Speaker 3: one is unambiguously correct.
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  Speaker 2: The first of those visions come from the woke left.
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  Speaker 3: The woke left says your identity is based on your race,
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  Speaker 3: your gender, your sexuality, your genetics. That if you're black,
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  Speaker 3: you're a woman or your sexual minority, you're somehow oppressed.
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  Speaker 2: If you're a white male who's straight, you're privileged.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way that you're racing, your gender and
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  Speaker 3: your sexuality determine who you are and what you can
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  Speaker 3: believe in life.
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  Speaker 2: Congressoman Ion oppress.
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  Speaker 3: Lely of the Squad famously said, we don't want any
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  Speaker 3: more black faces that don't want to be a black voice.
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  Speaker 3: We don't want any more brown faces that don't want
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  Speaker 3: to be a brown voice.
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  Speaker 2: Think about that. You're raising your gender to find who
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  Speaker 2: you are.
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  Speaker 3: Kennedy famously said, the remedy to pass discrimination is present discrimination.
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  Speaker 3: The remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination.
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  Speaker 2: And if you disagree with.
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  Speaker 3: That, you for the last four five years in this country,
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  Speaker 3: they labeled you a racist, a bigot, a homophobe, a transphobe,
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  Speaker 3: which created a new culture of fear in our country
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  Speaker 3: that spread like an epidemic, a fear that replaced our
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  Speaker 3: culture of free speech in the United States of America.
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  Speaker 3: And that was on America. And we defeated that woke
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  Speaker 3: left at the ballot box last year when we sent
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trump back to the White House in November of
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, thanks to the efforts of Charlie kirk
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  Speaker 3: Raft more than anybody.
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  Speaker 2: Else in this country.
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  Speaker 1: He is a good politician.
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  Speaker 2: That's the woke left's vision, and they get it wrong.
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  Speaker 1: And note that that's rights. That is the wolf Clift's
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  Speaker 1: vision of what it means to be an American. It
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  Speaker 1: is an identitarian racist vision of what it means to
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  Speaker 1: be an American. It's an identitarian racist vision that when
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  Speaker 1: they were making it for years, going back to twenty fifteen,
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  Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, since I've had this podcast, really
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  Speaker 1: i'd be saying to the left, beware, because this racist vision,
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  Speaker 1: it is only going to wake up a significant proportion
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  Speaker 1: of white Americans, is only going to wake up a
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  Speaker 1: significant proportion of people that you are tanking. They have
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  Speaker 1: a history of racism, they might resurrect that racism. You
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  Speaker 1: are giving them an okay, you're giving them a thumbs up.
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  Speaker 1: You're giving them okay to resurrect that racism. And whether
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  Speaker 1: you like it or not, they're still the majority in
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  Speaker 1: this country. So the response to this kind of identitarian
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  Speaker 1: leftism will be right wing identitarianism. And I was told
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  Speaker 1: by many of you on the chat, maybe not you
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  Speaker 1: here life now, but many people in the chat, that
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  Speaker 1: will never happen. Oh no, no, no, no. The right
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  Speaker 1: is not identitarian. The right is not racist. The right
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  Speaker 1: is pro individual rights and visualism. This is America, after all.
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  Speaker 1: They will never succumb to racism in response, and I said, yes,
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  Speaker 1: they will, and I was right again another one of
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  Speaker 1: those many, many many occasions where I have been right.
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  Speaker 1: The response of the right has been to embrace identitarianism.
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  Speaker 1: That will be as example number two of you know
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  Speaker 1: what it means to be an American identitarianism throughout it. Indeed,
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  Speaker 1: Matt Walsh's you know whole thing about white men and
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  Speaker 1: we built this and we created that, and white men
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  Speaker 1: did this, and the world is worse off if you
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  Speaker 1: discriminate against white men. And I'm proud of you know,
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  Speaker 1: we should be proud of, you know, being white men. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's a direct response to the left. Absolutely, I acknowledge that,
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  Speaker 1: there's no question about that. But you basically bought into
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  Speaker 1: all of their assumptions, you bought into their rhetoric, you've
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  Speaker 1: bought into their racism, you bought into their bigotry, and
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  Speaker 1: you've embraced it. You've made it part of you. And
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  Speaker 1: in that sense, in that sense, as really always happens,
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  Speaker 1: the left has won. But the left always wins. The
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  Speaker 1: left one on welfare, the left one on regulation, The
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  Speaker 1: left one on the welfare state, the regulatory state, everything
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  Speaker 1: everything to reduce individual liberty. The left has one the
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  Speaker 1: right embraces all of those who's the biggest defender of
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  Speaker 1: so security medicare today. It's the right that means the
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  Speaker 1: left one a long time ago. And now they've won
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  Speaker 1: on racism. Their intersectionality is victorious. We all embrace that,
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  Speaker 1: I mean all the not we all that the people
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  Speaker 1: on the right of all embraced identitarianism. Oh, you want
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  Speaker 1: to claim black pride, So here's white pride in your face.
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  Speaker 1: Instead of saying, there is no such thing as black pride,
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  Speaker 1: there is no such thing as gay pride. There is
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  Speaker 1: no such thing as pride in somebody else's achievements. There
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  Speaker 1: is no such thing as pride in the color of
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  Speaker 1: your skin. That's stupid. Color of your skin is not
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  Speaker 1: an achievement. You should be proud of achievements. You should
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  Speaker 1: be proud of what you have done. You should be
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  Speaker 1: proud of your successes. You can't be part of I'm
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  Speaker 1: not proud of the fawning fathers. I admire them. I
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  Speaker 1: think there's some of the greatest human beings, in spite
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  Speaker 1: of their falls, who've ever lived. And I thank them,
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  Speaker 1: thank them for what they did. And I have and
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  Speaker 1: I will bet you anything you want. I have a
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  Speaker 1: greater appreciation for the Fawning Fathers than they great great
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  Speaker 1: great great great great great great great great grandchildren who
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  Speaker 1: think that they should be proud because they're an ancest
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  Speaker 1: of I don't know, John Adams. They cannot be proud
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  Speaker 1: of that. It's fake. It's fake, it's make believe, it's delusional,
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  Speaker 1: it's pretend, and it you know, they're stating your pride
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  Speaker 1: in your ancestors, empties your capacity to be proud of yourself,
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  Speaker 1: empties your capacity to have self esteem, because it's a
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  Speaker 1: rejection of self. I'm just a bunch of Adams. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just a bunch of genes that happen to have this
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  Speaker 1: particular lineage. To really have a connection with the Founding Fathers,
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  Speaker 1: one must understand them, understand their achievement, appreciate achievement, be
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  Speaker 1: thankful for their achievement, and build on it by living
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  Speaker 1: the kind of life that the country they created, you know,
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  Speaker 1: deserves or or makes possible. Put it that way, makes
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  Speaker 1: possible living the best damned life you can. So the Left,
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  Speaker 1: in a sense started it. Of course, racism has a
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  Speaker 1: long tradition in America. You know, it's it's it really is,
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  Speaker 1: its original sin. It really is, you know, a foundational
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  Speaker 1: challenge to this country. Racism has been there from the beginning,
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  Speaker 1: and and it's horrific. It's it's unbelievable historical tragedy that
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  Speaker 1: the founders can see it. It's a you know, unbelievable
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  Speaker 1: that six hundred thousand men had to pay for it,
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  Speaker 1: not to mention all the slaves who paid for it.
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  Speaker 1: And the tragedy continued in the racism this country embraced,
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  Speaker 1: particularly in the South, but really throughout the country continually
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  Speaker 1: from that period through things like the Jim Crow laws
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  Speaker 1: and redlining and by government. So racism is a real
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  Speaker 1: part of this country. And in that sense, you can
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  Speaker 1: kind of understand people who are being discriminated against, you know,
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  Speaker 1: for generations, not for ten years, for generations. But now
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  Speaker 1: whites have awoken because for the last ten years they
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  Speaker 1: be discriminated against because of DII, Oh my god, all hell.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: And they compare, they compare what they what's been done
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: to them to what was done to others for generations.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Of course, it's much worse because it was done to them,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: and the world is a much worse place because it's
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: been done to them. And they evade completely the decades
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: and decades and decades and decades of discrimination, and they
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: inflicted on others that didn't exist. So yeah, one discrimination
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: does not justify another, and there's no justification of DEI.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: But stop complaining, get rid of DEI, and move on.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: All right, I'd moved away from Vivic. I got excited him.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: All right, let's see his second wrong view of what
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: makes an American.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: When I left my career as a biotech CEO and
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: I was talking to people in Silicon Valley Wall Street
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: about this, that took courage.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: It doesn't take that much courage for me.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: To come here and tell you all about criticizing the
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: woke left Noll.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Let me get to the heart apartment.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: There's a different vision of American identity that's emergent in
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: certain corridors of the online ride. And it says that
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: your identity as an American is based on your lineage,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: that how long you have been in the country, your
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: lineage and your genetics tied to the blood and soil
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: of the country, determines how American you are. It is
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: the idea of a heritage American that says the truest
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: format of an American is somebody who is a descendant
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: of the American Revolution period or before. And I will
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: tell you this idea of the heritage American. We ought
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: to have this discussion. It's becoming more popular. I think
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: the idea of a heritage American is about as looney
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: as anything the woke left has actually put up.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Good for vivic just that line is worth it right,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Just as looney as anything the left is put up
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: exactly and it is leftists in that sense that it's
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: completely embracing the ideas of the left, the identitarian ideas
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: of the left and the victimhood you know that the
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: left had. Well, that relates to the other point I
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: made before. Let's keep going.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: There is no American who is more American than somebody else.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: The American quality. It's not like the left.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: They believe in this non binary stuff. There's non binary American.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: It is binary. Either you're an American or you're not.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: And you think about it. I could prove this study. Think
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: I'll take some applause on that. If you really believe
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: in this idea, think about where it leads you. Leads
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: you to believe that Donald Trump is less of an
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: American than Joe Biden because Johnald Trump's mother was an
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: immigrant and his grandfather was an immigrant. That doesn't make
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: any sense.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to have these intersectionality degrees of Americans.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Leads you to believe that somehow Bernie Sanders is more
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: of an American than Senator Bernie Moreno, from my home state,
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: an America First Patriot, because Bernie Moreno was a naturalized
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: citizen from Columbia. It makes you think that Marco Rubio,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: our great Secretary of State, is somehow less of an
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: American than Elizabeth Warren because she's a native American, which
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: we all know right doesn't make any sense.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: It's learning, it's crazy talking.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: It makes you believe that somehow I am less of
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: an American than the transgender criminal who assassinated Charlie Kirk.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: We refuse to accept that the idea that a heritage.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: American is a more American than another American is on
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: American at its core.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: That is absolutely right. Good for Phivic for saying it, and.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: I will fight to the very end for that because
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: that's what it means to be an American.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: We believe in ideals. That is who we are.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: So America is about ideals. Absolutely Now he doesn't quite
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: get the ideals right, but at least he understands that
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: it's about ideas. That's what America is. Now we'll talk
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: about what it means when they say an American is
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: What does even that mean? We'll get to that in
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: a minute.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: What does it mean to be an American in the
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: year twenty twenty six? It means we believe in those
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: ideals of seventeen seventy six. It means we believe in merit,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: that the best person gets the job, regardless of their
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: skin color.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Is that in the declaration I mean independence? It is
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: in a sense of all mean a created eco, you know,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: and in doubt by they created by these inalienable rates.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: But you know, sadly in seventeen seventy six they didn't
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: believe in it, because of course they had slavery, which
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: is all a lot worse than dei ut, worse than
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: affirmative action. But so I wouldn't go there. If I
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: was describing American ideals, I wouldn't start with that merit.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Merit in and of itself is not noe. You'll note
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: as you go through this, think about what he's not,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Think about what he's not talking about Think about what
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: he's not mentioning that you get.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Ahead in this country not on the color of your skin,
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: but on the content of your character and your contributions. Yes,
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: it means we believe in the rule of law. And
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: I say this as the proud son of legal immigrants
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: to this country. That means your first act of entering
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: this country cannot break the law. And that is why
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: we have sealed to the southern border. And we won't
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: not apologize for it.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: See that's why he sells out right. So really is
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: the first example of the rule of law the illegal immigrants,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: That is the first one. That is the first example,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: the only example he gives to the rule of law.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I mean it plays the crowd again. He's a politician.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: He's running, he's running for governor. So there he is.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Somebody says freedom. It's not even freedom that he's not saying.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: There's something else, because a nation without borders is not
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: a nation.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Doesn't mean to be American.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: It means we believe in free speech and open debate,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: even for those who disagree with us. From Nick Fuentis
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: to Jimmy Kimmel, you get to speak your mind in
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: the open without the government censoring you. It means you
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: go to a college campus, you speak without fear, that
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: words are not violence, that violence is violence, and violence
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: is never an acceptable response to words. That too, is
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: what it means to be a citizen of this country
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: who believes in free speech in America. It's not just
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: our constitutional principles. It also means that we believe in
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: the culture that was born of those principles.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: It means so would we.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Believe in accountability well, that were brave, that were courageous,
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: even heroic when called upon to do what is right
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: for our country in our hour of need.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: It means that as Americans, we take risks.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Sometimes we fail, but we pick ourselves up and we
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: take those risks again. That we encounter hardship from time
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: to time, but hardship is not the same thing as victimhood.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: It means that we are ambitious, that we're curious about
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: on the moon to Mars, curious.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: About the world around us.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: As our founding fathers were still believing, that it is
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: our manifest destiny to lead it and our duty to
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: die for that country if we are called to do so.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: That well duty. We can talk about duty sometimes, but
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: duty today fout country. Nobody has a duty today for
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: the country that is collectivistic, nationalistic, bs as I said, full.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Of flaws, is what it means to be a citizen
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: of this country. There are those more skeptical of this
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: vision of America, those more skeptical of the American dream,
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: especially young people.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: And I hear you on that. We'll come to that
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: in a second.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: But I would rather live in a country that has
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: those ideals and falls short of them than to live
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: in a country with no ideals at all.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Now, notice what ideals? What did he skip right? What
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: is he not mention from the Declaration of Independence? What
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: does he not mention as a principle of this country?
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: What does he not mention that, you know a man
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: identifies as the core idea of this country. What he
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: doesn't mention is the concept of the individual rights. What
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: is the basic principle of America, Heyman says, the basic
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: principle of the United States of America. This is on
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: the Textbook of Americanism edited by Jonathan Honing. You should
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: all have a copy of this and read it. The
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: basic principle of the United States of America is individualism.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: America is built and the principle that man possesses inalienable rights,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: That those rights belong to each man as an individual,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: not to men as a group or collective. That the
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: rights are unconditional private, personal, individual possessions of each man,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: not the public social, collective possession of a group, even
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: if that group happens to be heritage Americans. That these
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: rights are granted to man by the fact of his
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: birth as a man, not as an act of society. Ooh,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: That means immigrants, even those who might be quote illegal,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: might have rights, might have rights because they're human. That
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: men hold these rights not from the collective, nor from
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: the collective. No from the collective, No for the collective.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: So not from the collective, not for the collective, but
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: against the collective as a barrier which the collective cannot cross.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: That these rights are man's protection against all other men.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: That only on the basis of these rights can men
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: have a society of freedom, justice, human dignity, and decency.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Now that's a statement of Americanism that goes to the core,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: that goes to the philosophical core of what it means
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: to be America, what makes America difference. She rights the
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Constitution of the United States of America is not a
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: document that limits the rights of man, but a document
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: that limits the power of society over man. So what
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: he's not mentioning is rights. Individualism. Now, individualism is somewhat
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: implicit in what he says, But the core idea to
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: take out of seventeen seventy six is not merit. The
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: co idea to take out of seventeen seventy six is rights.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: It's individual rights. It's a sanctity of the individual. And
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: it's what conservatives today cannot even say. They cannot talk
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: about individual rights. They cannot talk it about individualism versus collectivism.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: They're so immersed in the collectivism, so embraced it. And
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: when you embrace a little bit of collectivism, ultimately, ultimately
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: it will chip away. It's your ability to think about individualism,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: to think about individual rights, and over time you become
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: more and more and more of a collectivist. And that's
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: where we are today. Today, the conservative movement has embraced whiteness,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: it's embraced heritage, it's embraced the genes. That's what it
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: means to be an American. Now we'll talk about this
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: idea of you know, is being an American binary and
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: in worth sense that is true or false? Right, Well,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: let's do now. So one of the critics of vivic
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: you know, he said, if you believe that you know,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: you have a you have to have a heritage. Then
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: what that means is that, uh, you know, Donald Trump
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: is less an American than Joe Biden because his mother
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: was an immigrant. Right, So it's by it's it's so
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: here's the response of a people, uh that are struggling
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: with this idea, right, Uh, struggling with this is he
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: is christophyful? Right? Chrisoff writes, I'm not persuaded that the
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: America is purely a creed a nation, but the argument
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: here seems to point towards radical conclusions. A mean, for
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: wasps who believe in DEI not American because they don't
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: accept the founding ideas, should we strip them of citizenship?
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Interesting question, what do you mean when you say an American?
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Do you mean a citizen? Well, then that's that's a
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: legal definition your citizen of the United States. If you
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: have a US passport in the world in which we
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: live today, a US passport makes you an American citizen.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: That's it. Whether you believe in the Founding ideas or
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: don't believe in the Founding ideas. Whether you believe in
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: the Founding ideas or don't believe in the Founding ideas,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: you are a US citizen because you have a passport.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Now I have a view of citizenship that is controversial.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: That is, you know, you know for an ideal state. Well,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think that should be true. I think everybody
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: should pass the test. You know, to become a citizen.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: You can live in America, But to be a citizen,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: for example, to vote, you should have knowledge of certain ideals,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: and you should at least at some level accept the
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: basic principles of the government that you're voting for. So
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: including if you're boning here, you should still pass the test.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Everybody should pass the citizenship test. In other words, but
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: that's not the world we live in. In this world,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: if you have a basketball to you an American. But
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: it's not what we're really talking about. We're not talking
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: about that. We're talking about what it actually means, what
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: America means, what Americanism means, what to be an American
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: fully means. And in that sense, a descendant from the
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Mayflower who believes in DII is less of an American
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: in her spirit, in her soul, ideologically and spiritually, she
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: is less of an American. This is then, somebody who
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: understands that declaration independence, understand the idea of individual rights,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: and understands that America is the land of individuals, and
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: lives in acts based on that. There is no equality
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: in that sense. There are two senses of American. One
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: is a legal sense, the other is a spiritual sense,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: and Americans are not equally American in a spiritual sense. Vivic,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: in my view, is much more American than JD Events
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: because Vivic has some understanding of the funding principles, and
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: JED Events seems at least not to have any. Elizabeth
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Warren is far less of an American than I am,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: even though I am an immigrant, because she has no understanding,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: and to the extent that she does, she doesn't live it.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: She lives to destroy it. People who lived to destroy
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: America are spiritually at least less American. He has met Walsh,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: responding to Vivic, Here's a fatal flaw in this argument,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: and not the only one. What about an American who
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: can trace the ancestry back four hundred years in this country,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: but who doesn't fully agree with the creed of the
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: American Founding. However, Vivic defines it is he less American
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: than a Somali who came here legally five seconds ago
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: and claims to agree with that creed. See this is
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: the confusion. Nobody can say, No, I mean, is he
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: less of an American? But this logic, if it's a creed,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: if you don't agree with the creed, do you become
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: a non American? Well not in the legal sense. Again,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: the person who's been here four hundred years has exactly
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: the same rights as a Somali who got his passport yesterday,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: exactly the same rights. They're both American legally, they're equal
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: spiritually of their American. The guy who's been here ancestors,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: been here four hundred years, who does not agree with
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: the creed of the American Founding is spiritually not an American.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: And if America lived up to its promise, might even
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: leave the Somali to the extent that he learns that creeds,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: understands that creed, and lives that creed, embraces what it
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: means to be in America, is indeed spiritually more of
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: an American than the four hundred year whatever ancestral person. Legally,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: they're the same. Spiritually. Absolutely, you can rank Americans. You
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: can rank Americans by the extent to which they live
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: up to the principles. By the way, Richiel Hanania has
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: a pretty good essay on Heritage Americans. It's quite good. Again,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: I think Richard is one of the better thinkers out
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: there in the world today. Now, he's not an objectivist,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: and you can see he lacks that, but he's good
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: on a lot of things. And I don't think he
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: can see this differentiation between kind of a spiritual and
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: illegal which is but then again, I'm not sure anybody can.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: But what he does see is the complete nonsense of
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: the collectivism as it's being expressed by these right wingers.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: You know, as part of his attacks on h on
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: this heritage American him, he's been quoting Iron Rand. Here's
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: a quote for Iron Rand on heritage Americans. Not really
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: because it wasn't a concept, but he's a quote from
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: irand from her essay on racism. Quote justice. There is
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: no such thing as a collective racial mind. There's no
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: such thing as a collective or racial achievement. There are
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: only individual minds and individual achievements, And a culture is
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: not the anonymous product of undifferentiated masses, but the sum
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: of the intellectual achievements of individual men. A genius is
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: a genius regardless of the number of morons who belong
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: to the same race, and a moron is a moron
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: regardless of the number of geniuses who share his racial origin.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Iron Man just has a way of just saying it absolutely.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Here's another quote, another quote from Man from the same essay,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: the bum. And here here we could incorporate a bunch
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: of the speakers at any point USA under this category.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: The bum who boasts that his great grandfather was an
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: empire builder, or the small town spinster who boasted her
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: maternal great uncle was a state senator and her third
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: cousin gave a concert at Carnegie Hall, as if the
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: achievement of one man could rub off on the mediocrity
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: of another. The parents who search genealogical trees in order
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: to evaluate their prospective son in laws. All these are
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: samples of racism. So when I called Matt Walsh racism,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: I was using Ironman's approach to racism. When you take
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: pride and achievements of other white individuals who happen to
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: be white. You are being a racist, all right? How
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: are we doing on time? Oh my god, I've already
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: got forty five minutes just on this and I and
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I and I all right, I think what did I
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: want to? I want to I wanted another segment of
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: vivic and then we'll we'll move on this. Today's show
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: is going to go long, so please consider supporting the
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: show because we're going to go into the third hour
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: easily today. So let me go to eleven thirty seven.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: I'd say it, Hey, let's listen.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: It's a free country. But you have no place in
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: the conservative movement.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: If you believe in.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: Normalizing hatred towards any ethnic group, toward Whites, towards Blacks,
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: towards Hispanics, towards Jews, towards Indians, you have no place
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: in the future of the conservative movement period. And I
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: will not apologize for that. I will not hedge if
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: you believe, and you will forgive me for giving you
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: an exact quote from our online commentator Nick Fouentz. If
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: you believe that Hitler was pretty fucking cool, you have
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: no place in the future of the conservative movement. You
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: can debate foreign am Israel all you want. That's fine,
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: that's fair, but you have no place with that level
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: of hatred. You can debate the right resolution of the
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Russia Ukraine War, but if you believe Joseph Stalin is
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: someone to look up to, you have no place in
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: the future of.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: The conservative movement. If you call Usha Vance the.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Second Lady of the United States of America a jeat,
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: you have no place in the future of the conservative movement.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: And if you can't say those things without stuttering, then
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: you have no place as a leader at any level
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: in the conservative movement either, certainly not in my stateable higher.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Now, I mean, good for him for saying all that,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: but you have to say, it's pretty pathetic that he
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: has to. It's pretty pathetic that somebody has to stand
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: on a stage and say, as conservatives, we reject people
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: who support Hitler. As conservatives, we reject racists. As conservatives,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: we should denounce those things without stuttering. That is really pathetic.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Then anybody actually has to stand up and say it.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: We really are in a very strange place in America today,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: a strange place where we are seeing something that I
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: think many of US thought was gone racism. I mean
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: ten years ago, I don't think this was in the cards.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think very many people saw this, or maybe
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: fifteen years ago. Maybe ten years ago I could see it.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Fifteen years ago, I couldn't that racism would become the
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: central focus on the left and on the right, that
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: racism would start to define the politics of America. That
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: the Vice President of the United States couldn't condemn somebody
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: in a speech who called his wife a jeet, although
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: he did in an interview say it's my family, so
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: I'll protect them. So he is out. Nick foyntis is
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: out that JD. Van said. But then when he comes
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: to take cass and he said, look, he has a
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: big audience and he's my friend and all this stuff,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: and he didn't say that. So he's a good guy.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: He's in. I mean, maybe tomorrow we'll talk about Jdvans.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know that we have time today to talk
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: about him. But yeah, it is, it is. It is
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: a pretty pretty pretty amazing to me. You know, the
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: state of the world, the state of the Republican Party,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: the state of the right. We know the left is bad.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: That's been true forever that's the very nature of the
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: left to be collectivistic, socialistic and just bad, god damn awful.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: But there was some virtue on the right, and part
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: of the virtue on the right was that they seem
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: to have rejected, you know, the explicitness of collectivism. They
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: were more implicitly collectivistic, more implicity. Now collectivism is braced
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: on both sides. I want to give you an example here.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is some of the some of the
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: comments you know on on my you know video on
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Matt Walsh white unity above all else. Really, I mean this,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: this is this is the insanity. Yeah. Other people are
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: trying to claim that Matter is not actually praising people
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: for the color of the skin. He's just and he's
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: not taking pride in it. But he is he says
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: it explicitly explicitly. Somebody else is. No one is, uh, No,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: one is arguing that skin color determines things. If I
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: go to a tanning salon and get darka skin, it
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: doesn't make me dumber. Well in your case, John, maybe
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: it does. Skin color is an aspect of race, which
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: is meaningless, right, It's a meaningless concept. So it's it's
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: an aspect of what of of of of of your
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: genes which make you what you know. Anyway, well, let's
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: let's skip that because I'm not fighting the comments I
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: wanted bit. Uh. It's it's sad. It saddens me that
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: so much of time now is spent on talking about
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: this garbage, uh, instead of instead of covering the news
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: and actually what's going on in the world and other stuff. Uh,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: you know, and and it sadden me. The cowardice that
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: we're seeing. Uh. And chief among the cowards right now
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: is is JD. Vans. All right, let's see, Uh, what
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: did I want to do here? We're gonna skip that.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna skip this. Let's skip that. Yeah, maybe tomorrow
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: we'll talk about jad Evans and and what he had
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: to say. Here's the thing, So I want to talk
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: about Israel a little bit. So a lot of people
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: in defending you talk about you see this, Uh mean
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Kelly does this? JD. Vance does it? Uh you know,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: and uh uh you know constant uh and uh and
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: others think it. You know. Uh. Look, all all techer
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Calson is doing is asking questions about Israel. He's not
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: an anti Semite. All Candice o On is just she's
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: asking questions about the Jews. She's not an anti Semite.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: It's just questions, right, It's legitimate ask questions. And Techer
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Carlson keeps asking, you know, look, I don't hate Israel.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: I don't hate I just wonder should Israel? Should America
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: support is well to the extent that it does? And
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: uh and uh, you know what about all this influence
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: that Israel has over American presidents and and uh and
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: and over American and what about all the lobbying? And
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: now I don't believe any of that is honest. And
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: the reason I don't believe any of it is honest,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: and I don't believe you guys among you the chat
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: who are just asking questions about Israel, who are concerned
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: then supporting Israel is not an American interest. I don't
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: think your questions are honest, and I don't think your
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: advocacy for America and interests is honest because the answers
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: to these questions are not that hard, and yet they
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: never engage with Chucket doesn't actually bring anybody on to
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: ask real questions about American interests. I mean a great
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: example of this is something that happened again and to
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: any point, you say, Ben Shapiro was asked, and then
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: it became a storm on the internet and everywhere and everybody.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: It was over all of it is if Israel is
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: such a great ally of the United States, This is
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: the question being asked others. This has been asked for
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: years and years. I've heard this question being answered twenty
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: five years since I got on a stage. If Israel
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: is such an ally of the United States, how do
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: you explain the bombing of the USS Liberty in nineteen
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: sixty seven during the Sixth Day War by the Israeli
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Air Force. It was a US ship, it was bombed
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: and there were casualties, and you know, Benheba gave an
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: answer which was basically the right answer. And it doesn't
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: matter to anybody. It didn't change anybody's mind. It doesn't matter.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: But you shouldn't even answer a question like that because
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: let's assume, for the sake of argument, let's assume the worst.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Let's assume that in nineteen sixty seven the government of
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Israel decided that America was actually its enemy and they
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: hated America, and that is part of a war which
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: they engaged in against. Was it five of the armies
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: of five other Arab countries on three different battlefields where
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: they were dramatically outnumbered and outgunned. As part of that war,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: they decided there would be in Israel's best interest to
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: bomb an American ship. Let's assume all of that is right,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: and they bombed the ship. And later on they realized
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: that it was probably wrong, that you know, America is
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: probably not the enemy, and they shouldn't have done it,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: and they apologized profusely, and they claimed there was an accident,
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: and they paid reparations. They actually paid reparations to the
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: servicemen who are who aho who killed or injured, to
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: their families. Let's assume all of that is true. And
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: with that came a realization it just hit the Israeli
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: politicians they hate. Maybe America could be a good friend,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe we could work together with America. Maybe we could
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: support American, get America to support us. And you know,
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: since then they have worked with America, cooperated with America,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: providing intelligence to America, bought American weapons systems, supported America,
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: you know, whenever it needed, you know, and whatever. Way
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: is all tiny, little, tiny little today, you know, nine
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: ten million people, a tiny little sliver of the Middle
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: East wherever it could supported America in whatever way it could.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Let's assume the Liberty was an act of premeditated, horrible
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: violence against America, and since then is all changed his mind.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: Does that make Israel a villain that we should turn
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: away from today? Does that make Israel against American interests
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: to support? Israel does not buy American weapons with money
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: America gives it some. America gives it three point eight
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: billion dollars which it uses to buy American weapons, but
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: it buys more than three point eight billion dollars worth
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: of weapons. It spends its own money buying weapons. Indeed,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: has since America started selling it weapons I think in
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: nineteen sixty two for the first time, but really only
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: after nineteen sixty seven. And think about this about the
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: USS Liberty. Imagine the story is true that Israel did
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: it purposefully because it hates America. Why is it that
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: before nineteen sixty seven, i e. Before the bombing of
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: the USS Liberty, America basically had an armsimbogo in Israel
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: from nineteen forty eight. From the establishment of the State
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: of Israel till nineteen sixty two, America sold no weapons
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: to Israel zero, not a zilch. From nineteen sixty two
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: until nineteen sixty seven, the US sold Israel very very
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: very very few US weapons. By the way, in those days,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: the United States gave nothing to Israel, zero, not a zilch,
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: intos of money. So all that weapons that Israel bought
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: from nineteen sixty seven on until really, I think the
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: peace agreement with Egypt in nineteen seventy nine, all of
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: that was Israeli money buying American weapons. Now think about so,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: you know, why would it be if Israel did that
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: out of malice? Did America start supporting Israel nineteen sixty
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: seven because the Johnston administration and then the Nixon administration
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: were just idiots and they didn't care. Is that it? No?
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Because they acknowledged as too reports to investigations by the US,
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: acknowledged as investigations by the Israeli Army, acknowledge the USS
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: Liberty was an error. Friendly fire. Americans have been killed
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: by friendly fire from British troops, Canadian troops, Danish troops. Indeed,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: more Americans were killed by friendly fire in the First
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: Golf War from American troops. American troops killing American troops
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: than the iraqis killed. Friendly fire happens all the time
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: in war A, Israel as apologized, paid reparations, investigated. Friendly
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: fire happens. So why is the liberty brought up every
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: single time when even if you interpret it in the
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: worst way possible, it's irrelevant because nobody's interested in fact,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: nobody's interested in does the US Israeli relationship is it
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: positive for the US? All they care about is denouncing Israel.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: All they care about is making it look bad. Why
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: would they want to do that? Why would they care
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: so much about making Israel look bad? If it's not
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: motivated by anti Semitism, if it's not motivated by hatred
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: of successful Jews running a civilized country, because that's what
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: pisses them off. What pisses people off more than anything,
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: is not just Jews. It's successful Jews who have the
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: audacity or in Hebrew we say the chutzpa to defend
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: themselves and to be good at it and to crush
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: their enemies. How frigging dare them? They anti Semitism lies
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: behind all these asking questions. Let's take another question, take
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: another question. I don't know, and you guys ask me
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: questions about questions the Tucker Coffson might ask about Israel
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: questions right legit questions should we be supporting? I mean,
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: is a relationship with Israel three point eight billion dollars.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of money. That's a lot of money.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: It is three point eight billions, a lot of money.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: But that's all. That's it. Three point eight It's not
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: tens of billions, not hundreds of billions. It's three point
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: eight billion a year. That three point eight billion is
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: less than one tenth of one percent I think of
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: less than one fifth or one percent of federal spending.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: It's not even that huge of a percentage of fearn ade.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: Why are people not upset about all the other farn
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: aid do we give? That is clearly not then spent
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: to buy US weapons systems, and there for the money
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: all flow back into Why are we not upset by
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: all the aid and protection and money and effort we
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: spent protecting people who are often our enemies, like the
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Saudis for years, for decades, we've been protecting them, early
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: since World War Two? What is it about the piece
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Israel gets versus what everybody else gets that makes all
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: the focus on that, and none of the focus on
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: the rest of it. And why is it You know
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: that it's small. Three point eight billion a year is
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: a lot of money for me, for you, it's not
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: that much in the full context of how much the
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: US government spends, and all that money goes comes back
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: into the United States in arms purchases. Why is that
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: never talked about? And you know what, I'm quite happy
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: to say, Israel shouldn't get a dime. It shouldn't get
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: a dime. If you're willing to stop giving any money
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: to Egypt and Jordan and all the other Arab countries
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: and all the African countries and all the Asian countries
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: and everybody else, I'm quite happy to make fron AID
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: zero zero, including Israel. Why isn't that the discussion. Why
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: is the discussion about fron aid? Why is it about Israel?
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: Because because this clearly bias against his or there's clearly
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: hatred of Israel, and people exaggerate the size of it.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: Of course they have no idea, So I challenged them online,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: go check, it's not that much money US and your
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: budget is seven trillion. You do the math, and three
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: point eight out of seven it's less than a tenth
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: of absent. It's not one hundredth quite, but it's anyway
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: half of a tenth, all right, So other questions, what's
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: another question? We get, Yeah, what apart is to get
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: so much money from a pack And APAK is the
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: most powerful lobbying group in the entire world. It's it's
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: it controls Americans, it controls American politics. Indeed, it's because
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: of APAC that the United States entered the war with
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: you Rock. But it turns out that's just nonsense. APAK
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: is a big lobby They lobby like a lot of
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: other organizations. They spent a lot of money. It's just
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: like lots of other organizations spend it. But the reality
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: is the Katari's Kato member Katta Katara the best country,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: according to the Tucker Costa best. He's gonna buy a
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: home there. He won't even buy a home in Moscow,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: but he's willing to do it in Doha. Coutelli spent
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: more money on lobbying, much more. And it's spent a
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: huge amount of money on American media, on paying certain podcasters,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: endowing lots and lots of universities with huge amounts of money,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: often in the condition that they don't say anything negative
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: about KATA, And these universities agree. They found Middle East
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: Studies program all over the place. And yes, our politicians
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: get a lot of money from Doha from KATA. Why
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: is that now mentioned in the same breath as APEC.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: What is different about APEX than all the other lobbying
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: organizations out there? I mean Israel, does you know the
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: logic Stent his own? The relationship with America is really
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: really important to them. It is all survival is made
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: much easier with a friendship with America. Why wouldn't you
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: try to lobby for that? Why wouldn't you try to
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: show people? But it's not that influential because the question
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: is often asked is oh, you know, I have to
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: say something about the invasion of Iraq. Israel actually told
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: the United States not to invade Iraq. There would be
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: a quagmire, they would not be good in the second
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: time and the first time, you know, in nineteen ninety
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: one when they invaded Iraq, when they kicked I Rock
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: out of Quait, missiles were launched in Israel constantly, and
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: the United States forced Israel not to respond. ISRAELI sacked
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: and just had missiles dropping on their homes. They didn't
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: have any defense system like they do now, and they
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: couldn't send their own planes to go shoot the rocket
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: launchers in Iraq because they promised whoops, no audio, no audio, guys.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: Lincoln says, no audio. Is that his problem and his thing?
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: Or is that a problem with all of you? One? Two,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: three audio? Anybody else? Everybody else? Here's me fine, all right,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: It's all sat on their hands because the Americans asked
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: what other ally would accept that? I mean, I was
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: hugely critical of these release at the time. I thought
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: it was pathetic that is whate would do that. Is
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: Ael didn't encourage the United States and Vaidie Rock it
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: wasn't in Israel's interest for you Raq to become a
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: dependency of you on which is really intelligence predicted at
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: every level, at every level, Israel has supported the United States,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: not hoot it. Now take this idea that American presidents
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: always do what these Raelis want. That has never been
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: the case. In nineteen seventy three, Kissinger and Nixon stopped
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: these Raelis from crushing the Third Egyptian Army, which Israel
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: had surrounded, and forced Israel to the negotiating table was
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: said that overseas fire and again and again and again
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: Israelis were forced to do things they did not want
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: to do by the United States threat that they would
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: remove support from the Israeli state. You know, in nineteen
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: eighty three, eighty two, eighty two, eighty three, Israel had
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: Yes Or offered right way they wanted him. They had
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: the Palestinian Litia, you know, terrorist group, right way they
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: wanted it. They were gonna wipe them out in Western
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: Bayroot and Reagan said, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, yeah,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: you have to let them go. I mean they had
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: yes Oir Effort in the in the snipers. I mean
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: he was right there, literally, there's a photo and they
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  Speaker 1: couldn't pull the trigger because they promised Reagan. I mean
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  Speaker 1: that was a disaster for the Middle least, a disaster
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: for Israel that they couldn't kill Yes, err Efort. I mean,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: over and over and over again for decades now, Israel
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: has given up its own interests, in my view, sacrificially
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: and irrationally and imolly to appease American presidents. And yet
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: now it's being accused that America is will manipulate American
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  Speaker 1: presidents and they do whatever these reallys want. I mean,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: what a bold face line. Again, these people are not
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: asking questions because they don't want the answers. If they're
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: asking questions, they'd seek answers, and the answers would undermine
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  Speaker 1: their basic theories. And finally, is it an America's interest
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  Speaker 1: to be on Israel's side? I mean, this is the
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  Speaker 1: easiest one to answer. If you understand what America is.
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  Speaker 1: If America is the land of individual rights, individualism, freedom,
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  Speaker 1: similar you know, capitalism, and if those are the ideas
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  Speaker 1: that represent America, if that is what America's interests align with,
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  Speaker 1: that I aligned with freedom, then answering the question is
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  Speaker 1: is all is a civilized place. It's a relatively as
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  Speaker 1: these things go, capitalist place. It's a relatively it's a
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  Speaker 1: place to protect individual rights. Everybody else in the Middle East.
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  Speaker 1: All Israel's enemies are the opposite of that. They're fundamentally
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: ideologically enemies of the United States. Israel has free speech,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: freedom of religion. There's no freedom of religion in Saudi
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: Arabia or Kata or Dubai, which people love. It just
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: doesn't exist. If you're Muslim, will convert to Christianity in Dubai. Beware,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: you might not live long. If you're an atheist in
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, You're gonna go to jail for a long time.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: There's no freedom of speech, there's no freedom of religion,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: there's no capitalisms, there's no individual rights. The only reason
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: you know, all this investment going on in Saudi Arabia
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: is the Saudi Sovereign Wealth Fund, which is the whole
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: family sucking up all the money from the oil that
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: is under the ground because they own it, because royalty,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: they own the land right, and we accept that. We
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: celebrate loyalty. You know America God seventeen seventy six, they
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: have a bunch of money because loyalty owns the land.
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  Speaker 1: Some property rights. Israel has property rights, at least some
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: not as good as they could be, but some. Saudi
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  Speaker 1: Arabia has none. Dubai has none. These are monarchies, monarchies,
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  Speaker 1: the kind of monarchies we fought in seventeen seventy six.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: Actually no, that's not true, much much, much, much worse
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: monarchies than the monarchy of seventeen seventy six in England,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: which was relatively relatively pretty good. Best monarchy in the
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: world at the time, and better than any money. Honey, Well,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: there's the other constitution. Monarchies today, but you know, better
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: than any Middle East monarchy ever has been. So we'd
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: rather support monarchs over Israel, because Tucker Cusson loves the
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: Catalis a monarchy over Israel, a free country. It's unbelievable.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: So ideologically our support should be with Israel. Now the
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: three point eight billion, ooh, even then, do we get
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: any of that money? Do we get a return in
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: the investment of the three point eight now? I said
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: the money all comes back to the United States to
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: buy weapons, but it's still you know, they still have
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: to buy weapons. Wouldn't you be better if they use
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: their own money? Sure? But think about how much intelligence
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: we get in from the Israeli intelligence agencies, more than
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: any other intelligence agency in the world, particularly when it
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: comes to American interest in the Middle least. And we
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: have some I mean, Israel has an incredibly competent intelligence.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: Maybe somebody sometimes over the confidence, but incredibly competent. The
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: United States benefits on the effect. We benefit from the
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: fact that Israel takes f thirty fives and modifies them
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: and flies them into combat in ways that America has
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: never done because America has not gone to whoo. And
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: then the F thirty fives are improved dramatically because of
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: input from the israelis a benefit the manufacturer of the
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: F thirty five says is worth hundreds of billions of
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: dollars in saved research and development that Israel is doing
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: itself or is doing by actually using the jets. And
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: that's true of all America weapon systems. Every American weapon
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: system sold to Israel is used, and by the very
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: fact that it's used in combat situations, America learns how
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: to make them better. Otherwise, who's using American weapons? Almost nobody,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: a little bit in Ukraine. But we've only given them
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: a little bit, So there's not much. Is that worth
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: three point eight billion dollars? Probably worth a lot more
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: than that if you were just paying for it. So
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: it is in America's interests to ideologically morally support Israel.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: It's even arguably in America's interests to financially support Israel.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: But you know, I'm quite willing to go to zero there,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: and it's not in American interests, it's actually antagonistics of
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: American interests. To support Kata and UAE and Saudi Arabia.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: All we want from them is oil, and we don't
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: even need that much oil anymore because we're pretty self sufficient.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: So as long as they continue to stream into the
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: world markets, which they have an interest in doing, they
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: only source of income for them. What do we have
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: to have good relations with them for? The whole thing
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: is inverted, The whole perspective is inverted. The United States
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: should support Israel and be proud of it and stated proudly,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: Israel there is a bastion of Western civilization, a bastion
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: of American civilization in the Middle East. Not the saudast
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: not the Kataries, not the Yuoez, not the duwayis Israel
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: a bastion of American civilization in the Middle East. It's
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: the most American country in the Middle East in attitude,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: in culture, in every respect. And it fights. And this
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: is an important point that's almost never made because Takahassan
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't view, you know, Islamism as an enemy, but is
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: fighting America's war. Israel is fighting America's war. America is
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: at war with Islamism, whether it knows it or not.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: The Islamists suddenly thinks so. And Islamists don't hate America
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: because of Israel. Has nothing to do with Israel. Go
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: read site Kubb of the Muslim Brotherhood of Hassan and
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: Ebana from the Muslim Brotherhood. They don't hate America because
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: it's supposed to Israel. If anything, a lot of the
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: hatred of Israel, it's because it's like America. So Israel
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: is fighting America's war. It's fighting the same enemy. And yeah,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: America doesn't want to recognize it. That's shame in America,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: but it should at at least appreciate what Israel is
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: doing an extent to which, to extent to which it's
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: making America safe. And there's no question in my mind
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: that Israel is making America safer by disrupting the slamest
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: regime of Iran, by destroying much of rizbelisk capabilities, and
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: by preoccupying Ramas and its other Isis like affiliates. Instead
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: of killing Americans, they're busy killing Israelis asking questions. If
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: they were honest, then it would be easy fact that
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: they keep asking them, and they don't. They don't even
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: acknowledge that their answers to them. They don't even acknowledge
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: the people providing answers to them suggest that what motivates
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: them is not that it's straight out anti semitism and
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: with and you can see it right, It's not just
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: about asking questions. You can see it in Tucker Coulson,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: you know, platforming, you know, various forms of Holocaust deniers.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: You can see it in you know, in in Tako
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: Caustum platforming, Nitfoyantis, who is a Holocaust denier and who
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: thinks Hitler is cool. You can see it in his
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: platforming of so called historians who don't think, I don't
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: think Hitlo is that bad. So it doesn't just affect
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: their attitude towards Israel, it infects everything. I mean, Tucker
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: is obsessed with Israel and constantly lies about Israel and Jews.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: He is not just asking question. He is and needs
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: to be called out for being an anti American, collectivistic,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: tribialistic anti Semite. Indeed, he was I guess named I'm
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: not sure who named him, but somebody named him today
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: Anti Semite of the Year, which he I guess a
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: group called Stop Anti Semites named him Anti Semite of
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: the and absolutely deserves it. And you know, people are platforming.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: I mean even suggest that there was something wrong with
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: Lensky because you know, Zelensky Jewish. He's you know, you
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: remember the comment about people leading romos. I mean, he
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: just doesn't stop, and he gets away with it because
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: people like JD. Vance won't call him out. Take take
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: Candis own, Candis own. Now Is is promoting a book
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: to all her listeners called The Talmudic Jew, written by
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: you know, Robert Weistrich. Uh oh, sorry, not by Robert Weistrich.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: It's it was written by god, uh the dumb August Rowling.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: August Rowling. Written by August Rowling, who was a known
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: of bowed racial anti Semite, known by everybody. It was
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: in his obituary in the New York Times in January
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: twenty eight, nineteen thirty one, when he died. He it's
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: all about the Talmud, the Talmudic Jew, but he completely
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: mistranslates passages, completely makes stuff up, drops all context. He
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: claims the Jews kidnap a murder Christian children for religious purposes.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: I mean these are Middle ages, you know, fantasies. Christian
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: blood is mixed into the matsa to sanctify the passover. Ritual.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is the level and this is the
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: book she's pitching. Judaism obligates Jews to murder non Jews
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: when advantageous, and it goes on and on and on.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: You know, that's supposedly the Talmwood has all this. They
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: but it's just And of course this book is very
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: hard to find because there's no interest in it because
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: it's complete anti Semitic bs nonsense that's been refuted, as
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: if it needed refutation. Ever, it's completely discredited. People study
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: the Talmud. There's plenty of Tom Moodi scholars out there
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: that can refute this easily. But now now it's now
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: it's selling, and there's a bunch there's a new industry
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: of these of these books. You can find them Bonds
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: and Noble. If you go to Bonds and Noble right now,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: you can find these books. I don't know why the
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: Holocaust story was invented. Holocaust propaganda, Humus and October seventh Auschwitz,
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: The Case so Sanity. One Man's journey to Holocaust denial
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: Auschwitz lies. What do you think of the Jewish Holocaust?
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: His stoical hypothesis, hypothesis, it's hypothesis Uh. It is. It
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: is people like Candas and Tucker who are making this
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: new industry of Holocaust denying books uh popular and common
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: and uh and and selling. It's disgusting, it's despicable. Uh.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: You know, yes, Tucker, Caution should be deep platformed. You
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: should not be invited to speak by anybody. And Candae
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: so on, nobody should listen to her show. She's just
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: a the worst kind of antisemitic bigot. And yet you
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: know they're not being denounced, And suddenly JD. Vance will
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: not denounce. We're not denounced. I think that disqualifies him
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: from being president of the United States, among many many
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: other things. All right, final story of today and a
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: Christian if you're listening to this, make the two previous
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: sections that along, but make them into separate videos. Let's
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: put them out there and let's get people upset. So
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: sixty Minutes yesterday was about to air a a you know,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: the segment I major segment about the Venezuelans who loaded
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: up on planes and sent to this brutal, horrific jail
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: in a Salvado. And as part of the story, the
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: staff of sixty Minutes and interviewed several of them describing
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: the torture, the horror of what happened in El Salvado,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: the way they were treated. Also interviewed a bunch of
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: people involved in the process and what was involved, and
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: just showed just the horrors of what happened, how it
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: was done, the un American nature of the hope of procedure.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: And you know, this is following an extensive New York
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: Times story on this and other outlets that have basically
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: told the story of both Trump administration completing competence, you know,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: use of this aliens aliens law to send these people
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: to a jail in Ol Salvado, and you know, and
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: they interviewed a lot of people, had a typical sixty
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: minute segment on us. They tried, supposedly, they tried to
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: get the government to respond, that is, they asked the
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: Trumpet administration, at several levels within the Trumpet administration to
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: come on and answer questions and present their side and
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: counter to this, nobody supposedly, again supposedly, from what I
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: can understand, nobody from the government responded to them. So
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: they don't have anybody for the government actually presenting their
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: side of the story. Anyway, this was about a AA yesterday,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: it had been advertised there would be everybody told, you
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: know about these fifty minutes oilers that were presented in Elsalvado.
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  Speaker 1: You know, some of them had come to the over
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: fifty of them had come to the US legally. Some
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: of the many of them had never violated immigration law,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: of for that matter, any other law. This story was
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: going to be told by sixty minutes, and many of
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: them supposedly risk their lives to speak with, you know,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: with the sixty minute crew. And yesterday Barry Weiss pulled
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: the story with very little notice. CBS pulled the story
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: and didn't air it. Now, there's no evidence to suggest
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: that she got a phone call from the Trump administration
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: telling her not to do the story. There's no evidence
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: to suggest that Larry Ellison, a big supporter of Trump
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: who owns CBS, phoned Barry Weiss and told not to
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: run the story. But it seems very suspicious. This is
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: not a story the Bush, the Trumpet administration would have
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: wanted to run, and it wasn't run. And there were
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: a lot of peop people out there who are wondering
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: if this is a case of explicit censorship by our government,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: and if it is. This is about as bad as
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: it gets. A story criticizing the government gets stopped. Maybe
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: because of government pressure, we don't know. Barry Weisse put
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: out a statement basically saying that her reason for pulling
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: the story was that the government's side was not represented.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: She thought that that the team at sixty minutes had
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: not done enough to try to get a government representative
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: to present the side of it. She claims that she's
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: not killing the story, she's just delaying it so that
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: they can try again more forcefully to try to get
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: somebody from the Trump administration to present their side of
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: the argument. Now, maybe this is true. Maybe that's why
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: she did it. Maybe the sixty Minutes they're too biased
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: and they didn't try hard enough to get a more
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: balanced perspective. They didn't try enough to get they didn't
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: try hard enough to get somebody from the Trump administration
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: to come on. We will find out in the weeks
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: to come. That is, Barry Weiss has strings. She knows
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: people in the Trump White House. She could get somebody
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: to come an interview. Let's see if they do. Let's
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: see if this is indeed only temporary and whether it's
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: put up on sixty minutes in the weeks to come,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: because if it isn't, if it's buried, then this is
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: you have to be suspicious and you have to come
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: to the conclusion this is real censorship. People flipped out
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: because Biden sent people to social media, you know, to
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: kind of suggest suggest in quotation marks, that they not
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: say certain things about COVID, and yet those things were
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: said anyway, or to take stuff down about COVID. And
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: if we're really upset about that, as we should be,
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: this is just as bad, if not worse. And this
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: is you know, this is Aubon and Putin strategy see
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: Aubon strategy in Hungry was to get his friends is
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: powerful oligochs in Hungry to buy up all the media.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: He didn't shut down the media, he didn't eliminate free media.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: He got his friends to buy it, and then he
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: got his friends to only do puff beast is about
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: him and about his government. He destroyed the media not
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: by shutting it down, but by just reorienting it through
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: coronyism to do exactly what he wanted them to do.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: Putin did the same thing, although Putin it was a
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: lot more brutal in doing it. In executing on that.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: We don't know yet. If Larry Ellison is just a
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: Trump puppet who's willing to suppress free speech in order
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: to make the administration look good. It maybe is. We
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: don't know. If you know, the Trump plan is to
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: get his friends to buy up all the media and
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: then to only represent his point of view and to
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: not allow new media to arise that criticizes it. We'll
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: see if this is Aubon two point zero or if
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: this is just you know, this is just Barry White
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: sticking to proper journalistic principles. It's yet to be this,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: you know, yet to be determined, but it's one of
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: the most important things for America right now. If we
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: lose free speech, we lose it all. And this is
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: not a good sign. Not a good sign. All right, friends,
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: that is the news this Monday, December twenty second, Christmas week.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: That was not a very Christmas e show. I know,
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  Speaker 1: I apologize, all right, we are going to turn to
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  Speaker 1: out super chats. Let me just close some of these windows.
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  Speaker 1: was falling apart, crime way higher than it is today. Violence,
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  Speaker 1: Over the Cuckoo's Nest. I mean, great movies, but horrible themes.
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  Speaker 1: of control. It's end of the Vietnam War, but nobody
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  Speaker 1: pretty dark, pretty dark about America. Taxi Driver Bait Me
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  Speaker 1: maybe the most dark of all of them. Again, very
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  Speaker 1: well made movies, movies that all become classics, but very
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  Speaker 1: dark about the state of the world, the state of man,
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  Speaker 1: a remnant of Americanism in the culture, which manifested itself
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  Speaker 1: never been worse. Really, is never being worse. And the
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  Speaker 1: stunning thing is it's never been better financially economically. It's
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  Speaker 1: seventy five was horrible financially and economically. Inflation was much higher.
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  Speaker 1: People affordability in the sense of being able to afford
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  Speaker 1: a house, I mean, housing prices were going up much
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  Speaker 1: faster because of inflation. We just we're not keeping up.
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  Speaker 1: It's much better today financially economically, and you have the
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  Speaker 1: same resentment, horror and much worse escape into evil ideas.
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  Speaker 1: I all go with them. As much as leftist intellectuals
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  Speaker 1: Would you agree, I don't know. I think look that
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  Speaker 1: in a sense of data day, happy productive life. I
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  Speaker 1: on the left and right. Huah, intellectual or political movements
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  Speaker 1: andrew In changing one's ethics from duty to causal, would
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  Speaker 1: itself inapplicable and unhelpful in thinking about ethics. No, it's
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  Speaker 1: definitely definitely important in ethics and as an essay. You
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  Speaker 1: know who is the moral authority and ethics, and it's you.
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  Speaker 1: your actions in reality. So reality provides you the feedback.
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  Speaker 1: doesn't implant itself on it. It's not dependent on your emotions.
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  Speaker 1: You are the authority as long as you are using
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  Speaker 1: reason and objectivity reference to reality to make your decision.
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  Speaker 1: that can make make this for you. You know. Ironman
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  Speaker 1: can teach us the method, she can teach us the principles,
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  Speaker 1: but you have to make them your own. You have
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  Speaker 1: to apply them. Otherwise it's meaningless to you. It becomes
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: just dogma and it's empty. Chasbad is heritage Americanism related
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  Speaker 1: to the tradition of hereditary titles in European aristocracy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it is. You could argue that America fought
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  Speaker 1: a revolution, that the American Revolution was against the whole
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  Speaker 1: idea of heritage anything. The whole point was to get
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  Speaker 1: line of which you came. Even if some of the
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  Speaker 1: founders were racists and believed that Americans for whites, they
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  Speaker 1: believe that you know, whes at least were all equal,
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  Speaker 1: at least in terms of their rights. That is, the
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  Speaker 1: whole point is to get away from aristocracy. And yet
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: heritage Americans is a is a hearkening back to aristocracy,
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: to property, you know, to everything based on blood. So yes,
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: Harpercampbell has two part question, will AI accelerate the dark
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: ages as people upload their ability to think to this prosthetic.
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  Speaker 1: Once that happens, they will be completely open to cognitive manipulation.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: That manipulation will be ethno, fascist free thought will be diminished.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: AI doesn't think it fits back what is in the ether.
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  Speaker 1: If what is in the ether is nothing nihilism and
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: tribalism propaganda, then that is the world will be very
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: long long time. It's you know, AI in the hands
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: of the wrong people is very dangerous. So yes, it's
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: definitely a possibility that this will be used badly, that
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: you know, people will become you know, less inquisitive and
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: less curious and less do less research for the self
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: less independent in terms of their thinking. That is all possible, absolutely,
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: but it's not inevitable. You know, it's a tool AI,
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: and it's a tool. It's a very powerful tool for
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: those of us who believe in liberty and freedom if
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: we use it right. So, creating content, getting content out
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: there so that AI learns off of that content amongst
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: all the rest that it's learning from is really important
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: for the good guys. So AI is not just limited
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: to the hoorable bad stuff. It's also going to you know,
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: it's going to depend on what way, in what way
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: the whole authoritarian thing manifests itself, right. I mean, a
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: lot of the authoritarians are anti AI, they're anti technology.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: So you might see AI shut down by the steep
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: Bannons of the world. But look, it ultimately depends on
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: the free will of individuals. It's going to depend on us.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to depend on people. People making decisions about
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  Speaker 1: whether they want to shut down their minds, whether they
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  Speaker 1: want to stop thinking for them selves, whether they want
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  Speaker 1: whether they want to hand over the responsibility of thinking
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: to a machine or to other people. I'm still hopeful
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: that technology will help us disseminate the ideas of liberty
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: and freedom more than it will, you know, help the
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: bad guys destroy liberty and freedom. Liam, Do these anti
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  Speaker 1: semites all get issued the same stupid playbook constantly asking
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  Speaker 1: Ben Shaper about the USS liberty an accident of friendly
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  Speaker 1: fire incident about six years ago, is supported, is supposed
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  Speaker 1: to prove wide Exactly? Yeah, I know I talked about that,
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  Speaker 1: But you're right. They do get the same stuff. It's repeated,
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: It's repeated on the podcast, is repeated by Nick Foytis.
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  Speaker 1: They all listened to the same people. They all get
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: this exactly the same playbook, and they all ask exactly
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: the same question. So, yes, there is a playbook out
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• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: one of the things I remember about Russe Limbout Russe
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• 1:52:38
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  Speaker 1: a facts that goes out to all these people every day.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking points. You know, it might not be a fact,
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  Speaker 1: and now it might be an email, and it might
• 1:52:56
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• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: to the same people. They all and yeah, these things
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  Speaker 1: are repeated over and over and over again and and again.
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  Speaker 1: They're not interested in the answers because all these things
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  Speaker 1: self esteem a little bit. But they're not honest questions.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: And there are a number of people who ask that
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: kind of question. I mean most of them are gone,
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: but uh, but it's and it's the same question about
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: the liberty. There's no honesty there, there's no They want
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: an answer, they're curious, what a special if you really
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: think about liberty, what actually happened there? It's not what's
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: going on in their mind? Michael, do you find it
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: takes people decades to dislodge bad ideas from the subconscious,
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: even if they initially respond positively to objectivism, they upward
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: process of irrational ideas takes a very long time to
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: e roade. Yes, absolutely, And the more deeply ingrained the
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: ideas and the more difficult it is to erode, and
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: the longer time it takes. And you know, so an
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: idea like altruism is very difficult because it's everywhere, it's
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: constantly being reforced in the culture. It's and and you're
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: raised with it with no alternatives, and you can't conceive
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: it an alternative to untel iron rant. So, yes, it's
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: it's very much, it's very much there. Yes, very difficult,
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: the deeper the issues, And that's why I think most
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: objectivists are still fighting off elements of Christian dogma. So,
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: for example, not the dogma itself, but the rationalism, the
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: viewing morality as commandments, you know, viewing Inman's fosphy as dogma,
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: just like they view just like religion is dogma. I
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: think a lot of all of us struggle with altruism.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: Altruism is probably the most difficult, because morality is the
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: most difficult to uproot once you've lived a whole life
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: based on it, not a whole life, once you've lived
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: your early life based on it, and everybody around you
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: reinforces it. Run school sent my son at home with
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: chicken pox, No saw it. I kept him home till recovery.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: Now they demand doctor note after the fact. I feel disrespected.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: De nies parental model authority is refusing rational or not pragmatic.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: They want a doctor note that he's healthy, that he's okay,
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: that he's recovered, or they want a doctor note that
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: he was sick. Wanting a doctor note that he was
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: sick if the school was the one who sent him
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: home for chicken pox is kind of stupid. I can
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: understand them wanting a note that he's fully recovered and
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: he's not contagious anymore. That I can understand, and maybe
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: maybe they need that from a doctor. But and if
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: he's everybody knows he's okay, it's okay, but you know,
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: for the for the time, it's bureaucracy. It's not anybody,
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's just you know, they're filling
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: in a form. They're dotting the eyes and crossing the t's,
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: and it is disrespectful, particularly given that they sent him home.
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: What is a doctor going to do now? Right? I
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: don't know if a doctor saw him when he was sick,
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: So it is disrespectful. But how much energy do you
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: want to exert on this? I mean, that's the bottom line.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: Is this the hill you want to fight on? Is
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: this the issue you want to against? Go up against
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: the bureaucracy. Once you understand it's not evildoers, it's just bureaucrats,
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: then the question is what do you want to do
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: about it? Yeah, they're just falling idiotic rules. So these
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: the rules you want to fight? Is this the hill
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: you want to you know, sweat on. You have to
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: make that decision, you know. But I think accommodating them, Yeah,
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: it'll piss you off and it's disrespectful. And you can
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: send them a note telling them you think is disrespectful.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: But do you really want to fight over this? I mean,
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: there are probably other things that are more important ultimately
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: that you might want to save your AMMO for, but
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: it's completely personal to you, James. Why do comedians like
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: Jeff Chappelle hate Israel or Jews? In his new special,
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: he says, Saudi took out one journalist, and Israel did
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: two hundred and forty three pave aselt Is in a war,
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: and Saudi it was its own citizen, It was its
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: own citizen, and it was a just and they dismembered him.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: They you know, it's just a brutal case of explicit murder.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: Some of those journalists of the two hundred and forty
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: three were killed by accident because some of them were Hamas.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: Why do they hate Israel in Jews? They hate Israel
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: because I think a lot of these people hate Western civilization,
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: They hate the civilized. They they might never express it
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: that way, they might never think in those terms, they
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: might never admit it even to themselves, but they hate
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: civilization and Israel represents civilization. They have been taught and
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: this is the power of altruism, that the meek, that
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: the suffering, that the third world, that's who's virtuous, that's
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: who's good. I mean, the left has taught us over
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: and over and over again for a long forever that
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 1: the suffering the third world is the virtue the first world,
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: Western civilization, the evil colonialist pigs and Israel just as
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 1: a stand in for the West. And when Israel's gone,
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: if they ever get rid of it, then they'll turn
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 1: against themselves. They'll turn against you know, their own countries.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 1: These same comedians hate America. They despise America when it
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: boils down to it is Tho's just an easy convenience
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: target that represents America. And Jews are successful within America.
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: And again, how do you get successful with in America?
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 1: You exploit, you steal, you, you lie, you cheat, you.
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean Candice is spreading the lies
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: about Jews being the largest slave owners in the South
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 1: just just absurd historically. So now they're blaming slavery on
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 1: the Jews instead of what it belongs, which is in
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 1: the Christians. Right, James, if Christianity is significantly most psychologic
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: psychle If Christianity is significant most psychological destructives in the Islam,
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: why were Enlightenment ideas able to override Christian Europe in
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 1: a way they fail to do an Islamic Middle East.
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. It's a good question. The
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 1: Islamic Middle East during its golden.
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 4: Age had significant what do you call it, mystical elements.
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 1: They significant strands within the religion that pushed them to
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 1: even further mysticism, the Sufi's primarily, but all kinds of
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: other branches. And they had philosophers who argued explicitly to
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 1: reject reason and reject reject Aristotle and the Greeks. And
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 1: it stuck. It stuck, and that dominated, and you know,
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 1: Aristotle and everything else died completely in Islam. And I
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 1: don't have an explanation for why that stuck and why
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 1: the part of the Aristotilan stuff didn't lead to greatness.
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 1: Maybe this is the point. Maybe, I mean, I'm hypothesizing.
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 1: He I'm non expert on this. In Islam, there's no
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 1: separation of state and church. Islam, the religious leaders the
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: political leader. And even though there were lots of political intrigue,
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 1: and there were lots of subsidiary political leaders, they all
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 1: accepted the caliph as the religious leader and also in
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 1: a sense kind of a political leader as well, even
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 1: and they were somewhat accepted this subservience to him, so
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 1: as these other Muslim empires spun off from the centralized power.
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 1: So one thing that didn't develop an Islamic thought during
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 1: the Golden Age was politics. So it's never really a
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 1: discussion about political alternatives to you know, to Islam. And
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 1: if I remember right, the one book of Aristotle's that
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 1: was not translated and not really studied was his politics.
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 1: Whereas Aristotle and the Greeks enter Europe. Oh, okay, So
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 1: that part, that's one. The second explanation I would give
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 1: is Aristotle and the Greek ideas enter Islam early, so
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 1: six what six something, six point thirty Islam gets established
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 1: and by eight something the real scholars, the real thinkers
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 1: within the Muslim world studying these ideas, and it's the
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 1: beginning of the Islam's Golden Age. Aristota comes to Christianity late,
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: the Greeks come with the exception of Neoplatonists, the Greeks
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 1: come into Christianity late eleventh century. Is the beginning really
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 1: starts taking off in the thirteenth century with the coiners
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 1: in the University of Paris at University of Bologna after
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 1: dark ages. So in a sense, it comes into a
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 1: culture that has lived through the horrors of the Dark
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 1: Ages and are living through the horrors of the Middle Ages,
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 1: a culture dominated by religion and it's not going well.
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 1: I think there's much more openness to better ideas, and
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 1: you know, there's an openness, particularly in the Enlightenment, to
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 1: political ideas. That's the beginning of the Enlightenment, John Locke
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 1: with political ideas. And because there's somewhat of a separation
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 1: between church and states, somewhat because it's not clear that
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: they is, but there is this a Holy Roman empire
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 1: versus the pope, which goes back to Constantine being emperor
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 1: and then being a pope. So there's some separation that
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 1: allows for I think the secular idea is to get
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 1: entrenched in ways that they couldn't in the Muslim world,
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 1: which was much more centralized. So it's the fact that
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 1: there's a sense in why stated experienced Christianity already you
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 1: knew what that was about. And the separations state might
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 1: have had a role that prevented the Islamic worth from
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: engaging in political thought. Christian world was more open to it.
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 1: And look, they're both destructive, and I don't know that
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 1: Christianity is more destructive and I don't know if it's
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 1: significantly more destructive. I don't know. There's a sense in which,
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 1: as I said before, Islam gives people a pseudo self
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 1: esteem that Christianity does. In Christianity is the meeks don't
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 1: inhbit there. Oh it's about meekness and forgiveness, and there's
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 1: none of that in Islam. So it gives them this
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 1: boldness that Christianity doesn't have, although it manufactures it when
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 1: it needs it, like during the Crusades or various wars
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 1: that they fight. Ali Musa, hello you a hey, thanks
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 1: for the support. By the way, we're seventeen dollars short
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 1: of the two our goal already in the third hour.
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 1: Let's at least make the second hour. Oh, that'd be good.
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 1: Seventeen How did I just do stickers? Just do a
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 1: bunch of two dollars stickers and we'll make the gap easily.
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 1: How did white people and Christians turn on Jews and
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 1: minorities so much in fifteen years? Have you observed that
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 1: religion makes people more tribal and racist? Yeah? No question,
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 1: religion makes people more tribal and racist. Religion. Religion basically
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 1: lobotomizes you, It separates you from reason, It separates you
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 1: from thinking, it separates you from having an independent mind.
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 1: And the more that happens, the more you are in
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 1: a sense of lobotomized, The more you are detached from
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 1: rationality and reason, the more you can't handle reality, and therefore,
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 1: you know, succumb to fear and therefore seek tribe and
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 1: a leader to tell you what to think and what
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 1: to do. So it's definitely related to that. Now, you know,
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 1: they turned and Jews because we become a more tribal society,
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 1: we become more collectivistic, we become more tribal, and we
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 1: become that partially because of the ideas of partially because
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 1: of religion, but because there was an alternative to religion
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 1: on kind of the left, the old left would present reason,
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 1: I mean a perverted sense of reason. But reason is
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 1: an alternative. Don't go with religion, don't go with tribalism.
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 1: Think now, the left, the alternative to tribalism and religion
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 1: is wokeism, which is just as bad as religion, which
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 1: is just as tribal, just as altruistic, just as mindless,
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 1: just as anti reason. And the consequence of that is
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 1: they embraced racism, as well. So you know, society, culture
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 1: history is driven by ideas post modern, intersectional, you know, postcolonial,
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 1: whatever you want to call them. Woke ideas combined with
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 1: Christianity as of their alternative will only lead to racism
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 1: and tribalism and collectivism of all its forms. All right, Silvanos,
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 1: thanks for the sticker. Exit, Thank you for the sticker.
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 1: Really appreciate it. Alry nadya aj algorithm. Vivic is challenging
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 1: conservatives on surging anti Indian hate. There will be a
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 1: reformation once Mega collapses in on itself, you know, I hope. So,
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how influential Vivic is within
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 1: the conservative movement. Here's the question you have to ask yourself. Ultimately,
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 1: this is shaped by ideas, not by Paulity Titians. Who
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 1: are the intellectuals who are going to save the conservative movement,
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 1: who are going to save the right from these races?
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 1: Who are they? Where are they? I mean the best
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 1: are the never trumpets, but they're never going to be
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 1: invited back. So who are they? I don't know. Vivic
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 1: might do it as try to do it as a politician,
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 1: and even he it's pretty bad on some of these issues,
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 1: as we saw when he was running for president. But
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 1: you know where where's the intellectual backup? James, Have you
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 1: ever discussed slavery through the Old Testament of Quran or
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 1: religion as a whole? Recently found out that most people
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 1: do not know it is in them. Oh yeah, I
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 1: mean God tells the Jews how to treat their slaves.
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 1: Of course, Jews are slave by the Egyptians. Jews and
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 1: slaves the people that they defeat in battle. Christians owned
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 1: slaves throughout, you know, throughout the world. Certainly the Byzantine
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 1: Empire had vast numbers of slaves. The Roman Empire under
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 1: Christian emperors had slaves. In the Middle Ages, when Christians
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 1: could afford slaves, they had slaves. Slaves were expensive, you know,
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 1: slave trade thrived under Christianity, and of course Islam. Islam
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 1: is notorious for slave ownership to this day, but Islam
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 1: allows the slavery again, talks about treating slaves. The slave
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 1: trade out of Africa north and east towards the Arab
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 1: world was just as big, if not bigger, than the
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 1: slave trade west to the New World. Ours have used
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 1: Africa as a source of slaves for a very very
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 1: long time Muslims. Islamis so all religion in those slavery.
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 1: It is true that among the abolitionists, certain types of Christians,
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 1: certain Christian sects like the Quakers were very very heavily represented.
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 1: So Quakers were very anti slavery. They might be one
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 1: or two other denominations of Christianity, they are very anti slavery.
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 1: But it's also true that the Southern slave owners all
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 1: used Christianity as a defense for slavery. But slavery goes
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 1: back to ancient Greece, Aristotle defense slavery, So slavery is
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 1: just as an accepted part of life, you know, back
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 1: in ancient times. It's an achievement to understand the slavery
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 1: is wrong. It's an achievement of the Enlightenment, not an
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 1: achievement of Christianity. You know, there's some thinkers in Greece
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 1: that think slavery is wrong. There's some thinkers in Christianity
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 1: that think slavery is wrong. But the first time that
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 1: it becomes a cultural movement, a cultural phenomena that people
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 1: think slavery is wrong is enlightenment. Clark is America even
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 1: individualistic anymore? I think it is to some extent. I
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 1: think I still think that a significant number, if not
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 1: a majority, of Americans still think to some extent, in
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 1: individualistic terms, there's still respect for ambition and individual happiness
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 1: and striving towards happiness and striving towards values. Don't let
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 1: the voices of the crazies who currently dominate our political
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 1: discourse and left and right dominate your view and all Americans,
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 1: because I don't think it's true. All right, Harper Campbell,
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 1: I will never stop fighting, but we must face up
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 1: to the nature of the coming storm or we will
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 1: be up unprepared. Yep, I mean becoming storm. It's happening
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 1: right now, and it's going to get worse. Seven dollars
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 1: short of the second hour target seven dollars again, A
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 1: few two dollars stickers, and we're there, Helpa Campbell. A
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 1: new global dark age has begun. It will take centuries
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 1: to emerge from it. Maybe I don't know. Again, I
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 1: think making these kind of procrastinate, these kind of foecasts
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 1: about the future are very difficult. There's so many factors
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 1: to consider, there's so much stuff going on. But in
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 1: dark ages, what do we mean by dark age? How dark?
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 1: I am skeptical about a global dark age. As I've
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 1: said before, I don't think it'll happen. I think certain
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 1: countries are going to collapse. I don't think you're going
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 1: to have a global dark age, not in the sense
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 1: of dark age. Is dark age, Michael. The old Conservative movement,
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 1: as it was about civilization versus barbarism, was it, which
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 1: is why they supported Israel gen Z. Conservatives is about
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 1: racial determinism and nihilism. I know a Conservative movement was
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 1: anti intellectual and shallow and not clear about what exactly
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 1: they were conserving. But it had a sudden spark of
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 1: a love of the funding fathers. It had a sudden
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 1: respect for civilization and resentment of barberism without really understanding
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 1: what civilization required or needed. It was a very shallow phenomena,
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 1: and it supported capitalism a little bit. It appreciated the
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 1: outcome of capitalism, but didn't really fully appreciate it. But
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 1: it is it is true that the Conservatives are completely
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 1: different today. They have no appreciation of civilization, no appreciation
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 1: of the fathers, founding fathers, no appreciation of capitalism. It
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 1: is a deterministic and nihilistic movement. Andrew hate is when
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 1: conservatives say only hate is when conservatives say only let
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 1: in the best and brightest immigrants. How many of their
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 1: ancestors who came here were the best and the brightest,
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 1: or would they have been considered low skilled? Almost none
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 1: of them, I mean almost none of them. Most immigrants
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 1: who came to this country, even going back to the Mayflower,
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 1: they're the rejects. They were the religious rejects, but they
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 1: weren't particularly smart, won't particularly anything other than different religiously.
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 1: The first people that came to Virginia were you could
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 1: say entrepreneurial, but many of them were in debt and
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 1: this was a way to pay off their debts. And
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 1: many of them when they're just servants. Yeah, I mean
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 1: people came to the United States for all kinds of reasons,
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 1: and the idea that they were all smart, adventurous, mathematic
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 1: mathematically brilliant ontopreneurs is a certain ridiculous. There's nothing to
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 1: say that the people who came their ancestors were particularly spectacular,
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 1: anything other than they were risk takers. That's the best
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 1: you can take say about them. But not even two
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 1: of all of them. Because a lot of people came
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 1: as indiged servants, pay off the debts and m air
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 1: rise and annual report didn't include the Building Fund this year,
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 1: but were contributions still down from last year, with legacy
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 1: making up much of the difference. You know, I don't know,
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 1: but they might have been down a little bit, they
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 1: weren't down a lot, with legacy making up a huge amount.
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 1: Legacy way exceeding expectations. I mean, there's there's some variation
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 1: in the amount of contribution. There's no question that the
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 1: Building Fund, which has raised at sixty something million dollars,
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 1: is cannibalizing regular contribution a little bit. We just had
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 1: a guy give a million dollars to the building, but
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 1: say he's not going to get for a while to
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 1: AI because he's giving for the building. So you're gonna
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 1: get stuff like that. So, you know, I'd say overall,
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 1: I'd say regular and your contributions are fairly flat. But
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 1: plan giving legacy stuff is way up, much higher than
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 1: it's ever been. And uh and and the Building Fund
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 1: is is getting a lot of big significant contributions of
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 1: of you know, seven figure, eight seven figure in some
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 1: cases eight figure contributions. Thoughts on Batya Uga Sagan, would
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 1: you interview here? No, I mean, she's awful. She's a horrible,
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 1: horrible human being who is a mindless, mindless advocate of
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 1: anything Trump. You know, she she she made. She's completely
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 1: ignorant of economics. She knows zero, zilch, nada about economics.
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 1: She has no training in economics, and she knows no economics,
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 1: and yet she goes out and makes these grand statements
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 1: about tariffs, about this, about the state of economics, about affordability,
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 1: about inflation, about she knows nothing about these things, and
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 1: she has no sense of her self of what she
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 1: can't talk about, what she shouldn't talk about. Yeah, I mean,
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 1: I have no respect for this woman. She's a one
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 1: hundred percent brainwashed what I call Trump zombie, just just
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 1: mouthing trumpisms. And she comes on the left, which is
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 1: not surprising. Liam go and eat shit. Jd Vance explodes
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 1: at Nick Foyantis over racist Slow against Usha. Yes, but
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 1: he only did it because it was Usha. He said,
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 1: you don't attack my family. Da da da da da.
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 1: He said this is in this interview, and any defense
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 1: that could calls sin it's not against racism or racists,
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 1: it's against that particular Slow against his wife. He's he's
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 1: standing up for his wife, not against racism. Big difference. Uh,
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 1: I like numbers, you do DNA test ancestries. Race is
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 1: a construct. Yeah, ancestry is not a construct. But race is.
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 1: You have an ancestry, you come from, you have a
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 1: family tree, You can figure out where your DNA comes from.
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 1: That doesn't make it race. Indeed, it turns out most
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 1: about DNA comes all over the place. And you know
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 1: how how how far back do you want, you know,
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 1: to define race? So, uh, race is a construct and
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 1: ancestry is not. The DNA is not. The fact that
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 1: your DNA comes from ancestors who lived in particular places
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 1: at particular times is not. It's just nothing about race.
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 1: You know, you might be European, or you might have
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 1: some some genes from Africa and some genes from Asia,
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 1: you know, and you might and you might have genes
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 1: for the Middle East, And you know what does that
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 1: make you? What's the race? What's my race? What's my race?
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 1: Can anybody tell me what my race is? I don't
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 1: know what. I don't even know how to approach the question.
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 1: My White is that a race? My European? Is that
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 1: a race? Am I Jewish? Is that a race? I'm
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent pure bred. I'm one hundred percent Ashkenazi Jew.
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 1: I am not right one hundred percent of a Jew.
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 1: So what what race does that make me? It means
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 1: my my ancestors all married within the Jewish communities they
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 1: lived in for a very long time. I take no
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 1: satisfaction or pride in that. I couldn't because it's not me,
• 2:22:11
  Speaker 1: it's them anyway. But I don't think that was a
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 1: good thing necessarily, And for a very long time they married.
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 1: They married among each other, right within their little villages
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 1: and within within their towns, all from the same area
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 1: in either Poland or Lithuania. So does that make me what?
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 1: But if you go far back enough, right, I forget
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 1: what they call this. But if you go far back enough,
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 1: I have ancestors who are related to Northern Asians, Northern
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 1: Asians who are related to the people who crossed over
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 1: into America. So if you go far back enough, I
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 1: have a what do you call it? My god, I
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 1: forget the twenty three things I'm related to Native Americans
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 1: because the same cause ks who I don't know, rate
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 1: my great ancestor, you know, us across the Bearing Straits
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 1: into whatever, into America wasn't Kozaks exactly some Asian chry.
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 1: What is it all? What difference does it make? What
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 1: relevance does that happen? What race does that make me?
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 1: And what race does it make my kids? My wife's
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 1: mother was born in Morocco, so that make her African.
• 2:23:38
  Speaker 1: But she's kind of white, you know, well not white,
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 1: but she's fisk and she's not dark skin. Does that
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 1: stomach African? I mean many generations in Morocco? How many
• 2:23:48
  Speaker 1: generations do you have to be in Morocco to be African?
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 1: But she has a lot of you know, Hispanic origin,
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 1: So does that make aut What does that make up?
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 1: And of course they were all Jews at least going
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 1: back a long time again. But Jewish Judaism is not
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 1: a race. Jewish is not a race. And her father
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 1: was born in Uzbiki Stan. He's Asian, pretty straightforward, I guess,
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 1: but he was a Jewish. I make a difference. It
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything. It's all bullshit. It's all bullshit. Richard
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 1: just joined Merry Christmas. My Chinese wife is more American
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 1: than most. I'm sure she is heritage Americans. Don't forget
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 1: to join the New Year's Show. Yes, all of you,
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 1: don't forget to join the New Years Show. It's great
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 1: to see you Richard. We were we going to do something.
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 1: Wasn't there something about a wedding? I can't remember there
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 1: was there something were supposed to do. Anyway, good to
• 2:24:58
  Speaker 1: see you here. Thanks for the support. Really appreciate John Davis.
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 1: Here's the question, right, He's not interested in my answer.
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 1: Just remember this, and I've answered this exact same question,
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 1: I think a year or two ago from the same
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 1: person is Charles Maury, whose wife's a loation is Charles
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 1: Mario's wife is loation, thinks ethnic gaps in intelligence have
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 1: a genetic component. A tribalist, why don't you debate him?
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 1: I would debate him. I Charles Marie is somebody I
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 1: would debate. Is he a tribalist? He's definitely a collectivist.
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's quite a tribalist. I think I
• 2:25:37
  Speaker 1: think he has the elements in Charles Maury where he
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 1: thinks for himself. I've met Charles Maury, you know, we've talked.
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 1: But I do think he's a collectivist. I definitely think
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 1: he's a collectivist. He thinks in terms of groups. It's
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 1: why he would even run this test. I didn't know
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 1: his wife is a loation. I'm not sure that matters.
• 2:25:59
  Speaker 1: But he he's definitely a collectivist. This whole analysis, the
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 1: way he thinks about America, the way he analyze data,
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 1: the way he analyzes the culture is very collectivistic. And
• 2:26:11
  Speaker 1: he's by the way, recently, Charles Murray, unsurprising at all,
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 1: has found religion. It's not that he was an atheist before,
• 2:26:20
  Speaker 1: but he was non practicing, and he's become much more
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 1: religious lately. I just saw article by him and why
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 1: he's gone back in a sense to religion, which is
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 1: not surprising. That's collectivism. If you want to ask me
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 1: a question, like my opinion about somebody, there's a great
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 1: way to do it. It's called superchat. Like everybody else
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 1: that dudo bonni Part one. Okay, racial categories are not tight.
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 1: People race mix all the time, but different ethnic groups
• 2:26:54
  Speaker 1: have different facial features and body shapes. It's not just
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 1: skin color. You can argue racial differences are superficial and
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 1: non essential. But to say race is a social construct
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 1: strikes me as saying gender is a social construct. No,
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to get into the gender debate. It's
• 2:27:18
  Speaker 1: not the same thing. People come from different places and
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 1: they definitely have different characteristics, but since they are not
• 2:27:27
  Speaker 1: really relevant to anything, what is the purpose of the
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 1: you know, a a what do you call it? A
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 1: concept has to have a purpose. There has to be
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 1: a reason why we created. What's the purpose of race?
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 1: What does what does it function as? What does it
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 1: function as? And how are we supposed to deal with it?
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 1: When you have all these mixtures, and indeed most of us,
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 1: most of us are mixtures if we look deep enough
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 1: into our DNA. Now you can say it's a shortcut
• 2:28:05
  Speaker 1: to say somebody's particularly geographic area, but that's you know.
• 2:28:09
  Speaker 1: If I say somebody's Asian, I'm not talking about their race.
• 2:28:12
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about the fact that they have Asian features
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 1: and they you know, they probably have some ancestor who
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 1: came from the Asian region. But is that a race
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 1: in the sense in which the people who really care
• 2:28:27
  Speaker 1: about race talk about it. I can call somebody African, that's,
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 1: you know, but African is a little ambiguous to you know,
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 1: black African versus a white African, because not white in
• 2:28:36
  Speaker 1: the sense of a South African, but white in the
• 2:28:39
  Speaker 1: sense of a Northern African. It's just the concept is useless.
• 2:28:46
  Speaker 1: It just adds no value, it serves no cognitive function.
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 1: And then when you get to Europe. Originally Europe was
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 1: divided up into races. The whole point is the reality
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 1: is Germans and Northern Europeans have very different facial features,
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 1: skin color, and you know, I don't know color eyes
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 1: and color hair, then Southern Europeans. So those two different races,
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 1: and what purpose does that sive? What value do you
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 1: get from that? Now, look, there's absolutely value to knowing
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 1: your heritage, sorry, your ancestors, because the medical reasons to know. So,
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 1: you know, being one hundred percent of Kanazi Jews, there's
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 1: certain diseases that I'm more likely to get than other people.
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 1: I have a gene that makes it more likely that
• 2:29:53
  Speaker 1: I get a certain cancer. If you have the gene
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 1: and you're not enough Kanazi Jew, you're not gonna probably
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 1: gonna get the cancer. If you ask Kanazi Jew, probably
• 2:30:08
  Speaker 1: goes way up that you will get that cancer. That's
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 1: good to know, good to know. So you want to know,
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 1: you know, I got some I got some genus from
• 2:30:16
  Speaker 1: this part of the world where that might involve this
• 2:30:19
  Speaker 1: particular disease doesn't mean you have it. It doesn't mean
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 1: you but you might. And you could do a genetic
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 1: test and find out there's certain diseases that are unique
• 2:30:29
  Speaker 1: to certain people for specific hevity. So for that purpose,
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 1: it's good to know. But that's not a race issue.
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 1: What is the function of the of the concept race
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 1: other than to identify people who think it's important, as
• 2:30:46
  Speaker 1: in racist racists exist race? I don't think does. I
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 1: think it's an anti concept. It's a collectivistic anti concept.
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 1: Richard said, yees, I emailed you once. I'll email you
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 1: once we confirm the date, likely twenty twenty seven. Okay,
• 2:31:08
  Speaker 1: just give me plenty of time because my schedules always
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 1: needs to be adjusted way in advance. Since I was
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 1: a kid, I've been interested in my family history, especially
• 2:31:17
  Speaker 1: the immigrants. I enjoy hearing their stories and achievements, even
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 1: though I never met them. Can you relate, I mean
• 2:31:24
  Speaker 1: a little bit. I have to say. I don't really
• 2:31:27
  Speaker 1: care about my family history. I mean yeah, I mean,
• 2:31:31
  Speaker 1: my father and mother wrote a biography just kind of
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 1: for the family. They wrote this book, and it was
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 1: kind of cool because they were father and mother and
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 1: you know, knowing their life story, which I didn't know
• 2:31:44
  Speaker 1: a lot of was kind of cool reading that book,
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 1: and I learned a little bit about my grandparents, and
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 1: somebody once did a kind of a family tree through
• 2:31:52
  Speaker 1: my grandmother's side and discovered some stuff which was kind of,
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 1: you know, funny, because I come from a very long
• 2:32:01
  Speaker 1: It turns out I come from a very very long
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 1: line of rabbis, including the founder I think of the
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 1: Hasidic movement. But it's like I find it amusing and
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 1: kind of oh okay, he'd be embarrassed by me. But
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 1: I don't find it super interesting. But that's that's fine.
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 1: I don't want even any problem people finding stories interesting,
• 2:32:24
  Speaker 1: finding that as long as you're not getting a sense
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 1: of self, a pseudo self esteem or suit of pride
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 1: from it. And I don't think you are, Richard. It
• 2:32:31
  Speaker 1: sounds like you're just the fascinating stories, the interesting stories
• 2:32:34
  Speaker 1: about interesting people and interesting times. Wes, thank you. Wes
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 1: really appreciate it. We've blown through the third hour goal. Now.
• 2:32:44
  Speaker 1: Oh I haven't blown through it, but we're getting very
• 2:32:46
  Speaker 1: close to the third hour goal because of Richard and
• 2:32:49
  Speaker 1: Wes and a few others. Thank you. Oh, this is
• 2:32:54
  Speaker 1: doing a long show, Today's Surprise is still going. Yep,
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 1: it's uh, we'll go well into our third hour. I
• 2:33:00
  Speaker 1: thank you. I was really appreciate it. All right, we
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 1: got a few more questions. Let's get through these and
• 2:33:05
  Speaker 1: try to make sure we don't go into the fourth hour, John,
• 2:33:12
  Speaker 1: who do you think the average Republican voter is with
• 2:33:15
  Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro at Tucker Calson? I don't think that was
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 1: either one of them. I think the average Republican I
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 1: think that with Ben on Israel generally. But I think
• 2:33:29
  Speaker 1: they like Tucker, so they kind of and maybe they
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 1: like the old Tucker. Maybe they're not quite aware of
• 2:33:35
  Speaker 1: the new Tucker. I think they're more with Ben, but
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I hope they're more with Ben. But
• 2:33:43
  Speaker 1: they're trying to be with both of them in some sense,
• 2:33:47
  Speaker 1: they won't they cake and eat it too, Andrew? Why
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 1: is there an anti Israel bias among certain libertarians for
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 1: the same reason there's an anti American bias? Same libertarians
• 2:33:59
  Speaker 1: they hate America. They hate Israel because these are two
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 1: successful company countries. They hate successful countries they lack authoritarian
• 2:34:06
  Speaker 1: countries because it's even easy for them to then say, see,
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 1: we need anarchy. These countries are awful, They're hobable. They
• 2:34:14
  Speaker 1: don't like successful companies countries because in a sense that
• 2:34:18
  Speaker 1: you know says that you can be successful and you
• 2:34:21
  Speaker 1: can live a pretty good life even without anarchy. They
• 2:34:25
  Speaker 1: hate civilization. Anarchism. Anarchism so called an alco capitalism is
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 1: anti civilizational, and they hate Israel because it's civilized. Mike,
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 1: does Trump really want to rename the San Andreas fault
• 2:34:40
  Speaker 1: to Joe Biden's fault? Just asking questions? I hadn't heard that.
• 2:34:46
  Speaker 1: That's pretty funny, Stephen. Did Jean Valjean do the right
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 1: thing stepping forward when another man, though a criminal, was
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 1: mistaken for him? Reading Lemaslemus, what an experience? I think, Yes,
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 1: I mean it's integrity. You don't want somebody else suffering
• 2:35:11
  Speaker 1: because of what you did. So yes, I think I
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 1: think that you know integrity demands demands that that you
• 2:35:26
  Speaker 1: identify yourself. But more importantly, what a great book, What
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 1: an amazing experience to live in that universe? If you,
• 2:35:36
  Speaker 1: if you guys, if any of you out there have
• 2:35:38
  Speaker 1: not read Lemis, robblers, pick it up, don't. I mean?
• 2:35:43
  Speaker 1: You can watch the music. All the music is very good.
• 2:35:46
  Speaker 1: But there's nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing like reading that novel
• 2:35:51
  Speaker 1: and just being in that universe, being in that universe. Michael,
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 1: is your Marazzoni afraid to engage with you again? Is
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 1: he ashamed and embarrassed of what he helped create? I'm
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 1: not sure he recognizes that he helped create it. I'm
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 1: not sure he takes that kind of responsibility. He seems
• 2:36:17
  Speaker 1: to think it's not compatible with his form of nationalism.
• 2:36:23
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if he wants to engage with me.
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 1: I haven't tried. I don't know anybody who wants to
• 2:36:29
  Speaker 1: sponsor debate between us. If they did, we could see
• 2:36:32
  Speaker 1: if YE would engage. So I wouldn't say that he
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 1: is afraid because I don't know. And you know, we'll
• 2:36:45
  Speaker 1: see if there's an opportunity to debate again, if he's
• 2:36:49
  Speaker 1: willing to do it. All right, Robert, Merry Christmas. Everyone,
• 2:36:54
  Speaker 1: make the most of the holidays for your own, fine
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 1: self and for everyone you love. Thank you, Robert, great message.
• 2:37:01
  Speaker 1: We'll be talking about Christmas and on Wednesday showing Wednesday Andrew.
• 2:37:07
  Speaker 1: The way I viewed Rock's reaction towards attitude towards Keating
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 1: was one of friendship, not a friendship, but of curiosity
• 2:37:16
  Speaker 1: for the principle motivating Keating and the love of architecture,
• 2:37:20
  Speaker 1: which drove into perfect Keating's work. Yeah, I mean there's
• 2:37:23
  Speaker 1: something to that, but there's a little bit more of that,
• 2:37:26
  Speaker 1: and more than that, there's a certain it tolerates Keating
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  Speaker 1: in a way that I wouldn't and I don't you know,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean it serves the purpose of the plot.
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  Speaker 1: Put it that way, Loan the center. Interviewing someone is
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  Speaker 1: a trade. Why isn't interviewing a villain with a huge
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  Speaker 1: audience a winning trade? You refute them, dislodge their fringe followers,
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  Speaker 1: and raise your profile at they've expense. Well, but it
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  Speaker 1: depends who the villain is. If the villain is really evil,
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  Speaker 1: then you have just given credit established that it's worthy
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  Speaker 1: to debate a villain a really evil character. Some evil
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  Speaker 1: characters won't actually let you engage at debate. They behave
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  Speaker 1: horribly and you know whatever, you know, if they're real villains,
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  Speaker 1: If they're real villains, the people in their fringe should
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  Speaker 1: easily reject them. Anyway, What am I going to do
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  Speaker 1: to change any fuentass Anybody who listens to Foyness, who
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  Speaker 1: agrees with Funis's mind. What I'm going to show he's wrong.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that he's wrong is accessible to every single
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  Speaker 1: one of them directly, easily. I've got nothing to gain
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  Speaker 1: other than making it, you know, other than giving credibility
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  Speaker 1: to Frantis. His ideas are not credible. If you agree
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  Speaker 1: with Frantis, you're already a monster. I have no business
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  Speaker 1: talking to you. If you can't see through how his stupidity,
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  Speaker 1: then you're too dumb for me to talk to you.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: In the same by the way, right now, Tucker and Candas,
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  Speaker 1: But would I debate? Would I abate your HARAZONI yes,
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  Speaker 1: I have, even though I think he's wrong and bad
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  Speaker 1: and bad in a sense of the ideas are antagonistic
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  Speaker 1: to mine. Would I debate? I don't know, somebody like
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  Speaker 1: GP Vans or Vivic or you know, or I don't
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  Speaker 1: know come up with a character. But there's certain level
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  Speaker 1: of evil and dumbness stupidity that there's nothing for me
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  Speaker 1: to be gained other than to sanction their existence. And
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  Speaker 1: sanctioning I mean, to Charlie Cook's credit, Charlie Cooked really
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  Speaker 1: was upset with oh what's his name? God? The Christian
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  Speaker 1: Indian Republican. I forget the guy's name. Anyway, he went
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  Speaker 1: and debated Fantas, and Charlie was really upset at him
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  Speaker 1: because he said it legitimizes Frentis. Pies. Ideas are not
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  Speaker 1: worthy of debate, they're worthy of ridicule, and I can
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  Speaker 1: do just as well to ridicule them by by by
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  Speaker 1: ridicule him on my platform. So no, it's a guy
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  Speaker 1: who debated for Intus and I can't remember his name.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I can see his face. His name is
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  Speaker 1: on the tip of my tongue, but it won't come
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  Speaker 1: to me because my mind is you know, on names. Names,
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  Speaker 1: names just don't come. Everything else is better than ever.
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  Speaker 1: Danish de Susa, thank you, thank you, guys. I appreciate
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  Speaker 1: that Danish the Susan. This is a few years ago
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  Speaker 1: when when Coke was alive and Danish Susa debated for
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  Speaker 1: Indus and Charlie coch was upset anhim and he was sorry.
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  Speaker 1: It was one more step in elevating Fuentas to credible. Okay, Andrew,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, we're only forty eight dollars short of
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  Speaker 1: out third hour goal. An objectivism view of the stature
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  Speaker 1: of man Rand said believe in God implies an inferiority
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  Speaker 1: complex for man, who's lower than this ineffable superior being,
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  Speaker 1: when in fact, man is nature's highest being. Yeah. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, and of course God is the creation
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  Speaker 1: of man. So it's even more ridiculous given that. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: and this is what my my opposition to cathedrals. Cathedrals
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  Speaker 1: want you to look up worship see your own smallness.
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  Speaker 1: And I resent that, reject that I like numbers. Is
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  Speaker 1: it wrong to wonder? Watch Kanazi Jews had so much
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  Speaker 1: success per capita versus other groups once they integrated into
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  Speaker 1: US and European culture. Yeah, it's it is. It is
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  Speaker 1: not wrong to wonder. Uh, it's interesting, it's an interesting
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  Speaker 1: phenomenon and and uh, but to attribute that to two genes,
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  Speaker 1: it is ridiculous. It's got to do with culture. It's
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  Speaker 1: got to do with multi dimensions of culture. And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe there's some respect in which you know,
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  Speaker 1: they have, you know, slightly higher power on average, but
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  Speaker 1: the fact is it's only on average and again at
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  Speaker 1: the at the extreme. But but it's just wondering. It
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't change if you're an individualist, it wouldn't change your
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  Speaker 1: perception of any particular Askhanazi jew Uh. But by the
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  Speaker 1: way it Kanasaws did not do well in anything much
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  Speaker 1: other than money lending a small number of them before
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  Speaker 1: they could integrate into Western society. They were pretty good
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  Speaker 1: poor that Ascanizi Jews it came to America were poor
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  Speaker 1: and came here with nothing and had nothing, and and
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  Speaker 1: and you know, it's only once they integrated and combined
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  Speaker 1: the culture that emphasizes learning and emphasises hard work and
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  Speaker 1: emphasizes individual achievement. It's only when they when they did
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  Speaker 1: that and within a Western civilization or an American civilization
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  Speaker 1: that rewarded all that, did they think right? Loan dissenter.
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  Speaker 1: Last question, Dagny admired Nate Taggart because he was a hero.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe there's a little extra oomph because she's descended from him,
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  Speaker 1: but the fundamental is that admiration and inspiration from her
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  Speaker 1: own worthiness, not descind Yes, because she she wanted to
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  Speaker 1: live up to him, because he was a hero, and
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  Speaker 1: she of course inhabited his railroad, so it wasn't just
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  Speaker 1: that he was an ancestor. She was doing the same
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  Speaker 1: job he was doing on the same rails that he
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  Speaker 1: had built, and there was that personal relationship she had
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  Speaker 1: with him because they were both doing the same thing,
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  Speaker 1: and she was working on his stuff, on his rail,
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  Speaker 1: on his vision. So it's not some distant hero. It's
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  Speaker 1: a hero right now that I am supporting. But it's
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  Speaker 1: not being about being her grandfather. It's about being right
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  Speaker 1: here in the rails innocence right it's his, his, his
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  Speaker 1: mind that may Taggart Transcontinental, may Taggart exist, made it possible,
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  Speaker 1: made it thrive. All right, guys, thank you really appreciate
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  Speaker 1: the support, and thank you all the super chatters, the stickers.
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  Speaker 1: Don't forget to do Patreon, and don't forget December thirty
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  Speaker 1: first to join me. That'll be even a longer show.
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  Speaker 1: I'll see you all there by everybody,